Exact dude
#esports-discussion
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cobalt spoke
How are you going to play behind literally the best overall main tank in the league?
cobalt spoke
Yes
Smurf is a very good ball
The only hero that he actuallybisnt that good on is rein
gilded dagger
cobalt spoke
Becuase super plays rein
The only other real candidate for best main tank is fearless
And he's not as good of a ball or orisa as smurf
And there pretty much on par with winston gameplay
sullen berry
Oh my god, they're going to announce one player on Christmas day
Flora was announced 24 hours before the official post iirc
cedar oasis
Mano and sado are comparable to smurf
cobalt spoke
No they arent
cedar oasis
Mano is
cobalt spoke
They are inferior winstons and orisa players
cedar oasis
Rien and ball
cobalt spoke
Smurf is a better ball player than sado atleast
Mano was the second best ball player
next mesa
Smurf ball is why he's better than fearless
Fearless rein better smurf orisa better
But fearless ball is like hmmm
cobalt spoke
Kindof ugly
cedar oasis
Mano one of the best mt when he has a b tier support line
All the others have great ones
cobalt spoke
Mano one of the best mt when he has a b tier support line
So???
Mano has gotten to play all 4 main tanks this season and we know what he is capable of
And its not smurf
cedar oasis
Cant wait for mano to tear with one of the best support lines
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Facts
vagrant jacinth
Mano is gonna be stomping
cedar oasis
The only problem I could see is poko
vagrant jacinth
Yeah, they'll be in my top 5
cobalt spoke
vagrant jacinth
Merry Christmas benbest you chad
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third place
cedar oasis
If there was no covid there might have been more teams joining owl
And all the old players could still play
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fuck covid
cedar oasis
Nyxl looking like a high mid tier team
sullen berry
mid is where some put spitfire last year because of JMac and Glister
I don't see the potential, because I don't know how strong Flora Friday or Gwangboong are
cedar oasis
Thier dps could be very good
tropic herald
Flora is kinda meh imo
cedar oasis
Or they could be complete trash
tropic herald
Gwangboong is cracked out just not consistent
sullen berry
Feath5r and Ivy I have no doubts he will make or break the team's dps synergy
cedar oasis
Friday is the real problem I could see
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I feel like Ivy Gwangboong is gonna be the standard
sullen berry
But I guess it's main support
NYXL has only had good experiences with Anamo
But not when IMT signed Mandu
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better hope he can recreate the scrim results
sullen berry
What I mean is mandu did not look confident on NYXL, he was benched most of the year
cedar oasis
That's nyxl coaching for you
sullen berry
I find scrims far more valuable now after folks suddenly decided to leak that Valiant were doing really well and surprised most with their debut
Their weight is still pretty low
But we have zero information on the sum of these teams this year
Barring the shanghai masters teams, ofc
balmy wolf
Which team has the best twitter manager and/or discord community?
sullen berry
Mine
balmy wolf
YES
cedar oasis
I'm going of their results on the teams they were on
Like fridays team didnt really win anything
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3 of their players
cedar oasis
But then again you could be good in contenders and flop in owl
cedar oasis
Cries in nene
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nenne washed
sullen berry
I'd have to put a lot of consideration for their poor performance to the fact they lost Fr3e due to sexual harassment of a minor
cloud latch
I wonder why 3 players from that team got signed
sullen berry
Even before that they were bad
But if you're improving, you don't let go of your undead unless it's a really bad set of circumstances and PR around you
cedar oasis
Nene is
Not
Completely washed
Ok maybe
If your improving and your team still sucks
Cries in boston
And London
sullen berry
Houston
cedar oasis
And Atlanta
Actualy Atlanta where the most disappointing this season
People thought they could compete with the best teams
sullen berry
To be fair, on paper houston looks good until you compare it with Dallas at the next Texas rivalry
sullen berry
Dps will be able to do work with enough synergy together
cedar oasis
Danteh hydration sounds good
sullen berry
And when it really matters Happy KSF are promising imo
Idk how much of his time in Asia is going to look like up against xzi
But I know if it was a happy vs decay or Linkzr, he might have a bit of trouble
cedar oasis
Happy would crush linkzr
Linkzr is 80 percent trash 20 percent good
Decay Is just built different
digital cloud
linkzr on a good day would contest happy pretty well
but we all know how often linkzr has a good day
silk frost
oh you mean that one time in 2017
cedar oasis
In a game that didnt matter
vagrant jacinth
I think xl will end up somewhere in the lower third
I just rate their chances that high
silk frost
significantly yeah
I think with how much firepower has been brought into the league they're only above Vancouver, Paris, Houston, Florida, London, and Valiant
and the top 4 of those are losable
Karra retired btw
sadge
vagrant jacinth
Agreed
sullen berry
Karra?
silk frost
Ex o
vagrant jacinth
There's just too much great talent being brought in by other teams, I don't think they can break through into mid table
silk frost
especially when looking at how good Chengdu's acquisitions are
vagrant jacinth
Still can't believe they got an 11 man roster lmao
sullen berry
I'm still on the fence of how much they will improve overall
Spark is a full roster
Hope architect and seominsoo has their best years on Spark
sullen berry
Well if you're against a beefed up Seoul Dynasty and the biggest pimp hand team in Shanghai Dragons next year
sullen berry
I'm on the over and under respectively
Spark needs that winning combo which they will find during the regular season
It will be a case of the s1 spitfire where they just lock it in or s2 shock where the losses are minimal if they go fluid roster
next mesa
they need to play coldest or mcd
stick with one
wait
how many fs do they have
just 2
sullen berry
Well best in CN didn't hold much value back in 2018
This is 2020 though, and we live in that timeline where diya is playing for the best contenders team in the world
Also American Tornado exists
next mesa
they are gonna get shit on by team cc
sullen berry
Hurricane's success being their downfall seems to line up in time with Spitfire's big announcement in 8 days
next mesa
imagine not picking up innovation, diya, and superich
what a buncha fuckin clowns
I bet like
if you pull a runaway
and some team signs the whole team cc roster
sullen berry
Innovation still in contenders is agony
sullen berry
To be fair, MyKaylee has been a solid pickup bruh
next mesa
argh
sullen berry
If you want to go for untapped talent, never saw it in Bilibili until very late this year
Ultra Prime please don't go back to ultra succ
They need to flip their roster and figure out what to do after Jimmy was picked up
cedar oasis
Owl needs good coaches
karmic grotto
xD
owl season 4 will be better since those assistent coaches under crusty are trained
we gonna see high level ow
And some ex-Shock coaches may even win against Shock
imagine
the students become the masters
vagrant jacinth
Speaking of spark, I really like their roster. If they click, they'll probs be hard to beat
cedar oasis
They could have too many players
vagrant jacinth
Yeah that's the thing
If they find out how to balance it and which players to play when, they'll do good
But it'll be tricky
Guxue bernar tankline sounds so pog
vagrant jacinth
Damn bro, dissing my boy
digital cloud
well, no big loss
cedar oasis
Who?
sullen berry
He was another Finnish gift to esports
To become a retired main support is very sad time for EU
cedar oasis
Did he play for any owl teams
slow kraken
Ripa to the spitfire?
plush light
Who did jofi play for?
vagrant jacinth
Hurricane
raw ermine
he was the first MS for BH when they went on there undefeated streak
before kellex took over
was there for like 2 years
sullen berry
Can't hate on the OG
silk frost
JOFI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
feral zodiac
EU overwatch lmao
sullen berry
Yveltal 🥺
vagrant jacinth
Superstar
raw ermine
thats yveltal?
ready for the holidays
Twitter
Season one MVP running, 2018, colourized
solar bison
Pretty much
tawdry hamlet
I have high hopes for gaga
He is like better ameng
Well a more well rounded ameng I mean
hot heart
His ball is comparable to amengs
And his hero pool is actually wide unlike his counterpart
I expect Chengdu to honestly be a much much better team than last year
Also they're all Chinese players so them and HZ basically represent Contenders China
Im most excited for their dps rotation and support line
I mean
1987 and nisha
Very promising duo
And yveltal to back them up
tawdry hamlet
I hope leave gets it together now that he has talent around him
hot heart
I hope leave gets it together now that he has talent around him <a:catpog:786802...
He looked very good on the ashe towards the end of s3
Kinda surprised me honestly
Also kaneki
Dude could be a beast
tawdry hamlet
Kaneki was somewhat matching architect so I see promise there and leave looked far better than baconjack on his own so I have high hopes
Although upsetting they dropped molly
hot heart
Yeah
1987 is good but isnt as good as molly
Well
In terms of their ceiling i mean
Also
feral zodiac
I'm honestly very surprised at the lack of chinese players outside of Chengdu considering how big overwatch is in china
There's eileen and that's all I can think of
tawdry hamlet
Hmm, Heesu Logix and naist vs Kaneki Leave jimmy and Jinmu vs feather ivy gwangboong flora
I think tbh, nyxl wins in terms of talent but toronto in experience and Chengdu in potential
Man if they just dropped logix toronto could literally be a top 5 team lmaoo
Like imagine they picked up ivy instead of resigning logix
Boom ez top team
vagrant jacinth
Yeah, I like logix but he might hold them back a bit
tawdry hamlet
I haven't seen much about naist but if he's like cracked I have hopes but isn't he projectile I assume?
Wish innovation was picked up 
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if only the whole team cc was signed
cobalt spoke
If only shock disbanded, then the other teams might win
raw ermine
I never thought Na1st was flex dps
silk frost
Na1st replaced Whoru
tawdry hamlet
well I assumed he had to be something since Logix and Heesu are hitscan
wishing logix had a wider pool than ashe 
but with the way s3 went who knows maybe ashe will be meta for another 2 years
omegalul
I know logix plays cree and widow alright but I think his star character is ashe
he actually looked decent on her in summer showdown
tbh summer showdown even without agilities carry toronto actually looked good lmao
it was one comp they could genuinely execute and I think mechanical skill diff is the only reason they lost more so than execution
oh Naist was on the og fusion university team?
I have high hopes for him then that teams slapped
raw ermine
not really OG
tawdry hamlet
yeah he joined late but the team still won shit at that point iirc
I just know the whoru alarm days of that team slapped some ass
bostons nobody ex main support is on a university team now
that is poggers
tbh idk how this dude got into owl
https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Halo
Boston must have been mad desperate
like how you going to sign a beast talent like myunbong and then put him with this dude
hot heart
Fr
tawdry hamlet
Really hope Lori cleans up the dogshit the old staff left behind
literally all the old staff have to show for s3 is bracket busting by beating an unprepared houston
and a sexual misconduct allegation lmao
good staff
hot heart
All of boston was a mess
Very likely still could be
But
Their chances at a redemption is better than ever
tawdry hamlet
I hope the new additions make them look less like a contenders team
since at many points last season even titans looked better
I mean Titans got it together and beat atlanta at one point lmao
albeit during a sombra meta but stilll
feral zodiac
Contenders looked way better than boston
tawdry hamlet
yeah true, well apac contenders, I would to think in NA contenders they could at least beat like one team in the top 3 lmaoo
but they looked so damn bad
they made some decent upgrades though
tawdry hamlet
Stand1 and So0n are pretty big upgrades over Jerry and Fusions
yeah
So0n has a solid tracer and can hold his own on ashe widow at the mid tier pretty well
feral zodiac
Nico might end up joining as well
tawdry hamlet
he is all around a nice presence even if he isn't super insane
tawdry hamlet
Chex is good with good coaching and a nice team around him but they forced him on mei most season, like watching him play ladder against a lot of other pros in ladder on stream and dude is pretty cracked
but that is ladder so doesn't really say much
feral zodiac
Fucking muma does well in ladder
tawdry hamlet
I think if they let chex hitscan and had a better flex in place of jerry they could have done a lot better
feral zodiac
Jerry had some flashes of potential
tawdry hamlet
since hitscan is definitely the strong suit of chex imo
Punk isn't actually that bad with a good team either so I hope the upgrades are helpful
idk how good stand1 actually is since I didn't even know he existed until the finals when they randomly played him over fearless because of meta but if he was on shanghai he has to be kind of good
finals annoys me in general because philly and shanghai had to play lineups totally different from what they dominated with all season 😦
feral zodiac
Eh
tawdry hamlet
which I understand being well rounded is part of the game and shock obviously deserved the win being able to adapt to any comp
feral zodiac
Players did well
tawdry hamlet
but depressing we didn't get to see the big matchups we wanted
tawdry hamlet
yeah that meta was not it philly lmao
and philly got carried by the non main tank meta
since they literally didn't have one
I meant seoul
my bad
feral zodiac
Any other meta I guarantee spark or nyxl would've been there
tawdry hamlet
I mean profit did play insane tbf, his pharah ult he got in like 20 seconds on oasis was pog af
and his genji was 
feral zodiac
Profit is always nut in playoffs
tawdry hamlet
Gesture hog was nuts too
One can only think how well they could have done if they played a real main tank like sado
feral zodiac
Fits seriously showed up for playoffs
tawdry hamlet
That too
tawdry hamlet
I barely remember fits all season then he contested ans and diem like they were nothing lmao
feral zodiac
Ye
cobalt spoke
ANS was rhe most consistent widow player by far
He literally didnt have low points
Fits is just built fairly well
While ans is simply built different
feral zodiac
but he lost the 1vs1 against diem lol
tawdry hamlet
tbf the apac widow 1v1 was just standing behind a pole for 5 minutes back and forth waiting for one to peek the other
the NA widow 1v1 I felt was far more accurate but the brackets left something to be desired
also not having xzi in apac widow was sadge
and putting carpe in a bracket against diem first round was kind of sad too because it totally obliterated carpes chances unless he played out of his mind
but 1v1 really only gauges jumpshot consistency and shit since Linkzr and So0n are clearly not a better widow than ksp
but they still were the final
So0n played insane in the widow 1v1s to be fair
true hound
ye cause like
widow 1v1s arent really a proof of aiming skill
just a lot of small movements
tawdry hamlet
more just reaction and positioning more than anything
true hound
ye
tawdry hamlet
like it is about guessing where they are from not flicking to hit the shot on them because they are usually standing still
more just like the reaction of hitting them first
regardless though So0n really surprised me
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scaring me like that bro
silk frost
I'm upset with how little Tobi was involved with that
cobalt spoke
~~but he lost the 1vs1 against diem lol~~
In the 1v1 battle yeah, but that doesnt show everything about the hero
Diem literally didnt play for most of the season
ANS played almost every map of every game and was the best over all of them
He also plays much better with his team than diem does
feral zodiac
Did you miss the line through the middle of the message
true hound
🤣
hot heart
Lmao
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fits always contested well
diem happy glister lip
he was the most consistent player in seoul
throughout the season
except like maybe marve1
earnest leaf
During grand finals ans usually was matched or outmatched the enemy sniper, when he was getting outmatched his whole team already was
silk frost
Yeah pretty much
earnest leaf
Fits and diem are still nasty
true hound
if Fits plays to that level the whole season hes def up there
but seoul was just inconsistent in general
karmic grotto
the duality of man
tidal ridge
one man
tight hill
Merry Christmas
raw ermine
All I want for christmas is t2 support
plush grail
all i want for christmas is for that 140 EU player ping thing to be proven false
please tell me paris and london will either go to na or play on decent ping
raw ermine
they'll be fckd if they have to
vagrant jacinth
All I want for Christmas is London signings smh
plush grail
dont tell jeff, im leaking the london spitfire roster 👀
vagrant jacinth
London will probs stay in apac
plush grail
tbh I hope they do some more cross regional tournaments
we only got to see na vs apac for a little bit on a VERY scuffed patch
vagrant jacinth
dont tell jeff, im leaking the london spitfire roster 👀
I mean yeah tbh lol
raw ermine
vagrant jacinth
100%, more tourneys between regions would be sick
slow kraken
Hey I already leaked ripa
plush grail
imo if they don't do cross region NA is gonna get boring really quick
they had like 3 good teams in paris, shock and fusion before
fusion left and paris went budget
only shock is gonna be good
and maybe glads
apac is gonna be amazing tho
the new nyxl, the new spark, seoul who's becoming good again and the fusion
plush grail
im really expecting a major upset in NA
im legit expecting titans to beat shock at some point
tidal ridge
im expecting boston to win against shock at the beginning then go 1-30 or something
slow kraken
NA region won’t get boring
earnest leaf
London would get tossed around in apac
silk frost
Halo is getting brownie points for these or somethin
vagrant jacinth
I don't have faith in the titans roster..
earnest leaf
Titans snagging a win from shock would pretty much require shock hard trolling
vagrant jacinth
It really would
cobalt spoke
im legit expecting titans to beat shock at some point
🤨
You had the idea
But you dont actually expect that
next mesa
bruh
okay look
if crusty was like
hey lets give food poisoning to the whole team
there's like a 5% chance that titans upset shock
otherwise
NO LMAO
worn falcon
Titans snagging a win from shock would pretty much require shock hard trolling
Put viol2t on tank, super on support
next mesa
they would still win
did you forget super's cracked zen?
second only to viol2t
and viol2t is a god gamer
wait
outlaws prob above uprising
anyway
clown take roast me boys
balmy wolf
atl too low honestly
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shut
cedar oasis
Washington too low
Seoul will suck for 80 percent of the season
Then be good at the end
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I think spark reaching their full potential will be better
cedar oasis
Toronto too low
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bro in any competitive game/sports only playoffs matter
cedar oasis
Dallas below philly
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ok maybe
cedar oasis
I can only see Dallas beating philly in genji meta
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idk arguably they have a better tankline
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Mano is not better than fearless LOL
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not rein
cedar oasis
Wow
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haven't seen fearless ball
cedar oasis
Have they played against eachover
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no
next mesa
they did get sweep almost everytime
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yes
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Their whole team got outplayed buddy
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its just true
cedar oasis
And flops
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no one in their right mind would say mano was better than fearless last season
ok like even with orisa
fearless orisa is still solid
cedar oasis
The problem is nyxl sucked and dragons were good
Like if you put the best mt on Vancouver they wont win
cedar oasis
Didnt stand1 play rien
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no
cedar oasis
Did dragons just not play rien
next mesa
yes
cedar oasis
Ok
cedar oasis
Beginning of the season
Was rien
Like if it's only mano vs fearless I would say mano is overall better
next mesa
im going based on the fact that bh is better than obey
I dont think adding onigod is gonna change
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so is paris
onigod played like
half a season maybe
on 200 ping
ellivote didnt play anything
they just have neptuno
cedar oasis
They have some veterans for guidance
Onigod wasent bad also
It's just that he had to rapace decay
And decay is built different
next mesa
he isnt bad
im just willing to bet that sparkr is also on that level
and they also have synergy
cedar oasis
Any team not in eu contendies
cedar oasis
EU contendies sucks tho
feral zodiac
I have no idea about ball for either of them
cedar oasis
Mano was the 2nd best ball last season
feral zodiac
How many people played ball
cedar oasis
Idk
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smurf stand1 mano ameng
cedar oasis
It is
feral zodiac
Is erster still on the reign?
balmy wolf
no
cedar oasis
Dragons
balmy wolf
on shanghai
cedar oasis
I think
next mesa
not necessarily
I think its a mistake that they played stand1
just me doe
also
fucking pog
cedar oasis
Jk lmao
next mesa
raw ermine
Yikes I saw diya and retire in the same sentence
tawdry hamlet
Oh yeah baby
next mesa
Leave
balmy wolf
what?
next mesa
he was bad
next mesa
sparkle lived up to his hype not leave tho
balmy wolf
mechanically one of the best
his team was shit
of course he is not the best player from the start
but way above average
balmy wolf
did you only watch end of season>
watched almost every game
wanton birch
Has gamsu had any success getting on a lol team ?
raw ermine
gamsu i don't think has got onto a LOL team
silk frost
sadge
next mesa
yes
feral zodiac
I think gamsu got really unlucky with overwatch
Would've shined on a team that wasn't Dallas
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Crusty
trail perch
shanghai???
wheat wasp
wek
vagrant jacinth
Glorious Ameng
vagrant jacinth
Oh yeah baby
BIGGER
tawdry hamlet
I don't want to use the jjonak mouse because the oils from my skin will easily rub off the autograph
but I also don't want a mouse as a showpiece
hmm
tawdry hamlet
I might just put tape over it or something idk yet
balmy wolf
you can get some grip tape online
solar bison
I don't want to use the jjonak mouse because the oils from my skin will easily r...
Wear gloves? Or cover the mouse? Or just the signature
tawdry hamlet
Probably just going to get a piece of something to cover the signature
untold wraith
wait is it signed by jjonak
tawdry hamlet
Yee
It's like 150 from the owl site but I found one online for 55 or so hence why I even bothered with it
tawdry hamlet
it was a 2019 jersey on fnatic so it was only like 13 or so I think
was great deal
considering the retail from owl of jerseys is like 100
might be a replica but I don't think it is
either way it is nice
tawdry hamlet
hmm it seems the christmas sale ended but some stuff is still kind of cheap
idk if it ships international
I believe it does
vagrant jacinth
Ty, gonna browse
vagrant jacinth
Ok, it does ship international. I think my total came to about £60. Good chunk was shipping
Might fuck around and order some stuff
plush grail
poggy legit giving fanatic tons of business lmao
feral zodiac
Blasé to spitfire huh
vagrant jacinth
I preferred the old ones tbh
I'll probably pick up one of the new ones later on in the season
plush grail
oh but the shipping is like 30 euros for me again oof
imagine having to pay 30 euros in shipping for a paris shirt
while i live like 5 hours from paris
plush grail
how the fuck do you 3d print a shirt
hollow gazelle
cedar oasis
Blase is meh
plush grail
fun
tidal ridge
he got 2nd in a tournament in 2017, seems qualified enough
tidal ridge
no, rank's too low, owl only accepts silver
plush light
I'm bronze, should I talk to huk about getting signed to the uprising?
tidal ridge
in this universe huk actually manages san francisco shock sorry
plush light
Blase is meh
Blase has never gotten an opportunity to play what he is good at without his team collapsing around him.
plush grail
yeah tbh outlaws was shit because of the weird situation
the main tank just left, support line was meh
tawdry hamlet
lmao I have actually caused like 3 different people to actually place orders at this rate fanatics should be paying me man
karmic grotto
And a better support line
plush grail
according to halo he had good trials
plush grail
lmao I have actually caused like 3 different people to actually place orders at ...
mr business
owl should hire you
plush grail
poggy joins boston uprising
as a head of number
i saw that on the nyxl thing, what the fuck even is head of data
plush grail
yeah but owl has a super detailed stats lab
does he just keep track of how many times players blink
tawdry hamlet
loll
tawdry hamlet
has to keep track of how many times people say a bad word so they can be fined for basically nothing 
Linkzr shelling out 2000 dollars to say fuck twice
plush grail
reminder: blase got picked up but meko is still in limbo
tawdry hamlet
blase is the doomfist one trick that is kind of like shit right?
plush grail
yeah i dont even know what he plays
tawdry hamlet
depressing
plush grail
projectile i think
tawdry hamlet
not really a big pickup at all considering all the talent still out there 😦
plush grail
tawdry hamlet
oof
I mean lowkey think paris will be better than london now
since bh got beat by obey and paris has members of obey plus some better players like onigod
and blase is shit
tawdry hamlet
new heroes hopefully shake things up so teams like titans can still be fun to watch
tawdry hamlet
true
tawdry hamlet
yeah that is true, but naga onigod on the same team 👀
tawdry hamlet
then again in gauntlet Danned matched naga really well
so I still am not sure
but naga has a great echo
plush grail
can't wait for paris to announce they signed rascal and libero
raw ermine
They needed a hitscan not a projectile. Why did they sign blase?we know what happens when he goes on dps
Hitscan dps*
karmic grotto
cheap owl player
vagrant jacinth
London throwing off my rankings smh. Might wait a bit see if they announce anything else
vagrant jacinth
lmao I have actually caused like 3 different people to actually place orders at ...
We already know they're paying you
worn falcon
Blasé what in the fuck
digital cloud
He had decent doom, genji, and hanzo from what I remember
They just had him on Cree for no reason
He was actually a pretty pog doom
worn falcon
And yeah, Cree jail was ???
worn falcon
Wonder if he gonna improve with having a not feeding main tank
digital cloud
I genuinely think he might have good potential
It is mostly the Houston staff that is the problem I would say
Or the org maybe
And also Muma
He could prove to not be that great, but I think he was good enough when he was playing his real role
tawdry hamlet
Idk, houston was bad because of coaching but a lot of their players just were inconsistent or made dumb mistakes, like danteh blinking off the map, hydration killing himself on pharah, muma feeding constantly because he's just not that good
Coaching was really dog last year tho
I hope this year it's better
Houston had arguably one of the worst coaching staff aside from like boston
raw ermine
yeah they had dream
tawdry hamlet
Practicing only a hydration pharah comp going into playoffs lmao, still can't even with that
Absolutely mad
I almost feel like they threw just to break brackets for lols
raw ermine
its sad to think half the people in the justice's final run in the playoff are retired/prolly gonna retire
plush light
Was aimgod ever any good or was he just like a filler player who was meh
He was like jjonak, but on worse teams
plush light
I mean, linkzr isn’t a great Cree but
Linkzr had the flu. Danteh should have been playing mccree through. Danteh is like the western version of architect.
raw ermine
they had hydration, danteh, linkzr, and blase
was hydration that bad at mei that they had to run danteh?
plush light
Danteh is gm level at all heros.
He is at least ok at any hero in the game, even for owl standards.
lunar wind
How do I propose a tournament?
My friend and I want to host a tournament with a buy in and payouts
tropic herald
Well you’d have to DM ModMail if you want it advertised here and despite this being esports it’s not really for community stuff
plush grail
if there's a 1-3000 sr cap you could ask boston to participate
hot heart
Blase could turn out to be a b tier player
His doom is mechanically very impressive
His genji could use some work but not too bad
plush grail
yeah thats also what i knew blase for, his doom
idk why they picked him up tho
veteran maybe?
makes me doubt british hurricane is getting promoted fully
cedar oasis
Have we seen a bad doomfist player in owl
plush grail
sparkle
cedar oasis
Defanitly
plush grail
wdym, do you not remember when sparkle refused to switch off doom and hard threw against new york
plush grail
we just never see bad doom play because only good dooms get to play lmao
cedar oasis
Or doom is easy to play
plush grail
imagine spending 50k on a contract for a doom one trick and he only plays 1 game against the worst team in league history
next mesa
Doom isn't easy he really requires sum teamwork
plush grail
with so many teams going budget that's just such a chad move lmao
cloud latch
signing chipsa was a 5head move
silk frost
WHAT THE FUCK DID LONDON DO?!
cedar oasis
If they get rascal top 4
silk frost
Philly is the dark horse of APAC
cloud latch
philly has a really good coach
silk frost
A fantastic one yeah
silk frost
I agree
cloud latch
agreed
next mesa
If charge and spark really clicks doe
I can see them passing philly
I think they have a higher ceiling
cloud latch
I can see charge being 2nd
plush grail
spark can for sure clap a team like fusion, they just have to
they can play around with player so much and find a optimal comp against them
and fusion cant do much about it
worn falcon
Always forgot philly id APAC now
Wonder which other teams are going APAC
Imagine Shock in APAC games
next mesa
shock going to apac just comes down to crusty vs moon
plush grail
shock washed
silk frost
THEY HAVE G L I S T E R
tropic herald
Everyone is a NY doubter
But watch out when Gwangboong and Yakpung boom your favorite APAC team
hot heart
I believe in NYXL
Genuinely very very promising team
Especially the dps line
The tank line will be solid
The support line might be a bit on the bottom side tbh
But who knows
cedar oasis
Friday has them scrim bucks
vagrant jacinth
Ivy will be great and I think feather will be too. I just don't see the rest performing
silk frost
Gwangboong is mechanically good
cloud latch
who did he play for?
cedar oasis
They must have done good in trails
raw ermine
DPS is gonna be boom or bust for NYXL
cedar oasis
Maybe they r planning for 2022
silk frost
they have to be
hot heart
Yeah
wanton birch
Surprised no one has signed (announced) GaeBullSsi or Valentine yet
sullen berry
You realise if they have signed val already, they have a date specifically for them
next mesa
I guess gaebullsi not going to nyxl
earnest leaf
So blase to london huh
Also imo kinda makes it look like they won't force eu teams to stay and play on high ping
karmic grotto
I'm not sure what even is going to happen. But I'm positive we will get out of this mess
Overwatch will starts in April and we will have homestands
earnest leaf
Doubtful for homestands
But
Vaccines are rolling out so it will slowly start to calm things down, and possibly before owl starts, travel is a bit easier
vagrant jacinth
Especially now that uk got rona 2
plush grail
anyone here in europe who might go to any EU homestands?
raw ermine
as opposed to going to a london game?
tropic herald
I think Homestands are do able but they have to be limited capacity until the vaccine
plush grail
limited amount of people will be allowed to watch london get swept by every other team at their own homestand
a truly amazing experience
trail perch
as opposed to going to a london game?
I dont really like bh
vagrant jacinth
anyone here in europe who might go to any EU homestands?
I'd probs go to a London one if it happens
Was planning to go last season before it all went tits up
scarlet tangle
I wanna be on a team lol
feral zodiac
Homesteads were gonna be such a success
raw ermine
#lf-players-na to put info about yourself and join other teams. If you wanna join an actually path 2 pro team, climb to around 4600 on one roll, then try and look out for teams in contenders and contender trials and open division. Then you can follow p2p
feral zodiac
Or go to au contenders lmao
plush grail
Or climb to 2000 and join Boston
raw ermine
Sephy said owl orgs weren't making profits even if they sold all the tickets to a homestand
feral zodiac
Remember when a diamond team qualified in open division au
raw ermine
So it didn't seem like they would be
feral zodiac
Sephy said owl orgs weren't making profits even if they sold all the tickets to ...
Huh
plush grail
Isn't all of Australia just silver/plat
feral zodiac
How'd they find out?
raw ermine
Look up a reddit post on comp ow made by sephy
plush grail
Isn't one of the main reasons why paris is going budget is because they needed the profits from the home stands??
raw ermine
Something along the lines of
feral zodiac
I should've asked who is sephy first
raw ermine
Not a good coach but seems like he could be a good member of the people at Blizzard behind owl
I forgot
Look it up it should be on reddit
mortal abyss
Sephy said owl orgs weren't making profits even if they sold all the tickets to ...
Sorry I’m late but that stuff is mainly the orgs fault for not properly using homestands to make a profit
raw ermine
I can't believe blase has been on 3 owl teams
hot heart
Even sparkr?
next mesa
Will he even match like Linkzr and onigod
balmy wolf
not that hard to outshine linkzr
silk frost
it'll be a bottom 3 line for sure
silk frost
Onigod/Naga and Linkzr/Dalton are probably worse
feral zodiac
Depends what version of linkzr you get on the day
silk frost
I don't think it matters tbh
feral zodiac
He has his moments of glory
silk frost
idk, I don't think he'll have enough moments to make him better than bottom 3
balmy wolf
dababy
plush grail
For some reason I feel like we're getting all of the owl grey and white skins again
They've been using them quite a bit
raw ermine
lets stick to projectile-hitscan so its nice and round
Fleta lip
rascal ANS
Carpe Ivy
feral zodiac
Levy man
Ur sleeping on striker ans
Striker = best dps in the league
I will not change my mind
silk frost
there's a reason he was in the running for BEST ESPORTS PLAYER
raw ermine
Fleta Lip
Rascal ANS
Carpe Ivy
Profit fits
bqb yaki
decay doha
No particular order, but they can't all be top 5
balmy wolf
gotta put more chinese teams in
decay doha isnt a duo anymore
bqb yaki is strong but their A+
actually i would just go by their season rankings tbh
so paris would be fourth then
plush light
Where would soon Nicogdh be (at their peaks)
digital cloud
pretty low
balmy wolf
i would say nico is middle to low tier
soon is pretty high by himself
with the other 2 dps in paris s3 it was a good lineup
with little to no gaps in hero pools
plush light
What about sbb libero
plush light
I mean in s1
digital cloud
how the mighty have fallen
balmy wolf
expect in the season playoffs but that has been memed to death already
cobalt spoke
1. Profit Fits
2. Fleta Lip
3. Ans Striker
Lets talk about best tank duos
Ohh wait
We cant
Smurf choi 🌶️
true hound
1. Profit Fits
2. Fleta Lip
3. Ans Striker
this is correct
true hound
Striker = best dps in the league
no