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tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
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@tawdry hamlet we get happy vs ans next year tho

tawdry hamlet
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true

next mesa
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Statistically apparently happy has the best widow

tropic herald
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Also Corey straight up carried maps for USA

next mesa
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If u go on r/overwatch league i think

balmy wolf
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corey the actual reaper god

earnest leaf
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then sinatraa got mvp anyways lol

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and said corey deserved it

tawdry hamlet
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lot of people rating houston below valiant next season and I kind of don't get it

tropic herald
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Sinatraa only got mvp Bc he played the flashy hero in that meta

tawdry hamlet
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valiant look like shitt atm

balmy wolf
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i think valiant is in the same spot as last year

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houston is a wildcard

earnest leaf
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Houston either does better than valiant or is somehow shit tier again

balmy wolf
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since they actually revamp the roster this time

tawdry hamlet
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hoping the happy diff can save them HYPE

earnest leaf
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But with their DPS they should be able to carry to mid tier

tropic herald
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Houston does not look good

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They have good dps

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And everything else is uninspiring

earnest leaf
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the issue is their tanks are unproven in owl and the supports are questionable

tropic herald
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Crimzo Joobi doesn’t strike confidence in me

next mesa
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It's gonna be way better than hydration on mt doe that's for surr

tawdry hamlet
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no muma HYPE

tropic herald
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Meanwhile in Dallas Fielder Jecse Rapel makes me feel something

tawdry hamlet
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we got rid of the aging media piece that sucked les go

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bye muma

next mesa
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Makes u wanna cum a little bit

cloud latch
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isnt junkbuck good tho

tropic herald
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Battle of Texas this year is gonna be a let down

tawdry hamlet
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well yeah lmao

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there is very clearly a winner in that

tropic herald
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Normally it’s a fair fight

earnest leaf
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unless it's a double hitscan meta

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Then houston would have a much better chance

tropic herald
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It goes from Houston 5% to Houston 15%

tawdry hamlet
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tbf it was hardly a fair fight last year even

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decay went brr

balmy wolf
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ok houston made it close and then threw it away each time

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thats what happened

tropic herald
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Here’s my season prediction

cloud latch
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decay on rialto

tropic herald
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Glads win it all

tawdry hamlet
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I think the best play of Houston so far is only practicing a hydration pharah comp for playoffs lmaoo

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like what tf was the thought process

cloud latch
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you think glads beat shock?

earnest leaf
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I think glads are gonna be like philly was this year

next mesa
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Here's my prediction

earnest leaf
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Look great all season long, be considered better than shock at times

next mesa
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Seoul wins

earnest leaf
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but in the end crusty's crackpipe strikes again

tropic herald
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Glads are far more explosive than Philly imo

tawdry hamlet
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unless there some changes in metas and shit I expect shock to repeat but the lower bracket games of glads and dallas will be fun to watch at least

earnest leaf
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Profit will lead seoul to a win

tropic herald
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So they should peak high enough to beta shock

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Just not consistently

tawdry hamlet
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philly look really mid now 😦

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sadge

earnest leaf
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I do expect glads to be top2, top 3 at worst

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in NA

true hound
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kevster birdring too good

tropic herald
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I do have my power rankings rn

tawdry hamlet
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birdring washed angerybongo

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hehe

tropic herald
next mesa
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Seoul will go 12-12

mental coral
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hunters last kinda harsh

next mesa
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And then suddenly yo hold on it's playoffs oh ok

mental coral
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dont do my boy ameng like that

tawdry hamlet
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that looks about right to me except for reign above justice and mayhem above toronto and boston

balmy wolf
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put titans 20th lmao

tropic herald
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Ameng boutta hit his third year of owl and I just don’t feel inspired anymore

earnest leaf
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poor titans

balmy wolf
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ameng aint even the starter i bet

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its gaga

tawdry hamlet
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if the winter ball performance is taken into account, I think florida look kind of dog shittt

earnest leaf
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Had one of the best rosters of all time

tawdry hamlet
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well yeah gaga is way better

earnest leaf
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to rando t2 talent and old pros

cloud latch
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its weird seeing dallas so high up

tropic herald
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Titans org WEIRD

earnest leaf
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I still think dallas is gonna manage to fuck this year up

tawdry hamlet
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gaga has an almost equal ball and can actually flex, why wouldn't you play him over ameng

earnest leaf
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and my guess is shit metas for them

balmy wolf
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OT on hunters still looks meh for me

tropic herald
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I wonder if Dallas moves to APAC

balmy wolf
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unlikely

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they have a base in texas with a new building and all

tropic herald
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Do any of the na teams have korean orgs

tawdry hamlet
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I think I would put toronto and then boston and then mayhem and then valiant tbh

tropic herald
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Or infrastructure in Korea like Philly?

tawdry hamlet
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also surprised atlanta are projected so high when all they did was pickup one player and drop their deadweight

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seems to have worked alright for them

tropic herald
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Whatever happened in Atalanta

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They just look

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Better

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Looks like they actually do team play

tawdry hamlet
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pelican is like the only main change besides dropping their shit players

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and erster

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😦

tropic herald
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I would be willing to move Paris

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I feel like this is an amazing EU team

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Just need another dps to round it out

tawdry hamlet
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hmm, ellivote kind of weaksauce tho

tropic herald
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What EU OT over him?

tawdry hamlet
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that is fair lmao

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other than ksaa I have no idea

tropic herald
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Molf is London

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And KSAA maybe :/

tawdry hamlet
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forget about the fact that their roster is exclusively eu players

tropic herald
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GBS to Paris pog

tawdry hamlet
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and also forgot how lowkey dead eu is for players

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tbh I forgot how dead non korea is for players in general

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all these new talents and 90 percent of them are just considered mid in apac contenders

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but in eu or na contenders they would sweep

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SA contenders tho

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watching that is so strange

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not just because the spanish, but like, it looks like a whole different game kind of

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like the play is so different from other regions and it feels like watching a tiny isolated contenders region lmao

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when the top sa team has mikeyy on it lmao

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pog champ

tawdry hamlet
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man im just trying to look at contenders rosters and the frank noble drama got me down a twitter rabbit hole to reading redshell's manifesto about how he is innocent

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liquidpedia rabbit holes go brrrrr

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I get sucked into them so often

cloud latch
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what happened to redshell

next mesa
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Pedo

tawdry hamlet
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oh just the drama about him and pedophilia and threatening to sue frogger and eskay and shit

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man how come so many overwatch creators suckkk

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kephrii

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being an example

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classic moment

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omegalul

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wow contenders drama went so hard earlier in the year

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wish I hadn't missed it

sullen berry
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in gauntlet against the rest of the world, at least

tawdry hamlet
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true

sullen berry
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there's a deleted clip of jehong announcing on stream he'd retired

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I believe that was for the clipbait from a donation

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Translation of clip:
Jehong: Retirement is confirmed. It's almost for sure confirmed. I wouldn't retire if there was an opportunity to keep playing.

And yet an hour later during the stream:

Jehong: I rescind my earlier statement about retiring (lol). I would keep playing if there were teams still hiring.

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Fun times when you're jehong and people can't not take yourself too seriously

echo quest
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Iirc he was drunk and joking

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But people took it seriously

plush grail
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decay libero kinda stacked

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but idk if justice will be any good comparing them with the other teams

slow kraken
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Washington feels like a meta dependent team

limber pine
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I mean

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Most teams are meta dependent

raw ermine
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Double hitscan will be great for them

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Libero to WJ would have been gg

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Wait

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I just realised the guy said "not a maybe anymore "

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Not "maybe not anymore"

slow kraken
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That can either mean he has been signed or he hasn’t

inland flare
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Nah, I think we'll be mostly meta dependent.

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Proof*

next mesa
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Not with libero

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Libero got no weaknesses bitch

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Libero mag decay fury

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And you telling me that's not a pog team

raw ermine
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Imagine getting dove by their genji tracer monkey Dva while you are discorded

next mesa
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And u know what I'm counting on bebe and closer

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I hope they do well

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If they turn out to be garb I'll shit on them but until then I say no doubt trust the coach

hot heart
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Damn

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Mag Fury Decay Libero BeBe Closer

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First 3 are top tier with libero having the potential to be top tier

next mesa
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Lowkey like

hot heart
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See

next mesa
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I put that on the same tier as glads

hot heart
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Now i think top 2 and 3 NA could be A toss up between dallas WJ and LAG

next mesa
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They have a slightly stronger tank line, more consistent dps but weaker support line

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Dude it's gonna be pog season

hot heart
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Man

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Philly dodged a bullet

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Hmm

next mesa
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Honestly I think philly is still gonna be good

hot heart
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Does Justice have the overall better tank line compared to Glads

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I'd say so

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MuZe has been excellent

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Space too

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But mag and fury

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Idk man

next mesa
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Okay

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So my reasoning is

hot heart
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Not as dominant as last year though

next mesa
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Fury is like a bit better than space

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And mag and fury are pretty equal

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Oh fuck

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Mag and muze

hot heart
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Ye

next mesa
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Wasn't mag more hyped up like #1

hot heart
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I think fury is better than space

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Def

next mesa
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It's whatever though both unproven for now

hot heart
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But mag has the potential to be incredible

next mesa
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Muze did look good tho

hot heart
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Like

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He could be a top 4 MT

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Of course that depends on how the team plays around him and the coaching

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But i still expect him to perform very well

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At least to MuZe's level

hot heart
next mesa
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Ok like if u think about it

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Philly might have suffered net lost

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Okay they lose fury sado

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But get mano and still have poko

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Honestly not bad replacement

hot heart
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I mean

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Ig

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But def not on the same level

next mesa
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They still have carpe

hot heart
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Though if the rascal rumours are true

next mesa
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They lose ivy heesu

hot heart
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They definitely have a better dps line than last year

next mesa
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But gets shockwave

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Resign iqo

hot heart
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At least at the Flex dps position

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Yeah

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So

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I think the dps line

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Incredibly good with rascal

next mesa
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Their support line is still pog

hot heart
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I think the tank line wont be better

next mesa
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As long as you have alarm

hot heart
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But will still be good

next mesa
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Yes

hot heart
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Solid A tier

next mesa
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But honestly if their play style is

hot heart
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But not S tier tankline anymore

next mesa
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Massive tank line

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Put all the resources in carpe and shockwave

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Might work

hot heart
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Which is fine if you're dps and supports are still god tier players

next mesa
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Honestly shockwave will be so good

hot heart
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Which seems to be the case

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I think carpe probably takes the sideline

next mesa
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Like he was popping in literally shit tier team imagine what he can do on fricking Philly

hot heart
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And shockwave is the starter

next mesa
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Really

hot heart
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Yeah

next mesa
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I doubt he plays widow ashe cree tracer over carpe

hot heart
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Eh

next mesa
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Honestly shockwave would be pretty good for the new heroes

hot heart
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I see him playing widow over carpe

next mesa
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Huh

hot heart
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But not tracee

next mesa
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Mayb

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For sure not tracer

hot heart
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Yes

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Give us the juice bröther

limber pine
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in double sniper he may play widow

hot heart
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Ye

limber pine
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depending on who they want to play ashe

hot heart
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He probably does

next mesa
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Hanzo?

hot heart
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Hmm

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Carpe hanzo

next mesa
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Well they have iqo

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I honestly think carpe is wasted on tracer he should be more like ans

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But

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I just think he'll have a bigger impact

limber pine
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eqo is a great tracer

next mesa
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Really

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Wtf

limber pine
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pretty sure that's what he was playing before season 1

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on zengaming

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and world cup 2017

hot heart
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Eh

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He didnt look that good playing tracer in 2020

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It wasnt bad though

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Just not great

next mesa
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Off season grind

hot heart
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BRO LMAO

next mesa
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Honestly think shockwave will pick up the new hero

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Yeah i got that too

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I just ignored it lmao

hot heart
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The juice

hot heart
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Shockwave and rascal

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If they do finalise the signing

next mesa
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Rascal

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Honestly rascal would be upgrade but

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Oh yeahhhhh they don't really have a mei player

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Okay true

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Shockwave and rascal echo both cracked

hot heart
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Echo Mei meta

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Dear lord

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If philly pick up Jjanu or something

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I feel much more confident about them

next mesa
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Don't disrespect my man's man

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Just overshadowed by fury tbh

limber pine
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not the change the subject

next mesa
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Ye

limber pine
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but I was watching Kaan in gauntlet the other day

next mesa
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Ye

limber pine
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and man his bap is cracked

next mesa
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I tried to watch

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But the quality went brrrrr

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Ok how cracked

hot heart
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His mechanics

next mesa
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Is it like

hot heart
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Are fucking

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Insane

next mesa
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70% of viol2t

hot heart
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Like

next mesa
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Oh dang

hot heart
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Holy fuck

next mesa
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Okay okay

hot heart
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I'd say

limber pine
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I was lapping enemy baptiste ultimates

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*he

hot heart
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He could be top mid tier next year

next mesa
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The way you describing him

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Oh

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Bruh lmao

limber pine
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I didn't realize he used to go by the name IBTB

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illbethebest on team Germany last year

inland flare
inland flare
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Any thoughts

trail perch
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On the list or the leaks?

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GBS not going glabs

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glads

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They have space

inland flare
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As a whole yes

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For now, Space is better than GBS

trail perch
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GBS prob going to boston bc they are becoming mini wgs

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If they sign faith and valentine

inland flare
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Glads look good even if they have space

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Yeah, but wonder if punk is going to get decent amount of play time

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If he's there

hot heart
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They probably share playtime

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But it'll probably be like

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70% GBS

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He has more potential

primal minnow
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toyou hasn't been announced for seoul yet has he?

next mesa
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nop

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for smoe reason I thouthgt faith was also a dps

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since valentine is a flex

cedar oasis
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He thinks poko and punk are on the same level

next mesa
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chex im37 soon valentine sounds good

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yeah idk about his opinion

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Michelle above hawk

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and toyou below

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like

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doubt

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and how is marve1 c+ just on his sig alone is like b tier

cedar oasis
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Was bernar good

tidal ridge
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because he can only play sig

next mesa
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nah they played him for dva too over michelle? it was so weird

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anyway

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spark should bench bernar let lige paly

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and also coldest

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pls

tidal ridge
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someone on hangzhou this year should be nominated for ROTY

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unless theyre the same and it didnt work out

inland flare
earnest leaf
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I'd trust him more than the avg owl viewer

inland flare
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Yeah, I don't think Punk is bad at all

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Tbh

cedar oasis
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Punk was not bad but I would not put him with poko

mortal abyss
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Poko's prolly the 2nd best western OT after Space

next mesa
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fax

trail perch
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I think mcgravy knows more than yall

plush grail
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imagine not having a team mcgravy smh

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#punkgang

tidal ridge
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spacegang

silk frost
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I agree with how high Punk is

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I think he's very good

inland flare
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True

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Us casual viewers argue with the guy who is a professional for about 3 years is like arguing to a dog, at this point

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Either way, Punk mechanical skill is pretty good

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Punk's*

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Fun fact: He's been grinding with colourhex this off season

keen aurora
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yooooooo

raw ermine
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the only supports?

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ok

cedar oasis
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Oh

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Friday

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Yikes

cloud latch
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is friday good?

raw ermine
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seems to be another diamond in the rough

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oz gaming has 3 players in OWL now

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skewed checkmate and friday

plush grail
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he any good tho?

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or budget

raw ermine
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budget prolly

cedar oasis
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No

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He is not that good

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Nyxl picked him up so he must have done something right

raw ermine
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friday looks liked what you'd get if you combined anamo and ark into one person

next mesa
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didnt they re-sign jjonak like a long time ago

solar bison
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I think so

chrome cosmos
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They announced friday

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On thursday

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Yo im funny af

raw ermine
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yeah

solar bison
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Wonder why they announced Jjonak twice

raw ermine
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they cloned him

formal crystal
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because it's part of their stunning graphic shorts like this

wanton birch
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It’s odd that oz gaming players are getting picked up

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Seeing how bad they’re where

raw ermine
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yeah

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must have been coaching

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a bunch of "good" players

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not being able to synergize

wanton birch
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I mean skewed looked pretty decent on glads

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Man leak mafia has like 100 % accuracy

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Looks like GaeBullSsi to glads is gonna be reality

mortal abyss
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I wouldn't be suprised if he went to Boston tbh

plush light
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Explain why boston didn't sign the entire oz gaming roster? Its perfect for them.

vagrant jacinth
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Who's friday?

plush grail
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the day before saturday

next mesa
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fax

plush grail
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jjonak commits tax fraud???

raw ermine
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he says his meditation mats are business expenses

vagrant jacinth
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Lmao

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I can already see the Friday jokes

raw ermine
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"friday, friday, OH LETS BREAK IT DOWN, on friday"

vagrant jacinth
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Just read through the announcement thread

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Oh dear

plush grail
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according to some people he hasn't won a game since 2019????

raw ermine
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not true it seems

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granted

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OZ gaming lost a lot

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but their last win

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seems to have been this year

tidal ridge
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tomorrow is friday's day

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trust me

cedar oasis
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Funny

vagrant jacinth
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Apprently on the worst korean contenders team and the support line was the weakest part of that team

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Not a good look

tidal ridge
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was it the players or the coaching tho

shy sun
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I think it was the coaching

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I could be wrong though.

silk frost
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why have so many OZ gaming players been signed

raw ermine
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that's what were all wondering

shy sun
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OZ gaming?

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Isn't that dead.

plush light
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They are so perfect for boston lmao

shy sun
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Friday was a good pickup for NY

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Cheap pay-out and likely benched I can guess.

raw ermine
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they lost a bunch of players to OWL

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they have 3 dps left

shy sun
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Zest one?

raw ermine
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zest remained on OZ

shy sun
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Ouch. He's got flashes of talent.

tidal ridge
shy sun
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Hmm, let me guess, was a nonce?

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I place all chips on that guess.

tidal ridge
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sir you are now a millionare

raw ermine
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he pulled a mouffin

tidal ridge
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what other reason would an overwatch player go to jail for

raw ermine
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/dreamkap

tidal ridge
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lmfao

shy sun
tidal ridge
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my man will never be able to play esports ever again

shy sun
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Should've signed to Boston

tidal ridge
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damn hes only 20

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what a weirdo

shy sun
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Games like OW and Smash attract very young people.

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Sadly there's not much that can be done about it.

tidal ridge
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smash blew up recently with a bunch of sexual assault allegations

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some against minors

inland flare
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Everyday I want you to ping, so I can be reminded not to be a peedo once I make to OWL.

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ping me*

tidal ridge
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or.. you could just not be a pedo

shy sun
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If you were a paedophile you'd know at this point in life.

inland flare
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Yeah, but I'm thinking about going to Boston because we all know how it's like with muffin and dream

tidal ridge
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what

inland flare
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Basically I don't want to be a fucking peedo

tidal ridge
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anyways

inland flare
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Wait

shy sun
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Have you been snorting coke haha.

inland flare
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you heard about mcgravy tier list?? hes getting some hate at reddit

inland flare
karmic grotto
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Of course

inland flare
tawdry hamlet
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I mean tbf putting punk above a second place finals off tank lineup kind of wack

plush grail
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that tier list is the reason mcgravy isn't getting picked up

karmic grotto
plush light
inland flare
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Players

raw ermine
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lul free accused geguri?

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lmaooo

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hey, are you a fan of the gladiators and the reign?

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can't decide which one is better?

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well, allow me to introduce to you

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ignore that thing about hockey

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probably unimportant

worn falcon
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Choi and Void are deffo S tier

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forgot that mcgravy list and isnt bad at all

digital cloud
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I have some issues with it, but the list is pretty good

raw ermine
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Void is first IMO, and I feel Hanbin could be S+ tier

digital cloud
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I would argue that Void and Choi are on another level than hanbin

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top of s tier seems about right

earnest leaf
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I think his placing of S+ was for a top tier sig and dva

worn falcon
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also some rando is posting his takes

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Libero to wash

digital cloud
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about libero?

worn falcon
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yeh

digital cloud
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would be a good pickup

worn falcon
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and Wizardhyeong back to NYXL

digital cloud
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washington easy top if they get some better supports and libero

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probably still close to t5 without better supports

worn falcon
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their lineup is mag, fury, ria, ttuba, decay, jerry, bebe and closer

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as for now

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adding libero could be a sidegrade to ttuba

digital cloud
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yeah, definitely have some top tier tanks and dps

worn falcon
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i think

digital cloud
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minus jerry

worn falcon
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I dunno who can they hire for support tho

next mesa
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Did you just say

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Libero is a sidegrade to ttuba

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Bro libero is a sidegrade to rascal

raw ermine
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rascal is better

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but libero is better than ttuba

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no sidegrades anywhere

tawdry hamlet
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they should obviously cop hooreg out of retirement ez

silk frost
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Libero

tidal ridge
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libero > ttuba < rascal

trail perch
#

Ngl Libero fucked over by shock

#

NYXL*

#

He might be better than rascal

silk frost
next mesa
#

seoul cycle was like

#

stacked roster

#

pretty good starter

#

gets swept by chengdu

#

something something

#

puts jehong on main tank

#

somehow squeeze in top 8

raw ermine
#

who tf said "ah man we signed zacharee for flex dps, a dps for flex tank in rck, and a benched ms in closer, dallas is gonna be great!"

silk frost
#

moreso was Oge and Aero

#

what a time to be alive huh

true hound
#

oh man

#

this is a fuckin good match

#

if anyones been watching

#

map 5, round 3

#

both 99-99 for rounds 1 & 2

earnest leaf
#

So nico is leaving SMC

#

and benbest said nico was talking to a team

#

My guess is nico goes to either justice/boston/titans

#

More likely boston or titans though

tawdry hamlet
#

ah if they got soon they probably got nico since same team

#

man that is not necessarily that good of anything for them

#

I mean it upgrades chex but like eh

sullen berry
#

I can't wait to rewatch the VOD of Muma vs Yeatle

#

I couldn't stop laughing at how wack Nepal went

digital cloud
#

wait, yeatle vs muma?

#

wtf

#

a battle for worst tank

#

must have been epic

sullen berry
#

It fucking is

#

The title NA contendenders story of 2020

sullen berry
#

the boys are back in town

#

asia gauntlet is here

#

Element Mystic vs Runaway

sullen berry
#

MAP FIVE TIME

#

WHOSE GETTING THE BOOT

karmic grotto
#

I think dream haven is flop

sullen berry
#

WGS or CC for the bag

#

I missed the first match

#

and the second half where EM ||almost got the reverse sweep before being fucked over by off/on meta plays||

#

good match

tidal ridge
#

houston cycle
use main tank player -> they suck -> play flex dps player on main tank -> it works?

mortal abyss
#

They were literally just founded

hot heart
#

Ye lmao

balmy wolf
#

OWL starts in february right?

noble nexus
#

yeah as far as we know

#

but they might delay for ow2's release

tropic herald
#

Revenge is pounding

raw ermine
#

woohyal rein

next mesa
#

Revenge honestly looks cracked

#

It's too bad he won't get signed, because fs is stacked

plush light
#

Muma is the most washed player

limber pine
#

There are many players more washed up than Muma

plush grail
#

idk muma is kinda uberwashed

#

his flex dps had to take his main tank role halfway during the season

raw ermine
#

we've seen AKM play over rascal on genji. Doubt its a team culture thing on houston but people can be saved

#

(if the play for crusty)

plush grail
#

yeah but akm is a dps player

raw ermine
#

who was more depressing?

#

akm blade or hydration winston

plush grail
#

muma winston

#

remember when he absolutely threw against dallas

#

he had primal

#

and just didn't use it lmao

plush light
#

Roar in general

plush grail
#

man bumper is never gonna return to owl when we have a chad like roar still around

raw ermine
#

r0ar is bumper-ameng

plush light
#

Roar doesn't play overwatch outside of scrims and owl games

plush grail
#

why do i always feel like roar and beast are the same person

plush light
#

Ameng vs hydration
The winston match up of the century

plush grail
plush light
#

Also beast is so much better than Roar because he plays overwatch

plush grail
#

lmaooo ameng didn't know how to play genji and lucio

#

2 pretty easy heroes

#

and now he's easily the best players on one of the most difficult heroes

feral zodiac
#

Wouldn't call being a pro genji 'pretty easy'

plush grail
#

if super can play genji, it's a easy hero

limber pine
#

Super is also well into his career

#

The tweet specifically said "his early OW career"

hot heart
#

Genji isn't an easy hero

#

Not by a mile

#

Lucio is extremely difficult at the top level

#

Not so much in ranked

plush grail
#

tbh if ameng wanted he could be the best genji and lucio in the league

#

moth should be thankfull that ameng isn't taking his job

tropic herald
#

I refuse to call ball a difficult hero

hot heart
#

He is the

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*tho

cedar oasis
#

Mano ball

hot heart
#

Goated

plush grail
#

how is ball not hard

chilly obsidian
cobalt spoke
#

Get it right

feral zodiac
#

U forgot the world cup champ, mvp runner up, all star, role star, 2x owl champ

next mesa
#

the back to back

#

the may melee champ countdown cup champ

noble nexus
#

the two time

#

back to back

#

not do it once and then do it again 7 years down the line, two time back to back

next mesa
#

honestly

#

do it once and then do it again 7 years down the line is more impressive to me but

noble nexus
#

that's because it probably is more impressive

#

but being the first back to back owl champions is still the biggest flex the league has

#

other than the sheer power of bumper hanzo

next mesa
#

so far

noble nexus
#

"the first"

#

we all know boston win the next 3

#

it's in the script

cedar oasis
#

Was decay leaving Dallas then stomping them a flex

next mesa
#

it was a chad move for sure

cedar oasis
#

Boston still bad

noble nexus
#

anyone who's ever been good on dallas and has left them has done that

#

dallas were a garbage org and team

cobalt spoke
#

Now dallas is a grabage org amd decent team

cedar oasis
#

Yes

#

But

#

They could be Boston

#

Or Vancouver

cobalt spoke
#

Just vancouver

#

Nobody wants to be a vancouver

#

Honestly just throe them out of the league

#

They dont want to win

#

Minnesota giants here we come

cedar oasis
#

Or

#

S1 Shanghai

noble nexus
#

when shanghai won against boston was actually the best day the world has ever seen

trail perch
#

Ok hear me out

plush grail
#

no

#

shut up

trail perch
#

Dallas org not as bad this year

#

Because the coaching staff isn’t ass

#

And Hastro knows how to run a real team

#

Eg. Dallas Cod league team

#

They are backed by envy

plush grail
#

dallas is gonna suck

#

sparrkle washed

trail perch
#

And have a star studded roster

#

Lol sparkle top flex dps

#

especially under rush

plush grail
#

sparkle sucks

trail perch
#

With all of his old teammates

earnest leaf
#

Dallas shall place 5th or 6th

trail perch
#

And this is how we know that you 1. didn’t watch contenders, 2. Didn’t watch owl last season, 3. Don’t watch his stream, and 4. Don’t know anything about ow

plush grail
#

15th or 16th

#

sparkle washed, colourhex gonna carry boston to #1 on mei

trail perch
#

Ok ur meming

#

I was deadass convinced that you genuinely thought that

plush grail
#

sparkle is good but idk if he's the best flex dps when people like libeo and rascal exist

#

rascal is a god

#

libero with good coaching could easily match rascal

trail perch
#

I think that he is very young

#

And last season didn’t have enough time for him to show his variety

#

His doom and genji where best in the league

plush grail
#

honestly sparkle is good but rascal and libero have been in the league since s1

#

they've got so much experience

#

sparkle got kinda lucky with the genji meta so he could show off his skill

trail perch
#

With more time in the league he could easily be a top dps

earnest leaf
#

Forgetting haksal smh

trail perch
#

Already a role star

earnest leaf
#

And whoru

plush grail
#

haksal is GONE

trail perch
#

Whoru not best

plush grail
#

whoru is a few tiers below rascal and libero

trail perch
#

Haksal retired

plush grail
#

whoru and sparkle might just be even rn

trail perch
#

Whoru worse than sparkle

earnest leaf
#

I mean their genjis

plush grail
#

whoru has experience but sparkle just has mechanics

#

with experience sparkle will become way better

trail perch
#

Sparkle mechanics are best

plush grail
#

bro imagine playing a fucking finals game with sparkle screaming

trail perch
#

I want that in my comms

true hound
#

AAAA SHIBAAAAL

earnest leaf
#

Imo haksal was the best genji, but he's ded now

plush grail
#

that play against charge was crazy by haksal

true hound
#

i think at like peak

#

sparkles genji was ridiculous

#

but like across 4 years haksal was consistently at the top

plush grail
#

I'm really hoping there's a team looking to sign some ex vancouver players

trail perch
#

I want a runaway run back

#

But minus the retired players

#

And all the runaways

#

I want stitch and assassin together

#

MAG and jjanu

#

Heesu

plush grail
#

what if OG envyus came back

#

how good would they be

trail perch
#

Not good

#

Like awful

#

Maybe Boston tier

#

They would have a bottom tier tank Lind

#

Dps would be average

#

Support bellow average

next mesa
#

they would be dogshit

#

bottom of the league

#

titans would sleep them

plush grail
#

man it's crazy how they went from spawncamping teams to fucking collapsing like shit

worn falcon
#

xQc back would be neat

raw ermine
#

OG envyus would be worse that vancouver

cedar oasis
#

I bet they could beat Boston

next mesa
#

no

cedar oasis
#

Yes

next mesa
#

vancouver cant even beat boston

#

lmao stop trippin

cedar oasis
#

Boston bottom 3

#

Vancouver then Boston

next mesa
#

yeah u trippin

cedar oasis
#

Every other team besides Vancouver is better than Boston

#

Actually

#

Maybey paris aswel

limber pine
#

will have to wait to see the schedule

#

Hard to imagine Vancouver doing well in the current setup

plush grail
#

paris could legit be pretty decent

noble nexus
#

^

#

if they click together well they'll be good

plush grail
#

they're mostly unproven owl rookies

noble nexus
#

I think vancouver are almost certain to be the worst considering every other team is looking to be atleast good

#

assuming london pickup bh anyways

cedar oasis
#

They will be the worst

#

Unless a team explodes like Vancouver did with runaway

#

And they all leave

noble nexus
#

wait who are you saying will be the worst

cedar oasis
#

Vancouver

noble nexus
#

oh ok

cedar oasis
#

Unless a team explodes

noble nexus
#

most teams are looking stronk for next season

limber pine
#

most teams will

plush grail
#

tbh im expecting florida to be top 5

#

they look good

cedar oasis
#

Everyone looks good

#

Except Vancouver

plush grail
#

they might get a few wins if linkzr pops off

next mesa
#

linkzr popping off wont be remotely enough for them to get a dub

plush grail
#

yeah

#

i legit dont know how titans are gonna do cause they have a solid widow in linkzr, half of the tankline is bad and the other half i forgot about

#

support has fire who was a decent brig if i remember and roolf who was meh

next mesa
#

roolf was the worst flex support in the league

cedar oasis
#

I would not call linkzr solid

#

He gets cold alot

limber pine
#

he's streaky

#

when he's on, he's top tier.

#

When he's not, I'm better than him.

plush grail
#

why the fuck did they drop ksaa tho he was decent

limber pine
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

maybe there wouldn't be a way to get him on good ping

cobalt spoke
#

We're going to have a tracer meta for grand finals of next year

#

And in that event dallas can not win

plush grail
#

pog seoul could do well with that

#

profit can focus on projectile now

#

and sbb can do tracer

cedar oasis
#

Doha is projectile isnt he

plush grail
#

he's both i think

#

hitscan and projectile

cedar oasis
#

Didnt he play sombra

plush grail
#

oh nah he's mostly projectile

#

but sometimes sombra

next mesa
#

Profit can play anything

#

profit is a top tier ashe

#

we dont talk about hsi echo

true hound
#

his Ashe and widow are 😫

next mesa
#

:moan:

#

argh

plush grail
#

:moan:

#

cringe

next mesa
#

buddy you say cringe that's kinda cringe

plush grail
#

bro you want washed jhong to return

#

thats cringe

tawdry hamlet
#

Vancouver will only get chance wins against london and paris

#

otherwise it just be L season

cobalt spoke
next mesa
#

what does that have to do with profit

cobalt spoke
#

Nothing

#

Replied to wring comment

#

But my point stands

#

Shock aint cock

cedar oasis
#

Shock is cock

cobalt spoke
#

Not drue

#

Literally best team

tawdry hamlet
cedar oasis
#

No

#

They dont have cockwave

#

So they lose

noble nexus
#

Shock is cock

cobalt spoke
#

They win 2 times

#

And not like once and then another time like 7 years later

#

Back 2 back

noble nexus
#

hey man

#

don't shoot the messenger

#

but the shock are cock

true hound
#

shock is cock

#

profit #1

cedar oasis
#

Shock is cock

cobalt spoke
#

Because shock =/= cock

cedar oasis
#

We got a cock fanboy here

noble nexus
#

any cock fans here?

next mesa
#

nah im good

cedar oasis
#

He is a washed fanboy

silk frost
#

Mmmm

#

Cock

cobalt spoke
#

Just wait forbthe 3 peat

#

Its imminant

#

Its only a matter of time

digital cloud
#

contendies is on

#

forgot

#

gonna watch a bit

#

that was a long first cap

#

geez

true hound
#

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this seems like its gonna be a good match

#

first round was hella close

digital cloud
#

kinda thought meta was gonna be ball sig

#

was that just a meme comp for the valiant tournament

next mesa
#

no

#

are they maybe playing in rein patch

cedar oasis
#

That was close

digital cloud
#

no, rein is 500 health

#

so they are on . . . last patch?

#

last last patch?

#

still think the ball sig comp would apply to the patch they are on

#

must be map dependent

#

backbone is the backbone of the team

true hound
#

i think rein is just map pick

digital cloud
#

they are doing orisa sig now though

true hound
#

from what ive seen watching past few days, ball sig is the way to go

#

ye

#

orisa sig is still quite good but it isnt dominant

#

you can run ball sig into it

#

theyre still on op bap patch after all

cedar oasis
#

Backbone needs to land a stick on the squishys

true hound
#

backbone is p damn good

tidal ridge
#

boston top 1 team

raw ermine
#

how tf are dallas this lazy?

#

like, ik their native language in korean

#

but man

#

take some time to translate what they wanna say

cedar oasis
#

Ok

#

Wizard hyoung

#

Is kinda trash

karmic grotto
#

no u

worn falcon
#

british hurricane rn

#

vs obey

raw ermine
#

whoops

#

so it has happened

solar bison
#

Nice art muma

tawdry hamlet
#

thank god, I thought that shitter main tank found his way back into league

#

I mean shitter by league standards of course lmaoo

#

aware he isn't a shitter by game standards

plush grail
#

expected tbh

true hound
#

man

#

paris really showin how much money they have

plush grail
#

im pretty sure they picked him up cause they need atleast 7 players

tawdry hamlet
#

true

plush grail
#

dps is kinda odd tho

tawdry hamlet
#

he isn't really exceptionally good even for budget players

#

considering they have onigod

plush grail
#

because naga and ellivote are the strongest players for sure on paris i think

tawdry hamlet
#

onigod is pretty solid as well

#

isn't ellivote off tank

worn falcon
#

eternal pain

tawdry hamlet
#

or am I misremembering

plush grail
#

every role except for support has a really solid player imo

worn falcon
#

trust Avalla guys

plush grail
#

i fully trust her

tawdry hamlet
#

I assume they needed the extra player because I can't fathom a reason to play Tsuna over Onigod

#

except for double sniper

#

and neptuno isn't bad

#

just unsure on kaan

#

but daan looked good in Gauntlet

#

that whole dubai team looked really good for what they were

#

them being a bunch of mids with a pharah one trick

plush grail
#

tsuna most have done incredible in trials

#

trust the process

karmic grotto
#

trust the plan

raw ermine
#

he's gonna be the 3rd dps for a second time lul

tawdry hamlet
#

yessssir

cedar oasis
#

YES

#

That means libero to justice

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean, was libero really going to go to paris?

#

lmao

#

he feels too good for that

plush grail
#

lmaooo

#

libero to paris

#

ofcourse

noble nexus
plush light
#

Why does it say main dps? Shouldn't that be onigod

worn falcon
#

send libero to Boston

raw ermine
#

soon chex im37 libero?

sullen berry
#

maybe just a main support/main dps slip

#

I'll forgive that

plush light
#

I just remembered thats what Koreans call it always, so maybe thats why

plush grail
#

libero to boston could happen tbh

#

also whoru is probably not finding a team

#

2 of the best flex dps aren't signed yet

raw ermine
#

imagine outta nowhere london sign libero and rascal

earnest leaf
#

they wouldn't

plush grail
#

ok so what if

#

the titans decided to just buy minimum salary players

#

so they could get libero and rascal lmao

#

would titans be kinda good if they got those 2 even

cloud latch
#

no

vagrant mason
#

Who do you think shouldve won the best dps player for this season

#

i honestly think Profit

raw ermine
#

fleta

#

cause he was MVP

tropic herald
#

Fleta

plush bridge
#

nah blase for his mccree

earnest leaf
#

I still don't know why he was played on cree over linkzr

cloud latch
#

didn't linkzr doubt himself and stuff

earnest leaf
#

would make sense

#

having a boomed mental won't be good to play with

true hound
#

in playoffs it was profit but overall season was def fleta

raw ermine
#

it was striker in playoffs

#

cause yknow he won finals MVP

#

profit 2nd

true hound
#

striker wasnt better though

#

only the winner can get MVP

raw ermine
#

and the winner won more and did better

true hound
#

profits pharah, genji, ashe, hanzo, and tracer were all quite amazing throughout the playoffs

#

i dont think striker is better than profit at all

#

on tracer yeah

#

anything else not really

earnest leaf
#

Striker is a large reason on why they went undefeated on koth maps

plush light
#

Imagine fl0w3r and decay as a dps line under crusty coaching

feral zodiac
#

There are a few that I can think of

#

Fleta, striker, eileen, ans, ksp, decay, profit, fits, lip, xzi

#

Can't forget carpe and heesu as well

#

Bqb

worn falcon
#

Striker is the reason why rascal was benched

next mesa
#

Tracer

limber pine
#

How long has Sugarfree been on AT?

vagrant mason
#

but profit was mvp profit did better then striker when it came to hitscan in my opinion

#

Cause If you said Ans i wouldve agreed but like striker

raw ermine
#

Sugarfree was on atl acad for like 2 years

limber pine
#

Yeah but he’s playing on American Tornado

#

Oh apparently he’s standing in for Wub

balmy wolf
#

yea hes retired but he'll play if hes asked too

raw ermine
#

he subs in a ton

tropic herald
#

Sugarfree cracked out

tawdry hamlet
#

I still find it kind of odd they named the london franchise after a plane from ww2, like I love history and war aviation and shit I have a glossary of ww2 planes by squadron and shit on my dresser lmao but like that was really the only mascot they could come up with?

#

I mean I guess tbf lots of things are taken

#

But then again you could use existing names like titans