it's a popularity thing, based on how active chatter are etc... i've seen it go as high at 40 million, which is definetly not how many people are watching OWL
#esports-discussion
mortal abyss
could've sworn it said 觀看人數
willow tartan
Definitely not forty million, but a million viewers is plausible.
willow tartan
I myself don't watch OWL on chinese platforms
next mesa
imagine thinking any korean would go to titans
mortal abyss
iirc the grand finals this year had a 1.500.000 AMA average
willow tartan
Sounds reasonable
Anyway, whatever it is it's much much larger than NA and EU combined
mortal abyss
yes, there's a reason why escharts doesn't use chinese numbers
next mesa
they do use chinese numbers though
willow tartan
The esports events that get the most viewers is League right?
mortal abyss
Blizzard does, because they have accsess to the official number
mortal abyss
The esports events that get the most viewers is League right?
yes
willow tartan
They get millions of viewers regularly or something
League, then CS:GO
then what would be after that?
mortal abyss
dota
willow tartan
yeah but dota and cs are like far behind from league right?
mortal abyss
maybe fortnitie is above csgo when they do host events
yeah
league is in a tier of its own
mortal abyss
hah
i just looked it up, not sure if its true but loads of sources are saying that the LoL worlds 2019 had " more than 100 million viewers this year, marking another impressive milestone for the popular computer game that cements its place as the envy of the esports industry. "
mortal abyss
unique viwers i think
willow tartan
100 million people and I'm willing to bet half of them are chinese
earnest leaf
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1338931649900392452 your right damn
worn falcon
does this means Benbest to Boston?
next mesa
guess they're not getting faith and valentine
worn falcon
hope he doesnt have a bad track too
raw ermine
whoa
cedar oasis
They have stand1
worn falcon
dreamkazper stuff
rare magnet
wait a minute
weak bolt
Soon to Boston? Guess they got sniped for those WGS dps
gilded dagger
SOON?
silk frost
2nd match
true hound
nvm
silk frost
Dubai got 3-0d sadge
plush grail
really hoping he's doing good tho
because from his past tweet and stuff he looked pretty boomed
true hound
owl broadcast using default crosshair causes me pain
weak bolt
Soon is a decent pickup for them honestly. It means they dont ever have to play Chex on tracer again
cedar oasis
Boston still bad
raw ermine
its pretty good
raw ermine
faith is up in the air
keen aurora
why
keen aurora
YOO ITS TRUE
silk frost
she wasn't on dorado or volk either
keen aurora
fringe laurel
Soon in Boston? They gotta put him in the worst team eh
earnest leaf
or rascal
storm cloak
will asking be in this overwatch season?
raw ermine
probably not
cedar oasis
Noo
raw ermine
he has been kicking around contenders trials
cedar oasis
Definitely not
raw ermine
hasn't been on a good contenders team in a bit
raw ermine
he is LFT trials/contenders
storm cloak
I want him in OWL
earnest leaf
He'll probably never get owl
No team is signing a player known for retiring every other month and being toxic
limber pine
it's happened before
raw ermine
to ball on consoles, and soldier cause of something to do with his skins
mortal abyss
Didnt asking have a contract with one of the LA teams but it never went through
cedar oasis
Ye
chilly obsidian
i play xbox, but idr ball removal. my ow did break for awhile so maybe that
tidal ridge
boston be signing vets
wanton birch
what website do people use to make tier lists ?
raw ermine
Didnt asking have a contract with one of the LA teams but it never went through
Their was gonna be a trade in s2 of OWL
LAV:
KSF and Fate
Boston
Asking(from academy team) and fusions
but it never went through cause LAV pulled out last minute
raw ermine
what website do people use to make tier lists ?
just look up tier list maker on google.
wanton birch
im tyring to find this type https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233904315247362048/787912398040072242/unknown.png
not my list btw
cloud latch
wanton birch
thank you
tawdry hamlet
No fucking way
Boston just jumped me from somewhat on the hype train
To all in
I love soon 
digital cloud
soon can't carry that trash fire
tawdry hamlet
They've got myun and stand1 and im37 I believes
And a coach who isn't brain dead
They just need one more solid player and they have a real shot at top 6 or so imo
tawdry hamlet
And who put valiant above toronto 
tawdry hamlet
Funny too because last season they were like 5th overall
Tbh I have more faith in houston than paris
plush grail
my favorite team > your favorite team
tawdry hamlet
plush grail
paris is gonna beat houston atleast a few times
digital cloud
even as a fan of houston, my faith in them is virtually none
tawdry hamlet
they dropped muma and picked up happy
I call that a pretty big w
and talon tanks are not awful
just missing jecse 😦
digital cloud
shoulda kept him
tawdry hamlet
probably wanted to play with em teammates right? wasn't he part of that?
tawdry hamlet
I mean dallas literally signed element mystic
loll
like 5 players that all used to play together 
as far as paris goes I like neptuno and onigod, but ellivote? really? he was the best they could get?
sadge
worn falcon
ellivote op
vagrant jacinth
Boston just jumped me from somewhat on the hype train
Let's fucking goooo
vagrant jacinth
SOOOOOOOON
tawdry hamlet
I mean he isn't by any means a carry or anything but way more flexible than chex
worn falcon
as far as paris goes I like neptuno and onigod, but ellivote? really? he was the...
also trust in Avalla
tawdry hamlet
he has a linkzr tier widow on top of his tracer and other heroes, so I am big excite
vagrant jacinth
I just love soon
digital cloud
linkzr tier lol
digital cloud
meanwhile other teams have ans, decay, happy, etc
digital cloud
no
plush grail
pog imagine going from this to bottom feeding
tawdry hamlet
imagine literally being known as the org that creates stars from a bunch of shitters and loses the best roster the league had seen up to that point
pog
before they lost everyone though, why did they sign fissure and ryujehong?
bumper seemed fine
plush grail
there was a fucking team that had bumper and fissure
at the same time
that's just unfair
if they just treated the players well
also how far along is esca in his military service
I could totally see esca and jhong coming back as a duo
earnest leaf
OT now is pretty much, "are you good at sig?"
tawdry hamlet
when has sig not been meta man
he was only kind of not meta when hog ball was around for a tiny bit
plush grail
OT is stacked rn tho
tawdry hamlet
but then he got right back in there
tawdry hamlet
tbh I think a lot of solid off tanks got cucked by having a weaker sigma than other heroes
like mcgravy dva is pogchamp, mcgravy sigma is midchamp
sullen berry
2020: "can you play trashe?" 
tawdry hamlet
true
ashe tracer has been meta for fucking ages
if not ashe tracer, then a variation of ashe or tracer and someone else
plush grail
sp9rkle tracer
earnest leaf
Bets on how dallas flops this season
my guess is the meta is perma double hitscan with it swapping around widow/cree/ashe mostly
Or the meta is just some hitscan/sombra/genji/doom with winston sig ana lucio
then they would pop off
tropic herald
Watching SK v US 2019, i really forgot how much hype crowds bring
sullen berry
It was so hype
earnest leaf
The best part is the crowd just chanting "USA" over and over when they were beating SK and China
Now 3/6 of the team USA players are retired
and 2 of them said they wouldn't compete in OWWC again
sullen berry
2018 really takes the cake when Team UK flipped almost everyone's expectations going into the GOATs meta
hidden vault
The best part is the crowd just chanting "USA" over and over when they were beat...
Who is the last one?
Super?
earnest leaf
Moth I have no idea what he said on doing OWWC in the future
I'm pretty sure super/space said they wouldn't
earnest leaf
I think because it eats up a lot of their off season time
So they would go from OWL--> OWWC practice and shenanigans---> small break---> starting back up for owl
mortal abyss
2018 really takes the cake when Team UK flipped almost everyone's expectations g...
UK vs SK was so good
balmy wolf
Does anyone actually know if u switch from xbox to pc u can use the same account or do u have to make a different account
next mesa
diff
balmy wolf
Ok thanks cause im gm 4.3k. Time to grind 🔥
tropic herald
plush light
Wtf boston.
tawdry hamlet
The only nervous thing I think about is im37 not being good enough since soon is just a little above average in dps
I was hoping they would get faith or valentine so that they would have solid talent there and not just a mid performer and untested contenders guy and dogshit flex
but I love soon so I can't complain too much
just wish im37 potential was easier to gauge
I have faith in punk at least
I think fusions is the weaker of the s3 tankline
his dva against houston was solid
tawdry hamlet
I mean obviously there are better options out there but for what he is, he isn't the worst on the team
that is either fusions or chex
but I lowkey think fusions
chex on a different team might be interesting to watch tbh
see if he is ass
lowkey hope titans win their first match and shock everyone
tawdry hamlet
honestly I see so much potential since he finishes high af on ladder and has gm level on several heroes he just needs that like edge that gets him above the others
but he doesn't have one
so he just stays bottom like dalton
balmy wolf
Does anyone know of there is a way to play ow keyboard and mouse on console without a special adapter
solar bison
You need an adapter
next mesa
LOL
silk frost
Step 1: Swap to PC
Step 2: there is no step 2
Step 3: Chex is gonna be able to specialize and play well HOPEFULLY under a good coach
solar bison
Faith was rumored to boston i think
Valentine I dont know
But I’d be surprised if they didn’t get signed
next mesa
faith and valentine were rumored together
cobalt spoke
Does anyone know of there is a way to play ow keyboard and mouse on console with...
Just get a pc
Also why in this channel
balmy wolf
Also why in this channel
Cause i can play other games on keyboard and mouse on xbox series x and i was wondering since im a going to switch to pc on xmas i wanted to ask to esport community on ow to see there knowledge
balmy wolf
Yeah im gm 4379
cobalt spoke
earnest leaf
Gotta flex the SR to no one that cares
tidal ridge
hello
hot heart
Allo
earnest leaf
Twitter
karmic grotto
Rip
silk frost
I want admin just to delete this
hot heart
I mean
Wouldn't hurt to have another tank player
GaeBullsi or MekO could be very good
Especially if they sign valentine
plush grail
bro is not a single team gonna pick him up
I'm pretty sure he's willing to take a minimum contract with how hopeless he's becoming
karmic grotto
boston maybe?
plush light
Meko to valiant ez clap
hot heart
Maybe
But they seem to believe in Adam
So probably not
Yall remember rosham
From S1 SHD
hot heart
He played MT for them
I literally don't know anything about him other than that
He is the forgotten of the forgottens
I dont know of a single person today that would remotely remember his existence tbh
plush light
Roshan and the rest of the s1 dragons other than diya and undead were garbage (not counting mid-season additions)
Diya was good, and undead had his moments
plush grail
Didn't undead beat his wife or something
cedar oasis
Wait where is gamsu
plush grail
Left for league of legends
cedar oasis
Is there a western flex dps better then nero
plush grail
super
forest raven
^
plush grail
until nero pops off and dominates
im still not hyped for him and i think he's gonna drag the shock down
they picked nero over someone like libero so he's got big shoes to fill
plush light
I think that danteh is better than Nero
Danteh is an S tier flex dps, and he really puts in the effort
next mesa
Mek0 would be so much better than punk
raw ermine
stand1 meko soon valentine Faith myungbong
hot heart
That sounds pretty good
I'd feel more confident in that squad than vancouver or even paris
Great FS in myungbong
Good OT in MekO
And a solid MT in stand1
raw ermine
yeah
noble nexus
that's a great starting 6 for boston standards
cedar oasis
Meko to Seoul maybe
raw ermine
Halo already said it's quite likely toyou will get promoted to seoul
next mesa
they are
Idk how is toyou's sig, but his dva looked really good when he was playing
but we got marve1 for sig so its all gud
cedar oasis
A few good players going team less
raw ermine
sugarfree is now 2 years from OWL
cedar oasis
Boston has alot of good players they could get because no one else will pick them up
cedar oasis
Is he main support or flex
plush grail
tbh you could make a pretty good team just made of scraps this season
vagrant jacinth
You could yeah
plush grail
also imagine going back in time and telling people that meko is gonna be a free agent and he's not getting picked up
next mesa
mayb mayb
raw ermine
toronto
plush grail
meko liked mixed roster, paris is alot of mixed europe talent?
but idk how meko feels about mixed rosters after outluls
next mesa
michelle pretty good doe
plush grail
also why does lhcloudy also type in his weird accent lmao https://twitter.com/LhCloudy/status/1338204708624863233
Twitter
cedar oasis
Benbest meko nene nicgoh luffy tobi
next mesa
that team could stomp titans
cedar oasis
Sounds like a good team of people who cant find teams
plush grail
wait fuck nenne is also still lft
why are so many teams picking up weird players
but ignoring the more solid players
plush grail
he's decent
would you rather have linkzr or nenne on widow
wait pine is also still lft
plush grail
yeah nenne dragged nyxl down because for some reason libero was on widow duty and sbb on ashe duty
widow and ashe were nenne's heroes and he didnt even play them for some reason
cedar oasis
He was
plush grail
when they had libero
trail perch
He rly wasnt bad
trail perch
He played early on in the season and they won most of those matches
next mesa
no they had haksal
trail perch
and they had haksal
plush grail
they have the exact same hero pool
next mesa
haksal is just better whoru
trail perch
so there was no reason to have all 3
cedar oasis
Whoru mei was bad
plush grail
they really forced haksal into the roster imo
trail perch
Cough cough ta1yo ans glister
They did
but Haksal was so mechanically gifted it didnt matter
plush grail
i still dont get why they played a projectile player on sombra over one of the hitscan players
sbb has a good sombra but they put him on ashe if i remember correctly
cedar oasis
Because nene was bad
trail perch
No he played tracer
next mesa
if nenne actually did his job he would've been on ashe and sbb on sombra
trail perch
they played sombra tracer dive
plush grail
nenne just dragged down the dps, and hotba fucked the tankline
nyxl had everything they needed for succes
cedar oasis
I don't think nene was ever on the level of someone like ans or carpe
plush grail
only nyxl sniper who matched them was pine
next mesa
pine when he was popping
nobody beats pine in the zone
but sometimes he's not
and that's just tragic
plush grail
if pine comes back he could legit become the best ever widow
cedar oasis
Tobi jjonack
next mesa
facts facts
plush grail
he never peaked mentally
plush grail
if he manages to overcome his problems and grinds ow
he could become a fuckin monster
trail perch
I dont think there is a spot in owl for pine unless something changes about his hero pool
Putting that out there
cedar oasis
Pine can play all snipers and mcree
next mesa
for example who was it
trail perch
Pure aim specialists dont matter
cedar oasis
And tracer
next mesa
the one that reign signed
pine cant really
tracer
they need something else
like lip has a sombra
trail perch
Pine tracer<
next mesa
for example diem
diem is kinda like pine
and he couldnt find a place in owl
except back in dragons
trail perch
Diem has sombra
plush grail
nah im pretty sure diem just wanted to explore options
trail perch
Exept now they have lip
plush grail
i dont believe that diem had trouble finding a team tbh
plush grail
either that or dragons had the best offer
next mesa
couldn't find option better than dragons
trail perch
Those "aim lords" from season 1 needed to find new characters
cedar oasis
You would need 2 hitscan like in season 1 nyxl
plush grail
yeah idk if a sniper is gonna be able to start alot
next mesa
only one right now is ans
next mesa
and that's because crusty knows how to utilize him well
ans sombra and mei sucks
let's be honest
trail perch
Sombra was fine
trail perch
Mei was ehhh
trail perch
Ans sombra was good enough
plush grail
idk why the WINSTON GOD jhong hasn't been signed yet
trail perch
to not be a throw
cedar oasis
You could make like 3 different teams full of good owl players that havent been signed
And they would be good
plush grail
rascal pine pog
trail perch
Fissure
plush grail
bumper
next mesa
we dont even know if fissure is lft
trail perch
is bumper lft
cedar oasis
Most teams have a decent mt
plush grail
jekong
trail perch
sanginar and jehong on support
Thats a pog team
Fucking Fissure Jjanu, fuck meko, Rascal, Pine, Jehong Sanguinar
I mean FS needs a backup but still
plush grail
luffy
cedar oasis
Nah
plush grail
dding ot?
plush grail
geguri is for sure not returning to owl
0 chance
with player like jjano and meko struggling to find teams
cedar oasis
Will there be anymore teams joining owl
plush grail
probabaly not rn because of covid
but if anyone wants to join owl
this is the perfect time
tons of talent for cheap
cedar oasis
Theres so many good players not on a team
plush grail
also flow3r is lft
mortal abyss
2017
cedar oasis
Then nyxl coaching killed him
plush grail
it's gonna be weird in the new season
seeing sbb playing against jjonak
mano playing against sbb
anamo and jjonak not being on the same side
trail perch
Hotba no team pog
cedar oasis
Who would be jjonacks support partner
plush grail
jhong
cedar oasis
Jjonack zen jehong ana
raw ermine
nowadays its jjonak ana jehong ana
plush grail
cedar oasis
Is nyxl the only team without a full roster
mortal abyss
toronto i think
cedar oasis
Or London
plush grail
sado beast tankline is gonna be interesting tbh
cedar oasis
Beast will just be there to warm the bench
cedar oasis
Beast was the 2nd worst mt last season
cedar oasis
Maybey fusions
cobalt spoke
Fusions was bad
tidal ridge
fusions wasnt the worst though
cobalt spoke
But that had more to do with him being boomed by being on boston
I think he peaks much higher than this
mortal abyss
Fusions at the 2018 world cup though 👀
noble nexus
Fusions could be ok as a rein otp if they just let him focus on it
his monkey was ok too if I remember
tidal ridge
i could argue OGE, shredlock, and roar being worse
noble nexus
roar was absolutely worse
his team did better without a main tank than they did with one
next mesa
to be fair decay zarya was pretty cracked
raw ermine
r0ar<fusions
tidal ridge
yeah that patch was interesting... to say the least
noble nexus
that patch needs to never happen again tbh
tidal ridge
is rio still on guangzhou?
raw ermine
yeah
tidal ridge
bruh
vagrant jacinth
Owl talent is so good rn
mortal abyss
Who was the name of the coach that had to fill and play brig for his contenders/ contenders trials. And despite him being plat they swept the series?
chilly obsidian
i remember that
cobalt spoke
Yea
But he was a coach
Sure brig carried him
But he probably knows alot about the game and how to use an easy hero to its fullest
silk frost
Still impressive
mortal abyss
I know I just wanted to see if anyone knew the his name/whatever team he played for cause I forgot
cobalt spoke
Idk
silk frost
Wasnt it BH or something?
mortal abyss
He knew the teams comm structures and would have monitored scrims, so he would of known how to play the comp, then there’s the fact that brig isn’t very mechanically demanding
plush grail
nah bh had a player disconnect and they played 2 maps with 5 people
mortal abyss
I don’t think it was BH
plush grail
once the 6th player returned they reverse swept
silk frost
Also by the way one of my buddies had his PS4 account hacked and because it was linked to his credit card, he lost $400, so watch out
next mesa
I gotchu man dont worry I dont have a ps4 
plush grail
hello welcome to #esports-discussion where we discuss esports
silk frost
sp9rk1e is forever
cedar oasis
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
What other good main supports are there
silk frost
ex-OWL or in general
plush grail
What other good main supports are there
me
silk frost
admiralraptr
plush grail
when im not feeding i play a mean lucio
silk frost
Jofi
cedar oasis
Owl players
plush grail
still me
silk frost
has Coma said anything?
plush grail
what if im viol2t in disguise
next mesa
SUPERICH
silk frost
Boink
true hound
ggs
cedar oasis
Are bh in the gauntlet?
cedar oasis
Ok
keen latch
c9 good strategy
lethal sluice
how can i get the bot for a server like the overwatch esports news
keen latch
idk man
wanton birch
klinda want glads to sign Moose so they have a tank line of Muze and Moose
balmy wolf
Was fury a DPS before he became tank?
I was watching Birdring's stream today and Fury won like 9 straight 1v1s in a row against him
raw ermine
nope
next mesa
just built diff
raw ermine
he is a nut with mechanics tho
balmy wolf
Fury made Birdring change his sens midway lol
cloud latch
he played pharah in owl once
balmy wolf
wento from 400 to 1600
and still got destroyed like 3 more times
Scary how good the Koreans are lol
mortal abyss
how can i get the bot for a server like the overwatch esports news
follow the channel
tawdry hamlet
tbh thinking about the main support position there are only like 3 big names, ljg, moth, and fdgod
the rest are just like oh yeah they exist I guess
if I missed an obvious name don't burn me at the stake ok
cobalt spoke
Drue
cobalt spoke
Slime and tobi are just good
noble nexus
^
cobalt spoke
Middle of above average
noble nexus
I like Tobi on mercy
cobalt spoke
He isnt
noble nexus
literally just said above average
cobalt spoke
He isnt top 3 either
next mesa
I feel like tobi has the best mercy after moth
noble nexus
probably
next mesa
but then again
feral zodiac
Hard to tell
next mesa
he pulled out his glock way too late against viol2t
cobalt spoke
Thats the thing
feral zodiac
It's hard to remember all the main supports
cobalt spoke
Moth Funnyastro and fdgod almost never make ugly point- hell even game-losing plays
feral zodiac
Flex supports we have an insane amount of incredible players
Main support not so much
cobalt spoke
Yea
feral zodiac
I haven't seen slime make a game losing play this season
Then again
He was sort of a free agent for the entire season
vancouver org lmao
noble nexus
Slime didn't play so much this season whereas Moth FunnyAstro and Fdgod all started consistently and looked good
if Slime played enough I reckon he could be top 3 but I didn't see enough of him to know
feral zodiac
Forgive me for asking this but
noble nexus
plus you're fucked if you think I'm staying up till like 5am to watch apac games to watch Slime
feral zodiac
Is gangnamjin flex or main
noble nexus
main
feral zodiac
Where would you rate him?
noble nexus
uhhhh
feral zodiac
Bad, below average, Average, above average, one of the best
noble nexus
about average to above average really
next mesa
above average
primal minnow
I thought gangnamjim was a flex?
primal minnow
Gangnamjin*
noble nexus
unless he just played brig
primal minnow
No Kris was main
primal minnow
Kris played all main supports
noble nexus
I'm having a stroke
give me a minute big man
ohhh
yeah I'm thinking about Kris then
feral zodiac
iDK?
primal minnow
iDK was a decent main support for spark
plush light
What if shock sign fl0w3r
raw ermine
6 dps?
plush light
Yes. For the overwatch 2 6 dps meta from ranked
mortal abyss
i don't think any team needs flow3r rn
tawdry hamlet
I think tbh the lack of stars in main support is just a result of a main support not being able to look good on a bad team tbh
Like boston last season plus moth would still be bottom tier
Like all the top tier main supports are on top tier teams while there are plenty of top tier players in other roles trapped in shit teams
plush grail
Message too long didn't read
tawdry hamlet
tawdry hamlet
Opinions on best American Dps player? Danteh? Corey?
trail perch
oh
tawdry hamlet
Swedish
trail perch
ummm prob not danteh bc he was pretty washed
tawdry hamlet
Hmm, just thinking about how moth is the only American role star nowadays
trail perch
Super?
tawdry hamlet
Well and super
tawdry hamlet
I think
plush grail
Not right now
trail perch
I mean he should be
tawdry hamlet
I don't consider super a role star because smurf is better
Hehe
But yeah I forget super since rein hasn't been relevant in ages
tawdry hamlet
I think his leadership might play a part in their success but smurf choi can easily get by without him lolll
tawdry hamlet
I thought space was pretty good
next mesa
yeah he is but he's not role star
plush grail
Ameng is also a fucking chad, but for some reason not a role star
trail perch
neither is super
plush grail
The system is obviously flawed
balmy wolf
hes legit a orisa and ball 2 trick in owl
plush grail
Yeah remember when he beat shock single handedly
tawdry hamlet
Still hate the fact chengdu beat london last playoffs
balmy wolf
i think back in contenders his OT played winston instead of him because he was so bad at it
plush grail
Don't disrespect ameng please
plush grail
Who the fuck is babel
tawdry hamlet
He was the other london hitscan lmao
That's why nobody remembers him because glister go brr
balmy wolf
yea s3 london was pretty forgettable
plush grail
Isn't he a coach now
silk frost
babel is the best player ever of all time
tawdry hamlet
plush grail
Lmaoo look at this dumbass, typing pedophiles wrong
noble nexus
Teengrazper
trail perch
pedophiles? thats a weird way to spell Fr3e
fierce fossil
hm
feral zodiac
Babel seemed pretty good
earnest leaf
Without super, shock would have no content
Need the egotistical twig to farm content
next mesa
that sounds wrong
plush grail
Abusing a young child for their own profit
wow if shock is interested in doing that they should look into signing dreamkazper and mouffin
tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
redshell while they're at it
balmy wolf
that sounds wrong
reindeer mai
next mesa
Yas
plush grail
Weeb shit
balmy wolf
Mai is top tier
plush grail
Weeb shit still
vagrant jacinth
Babel was good mayn
slow kraken
Super has to much money value to let go
gilded dagger
Honestly uprising academy is better than the actual team Lmfao
tawdry hamlet
cobalt spoke
tawdry hamlet
plush light
What if nyxl signs pine
tawdry hamlet
at least he got frd and ellivote accurate
tawdry hamlet
also elsa at the bottom?
elsa is easily better than frd lmao
not that elsa is that good in general but
silk frost
molf higher, hawk lower
imo
good to see Lige high tho
I do think Punk is that good though
tawdry hamlet
if punk is really that good and fusions was replaced and soon was added why does nobody have faith 😦
also
chex has emongg as an avoided teammate for some reason lmao
tawdry hamlet
chex uses a black crosshair
I literally said to my friend the other day, what weirdo actually uses a dark colored crosshair
and I believe we have found them
and they happen to be the worst dps in the owl 
balmy wolf
ans uses a black crosshair actually
sullen berry
Elsa and Lateyoung are above A+
It's called the Chengdu Zone
sullen berry
You can outplay elsa
balmy wolf
no usually i find theres so many damn colors in this game u can get away not even using one
sullen berry
But on a streaky day he will slap your mother and almost beat the sf shock in a 2-3
Agreed
tawdry hamlet
chex is just so strange, literally the only owl player who uses a glorious mouse
the rest are all razer zowie or logitech
and this dude got the glorious model 0
sullen berry
chex is just so strange, literally the only owl player who uses a glorious mouse
The glorious O is fantastic wdym
GiG and Fran happen to use the same Cooler Master lightweight mouse I have
balmy wolf
wired or wireless version?
next mesa
Model o seems pretty pog
sullen berry
Good value for money
tropic herald
Always so sad when people shit on hex
tropic herald
Imagine Shanghai put Diem on Mei all season
sullen berry
Why would you sign him you expect clutch things at best
tropic herald
That’s the predicament Chex is in
tawdry hamlet
😦
sullen berry
At worst well, he said he could place real high on dps ladder
balmy wolf
isnt chex a hitscan dps
balmy wolf
or like a hitscan with some projectile
tawdry hamlet
even though hitscan is his strongest role
tropic herald
He’s a widow tracer Pharah Ashe guy
tawdry hamlet
it is like when dalton has to flex
tropic herald
He’s literally a good hitscan he also just was forced to play flex dps all year
sullen berry
Unmistakeable that he's doomed to fail without a complementary hitscan like erster
Where you don't even guess, he'd just okay in whatever role you fit him in
This is the lower salary result of that same player
tawdry hamlet
I think he is still easily low tier hitscan regardless of having to play mei all season. I mean dalton beat him in a 1v1 and this is dalton we talking about lmao
tropic herald
Dalton still a good hitscan too
balmy wolf
i mean considering boston now has 3 hitscan dps its seems weird why hes on the roster
tropic herald
And if widow 1v1s meant anything then why isn’t Linkzr considered the best widow NA
tawdry hamlet
Soon is flex, I saw him play the rat at one point
the na widow game weak af in the first place
tropic herald
Shockwave
balmy wolf
actually the better comparsion is eu players
NA by far is the weakest region in any fps
tropic herald
Ok I say NA but I mean nonAPAC
balmy wolf
corey was probs the last good hitscan dps from NA
maybe tay1o as well but we havent seen his actual hitscan besides genji
tawdry hamlet
I thought cs go was eu dominated
balmy wolf
it is
tawdry hamlet
astralis is from denmark 
earnest leaf
what do we got going for us in na role wise
balmy wolf
actually NA contenders legit just poached players from EU a lot of the time
most of the better NA teams back then are just EU players
next mesa
I still don't know how usa won owwc
tawdry hamlet
we need more cross region shows in general so we can tell if the gap between someone like ksp and someone like diem is as big as it seems
next mesa
How did crusty did the fuck up
next mesa
Ok that's kinda facts
balmy wolf
super, sinatraa, moth and pretty much outliers in being NA players
earnest leaf
yea
next mesa
Just get like striker haksal
balmy wolf
it was hard double shield
earnest leaf
I think NA also practice a bit more than other teams
next mesa
Viol2t slime
earnest leaf
Broken orisa was not hard to play
tawdry hamlet
I want to see diem vs ksp and like onigod vs ans and shit already pls owl cross ocean game pls
balmy wolf
sig is still broken in ranked rn lmao
tawdry hamlet
when is he not