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tawdry hamlet
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tbh idk I just like players but meme teams like chengdu amuse me lol

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running ball no matter what

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the chengdu way

digital cloud
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ball is pretty much always not bad

worn falcon
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Chengdu will be APAC champion next year

digital cloud
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they can get wins with any meta that way

plush grail
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the virgin meta vs the chad BALL 24/7

weak bolt
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Ball always has the advatage that you know the enemy hasn't scrimmed against it

tawdry hamlet
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I do kind of like Boston im ngl, I really have hope for them next season

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if they don't do at least mid or lower mid I will probably lose hope

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but currently hope is there

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I liked a few players on vancouver last season even if they were hot garbage

weak bolt
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Boston being 18th or higher at the end of S4 is a victory for them

tawdry hamlet
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like ksaa and pogwave and dalton didn't look awful awful

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I enjoyed

worn falcon
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wait bastionmain is in contendies?

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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LOL

earnest leaf
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Lmao

plush grail
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boston has had a canadian and american pedo

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korean pedo?

tawdry hamlet
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nah the korean pedo is free and he is in prison atm methinks

plush grail
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also wasn't either mouffin or dreamkazper lft

earnest leaf
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Not this year

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S5 will have one

tawdry hamlet
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earnest leaf
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But it will be a supp player

tawdry hamlet
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this dude kind of ew

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funnily enough the florida manager accidentally put them on the list of people they posted and the comments then had to remind him that free is in prison

plush grail
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wow did he legit fuck that up

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big brain moves

tawdry hamlet
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yeah lmao

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honest mistake I guess lmao

raw ermine
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Checkmate

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Seems good

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With kuki, anyanything is possible

limber pine
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that's 2 players from OZ

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I wonder what he covers that Yaki can't

raw ermine
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Seems to be a really good echo

plush grail
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ok but rascal when

tawdry hamlet
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^^

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I NEED to know already pls league

cedar oasis
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Nyxl suck

tawdry hamlet
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literally whatever team gets him turns into an instant big name

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I just wanna know who gets him sadgery2

cedar oasis
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They did the eyes thing yesterday and no announcements

keen aurora
tawdry hamlet
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ooh

keen aurora
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ye yakpung and bianca

cedar oasis
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Just as I said that

keen aurora
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pog

cedar oasis
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I wanna know who will be jjonacks support partner

plush grail
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they managed to clone jjonak

keen aurora
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aimgod?

next mesa
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ryujehong

cedar oasis
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Are there any good flex supports left

plush grail
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jhong jjonak isn't gonna happen

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but it would be hella fucking hype if it happened

hidden vault
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Is double flex the new meta

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Haha

cloud latch
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is yakpung good?

keen aurora
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ye he is

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rilly good monkey man

tawdry hamlet
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my pc crashed randomly angerybongo

keen aurora
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sung wu kong

raw ermine
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My pc randomly hid my hotba

tawdry hamlet
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I forgot ryujehong is lft isn't he

raw ermine
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Hotbar

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Lmao

tawdry hamlet
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hotba some dog shit

plush grail
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hotba pog

cedar oasis
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Is gido still playing overwatch

plush grail
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no he became a pro angry birds player

tawdry hamlet
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Bastion in contenders go brr

cedar oasis
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That announcement video was hype

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For nyxl

keen aurora
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bastion=pog

tawdry hamlet
keen aurora
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the bastion uprising

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Wut i didnt know bastionmain played contenders

trail perch
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I wasnt jehong to become main support to stop being washed

silk frost
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that mayhem roster spooks me

trail perch
plush grail
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POGBA

trail perch
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Hotba was second largest reason for nyxl failure besides imt

tawdry hamlet
lime field
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damn was hotba that bad? i haven't caught up with owl in a while no idea how he actually performed

trail perch
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Yeah he just didnt work well in a team envirnment

hot heart
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Didn't perform well

trail perch
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Mechnanically he was prob fine

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But he didnt peal

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peel

hot heart
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Last year playoffs he really popped off

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So

trail perch
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over extended

hot heart
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Everyone thought he'd be really good

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Then he flopped

trail perch
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yeah, guangzhou was a good place for him

lime field
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sadge hope their new tank players perform well

trail perch
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because shu didnt need as much help as jjonak

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jjonak needs the to to basically body guard him

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but when that happens they win so if i was a coach I would make it happen

lime field
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yeah jjonak is a beast, what do you guys think about their new tanks? good pickups?

trail perch
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Bianca is good, yakpung ok

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I didnt watch o2 that much so he could be a beast

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Bianca was prob the best young breakout OT last season

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besides hanbin

cedar oasis
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Yakpung got Kaiser benched I think

trail perch
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oh rly

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damn

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I still love kaiser from the eye of the kaiser

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in APEX

karmic grotto
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ngl

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vikky lips arekinda hot

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don't @ me

true hound
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my mans pendrix

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turbo inter

karmic grotto
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He's trying at least

plush grail
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joobi outlaws

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who?

lime field
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anyone else think the British hurricane are going to get promoted to the spitfire?

raw ermine
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nearly 100% chance they will

plush grail
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no im pretty sure not

raw ermine
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?

plush grail
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they will pick up

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angry titans

raw ermine
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ah yes

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my mistake

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2 people with no liquipedia page

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stacked AF

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gg

trail perch
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they will pick up shus money crew

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tf u smoking

karmic grotto
plush grail
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nahhhh

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they're gonna pick up runaway

feral inlet
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That's weird why does the schedule say that China and Korea are playing at the same time are they playing against each other

feral inlet
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That's what i thought ok

raw ermine
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TLDR:
he's prolly gonna retire

plush grail
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thats old news

raw ermine
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true but I didn't see anyone post it here

karmic grotto
raw ermine
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ayy

weak bolt
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Good signing

raw ermine
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he's here

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homie is still underage, and will be of age by april 4th

weak bolt
raw ermine
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so that could mean OWL is pushed back

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for

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say

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OW2?

feral inlet
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?

weak bolt
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They already said OWL will start April time

raw ermine
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o rlly?

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hm

weak bolt
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yeah was part of Jon Spectres announcement a while back I believe

tawdry hamlet
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bro im getting all the announcements

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ok well you guys are

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but I am posting them because get rekt empathy

worn falcon
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smh poggy

plush grail
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slow

tidal ridge
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sanguinar...

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also now it's just new york and london

plush grail
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nyxl who

weak bolt
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YZNSA4 is crazy on Pharah, its ridiculous

earnest leaf
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He kept farming super on ladder one day

silk frost
earnest leaf
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jmac coach?

silk frost
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and yeatle

weak bolt
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Jmac said he was taking a temporary coaching role, but was still LFT

silk frost
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Jmac retired

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yzna4 is too good tho

raw ermine
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he's lft coaching

silk frost
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ah ok

weak bolt
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This game is weird to try follow lol Kaan vs Daan, Kssar and Naga

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Have to really listen properly

earnest leaf
raw ermine
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I was wondering why they had nothing in the tweet

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I thought it might be a similar format to florida today

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but I guess not

weak bolt
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Its an announcement announcement by looks of it

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wait nvm

raw ermine
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yeah

weak bolt
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I stopped watching half way through

wanton birch
feral inlet
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Dubai finally scored a point

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For a sec I thought they were about to be 3-0

raw ermine
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did obey every swap to counter pharah? yeah they had dva but that wasn't enough. did they go mccree at all?

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anddd

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as soon as i send that I saw lethal swapped cree

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guess they were just too good

feral inlet
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So yeah obey won

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K the next match is in 30 mins

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does this time between matches count towards the hours to the skins because I'm still in the livestream

flint zephyr
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i rly wanna be an esports gamer for overwatch

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once i get it for my switch imma grind non stop

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climb ranks

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and maybe get recruited

feral inlet
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does this time between matches count towards the hours to the skins because I'm still in the livestream

raw ermine
raw ermine
flint zephyr
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;-;

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i cant afford a PC

feral inlet
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I upgraded from my switch to a pc

flint zephyr
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and my mom would probably be like "no"

feral inlet
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Get a Xbox those are similar price if you wanna become more serious with over watch and can't afford a pc

flint zephyr
raw ermine
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Xbox wouldn't work either for going pro. It's all PC

flint zephyr
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i have an xbox one

raw ermine
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Your best bet is getting into streaming if you wanna make money off playing OW, but thats for you to decide

feral inlet
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PC is definitely the way to go but switch is honestly the worst thing to play over watch stick with your Xbox and save for a pc

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Trust me

flint zephyr
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alright

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but umm what is the price for the chaeapest pc with good specs?

feral inlet
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It depends

flint zephyr
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how much did ur pc cost?

feral inlet
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I built my PC from scratch and it has expensive parts

flint zephyr
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nice

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but i dont have time for that

feral inlet
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that's why in can't tell you a price because it really differs

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Like mine is over 1k$ and it's my own effort but I guarantee a PC with my specs would cost a lot more prebuilt

flint zephyr
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pffff

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i just moved

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i only have 8 dollars fam

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im broke

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flat broke

feral inlet
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If you are gonna buy prebuilt calculate the cost of the parts combined then get the original price and minus your PC parts price

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Well my PC is quite overkill

flint zephyr
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lucky

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my mom doesnt even know i like gaming like that

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she think i want to be a psychologist when i grow up

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i want to play overwatch for a profession tho

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she doesnt know that

feral inlet
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I have i7 10th gen 32 gigs ram nvidia 3070 800 watt power supply 6 fans 2terabyte hardrive 512 ssd

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I spent like a while saving up

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But I'm also sinking my money into switch games

flint zephyr
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and if i tell her shell be like "that will get u no where in life" or "Gaming is a waste of time"

raw ermine
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the esport it is a new enough state where you can't expect to make an entire future career off of it yet. So even if you make it to OWL and you good, it would be difficult to last long, whether that be the league ending, you getting outclassed, or you just not wanting to be there any more

feral inlet
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If you do wanna pursue gaming as a profession I recommend a back up plan for a normal job

raw ermine
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yeah

flint zephyr
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ur so lucky

feral inlet
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Streaming and gaming as a profession is risky

flint zephyr
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i bet it so fun to play with amazing graphics

feral inlet
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So I recommend start small and keep it a hobby maybe if your good enough maybe go to some small local tournaments and stuff and once you know you can do it and keep up dip into it a little more but always keep a backup

flint zephyr
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but im over here playing on a switch with only 32 gigabytes while u have 2terabytes like wtf

feral inlet
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that's just hardrive I have 512 gb of ssd

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Well I use my PC for more than gaming lol

flint zephyr
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so OP

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still lol

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have u ever thought on becoming an Esports gamer?

feral inlet
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I'm not that good but it's my favorite pass time I'm a pretty mean support tho if I get serious

flint zephyr
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nice

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maybe when i get it on my Xbox or if i ever get a PC ZaryaLUL then maybe we could play a few matches?

feral inlet
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Sure

tropic herald
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Thinking about how EU Gauntlet had two OTP teams fight eachother

noble nexus
next mesa
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fuck off bitch

noble nexus
silk frost
feral inlet
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So anyone know how the contender skins work like if i watch enough hours is it like instant or do i have to wait till the month is over im confused

hot heart
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In an ideal world it should be instant

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But it could taks up to a day or two to get your skins

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After you watch enough hours of course.

feral inlet
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Ok

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Cause i have 8 hours which I think is enough for one skin

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Why is this stream going for so long but yesterday’s was only 3 hours

tawdry hamlet
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you get them instantly

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I just finished getting all of them

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yesterday was asia gauntlet

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this is na eu gauntlet so it is 6 games

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not 3

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I just got zen and mercy today

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pog

weak bolt
silk frost
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interesting

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not the uppiest grade

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but an interesting pickup

plush light
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Na1st deserves this

raw ermine
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owo

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so he's friends of alarm, and alarm is friends with KDG, so they have a connection?

hot heart
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Maybe

edgy tinsel
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NA1ST YAY

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Also any announcements today? been inactive

feral inlet
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So far its been 6 and a half hours since the stream started and ive been watching all of it and im pretty sure theres another match starting at 12 am

feral inlet
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@tawdry hamlet its not instant because i watched 3 hours yesterday and almost 7 hours today and haven’t gotten junk rat

tawdry hamlet
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do you have the green box and all that jazz

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and sometimes it is fucky

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just give it another stream

feral inlet
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Green box

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?

tawdry hamlet
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I played while I had it on my phone and got it without even restarting my game or anything

feral inlet
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What do you mean green box

sullen berry
edgy tinsel
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Nobody answered me :(

sullen berry
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Did you miss any of the big announcements this week?

edgy tinsel
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only today

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or yesterday depending where u live

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11th December

sullen berry
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It’s the 12th here, see what you find under the Florida mayhem in #esports-news

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Mayhem Slime, OGE and flex dps Checkmate

edgy tinsel
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who joobi

shell forum
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wait

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who does sparkle play for now?

sullen berry
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Sp9rk1e is on Dallas

shell forum
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ahh

edgy tinsel
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dallas

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all old EM players do

sullen berry
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It’s lit, but the fuel fans have suffered a bit in the identity loss now

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No more western players to become attached to

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Only good players with a great coach that will secure the bag next year - only time will tell if they meet expectations

sullen berry
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It’s okay, me neither. That’s currently the US proving grounds

hot heart
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How good is na1st

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I've heard he was good during his time on T1

sullen berry
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On paper, he’s historically very good

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I know him best as a sub during FU days

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And was alright on Meta Bellum

hot heart
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Ohhh

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He was benched by whoru wasnt he

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Or am i thinking of different times

raw ermine
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he played there after whoru left

hot heart
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Hmm

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Aight

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Na1st heesu dps line

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Whats their third dps then

raw ermine
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logix

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but probably another projectile

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if they get one

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or at least a flex sup

hot heart
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Tbh

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Toronto lookin nice

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Beast Sado Michelle Heesu Na1st Logix Ansoonjae Aztac

silk frost
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moreso he was picked up to replace whoru because he's a more stable player, if less explosive

hot heart
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So they trade out explosiveness for stability

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Hmm

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This team is looking very dependent on their supports rn

tawdry hamlet
trail perch
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he doesnt deserve one

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after the shit he pulled at NYXL

hot heart
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I mean

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If he's willing to go to like boston

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I think he has a shot

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But

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Seen as jjanu or even meko are struggling rn

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He's pretty fucked

tawdry hamlet
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I was being sarcastic he doesn't deserve a team lmao

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he is t2 at best

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piggy is better than him

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imo

silk frost
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He started the season fantastc

raw ermine
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he got 2 3k bombs, one cause the other team had to stall on point at the end of a payload map, and then the world went wild

tawdry hamlet
raw ermine
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oh man yeah

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the comms

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lmao

trail perch
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xQc Danteh Space and Custa

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Custa would be like an in game father

digital cloud
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he does seem like that

upper niche
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Custa basically pulled Valiant together.

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When he was with Dallas it was a bunch of childish kids that lacked matuurity.

hot heart
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Hmm

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What does NA rankings look like now?

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With Philly gone and mayhem just announcing massive pick ups

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Idek

trail perch
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The pickups arent that massive

hot heart
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eh

trail perch
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just for the record

hot heart
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In terms of the potential they have

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They're incredibly massive

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OGE could be incredible

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Slime has shown top tier play

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Checkmate for me is a wildcard

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Haven't seen the guy play

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But i assume he did pretty well in trials

trail perch
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compare it to the other top teams in NA

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I would take fearless over OGE

hot heart
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Yeah

trail perch
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Hanbin over Gargoyale

balmy wolf
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mayhem is top 5 in na imo

trail perch
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Yeah easy

hot heart
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I wouldn't say mayhem is 2nd

earnest leaf
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I still think people are overrating dallas

trail perch
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but maybe not top 2

hot heart
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But i think they're top 4

trail perch
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No dallas easy number 2

earnest leaf
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nah

hot heart
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Who competes with dallss

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Like

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At supports

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Yeah

earnest leaf
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Paris 2.0 won't be that bad but won't be anything special

hot heart
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Huh

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I mean

earnest leaf
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dallas is paris 2.0

hot heart
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Hmm

trail perch
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Dallas still has fielder

balmy wolf
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wasnt paris like 4th place in the regular season

hot heart
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Having fearless is a gamr changer though

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That and doha

trail perch
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and if jecse rekindles EM magic he pops tf off

hot heart
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Yeah

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I think rapel could do very well

balmy wolf
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fearless is the game changer in dallas currently

trail perch
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the old synergy

hot heart
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Yeah

balmy wolf
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no mt problems now unlike old paris

earnest leaf
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It's paris with a better MT and maybe a sidegrade or even downgrade for MS

trail perch
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will really help the team

hot heart
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Downgrade for MS

earnest leaf
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Also, I didn't watch much apac, but wasn't fearless meh on orisa?

hot heart
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Yeah

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He was a bit above average ig

balmy wolf
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alright was legit 4th in the regular season

hot heart
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Not special though

balmy wolf
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their gonna average around top 5 easily in NA

hot heart
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Just fine

earnest leaf
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MY point is Dallas isn't gonna be a grand finals contending team or something

hot heart
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I mean

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Depends on how rapel does

earnest leaf
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they'll do what paris did, look solid in most metas, snag some big wins and do decently all around

hot heart
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And jecse

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Rush seems to think rapel has alot of potential but OWL fucked him over

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Which tbh

earnest leaf
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I would personally take glads and shock over them still

hot heart
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Probably

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Hmm

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Glads

earnest leaf
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But in the end we don't know

hot heart
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Maybe

trail perch
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I would not take glads

hot heart
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But see the thing with dallas is that they've got explosiveness at Dps and tank

trail perch
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Muze is worse than fearless

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Space is worse than hanbin

hot heart
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Yeah

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Tank line isnt better

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But

trail perch
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Sparkle Xzi and Doha are better than kevster space and birdring

hot heart
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The support line is much better than what dallas are sporting

earnest leaf
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I think space can be comparable

hot heart
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Nah

trail perch
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fielder at least equal shu

earnest leaf
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And birdring/kevster are solid

hot heart
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He's good

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But he isn't as good as hanbin

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Yeah

next mesa
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idk about space man

hot heart
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The dps line for glads is very good

next mesa
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he's more versatile

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but like

hot heart
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But i mean

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Against doha sp9rk1e and xzi

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What chance do you have

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Maybe like

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Some specific metas

earnest leaf
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sparkle looked about average on most things besides genji

hot heart
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But they're just more talented

earnest leaf
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Xzi is a nut though

hot heart
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Doha though

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He brings up this dps line from previously lacking a bit

trail perch
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Nutty on most heros

hot heart
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To being able to fill most heroes

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And most metas

trail perch
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Yall are also kinda tunnel visioning

hot heart
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At a high degree

trail perch
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bc its more than just individual talant

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Dallas has previous synergy

earnest leaf
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as does glads

hot heart
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Yeah

trail perch
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Not really

earnest leaf
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moth/shu used to be on a team together

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and I think space

balmy wolf
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not to the level of element mystic

trail perch
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Yeah

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not basically 2+ years of playing together

hot heart
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I think DF are the better team

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But

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Glads with time could be on the same level

earnest leaf
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I'm expecting dallas to end around 4th/5th

trail perch
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I think more time with rush

true hound
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just watch kevster go crazy

trail perch
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will make dallas crazy

balmy wolf
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glads have the same track record of doing alright in the regular season and then dropping off in playoffs

hot heart
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My stock is all in kevster next year

trail perch
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Because rush>dpei

balmy wolf
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^

trail perch
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I think dallas has a chance to be lowkey good

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but like lowkey 1

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st place

earnest leaf
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nah

hot heart
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Nah

trail perch
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I think they can

earnest leaf
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Shock still beats them at each role

trail perch
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Thats debateable

hot heart
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They need an insane support line to compete

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And they dont

earnest leaf
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and even SHD could probably handle them

trail perch
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especially with the loss of rascal

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nero<rascal

hot heart
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Don't sleep on nero

earnest leaf
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They still have rascal/ans/nero/glister/ta1yo

hot heart
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Dude's a nut

balmy wolf
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shock has depth still

hot heart
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Yeah

next mesa
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in the right meta

earnest leaf
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Maybe in a genji meta they would beat shock

hot heart
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Only meta i see dallas Probably be 1st in OWL is like

trail perch
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I think if double shield ever comes back

hot heart
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Genji or doom meta

trail perch
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Dallas could be shock

hot heart
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Sp9rk1e and doha with fearless

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Bro

earnest leaf
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Even in double shield

trail perch
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Because Hanbin>choi sigma

earnest leaf
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Shock is most likely gonna be able to be above them majority of the time

trail perch
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And orisa cant hard cary]ry

balmy wolf
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it isnt the sig diff in double shield

hot heart
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The sig and the bap

earnest leaf
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yea they got viol2t on bapt saying hello

hot heart
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Or zen

trail perch
#

Fielder bap

earnest leaf
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Shock just beats them out straight up on support and dps

trail perch
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not bad at all

balmy wolf
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when shock lost it was the genji buff that closed the gap

hot heart
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Look

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Shock is just better

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Every role

trail perch
#

I think that jecse could def catch up to FDgod

hot heart
#

Nah

earnest leaf
#

Crusty coaching op

trail perch
#

On the EM roster

hot heart
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He isnt coming close probably

trail perch
#

With all of their almost Runaway levels of synergy

hot heart
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Have you seen FDgod play

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And crusty coaching him

trail perch
#

Yes I was a paris fan last year

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Thats why i moved to dallas

hot heart
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Idc what rush's crackpipe has got but it isn't gonna beat crusty's

earnest leaf
#

Shock is coming up on 3 solid years of synergy building, granted with a few new pieces

trail perch
#

smurf was really just one year

true hound
#

bold to assume Dallas won’t go through their cycle of misery once again

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Lets pray

trail perch
#

FDgod is new

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Nero is new

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2 starters most likely

earnest leaf
trail perch
#

thats 1/3 of the starting roster

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Twilight is only one year

next mesa
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Idk the only one new in their starting sixth

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would be fdgod

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like most of the time

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in my opinion

trail perch
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Unless we get more ash tracer nero prob got the spot

earnest leaf
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just really gotta hope it's not a double flex supp meta

trail perch
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And I stg if we get more ash tracer I will die

earnest leaf
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Because then you gotta toy with twilight/viol2t supp line

trail perch
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bc its getting old

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Hackfist meta Dallas would just win

hot heart
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Im genuinely curious what dallas do in an ashe meta

trail perch
#

Xzi sparkle

hot heart
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Do they just hope it isnt ashe

trail perch
#

Xzi ash not bad

hot heart
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Xzi's ashe was dogshit

trail perch
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not rly especially early on in the season

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Xzi stood out on ashe and soldier

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before pulling out his widow

hot heart
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If you play any top or even mid tier team xzi could get beaten in the ashe duels

hot heart
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Not ashe

trail perch
#

Anyone could get beaten in widow duels

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ashe*

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Ans lost to Bqb for a while

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in may melee

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Ans beat decay

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I would say decay better than ans

balmy wolf
#

i think xzi got benched in ashe heavy metas

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for soon instead

trail perch
#

That was due to injury

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wrist

hot heart
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Soon was the better ashe im ngl

trail perch
#

after summer showdown he got hurt

hot heart
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Xzi is the guy you field on widow or mccree

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Not ashe

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But then again

trail perch
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I guess we'll see

hot heart
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Dallas might not have an option

trail perch
#

But Rush smokes some real crack

earnest leaf
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Also yea, if it's double hitscan dallas is gonna have some issues

hot heart
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If xzi works on his ashe

trail perch
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And gets shit done

hot heart
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Could be incrediblely good

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But thats a big if

trail perch
#

Sparkle tracer actually getting good

hot heart
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Yeah

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Sp9rk1e and doha share playtime probably

trail perch
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like idk if this is too far, but with rush yong and aid, maybe sparkle could hit like shax level

earnest leaf
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That would be pretty tough

trail perch
#

but Doha prob gets the spot bc sombra is vry simmilar to tracers whole aiming style

earnest leaf
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unless he one tricked her for a long time

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eh i'd say sombra and tracer are pretty different

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way different playstyles/goals

trail perch
#

Saebyoble in s2 would disagree

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And as a masters sombra and tracer I would disagree

next mesa
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he probably grinded a lot with being benched

balmy wolf
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i mean doha easily has the better sombra on the team

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compared to either sparkle or xzi

trail perch
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Saebeyolbe got so good at sombra by playing her the way he played tracer, that was the sbb diff

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he was the assassin

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not the emp farmer

earnest leaf
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I barely remember s2

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all I remember was goatsgoatsgoatsgoats doubleshield

next mesa
#

it was like normal goats

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and then sombra goats

hot heart
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Rush said sp9rk1e was doing better on the traced than doha on his last q&a

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Because his reaction times were so quick i think was the reasoning

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But he also said both of them couldn't hit stickies for shit

earnest leaf
#

Hitting pulses is rough

hot heart
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Ye

slow kraken
#

How good is na1st

digital cloud
#

good

silk frost
#

He's got a strong foundation and is mentally solid and consistent

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Would've worked on Seoul imo

karmic grotto
#

See?

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Fuel should have signed Kabaji as Tracer specialist

worldly meteor
#

does anyone know where to find the vod of Avoided vs OTP?

karmic grotto
#

contenders yt channel

worldly meteor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAKRjTgkwQ thats the only thing i found

Welcome to the Overwatch Contenders Gauntlet - Europe and North America!

EU:
Old and Bored vs Dubai Sandstorm
New Kings vs Shu's Money Crew

NA:
Square One vs Cratos
Revival vs QARA

Gauntlet - Contenders of Europe and North America

Learn more: https://overwatchcontenders.com/en-us/
Follow Us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/owpathtopro

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but there are only 2 eu games there

karmic grotto
#

rip

worldly meteor
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sadge

edgy tinsel
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@worldly meteor they only do 2 eu and 2 na games

worldly meteor
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but there were 4 eu games yesterday

tawdry hamlet
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That was the day before yesterday

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The vid you sent

worldly meteor
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yea i meant that

edgy tinsel
tawdry hamlet
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Damn

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Rip another runaway boi

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Well that answers the question of where he's going at least

next mesa
#

this means seoul is signing toyou

tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
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probably yeah

next mesa
#

fuck titans all my homies hate titans

tawdry hamlet
#

What if dogman to London lmaoo

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The best of downgrades

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Oh shit 8am pt is like an hour away

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Hype

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Lowkey gonna be annoyed if a t2 talent gets brushed aside to make room for dogman somewhere tho lmao

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The ultimate bruh moment would be if dogman went to a chinese team lmao I would dieee

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But im assuming it's just analyst or streamer role somewhere

karmic grotto
#

👁️ 👁️ 👂
👃
👄

noble nexus
#

Dogman to shock to bench viol2t and twilight

edgy tinsel
#

@karmic grotto what happened to their other ear

karmic grotto
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Discord doesn't have a left ear

next mesa
#

🦻

plush grail
#

Nyxl coaching changes when

cobalt spoke
vagrant jacinth
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Shock with the backups for the backups

tawdry hamlet
#

Dogman must not know what pacific time is because like

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No announcement lmao

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Unless he just didn't put it on twitter lol

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Ah he just did

trail perch
#

Lmao

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Just put Hotba on it

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Or fusions

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or gator

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or hawk

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or anyone on boston exept myungbong last year

raw ermine
#

Ok so dogman announced his special thing

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He seems to be retiring not only from ow but the name dogman

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He is making a esports talkshow called 'the dusttin Bowerman show'

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Not just for ow

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So yeah

tawdry hamlet
#

Kruise is a feeder FUCKYEAH

raw ermine
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He feels dogman is a name that had a villainous stigma attached to it

tawdry hamlet
trail perch
#

i mean it did

worn falcon
#

not more Pogman

gilded dagger
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:C

cloud latch
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):

wanton birch
#

they better have dogman on the desk sometimes

edgy tinsel
#

but. ..

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i already sent

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that

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😦

hot heart
silk frost
#

Oh :(

hot heart
#

Why'd i have to wake up today

raw ermine
#

thats new...

trail perch
#

@next mesa

worn falcon
#

rip levy

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he gonna cry

trail perch
#

Rip

hidden vault
#

omg drunk on stream?

digital cloud
#

levy won't cry

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just lash out

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be realistic

next mesa
#

exactly grike thank you

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(dying inside)

digital cloud
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well, being drunk doesn't guarantee he is serious

tawdry hamlet
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he hasn't played in like 6 months right? tbh I thought he was retired

digital cloud
#

and, to be honest, given how unlucky he has been on his teams, I can see why he would want to

raw ermine
#

A drunk mind speaks a sober heart

digital cloud
#

he seems to be taking a break after the Vancouver fiasco, may their org lose all their money

worn falcon
#

he plays from time on time and do some scrimming, pugs

digital cloud
#

he does seem to still enjoy the game

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or at least playing with friends

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but perhaps the joy of pro play is gone

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who knows

next mesa
#

Perhaps

digital cloud
#

would have liked to see him and esca on a team again

silk frost
#

A beautiful dream

weak bolt
#

Don't get why these players dont join contenders teams honestly. It's almost like they expect to get owl spots from past reputation

digital cloud
#

some might

karmic grotto
#

ye

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Make contenders great again

earnest leaf
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Because contenders pays very little lol

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And they're at the point where it's their job. So sustainable income is needed

trail perch
#

Maybe Zunba and Esca and whoru and Miro and jehong make a od team

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with Gido

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and just fuck everyones shit up

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Call it lunatic hai 3

next mesa
#

Lmao

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Take pine

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And mek0

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Just fuck

weak bolt
#

Well if they're sat LFT, they're making 0 as well. At least contenders gives you something.

hot heart
#

I think if they join contenders they could prove themselves again

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They need to

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Guys like Meko or jehong need the exposure to even have a chance at playing in OWL again

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Im sure if meko went to contenders KR he could find a team

cedar oasis
#

Meko was solid this season

hot heart
#

And if he does well on that team An OWL team could pick him up

#

Solid isnt good enough anymore

cedar oasis
#

He played good on a bad team

tidal ridge
#

bruh qoq is not gonna get signed

hot heart
#

Eh

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He probably goes to Kr contenders

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Or to boston or something

hot heart
tidal ridge
#

qoq to boston

hot heart
#

His rep got a hit from playing with houstan

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That won't be fixed unless he shows incredible play again

cobalt spoke
#

Some teams are already done with the roster announcements

next mesa
#

QoQ would be huge over punk

weak bolt
#

The LAV winter ball is on YT btw. It has Sideshow in a top hat

#

Valiant Winter Ball, presented by Frontier Communications, is the NA off-season of the winter!

Join us alongside the LA Gladiators, Florida Mayhem, and Atlanta Reign for some wintertime fun. ❄️

On Day 1, teams will participate in a series of fun Arcade game modes, an exhibition match with influencers and coaches, and we'll even get started on...

▶ Play video
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Tiny OW coming up

raw ermine
#

GM Yehhhh is named dickomode on OW

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and its on stream lmao

weak bolt
#

haha yeah, Bren/Sideshow trying best not to call his name

obtuse socket
#

Contenders is currently on rein patch or before it?

tropic herald
#

should be pre rein

silk frost
#

pre rein

wintry kraken
#

Jay3 accepts contracts now 😄

gilded dagger
cloud latch
#

it's friday friday

raw ermine
#

if this is true, then its weird how many OZ gaming players are getting signed to OWL

digital cloud
#

OWL might just be desperate at this point

#

tier 2 is dead almost

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ow2 cannot come soon enough

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I can wait, but not sure the scene can much longer

trail perch
#

Why not sign WGS ms

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Or O2 blast

#

Or Runaway

#

Or BLG

#

or FFF

#

Or Literally any other team from t2

#

OZ sucked

#

Assassin and Mer1t need teams

digital cloud
#

I thought Assassin had a team

#

maybe I am thinking of Aztac

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Aztac got picked up not Assassin

edgy tinsel
#

not 18 till next sept

next mesa
#

Bruh

#

Superich not getting signed because chinese

#

This is just garb

hot heart
#

Oh thank god

#

Ffs

#

My heart

#

Jehong isnt retired

#

He took it back

#

@next mesa you can rest now

next mesa
#

One last ride baby

#

One last ride

#

😭

noble nexus
#

I'd be surprised if Jehong actually got on a team

next mesa
#

Hey hey hey

#

Shut the fuck up bitch

noble nexus
#

hey hey hey

#

I'd be fucking surprised if he accepted a lower salary

next mesa
#

I'd be surprised if he needs money

noble nexus
#

Idk if he needs it but it's always a bonus

karmic grotto
#

inb4 he goes to

#

JUSTICE

noble nexus
#

there are other league players that I doubt need money but they'd still only accept bigger contracts

hot heart
#

Who needs jehong

#

Like

#

What team needs him

next mesa
hot heart
#

Pain

#

But fr

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I cant think of a team

next mesa
#

Nyxl could for double support meta

hot heart
#

I mean

#

Maybe

next mesa
#

Flex*

#

But with signing of

hot heart
#

But is he good enough for NYXL

next mesa
#

Whatever that is

hot heart
#

They got friday

next mesa
#

Bruh I'd take him over jjonak omegalul

hot heart
#

From OZ

#

I dont think I'd take jehong over jjonak

#

Jehong is probably just meh rn

#

Or like

#

Okay

next mesa
#

Jjonak is meh rn doe

hot heart
#

He can still keep up on his heroes though

#

And just needs to adjust his play

#

The game kinda passed jehong by for better FS players

#

His level of skill was great like 2 years ago

#

Rn

#

He's mid tier at best

#

We'll see though

next mesa
#

No the whole point we had this conversation jjonak can't keep up

#

Oh well

hot heart
#

On the ana and zen

#

He can somewhat keep up

#

Not other heroes

#

He still could be good with a bit of help

plush grail
#

jhong gone?

hot heart
#

I dont think Jehong has the potential to be great anymore

hot heart
#

We thought he was but he later took it back

trail perch
#

@next mesa

plush grail
trail perch
#

Its tru tho

next mesa
#

Shut the fuck up crimzo simp

trail perch
#

look at the other anas

loud socket
#

HI

trail perch
#

At least crimzo has a team

plush grail
#

lmaooo defending crimzo and hating on jhong

next mesa
#

There's way better potential than crimzo lmao

plush grail
#

did you hit your head?

next mesa
#

God what a fucking clown

trail perch
#

I mean who has a team???

#

Who was on a team last season?

plush grail
#

rascal also doesn't have a team

next mesa
#

Way better flex supports

plush grail
#

is rascal shit now?

next mesa
#

Jehong was on a team last season

trail perch
#

Nah, rascal prob on NYXl

next mesa
#

I don't get your point

trail perch
#

He didnt find a new one

next mesa
#

How do you know

plush grail
#

crimzo is a quick budget signing, jhong is a big budget decision

next mesa
#

They are signing ivy

#

Libero also no team

trail perch
#

Bc thinking of roster reveals, NYXL is one of the few teams that havent announced DPS yet

#

Korean accepting teams

next mesa
#

They have rumors

plush grail
#

wdym, nyxl is fully western rn?

next mesa
#

No they're not

plush grail
#

jjonak the best american support player???

next mesa
#

Oh

trail perch
#

Jjonak the best player???

#

Put him on all roles

#

Clone him

next mesa
#

Dude you think "best western flex support" is like a title to be proud of

trail perch
#

Yes it is

#

Best hitscan is shockwave

#

Thats a big title

next mesa
#

Yeah exactly you're a fucking clown

plush grail
#

best western flex support is like a medal for trying

trail perch
#

best western OT is space

#

is that not a title to be proud of?

next mesa
#

It's not

#

Lmao

#

It doesn't matter what your race is

plush grail
#

space is good, i just don't get it why his contract was so fucking expensive

trail perch
#

Then ur a clown if u think that

next mesa
#

No you're just ignorant

trail perch
#

Who won world cup 2019?

#

Thats what I thought

primal minnow
#

You’re the best western flex support but probably nothing compared to the Korean flex supports

next mesa
#
  1. Crusty fucked up 2. They had corey and sinatraa
noble nexus
#

crimzo didn't win world cup

#

l0l

next mesa
#
  1. Their flex supports still garbage?
#

I don't see your point

trail perch
#

Rawkas<Crimzk

next mesa
#

Yeah and crimzos canadian?

trail perch
#

Crimzo

#

fact

next mesa
#

Western flex supports are just dog

#

Shit

#

Dogshit

trail perch
#

We'll see this year

next mesa
#

We already saw for 3 years in a row

#

They're just bad

noble nexus
#

any western flex support would get slapped around by almost any KR flex

trail perch
#

Counterpoint, Bebe

#

lol

primal minnow
#

Bebe is pretty okay

next mesa
#

What's wrong with bebe

trail perch
#

Hello? He was god average

primal minnow
#

I bet he could dunk on crimzo

next mesa
#

I'd take bebe over crimzo any fucking day of the week

#

Lmfao

noble nexus
#

100% he would

trail perch
#

and I wouldnt trust u with a roster

#

any day of the week

primal minnow
#

Okay crimzo simp

next mesa
#

Yeah you would take crimzo over a korean flex support

trail perch
#

Yeah I would

#

Because region doesnt make you better

next mesa
#

Who wants to bet aztac will be better than crimzo this season

primal minnow
#

Theirs many better flex supports

trail perch
#

He was able to stand out on a shit team

next mesa
#

Crimzo didn't stand out

plush grail
#

your salt is so entertaining

noble nexus
#

crimzo did not stand out on that team

#

lol

trail perch
#

WDYM HE DIDNT STAND OUT

primal minnow
#

I bet a lot of Korean contenders flex supports would dunk on crimzo

next mesa
#

The only person that stood out on dallas was decay

noble nexus
#

decay carried that guy on his back

primal minnow
#

Imo Doha and Decay were the only good spots on Dallas

trail perch
#

His moiras cols consistantly got 4ks

next mesa
#

Yeah and sometimes doha

trail perch
#

his zen poped

next mesa
#

No they didn't but good try

trail perch
#

his ana and baps heals where top of the league

primal minnow
#

But all the other flex supports could do that and better

trail perch
#

scratch that

#

All of his stats where top of the league

#

heals and damage

primal minnow
#

The only character he stands out on really is moira

#

And that’s moira

next mesa
#

Yeah

trail perch
#

and mechanically, his aim is pogging

next mesa
#

Remember when akshon esports made an entire video on how viol2t dunked on crimzo on moira

#

Fun to watch

trail perch
#

You know what happened after that?

#

Crimzo got good

next mesa
#

Viol2t dunked on their heads lmao that's what happened

plush grail
#

viol2t is overrated

primal minnow
#

Not really

noble nexus
#

only way you could say viol2t is overrated was because super said he was the best player in the league this season

next mesa
#

This man's just said viol2t is overrated

#

Weirdchamp

noble nexus
#

other than that

primal minnow
#

Voil2t is probably one of the best players in the league

next mesa
#

He's literally the best player on any of his heroes except ana lmao

#

Bap zen moira

plush grail
#

mark my words, viol2t is gonna be like jjonak, good for a season and after that maybe a little bit above average

noble nexus
#

yeah that's more something you can debate than a fact tbf

#

he's absolutely the best FS

#

that comment won't age well

next mesa
#

He was the best for 2 seasons though

noble nexus
#

yepp viol2t's been dunking on kids for more than just this season

next mesa
#

Will be for 3 oop-

true hound
#

no

plush grail
#

shut up

#

we are talking about ESPORTS

#

about how viol2t is gonna be WASHED

true hound
#

yeah Viol2t is TRASH

#

carcar is better

#

on god

plush grail
#

no 🧢 ???

stuck radish
#

profit is garbage

#

chipsa is better

primal minnow
#

Roar best main tank

stuck radish
#

destroyed the vancouver titans