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ball is pretty much always not bad
Chengdu will be APAC champion next year
they can get wins with any meta that way
the virgin meta vs the chad BALL 24/7
Ball always has the advatage that you know the enemy hasn't scrimmed against it
I do kind of like Boston im ngl, I really have hope for them next season
if they don't do at least mid or lower mid I will probably lose hope
but currently hope is there
I liked a few players on vancouver last season even if they were hot garbage
Boston being 18th or higher at the end of S4 is a victory for them
normally boston doesn't like anything above the number 18
Lmao
nah the korean pedo is free and he is in prison atm methinks
also wasn't either mouffin or dreamkazper lft
Tae-in "FR3E" Yoon is a South Korean player recently playing for OZ Gaming. He was briefly signed to Meta Skyfoxes, but was removed from the team after sexual misconduct allegations.
On September 10, 2020, FR3E was sentenced to one year of jail for sexual harassment against a minor.
But it will be a supp player
this dude kind of ew
funnily enough the florida manager accidentally put them on the list of people they posted and the comments then had to remind him that free is in prison
Seems to be a really good echo
ok but rascal when
Nyxl suck
literally whatever team gets him turns into an instant big name
I just wanna know who gets him 
They did the eyes thing yesterday and no announcements
A new era begins. Introducing the NYXL tank line for the 2021 season: @yakpung and @BiaNcA_ow. #EverUpward https://t.co/G2KHrjgwKg
ooh
ye yakpung and bianca
Just as I said that
pog
I wanna know who will be jjonacks support partner
they managed to clone jjonak
aimgod?
ryujehong
Are there any good flex supports left
is yakpung good?
my pc crashed randomly 
sung wu kong
My pc randomly hid my hotba
I forgot ryujehong is lft isn't he
hotba pog
Is gido still playing overwatch
no he became a pro angry birds player
Bastion in contenders go brr
bastion=pog
cancer
I wasnt jehong to become main support to stop being washed
that mayhem roster spooks me
ew no
POGBA
Hotba was second largest reason for nyxl failure besides imt

damn was hotba that bad? i haven't caught up with owl in a while no idea how he actually performed
Yeah he just didnt work well in a team envirnment
Didn't perform well
over extended
yeah, guangzhou was a good place for him
sadge hope their new tank players perform well
because shu didnt need as much help as jjonak
jjonak needs the to to basically body guard him
but when that happens they win so if i was a coach I would make it happen
yeah jjonak is a beast, what do you guys think about their new tanks? good pickups?
Bianca is good, yakpung ok
I didnt watch o2 that much so he could be a beast
Bianca was prob the best young breakout OT last season
besides hanbin
Yakpung got Kaiser benched I think
He's trying at least
what the fuck are you saying
joobi outlaws
who?
anyone else think the British hurricane are going to get promoted to the spitfire?
nearly 100% chance they will
no im pretty sure not
?

That's weird why does the schedule say that China and Korea are playing at the same time are they playing against each other
https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Overwatch_Contenders/2020/The_Gauntlet/Asia
they are playing each other
That's what i thought ok
thats old news
true but I didn't see anyone post it here
ayy
Good signing
The real story of this off season is, will the Houston Outlaws do an official announcement on Boink, or will he stay in their active roster on liquipedia for ever.
?
They already said OWL will start April time
yeah was part of Jon Spectres announcement a while back I believe
bro im getting all the announcements
ok well you guys are
but I am posting them because get rekt empathy
smh poggy
slow
nyxl who
YZNSA4 is crazy on Pharah, its ridiculous
He kept farming super on ladder one day
has this been talked about yet?
jmac coach?
and yeatle
Jmac said he was taking a temporary coaching role, but was still LFT
he's lft coaching
ah ok
This game is weird to try follow lol Kaan vs Daan, Kssar and Naga
Have to really listen properly
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Tag a friend who has been waiting for the reveal of the off season. We're looking forward to showing y'all just what we're made of!
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I was wondering why they had nothing in the tweet
I thought it might be a similar format to florida today
but I guess not
yeah
I stopped watching half way through
https://twitter.com/chengduhunters/status/1337343189565329409?s=21 em when are we gonna be able to get these blizzard ? 👀
did obey every swap to counter pharah? yeah they had dva but that wasn't enough. did they go mccree at all?
anddd
as soon as i send that I saw lethal swapped cree
guess they were just too good
So yeah obey won
K the next match is in 30 mins
does this time between matches count towards the hours to the skins because I'm still in the livestream
i rly wanna be an esports gamer for overwatch
once i get it for my switch imma grind non stop
climb ranks
and maybe get recruited
does this time between matches count towards the hours to the skins because I'm still in the livestream
You're not gonna be an esports pro on a switch. All pros play on PC's
It should, I doubt they would turn if off and on repeatedly
I upgraded from my switch to a pc
and my mom would probably be like "no"
Get a Xbox those are similar price if you wanna become more serious with over watch and can't afford a pc
lucky, how much did it cost?
Xbox wouldn't work either for going pro. It's all PC
i have an xbox one
Your best bet is getting into streaming if you wanna make money off playing OW, but thats for you to decide
PC is definitely the way to go but switch is honestly the worst thing to play over watch stick with your Xbox and save for a pc
Trust me
It depends
how much did ur pc cost?
I built my PC from scratch and it has expensive parts
that's why in can't tell you a price because it really differs
Like mine is over 1k$ and it's my own effort but I guarantee a PC with my specs would cost a lot more prebuilt
If you are gonna buy prebuilt calculate the cost of the parts combined then get the original price and minus your PC parts price
Well my PC is quite overkill
lucky
my mom doesnt even know i like gaming like that
she think i want to be a psychologist when i grow up
i want to play overwatch for a profession tho
she doesnt know that
I have i7 10th gen 32 gigs ram nvidia 3070 800 watt power supply 6 fans 2terabyte hardrive 512 ssd
I spent like a while saving up
But I'm also sinking my money into switch games
and if i tell her shell be like "that will get u no where in life" or "Gaming is a waste of time"
the esport it is a new enough state where you can't expect to make an entire future career off of it yet. So even if you make it to OWL and you good, it would be difficult to last long, whether that be the league ending, you getting outclassed, or you just not wanting to be there any more
If you do wanna pursue gaming as a profession I recommend a back up plan for a normal job
yeah
ur so lucky
Streaming and gaming as a profession is risky
i bet it so fun to play with amazing graphics
So I recommend start small and keep it a hobby maybe if your good enough maybe go to some small local tournaments and stuff and once you know you can do it and keep up dip into it a little more but always keep a backup
but im over here playing on a switch with only 32 gigabytes while u have 2terabytes like wtf
I'm not that good but it's my favorite pass time I'm a pretty mean support tho if I get serious
nice
maybe when i get it on my Xbox or if i ever get a PC
then maybe we could play a few matches?
Sure
Thinking about how EU Gauntlet had two OTP teams fight eachother
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fuck off bitch

So anyone know how the contender skins work like if i watch enough hours is it like instant or do i have to wait till the month is over im confused
In an ideal world it should be instant
But it could taks up to a day or two to get your skins
After you watch enough hours of course.
Ok
Cause i have 8 hours which I think is enough for one skin
Why is this stream going for so long but yesterday’s was only 3 hours
you get them instantly
I just finished getting all of them

yesterday was asia gauntlet
this is na eu gauntlet so it is 6 games
not 3
I just got zen and mercy today
pog
We're excited to welcome @na1st from @T1 to the Toronto Defiant family! 🙌 *Pending League Approval #RiseTogether https://t.co/F0M9ktap2o
Na1st deserves this
owo
so he's friends of alarm, and alarm is friends with KDG, so they have a connection?
Maybe
So far its been 6 and a half hours since the stream started and ive been watching all of it and im pretty sure theres another match starting at 12 am
?
@tawdry hamlet its not instant because i watched 3 hours yesterday and almost 7 hours today and haven’t gotten junk rat
do you have the green box and all that jazz
and sometimes it is fucky
just give it another stream
I played while I had it on my phone and got it without even restarting my game or anything
What do you mean green box
Today is a very good day since he’s 18 next year
Nobody answered me :(
Did you miss any of the big announcements this week?
It’s the 12th here, see what you find under the Florida mayhem in #esports-news
Mayhem Slime, OGE and flex dps Checkmate
who joobi
Sp9rk1e is on Dallas
ahh
It’s lit, but the fuel fans have suffered a bit in the identity loss now
No more western players to become attached to
Only good players with a great coach that will secure the bag next year - only time will tell if they meet expectations
You don’t follow Overwatch Collegiate scene?
It’s okay, me neither. That’s currently the US proving grounds
On paper, he’s historically very good
I know him best as a sub during FU days
And was alright on Meta Bellum
he played there after whoru left
moreso he was picked up to replace whoru because he's a more stable player, if less explosive
So they trade out explosiveness for stability
Hmm
This team is looking very dependent on their supports rn
I mean
If he's willing to go to like boston
I think he has a shot
But
Seen as jjanu or even meko are struggling rn
He's pretty fucked
I was being sarcastic he doesn't deserve a team lmao
he is t2 at best
piggy is better than him
imo
He started the season fantastc
he got 2 3k bombs, one cause the other team had to stall on point at the end of a payload map, and then the world went wild
man this roster must have been fun
he does seem like that
Custa basically pulled Valiant together.
When he was with Dallas it was a bunch of childish kids that lacked matuurity.
Hmm
What does NA rankings look like now?
With Philly gone and mayhem just announcing massive pick ups
Idek
The pickups arent that massive
eh
just for the record
In terms of the potential they have
They're incredibly massive
OGE could be incredible
Slime has shown top tier play
Checkmate for me is a wildcard
Haven't seen the guy play
But i assume he did pretty well in trials
Yeah
Hanbin over Gargoyale
mayhem is top 5 in na imo
Yeah easy
I wouldn't say mayhem is 2nd
I still think people are overrating dallas
but maybe not top 2
But i think they're top 4
No dallas easy number 2
nah
Paris 2.0 won't be that bad but won't be anything special
dallas is paris 2.0
Hmm
Dallas still has fielder
wasnt paris like 4th place in the regular season
and if jecse rekindles EM magic he pops tf off
fearless is the game changer in dallas currently
the old synergy
Yeah
no mt problems now unlike old paris
It's paris with a better MT and maybe a sidegrade or even downgrade for MS
will really help the team
Downgrade for MS
Also, I didn't watch much apac, but wasn't fearless meh on orisa?
alright was legit 4th in the regular season
Not special though
their gonna average around top 5 easily in NA
Just fine
MY point is Dallas isn't gonna be a grand finals contending team or something
they'll do what paris did, look solid in most metas, snag some big wins and do decently all around
And jecse
Rush seems to think rapel has alot of potential but OWL fucked him over
Which tbh
I would personally take glads and shock over them still
But in the end we don't know
Maybe
I would not take glads
But see the thing with dallas is that they've got explosiveness at Dps and tank
Sparkle Xzi and Doha are better than kevster space and birdring
The support line is much better than what dallas are sporting
I think space can be comparable
Nah
fielder at least equal shu
And birdring/kevster are solid
idk about space man
The dps line for glads is very good
But i mean
Against doha sp9rk1e and xzi
What chance do you have
Maybe like
Some specific metas
sparkle looked about average on most things besides genji
But they're just more talented
Xzi is a nut though
Nutty on most heros
Yall are also kinda tunnel visioning
At a high degree
as does glads
Yeah
Not really
not to the level of element mystic
I'm expecting dallas to end around 4th/5th
I think more time with rush
just watch kevster go crazy
will make dallas crazy
glads have the same track record of doing alright in the regular season and then dropping off in playoffs
My stock is all in kevster next year
Because rush>dpei
^
nah
Nah
I think they can
Shock still beats them at each role
Thats debateable
and even SHD could probably handle them
Don't sleep on nero
They still have rascal/ans/nero/glister/ta1yo
Dude's a nut
shock has depth still
Yeah
in the right meta
Maybe in a genji meta they would beat shock
Only meta i see dallas Probably be 1st in OWL is like
I think if double shield ever comes back
Genji or doom meta
Dallas could be shock
Even in double shield
Because Hanbin>choi sigma
Shock is most likely gonna be able to be above them majority of the time
And orisa cant hard cary]ry
it isnt the sig diff in double shield
The sig and the bap
yea they got viol2t on bapt saying hello
Or zen
Fielder bap
Shock just beats them out straight up on support and dps
not bad at all
when shock lost it was the genji buff that closed the gap
I think that jecse could def catch up to FDgod
Nah
Crusty coaching op
On the EM roster
He isnt coming close probably
With all of their almost Runaway levels of synergy
Idc what rush's crackpipe has got but it isn't gonna beat crusty's
Shock is coming up on 3 solid years of synergy building, granted with a few new pieces
smurf was really just one year
Idk the only one new in their starting sixth
would be fdgod
like most of the time
in my opinion
Unless we get more ash tracer nero prob got the spot
just really gotta hope it's not a double flex supp meta
And I stg if we get more ash tracer I will die
Because then you gotta toy with twilight/viol2t supp line
Im genuinely curious what dallas do in an ashe meta
Xzi sparkle
Do they just hope it isnt ashe
Xzi ash not bad
Xzi's ashe was dogshit
not rly especially early on in the season
Xzi stood out on ashe and soldier
before pulling out his widow
If you play any top or even mid tier team xzi could get beaten in the ashe duels
Anyone could get beaten in widow duels
ashe*
Ans lost to Bqb for a while
in may melee
Ans beat decay
I would say decay better than ans
Soon was the better ashe im ngl
after summer showdown he got hurt
I guess we'll see
Dallas might not have an option
But Rush smokes some real crack
Also yea, if it's double hitscan dallas is gonna have some issues
If xzi works on his ashe
And gets shit done
Sparkle tracer actually getting good
like idk if this is too far, but with rush yong and aid, maybe sparkle could hit like shax level
That would be pretty tough
but Doha prob gets the spot bc sombra is vry simmilar to tracers whole aiming style
unless he one tricked her for a long time
eh i'd say sombra and tracer are pretty different
way different playstyles/goals
he probably grinded a lot with being benched
i mean doha easily has the better sombra on the team
compared to either sparkle or xzi
Saebeyolbe got so good at sombra by playing her the way he played tracer, that was the sbb diff
he was the assassin
not the emp farmer
Rush said sp9rk1e was doing better on the traced than doha on his last q&a
Because his reaction times were so quick i think was the reasoning
But he also said both of them couldn't hit stickies for shit
Hitting pulses is rough
Ye
How good is na1st
good
He's got a strong foundation and is mentally solid and consistent
Would've worked on Seoul imo
does anyone know where to find the vod of Avoided vs OTP?
contenders yt channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAKRjTgkwQ thats the only thing i found
Welcome to the Overwatch Contenders Gauntlet - Europe and North America!
EU:
Old and Bored vs Dubai Sandstorm
New Kings vs Shu's Money Crew
NA:
Square One vs Cratos
Revival vs QARA
Gauntlet - Contenders of Europe and North America
Learn more: https://overwatchcontenders.com/en-us/
Follow Us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/owpathtopro
but there are only 2 eu games there
rip
sadge
@worldly meteor they only do 2 eu and 2 na games
but there were 4 eu games yesterday
yea i meant that
Jjanu on stream
"I think I'm done with pro, I'll still play OW as a hobby. There's a number of reasons I'm quitting pro, and I'm going to avoid saying anything that affects my former team, but basically even if I were to go to another team there isn't one I want to join," /1 https://t.co/0ERekIj9kL
Damn
Rip another runaway boi

Well that answers the question of where he's going at least
this means seoul is signing toyou
You think he found a team or just like a streamer role or something?
probably yeah
fuck titans all my homies hate titans

What if dogman to London lmaoo
The best of downgrades
Oh shit 8am pt is like an hour away
Hype

Lowkey gonna be annoyed if a t2 talent gets brushed aside to make room for dogman somewhere tho lmao
The ultimate bruh moment would be if dogman went to a chinese team lmao I would dieee
But im assuming it's just analyst or streamer role somewhere
👁️ 👁️ 👂
👃
👄
Dogman to shock to bench viol2t and twilight
@karmic grotto what happened to their other ear
Discord doesn't have a left ear
🦻
Nyxl coaching changes when
Shock with the backups for the backups
Dogman must not know what pacific time is because like
No announcement lmao
Unless he just didn't put it on twitter lol
Ah he just did
Ok now it says tweet can't be found but Google shows this

Lmao
Just put Hotba on it
Or fusions
or gator
or hawk
or anyone on boston exept myungbong last year
Ok so dogman announced his special thing
He seems to be retiring not only from ow but the name dogman
He is making a esports talkshow called 'the dusttin Bowerman show'
Not just for ow
So yeah
He feels dogman is a name that had a villainous stigma attached to it

i mean it did
not more Pogman
Jjanu on stream
"I think I'm done with pro, I'll still play OW as a hobby. There's a number of reasons I'm quitting pro, and I'm going to avoid saying anything that affects my former team, but basically even if I were to go to another team there isn't one I want to join," /1 https://t.co/0ERekIj9kL
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:C
):
they better have dogman on the desk sometimes
Jehong appears to be drunk and talking about retiring from pro on stream right now... I can’t check it myself atm but I don’t think I would be able to watch even if I could...
Oh :(
Why'd i have to wake up today
thats new...
@next mesa
Rip
omg drunk on stream?
well, being drunk doesn't guarantee he is serious
he hasn't played in like 6 months right? tbh I thought he was retired
and, to be honest, given how unlucky he has been on his teams, I can see why he would want to
A drunk mind speaks a sober heart
he seems to be taking a break after the Vancouver fiasco, may their org lose all their money
he plays from time on time and do some scrimming, pugs
he does seem to still enjoy the game
or at least playing with friends
but perhaps the joy of pro play is gone
who knows
Perhaps
would have liked to see him and esca on a team again
A beautiful dream
Don't get why these players dont join contenders teams honestly. It's almost like they expect to get owl spots from past reputation
some might
Because contenders pays very little lol
And they're at the point where it's their job. So sustainable income is needed
Maybe Zunba and Esca and whoru and Miro and jehong make a od team
with Gido
and just fuck everyones shit up
Call it lunatic hai 3
Well if they're sat LFT, they're making 0 as well. At least contenders gives you something.
I think if they join contenders they could prove themselves again
They need to
Guys like Meko or jehong need the exposure to even have a chance at playing in OWL again
Im sure if meko went to contenders KR he could find a team
Meko was solid this season
And if he does well on that team An OWL team could pick him up
Solid isnt good enough anymore
He played good on a bad team
bruh qoq is not gonna get signed
Doesn't matter really
qoq to boston
His rep got a hit from playing with houstan
That won't be fixed unless he shows incredible play again
Some teams are already done with the roster announcements
QoQ would be huge over punk
The LAV winter ball is on YT btw. It has Sideshow in a top hat
Valiant Winter Ball, presented by Frontier Communications, is the NA off-season of the winter!
Join us alongside the LA Gladiators, Florida Mayhem, and Atlanta Reign for some wintertime fun. ❄️
On Day 1, teams will participate in a series of fun Arcade game modes, an exhibition match with influencers and coaches, and we'll even get started on...
Tiny OW coming up
haha yeah, Bren/Sideshow trying best not to call his name
Contenders is currently on rein patch or before it?
should be pre rein
pre rein
Jay3 accepts contracts now 😄
Sources: The NYXL are expected to sign OZ Gaming Main Support “Friday”
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it's friday friday
if this is true, then its weird how many OZ gaming players are getting signed to OWL
OWL might just be desperate at this point
tier 2 is dead almost
ow2 cannot come soon enough
I can wait, but not sure the scene can much longer
Why not sign WGS ms
Or O2 blast
Or Runaway
Or BLG
or FFF
Or Literally any other team from t2
OZ sucked
Assassin and Mer1t need teams
Thank you for this, I hope Jehong is able to find a team for one last ride https://t.co/o5yDPw9L9p
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Oh thank god
Ffs
My heart
Jehong isnt retired
He took it back
@next mesa you can rest now
I'd be surprised if Jehong actually got on a team
I'd be surprised if he needs money
Idk if he needs it but it's always a bonus
there are other league players that I doubt need money but they'd still only accept bigger contracts
My heart does
Nyxl could for double support meta
But is he good enough for NYXL
Whatever that is
They got friday
Bruh I'd take him over jjonak omegalul
From OZ
I dont think I'd take jehong over jjonak
Jehong is probably just meh rn
Or like
Okay
Jjonak is meh rn doe
He can still keep up on his heroes though
And just needs to adjust his play
The game kinda passed jehong by for better FS players
His level of skill was great like 2 years ago
Rn
He's mid tier at best
We'll see though
On the ana and zen
He can somewhat keep up
Not other heroes
He still could be good with a bit of help
jhong gone?
I dont think Jehong has the potential to be great anymore
Say it louder for the people in the back
@next mesa
shut up\
Its tru tho
Shut the fuck up crimzo simp
look at the other anas
HI
At least crimzo has a team
lmaooo defending crimzo and hating on jhong
There's way better potential than crimzo lmao
did you hit your head?
God what a fucking clown
rascal also doesn't have a team
Way better flex supports
is rascal shit now?
Jehong was on a team last season
Nah, rascal prob on NYXl
I don't get your point
He didnt find a new one
How do you know
crimzo is a quick budget signing, jhong is a big budget decision
Bc thinking of roster reveals, NYXL is one of the few teams that havent announced DPS yet
Korean accepting teams
They have rumors
wdym, nyxl is fully western rn?
No they're not
jjonak the best american support player???
Oh
Dude you think "best western flex support" is like a title to be proud of
Yeah exactly you're a fucking clown
best western flex support is like a medal for trying
space is good, i just don't get it why his contract was so fucking expensive
Then ur a clown if u think that
No you're just ignorant
You’re the best western flex support but probably nothing compared to the Korean flex supports
- Crusty fucked up 2. They had corey and sinatraa
Rawkas<Crimzk
Yeah and crimzos canadian?
We'll see this year
any western flex support would get slapped around by almost any KR flex
Bebe is pretty okay
What's wrong with bebe
Hello? He was god average
I bet he could dunk on crimzo
100% he would
Okay crimzo simp
Yeah you would take crimzo over a korean flex support
Who wants to bet aztac will be better than crimzo this season
Theirs many better flex supports
He was able to stand out on a shit team
Exactly thank you
Crimzo didn't stand out
your salt is so entertaining
WDYM HE DIDNT STAND OUT
I bet a lot of Korean contenders flex supports would dunk on crimzo
The only person that stood out on dallas was decay
decay carried that guy on his back
Imo Doha and Decay were the only good spots on Dallas
His moiras cols consistantly got 4ks
Yeah and sometimes doha
his zen poped
No they didn't but good try
his ana and baps heals where top of the league
But all the other flex supports could do that and better
Yeah
and mechanically, his aim is pogging
Remember when akshon esports made an entire video on how viol2t dunked on crimzo on moira
Fun to watch
Viol2t dunked on their heads lmao that's what happened
viol2t is overrated
Not really
only way you could say viol2t is overrated was because super said he was the best player in the league this season
other than that
Voil2t is probably one of the best players in the league
mark my words, viol2t is gonna be like jjonak, good for a season and after that maybe a little bit above average
yeah that's more something you can debate than a fact tbf
he's absolutely the best FS
that comment won't age well
He was the best for 2 seasons though
yepp viol2t's been dunking on kids for more than just this season
Will be for 3 oop-
no
no 🧢 ???
Roar best main tank
destroyed the vancouver titans


