esports-discussion

[plush grail]

wont have to worry about him cause he'll never join a team again

[next mesa]

ryujehong not being in owl is same reason as me

yeah

[inland flare]

Y'all see leak mafia tweet

[next mesa]

he's just too humble

also

https://twitter.com/proxywolf/status/1331654013742325763

Wolf Schröder (@proxywolf)

Lastly, for Overwatch fans-- OGN built an Overwatch tournament that stood for the massive esports culture OW had amassed in one year's time, and built incredible finals hype videos that made fans care about the stakes. APEX told a story. One we remember years later. https://t.co/CSHfJ3B8Rt

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

look at this shit

godly

[earnest leaf]

I would perma bench smurf and super

[gilded dagger]

twilight alarm funny astro leejaegon tobi moth shu u aint better than them

[plush grail]

i would bench jake

[inland flare]

I'm better than smurf imp

[next mesa]

I eat those kids for breakfast honey

[gilded dagger]

nah bruv

[plush grail]

ameng is in your backline, what do you do

[gilded dagger]

slime too

no ide

a

[sullen berry]

ohh icymi, just because they are on a valorant stream, Wolf did great in the KR finals and Achilios on the Analyst room was alright

[plush grail]

pog halo just leaked levy to boston

[next mesa]

@plush grail I fuck him up

[gilded dagger]

huh?

[next mesa]

first I sleep him

[mortal abyss]

he WHAT

[next mesa]

then I one shot him

since im the one playing ana

my gun does 2000% per damage

because im just better

@plush grail nah I just wanna say that rumor is false

since myunb0ng is a close friend of mine and I dont want him to get permabenched

😔

[mortal abyss]

omg i read that wrong

i read levy as ivy and got so confused

[hot heart]

There was a fake rumour from a fake halo account on twitter that said libero was going to boston for 1mil

Lmao

[next mesa]

inb4 libero goes to boston for real

[plush grail]

honestly

boston has only signed super small players

this will be their first big pickup in a while right

[next mesa]

well I guess im37 and stand1

is like

kinda big

[plush grail]

if every current boston player gave up 1 kidney

they could afford the 1 million libero contract

[next mesa]

WINNABLE

[plush grail]

ok mr jhong

calm down

[sullen berry]

did someone say

Jehong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMOIb2-cC_I

hard to adjust to mano wearing philly orange

[plush grail]

the chad main tank with a team vs the virgin flex support without a team

[next mesa]

jehong

the goat

[sullen berry]

or the chad broadcaster

vs the virgin newbie

[next mesa]

mano aint that much of a newbie but yes

everyone is a newbie

[sullen berry]

new on the philly

I wasn't even referring to skill level there

[plush grail]

mano sucks

i could bench him

[next mesa]

YEAH YEAH I KNEW

oops caps

yeah ik what u meant

[plush grail]

stop screaming

[karmic grotto]

YOU STOP SCREAMING

[plush grail]

WINNABLE WINNABLE

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean shanghais ex main tank is a good pickup if only to support their god awful tank line

Fusions needs to go back to contenders man

Him and beast both

I know beast is on Toronto but like both are tanks who really don't deserve their spot in the league

Considering all the t2 cheap talent

I mean I assume beast will just be benched for Michelle all season anyway

[raw ermine]

He'll be benched for sado

[tawdry hamlet]

[raw ermine]

cause sado is a nut

[tawdry hamlet]

Sado and Heesu were fat ass pickups for toronto

[earnest leaf]

Toronto might not be shit next year

[tawdry hamlet]

Heesu kind of a nut on a lot of heroes upper mid or top

[earnest leaf]

and heesu showed off a solid widow in the finals

[tawdry hamlet]

Not tip top but like up there

Heesu tracer is pog

[worn falcon]

Poor Outlaws

[tawdry hamlet]

Philly looking a lot weaker next season

[worn falcon]

same spot as this year

[tawdry hamlet]

Outluls should of copped ivy!

Wait no they got happy right?

[earnest leaf]

Philly still looks solid

mano is good and poko is still solid

they still have alarm/astro

and now shockwave

[tawdry hamlet]

Yee and carpe and alarm and such but Heesu ivy was better than shockwave ngl

[worn falcon]

they let sado too

would be nuts seeing Sado/Mano

[tawdry hamlet]

And Fury

[worn falcon]

Mano/Fury

they let go some of their best assets

[tawdry hamlet]

Their tank line and dps line both took some big hits

[worn falcon]

Heesu, Ivy, Fury, Sado.

[tawdry hamlet]

Im sure they'll be alright but not nearly as good

[worn falcon]

and Chipsa

100 WR

[tawdry hamlet]

Didn't he play like one game total lmao

And then fell off the map

[worn falcon]

yes

[tawdry hamlet]

God gamer

[worn falcon]

superior OWL player

[tawdry hamlet]

Wish covid didn't eat profits so hard that all the monke and doom one tricks got dumped

Missing chipsa

Missing pokpo

Sadge

Did it ever get confirmed if outluls got ksf

Because happy danteh ksf isn't a bad dps line, their support line looks kind of dog shit though

And im pretty sure Boink is leaving

[hot heart]

If slime sign tobi

They have an average support line

*Houston

Lmao

Was thinking about slime

[hot heart]

https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1336022727598039041?s=19

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

It's all coming together now...

Ready to #MeetTheMayhem?

Twitter · Dec 7, 2020, 7:00 PM

Ayo?

[tidal ridge]

No

[hot heart]

Yes

[tawdry hamlet]

Fuck florida for this actually

Hey guys we hate our fans so we are going to hint at roster updates for weeks without telling anything even though we claim to have won the off-season months ago

Ok

[silk frost]

yeah a bit frustrating

but damn this'll be good

[tawdry hamlet]

If all their signings were cheap nobodies Im going to crine

I hope they pick up someone like slime

Just a vet in general

[tidal ridge]

this image is so weird

two-way captain

[tawdry hamlet]

You know it

[worn falcon]

Paris roster when

[tawdry hamlet]

The king of mid tier my man yveltal

[tidal ridge]

paris emails are probably bronze players asking to join

[tawdry hamlet]

Paris announcing the end of their franchise when

😩 london and paris going to suck some fat ass next season

And im here for it

[tidal ridge]

when philly signed shockwave it was all over for london's dream EU roster

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean they could be good, like when a goat contenders team is picked up and becomes a powerhouse like titans or it could be flop like titans

[next mesa]

if london just signed british hurricane, I think they can beat titans, but other than that?

[tawdry hamlet]

The duality of vancouver

[tidal ridge]

distance between contendies and the league

[tawdry hamlet]

They really needed a big name to mesh with the hurricane because I think against apac contenders teams they'd probably not fair very well tbh, europe contenders had far lower competition hence their dominance

Not to say they aren't good

But like

Meh

[cedar oasis]

They would beat Boston

[tawdry hamlet]

Hmm idk maybe boston last season with the abysmal tank line a flex on hitscan and that kind of dog shit support duo

[cedar oasis]

What

[tawdry hamlet]

But new boston it'd be competitive

[cedar oasis]

Myunbong

Dog shit

[tawdry hamlet]

No I mean the other one

Halo

Myun is god

[tidal ridge]

i wonder if london even tried to sign shockwave

[cedar oasis]

Cockwave

[tawdry hamlet]

[next mesa]

shockwave is a good replacement for heesu

[flint turret]

hey guys anyone german ? dm me (PC)

[cedar oasis]

Cumlocked

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah, maybe with coaching shockwave can be better than Heesu

[tidal ridge]

idk how to feel about toronto

[tawdry hamlet]

Nyxl announcements when ???? I wanna know what free agents they threw together

[next mesa]

toronto needs to ditch logix bro

[trail perch]

watch them just resign s1 squad

[next mesa]

sign ace or some shit

[cedar oasis]

Nyxl should be atleast mid tier

Yakpung bienca

[trail perch]

even the ones who have already been signed to other teams

[next mesa]

Mer1t would prob be better than logix

[trail perch]

def

[next mesa]

bqb is still free agent?

ayt idk about mayhem dropping bqb doe

like who's better than bqb

diem was, he went back to dragons

[tawdry hamlet]

Vancouver just looks so gross rn, Dalton and Linkzr like bro you're literally just signing the most mediocre low tier players

[trail perch]

Linkzr isn’t that bad

[tawdry hamlet]

Linkzr at least is a side grade from shockwave I guess

[trail perch]

At least they don’t have chex

[tawdry hamlet]

[trail perch]

I think that they need a real flex

Wait did they sign one?

wait nvm they didn’t

[tawdry hamlet]

I hope somebody picks up some of the dumped paris or dallas players pls

Like nico pls

[trail perch]

Unless they plan on having linkzr genji all season

[tawdry hamlet]

[trail perch]

Nah nico isn’t that good

Soon needs to be signed

Benbest

[next mesa]

NICO IS REALLY GOOD

oops

[trail perch]

Ehhh

[next mesa]

caps

nico's mei was 900iq

his echo was above average

[trail perch]

He’s solid mid tier

[tawdry hamlet]

He a lefty tho

Weird af

[trail perch]

Yeah but Benbest was a top 10 mt easy

[hot heart]

Ye

[trail perch]

And soon was able to retrigger his s1 self

[tawdry hamlet]

Onigod needs a team man new kings is such a downgrade from owl it hurts

[hot heart]

Onigod should go to paris or london

[cedar oasis]

Onigod is low tier

[trail perch]

No way

[tawdry hamlet]

Really think london could sign an ex paris player and it'd help a lot

[trail perch]

Onigod was a high mid tier hitscan

He was suuuper consistent

[tawdry hamlet]

What if paris just goes for it and signs a full korean roster from contenders

That'd be strange

[trail perch]

Which team?

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk just any of them lol

[trail perch]

Like 02

[tawdry hamlet]

Like what titans did but not na team

[trail perch]

Ohhh that would be fun

Take assassin and mer1t

Ummm

Kaiser

Uuuuummmm I don’t know many kr contenders players

[tawdry hamlet]

Shitter bowl next season will be so much fun to watch, vancouver vs boston will be fun to watch

[trail perch]

Fun matches to watch

Wait will Dallas be a apac team

Bc they said they wanted to balance the regions

[tawdry hamlet]

Im assuming homestands are back by then since I don't think they plan to do online thing again

[trail perch]

Oh ok

[next mesa]

no

dallas will be

na

rush said

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh I think even new boston will beat vancouver

[trail perch]

But wb NY

[tawdry hamlet]

Vancouver just looks so depressing now

[trail perch]

XL

[tawdry hamlet]

Their old roster at least had hope 😫

It had ksaa and pogwave

Now they just got like Linkzr

[next mesa]

that was an exception

homesick covid

[tawdry hamlet]

Ksaa if he wasn't stuck in the middle east could have played so much better

The ping for so many teams went brrr

Is sad

Neptuno got fucked by travel shit as well

Idek if neptuno was that good tbh

[cedar oasis]

Fielder did good with bad ping

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder what atlanta plans to do

[next mesa]

ksaa was good

[tawdry hamlet]

So many good players were spread out this off season so the we have a solid roster but aren't shock teams are going to be fun to watch

Battle for top 4 will be fun, with dallas glads and justice and philly and maybe even toronto all looking like they have a shot at it

[trail perch]

We dont know if like london or new york will be in NA

[tawdry hamlet]

Wonder where all these moves leave last years upper mid teams like valiant

[trail perch]

Bc it would be funny if Shock was APAX

APAC

[cedar oasis]

Is slime still with the dynasty

[next mesa]

no

[earnest leaf]

Imagine a MT who could play winston/orisa better than smurf, better rein than super, and a better ball then ameng

[raw ermine]

Frankly, Sado is the closest we have

[hot heart]

Ye

Then mano

I think

[mortal abyss]

I think fate then mano imo

[hot heart]

Nah

But

I think next year fate could be top tier

He looked amazing in the shanghai masters

So i expect even better performances

[tidal ridge]

imagine a MT who had the best rein and genji in the world

wait a minute

[cedar oasis]

Slime jjonack maybey

[raw ermine]

Halo got signed to a collegiate team

[hot heart]

Ye

Just saw

Good luck to him ig

[formal crystal]

https://twitter.com/Outlaws/status/1336053015581745154?s=20

Houston Outlaws (@Outlaws)

From the west side to the dirty south.
We're happy to announce that @KSF will be with us for the 2021 season! #AnteUp

*Pending League Approval

Twitter · Dec 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

yay

I can post one

[karmic grotto]

k

[next mesa]

yebaited @tawdry hamlet

[tawdry hamlet]

I was in a game smh

crying

[next mesa]

Empathy destroying hopes and dreams

[tawdry hamlet]

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/avalla_ow/status/1335970676683882496?s=19

AVALLA 아바라 (@avalla_ow)

LET'S GO 😍

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Twitter · Dec 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

[worn falcon]

it's a empty folder too

GG paris no team

[tawdry hamlet]

[next mesa]

she said that

it's not empty

but the screenshot is

for some reason

[tawdry hamlet]

idk why images load perfectly on embeds in the discord in game overlay but they don't load at all in regular discord for me and I just get the poop symbol

discord be wacky

[gloomy vector]

man so many ppl left Houston this year its wild

[raw ermine]

The paris eternal twitter account replied to the tweet with a bunch of thinking emojis. But if you think about it, it's likely Avalla replying to herself cause she's the only management paris have 😢 😢 😢 😢

[tidal ridge]

paris is gone

[gloomy vector]

NYXL team tho looking fire

[tidal ridge]

NYXL vs vancouver titans

NYXL still wins

[gloomy vector]

man so many changes next year wild

[edgy tinsel]

ah yes

theyre whole 1 player

jjonak 1v6?

[gloomy vector]

oh i didnt realize the huge changes to philly

[digital cloud]

ah houston, now we have a crap ton of dps, but no support line

and a mt that I have no faith in, but maybe it'll be fine

[next mesa]

lmao u have crimzo and no ms

second worse support line after titans probably

[digital cloud]

we have boink though

so automatically top 1

[tawdry hamlet]

Boink is reported to have left already just not announced

[digital cloud]

yeah, I know that, it was a joke, boink was probably worse than carcar

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk carcar was a rpetty low bar

Lmao

[karmic grotto]

Even worse than Redshell

[digital cloud]

no one is worse than redshell

take that back you savage

[next mesa]

who's worse, roolf + fire or crimzo + boink

well lets just hope houston signs good ms

[digital cloud]

got to say crimzo plus boink

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh probably Boink Crimzo

I think roolf is just barely good enough to edge out over them

[gloomy vector]

you do gotta wonder whos gonna be the other Support

[tawdry hamlet]

And fire idk I didn't see him play much

[karmic grotto]

I think I can do better

[digital cloud]

maybe slime or tobi

I don't think that would be too crazy

[next mesa]

tobi

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder who valiant are going to acquire

[next mesa]

lmao no way tobi is going to a mixed roster

[digital cloud]

forgot about that

maybe slime then

[karmic grotto]

Tobi Wan Kenobi

[gloomy vector]

like next year ill be honest i dont even know who is top 5 other than Paris and NYXL

[karmic grotto]

Mayhem

[digital cloud]

paris or nyxl top five?

what are you smoking

[next mesa]

lmao

[gloomy vector]

NYXL only has 1 player and paris has none

[digital cloud]

oh, you were joking

[gloomy vector]

florida has 2

[next mesa]

my top 5 right now probably shock seoul dragons charge glads

[gloomy vector]

honestly glads looks good rn

[digital cloud]

glads made some good moves, but I don't know

[gloomy vector]

also fuel doesnt look bad

[next mesa]

oh fuck

fuel

yeah i'd take fuel over glads

[digital cloud]

fuel is gonna crash and burn again

[next mesa]

no

[gloomy vector]

yeah fuel is insane

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk I wouldn't even put seoul in top 5 unless their season goes how the playoffs went

[digital cloud]

fuel cycle of misery

[next mesa]

Season itself doesn't matter if u just get second place in playoffs

[cloud latch]

did charge do well in shanghai masters?

[gloomy vector]

also shockwave on philly weird

[next mesa]

yes

charge went to 5 maps with shanghai

and then spark got swept by shanghai

so rn I would say spark and hunters are def still a tier below shanghai and charge

[gloomy vector]

titans might be the worst team next year it doesnt look like a good roster

pretty much every team has a weird team like justice is weird

[next mesa]

for sure

if justice gets rascal or libero it would be pretty huge

ttuba is like too inflexible

although he did good in the playoffs

[tawdry hamlet]

Justice look pretty alright I mean fury and decay on the same team

[next mesa]

and I dont think mag will flop

he has too much experience

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk about glads they had the same lineup minus support, do you guys really think that moth and shu will make a difference big enough to shoot them from mid to top?

[next mesa]

muze

no I wouldn't

that's why

I think their dps is lacking

but if kevster can like

reach his potential

and birdring be consistent

then like

maybe

I dont think its championship contending though

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder about dallas, I wonder if they will be like upper mid as they figure it out or if they will just come out like dragons last year

[gloomy vector]

im just saying all the teams are weird also if they keep the same format as this year then glads have a good chance

[next mesa]

I think the new heroes will really fuck up some powerankings

but shock will still be first probably

[gloomy vector]

idk about that but maybe

i mean the shock part

[gilded dagger]

Ksf to Houston?

Ksf

[gloomy vector]

yeah tons of changes next year

its gonna be wild

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk im just not sold on dallas being a power team yet, support line looks weak and paris wasn't super great last year. But I imagine fearless can get it together plus they have all the synergy

[next mesa]

fielder on good ping and jecse?

jecse was probably tje best player on houston last year

[gloomy vector]

yeah fielder was good and jecse can be good

[tawdry hamlet]

Ah yeah fielder, I was thinking of rapel

[next mesa]

I feel like we're gonna see rapel unleashed

[gloomy vector]

well its prob gonna be fielder and rapel/jecse

[tawdry hamlet]

I imagine as long as they can heal fearless monke they will do epic

How does Xzi stack up vs the other top hitscans like ans and diem and carpe, I know he is up there but like is he matching or slightly below?

[weak bolt]

His mcree is as good, I'd say his Ashe/Widow aren't as good. But with most things, it's opinion based

[next mesa]

xzi stacks up on widow and mccree

nah his widow is 👌 but his ashe is like

really really

errrr

[tawdry hamlet]

Pepega

[next mesa]

it was worse than soon

so

soon was good

[tawdry hamlet]

Soon is a great all around player and personality I hope he finds some sort of spot in there like analyst or streamer or some shit for some team

I believe he has another season

[next mesa]

if he could like

go to london

it would be pretty great

[tawdry hamlet]

He played tracer all season then boom just whips out second best na widow like ok

[gloomy vector]

also meta will change next year so thats another reason why titans will actually be bottom

i cant see how they will even be better than anyone else

[weak bolt]

Honestly until we get close to season and get an idea on meta, rating teams is near impossible

a ball meta would truly fuck up rankings

[next mesa]

widow 1v1s dont say that much though

[gloomy vector]

but still titans look so bad rn

[tawdry hamlet]

That is true but he was destroying ksp I think

[next mesa]

it says something but cmon soon being better than ksp

its like

hmmmmmm

on widow a tleast

[tawdry hamlet]

Did stand1 play a lot last season or mostly just finals?

[next mesa]

he actually played like

a decent amount

[weak bolt]

think he played a bit of Orisa at one stage

[next mesa]

in orisa

[tawdry hamlet]

I didn't watch a ton of double shield stuff pre genji meta

[next mesa]

may melee like

they played stand1

and then when they were down 3-0

they subbed in fearless and he was just like "i gotchu"

[tawdry hamlet]

I just remember fearless void Everytime I watched dragons and then they just huck him in the starting lineup for finals and im like oh this guy cool

[gloomy vector]

also rn the Atlantic Conference looks so easy even tho 4 teams are missing

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean he didn't look that bad in finals so I imagine he will really help boston since their tank line weak af

Probably better than titans now

Since myun im37 stand1 are all actually good players lmao

[weak bolt]

Stand1 is still a decent player honestly, he could start on a few teams

It also means Fusions never has to play Orisa again, which is always a win

[gloomy vector]

how good is im37 because if hes meh then boston is gonna be tied with titans prob

[weak bolt]

I'd say he's like Jerry. Has the odd moment but is average at best

[edgy tinsel]

i mean he never really got a chance to prove himself imo

[gloomy vector]

yeah then titans and boston might be tied next year

[edgy tinsel]

he came straight into goats

[silk frost]

Do NOT sleep on Boston next year

Good head coach, myungbong, stand1, im37, effort

Should be good

[tawdry hamlet]

If not good at least better than whatever shit titans threw together

[cobalt spoke]

Titans signed dinkzr

[karmic grotto]

Prove it mamba

🐍

[tawdry hamlet]

Any other teams that are just hands down shittier than the rest atm other than houston but even houston look better than titans and likely boston on dps diff alone

Since danteh happy way too good for chex and im37 I think

Happy is really the only thing besides danteh making outlaws look strong af

Otherwise they probably going to be bottom again

Atlanta might be down there

But not as far down

[next mesa]

outlaws got a brand new talon tankline wym

that's actually like

wait

yeah

a pretty good upgrade over HYDRATION and mek0 lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

That's actually true, but houston track record making me question. Hmm, atlanta don't look great but pelican and edison are pretty good, idk their tank line kind of mid

So many teams that have good rosters I genuinely don't know who the bottom will be

[next mesa]

honestly dude

[tawdry hamlet]

Other than titans and boston

[next mesa]

what even happened to gator and hawk

they just look so

doodoo

u feel me dawg

[tawdry hamlet]

All the other shitter teams are like stacked lowkey now so I have no idea who will be new shitter

I mean paris and London I guess are given

Unless avalla pulls out a fat roster

But I doubt it

[next mesa]

if avalla gets all that juicy t2 talent

that are unsigned

mer1t diya superich

[tawdry hamlet]

Diya 😩

[next mesa]

like

ace

assassin

any tanks

dude

like benbest

revenge

woohyal

valentine

gaebullsi getting signed right

toyou

okay ill stop

the point is look at all this juicy talent

when theres franchise league u got shit like chex being in the league but diya is not

[cobalt spoke]

So the sf cock is predicted best

Im guessing titans are predicted worse

[tawdry hamlet]

Titans are worst since their only good thing at all is dalton who's low tier flex and Linkzr who's mid to upper mid

Meanwhile boston at least has a decent tank, and a decent support and something new

Frd and fire are not it chief

[silk frost]

me just waiting for Mayhem to sign Diya

[tawdry hamlet]

Aren't mayhem all korean

[silk frost]

yes

but

diya

[tawdry hamlet]

[weak bolt]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1336071411740385281

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

According to sources, both JJANU and Mek0 are struggling to find teams for 2021.

With the depth of talent at the Off-Tank position and most teams being comfortable with their selections, there is a chance neither will be in the league next season.

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Twitter · Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

[next mesa]

What the fuck

Mek0, okay

Jjanu???????

Honestly

Does this mean seoul found a better ot than jjanu?

[raw ermine]

damn

how is michelle better than both?

[weak bolt]

I wonder if they both tried to get too much $$$ and it's left them without teams

[raw ermine]

yeah

probably what happened with toronto and michelle

they probably settled for a decent option that was cheaper upfront

but if they waited, they could have gotten these players for a better price

[weak bolt]

Gives teams an option mid season if their OT is bad though

[tawdry hamlet]

Since florida held out so long and they said they won the off season

I honestly think

They have rascal

But then again, halo couldn't just be making shit up so he could somewhere else

I just wanna know so bad

[edgy tinsel]

who need OTs

does philly still need an OT?

[tawdry hamlet]

They have poko

[edgy tinsel]

or they sticking with poko?

[tawdry hamlet]

Afaik poko is resigned

[edgy tinsel]

yeah he is

i thought they would've got a replacement for fury

it was rumoured to me meko

i really dont rate philly nearly as high tbh

Carpe Shockwave Eqo is a downgrade imo

Mano Poko is a downgrade

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah

Ivy Heesu better for sure but expensive especially since fury was really valuable but at least they got alarm still

[edgy tinsel]

did both ivy and heesu get new teams

or just heesu

[tawdry hamlet]

Ivy is rumored to be nyxl maybe but he's still free agent officially

[edgy tinsel]

i rly wanted shockwave to ldn tbh

[tawdry hamlet]

Idn?

[edgy tinsel]

london

[tawdry hamlet]

Ah lol I read i instead of l lol

[edgy tinsel]

ahh

[tawdry hamlet]

But yeah he would've been a good pickup, I think they'd benefit from soon

[edgy tinsel]

i wanted ksf or shockwave n they got neither :(

[tawdry hamlet]

😫

Nero and shockwave to Houston could've been biggg

[edgy tinsel]

ngl wouldn't be suprised if London got bh + obey

wait

onigod

to london

or did he get a team

[tawdry hamlet]

That'd be sick but he's on new kings with ellivote and lullish

Kind of bad team tbh

[edgy tinsel]

they have jofi too

i want him back

idk how i feel about kellex in owl again tbh

if they get bh

[drowsy holly]

what’s your thoughts on washington justice?

[tawdry hamlet]

They look solid

[drowsy holly]

i’m not sure about them

[edgy tinsel]

if their supports can benefit from the rest of the team

then v good

[tawdry hamlet]

Fury Decay Combo

[edgy tinsel]

Fury Mag

[drowsy holly]

i know i was really excited about mag and decay

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder if stitch found a team, probably not with ivy and other talent out there

[drowsy holly]

but closer and bebe don’t inspire me

[edgy tinsel]

closer has what it takes

he has won owl before

[drowsy holly]

true

[next mesa]

Give them a chance first

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean closer yeah, bebe just kind of there

[drowsy holly]

it just seems a bit underwhelming

[tawdry hamlet]

Forgot houston copped piggy, that's yet another stacked shitter

[drowsy holly]

but i could definitely be wrong

[tawdry hamlet]

Vancouver is literally the only roster that just looks bad atm lmao

I mean paris excluded of course

[drowsy holly]

i’m not sure about boston

[tawdry hamlet]

I just can't believe how little vancouver spent on players man

Literally like they trying to lose

[drowsy holly]

if you can’t build a winning roster may as well go cheap

[edgy tinsel]

i mean

[tawdry hamlet]

I guess but going that cheap is like

[edgy tinsel]

luminosity fund them

and they're shit org

[tawdry hamlet]

There's cheaper better t2 players than fuckin fire and frd lmao

[drowsy holly]

i think fire and frd were quite good pickups

better than car car and maybe ksa

although i feel bad for him

[edgy tinsel]

anyone is better than carcar

[drowsy holly]

couldn’t agree more

fed so hard

[balmy wolf]

considering contenders players still have buyouts fire and frd may have been ever cheaper actually

if titans were just going full budget

[tawdry hamlet]

If they went full budget why would they get Linkzr

Just go get a nobody

[earnest leaf]

Marketing

[tawdry hamlet]

True

[earnest leaf]

Cheap veteran

[next mesa]

Did you think Linkzr had anywhere else

Yeah he was cheap man

[edgy tinsel]

he could've got soit

spitfire

but i think they're going completely eu

[next mesa]

Yeah i guess

[next mesa]

imagine 2019 mvp candidate cant find a team

that's just wtf

[gloomy vector]

i feel like next year will actually be competitive like the mid tier teams might be closer to the top tier teams

[digital cloud]

I am pretty much thinking shock three peat

[next mesa]

yeah

unless some of the new heroes fucks them up

favourites

[gloomy vector]

also fuel looks promising this year but who know how they will play

[cobalt spoke]

As good as shock?

[next mesa]

Yubo stop getting insecure

[cobalt spoke]

I'm not insecure

Actually

I'm extremely confident in my teams abilities

And yes I do mean my team

I own the org

[digital cloud]

rich boy\

[next mesa]

Insecure ass

[cobalt spoke]

Stop projecting levy

[trail perch]

Lmao the shock’s off season is legit a net loss

Rascal>Nero

[true hound]

inb4 levy drops a “hey shut the fuck up bitch”

[trail perch]

Give it a few seconds

[next mesa]

Hey zalty shut the fuck up bitch

[trail perch]

Lol

[true hound]

😭

[next mesa]

Okay rascal is better than nero yeah but

Then they got glister as well

Not a bad off season for sure

[trail perch]

But I don’t see thepoint in having striker ans and glistee

Glister

And taiyo

Like you can only play 2

And on everything but brig moth>FDGod

So like the shock is looking like spent a shit ton of money on worse coaches and players they didn’t need

[digital cloud]

they can only hire so many gods

[trail perch]

Like who would pick casores over junkbuck

[next mesa]

New heroes

[trail perch]

Then why would they drop rascal

[next mesa]

New heroes are coming out

[trail perch]

He picked up most new hero’s sooooo fast

Echo

[next mesa]

Rascal most likely wanted to leave tbh

[trail perch]

Bap

Fair but like they didn’t need 4 hitscans

And that’s a fact

[next mesa]

Honestly glister could transition in projectile

[trail perch]

But if you look at Dallas... (muah gesture)

[next mesa]

He said so himself that he preferred projectile

[trail perch]

Tru, but now 3 hitscan and 2 projectile

When you can only play 2 players at once

[next mesa]

Bruh

Shock had 4 dps in s2

They have 5 now, with a lot of heroes coming in

We all know crusty utilizes players the best

It's all good man

[trail perch]

But back in s2 it was goats and 2 of them didn’t play

[next mesa]

Org is rich too? So who gives a fuck

[trail perch]

That is true

But I think the new dps are downgrades from architect, Sinatraa, and rascal

[next mesa]

Yeah but architect played in like stage 3 with hanzo

And like gf

So like crusty is god trust crusty end of discussion bro

[trail perch]

I trust crusty, but I think you put a little too much faith in him, he is def the best coach, but A tier is catching up

Moon and Rush might give him a run for his money next season

Especially now that they both have their almost dream roaster

Rosters

[next mesa]

Eh

[trail perch]

I trust Rush

[next mesa]

Dallas tanklinr lacks flexibility

If the meta suits them definitely

[trail perch]

Maybe for ball metas

But fearless hanbin covers most things

[next mesa]

Orisa metas fearless is gonna be worse than smurf

Yeah and ball

[trail perch]

Yeah fs

But his orisa isn’t bad by any means

[next mesa]

On rein fearless is good doe

[trail perch]

And they could just run the og hackfist and win

Easy

[silk frost]

yeah dallas should just pick up ameng

ez

[tidal ridge]

element dallas

[cobalt spoke]

Shock is just a good team with the best org

If you had the chance to go to shock it doesnt matter how many players are already there or how much money other teams are paying to an extent, you go to shock because shock ain't cock

[cobalt spoke]

Not true, at all, fdgod is probably the second best brig, moths brig is good but fdgod's is better

[cobalt spoke]

This is doubting the crust

Trust the crust

Nero already said he's getting 1 on 1 coaching with crusty

I wouldnt be suprised if he was almost as good as rascal by time the season started

[hot heart]

I think as much as nero gets coached he'll never be better than rascal

At best on par with him

[cobalt spoke]

He doesnt need to be

Shock only really needs 3 1/2 dps tbh

They have 5

Specialization is op

[tawdry hamlet]

If shanghai could iron out their few shortcomings they'd destroy shock

But I've yet to see them do that

And now they are way worse than last season so it won't happen

Well hmm, not way worse, but losing fearless kind of a bruh moment

Tbh if it stayed on old meta in finals shanghai would have won and we all know it

But fearless void can't cover roadhog ball

I cry

[hot heart]

Ye

But

I think fate looked good

[tawdry hamlet]

Fate looked good but charge actually look competitive now so idk how they'll fair in the season with real apac competition

[hot heart]

I think fate could be a better leader than fearless

Like

He certainly isn't as good of a player

But his leadership might be better

Against top teams fate might be the reason they lose a couple of matches

Since he doesnt stack up very well

[tawdry hamlet]

I feel the same about crong and rio tbh

They are good but the weakest links imo

Well hmm, kariv kind of mid too

I think charge have a ton of potential

But new chengdu just doesn't look great to me tbh

[hot heart]

So

Boston signed Faith

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1336247055740768256?s=19

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

According to sources, the Boston Uprising have signed former WGS Pheonix Support player Hong-Gyu "Faith" Kim

Twitter · Dec 8, 2020, 9:51 AM

This is a pretty sizeable pick up

I like it

Based on their recent track record of pick ups too

I think they'll continue picking up WGS players

[hot heart]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1336254990390882307?s=19

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

According to sources, the Boston Uprising have signed former WGS Pheonix DPS Byeong-Ju "Valentine" Kim

Twitter · Dec 8, 2020, 10:23 AM

My brain is fucking massive

Well not really

Just put two and two together

[tawdry hamlet]

Titans please make another pickup

Or you will be the ultimate f tier team

Even boston looks so much better than them now

Like way better

And it's boston lmao

I believe in the boston dream, I saw them play houston and win, and that was like the hypest shit ever lmao

But I also believe in the titans because I watched them play reign and win and that was hype as fuck too

Underdog hype

Im so hype for boston man I can finally be kind of proud of a team that's had two pedos and a single stage win ever

Crazy how justice went from 2nd to last to upper mid with like 2 pickups

[karmic grotto]

OWL is becoming more Korean

[hot heart]

Yeah

Kr contenders along with Chinese Contenders are the only two t2 regions that are alive

[tawdry hamlet]

Well yeah contenders in sa and australia are a joke and eu has no real competition

Hurricane are king of eu but probably lower mid at best in actual league

[primal minnow]

if london pick up bh and stay in asia region for season 4, damn ill feel bad

[tawdry hamlet]

if they stay in asia at all ill feel bad

because asian competition far exceeds their abilities

I think even chengdu would dog them

unless they pick up someone big it looks pretty bad for them too

[primal minnow]

the chinese teams look way more competitive with eachother now as well

[tawdry hamlet]

Paris, London, Vancouver are my bottom three picks, I think right above them will be boston and then atlanta

and then houston

or valiant

[primal minnow]

maybe

[tawdry hamlet]

imo valiant don't look great atm

[primal minnow]

yh they definitely seem like bottom of the league

[tawdry hamlet]

like ksp is good, but dreamer is like eh

I think dumping gravy and replacing him with a good korean off tank would be a good step

oh wait I forgot

they copped adam

[primal minnow]

didnt they sign adam?

[tawdry hamlet]

yee

hmm, interesting

[primal minnow]

all the top tier teams seem very close together in strength

this season will definitely be way more competitive

we have glads, shock, washington, dallas, philly, maybe mayhem, chinese teams and maybe seoul.

[tawdry hamlet]

valiant dps line if they could pick up a solid flex or projectile could actually look good

but there are not too many left that are really going to be a big big impact

[edgy tinsel]

BH would not be bottom 3 in owl

[primal minnow]

I think they would

[edgy tinsel]

????

[primal minnow]

we have to take in to account that EU contenders has little to no competition

and every other team besides paris and vanc seem way better than BH.

[tawdry hamlet]

depends on coaching and how well they transition and such, but with how stacked every team is they really aren't looking too good

maybe like bottom 5 not 3

[edgy tinsel]

ye but its obviously not just bh

[primal minnow]

i mean london will have to sign other people because minimum player and Sparkr wont be old enough to play

[edgy tinsel]

theyd easily be better than the likes of houston

[primal minnow]

I dont think so?

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean old houston maybe, but happy houston idk

[edgy tinsel]

houstons tank line is not good

[tawdry hamlet]

true

[edgy tinsel]

unless they can get meko back

which i doubt

[tawdry hamlet]

they could sign a sick main support if reports that boink left are true which would be nice

[edgy tinsel]

jjanggu piggy were the weakest on talon

by far

[tawdry hamlet]

piggy is fine lol it is the other ones I am worried about

[edgy tinsel]

yeah but they were the worst players on talon

[primal minnow]

arent they supposed to be signing a ms called joobi?

[edgy tinsel]

boink was the first person to be resigned idk why they havent just let him go

or change him to coach

[tawdry hamlet]

you guys think atlanta will do alright? they look like the epitome of mediocrity atm

[edgy tinsel]

i also dont see the point in outlaws getting ksf

[primal minnow]

Who do they even have?

[edgy tinsel]

after getting happy

[primal minnow]

KSF is flex/projectile isnt he?

[tawdry hamlet]

isn't ksf a projectile?

yeah I think

[primal minnow]

Happy is hit scan

[tawdry hamlet]

that is why they signed him

[primal minnow]

thats why

[edgy tinsel]

but then

[tawdry hamlet]

since danteh can play tracer genji and such and happy can hitscan

[edgy tinsel]

they have danteh?

[tawdry hamlet]

but idk how danteh is on other heroes

[primal minnow]

KSF may be a backup

[edgy tinsel]

danteh was a great echo aswell

[primal minnow]

I mean they have 4 dps dont they?

Hydration, Danteh, KSF and Happy?

[edgy tinsel]

depends if we still count hydration as dps

all he played was MT

[tawdry hamlet]

atlanta desperately needs a new tank line pls

[edgy tinsel]

only player i rate is pelican

[primal minnow]

Lr1s?

[tawdry hamlet]

pelican and edison really are the only ones I would call like good lmao

the rest are mid to me

lris is pretty good I believe

[primal minnow]

Yh they are

[edgy tinsel]

nah edison did not impress this yr

he needs a better team

he wont perform with this either

[tawdry hamlet]

im just glad they dumped saucy and dogman, they were dead weight lmao

[primal minnow]

fucking saucy tire

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh if you put any of these people in their current roster they would mostly all be downgrades except maybe pokpo lmao

saucy tire!

love getting that one tire in 4 minutes baby

[edgy tinsel]

that sounds like me on junk

[tawdry hamlet]

same

[edgy tinsel]

does that mean im owl ready

[tawdry hamlet]

for such an easy character I suck some fat ass with him lmao

[edgy tinsel]

since they made his projectile faster i cant hit them

[tawdry hamlet]

never forget

god that comp was so stupid

literally threw a whole series to play a meme junkrat sym comp

1:21 into the video is saucy tire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA8FYMIjbkU

coaching go brr

damn I forgot how cracked xzi was that series

[cedar oasis]

Atlanta was just disappointing

This season

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean they at least made top 6 I think

but they made some wack decisions

atlanta with their current roster has only one hope, and that is rein being viable again

gator is actually a beast rein

but that will never happen lmao

lmao when soon switched to junkrat and got tire in like a minute lmao

tbh I just can't believe saucy got in the owl

crazy to think back then car car dalton and saucy got in the league but now even the best t2 players are struggling to find a job

this series kicked ass too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lcQLqs0BKc

this was the series that put me on the shockwave hype train

[cedar oasis]

Did Atlanta beat anyone good

[forest raven]

They beat Shock in season 2 playoffs

[cedar oasis]

I mean season 3

[forest raven]

Oh

They beat one of the better teams in the Countdown Cup when Genji was good

[tawdry hamlet]

summer showdown was great because houston beat mayhem when mayhem were like top 4 and houston was like top 10

danteh genji diff was epic af

[forest raven]

No

I'm stupid

Toronto beat Atlanta in the CC

[tawdry hamlet]

agilities diff

agilities literally hard carried that and it was so fun to watch

[raw ermine]

Don't diss my man logix. He helped with the win as well

[cedar oasis]

Nah

All genji

[next mesa]

Didn't blase play genji

[raw ermine]

danteh did a bit

blase might have

[plush light]

In lower ranks aim matters more because you can't rely on crosshair placement because people are all over the place. Therefore you don't have to rely on mechanics for 90% of play in owl

[cobalt spoke]

Ok

???

[next mesa]

ok???

[edgy tinsel]

????

[slow kraken]

I feel like toronto definitely has their moments

[edgy tinsel]

ok???

[slow kraken]

Like for some reason against the fusion it’s always close

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1336305002424524802?s=19

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

Sources: The Paris Eternal are expected to sign former Dallas Fuel DPS “Onigod” for 2021.

Twitter · Dec 8, 2020, 1:41 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

they'll still probably suck but at least my mans found a team

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1336254990390882307

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

According to sources, the Boston Uprising have signed former WGS Pheonix DPS Byeong-Ju "Valentine" Kim

Likes

578

Twitter · Dec 8, 2020, 10:23 AM

[cloud latch]

ooo

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1336247055740768256

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

According to sources, the Boston Uprising have signed former WGS Pheonix Support player Hong-Gyu "Faith" Kim

Likes

468

Twitter · Dec 8, 2020, 9:51 AM

[next mesa]

both

both is good

[weak bolt]

Fusions/Myunbong/Punk could have made a real good decision sticking with Boston this year

[cobalt spoke]

Not being at the bottom will boost bostons mental out of the gutter, then they can start winning

Titans will be the worst team this year, they just dont want to win, whereas Boston is just bad

[tawdry hamlet]

I just find it wild that almost every roster looks mid

and then there is titans

[cobalt spoke]

Exactly

[trail perch]

Paris

London

We'll see

But signing wgs is a amazing first step

considering they just won contenders

[cobalt spoke]

Now that teams can just say goodbye to alot of doodoo players they van actually bevome good

[trail perch]

The last team that was signed to owl after winning contenders was the titans

[cobalt spoke]

The level of play this next year will be so high

[trail perch]

Imma leave this here and say boston dark horse to win alot

[next mesa]

who is their off tank

punk

yeah no

[trail perch]

What if they sign gaebullssi

Boston has more money then almost any other org

Considering the parent company is a global conglomorate with billions

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/LogixOW/status/1336097323219300352 what does he mean

Andreas Berghmans (@LogixOW)

bring back decay not trying to play with someone who hasnt played in 2 years

Likes

621

Twitter · Dec 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

gaebullssi is rumored for nyxl

[raw ermine]

uh

[trail perch]

fucking punctuation

Is there supposed to be a comma after decay?

[raw ermine]

I think decay hasn't played comp in a long time

OHHH

[cloud latch]

I think he means ranked

decay

[raw ermine]

not the player

yeah

lmaooo

the feature

[next mesa]

lmao

OHHHHH

OHHHHHHHHHH

[trail perch]

LMAO

[next mesa]

DUDE IM ACTUALLY STUPID

[raw ermine]

same

[next mesa]

ok well, that was embarassing

[trail perch]

Welp we get more signings today

at aprox 2pm

est

[cloud latch]

lol

[inland flare]

Might put boston as a mid tier team

in my power rankings

[edgy tinsel]

sr decay right?

[raw ermine]

yeah

[next mesa]

I thought he was dissing on decay the player

[inland flare]

Stand1 and Punk

Is a good tank line

[next mesa]

Punk?

PUNK???????????

ok

[inland flare]

doubting punk????

Weird

[next mesa]

YEAH????? LMAO

[inland flare]

Ye punk is good

B tier off tank

[next mesa]

B tier

B tier??????

okay okay

let's do an off tank tier list

[inland flare]

He got potential

Tbh

Plus

[silk frost]

Dude Punk is the 3rd best western OT

With a good coach he should perform

[next mesa]

S only Void Choi

[inland flare]

He has a better coach to make him a better player

[raw ermine]

not even fury?

[next mesa]

A: Fury Cr0ng Hanbin

maybe

[inland flare]

SO CRONG IS A JOKE TO U

FURY IS A JOKE TO U

[silk frost]

Cr0ng is a rookie

[next mesa]

S tier I only want best of the best man sorry

[plush grail]

Wow logix called decay a bitch on stream???!!!

[silk frost]

SR decay

[noble nexus]

Assuming anyone below his S tier is a joke

Lol

[raw ermine]

S: Void, Fury, Choi
A:Crong,Hanbin,Space

who else at A