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genji sombra monkey dva is an interesting comp ngl
not sure I really expected it
rip 1987 lolol
[KARIV] has stopped spectating
eileen has spoken!
and then eileen is online or something
not that I know what they said lmao!
we love chinese language
damn looking like a
day
I am really really hyped to watch shd
hyped for guangzhou
wait do they even have any tanks left I don't even remember
they dumped stand 1 and fearless
I know they have void
didn't they get another?
oh yeah
fate
now I remember, exciting
Took you a while
yes it did
my memory is pretty dogshit about these things nowadays lmao
wonder who shanghai will play
so many dps choices lol
yeah it looks alright although it is a pretty fat dps diff imo
no jimnu today unless he's being subbed in
sadge
no sms
missing my mans jinmu
sadge
makes me wonder if shanghai will go the fleta lip route or the diem route or something way different with erster
doubt they would play erster but they could
oh yeah the yellow text during anubis
Kariv is now playing overwatch
Eileen is now playing overwatch
hmm, im ngl I am kind of worried for charge
shanghai on paper look like a way stronger team
and in actual play are usually the stronger team
I could beat up fleta no problem
a reminder of what we were once promised
timmy!
Reaper grenade launcher
my last public event I went to was a ciyt meetup
50-odd people gatherings have never felt more cathartic
such a fat crowd to watch some epic overwatch inbetween mobile game tourneys lmao
also true
a big crowd watching overwatch was hard to imagine at the houston homestand
but they did it in 2020
lol
Homestands in America for like 50 people to watch woohoo
but from what I see on youtube 2019 homestands lowkey looked dead af except for finals
I'm convinced once homestands return it will become the new normal not just in asia but in europe too
for those big venues at the Zenith in Paris
or the two spaces they had booked for London
I hope the league recovers nicely from the pandemic and that all these fans are not just overflow from the other game tourneys lol
because 2020 felt like the league was a super niche thing nobody knew about vs 2019 where it looked like the nfl by comparison lmao
ooh not running ameng ball
interesting
well it was going to be planned that waytbh
COD matches from orgs that also had OWL teams planned host at the same venue
fair enough
leave bringing out the big boy characters now
can't wait for GZ match to whip out the herbalife sponsor heh
honestly pro fights always just look so condensed and targeted to one area like they all move as one solid mass and it is so epic to watch
imo chengdu bout to be bottom of the apac pack yet again
unless a different team just really fucks up their roster
like ny or something
nah i think they're just on par
let's see peak chengdu where they sweep other teams for a whole weekend
meta diff
I mean I guess but isn't a ball meta kind of chengdu's ideal play?
yeah i see ga9a being fielded more often if they're ready to use less anti-meta strategies
outside of control, at least
their control game is no different to other teams who focus their entire team's match condition on winning the first map
epic ga9a hook to move the payload
gotta soak in the last map win from Chengdu in 2020
"They don't seem to need ameng anymore" - Bilibili comment
"Guxue's ball is not very useful" - also translated weird but the idea is about right
you ever look forward to some good overwatch being played
and go
DAMN
I want an iQOO 5 with 5G
Sex
Was he ever asked why the fuck he did that
they have like 6 minutes to push barely any distance
and then it is 2-2
6 minutes to go 20 meters and tie the series, will they do it or will we have a chengdu choke
hmm
the real mvp was my man obswinston
No dumbass it says atlanta in his name
No his name says atlanta so he can't leave

What lmao
But
If he doesnt leave
ATL have a sick dps line
As always i guess
Edison Pelican is just so good
MekO might be good to keep
Just incase we see some weird double OT meta
And rotate OTs also
I mean i doubt he is worth the money now that they have piggy
Give piggy some time to adjust
Danteh said on stream he misses meko and someone on twitter said an "insider source" said boink is gone or some shit so that will be fun to see who they pick up
Crimzo said he already knew his support duo
hmm
idk I didn't get into league until after slime's big time
so idk if he is any good
I haven't seen him play in ages
He hasnt played much
But honestly
If he came back
And looked top tier
Wouldn't be surprised
well if that series showed anything, it showed architect is still a beast

let the
hype start

Let's go

Erster tracer fleta echo
GZ are in for a bad time
They're gonna do good
But tbh
You arent beating SHD in terms of dps
tbh their tank line also
fate void go brr
if only they had a better main support 
idk why they got molly unless molly just has some hero that ljg and iziyaki are missing
assume they just wanted to fill out the roster maybe idk
ah yeah that is true
had to get that chinese representation lmao
diya has been replaced by molly as the only chinese dragon now

rosters looking good
I think SHD is gonna be better at every role other than tank
is molly exceptionally good at any hero? I missed a lot of chengdu games last season
Zen
I just know baconjack was kind of pepega
fair, but isn't iziyaki insane on zen?
they ready for them zen bap metas les go
idk fate is really good, and so is void, so it isn't like their tank line is really lacking
It isnt better than last year
I think SHD are trying to compensate for that by getting these insane pop off players at other roles
And erster
and erster
yee
charge kind of worry me tbh, they don't look that great for next season ngl, dps looks aight, tank looks upper mid, and support just looks mid
diem so good he in a dark room illuminated only by his glowing figure
ooh they running diem
they tryna whip out the sniper
interesting
since spark and chengdu both stayed far away from that
well relatively far away
they did whip out ashe
I like how all the top teams just make zen work over other heroes lmao
Lmao yeah
like other teams go more traditional and shanghai shock and fusion just shove an insane zen in there
yo this banner has been overflowing with new sponsors since last match against chengdu
what the floating green thing?
it has been annoying the shit out of me all stream lmao
double shield vs finals meta
interesting match
excite
mmm maybe but something I noticed while watching the gf is the top teams have a habit of swiping back koth fights last second
and completely ruining everyones thoughts of domination
like on oasis where seoul looked in full control first point and then boom got wacked
artificially creating clutch games
lmao
sad high noon
ooh dragons just can't be beat man wtf every time a team looks good against a top team it takes like one teamfight for it to fall apart lmaoo
as it's 12:30am Sunday here
Man
it is 3:31am on saturday here strange future man
I want someone to pick up pokpo man 
he needs another shot
my winston one trick bb
He probably goes to contenders
probably
tbh most of atlantas roster last year should have been contenders at best
saucy and dogman I am looking at you

eileen pog
like gator can somewhat hold down the fort as a mid tier main tank and the dps line was stacked with erster and edison and sharp but like, support line kind of let them down a lil bit
fire and dogman lmao
what goat supports
Gator they kept for his sig probably
hope some time on a lower team will let fire and frd shine though much like shockwave did
maybe vancouver just becomes the creators of the next big talent but they themselves always suck lmao, like the nba team that gets first pick on a star player and then trades them to a mega team the next season lmao
is this enough for pro? https://overwatchtracker.com/profile/pc/global/Goomster-1258/heroes/dva?mode=0
View Goomster#1258's Overwatch Hero stats, and leaderboard rankings for D.Va.
?
just say yes
oof a second 99 99 point
DIEEM
how interesting
That was really close
so used to watching pure domination from shanghai that was actually interesting
But koth is usually like that
yeah
Or upset central
no swaps on volskaya sad
That was a roll
come on shanghai just put erster in already I am tired of watching diem play ashe

wait didn't shock pickup glister and nero or was that a fever dream by me
I remember nero but was glister someone they picked up?
Yeah
they got both
Current dps is Nero Glister ANS Striker Ta1yo
is diem top tier at any other heroes besides widow and ashe?
I know some widow gods are kind of bad at ashe
But i havent seen it in some time
like xzi 
So it might be good but not top tier
fair
this tourney lowkey unfair to charge tho
since charge vs spark would have actually been competitive
this is just shanghai being shanghai
but fair enough
I demand handicaps because shanghai is too good smh
could you imagine if leagues actually put safeguards in place to prevent mega teams or something, like they limit top tier players to 2 or something lmao
interesting not running lip fleta but running erster diem
tbh shanghai has so many dps combos they can use now it is awesome
just trying them out now or finals i guess
man wondering which players shanghai and shock will play in which metas is going to be sick lol
bruh
ljg got kariv with the mercy glizzy didn't he
MYKaylee could have brought in the BOB too
strange defense, but a pleasant one to be sure
kaylee is looking great tbh
yeah him and eileen are playing from the same place
idk why they put choi on cree
lmao
such a sadge use of their new player
I thought diem would trash kayleee though with just sheer hitscan presence over the rookie man
but it is relatively even, like 1v1 diem would destroy but kaylee putting in work
but man Kariv is washed af no cap
I am watching dogmans stream of the stream and ngl it is so much more entertaining lmaoo
ooooof
that ending is ruff for molly lmaooo
kaylee is a beast omg
man I'm so happy he got picked up now
on any team that needed an underrated player, he was a good pickup over jimmy
alright now that you lost a game time to put mvp mans back in
lmao Dogmans stream
his translation of the chinese casters
he named the man with the big ass philips logo in front of him philip
like it is a big ass nametag
Whoes that?
the new charge dps
from contendies
wish it was a different meta so I could watch seominsoo 
kaylee a natural on Gibraltar
there's old video of him dunking on carpe
as widow that's good content
ngl, Kariv getting killed by ljg was pog af
bruh who just hit escape lmao
god the color difference with charge being red and shanghai being blue is fucking me mentally
pls esm
why you do this
it's hilarious
why can't this be like the league where monkey electric stuff is red
blame the lack of foresight or the ability to enforce team colours like the OWL spectator client
I mean I don't mind that much for a third party invitational
but like
it is bugging me lmao
it's irritating yeah
take it from someone whose seen enough of it when i hosted community tourneys with colourblind options
are these independent of owl events with teams super common? I didn't really watch league much last year or pre march
I know like world cup and shit exists but are tourneys with actual teams common?
they're quite infrequent last year
I recall the offseason california cup was one such case
like I didn't even know this was a thing and now I get to see new players months before league season lmao
new valiant players vs new shock players
off season content is pog
yeah it's good to follow all 20 teams to check this out
mayhem classic was a regular thing once
that was more for t2-t3 talent though
they simply sponsored it
ew kariv on ana is kind of so so meh
not sure mandu is enough of a main healer to let Kariv carry
oooh dogman talking fate is better than fearless but idk man
That's just stupid
loll are you watching his stream too?
Bernar has exited Overwatch
tragic
yeah his co-stream is making this entertaining
yeah it is so much better than just watching the bilibili stream idk why lmao
FARWAY1989 has exited Overwatch
english commentary from a pro player really helps
meanwhile
some british streamer is getting 1-2 viewers
meanwhile fleta is showing tracer is nowhere near his top heroes lolol
pro gamer differ
rip charge lmao
now here we are two months later, and I still can't fathom why Fusion ran heesu over carpe 
I'm not that bothered by it
it's been explained reasonably well from ChrisTFer's pov
Ay yo are they still playing
yeah

the co stream link at least
if you wanted to watch that
truer words have never been spoken
Wait is that the real dogman
also kenobi are you obiwankenobi in twitch chat lmao
try clutch it up, boys
they did a really good job during the first run but i'm doubtful they're changing up for the better
one of these days instead of switching off sym someone is just going to straight play sym and shock the world lmao
like shock did on kings row

cr0ng whipped out dva
interesting
ooooh the hype the hype the hype
THEY WOKE HIM UP
bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro so much hype omg
oh my god
N I C E
broo
MAP 5 BABY AGAINST SHANGHAI
they held 2 minutes and ended at .69 what pog
lmao everyone in chat shitting on crong
this is so sad
marble time baby
les go
narmaki pog lmao
chat hatin
but they ain't playin' with such a big brain like cr0ng's
Watch dogman's clip titled "Always trust the high risk KR strats - Dogman Marbles on stream"
you might enjoy this from the last run with "korean man"
what the fuck is happening on dogmans stream
he's watching shanghai masters like the rest of us
and playing marbles lmao
Korean man really crushed it lmao
nah idk if he is that good, but he generally knows what he is saying
custa is next level though in terms of transitioning from player to caster
custa god custa god
nah jake is the best caster
ayo this is on twitch right
the jake solo cast
i just woke up
kk
or you can watch it directly on bilibili
LETS GO PJ RIO
but that is kind of ass
also ho whas fate been, is he gonna be a okay replacement for fearless
Eileen has been on charge for 2 years
Fate has been the token feeder, he's good on this team but idk how good
fate looks good, I don't think he will ever match the fearless hype but he ok imo
Izayaki has been looking good
o well jinmu hasn't played today
sadge
hot takes hot takes
saying fate is better than fearless again how dare he
🐶 👨 bad
in 7 days dogman is going to announce what team he is on
I hope it isn't just bait and he joined a low tier contendies roster or something
He didn't say what team, just that he has an announcement in 7 days
fair
stop bullying
but he said he isn't lft so I would presume
I wonder if he's doing something talent related
unless its a casting role or something
I could see that
why are they still playing orisa and not ball
Does this look like the face of a hitscan who can dunk on both Carpe AND Diem?
I was wondering that like 4 maps ago
yeah dogman on the analyst desk would be a great choice for rotating NA broadcast
Rio isn't great at ball
he's a better orisa and winston
Looks like a bit of a weakness in the GZC lineup for sure
I mean I assume ball meta will be dead by league s4 so it won't matter too much by then
but atm charge look like a mid team with a high tier dps line
also sombruh moira swaps were kind of wack
tragic
lmao the dragons look so bored of winning
monkey ball please
SHD just did a shock, they won control/2cp and couldnt win the other 2
🥺

I want people who come back to ow2 next year to learn about the incredible wrecking ball
Seems like that really could be a thing this year, teams that are good at payload maps, and those who play good on point based maps
So
chengdu did not look stacked
lmao
Based off of what we've seen today
so it's not a repeat of last year's Shanghai Masters
I'd say SHD GZ HZ CH
home team advantage every time
I'd love to watch a 3rd place match between CHD and GZC
idk Hz looked good, but gz dps line looked way way better
pogg laugh track in a tream
Kaylee and choiswehan might be a top tier dps line next year
I'll look forward to a power ranking shift like this

idk about choi
I really liked his mccree
but then again they threw him on cree for one map lmao even though he is a flex
it wasn't overnight when neptuno and crong were on this roster as newbies
nep probably would have stayed if it were up to him
logistics and org's time spent flying people over to renew visas has really cut off the western market for themselves
Nero too i guess
tbh most of the middle eastern area pros got fucked by covid
he and happy were both winners in this
no teams in Pacific east would have space to sign chara
so him going into coaching is disappointing
I wish this night didn't go on forever past 4am
I also wonder when tf florida is going to announce something man I wanna know 
it's now 2:25am
it is 5am for me lol
i feel for EU having to watch APAC matches for NYXL during the regular season
thinking about vancouver
a place where fire is actually an upgrade
what a place to be lmao
carcar left some huge shoes to fill man, idk if he is up to the herculean task
"All guys think about one thing and it's disgusting"
guys: ||Titans dogman||?

Did shanghai and guangzhou have a showmatch?
it just ended
yee
Where was it streamed
and then spark v dragons is happening today I think
now onto the final matchup
bilibili
bilibili
No YT?
dogman just ended his costream I think
Ah I see
these are Shanghai hosted esports tourney every December
it is the shanghai esm thing so it is all china
lol we just mirroring each other at this point
I guess I will see how bilibili is on mobile
overwatch teams packed into three mobile esportd titles lmao
wish they had a chinese mobile app even
I need to watch more tier 2 games, I want to see all my dropped t1 players play again 
fuck it imma give the flex cree despite having signed the best t2 hitscan out there
charge be like
not that it matters that much because it is a show game
imagine GZ or HZ getting a smartphone brand as another sponsor
china does have a lot of brands wanting international marketing
really though, I hope new metas shake things up enough so that all these new upper mid teams like charge actually have a shot in playoffs
because it is annoying to see teams like charge make fat pickups but then just be knocked out at 3rd or 2nd place every single tourney lmao
or last year mayhem for example
we need new heroes these guys too good now lmaoo
basically I am complaining that one team is always winning despite having better coaching and players lmao
Who streamed the match on bilibili?
the odds of hz whipping out a win in this meta look kind of bad, I think diem void carry is too much
I think hangzhou might be one of the better APAC teams next season, assuming covid still splits regions
fleta looks suprisingly mediocre this tourney
hangzhou are hella stacked
but tracer was never his strong suit so not super surprising
I mean by comparison not his strong suit
yeah this is almost an exact repeat, not a rematch of the Countdown cup
in general it is alright
which means I'll hold on until its over

Hangzhou is not known for reverse sweeping teams
so a 2-0 lead for Shanghai virtually locks this match in
to upset the home team is not a surprise, but at a Shanghai pop up home stand for this tournament it would be
wait when did the spark sign the underage guy lmao
I missed that
but they do have seo lige and architect so I agree they stacked
you don't recall?
let me pull it up
Want some snacks?
He may be young, but he shall be one of our most reliable shields.
Let's welcome our new main tank, Takoyaki! (^o^)/
@OW_Takoyaki #sparkbang https://t.co/HUEKYen2Y1
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I remember several
but tako in particular, when there was a dry spell for new player signing on spark
I remember the other pickups lmao just not him I guess
but now I really want to watch more of this stream to see if they play seo or not
doubt they will
Takoyaki did really well
but I really wanna see him lmao
oh yeah LiGe could be playing instead of Guxue
yeah takoyaki is underage but will be active come mid-april (bday is April 17)
holy shit cow corpse pog
17th here in NZ
lmao
they have a stuffed roster
let's see them perform well or compete for that starting position next year
erster squats
would play this game in vc they're doing on zoom
I want owl to do more segments like that
I have no idea what they are saying but it looks fun lmao
it's like you go around as ask each player to name something like an ability and if you get it wrong you have to squat
a lot of the KR OWL YT channel has stuff like this already
글리스터는 그냥 물만두 하자...🥟
오버워치 리그 공식 유튜브 채널: https://bit.ly/2UQzq1L
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reasons i guess they couldn't do it for NA is because the references are too localized, memes included
OWL should just replace half time breaks with marbles
How long is the break between matches?
was 30 mins between these Shangai masters matches. But final starts like any minute
this particular one has been 30 mins because they needed to give shanghai enough time after their map 5 win
they probably would have got more if it was a 3-0 blowout
lol walkout music for HZS is on point
lol this chat is facing an identity crisis, including a lot of heavy filtering but dogman is in there lol
Do Ge Man
@raw ermine
still bernar and guxue
Dogman looked up chinese politics, and then his stream crashed about 3 mins later lol
where can we watch this?
Most people are using Dogmans stream I think
ok
||they all went to game 5?||
dogman or bilibili
no molly
haha
omg diem is playing
I just noticed
POG
diem prob like bitch gimme more playtime
lmao wtf is this meta
Diem's golden BOB
I feel like dragons is gonna sweep, lmao
the script was saved during the countdown cup
they go to map 4
and you just groan at the thought of them getting so close for two maps in a row
4-0?
yeah I believe it
my regular role is gone 😦
Some of this new talent is looking sweet though, going to be a fun season if the rest is like this
Also Architect looking cracked again, hope he bounces back hard from last season
that score 0:1 today
that was a sad match between team diya and some other players in contenders china
big sad
wowowow no social distancing in china owo
BOB Battle
its not needed anymore
I got top 10 damn
finally got the point
I got 4th
I got 1st
BOBBERS
Man Architect looking good on tracer
yeah it's refreshing
living up to the hype that came with him during the season
and takoyaki will be the one to watch out for next year
I didn’t think we would see tako play Bc he still is underage but he looks good rn
the biggest L today is chengdu not playing Jimmy
The L I took at the start of that race is a resemblance of how it feels to be a mercy main
That’s next weekend

Elsa and Gag9 and Ameng swapped in and out occasionally
But otherwise that was the lineup
They looked okay, but architect was running a tracer train on them
But they had their moments
And brought it back to 2-3 after 2-0 so that was fun
Wait no
I can't even remember a series I watched like 2 hours ago wtf
Oh yeah they did okay im second guessing myself for no reason lmao
But 1987 looked alright
I c
Kaylee on charge looked insanely good
true sync with eileen's dps
Gag9 played ball over ameng 
Loll
my fingers are used to ga9a now
die

farway1989 is the first to break the number at the end convention
we could of had coolmat69 in OWL
Man ameng is gonna be dumped soon for a more flexible tank I feel it
Im gonna crine when it happens

In all honesty though maybe I'd remember the events and players and teams way better if I wasn't baked out of my mind most of the time. Man I feel like a pleb when I misremember things tho lmaoo
Isn’t sparkle sp9rk13
Lmao idek

Man more than one number replacing a letter in your name should be a crime
Far too much effort to type 
feath5r
God when you guys talk about a player like flower and don't use the numbers and then im like who tf is flower and then im like oh yeah fl0w3r
Such an effort to type 
Btw why TF does that guy use a different sense for like every hero
Mad man
The amount of micro adjusting for each character is psychotic
Yeah, I have one for everything and then sometimes I'll raise monke up a bit
And my zoom sense is 38 but it's always been like that for me
That chart isn't accurate anymore. According to fl0w3rs twitch bot he uses 450 and 10 for all heros and 450 and 8 for tracer and thats it
Did you know that onigod changes his sens regularly
so does ta1yo
lmao
he goes
I get bored of this sens
so I switch like every 2 weeks
I hope crusty slaps some sense into him lmfao
Ta1yo is just like remarkably good for someone who's whole playing setup is a meme lmao
they postponing match i guess
😩
yes
spark players and coaches came into dogman twitch saying it was cancelled/postponed
Tragic

Arachne is streaming and he drops a competitive gave for a call lmao
Tried translating what happened in the call
I've forgotten your rank doesn't go down if you've been suspended due to afk
No I think he was joking
It still drops 50 SR which might not seem like as bad as it should for Masters
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Folks will just be salty for queue times are just long like that
He couldn't cancel it in time before he got the call anyways and its not like he was in a hurry to restart the timer
This hangzhou vs shanghai finals is STILL GOING
it started 3 hours ago
and it's locked at 2-0
YOOO THEY CRASHED
servers stopped the game
Who's up?
dude what's the point of coldest and mcd
wtf
fdgod weirdchamp
I know
yikes
I'm still up
fielder really just beat sparkle in 1v1 lmao
Due to network connectivity issues, the finale of the ESM Overwatch Invitational is sadly unable to continue and has been rescheduled after the tournament committee has consulted with both teams. We would like to thank all our viewers and we will keep you all updated on new info.
trade coldest to hunters....... he's just rotting on the fricking bench it's insane
empathy your name is so fitting right now
I did a blurb about the event in my server
all i know from the translated message at the end of the broadcast is that they'll announce the outcome of the discussions on weibo
FLORIDA I SWEAR TO HOLY FUCK PICK UP TOBI
WhoRu in the list
no flex supports are there
im just assuming becuz they are sticking with gangnamjin
😭
Fissure/Kaiser, Gargoyle/Jjanu. Bqb/Nenne. Libero/Rascal, Sanguinar/Tobi
pick those

Albert here trying to ask you to pick one from the drop-down menu in the Build-a-mayhem app
S4 the flex god isnt here
Optimal: Mer1T, Libero
Personal Best: Ace, Rascal
If all the good players have been taken: Nenne/Kadalis, Although
Mayhem: BQB, Assassin/Illicit
okay but it's mayhem
i should have made it clearer they would be mad to keep bqb
if this is the talent pool they've been prospecting
for who knows how long
this is so disappointing
why would he do this 😦
that is so inappropriate of FDGod
Perfact and Na1st deserve to be in owl 😦
Yaki is a top 5 flex dps
bitch did u say yakpung over kaiser and fissure?
how could FDGod do this
Tf u talking about
kaiser aint that good
kaiser is a rein otp, and fissure could be better but is shaky
yak is the main mt for o2
Yeah kaiser got benched
oh one question , does anyone know anything about the new glads support player ?
i know his team won open division but i know nothing about him
oz gaming was a bad contenders team, but did fine in trials
so should we expect anything good from skewed or nah ?
dpei probably has a plan
lots of players on bad contenders teams end up being good
worst comes to worst, we play shu exclusively
According to sources, the New York Excelsior have hired Min-Seong Kim as their Team Manager.
For those of you who do not know, he previously worked for T1 and has done a lot of past translations of Faker's LoL streams
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yea
According to sources, the Houston Outlaws have supposedly signed former Los Angeles Valiant DPS Kyle "KSF" Frandanisa
sure lmao
yeah
why
they have happy
they needed nero
danteh covers tracer sombra, happy is sniper, hydration exists, they need something like nero
incidentally, ditch hydration
or is he good enough on projectile to be nero level
ksf, that is
hey guys ik this may sound dumb, but where on the site can you find the contenders stream?
youtube
but i want the drops :p
Is meko stil with Houston
yeah dont they have piggy already






