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inland flare
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Trust us

trail perch
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as you name the 3 worst parts of the team

noble nexus
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Ttuba only looked good on genji realistically

trail perch
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nah

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in Gf he looked insane

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playoffs*

noble nexus
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ah yeah but the entire roster looked good then

trail perch
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Tru

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Roar sadge

noble nexus
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Roar was that team's issue

trail perch
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and stitch

inland flare
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He's known for his pharah, genji, and doom.

noble nexus
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with Mag instead they might be good

trail perch
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and ttuba

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The entire team was bellow average

inland flare
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I'll admit r0ar isn't that great

noble nexus
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Roar might be one of the worst performing MT's owl has had

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that's an understatement if you ask me

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it's like he did more bad than good

trail perch
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also I watched ttuba back in contenders, when he was on 7, didnt look that good either

noble nexus
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I think Ttuba is mouldable tbh

trail perch
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Unless they sign rascal, they are going to be a solid mid tier team

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like the glads last year

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wait scratch that

noble nexus
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I hope the glads sign Rascal

trail perch
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almost exactly like the glads last year

noble nexus
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but I reckon Fusion will

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I reckon Justice will be like the mayhem last season tbh

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they have the opportunity to rock better teams

trail perch
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#4?

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Shock philly dallas above them

noble nexus
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that's if the supp line is good

trail perch
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I think #4 is going to be the contested spot

noble nexus
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I feel like Glads take that spot in NA

trail perch
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Glads, toronto

noble nexus
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ehh idk about Toronto

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they make some weird moves

trail perch
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KDG

noble nexus
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and some good ones

trail perch
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Trust

noble nexus
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they resigned beast I really don't know

trail perch
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and signed sado

noble nexus
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I wanna believe in them but stuff like that worries me

trail perch
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Sado michelle might be insane

noble nexus
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Yeah I said that the other day

trail perch
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We just havent seen them together yet

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Thats why preseason we cant tell with players who we havent seen recently

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like michelle

inland flare
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You know what....

noble nexus
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yeah that's why most power rankings are wrong

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in offseason

inland flare
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I trust pre picking bebe and closer

noble nexus
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I don't

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Closer has had his peak imo

trail perch
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s1

noble nexus
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and bebe is like middle of the pack on the most stacked role

inland flare
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Closer is really good at ult tracking from what I heard

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Plus

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Bebe is really good on s2 while he was with our head coach

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So maybe they can work well with each other

trail perch
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Bebe was not rly good s2

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He was the worst part of the roster

inland flare
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No he wasn't lol

trail perch
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Then who was???

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Bc I know it wasnt ria

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and by god IDK was insane

inland flare
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All of the starting 6 was good mate

trail perch
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Not bebe, he was just average

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as a spark fan at the time it was rly disappointing

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Because the team oculd have been so good

inland flare
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Not really tbh, nyxl shock and titans

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Are insane

trail perch
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and the spark where number 4

inland flare
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Yeah

trail perch
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but they could have been better

next mesa
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seoul behind shock

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trust

inland flare
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Even the glads were in a similar level as y'all

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Y'all were facing good ass teams tbh

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A lot

trail perch
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Im telling you, bebe is a low mid tier off support

inland flare
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Nope

next mesa
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as of this season yeah

inland flare
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Nah

next mesa
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flex support is stacked

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but either way we'll just see how he performs

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next year

inland flare
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Always has been

next mesa
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for now I trust the coaches decision

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they ran a really thorough trial

inland flare
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Just like ot rooe

next mesa
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bebe and closer came up on top

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that's just how it is

trail perch
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But the coaches wherent that great last season

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Jjanu was playing the worse he has ever been

inland flare
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They'll probably pick up another flex support

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Jjanu was the best part of this team tbh

worn falcon
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Quatermain

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Bruh, rip shd

trail perch
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Nah they still have moon

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We didnt say rip shock when nineK or junkbuck left

next mesa
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True

solar bison
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Its a shock process

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Every year, they get new assistant coaches and drop the previous years assistants

trail perch
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maybe moon will do the same

plush light
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Shock assistant coachs prop have it easy because of crusty bring so damn good

noble nexus
karmic grotto
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so it ends with a W?

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SWPHAEWFAT

next mesa
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SW

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wtf

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its a bait

raw ermine
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kinda hoped they'd spell JEBAITEDXD

tidal ridge
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been waiting for SWPHAEWFAT to get signed, crazy player

digital cloud
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could be an anagram

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probably just a joke, but whatever

worn falcon
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my man sbb streaming some tracer

jovial pagoda
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Why is it called eSports? I mean u can use any other letter. Why not qSports? Or fSports?

limber pine
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are you being serious?

jovial pagoda
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No, I am being Potato Man Jr.

limber pine
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this is a serious discussion channel

jovial pagoda
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My apologies.

inland flare
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Guys the words are scrambled

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Letters I mean

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SWPHAEWFAT

raw ermine
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I doubt it

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unless you found something

inland flare
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I don't

vital geode
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bruv eSports the e stands for electronic

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i think

next mesa
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sbb tracer is still kinda cracked

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letters are scrambled

inland flare
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If ATL isn't baiting, then the words are scrambled

next mesa
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okay guys cmon we can do this

inland flare
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Yeah wtf

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We are 5hesd

next mesa
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okay

inland flare
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head*

next mesa
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SWPHAEWFAT

raw ermine
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I played scrabble semi competitively

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i'm an expert

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semi expert

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2 Ws?

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weird

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it's gotta be a meme

next mesa
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okay go to liquipedia

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I search North America

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yall divide among yourselves

inland flare
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Ok

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I'll go for

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EU

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Probably not be in Eu

next mesa
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ok no one in NA

trail perch
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check KN

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or CN

raw ermine
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I got nothing better to do

next mesa
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ill do korea now

inland flare
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Can't be CN

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Tbh

trail perch
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but aside from KN CN is the next best reigon

inland flare
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Unless they are korean

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True

next mesa
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nothing in korea

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..

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๐Ÿค”

earnest leaf
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99% chance it's a shitpost

inland flare
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No one has two w's

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And 10 letter name

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????

next mesa
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yeah its a shit post

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for sure

trail perch
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wb signed players

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maybe its a trade

formal crystal
next mesa
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yo he kinda thick boi

raw ermine
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to replace rawkus?

next mesa
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he's a tank

inland flare
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He's good, right

raw ermine
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i meant thicc

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yeah he's good

next mesa
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OH

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lol

inland flare
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Which region he played in

next mesa
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wasn't he talon

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I forgot

earnest leaf
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this is bumper levels of size

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he's gonna pound the league

next mesa
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wait t1

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wait talon

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lmao i was right

inland flare
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Ot??

next mesa
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yea

formal crystal
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Talon ot contenders kr

inland flare
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I only pay attention to EU, sometimes NA

worn falcon
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Does this mean Hydration can rest?

formal crystal
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he's ot not mt

worn falcon
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rip Hydration then

formal crystal
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and crimzo said hydration is back on dps and they have a main tank getting signed for s4

inland flare
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Hydration is not going to play MT

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Ye

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Also joobi
is going to Houston

digital cloud
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piggy confirmed

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yes

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now just get a mt

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also I mentioned it could be an anagram first

limber pine
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wasn't there a main tank rumored

digital cloud
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not that I have heard

limber pine
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or am i misremembering

digital cloud
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maybe there was, idk

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there aren't many options

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well, there are

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but not many viable options

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some people were saying super

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pretty sure that wasn't serious

next mesa
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OGE

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I bet

digital cloud
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he would be a decent pickup

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not that great, but better than hydration

next mesa
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OGE is better than Muze is of right now

solar bison
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What if halo isnt predicting pickups but instead he throws out random pickups and teams go and try to pick up those players

next mesa
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ah yes the puppet master

digital cloud
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I was under the impression Muze was better than OGE

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also that is a stupid idea

next mesa
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no

earnest leaf
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Dpei's thing was that muze has a higher peak

inland flare
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Jjanggu is going to the outlaws

earnest leaf
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I think

next mesa
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direct quote from dpei interview

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He thinks muze orisa is better

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oge better at like rein and monkey I think

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and muze has the POTENTIAL to pass oge so yeah higher peak

inland flare
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GBS might go to the gladiatord

digital cloud
solar bison
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Yes

inland flare
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Jjanggu is here

next mesa
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oh fuck me

inland flare
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It's confirmed

next mesa
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typo oopsies

inland flare
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By the H-town

earnest leaf
next mesa
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who

raw ermine
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jjanu 2.0

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jk

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talon esport tank

rare flint
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Is Danteh a DPS player or a support player? I see him play both proficiently

digital cloud
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dps

rare flint
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Alright

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Thanks

digital cloud
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jjanggu used to be a dps, it seems

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interesting that he is being signed as a tank

worn falcon
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JJanggu MT from Talon

next mesa
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oo

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yeah so tank duo

raw ermine
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so they got synergy

next mesa
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from talon

true hound
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bro i fr thought they signed jjanu

digital cloud
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jjanu would have been sweet

noble nexus
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super said Talon were one of the better teams they scrimmed during GF so I'm assuming Houston made good pickups

next mesa
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yep

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I remember crusty saying they scrimmed against a super allstar team that included hanbin on sig and twilight on ana

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that was really funny

jovial pagoda
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qwerty

earnest leaf
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and I think they had xzi scrimming against them aswell

next mesa
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yeah

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O2 Blast players. My students Neko and Kalios. Faith (WGS Phoenix MS) helped us out as well as a main healer, a lot of other people helped us. Arrow, Cr0ng, Chara as well for one scrim session each. The last internal scrim was very tough since we had an all-star lineup. We lost a few times against Architect on Hanzo, Xzi on Widow, Hanbin Sigma, Smurf Hog, and Twilight Ana. The rigour of our internal scrims helped us prepare. In internal scrims, Smurf was really good at hog, even better than Super.

worn falcon
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Better than Super ZaryaLUL

earnest leaf
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that roster is nasty ngl

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Architect/xzi/smurf/hanbin/twilight

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Probably would of done better than philly

next mesa
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yeah

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lmao in internal scrims smurf has better hog

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I wonder what happened

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nerves ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿ‘ˆ

earnest leaf
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playstyle differences maybe

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maybe super's hog worked better with the zen

next mesa
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you know how they said they played the meta wrong

earnest leaf
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yea

next mesa
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I wonder what would happen if you replace viol2t zen with twilight ana

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might've still won

earnest leaf
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would of still won

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might of won so more maps though

next mesa
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actually

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I dont know

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crusty says

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he thinks zen tracer is just better on control

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if you take off the zen

earnest leaf
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it's hard to tell ngl

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since viol2t is a fucking chad and striker is aswell

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so they could just alpha over them on control especially

next mesa
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facts

earnest leaf
next mesa
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Q: Any players that stood out on other teams?
A: Bdosin. The sniper battle was about even, but on Havana, Bdosin kept flanking to get nades in like GRB (Korean streamer). We thought they had actually subbed GRB in.

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who's that

raw ermine
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formerly with OZ gaming

worn falcon
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huh

raw ermine
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kinda a fringe contenders korea team

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they were the team that had one player arrested for

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dreamkazp and mouffin related things

limber pine
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who da fak is skewed

cobalt spoke
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The thing is twilight couldve gottwn the job done on ana I bet

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Best ana in the league

trail perch
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I was just checking peoples senses on liquipedia

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And haksal played one 800cpi with 26.5 igs

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How tf

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his genji and tracer where closer to 30

true hound
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yep

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he has super good control

trail perch
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But that seems basically impossible

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I have a hard time controlling 15 sens with 800 dpi

next mesa
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yes

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haksal just built diff

trail perch
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Haksal might have been the most mechanicley gifted player ever

next mesa
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too bad titans management is like haha u want career

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"no"

cobalt spoke
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Fuck titans org

next mesa
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fuck titans org

trail perch
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NYXL did sign him tho

next mesa
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I hope they spend the rest of owl's history just absolutely flopping

cobalt spoke
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I'm waiting for shock to shit on them again next season

trail perch
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But he never recovered the same magic

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He was never as good as he was in contenders

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or in apex

next mesa
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when he's surrounded by his teammates you mean

trail perch
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yeah

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But he never had like a huge dps popoff in owl, only a little bit of doom

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I wish he had more time

true hound
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fool

trail perch
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Saya was rly good

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Prob the best simple widow duelist

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But not very flexable

true hound
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nah, his tracking hitscan was insanely good as well

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he just never played it in OWL

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but if you look at his ranked soldier & tracer, its dafran-tier tracking

trail perch
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Does he stream?

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Either valorent or ow

raw ermine
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saya?

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he is a prof valorant player

trail perch
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yeah

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does he stream?

raw ermine
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idk

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but i'd imagine its not ow

cobalt spoke
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Ans would of beaten saya

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โœŠ

trail perch
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Not in the duel

cobalt spoke
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Yes in the duel

true hound
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@cobalt spoke cap on that shit

trail perch
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Ans isnt the best duelist in owl

true hound
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ye diem kinda

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smacked him around

trail perch
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rn its prob diem

true hound
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also widow 1v1s are fucking dumb measure of aim considering its all really small movements because widow is slow when scoped in

trail perch
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But I think saya would have beat diem

next mesa
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Diem

trail perch
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Im only talking about the duel, not overall skill

next mesa
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the 2 TIME

true hound
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diem is the god

plush grail
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hydration is a way better dps

true hound
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of the1v1s

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probs some plat rando whos only good at widow hs would smash any owl player in widow 1v1 lets b real

trail perch
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Me lol

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Easy

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Diem sit down

true hound
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wait was Fits in the widow tourney

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that man is very good at widow

next mesa
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he is right

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but he eliminated by glister

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lmao

trail perch
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Can we get a Linkzr vs Diem??

next mesa
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bruh

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10-0

trail perch
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I think it would be closer then you think

next mesa
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complete sweep

trail perch
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No I think that the sniper skill gap is less then u think

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Diem would prob win but it would be close

next mesa
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a complete sweep

true hound
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tbf yea

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linkzr kinda has like

next mesa
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absolute stomp

true hound
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the outlaws behind him

next mesa
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okay look

trail perch
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Linkzr's raw skill cap it sooooo high

next mesa
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linkzr could prob beat baconjack

trail perch
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He is just veeeryrryyyy streaky

next mesa
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I bet hecouldn't even beat glister

true hound
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raw aim wise most OWL widows r really good

next mesa
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or fits

true hound
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fits is a chad

trail perch
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Linkzr when he is "on" could prob go even with ans

next mesa
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lol

true hound
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100%

trail perch
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In just the 1v1

true hound
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heโ€™s rlly good

next mesa
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That doesn't say anything

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everyone when they are "on" can hit insane shots

trail perch
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And he could keep it competative against diem

true hound
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i mean dinkzr has potential

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heโ€™s streaky

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but imagine he could like consistently do well

trail perch
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No but linkzr has one of the highest skill caps in owl

true hound
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he did really well S1

weak bolt
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widow comparisons are kind of dumb anyway, there are way too many variables in OW for doing it

true hound
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yea

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most are hella good

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Carpe xzi ans diem fits decay etc etc

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kephrii

trail perch
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lol

weak bolt
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.25 it

next mesa
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kephrii when he's "on" could duel ans too?? like

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it's the consistency

true hound
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Kephrii ainโ€™t on

trail perch
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No, Ans's skill cap it much higher than kephriis

true hound
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Kephrii hasnโ€™t been on for 3 years

next mesa
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do you know what skill cap is

trail perch
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Yes

next mesa
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do you mean the floor or the ceiling

trail perch
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ceiling

next mesa
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obviously

trail perch
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Ans's full potential is just much better than kephrii

next mesa
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i'm not talking about potential

trail perch
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Linkzr is comprable to ans

cobalt spoke
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Not true

next mesa
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no not at all

trail perch
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When he is on, he looks almost unstoppable

next mesa
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yeah

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you look at when he's "on"

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why does that matter if he's almost never on

cobalt spoke
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Ans doesnt have an off

next mesa
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exactly

weak bolt
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How do you even define a skill cap for Widows lol. It's all about long term consistency, not streaks

next mesa
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lmao

trail perch
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He has been getting much more consistant

next mesa
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exactly @weak bolt

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Everyone has streaks on widow

weak bolt
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I'm sure any of the OWL widows have the potential to hit 100% of headshots in a game, doesn't mean they'll do it every map

true hound
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guys dw Linkzr wonโ€™t have to suffer under the outlaws anymore

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he now has the great Vancouver titans

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๐Ÿ‘

trail perch
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Titans LUL

next mesa
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yeah now he has the shittiest org in the league TracerThumbsUp

weak bolt
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From Muma to Shredlock

true hound
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pog

trail perch
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boston...

next mesa
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poggers

true hound
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they shoulda dropped shredlock and kept KSAA

next mesa
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boston is nowhere near titans

true hound
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ksaa was fuckin on 200 ping

next mesa
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they didn't voluntarily sign pedos

true hound
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titans was better than Boston off of cockwave alone (team wise not org wise)

next mesa
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titans chose to not communicate with the korean players

trail perch
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Org wise, I would say that boston is the worst

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titans are secong

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second

true hound
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cockwave on philly ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ฉ Carpe has a partner now

weak bolt
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Boston aren't a 'bad' org, they're just cheap

tropic herald
trail perch
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No they are sooooo shady

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HuK

weak bolt
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Titans were bad because they had a top roster and fucked it up

trail perch
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Boston threw away a top roster

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a top coach

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and refuse to get better

weak bolt
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Boston never had a top roster

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They had Striker to solo carry basically

trail perch
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S1

next mesa
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crusty and striker left

trail perch
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Mistakes

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Gamsu

next mesa
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titans took a big shit on runaway

true hound
trail perch
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Oh who??

next mesa
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Winter

weak bolt
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None of that S1 roster other than Striker is even in OWL any more, they were not top class

true hound
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im guessing sheer cold player or like

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Icy

trail perch
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Who has a good mai

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mei

next mesa
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Coldest is taken

true hound
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mai

trail perch
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shhhh

next mesa
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mai

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my waifu

true hound
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๐Ÿ˜ณ

fringe thicket
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who the fuck are these new Houston players?

trail perch
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talon

next mesa
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really good players

true hound
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jjanu 2: jjangu

fringe thicket
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LMAO

weak bolt
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highly rated Korean contenders talent

true hound
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no way outlaws will mess this up

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right guys

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:))

weak bolt
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They wont mess it up, but they aren't looking like a top team yet

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They're looking around the Justice/Florida/LAG level to me atm

true hound
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Justice is mad stacked

weak bolt
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meh, not really. Decay/Mag sure

true hound
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Fury

weak bolt
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Ok fury too, outside of those 3?

true hound
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the only thing ppl r iffy about is support like

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but idk Washington gm said they were really good

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so who knows

weak bolt
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Closer/Ria/Bebe/Ttuba/Jerry are hardly stacked players

true hound
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oh they have closer

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i forgot

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wait was Closer on gc busan

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Apex S4

weak bolt
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It's like they splurged all their money on 3 players, and then went 'Shit, we need at least 7'

true hound
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pog

tropic herald
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If anyone was confused by the valiant tweet thinking it was a player

weak bolt
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Did mayhem just snipe Valiants announcement lol

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oh wait nope

next mesa
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okay im excited

raw ermine
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"featuring special guest: us"

next mesa
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just like the shanghai cup thing

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in 2 days

weak bolt
tropic herald
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Itโ€™s just NA Shanghai masters

next mesa
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yeah

weak bolt
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He has a point, we'll get a Florida roster by 12th at least lol

tropic herald
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Wait.... we get to see glads roster play

next mesa
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im hoping for a full roster announcement vid

tropic herald
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This does mean that Florida needs to announce some people

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Valiant too

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Are reign missing any spots

weak bolt
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Reign have a roster technically

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I'd expect additions though

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Gator/Hawk/Edison/Sharp/Pelican/Masaa/Lr1s. They don't need much I suppose

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Maybe a 3rd tank and another FS

tropic herald
#

Well really the valiant video says that the showmatch will be with 2021 rosters

next mesa
#

gator and hawk aint it...

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didnt masaa leave

tropic herald
#

So we have a week or so and should know the rosters of those 4 teams

next mesa
#

or am I trippin

tropic herald
#

Masaa still there

next mesa
#

ayt

weak bolt
#

Nah he's still there, he just got totally burnt out at end of S3

next mesa
#

okay dogman left

weak bolt
#

Was Masaa who told people not to vote him for all stars as he wanted time off

tropic herald
#

The way Dogman has been recently I wouldnโ€™t be surprised if he becomes on screen talent

weak bolt
#

Yeah, I could see him making guest appearances on the desk and stuff

gilded dagger
#

whos the kewed guy

wintry kraken
#

the contenders streams are only in spanish and portugese, no english stream ๐Ÿคฆ

weak bolt
quartz cairn
weak bolt
#

Imagine how awful that'd be lol

quartz cairn
raw ermine
#

kuki support?

#

oh no

noble nexus
#

kuki carry

wintry kraken
quartz cairn
gilded dagger
#

who is kewed pls tell me

next mesa
#

I mean who's gonna stop samito

#

exactly

#

its ggs

gilded dagger
#

who is kewed.

weak bolt
#

Skewed is a Korean contenders player, Flex Support

gilded dagger
#

ok

#

thx

noble nexus
#

yeah I assume they're just filling for the chance of getting double fs meta

weak bolt
#

Yeah he looks like a backup FS player, who I assume Dpei sees potential in

next mesa
#

wait who's their other one

weak bolt
#

Shu

gilded dagger
#

is skewed good?

next mesa
#

lmao I forgot glads was the team we were talking about

#

nvm

weak bolt
#

No clue on how good he is. I mean if he was on a Korean Contenders team, chances are he's better than Crimzo at least

gilded dagger
#

hes good than

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bye now

next mesa
#

for sure

#

dude

#

I feel like mayhem is gonna win

#

no cap

weak bolt
#

Sounding a bit like we'll hear more on their roster tomorrow

next mesa
#

circle

#

okay lets analyze 900iq this

weak bolt
#

Honestly I hope they pick up some good players. Mayhem are a team I like to see do well since last year

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MT - oge has 3 circles in it. Fissures can be round

next mesa
#

bumper is thick - his body is a circle

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confirmed

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bumper to mayhem

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thank you, thank you

weak bolt
#

Circling back could mean they're picking up Sideshow again, he did prove to outplay Yaki

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Mayhem also follow him on twitter. Reddit tells me that means he's a potential signing

raw ermine
#

thats a trifecta of signing confirmation

weak bolt
#

Mayhem follow Paintbrush, kinda weird

raw ermine
#

he was on mayhem academy

weak bolt
#

Ah that makes sense

next mesa
#

paintbrush isn't getting signed after that video man

weak bolt
#

Maybe they're going to circle back and Tviq is turning the bus around. Xepher, Zebbosai and Cwoosh all to return

noble nexus
#

Xepher

#

lole

worn falcon
#

Samito and Jay3

vagrant jacinth
#

Seeing those old player names brings big nostalgia for season 1 lmao

#

Idk what to expect from the houston/lag signings

cobalt spoke
#

Nero went 5-0 today

silk frost
#

is jjangu korean hydration

digital cloud
#

sort of looked like it

#

according to outlaws he is quite mechanically gifted

next mesa
#

I mean

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samito is better than the fury carpe jjonak 3 stack

forest raven
#

Samito needs to stop whining

worn falcon
#

*drink

next mesa
#

yeah he was extremely drunk god it's so hilarious

raw ermine
#

I'd like to see him dunk on a sfs trio

#

striker smurf viol2t

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vs pine in goats?

#

pathetic

next mesa
#

for samito that's a walk in the park

earnest leaf
#

I don't want to deal with cringe ass t2 egotistical players trio stacking and turbo tryharding

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or gm od players

trail perch
#

Bring back NYXL 3 stacks

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Its content

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Also I want to see shock 3 stacks

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Super, Ans, viol2t

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I want to see dallas 3 stacks

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Fearless Sp9rk1e Fielder

silk frost
#

Samito is a bitch with a point

trail perch
#

yes

silk frost
#

dude that'd be spooky

#

fearless sp9rk1e Fielder

trail perch
#

To see a monkey and nano genji diving me in ranked

silk frost
#

uh oh stinky

trail perch
#

It would be soooo fun to watch

#

maybe mano, carpe, alarm...

#

void fleta leejaegon????

karmic grotto
#

Dragons?

silk frost
#

oh no

trail perch
#

These would be so fun to watch

#

So they should add six stacks

#

Imagine facing the entire shock as a solo queue team

silk frost
#

they should have a stack queue

trail perch
#

YESSSSS

raw ermine
#

They need a "good player" server

trail perch
#

I would six stack against the shock

raw ermine
#

with OWL and contenders players only

trail perch
#

propugs?

silk frost
#

lol I agree

trail perch
#

bring back pro pugs

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give us all star games every week

silk frost
#

but I've had the stack queue idea for a couple years now

trail perch
#

but 6 stacking in gold on my smurf with my friends is so fun

karmic grotto
#

Tomorrow

#

We gonna see some real overwatch since the grand finals

raw ermine
#

what's tomorrow? gauntlet starts?

next mesa
#

no tomorrow i'm streaming myself playing hence Adriel saying we'll finally see some real overwatch

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also

#

who picking up Revenge bb

plush light
#

Who the hell is skewed?

balmy wolf
#

karq more like motorcycleq

raw ermine
#

skewed is flex support from oz gaming

#

a low tier KR contenders team

silk frost
#

good potential I think

#

I remember thinking that Skewed was one of the bright spots of that team

tawdry hamlet
#

Tbh why don't all the shock just 6 stack and crush ladder for lolz lmao

#

I mean I imagine it's a relatively even playing field at that level but it'd be funny af to get in a game against a pro starting lineup lol

balmy wolf
#

yea and thats why they removed stacking in gm in the 1st place

tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
#

its instant lose if pros are triple stacking

tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
#

was fun while it lasted

tawdry hamlet
#

At least they can duo and all q at the same time to likely land together lmaoo

#

I was watching a pro stream and it was like the same 5 players over and over each game with very few changes

tidal ridge
#

wtf

next mesa
#

Don't be a pussy doe

#

Just destroy nyxl 3 stack

#

Samito eats fury jjonak carpe for breakfast

#

Apparently they have a contract

#

Where they can't do more than 3 stack in ranked

trail perch
#

Those old NYXL 3 stacks where so fun to watch

#

Especially that game with calvin on volskaya

tawdry hamlet
#

Speaking of jjonak

#

I bought the jjonak signed g403 FUCKYEAH

#

It was 59.99 on fanatics rather than 150 from owl site tho

#

No way I'd spend 150 on a 50 dollar mouse because it's been signed lmao

#

But I wanted a different mouse anyway and I love jjonak so win-win truetrue

#

Blowing Christmas money go brr

#

Also Piggy a big ol pickup for outlaws, I imagine piggy being fan favorite in the future lowkey

#

We stan piggy

#

Happy and piggy looking like some nice pickups for outlaws

#

What I really hope is that happy is more consistent in the hitscan than Linkzr, Linkzr is nutty but sometimes blows the shots someone like ans or diem or carpe would hit

#

Hoping Crimzo Boink support line isn't a handicap but it could be potentially

trail perch
#

Boink is a handycap

tawdry hamlet
#

Crimzo might be too tbh

trail perch
#

stop

#

insulting the king

#

Crimzo is canadian king

#

Best western FS

tawdry hamlet
#

Tbh I can't name any super notable western supports besides like moth lmao

#

Like there's fdgod but he's eu ethnically

#

Still western I guess

tidal ridge
#

boink? handicap?

#

tbh who else could houston sign for main support tho

#

everything is pretty sturdy besides that role (you could also argue crimzo but i think hes fine)

next mesa
#

Ah yes the mediocre king

#

Also Happy is way better than Linkzr

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah for sure

#

Good upgrade

tidal ridge
#

all theyre missing is a main supp-

WELCOME BACK BOINK

tawdry hamlet
#

Idk who they could sign other than contendies dudes or some asian free agent king so I don't mind Boink especially since as good as a lineup happy dante is I doubt they'll break top 5 with all the stacked rosters next season

next mesa
#

The best ms in china isn't picked up

tawdry hamlet
#

Who would that be?

tidal ridge
#

houston wouldnt sign a chinese player tho would they

tawdry hamlet
#

I don't follow china players much honestly

#

The best chinese hitscan isn't picked up either right levy ZenyattaCry sadthonk

#

Missing Diya in owl

#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

next mesa
#

I forgot it's diyas teammare

next mesa
#

An absolute travesty

tidal ridge
#

Superich?

next mesa
#

Yeah

#

Him

tidal ridge
#

xzi says jimmy

next mesa
#

I forgot his name

#

Might be jimmy

tawdry hamlet
#

I just wanna see how Diya compares after a benched season and contenders success on top of being a god in like 2017 loll

next mesa
#

Honest diya might've done worse in trials or something

#

But honestly let's be honest

#

Diya is king

tidal ridge
#

Diya smurfs in contendies for a bit then gets picked up mid-season OkayChamp

next mesa
#

Fusion don't even do trials

#

They look at official games

tawdry hamlet
#

Wait really? They sign people off games themselves and not any sort of trialing?

#

I mean fair enough for players like shockwave but kind of big risky

tidal ridge
#

what is trialing

#

OWL wise

balmy wolf
#

its a scrim thats important

tawdry hamlet
#

Also after trying to learn echo I have now concluded that shockwave is inhuman

#

Damn just remembered paris still hasn't announced anyone yet

#

So excited for the dog ass games of boston vs paris or vancouver ZaryaLUL

balmy wolf
#

boston vs houston was the worst one

#

7 maps

tawdry hamlet
#

Loll

#

Ngl as good as hurricane are, I don't know if they'll find a lot of success taking the place of london roster

hidden vault
#

Houston is literrally gonna be the bottom

tawdry hamlet
#

Nah, it's gonna be vancouver for sure

#

Their current talent isn't it chief

#

Linkzr Dalton dps line lolol

#

And fire on support is kind of FoulCretin

earnest leaf
#

Toilet bowl was the best match

#

titans are gonna be worse than boston I think

tawdry hamlet
#

Me too, boston may not be good but they're all veterans plus im37 and stand1 are big upgrades I think

#

Paris could potentially be worse if they go vancouver and sign a low mid tier contenders roster lol

next mesa
#

I think they can easily piece up a decent roster with just contenders talent

#

Titans? You got roolf and hredlock on your team buddy

plush grail
#

Cumlock

tawdry hamlet
#

I think they might be able to but who knows how good it'll be, im just glad so much talent spread out so we can't see who the clear dominant team is besides shock pepega

#

Then again last season people probably felt the same way only to watch 3 teams rule everyone OmegaLUL

plush grail
#

shock is boston tier

next mesa
#

Oh yeah

next mesa
plush grail
#

Ok let's discuss real shit

#

If every team just had to fight in 6 v 6 fistfights

#

Who would win

next mesa
#

Me

tawdry hamlet
#

Hmm, I could see one of the bigger players throwing some fat haymakers

plush grail
#

Profit dominates in game but would he be any good in a fistfight

tawdry hamlet
#

Like uh, whoever that guy on liquidpedia is that has in his trivia section his favorite food is korean chicken

#

One of the bigger korean guys I don't even remember the name now lmao

plush grail
#

Kinda boosts my confidence, sure profit could clap me in game but I could beat him up easily

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
#

yeah fuck you profit

tawdry hamlet
#

Feel bad about owl players being better at the game than you, just beat them up then smh ez dubs

next mesa
#

dude I feel like striker could fuck me up with all that mcdonalds

plush grail
#

Who was it that ordered a fucked up hamburger from McDonald's

#

Either someone from shock or titans ordered a fucked up hamburger and dropped it after like 3 bites

tawdry hamlet
#

Oh god speaking of food remember when salt n straw made the nyxl branded korean fried chicken ice cream FoulCretin

plush grail
#

What the fuck

#

Chicken ice cream

#

You're joking right

tawdry hamlet
silk frost
#

um-

tawdry hamlet
#

What a time to be alive

plush grail
#

this is the reason why nyxl fell apart

tawdry hamlet
#

Lmaoo

plush grail
#

Imagine serving your fans chicken ice cream

#

We suffer enough

tawdry hamlet
#

Ah it was dreamer from valiant that likes fried chicken

#

Well I could imagine he could beat me up lmao

#

Man now I wanna know what that ice cream tastes like lmao

plush grail
#

It tastes like 3 seasons of downwards going performances

tawdry hamlet
#

Pain

#

Lmao

plush grail
#

The hat is clean tho

tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
#

Also apparently it's the one month mark before teams have to have a signed roster

#

or a 7 man starting roster

#

Reign/Hunters/Fuel/Charge/Spark/Glads/Fusion/Shock/Dynasty/Dragons/Defiant/Justice all have 7+ man rosters ready to go

tawdry hamlet
#

Rewatching fearless monkey vs dynasty and bruh

#

he is god, but iziyaki straight pocketing this man lowkey

#

hmm I would ask in #overwatch-serious for a more defined answer but frustration breeding bad comms is a very common issue for me in ladder at least

#

not that I know of any great solution lmao

silk frost
tawdry hamlet
#

morale hypeman is a big role bro

#

but fr imagine being a pro esports hype man

#

that would be a life

true hound
#

should just be dafran

#

Screaming lets fucking go dude

cobalt spoke
#

Watching dallas vs shock is going to be good

#

I'm hoping for monkey meta

tawdry hamlet
#

smurf v fearless monke duel

#

๐Ÿ’

hot heart
#

I just want brawl and dive meta next yeae

#

Super just fucks and wins 2021 MVP

noble nexus
#

I think he ordered it with no bun or no patty and then dropped it instantly

balmy wolf
#

oh he eats the burger with chopsticks

#

iirc

earnest leaf
#

Apparently viol2t also has eaten a burger with two cups

#

also paris wouldn't be competitive vs shock in dive imo, the dps and supp gap is too large for the heroes

#

well depends what the 2nd dps would be

#

since striker tracer is just op

balmy wolf
#

we talking about old paris?

earnest leaf
#

fuck I mean dallas

hot heart
earnest leaf
#

true

hot heart
#

With a different support line and MT

#

But basically paris

#

I think in a dive meta

#

It depends on the Dps

#

And the MS

earnest leaf
#

in a dive meta they should be solid

#

but probably not beating out shd/philly/shock

hot heart
#

Idk about philly

#

Its possible they could lose to dallas in a dive meta

earnest leaf
#

Basically if tracer is meta during a dive meta dallas would not have fun

hot heart
#

Yeah

earnest leaf
#

unless one of them whips out a thicc tracer

hot heart
#

Rush said in one of his Q&A's

#

He's constantly telling sp9rk1e and doha to learn tracer

#

He thinks sp9rk1e has the better tracer as of rn

#

Which is kinda interesting

#

But i mean

#

Sp9rk1e is very talented

balmy wolf
#

dallas has all the pieces in dive

#

when they were in a dive meta, rush read the meta wrong pretty hard and they lost in the countdown cup pretty easily

#

but it doesnt mean they cant play dive

earnest leaf
#

they also had nosmite on winston

balmy wolf
#

that too

#

u weret gonna get anywhere with him

#

but with fearless then u got one of the best winstons

earnest leaf
#

yea so a dive vs shock, tank would be a 50/50 on who's better

balmy wolf
#

the tanklines aint making a diff

#

its the support diff thats important in dive

cobalt spoke
#

If its just dive shock vs dallas is like 52/48 or something

#

If its a tracer mirror shock just wins

next mesa
#

I mean

#

How is hanbins dva

#

We know choi is like top tier

cobalt spoke
#

I'm being generous

next mesa
#

Monkey

#

I'm a fearless fanboy

#

I'd say they're about equal tho

#

Maybe fearless primal a bit better

cobalt spoke
#

No

next mesa
#

Okay dive

#

Tracer

#

Striker wins

#

On ashe ans wins

#

Widow hard to say

cobalt spoke
#

Ans still wins

next mesa
#

Hard to say

#

Wait did xzi participate

#

In widow tourney

cobalt spoke
#

No

#

Idk

#

What about echo dive?

#

Ohh wait

#

Nero exists

next mesa
#

How is his echo

#

Eileen played echo this year

cobalt spoke
#

Nero had visa issues and didnt get coached by crusty

next mesa
#

We still don't know how is echo is

cobalt spoke
#

Next season he doesn't have either if those

next mesa
#

I think doha played echo

#

He's like

#

Decent i guess idk I don't remember much lol

cobalt spoke
#

And just looking at him playing a little ranked he's kindof cracked

#

Shock has all the heroes in the game atleast covered

next mesa
#

With nero now yeah

#

Actually

#

How is his doom

#

And genji

cobalt spoke
#

We have guai lo for those

#

Nero's doom is pretty good

next mesa
#

Guai lo??

cobalt spoke
#

Ta1yo

next mesa
#

I'll have to see on ta1yo I'm just not sold on him yet u feel me

cobalt spoke
#

Ta1yo can just become a genji otp

#

Or pick up the new heroes

next mesa
#

Coaches seem to think he's like pretty weak mechanically but crusty likes really vocal players and he's very vocal

cobalt spoke
#

He'll find his niche

#

What else does shock need?

next mesa
#

They're good

#

I still think libero would've been better but ๐Ÿ˜”

cobalt spoke
#

Nero wanted to be on shock so bad

#

Libero didnt

hot heart
#

I feel like libero got another opportunity

#

Idk who that would be

#

But he must've

silk frost
#

all I'm saying is that you aren't allowed to be a fearless fanboy unless you liked him in season 1

#

jk no gatekeeping here

karmic grotto
#

Shanghai Dragons in s1 were so bad

vocal jewel
#

lol is geguri still on sd

tawdry hamlet
#

no

#

anyone watching?

#

ah yes team diya vs team 800

#

yay

#

Next Match is hunters vs spark and then charge vs dragons

#

is this tourney going to be played with new rosters I presume? Sorry I didn't really hear much about it

karmic grotto
tawdry hamlet
#

ngl be kind of sick if I had any idea what they were saying lmao

hot heart
hot heart
#

Chengdu's lineup

tawdry hamlet
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

#

also how tf in bilibili do you disable the on screen chat lmao

#

I cannot for the life of me find it

hot heart
#

Idk

shell forum
#

hes named after a pokemon??

hot heart
#

Never used it

tawdry hamlet
shell forum
#

LMAO

tawdry hamlet
#

but I have no idea how to navigate bilibili

hot heart
#

Holy

#

Yeah idk man

tawdry hamlet
#

well for future reference there is a button in the bottom right lmao

#

Excited to see new apac rosters face off tho

hot heart
#

Yeah me too

hot heart
tawdry hamlet
#

oh yeah baby my mans is here

#

les go ameng

#

guxue vs ameng ball is going to be entertaining watch

#

guxue just vibn doe

#

ok even with their new pickups architect is kind of running all over kaneki on tracer lol

#

interesting

sullen berry
#

if you're using chrome the built in translator is close enough

tawdry hamlet
#

the bottom right buttons didn't translate and I didn't want to click each one lmao but tis all good

sullen berry
#

the middle one with the gear icon is apparently on/off

#

have they been swapping a bunch

#

they like bernar which is impresive enough

#

this should be a very stacked roster next year and I can see it

#

but not when you're up against Chad Ameng

tawdry hamlet
#

ngl new chengdu still looks kind of ass

sullen berry
#

that's to be expected with half the teams this tournament

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah lol

#

first real tourney

sullen berry
#

they don't have as much on the line to build them up

tawdry hamlet
#

with new rosters

#

that too

sullen berry
#

Ga9a i though was meh

tawdry hamlet
#

architect was slapping

sullen berry
#

i think that's who they're calling "orangutan"

tawdry hamlet
#

lmao I have no idea on any of the commentary I just kind of go with it

sullen berry
#

I'm just interpreting the bilibili chat

tawdry hamlet
#

ah fair

sullen berry
#

it can be equally as toxic though

#

"M1KA is fat"

tawdry hamlet
#

I haven't really been bothering with anything other than seeing the players play as early as possible because owl 4 is so far away

sullen berry
#

at least you can see the sponsorships are on point here

#

you've got what looks like a mobile phone, philips, credit card company, a rideshare company plus monster lmoa

#

more sponsors onscreen than cheez-its and pringles wavy

tawdry hamlet
#

isn't this whole event like a mobile game tourney or something

#

lmao

sullen berry
#

yeah

#

the past three tournaments before this today were for mobile games

tawdry hamlet
#

I always heard mobile games were big over there, just had no idea which ones since they don't use google or anything iirc

#

idk though

#

like google play at least lol

sullen berry
#

brb creating a bilibili account using translate

tawdry hamlet
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

#

ooh elsa on da field what he gon do