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They literally just restacking 
5 dps go brr
Also how TF did fire find a team lmao
Vancouver mad desperate
their parent org is very rich
Yeah
not sure why most orgs are still in OWL though
i really doubt their breaking the salary cap
Is there a salary cap?
london went budget this year
one would think they lost enough money from the buy in
shock has a lot of leverage this year over contracts for players wanting in
I mean tbf, they've won 2 champs in a row, they might as well go all in on owl
a player could easily want less if they have a chance at winning
which gives more winnings
yeah, but they didn't even make up the buy in from winnings
Huh
not sure how much sponsorships are paying, but I can't think it is that much
That should prolly change if shock can make a team like this off of it
nrg has money from other games, true, but owl doesn't seem profitable
That too, im sure they're aware they'll play a lot less and probably took the DeMarcus cousins approach of less money for the champ 
LoL isn't, and neither is dota or csgo
which is where most of these orgs made it big
Those games have also been relevant for ten years vs overwatch barely surviving 3 
thats only the cream of the crop who reasonable make decent profits
but most esports orgs get investor money
my point is, I don't really see a future with owl at this point
is OW2 really gonna boost numbers that much?
But tbh, idk if owl will ever be profitable
Yeah
I can't possibly see sponsors and like 300 people homestands covering 40 mil buy ins lmao
the only real reason owl is gonna die is if blizz says it themselves
theres always gonna be companies who buy shit just for the sake of it
well most of these teams are own by orgs who have hundreds of millions in cash
esports is a blip in their company
I mean, I am not saying the companies are gonna fail due to it
but continually shoveling money in also isn't a good idea
if nothing comes of it
u could say the same for almost every esport besides dota and lol
its never gonna reach lol levels but regardless for the small companies in it, its more than enough
if owl doesnt get a gradual increase in popularity with ow2, then its just go back to niche markets
primarly the asian market
Esports is also advertising tho and you have to account for the money in that department as well
that is how they make money at all, except in the case of pots based off of in game purchases, maybe, or in homestands
most of it is online and thus advertising
Is glister good?
Yeah because this should be a source of revenue for the owners
Pog
Does anyone know any try hard servers I can go to? I wanna start scrimming with teams and stuff
maybe just in case ow2 heroes become meta
If you get to a high enough rank, you can probably get tryouts with contenders/Open Division teams
If you're serious about playing professionally
you dont want to get fucked because an ow2 hero becomes meta and you dont have a player to flex to it
#lf-players-na also has people recruiting
put your info there and maybe a team will invite you
there are some pugs servers, idk which one tho
I don't wanna play professionally but I wanna play at high level in scrimms. I'm serious and don't like wasting time with shit team recruitments.
But thanks
find pugs servers then
u have no obligation to a team
Yeah that's what I'm asking for
i know jayne servers setups weekly pugs
the closest here are the lfgs
I do wanna team but getting on a team is tidus I'll probably make my own team
i dont think we have like real teams and shit with money usually
u can look in streamer's discords
maybe they got stuff there
Someone just link me stuff, and I'll try Jaynes server I guess.
Yeah sad
RJH for Val
ew
Let's fucking go
pog
wow guys SF shock pulled an SF shock
What?
They signed gilster
Thats it
I'm happy diem is back on dragons
Seeing him go to a bad team to become irrelevant would be so sad
MOTHERFUCKERS PULLED AN EQO LMAO
Alr
So
Shock dps line
Then SHD dps line
For sure
Erster Fleta Diem Lip
What the fuck
Shock dps line might be better that last year
5 dps players = specializing = alot of top tier players on there heroes
just by having a 5th dps cements them as having the strongest dps line
it was the same case during the beginning of season 3
yes, however the only real advantage i'd give to dragons is the projectile dps
they have 2 great ones
shock only has 1 hard projectile while glister is a flex
They have fleta the best flex and then 2 hitscans that can rival ans and striker
Weakness doe tracer
overall its just more players for the sake of it
theres gonna be a few teams who'll rival the team clutchness and great fundamentals shock have
interesting titans roster
Like people say dallas is going to be so good
But its literally just paris with 1 downgrade and 1 upgrade
It's literally just paris plus fearless and the other guy lmao, they will no doubt be good but like idk if dominating shanghai or Shock good
The 3rd and fourth spots are going to be hype to watch
Like glads fusion spark all tryna get it
Now who's finna sign stand1 
valiant mayhem
Hmm wonder if dreamer will stay on valiant
And if they make any real pickups
But aren't they trying to sell or something
idk
if titans sign a better main tank and potentially a better flex support i'd honestly trust them to be better than the bad teams this year
If titans spent money on someone like stand 1 I'd nutttt
They should cop paintbrush

nah i dont think they should sign a korean player
chaser is already playing?
yeah
who even are IR
by the way this was a WGS team with im37 and Aztac
they're just a mediocre chinese team
like they're a chinese team that people think chinese teams are
them and FFF went 0-6 lol
do they have a liquipedia page
yes]
@silk frost what's that bracket u sent?
NetEase tournament
ah
better meme interview with JIMMY since Reinforce interviewed Reinhardt on Volskaya
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Arhh yes diem
Would be stupid not to resign him
But i hope they resign diya tho
Then they could do a 4-2 with molly
o god
i introduced one of my 6 stack to overwatch league
she plays sigma
now shes calling choi daddy
what do i do
Run
join in
that's his new name
since another choi got signed into owl
@Avast_o I can honestly tell you we (Shock) were not anywhere near the high bidder for any of the players we signed.
445
for the people complaining about the shock winning the offseason because they have more money
some people rather want the better team than getting paid the money
throwing money around won't get you a super star team
I mean tbf, that isn't entirely true lmao
the gsw threw down like 30 mil for kd and then won finals with him
well, were their coaches good?
washington yoinked decay and went from 12th to 4th with some moneys
Because Roar didn't play

Eventually it became a handicap
lol
Without a main tank, they can't go far
But
You saw how much they improved
How much space the dps got
S4 is going to be interesting for sure
Erster diem reunited
pog
he says he failed open tryouts and was never reached out to privately
wtf
idk how high the open tryouts expectations were or if he was having a bad day but I definitely thought he'd get a team
I honestly don't know many people in his role that were LFT and are better than him
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Boston, florida, houston
boink had his 2021 option declined
rip
so unless there's been an update, he's a free agent
houston might actually be good now
i mean they have 3 dps and crimzo signed
crimzo and happy are upgrades (or at least sidegrades)
happy is absolutely an upgrade
he's more consistent
they're already making better steps imo
because they're owned by an org now that actually wants to do something
fair enough
it's insane how terribly some orgs can do with some players
it's like they don't understand the esport
but you do
is crimzo an upgrade over rapel doe
IMO it's hard to tell due to the cluster that was Houston last year
true
he'll be consistently mediocre if he plays like he did on dallas
but then again dallas was a struggling team last season
he might even do better
I think yall are sleeping on the insane amount of skill that crimzo had
He managed to stand out on a team as bad as dallas
This year we will see smth special
yeah
you can't talk about any player on that dallas team standing out without mentioning decay or doha
the dps line was the carrying that team
if u replace decay with xzi on this year's dallas it would've been 👌
They would have done worse
considering decay didn't even want to play with the team
I believe that is decidedly false
what did dallas do to not let decay play with them?
I meant like if dallas managed to kept decay
Didn’t Diem get released? Now signed back?
Ye
the future 3 timer widow 1v1 champion dude
b omegalul ston
According to sources, the Boston Uprising are supposedly set to sign former Shanghai Dragons Main Tank Ji-Won "Stand1" Seo
once again, Houston misses out on a mt
Big pickup
I like how the gif did need explaining
GB
I think his orisa prob behind smurf
boston full korean by next year
maybe sado
He synced up with SHD faster than any other Chinese OWL team during their team preview tournament this time last year
Nero Cr0ng and Neptuno looked shaky in the preseason so I think Stand1 will have another burnout period with their roster if coaching doesn't play the role he needs
I gotta know how coach Lori will work on this refreshed uprising
second off tank, or second MS

prob off tank
bc we know twilight can cover for fdgod on brig
and viol2t can do it on bap
and most people are worse than him on lucio/mercy
What's this, Uprising actually wanting to be more competitive?
yet they kept chex
Chex isn’t even that bad it’s just the fact that they rely on him as a main flex
yeah
?? Fdgod's brig is bettwr than twilights anyway
Just in case
Crusty said he liked twilights brig playstyle more
This one ought to get you on your feet. Stand up & cheer for our newest teammate, @Stand1! #BostonUp
We all knew
I've been saying it
FOR A LONG TIME
Boston 2021 will be good
since before playoffs
Boston not 20th anymore
Mineral replaced by Lori triggered it
get like valentine from wgs instead of chex
a lot of unsigned contenders talent
wait boston is being coached by lori?
oh they made be not last place next season
Yeah if you're sleeping on Lori
You will regret coming into season 4, he's the latest hot coaching prospect this coming season since KuKi. With good ties to WGS Phoenix
who
bruh
the best girl support player
well itw ould be huge pr
but
aren't they like korean
best girl player in OW
it's either Aspen or Geguri for that yeah
but Boston are currently split half way between korea and west
i'm so hyped to see what daans is gonna do
if you think about it
he's had player for ? in his bio for a long time
choi is gonna play in all the important matches anyway
HighBee is a pretty good off tank in Contenders
if Shock speak english, that'll be a good player
shock doesn't speak english
they speak korean
and super just makes monkey noises for comms
oo oo oo oo
More contenders skins?
hana dul set
I think stand1 officially puts vancouver or paris at the bottom of next season now

Vancouver is going to be so bad 😩 
Linkzr isn't consistent enough to carry that hard loll
Assuming they buy a good support and don't cheap out and then they bench one of their shitty tanks for stand1 like 24/7 they have a real lower mid tier shot

Bro if boston bought tobi 
If they got slime and one more dps I'd fucking cream bro
Lori seems to be hinting at some big pickups
They could literally buy themselves top 7 at this point depending on new heroes that is
I just hope they buy someone good, like even someone mid like stitch would be fat
molanran and Assassin are two good players in tendies so
Valentine

Oh not this again
they need a mei/tracer type player
Don’t sign Diya
He got good tho
so did Diya
Diya is diybad
Diya is very good wdym?
DIya is literally called the "King of China"
Yeah we’ll see when he doesn’t get signed
That doesn’t mean he’s bad?
only chinese teams risk chinese players
^
Racism in OWL
Diya’s options are very limited and if a team has already signed a hit scan, that also lowers his chances.
And it’s not really racism?
it's not racism it's just a gamble to get chinese players in most GM's eyes, since chinese players struggle with korean
Oh ok I misunderstood
^
even though they generally speak english fine
example: Diya on Houston could make for a sick double hitscan pair with Happy
Diya is a highly skilled player so just don’t shit on him?
he's playing amazing in contenders, he's probably the best hitscan there and has been since Cockwave and Kevster were signed
Diya is at like dantehs level from what im hearing
Cockwave
Maybe even better
We’ll see
You can look at any of his gameplay and see hes not shit?
I'd say Diya is around the level of Stitch, probably a bit above
considering the playoff run stitch
that level
So pretty good
maybe above, maybe below
But not top level
but that should be his average
yeah
worse than your Happys, your Diems, and your Ans'
but better than players like Linkzr, Leave, Sharp, maybe about similar to (or better than) Edison
at least based on Edison's OWL 2020 preformance
I think Birdring is above him slightly
but that's because of how high I rate him rather than how low I rate Fits

he dominated ans on havana that one map during the playoffs
And on hollywood
Well also their first match around
Diem on Busan was 😩
Was pogchamp
So sadge shanghai comeback arc was ended short by profit 
Also sadge that after a whole ass season of fearless void domination they run stand 1 lip diem over anything else they had
No fleta 
True
I mean im sure stand1 maybe had the better sigma but over fearless and void idk
At least I think he played sig I barely remember lmao
True true
Honestly fearless hog was good? Like they beat seoul on like 2 maps using that same comp in apac finals
Maybe his ball is trash
I think this meta stretched into the one set of heroes they didn't really have, they owned the winston dive and double shield and sniper metas they just didn't have a ball hog setup, or gesture just out hogged them every chance they had
If they ran stand1 hog when other teams have gesture and smurf when hogs a key part of the meta I guess the loss makes sense
Gesture + creative nanos
Also it looked like
Fleta wasn't that comfortable on hanzo
Kept switching between him and lip
Vs profit hanzo
Big diff
Diem was really the only one on dragons that looked particularly like in his element on dragons in the finals tbh
Ljg was 
Bro when profit got pharah ult in like 20 seconds of gameplay that was nuts
Best pharah
And that genji gibraltar play was nuts too
Just annoys me to no end seoul has players like that but continues to be so meh
Don’t know if this is my brain being stupid but didnt dragons take it to map 5 on both the matches they lost?
And I think seoul were way better in playoffs was because profit and gesture could smell that prize pool.
Coaching
Not very pog
Yeah they lost map 5 to shock as well
Kitty
aww
yes
tbf the shock coaching just absolutely abused the map system and only focused on hybrid and control cuz those were the only ones they won when they had tough games in the playoffs
Nah, soeul was better in playoffs because they had a good meta, that team is good but not that good
Yes the meta was a factor in why they were better but also the fact that profit and gesture always perform better when money is on the line.
^
Boston starting to get good deals again
theres no way they will fuck up this time!!
no way no how
Not what I said
But then why would stand1 go to Boston instead of staying at shanghai
I doubt it's the money
the messages being deleted make it look like Levy is just telling people to shut the fuck up for no reason
l0l
lmao fair enough
considering levy is the resident asshole
facts
keeps it from having to be me
Asshole 😠
my favorite exchange ever
charge your phone headass
Boston could never mess it up!
13th NA and 2 pedos later they are looking super strong !

yes!
both big dick energy
Their only hope
besides stand1
but he is mt so he can't carry as hard as the other 2
well actually was stand1 like top tier mt or just on a top tier team?
his hog was like, maybe third best
actually idk jjanu might have better hog
his orisa imo only behind smurf maybe sado
his ball pretty good I guess
when u can bench fearless on like certain heroes shouldn't be too bad
fair, I find it is hard to gauge main tank skill because the ceiling is kind of low minus like ball and monkey
not saying it is easy
stand1 will be better than fusions at like everything
fr
Guxue 
was he really?
that seems like a stretch even if he is old best monkey lmao
I feel monkey one tricks will be useless next season
which was weird, but the staff probs wanted to make sure it wasn't just titans and shock lol

Smurf exists? 🤨 chatterino open? 🤨
Guxue next year could be a top 5 MT
If spark execute well on integrating the chinese players
He already was imo
Just stuck with meh coaches and meh players
And mega competition
Three what
Dude
What if its dps
I assume it just means 3 pick ups
Not hinting at any specific roles


florida just giving up and deciding to hoard flex dps
Wait did the outlaws release danteh??
No
Xzi thinks jimmy is the best chinese widow
F for diya
#badcoaching
F for gesture, the best widow in the world
They should sign fl0w3r and pine
Bro what if a team signs the former lunatic hai
And implodes
After 1 successful season

Zunba went to valorant
Gambler would fit the mayhem so well
I'm a bronze owl player. 1000 sr
1400 on ana
When ana Lucio was good i was silver
My favorite meta was rein dva mcree mei Lucio ana
Rein metas when rein can take over the game are the best
Wasnt gambler on lw blue?
yeah, along with Luna
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secretly silver
yup
Done bb muah
Tyyyy
Done
Now that i think of it
Eaports merch is kewl
Cuz its more than jerseys and hats
Like irl sports
Omg ye it actually is might invest 😂
Make a sfs keyboard, Q button looks like shatter
Right click mouse has a shield on it
and put super’s anime girl cosplay on the mouse pad
I should be the manager of what products get made
I’d make the company rich
😳
lmao I figured
I wanted to say I bet people like yubo would buy it
where do u get those
like
official owl branded keyboards
or do u need to get some custom shit done
How do u draw an overwatch person?
you TRACE-er
LMAO I AM SO FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...
Soon they’ll have to pick up some from the rank ladder
With probs contenders background
k
Would be nice if they wouldn't delete played games of owl teams
I can't find replays of previous games on the launcher, sad
that's kinda pepega yeah
I like toronto defiant
hey am not smart but why erster sign, doesnt hero already covered?
and cause moon probably wants to mold him into a even better player
plus his tracer is better than fleta
gives fleta more competition for that anyDPS kind of role
seoul/shd/shock have stupidly stacked dps rosters
seoul only needs 2 players 
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but fleta is actually good at echo lul
yeah
profit echo is
we dont talk about it
but profit def better hanzo
prob better pharah
that video plays like an esports roster building tutorial
yes
leejaegon molly probably better duo
@sullen berry any signings or leaks in that video?
izayaki like
molly ana/zen + leejae brig/lucio
I think Izayaki Zen really good
I doubt the difference between izayaki and molly on ana is huge
just a bio for KDG, no players mentioned
But Molly Ana really good
Izayaki good in isolation
They are both really good flex supports
just the team synergy was the biggest crux for an otherwise excellent player to pickup
Isn’t mayhem supposedly getting Slime and OGE
OGE duos with Yaki quite a bit 
like 100%
yeah maybe mayhem
at this point there's not a ton of options
mayhem or outlaws?
that's actually tragic
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benbest didn't even get
Benbest was better than super imo for most of the season
Like better at orisa, and sometimes even rein
If he doesnt get a spot in owl sadge
Lmao Super is Super bad
hey is for horses, and sometimes for cows. Pigs dont eat it cuz they dont know how
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Lol I found one on sale for like 15 dollars online so I bought an agilities 2018 valiant jersey 
True fan boy moment
actually the justice team gave out free copys last week or something
and u just signed for it
so yea pretty ez to get alts these days
I want mayhem gambler
Titans too like 2 days ago
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Make it a round trip across the Pacific West: Dallas, SF,???
at this point rascal's gonna be on toronto, philly, LAV, LAG, and more next season
lmao they pick rascal up on weekly contracts and he plays a series for every single team next season
calling it now
on another note I just bought this for 20 dollars online because agilities fanboi go brr

plus fanatics is doing a massive sale so all the old jerseys are cheap af
wait you can buy autographed pictures of players lmao
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bruh
our god
wit only 7?
god damn
fine ill let u have it

fuck it, big pickup
Kaiser out for an owl spot
You mean Spot on shock
Eye of the Kaiser glistens
Eye of the kaiser part 2
this should make my own earthshatters more effective
but isn't it still debated how inconsistent the shatter landings are esp with payloads and vertical walls?
to replace super after he retires
Super gonna have some good times if Rein becomes meta next season
Pain
Kaiser is gonna fuckin ROLL
also Quartermain could go somewhere as head coach tbh
Moon can be the APAC Crusty
the rivalry could be insane
He pretty much is already yeag
Quatermain to justice or glads
Who’s ur favourite team
who
justice i think
Mayhem (I live in Florida)
shock or nyxl
hangzhou or shanghai
My favourite team is ryujehong
mine is bumper but to each their own
Mine is actually sideshow
i grinded for month cause i didnt realize joining a team was pc only..
Easy fav team is surefours hair
But legit prob dallas or washington
with spark after that for my king SMS
you like toronto?
I've been a shock fan since s1 and started to like London more this season cuz I'm from the uk
also a glads fan cuz I'm a big fan of their players
they're like my top 3
My favorite team is team CC
Diya?
YES
;-;
I mean is chengdu making more signings?
they signed a hitscan already
Chengdu already finished their roster
yeah they signed jimmy, and they still have leave
I thought shy was flex?
hitscan
Is Shanghai done with their roster?
Shy is technically a flex in that he played flex support for a time then moved to dps
Doesnt shanghai have 4 dps already?
Yes they do
Yes
Erster diem fleta lip
Why would they need another hitscan when they have lip diem and fleta
Yeah they wouldn't
they're not signing diya lol
Don't you think they need another MT?
Who are the MT remaining?
I trust fate imo
I mean
Fate
Wonder who’s outlaws gonna pick up lel
A flex tank even
No flex tank, I trust Void a lot
they have void....
He's the most consistent OT
in the league
I'm not sure about fate imp
I like how they pick up molly
Probably one of the best flex support in asia imp
But, I can trust moon to develop molly and fate to be good
moon and fate are friends, and moon probably likes fate as a player, and thinks he can be top tier
Def as assistant
Maybe on toronto or shock
I mean on shock he would be with agape again
Glads 👀
I hope he's be on justice
Dpei needs help
Brenda gives him sleep
But more sleep
R u just like a decay fanboy or smth?
No justice fan boy
Which is better for quartermain?
Prob glads bc old london
Birdring needs the most development out of every glads player
he needs to be more consistant
Yeah
and I think quartermain can do that
When he was on good he was nasty
considering they even used to be teammates
Though he had more good than bad this year, birdring
tru
Justice needs him more
no way, justice has 2 coaches already
gl with that big man
Problem??
and whose the flex DPS Tuba???
didn't they rip hangzhou's supp line
Yes
LOL
Bebe sucks...
so true
And closer is closer
maybe they can be good
Bebe sucks???
yes
I'm just not that hopeful about that supp line
Whose ur team
He was the worst part of spark 2 seasons in a row
I think Justice might have one of the best tank lines
Yeah I'm not taking ur trash opinion when ur a dallas fsn
yo chill
yeah Mag just needs to prove himself
and if he looks as good as he has done in the past that's one of the best tanklines in the league
He popped off in contenders for years, but owl is a different beast
Muze is another MT I hope does well
I liked muze on eternal academy
Ttuba, bebe, and closer going to be sick

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