it doesnt
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
the meta gun on day 1 of modern warfare is still the meta gun today
over a year later
??
They are tho
karmic grotto
It's their main source of income
balmy wolf
I think you forget that Warzone is only a part of call of duty
tropic herald
Man this is esports discussion, guys just go somewhere else or talk about esports
balmy wolf
And they have a new release/campaign/zombies every year
i was talking about multiplayer
but still
well they sell that shit for 60 dollars
those aren't free updates
Back to esports, OWL is not as popular of Cod League. Lets discuss why
cod is just a more popular game
karmic grotto
Call of Duty has a longer history of existing
balmy wolf
mainly cus of console
karmic grotto
Would Overwatch be released in 2010, then it would have been as big as League of Legends in terms of size of esports, fans, sponsors, merchandise
karmic grotto
They failed to let esports scene grow naturally and instead forced a system
I see why they invested in owl, they expected the esports scene to grow in size, like, generally all types of esports
But overwatch seems to be declining while others are growing
balmy wolf
I think it is due to the main game’s popularity in part
When was our last major content update in relation to major effect in OWL
Echo, right?
jee u guys get so pessimistic about OWL
if a farming game can get a esports league then why worry about owl
karmic grotto
Maybe we should start watching farming esports
balmy wolf
I think one is more popular than the other
Just a guess
i dont expect games like r6 or rocket league to be up there with Lol or csgo
those games have decades of history
karmic grotto
As long as they're paid...
F2p games have more potential generally
They should have gone F2p route since the beginning and from there, working out the issue
hot heart
Overwatch 2 is going to be a major rehaul
karmic grotto
Why do they assume, that everyone that has Internet or a pc, can afford to buy overwatch? Might as well make it free to play with your own usual dlc packages or skins and focus on esports instead of making money
hot heart
Yeah
true hound
if they go to f2p they better have a meaty battlepass
because ow cosmetics are reaally fucking good
balmy wolf
yea the game was going fine until brig and mercy killed a lot of casual interest
true hound
mhm
balmy wolf
the game was cheap
true hound
you cant yoink your playerbase by keeping double sniper around and adding brig and shit
karmic grotto
Super Jump should have never existed
true hound
regardless
just little things would add to the game
like a proper tutorial
or 6v6 ranked/clans system
karmic grotto
I tried the tutorial a few months ago, well, that was a freaking sad experience
true hound
customizability of cosmetics (mixing and matching weapons)
etc. etc.
yea the tutorial is mad scuffed lmao
balmy wolf
but lets be real, has blizzard really had a good esports scene with any of their games?
no not really
true hound
oof
karmic grotto
They don't listen
They just don't care about us
We want a good game, a good pro scene, balance
Instead, they focus on getting recognition for starting a world wide competition. The idea on long term is good, but if you can't solve short term issues...
karmic grotto
but lets be real, has blizzard really had a good esports scene with any of their...
The people from dreamhaven dodged a bullet there
When they will do everything right what Blizzard did wrong
cobalt spoke
true hound
lmao
wanton birch
If shock get the threepeat is it safe to say main key to their success is crusty ?
raw ermine
Choihyobin viol2t and crusty
the only players/coaches to be there and active 100% of the time
wanton birch
Imo as long as long as shock has viol2t and crusty they will always be top 3
Viol2t is just a nut
tropic herald
Many players talk of Viol2t giving off an in game presence as
Some other players are on this list
Striker, Kevster, Void
earnest leaf
Viol2t has a pure chad presence at all times
tropic herald
Raid boss on Zen
wanton birch
Viol2ts been in my friends games and he seems like a dick, but hey he’s good at games
true hound
lol
wanton birch
What do you think the current rankings look like ?
earnest leaf
shock still at top tbh
it's hard to tell since these rosters are super new
For all we know shock could be 4th
stuck radish
a lot of ppl are setting dallas to win already
wanton birch
I’m thinking shock>Dallas>Shanghai/glads>Justice
earnest leaf
Dallas should be good
tropic herald
Too many empty rosters to tell rn
earnest leaf
but I think people are overrating them
tropic herald
Ask me in like 4 months then I’ll know
wanton birch
Then dark horse teams I have Toronto, spark or hunters possible top 5 or 6
true hound
i think if dallas makes work of their roster
they can definitely smack
justice as well
wanton birch
If they don’t holy shit
true hound
if ria & bebe work out, Justice will be nasty
earnest leaf
they better hope they don't get a double hitscan meta
true hound
considering you have Decay, the big dick carry himself
wanton birch
Yeah but I feel that’s a big if
true hound
Fury AND Mag
wanton birch
They have top tier tanks , a top tier dps then a bunch of punts imo
wanton birch
Pre best gm as well
tropic herald
Seoul dropped ToYou 
wanton birch
Imo people seem to be ignoring the majority of last season and the signings they made while crowd pleasing arent game changers
But who knows , gesture and profit might do their magic again
cobalt spoke
Might
next mesa
WHAT THEY DID
true hound
will
cobalt spoke
Hope
cobalt spoke
Profit was literally mediocre for most of this year
true hound
have they announced anything
next mesa
That means
wanton birch
What about glads ?
true hound
u cant do shit as a dps when ur team is inconsistent af
next mesa
They got jjanu
wanton birch
Top three support lines
true hound
unless ur decay
next mesa
@cobalt spoke you got profit and then you got playoff profit
true hound
did they hire new coaches yet
next mesa
cobalt spoke
No
true hound
ye
next mesa
No zalty
cobalt spoke
Profit was bad in the season 2 playoffs too
next mesa
Yeah which kinda sucks
wanton birch
Gladiators with kevster and birdring on lan😩
true hound
bro
cobalt spoke
In even numbered seasons playoffs profit doesnt exist
true hound
everyone has been saying kevster has potential to be the best player
cobalt spoke
Aka this next season
true hound
ur just scared
cobalt spoke
Me?
wanton birch
Just hope that muze doesn’t disappoint
wanton birch
Gladiators and main tanks is just pain
true hound
pls make work of kevster pls make work of kevster
wanton birch
I mean kevster has good stats with 200 ping
I’m pretty confident birdring kevster will be pretty good
wanton birch
They wanted him didn’t they ?
wanton birch
If glads don’t do well , it’s time to ditch dpei
true hound
i guess
wanton birch
Like when they ran double sniper on havana
true hound
i think his widow is def up there we just didnt get to see a lot of it
raw ermine
Muze Space Rascal Birdring Moth Shu
they reunite toronto esports
which is cracked
they reunite kongdoo panthera
which is cracked
they played a top 3 korean MT this year plus the best NA OT
which is
well
cracked
so yeah
that'd be cracked
top 6
wanton birch
So sad ,all that just to be the top 5 gate keeper once again XD
wanton birch
Fair
With chengdu should we presume yveltal is only two way so he can act as a mentor for team chaser during off season?
I can’t see him not starting next season
cobalt spoke
Kevster has potential to be as good as the shock dps
Glads will never be the best
They are cursed
next mesa
Didn't say they're gonna be
tawdry hamlet
Wait they dropped rascal because he's expensive then signed nero and kept ta1yo ok
tawdry hamlet
next mesa
the third championship always hardest to do
warriors miami spurs lakers rockets
ALL FAILED
digital cloud
the people who did not know about covid
digital cloud
you know, that unexpected thing that made homestands not happen
next mesa
source
hidden vault
Shock has 5 dps again? Or is it 4?
silk frost
4
balmy wolf
warriors miami spurs lakers rockets
lakers actually did 3 peat
hidden vault
They aren't getting a main support back up as always
hidden vault
lakers actually did 3 peat
3 consecutive?
balmy wolf
@hidden vault back to back to back
next mesa
yes 3 consecutive
balmy wolf
it was the kobe/shaq duo
next mesa
mj 3 peated 2 times, that's why he's the goat
balmy wolf
there isnt
balmy wolf
u can say best in role
next mesa
profit fleta rascal viol2t
balmy wolf
and also depends on what your criteria is
hot heart
Who's shown the most skill
hot heart
Hmm
balmy wolf
i would just go by roles
balmy wolf
there isnt a true goat since that doesnt exist expect in hockey
hot heart
And viol2t
next mesa
does hockey have a goat
balmy wolf
yes and its not even close
next mesa
I guess lebron is kinda close
honestly lebron gotta get another ring to pass kareem but thats just me
balmy wolf
i would put striker pretty high on the goat dps list
balmy wolf
choi is probs the closest goat OT in the game rn
hot heart
Yeah
hot heart
Hasnf been playing long enough and hasnt won a championship
next mesa
and they are about equal
balmy wolf
void has only recently show top tier play
next mesa
void was around since apex
no
he got to the finals
in s3
apex
map 7 lost to lunatic hai
balmy wolf
and yet choi has done a lot more in his time in t1
hot heart
Yeah
balmy wolf
consistency matters
earnest leaf
Although void was stellar this past season, choi has shown consistency and has won multiple things
hot heart
Rn in terms of skill
Id say void is a bit better
He's the current best OT
But
In the past two years
Choi has had the consitent top tier play
Next year void would be valid for GOAT candidate i think
next mesa
striker is pretty great
balmy wolf
not sure about MT
next mesa
honestly in terms of achievements
balmy wolf
I guess the easy answer is smurf
balmy wolf
idk
hot heart
I think so
balmy wolf
gesture is close but hes on and off
next mesa
yeah gesture in terms of achievements
balmy wolf
i wouldnt be worry if super left and they just had smurf really
hot heart
Yeah
He could learn the rein
Wouldnt be better than supers
Probably
But
Would still be good
Now
What MS has really impressed
I think its moth
Looking at the past 2 seasons
balmy wolf
i dont really look at season 1 anymore since its the competition ever since dwarfs it
but tobi is good answer
ig
if you're talking pre owl
anamo is up there but hasnt won shit besides stage playoffs
next mesa
I mean u got 2 back to back apex titles and a second place finish in owl
not too ba
d
balmy wolf
its really the apex titles
ig guess the game hasnt been out long enough to really see how good players can be
next mesa
Did you know ryujehong was back to back mvps as well, cuz I didn't know lmfao
balmy wolf
in apex?
next mesa
yea
balmy wolf
miro is a legend along with ryu
they innovated on heroes
more like they made the hero what it is
next mesa
they're gonna be the steph curry of overwatch
next mesa
tragic
balmy wolf
both of the legendary KR squads, runaway and lunatic both collaspe
at least runaway cemented themselves as one the best in owl
lunatic hai never was top 5 in owl
next mesa
guys if esca and whoru was on the team they would've won 🗿
hot heart
The Ryujehong era, the Jjonak era and the Viol2t era
next mesa
did we give any attention to viol2t last year
balmy wolf
kind of funny jjonaks best hero was not even zen it was ana
next mesa
I swear it was all twilight
balmy wolf
no it was dps year in s2 for mvp
next mesa
dps year?
balmy wolf
sin, haksal, seo, all were in running for mvp
next mesa
not haksal
balmy wolf
wait i dont think seo was in
balmy wolf
tank heavy
next mesa
yeah
balmy wolf
twilight/viol2t were neck and neck on goats
but haksal was #1 on brig
man was a machine on her
next mesa
facts
balmy wolf
they are both pretty much even
trail perch
No nuance November
next mesa
choi sig was just better tha jjanu
and then the tankline change
was just all over the place man
earnest leaf
titans were better at first but shock eventually got better than them at goats
next mesa
was the second stage all goats
earnest leaf
I think so
stage 3 teams started to do more dps shenanigans
then stage 4 was role lock
balmy wolf
it was goats all the up until stage 3
dragons were the only ones really doing well with dps comps
next mesa
chengdu 
balmy wolf
too bad they were meh
trail perch
Even in stage 2 no one played only goats
And stage one the Titans had a orisa Cree comp on illios
noble nexus
https://twitter.com/ow_nero/status/1333501819574579200 god I love Crusty
next mesa
no he was going to the outlaws
He wanted to stay with happy
but shock last minute was like
yo what up 👀
noble nexus
yeah that's what I mean
balmy wolf
outlaws got snuffed out once again
balmy wolf
that isnt saying much
noble nexus
could be paris
worn falcon
Nothing wrong hiring the superior Ball, Yeatle.
tawdry hamlet
Truetrue
Im so excited to watch spark
I hope they fuck
The competition that is 
hot heart
Rn
Spark has put in backups
Just incase the mux of chinese and korean doesnt work
Really smart
But that means if the mix doesnt work
Their peak will be the same as last year
Or even worse
High risk high reward
They set themselves up just need fo execute well now
hidden vault
Spark has put in backups
what back up?
tropic herald
hot heart
what back up?
Koreans
Insteas of the chinese players they picked up
Just incase integration isnt going well
What are the rumoured pickups around vancouver
hot heart
Fire and Frdwnr are the two rumoured pick ups for vancouver at the moment
hot heart
linkzr
Linkzr was a bait by halo lmao
We waited for like an hour
And just got baited hard
It was painful
hidden vault
Houston going korean?
balmy wolf
Houston going korean?
but they got crimzo, still have danteh
hidden vault
and they might fill the rest with koreans
plush grail
miro is lft as a coach??? https://www.instagram.com/p/CIQBg3Vn_XR/?igshid=4j5nfm9b8sy4
echo shell
The whole lunatic hai roster don't have a team rn. Can you imagine a team pick team all up together.... Esca whoru gido miro zunba rjh tobi
hot onyx
Back in the day they absolutely dominated but idk how alot of them would hold up against the top parts of the league
Whoru and Tobi were the only ones to play in season three except rjh who played before titans disbanded
And even then imo jehong didn’t look like he was keeping up with the higher parts of the league
hot onyx
They would be good but could they keep up with the top part of the league?
trail perch
No way, the level has progressed a shit ton since early apex
Like we live in a society where Kaiser is a mid tier contenders rein one trick
hot onyx
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
trail perch
imo maybe tobi whoru and rjh could get teams
hot onyx
Muma was considered a top mt season 1 now he was benched for a flex dps player
plush grail
what about esca
trail perch
and Zunba after seoul
plush grail
we never saw esca's skill go down
trail perch
Was esca in owl?
plush grail
he just had to leave for military
hot onyx
Nah real shooting gives him the game sense and aim he needs for fake shooting
trail perch
fsfs
hot onyx
He makes ans carpe and lip look like bottom tier contenders players if he comes back
solar bison
Yeah
trail perch
But Bumper, jjanu, stich, hooreg lft...
solar bison
Esca learned real aim
trail perch
and slime...
solar bison
So his will be top tier in OWL
trail perch
and if someone could take haksal out of retirement...
hot onyx
Hydration?
hot onyx
Ikik I’m meming
trail perch
k just making sure
plush grail
yeah ofcourse every hero has good players
but does that mean zunba can't have a good zarya???
karmic grotto
He never had the chance
trail perch
Late s1?
plush grail
was zarya ever meta in s1?
karmic grotto
one stage
trail perch
Yeah, a whole stage
Stages are a lot of time
especially in s1
they where 10 matches
echo shell
I mean a team can just pick up all these lunatic hai player and get a huge fan base. They don't have to be top tier in the league and just be middle of the packs. It is so difficult to get a championship anyway when half of the league is looking to build a super team
And sell mech like carzy
next mesa
Esca Jehong whoru tobi where y'all going babes
raw ermine
getting a real job he said
plush grail
burgerflippr
cedar oasis
Valorant bad
plush grail
taimou bad
silk frost
Both bad
plush light
Rascal is onto something with his crosshair. Look it up
plush grail
??
keen aurora
?
tidal ridge
???
raw ermine
????
hot onyx
.
weak bolt
Twitter
silk frost
LMAO
weak bolt
Please dont let that just be bait. Gimme more shock news
silk frost
they releasing twilight?
weak bolt
silk frost
what if they sign Piggy
cyan parcel
with brennon hook slideshow gaming matt merello and jake
next mesa
I dont htink releasing twilight would be worth a 👀
cuz its a negative thing
should be a signing
yeah a new OT would be nice
OR
THEY SIGN LIBERO
APFIVSNWMVOWNGWSPRGIUNESWPFIS
weak bolt
I reckon someone new for the coaching staff honestly
silk frost
who would make this big of a wave
next mesa
yeah
limber pine
err sorry offtank
next mesa
choi plays everything
limber pine
or maybe they've re-signed Rascal
worn falcon
Do they have someone to replace moth?
limber pine
FDGod
silk frost
maybe they sign SanGuiNar as a backup
worn falcon
Maybe they trying to clone Crusty
silk frost
Main support
weak bolt
Only other thing I could see would be if they made a trade with another team. Like swapping Twilight for someone
weak bolt
Maybe Twilight wants more play time, they dont seem to hold onto players if they want to leave
next mesa
weak bolt
Benbest will probably end up on the Kruise contenders team and make more money than most OWL teams anyway
karmic grotto
weak bolt
Rumours all true then. Decent pickups, nothing special
rare magnet
linkzr
weak bolt
I just like having Linkzr in the community honestly
hot heart
Okay so
Fire: anything is better than last years support line.
Frd: he's decent
Linkzr: ???
worn falcon
dink dink dink
hot heart
I get it from vancouvers perspective
worn falcon
since they released cockwave
weak bolt
Probably not
weak bolt
Only other team would maybe be Spitfire, but I suspect they might grab Soon
weak bolt
I'd probably take Titans over Paris as well if i were Linkzr
next mesa
no keeping roolf is
weak bolt
yeah its strange. Maybe they believe they can coach out the feed from him during off season
hot heart
At best
Shredlock ends up being okay
But wtf is roolf doing on the roster
Didnt even realise he was resigned
weak bolt
he's canadian
hot heart
The best part about this roster is the dps line atm
And even then
Not great
Ksf to vancouver could be decent
plush grail
titans is gonna be like bottom 5 instead of bottom 2 now
weak bolt
They're a $50k a year team with a couple of players you could probably consider marketable. Thats about it
silk frost
Roolf is okay
worn falcon
Maybe Vanc can be top 2 team again
plush grail
top 2 with linkzr and fire pog
worn falcon
WTF
plush grail
???
weak bolt
Shock are just going full Thanos mode
plush grail
glister to shock??
weak bolt
ANS, Striker, Glister, Taiyo and Nero. Fucking hell
worn falcon
another hitscan?
hot heart
See
plush grail
but like they have ans and striker who cover every hitscan right?
weak bolt
Glister can hitscan & flex
hot heart
Now im extremely confused
worn falcon
Bro
hot heart
Yeah but
Nero can also do that
What does glister play that nero cant
And why is ta1yo on the roster now
worn falcon
are they gonna release ANS?
plush grail
Glister can hitscan & flex
yeah but they also still have taiyo on the bench for flex play
hot heart
This makes no sense
weak bolt
It's Shock, they'll make it work
I can't think of any dps hero that Shock aren't covered for now though
plush grail
is shock gonna have players focus on grinding 1 hero as much as possible?
silk frost
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
tropic herald
Glister isn’t just hitscan
tropic herald
He’s a decay type of player
earnest leaf
God andy miller is the richest fucking man
weak bolt
Honestly, Glister/Nero with Crusty coaching sounds nasty, before you even consider the other 3
tropic herald
I’m also very excited for these players on Shock Bc the media team will actually let me see the players personality
limber pine
Glister was probably cheap
hot heart
Nah
plush grail
yeah he came off a super bad year with london
tropic herald
Glister probably cheap for shock but expensive for London
hot heart
Not expensive
plush grail
why would glister be expensive
hot heart
This still makes no sense
solar bison
Did something happen to AnS?
solar bison
What happened
hot heart
ANS has had problems with depression
solar bison
Oh
hot heart
So he might need breaks during 2021
plush grail
also are orgs announcing stuff after plat chat on purpose lmaoooo
worn falcon
Yeah, he had a breakdown months ago
hot heart
Glister could play for him
worn falcon
so they need a stable hitscan
weak bolt
It might be they want ANS to focus on less heroes ot help his mental health
solar bison
So glister is backup, plus glister has big potential
hot heart
Yeah
solar bison
Good move crusty
weak bolt
You could have ANS play Widow/Ashe, which Glister focuses Mcree/Ashe for example
gilded dagger
OMGMGMGMGMGMGOGGMGKGOGMGMGOGM GMG
worn falcon
unless they release ANS
gilded dagger
SHOCK SIGNED GLISTER???????!!!!!!!!!
hot heart
Yeah
plush grail
You could have ANS play Widow/Ashe, which Glister focuses Mcree/Ashe for example
so is striker gonna become the tracer specialist?
gilded dagger
WTFWTFWTFTWWTFWTET
hot heart
so is striker gonna become the tracer specialist?
Probably
weak bolt
Is Striker not already basically a tracer specialist?
silk frost
bro
gilded dagger
honestly if double hitscan meta comes shcok wilm dominate
stuck radish
3peat time
weak bolt
Glister also has a nasty Doomfist honestly
gilded dagger
3peat boia
silk frost
Striker plays Hanzo, Cree, Tracer, and Pharah and widow
stuck radish
does nero or glister have a good zarya
wanton birch
Glister and shockwave the real winners of season 3
gilded dagger
ans is a hitscan specialist
wanton birch
Happy for them seeing they got put on such bad teams
plush grail
interesting to see how this turns out
cause taiyo is also still on the bench
so crusty is gonna be a busy boy
plush light
Glister is a flex dps, like linkzr
stuck radish
we lost sinatraa and rascal but now we have nero and glister
plush grail
wow you know you're making really fuckin weird moves if SIDESHOW of all people predicted it
weak bolt
Glister plays Doom too, he isn't pure hitscan
hazy stream
Glisterrr
trail perch
Like carpe then
hazy stream
Hes nastyyy
plush light
Glister also plays genji and hanzo
trail perch
but now shock have 4 primarily hitscan player
plush light
Like linkzr
trail perch
fucking ans striker ta1yo and glister
trail perch
Did you watch him in contenders?
weak bolt
Because he played it in a meta, doesn't mean thats his best heroes
trail perch
His talent was on hitscan like ashe and tracer
Thats where he popped off
thats where he was noticed
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THEY SIGNED GLISTER??????
weak bolt
He was forced onto hitscan because of the meta, he's said that himself, he prefers flex/projectile
next mesa
YOOOO OKAY
trail perch
YEAHHHH
next mesa
OKAY OKAY OKAY
hazy stream
They just bought him so other teams didn't
weak bolt
They probably bought him because Crusty sees potential to make him a star player in OW
stuck radish
shock is gonna run like 2 dps the whole season and keep the other 3 on the bench
weak bolt
and this channel always speculates that S4 will be on OW2, so maybe they're expecting more heroes to learn
stuck radish
echo
cobalt spoke
2 weeks is enough
It also wasnt 2 weeks
It was a whole month immdiately after rein d.va meta
plush light
When has a new hero not been meta
Ashe
plush light
Not at pro level
plush light
And brig
plush grail
wait was glister a fa or did he get bought out
weak bolt
FA
cobalt spoke
Ana was broken on release
weak bolt
Spitfire released him
stuck radish
ana was trash on release
cobalt spoke
Ball took 1 month to become meta
plush grail
Spitfire released him
ahh that sucks, i hoped london got some good money for him but nvm
plush light
Brig wasn't realized until later because in playoffs there was that weird double sniper triple tank meta
stuck radish
ball is the staple of not playing meta
earnest leaf
how good is glister at sombra
cobalt spoke
What do you think season 3 was?
stuck radish
double shield
plush light
Playoffs always have the worst metas
cobalt spoke
Stage 3 included alot of ball
weak bolt
Ball has never really been meta unless you're a chinese panda team
cobalt spoke
Umm
stuck radish
you can look at every meta in the history of OW and none of them have ball in it
weak bolt
He's somewhat meta on control maps, but that's it
plush grail
yeatle will make ball meta
stuck radish
there was no true meta at that time
cobalt spoke
Yes there was
stuck radish
it was a mess
earnest leaf
trying to figure out the meta without owl is a bit dumb
cobalt spoke
Or ball sigma
stuck radish
yea we should wait until owl comes on to see the meta
cobalt spoke
Contenders always plays the same things as owl anyway
stuck radish
watch its like
cobalt spoke
Whats the point
stuck radish
rein ball or something stupid
stuck radish
im talking about when owl comes on you donut
cobalt spoke
You're the donut if you think its going to be ball rein
stuck radish
anything can happen
stuck radish
you never know for sure
cobalt spoke
Yes I do
stuck radish
who would've thought the washington justice would do better in the playoffs than the entire season
you just never know
anything can happen with the meta
cobalt spoke
That was just decay
All the other good teams played sigma hog
The meta didnt change you 🍩
balmy wolf
Im surprised this didnt get leaked
tropic herald
digital cloud
joobie? is that the same guy as joobi?
plush light
All the other good teams played sigma hog
How would Justice have run that? I'm just curious.
Stich hog and jjanu sigma?
weak bolt
They couldnt run sigma hog, its why they stuck to Zarya until the very end basically
digital cloud
isn't he a dps?
digital cloud
yeah, but dps I don't think usually play sigma
worn falcon
I'm amazed that there is no news at all coming out of Mayhem
Neither of Paris, but Avalla is doing god's work.
weak bolt
Can't leak a roster that doesn't exist 😄 but yeah he's being respectful to Avalla
limber pine
teams are going to play whoever is the best
Hydration was fucking main tank this year
worn falcon
*Muma is a ball player
raw ermine
damn linkzr frd and fire
limber pine
if a team's best Sigma is their off-support, then they should play him/her
digital cloud
but after that, and he is still a tank
linkzr actually looked rather decent near the end
if he could be consistent, he would be great
problem was that he wasn't, and that was probably due to being on houston
surprised he would want to go to a team worse than Houston though
the Titans are like boston level now
even worse than boston
at least boston wasn't trying to get pedophiles
dropping runaway was intentional
hot heart
Both orgs are ass
next mesa
facts
ta1yo when super lost against jake he was like "I got benched by super" and then proceeded to get 5-0ed by viol2t
stuck radish
to be fair viol2t is like the best player in the game
next mesa
facts
next mesa
profit doesn't count
true hound
then muma
true hound
ah ah I see
stuck radish
nah
true hound
imagine if titans got that tank line
stuck radish
profit bad
true hound
shut
stuck radish
couldnt carry seoul hard enough
true hound
I get carcar but why ksaa
He was quite good
200 ping warlord
him and shockwave always did quite well
balmy wolf
visa stuff maybe?
next mesa
@spring sequoia no
digital cloud
just hoping Houston gets a tank soon
did Fissure give up permanently?
if so, he might be a legitimate and pretty much the only option that I can think of for a good mt
next mesa
u forgot bumper
next mesa
also we dont even know if fissure is lft
hot heart
Bumper is the biggest risk a team could take rn
digital cloud
that is why I asked
hot heart
On MT
He could have dropped off hard
Or
Even if he didn't
He needs a good team to support him
So most teams cant pick him up
next mesa
that is why I asked
yeah his twitter is like private idk
digital cloud
such a shame
I think fissure is likely still pretty good
unless he has given up entirely
which, to be honest, he might have
obtuse socket
pick up libero
solar bison
I wouldnt blame him if he gave up
plush light
Did rck retire?
solar bison
The one time he wants to play, he gets fucked up by Vancouver
worn falcon
last one from Pumper was doing scrims with some Runaway/LH players iirc?
and last one from Fissure was him doing the Frozen cosplay
raw ermine
he did retired, went to valorant
plush light
Sad
I liked rck
Dalton is a hitscan, linkzr is finally allowed to flex.
In your dps you want a hitscan, a flex, and a projectile.
next mesa
isn't linkzr hitscan as well
digital cloud
I think someone mentioned him being flex
though I thought he was hitscan
he does play genji
silk frost
Tizi Outlaw