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Elon probably just signs all of shock and shanghai for a mil each
imagine all the major tech entrepeneurs just make a team
They win
bill gates, jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg, elon musk
they'd be able to sign a player for like a billion
Their bag is bigger than Dallas’
enough to get sinatraa out of retirement
Yep
He also replied to someone saying cobra kais motto with a picture of mercy caption well maybe a little mercy
And they just bribe jeff to buff brig or something
Reference cobra Kais motto is strike first, strike hard, no mercy
@JohnWil69078240 Not a trade, he's been signed to NYXK from O2 Blast in Korean Contenders. Still done, NYXL announce once they have their roster completed
"NYXL announce once they have their roster completed"
Cool
Expect a sick roster reveal
elon musk bronze-silver hosted games when
if there isnt a bame1 led team i dont wanna see it.
Is their a max salary in OWL?
yes it is called rascal
idk if you knew that or are hyping up you favourite player
but according to dextero, thats right
there isnt a max salary, but apparently theres a soft cap
so if u go over it then you pay more in taxes
Probably like 600k or something
I've heard some this year went up to over 500k
lol taimou said the best annoying widow player to 1v1 was fleta
he ain’t ever seen kephrii 😤😤😤
Lmao samito duoing with unsaltedsat
Got havana
"oh and they get kephrii okay this is ggs"
I mean it was true he got sights in 40 se
Sec
Kephrii has good aim on widow
Not too smart though
The boys are back for gauntlet lmao
Daemin coaches for gauntlet then straight to GZ probably
ELEMENT MYSTIC FIGHTIIIIIIING!!!!
ELEMENT MYSTIC FIGHTINGGGGGG
hmm
Wait i thought Element Mystic disbanded
They saw the gauntlet winner cash prize and said "imma need that"

Element Mystic FIGHTINGGGGGGGG
Element Mystic FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
esports
Sorry we're a little preoccupied on ELEMENT MYSTIC FIGHTIIINNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
ELEMENT MYSTIC FIGHTIIINNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Nico posted LFT for contendies and gaunlet D:
yeah
Since i'll most likely not be in owl next season, i'm looking for a team for Gauntlet and next contenders.
Contact me on discord NiCO#6594 or twitter, thank you !
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Someone pic up my left handed bb
Pls
he would stomp eu
someone pick up my baby BOY
So sf cock just need 4 more of their players back
They couldn't have been so expensive that avalla couldn't have kept any of the three

Guai lo
Soon Benbest Nico 
ANS super and twilight
They could have kept fdgod too
I wonder how would he feel moth's shoes
And why leave when you are a starter for a 2 time champion team?
Because his contract was up and im sure he had some good offers to try something new plus la to San Fran isn't a huge move
How high are the salaries? I know nobody knows like specific ones but I mean I saw someone say 500k is a cap or something but is that real? I was thinking it was like 50k a year? Am I completely off?
I can't imagine any profit ever being made at more than that
Ah
Ok thank google
I just didn't imagine star players making like pro hockey tier money lmao
Youtube overwatch league finals
how did you not find it

thanks man
now i did lol
pro hockey players makes like
millions a year bro
I mean depends
who
but 50k is MINIMUM
the average person makes around 50-60k so
I meant amateur my bad, my area has a minor league franchise where they make like half a mil yearly
Epic
Fair
poko could double his yearly pay if he mad a onlyfans account

the main reason players don't unionize is 1. orgs actually treat them pretty well and 2. they dont really give a fuck they're like 18
''orgs treat them well''
yeah
vancouver titans does not like that statement
that was an exception
rascal hit nearly 400k in his salary
yeah Rascal had one of the highest if I remember
I can't imagibe a bunch of 18-20 year olds making a union
With a large portion being not from the US
yeah
If you are part of a union that just means you are trouble
Unions are expensive af
You gotta pay a lot even if you don’t benefit from it
I would only suggest a Union if you make around 75k or above
If I was a boss and I saw someone was in a union I would not hire them
Well not always
To form a Union you need half plus one
And what if they were the others
According to sources, the Houston Outlaws are supposedly expected to sign Harrisburg Storm support Enrique "Joobi" Triana
Probably one of the better western MS's available
They don't rlly form unions because of the cultural differences
supposedly Houston were getting piggy and nero too, halo
where is that
also yeah, why not zholik?
where did he go?
Zholik maybe to Titans? Canadian after all. Not seen any rumours on him at all
I like AdmiralRaptr personally
Joobi in OWL you say
talking
Update: The Philadelphia Fusion did offer the most money to GaeBullSsi, however he is possibly joining another team to stay with a former teammate or coach, such as the Gladiators. https://t.co/wvZFr9xRUT
This guy has a lot of leaks
And a lot of them are right but some are unproven
And some are flat out wrong
I could take some screenshots of this server and
be like
yes
leaks
one of yall will get it right
According to sources, the Houston Outlaws are supposedly expected to sign Harrisburg Storm support Enrique "Joobi" Triana
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whom
that clarifies a lot
He is going to be average or below average compared to the rest of the league main supports I think
isn't chara lft... bruh
Houston is dangerous in a double hitscan meta negl
Happy and Danteh in like a tracer Ashe meta
Has Houston signed a main tank yet?
nah they're about to spend their savings on super
Missing @onigod in owl 😭

that mercy flick doe

Depressing that the fuel sucked so hard
Since their roster last season wasn't actually bad
it wasnt close to being elite tho
O
Baby ameng with ameng ameng
hang on
all I'm sayin guys
all I'm sayin
GaeBullSsi
was on WGS
with im37 and Lori
all I'm sayin guys
WAIT
when the McFUCK did this happen
uh they haven't tweeted about signing him
and now they have
FARAWAY
87
JERSEY HYPE
And the guy who overslept? It comes as no surprise this Reddit S tier player remains un-signed
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This tweet was fire from Charge COO
Is there even a competitor that plays Orissa?
Not exclusively
But that's like saying are there any tracer mains in OWL
I don't think there's a reason to field an orisa one trick when a better plan competitively is to pocket play Orisa
Orisa dummy thick, not just thick in competitive
But her bongo thingy is really op
And her left shift attack too
🥵🥵
She’s a good support
There's a YT clip of one OWL Player using bongo and it gets run over by the payload
It's a defensive ultimate, wasted if they simply hunt it down
For being stupid
True
But out of the tanks, Dva and Orissa are prob the best (hot take)
Right now anyway
Double damage is great for the whole team, but in most cases it limits the teams' effective damage range because they gotta be around the area of the boost
DVa was great for a long time
You don't need to play her now expecting DVa bombs like McGravy's 6K earlier this year
Oh yeah
But it's always not about the shield for winston?
I too maim winston frequently
I found DVa and Orissa much better
I guess it matters on skill
And assuming you stay as a team Orissa is god
they just need to make rein good again
that is true of all tanks but hog
Yeah hog really suck
playing rein is just getting turbofisted by cc all match and hitting shatters occasionally
Especially the rein bastion turrent and mercy combo going around to
Fricking god teir
Omg yes
https://youtu.be/1Vz4dy0guts
49:23 DVa is only as good as you follow Sombra/Zarya 2 years ago
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If you watched the match up before, you know exactly what part I'm talking about
Hard to argue with that
I’ve seen that before yeah
I feel like junk rat is a hit or miss if you play as him
First time that South Korea has ever been TK'd
Either you do good or you eat Ass
That’s true
It's literally built into the mechanics of junkrat to be consistent high rate of damage
So long as yoy aim right and reduce the amount of random that comes from lobbing grenades
No jakerat in 2020 😔
Also that finland team in 2020, where are they now:
Shaz/Biggoose retired at the end of the season
Zappis retired last year
Fragi has gone pro in WoW
Taimou retired after playing for Team Envy in Contenders
Linkzr is currently in Free Agency without a team
Peak EU Overwatch in 2019
high on the Fate train
they have fate?
the ol' switcheroo
Stand1 is a consistent player you can fall back on if Muze doesn't work
fair enough
And I think he's good at being that
same with Dreamer on Valiant
I think he'd be better than Dreamer
idk I never saw Stand1 play much outside of grand finals
idk how good he is at anything other than hog and ball
goo goo gaga
Idk if you don't know Gaga or just wanted to make the joke
why is chengdu's roster so big now
fuck yeah 1987 got signed somewhere
now in the very back of my head pls diya
someone
pls
chengdu is now chinese london
I was watching geguri stream ladder and she got in a game against violet
epic
yay apply is live and he said hello to me I am so cool
😎
ooh this Mcgravey apply codebreaker vs nero and other people game is epic
idk why I never bothered to watch owl players streams lmao
In what way is Chengdu the Chinese london?
I haven't heard this comparison before and I'm tryina figure it out
ooh who finna pick up stand 1
houston
mayhem/valiant i assume
mcgravy being replaced by stand1 would be a fatass upgrade
or is stand 1 main tank and im dumb?
genuinely would love stand1 valiant
tbh
stand1 is mt
Valiant have good scouting I'm sure they'll make some good pickups eventually
Curious who they're going to replace him with
anamo pog
What if they go out and sign sanguinar
Oh now I'm sad
I can feel Levy's sadness from here too
an F to what would have been the 5th player on their original roster since the start of the OW League
Life is pain and the offseason is cruel
and it won't for nobody
unless you are 2018 OWL MVP JJonak
or Carpe/Decay who are who are on 3 year contracts
Oof JMAC retired
AYO
WHAT THE
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
SEOUL
YOU LITTLE SHIT
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY
FUCK YOU
Well tobi isn't retiring
Wonder where he's going
!jumbo 😭
F
Miro and esca join them
Yes dude
Pffft
And whoru
Esports announcements is slow
Should have release of tobi and chengdu singing 1987

Anamo and tobi are the only two that'll find a team probably
Sbb might
But eh
Jehong is very unlikely
At least for a player role
As a coach i think he'd be an amazing coach
:((
Lunatic hai
Is this how it ends
;(((
Tobi was a top 5 ms last season i think he'll find a team
Yo Seoul's announcement was not a good way to start my morning. :(
Replies to Tobi announcing he left seoul
Man
All of the bois are here
Even KDG replied
Pain.
Rip Tobi
Jehong and Tobi as assistant coaches on Toronto?
Jehongs not coaching
Who was the lunatic hai coach back in the day? Was it KDG
And follow up what team do they coach rn
Tobi..
Not beasthalo
Need more esports news
I saw seoul instead of lunatic hai lmao sorry
How much do you think it cost Dallas for their roster
Their soul
Yeah that seems like a fair price
Sadge
Tobi stand1 stitch would've been cool 
Has anyone signed rascal
What if florida or some wack team like vancouver had him the whole time and we are just being baited by speculation
vancouver lmao
after that fiasco
no korean player will ever want to go on titans
which means they will always be shit tier
no koreans = bad
He did coach seoul

yeah you have you twitter account linked
Yeah
1987 just sounds better
Like
A caster says 1987
Its cool
Faraway1987
Well
??
Ig casters say far and away alot
He's changed his name 4 times
So maybe do something with that
H u h
Farway on its own is great
1987 on its own is great
Together it's just a really long name
Also
How highly would you rank 1987 based on other OWL FS
I really know nothing about him
gaga changed his name as well, not much but still
But ive heard really good things
Hm
damn hunters have 11 players
Who's the biggest question matk rn
In terms of players in OWL
Like
How will they play
Whos the player with the most expect coming into the league
Last year it was sp9rk1e
So i imagine it'll be a FS or Tank
him as well
Mag has huge expectations
The new guy on a potential super team
Alright so
Whats your pre-season power rankings for apac
Assuming london stay in apac
im so good at ow
Pog
hmm
im highest rank
well
im grandmaster
london has not roster, and I would imagine they would be getting BH
which would be NA
but since we assume they stay in Korea
why do we care4 lol
I don't think we have enough info yet
Can’t say much about the Hurricane experience after the surprise upset from obey alliance
They are a solid group and so is Paris if the leaked roster is to be believed
Yeah the players on that team didn’t quit
Yeah paris picking up obey would be huge
But they need a good coach to flourish
Even then
Picking up a whole contenders team is a gamble usually
They will be better than Boston
If they pickup potential good or even great players
Yes
If not
No
But
Halo said avalla is working really hard and that she's got a promising roster i think it was
Either that or trials for promising players
He wont leak anything on paris since avalla works so hard and he respects that
What's the leaked paris roster?
Only tryout leaks so far
He said, out of respect for avalla's work, he won't leak
Halo refused to leak paris this off season
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T1 has a xepher on their dota2 team
Paris roster won't even be bad tbh
like
just being an owl team
a lot of top contender prospects would wanna join
And paris has probably the best And most hardworkimg GM in OWL
So why not go there
You'll be treated right
Why would you not want to sign diya
More like siya later diya because you’re not getting signed
shut the fuck up bitch
Why do you think that?
Do you think he's bad?
Or just not ready for owl?
Or?
Id like to understand before i say anything
and spark + chengdu is almost full
it's just tragic being chinese
But maybe not the best fit for many teams rn
Was diya cfm-ed for charge?
cfm-ed?
confirmed I think
tobi?
@next mesa Why are you such a scapegrace
There are no Diya rumors because he’s not getting signed
you always have such classy retorts, Levy
perhaps one day I can reach your level of eloquence
PAIN
Thank you 🙏
Yeah I can embody this pain and sacrifice
Charge isn’t going to have a 10+ player roster
But I would certainly appreciate Diya so that there’s three different generation of Chinese players on this roster
I have a lot of doubt he fits their profile this season for a young roster with some veteran OWL talent
I know
I want to see the og widow man go brr in owl at least one more time please
and shanghai said he was running scrims and being a full team player last season despite barely playing at all so I really really hope somebody can find a spot for him
especially with how well team cc was doing
damn I crave florida roster announcements
dont worry halo said muze to mayhem
didn't even know but as it turns out, I play on seagull sense 
He's back.
@super_OW rejoins the Shock in 2021 to hunt the #3peat in one last dance. https://t.co/iYvFyzIbyE
One last dance?
He retires after this?
rip
plot twist: after super leave smurf becomes the best rein in the league
Honestly
Wouldn't be surprised if smurf pulls out a monstrous rein
Out of literally nowhere
Like ameng
super goes into tank coaching
just be streamer
no way he becomes a coach
him leaving would be incredibly suprising
People really thought he would go to houston
with the ego that mf has
He wants to dominate on shock first
no
but he is retiring
after
and then
stream in season 5
and then come back in season 6
dominate season 6-7-8
That MVP count would be incorrect if you weighted the regular season match mvps
Imagine how inflated that would be on top of a thousand missed shatters
I'd sign MJ onto an OWL team
mj didn't miss any shatter ever
Imagine if mj played OW and turned out to be the best rein OW has ever seen
His net worth is up to 80 OWL teams
elon must could buy 5000 OWL teams
Ye
We think of 20-40 mil as alot of money
Bring up all of Contenders and still be unable to fill 10 teams
Most of these people buying esports teams think of it as pocket change
A loss for scouting and for players in EU tbh
Well their wealth is generated elsewhere
Even the Aussie ones
Our local telecom sponsored the Warriors esports
They probably want their returns to be picked up by big cash money
My television owns philly fusion
I wonder if chengdu is gonna go for the full 12 man roster
they'd need to get a flex support
Jmac retired btw
yeah
He said something like "next step" in the title, but I didn't see any plans other "i'm retiring"
I'm bored
rank every owl player by their hair
We know who #1 is
Gods Aka Chad Thundercock
yeah
all the chinese players are changing their names when going to OWL
ameng did it too
GAGA is now Ga9a
And Kayleee is now MYKayleee
And now, uber on his offseason
Aussie esports commentator living it up in SoCal! Catch me on the Overwatch League or right here streaming my favourite games!
His routine during the regular season:
Morning - rewatches APAC
Midday - Contenders EU
Afternoon/Evening - prep for NA matches
Sleep and real life stuff kinda happens in between all that
Geez no wonder he'll never come around to looking at literally any other Contenders region
I feel like people really need to focus more on contenders china
Im watching some vods rn
A few of these players are so mechanicaly talented
is he reviewing new OWL players?
it was a gym stream LOL
Chengdu's academy team no surprise is smashing lesser CN contenders teams
are yv and young playing?
except no mag
who did team chasers lose to
wait this is next winter
okay
not gauntlet
it says chasers is in the losers bracket
who is runaway's new MT?
dont they have an old one
define new
woohyal on da ball
and despite their 6-man roster
runaway is doing fine
results since I believe this is the rerun of the last two matches of the day
yeah best way to answer all the questions today
2 top KR
6 invited from CN
that's a healthy pool of teams for CN hosted tournament to get in more practice against the best in Asia
Lori too
Valentine, GaeBullSsi and ZEBAG are must picks
where is GBS going, Fusion - Gladiators - someone else?
I think he had a rumor
wasn't it nyxl?
also valentine has like no rumors im surprised
what other hitscans are people anticipating to joining a new team? Just Linkzr to Titans?
https://gatamchun1110.medium.com/dallas-fuel-coach-rush-on-stream-11-25-2020-excerpts-and-summary-69bc1e655518
Rush's KR livestream translated
Chat: Any streamers you think are OWL-level?
Rush: I haven’t watched any since I went to the US. But either way, I think it’s best for players to first compete in Contenders, get a taste of competitive play, before coming to OWL.
[Gatam's Note: LOVING THIS TIER 2 VALIDATION]
Rush could sell me that Overwatch 2 is releasing in 2025 and I'd be hooked
lmao 52
Diem to Guangzhou
Imagine if titans just make monster pickups out of nowhere with like diem rascal etc. Would be wild
Honestly if another team wasn't afraid to spend the money all these leftover players could form such a good roster
also
I'm sure Vancouver management must learn that the team manager had to gouge an arm and a leg to acquire both fissure and jehong
they don't know the finer details as to what the fuss was about at the end of Season 2
Fuck it
Why not buy out a whole team
I hear runaway has some up and coming talent
Titans org got what they deserved, a brutal domination from shock
not the players though Sadge
If they had bumper,would've been 4-0 titans
Ive always been into the overwatch league but Ive never really had a team I stick with, how did anyone else choose a team to follow?
Lunatic Hai
I hop on the bandwagon
Actually I just really like jehong
Anyway and then i never come down
I've been a fan of the shock since like their og roster with sleepy and dhak and shit
I also bandwagoned striker cuz he was a nutcase on boston
Regionally, Guangzhou is the closest to New Zealand
Plus the roster/coaching choices are pretty consistent with getting a couple more wins against teams above them in power rankings
become a boston fan
they were bottom tier for a entire season
any win they get in season 4 is big
Full roster?
Final roster for Chengdu actually looks really good
Yeah i think so
Ok
D I Y A
The livestream of Rush's Q&A has some comedy gold
Rush: I feel bad, non-Korean viewers won’t be able to understand what I’m saying.
Also Rush: Who left a question in binary code? Do I have to solve this? Will someone solve this for me? Ok, I’m going to ignore that one.
Uhh
O2 just got decimated
oh these are qualifiers
Chengdu kinda stacked. It's good they are making the roster so early so they can get a ton of coaching
After negotiation, Ga9a and Farway1987 remains to represent Team CC in the 2020 Contenders Gauntlet.
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well not quite yet
Chat: What rank do you expect to achieve for the 2021 regular season?
Rush: I’d like to get rank 1. Depends on Xzi doing well. If Xzi does well, we can get first place. Everyone agrees, right?
Xzi: Pls rollback McCree’s attack speed
lmfao
Rush and Xzi have an interesting relationship.
Where is the livestream
what livestream
of the matches
someone wanna play Quick play? DM me
#lf-players-na or one of the lfg channels
By the way ALL of CC is playing in the gauntlet besides 1987
@silk frost
1 minute til the EU open qualifiers start for gauntlet!
What do y’all think are the top 5 main supports cos I think it’s moth fdgod shu tobi and another person lol
Shu's flex suppport
I'd agree, and add funnyastro and leejaegon, and of course remove shu
Yeah idk why they'd get sbb
so weird that profit was just, BAD, at echo
kissahomie strat?

SBB RUMOUR TO SEOUL https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/k2rdy3/halo_according_to_sources_the_seoul_dynasty_are/
THAT'S ACTUALLY BIG
but Tobi 
makes sense if they need some veteran and leader
and SBB have those qualities
even if he gets benched
Profit and gesture?
They are veterans
Well maybe not the leader type..
More like a don't bother me just don't get in my way type
any team that picks up sbb will win the holdahomieshand meta
They released toyou
According to Sources, the Seoul Dynasty are looking into signing Saebyeolbe, sources say they believe he could be a good fit. After tobis decision, the Dynasty is moving quickly to find a player that can play a key veteran role
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Frick too late
But sbb to seoul could work out tbh
You need to utilise him well though
He's good at certain heroes
But his leadership is the only reason you really go and pick him up as seoul
Use SBB to motivate Profit/Gesture to play as if every game is play offs. Win
I can already smell a battle for the best Tracer play.
If they can do that seoul could genuinely be a monstrous team
Sbb good
he hasn't been off the bench for a good while
I am not confident he plays all that well
Sbb good
dont pretend like sbb hasn't seen any playtime lmao
he was still played a decent amount
He played solid
I think at worst SBB just stays on the bench but still motivates everyone
At best he starts and does well
s3 NYXL was mostly sbb haksal tbh
Actually winning them games
so he is still ready to pop off
hmm
i wonder when he'll play then
tracer is meta a lot but will he be picked over profit?
Okay if 1987 Leave Yveltal and all these new pickups can't get chengdu anywhere then idk what to say
I hope they finally see some success
But looking at competition im not sure
But their team is looking good
Spark also looking really good
Damn charge look really good too
And if seoul don't have a bad season they could be really good and shanghai just coming off an insane season they could be really good too but they are missing diem and fearless
Apac looking lowkey stacked
Not as stacked as na but it looks stacked
Losing diem isn't that big of a deal, but we'll have to see how fate fill in fearless shoes
Dark mode got Muma
I see
well, that is an unfortunate tank lineup
I wonder how muma will do
He was kinda ass in owl
But it's been a decent chunk of time since we've seen him play
He seems very dedicated
if houston keep hydration on MT they need to sell that org and never touch an esport again
Yeah
We haven't won anything in like a month...
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god I fucking love the shock's media person
I think having an insane widow isn't going to be as important for the top tier teams with all the possibilities of new heroes
at least I hope so
that way the playing field is a bit more even
just a little less widow meta really is all I hope for, like it is super fun watching ans, carpe, diem, xzi, etc. be insane but more diversity would be pog
Widow always top tier
Make grapple break
Make her head hitbox the size of roadhog


