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raw ermine
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fake

sullen berry
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i mean he is washing justice

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seems legit to me

raw ermine
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cmon that ones been used twice

sullen berry
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they posted this 2 hours ago

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@valid oxide idk, does this look fake to you? 😏

valid oxide
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I didn't say it was fake???

next mesa
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pog

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Mag Fury

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I hope mag lives up to his expectations

sullen berry
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only one person has said it's fake

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so how are we supposed to convince him, wait until April?

next mesa
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doesn't drag fury down

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I hope 🙏

vagrant jacinth
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Huuuuge

next mesa
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yes

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also in dpei's interview

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oge is confirmed to have found a team

sullen berry
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@raw ermine you've never heard of the washjustice discord server

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when you click add a server

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type in the server invite link washjustice

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it's their official twitter handle

tawdry hamlet
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Justice are hopefully going to be good

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their roster is pogchamp

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atm

next mesa
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people are doubting their support line

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but

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I believe

tawdry hamlet
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I wonder who is weakest on the roster

vagrant jacinth
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Same I have faith

tawdry hamlet
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support line looks pretty good to me at least?

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I mean Bebe Closer isn't bad

vagrant jacinth
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Mag fury is big stonks

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I agree, I think they could be pretty dece

tawdry hamlet
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Mag Fury Decay Jerry Closer Bebe will be pog

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not quite sure where ttuba fits in

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is he flex or projectile?

next mesa
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doesn't flex and projectile mean the same thing these days

tawdry hamlet
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I guess so

next mesa
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I guess he is projectile

tawdry hamlet
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but is he like a specialist or is he their main projectile because I see Jerry on ashe a lot

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ah I guess Jerry would be backup for decay then? since I imagine decay hitscan better than jerry

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unless they ran double snipes sometimes

next mesa
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he is their only flex

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so

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yeah

tawdry hamlet
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hmm, then I guess Jerry bench time

next mesa
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well

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double hitscan is pretty common meta

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like ashe tracer

tawdry hamlet
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that is true

next mesa
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in that case I would assume decay goes on tracer and jerry goes on ashe

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im not sure

tawdry hamlet
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I forget about tracer on the hitscan metas

next mesa
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projectiles kinda suck

tawdry hamlet
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since usually a team has someone that is like their main tracer player

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I wonder who would run it for justice

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who ran tracer with ttuba and stitch?

next mesa
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well striker is the best tracer in the world but his ashe and reaper not too shabby either DVaSmug

tawdry hamlet
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tbh, I didn't even know colorhex was a flex

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I thought he was just hitscan OmegaLul

next mesa
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heh

tawdry hamlet
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so I guess it makes sense why they picked up im37

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although I would have liked to see boston put chex in the dedicated hitscan and just pick up a better player at a different role tbh

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idk chex isn't good

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but if they are gonna keep him I would just keep him hitscan and find a better player for the other roles

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not that it would help anyway

worn falcon
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Wait

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Ivy to NYXL?

next mesa
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yea

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bruh

tawdry hamlet
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tbh their whole team just bad besides myun

next mesa
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old rumors 🗿

worn falcon
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Teh fuck

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Already woke up lol

raw ermine
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wait washjustice is real?

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I thought that was the fake one

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
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BRUH

worn falcon
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Meanwhile Justice with Fury

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But they have CLOSER

next mesa
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shut

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I trust

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owl champion DVaSmug

tawdry hamlet
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tbh if they perform how they should I see justice being like florida last season

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good but not top top tier

true hound
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just saw justice with fury

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gg

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that is nutty

next mesa
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we'll see how decay can fuck with MAG FURY tankline

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prob top 5

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tank line

true hound
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mag fury decay

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😳

next mesa
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big trio

raw ermine
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kinda nuts

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is mag a good winston?

next mesa
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🥰

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I think so

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isn't his hero pool like

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similar to fearless

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dont quote me on this

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yeah

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signature heroes

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rein winston

raw ermine
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so excellent rein, nuts winston, pretty good orisa, and pretty good ball

next mesa
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yeah

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lowkey have not seen fearless ball doe lmao

raw ermine
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it's all stand1

worn falcon
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3 weeks trials

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Heck

raw ermine
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hmm

tawdry hamlet
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fuck it seominsoo

raw ermine
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what teams done?

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am i dumb or does that not make any sense?

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what teams can teach him, maybe?

next mesa
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lmao

tawdry hamlet
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probs chinese translation

next mesa
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can't wait to see seominsoo fuck on some weirdass ow2 character dude

karmic grotto
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illegal

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magfurydecay riabebeclosettubajerry

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illegal

silk frost
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OH MY FURY

wanton birch
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i think spark is looking like a dark horse this season

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i think lige could very well be a top 5 off tank

silk frost
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I 100% agree

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He has some of the highest potential of any player from contenders

karmic grotto
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Season 4 gonna be interesting

tropic herald
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If OGE doesn’t get picked up

next mesa
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👍

trail perch
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YES

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OGE FOR MAYHEM

raw ermine
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I could see that

silk frost
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Oge for Boston bro

sullen berry
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OGE for Houston

worn falcon
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OGE for NYXL

raw ermine
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OGE for dallas

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wait

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he must complete the trio

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OGE to Wash

fierce trench
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YEET

silk frost
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Trio?

raw ermine
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like decay, he must go to LAG, DF, and WJ

noble nexus
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toronto sado

weak bolt
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KDG rumours are true

noble nexus
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new fusion on toronto?

tropic herald
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toronto actually gonna be a competitive team now

noble nexus
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didn't they keep beast tho?

raw ermine
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"breathing heavily"

plush grail
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fusion legit throwing?

tropic herald
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fusion still look good

tawdry hamlet
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a main tank diff won't be enough to make toronto competitive without another major pickup

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or a favored meta

plush light
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Wtf is going on

raw ermine
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it a hell of a start

worn falcon
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the fuck

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Logix, Beast, Aztac, Ansoonjae and Sado

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wtf

weak bolt
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and Fury

tropic herald
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no

weak bolt
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wait nvm

tropic herald
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fury is on justice lole

weak bolt
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Why did I think Fury was defiant, damnit

tropic herald
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Defiant looks very solid rn

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just need to get a solid OT and round out the dps lien

chrome cosmos
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Damn

silk frost
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WHAT THE FUCK

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SADO DEFIANT

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Toronto has the weirdest fucking roster

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Logix, Sado, Beast, Aztac, Ansoonjae

raw ermine
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ik

silk frost
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Does Beast ever see playtime

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like ever

raw ermine
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probably not

tidal ridge
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philadelphia defiant?

slow kraken
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What about rascal to Toronto

raw ermine
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I would cry tear of joy

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but I think it was leaked fusion were in the lead for his contract

slow kraken
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Ah

next mesa
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If shockwave signed

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I doubt heesu stays

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Not sure though

raw ermine
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wait

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that article about shockwave

next mesa
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It says fusion signed shockwave

raw ermine
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yeah

slow kraken
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So rascal is probs not to phili

raw ermine
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well

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shock is hitscan

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not projectile

slow kraken
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True

raw ermine
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so their is still room

slow kraken
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Toronto should sign flex player chipsa

vagrant jacinth
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What fuck

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Sado to Toronto

next mesa
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Shockwave does cover echo

karmic grotto
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Shock wave is in your back line

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What you do

plush grail
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ignore

silk frost
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cockwave destroys your backline

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what now

plush grail
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ameng destroyed cockwave and defended his healers

silk frost
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fair point

plush grail
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ameng is now in YOUR backline

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what do you do

balmy wolf
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WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT !

cedar oasis
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Cockwave or cumlocked

unreal venture
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why was the entire nyxl roster released?

raw ermine
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cause they probably wanna go in a different firection

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direction*

noble nexus
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idk why they want to rebuild around Jjonak

next mesa
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😶

cedar oasis
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Jjonack can be good

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He needs to learn to not feed

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And get better at bap

plush grail
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honestly ark jjonak was kinda perfect

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jjonak tends to dps alot

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but ark is VERY passive

next mesa
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that's not perfect though

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if u had

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jjonak slime 👀

trail perch
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yes

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yes

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The power

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Add jjanu and stich

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stitch

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and bumper

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make titans v2 with jjonak

raw ermine
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whoa BH is down 1-0

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oh no they are being full held on route 66

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obey alliance popping off

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OH NO

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BH DOWN 2-0

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THEY LOST 1-0 ON ROUTE 66

plush grail
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london spotfire is boomed

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if bh lose this so badly

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are they still gonna sign bh

raw ermine
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its not the end of the world

plush grail
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yeah im jokin

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they're just having a offday

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which sucks cause they had that nice streak

raw ermine
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they drew on blizzard world last map b4 route 66

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the commentators are saying obey are playing super well, as opposed to bh sucking

plush grail
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bh is pretty much already the london spitfire

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but with this performance, some obey players might also make owl

raw ermine
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naga is doing so much annoying poke

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ok

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the script is normalizing

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obey got full held first point by BH on anubis

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2-1

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they took it back

raw ermine
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obey alliance are 1 control map away from beating BH

plush grail
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it's gonna be fun if london goes up against dallas

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sparkr and sparkle are gonna be annoying to cast at the same timje

raw ermine
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damn

cedar oasis
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They tied it up

raw ermine
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sparkr got a 5-6 k and save BH

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map 6, 2-2

cedar oasis
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Even If bh lose they can still come back in the losers bracket

plush grail
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still tho if they lose

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streak gone

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that would suck

raw ermine
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bh up 1-0 on ilios

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OA are running winston rein

plush grail
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idk if im just bad at remembering but ive never seen rein winston on owl

raw ermine
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probably didn't happen

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1-1

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final map

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the winston rein worked

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50-0 up for obey alliance

tropic herald
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wtf is helv doing lol

plush grail
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lmao yeah i looked away from my screen for a sec and he was charging the sigma away from the fight

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lmaoooo

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why is he just charging in, backup up and going back in

raw ermine
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the pin on molf was nice

plush grail
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helv has become bumper junior

raw ermine
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ohhh

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BH might win in the 11th hour

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omfg

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BH won

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100-90

cedar oasis
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Helv was like I charge of cooldown

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In that last map

plush grail
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the pressure got to him

karmic grotto
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Totrotrot

raw ermine
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He leaked Apply to london, and retracted it less than an hour later

hot heart
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Sado went to defiant

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What OT are they signing then

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Jjanu or meko?

solar bison
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I dont know, maybe Jjanu

silk frost
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Piggy

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maybe GaeBullSsi

solar bison
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Yeah, they could get signed

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An aggressive ot would work well with sado

silk frost
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Zebag should get signed

solar bison
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Whos the justice MT

silk frost
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Mag

solar bison
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Right

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Mag-Fury

silk frost
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yeah

solar bison
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Tank looking good

silk frost
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imo Zebag is the most underappreciated MT in contenders

hot heart
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Ze bag

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Mans gotta get ze bag

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Sorry, I'll see myself out now.

next mesa
hot heart
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But fr defiant signing sado is huge

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Beast went from being a starter possibly

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To always being benched again

next mesa
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forever benched

hot heart
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That mans sad as hell

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But if defiant pick up a decent FS and OT

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This is looking good for them

next mesa
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almost every team looks good on paper bro

hot heart
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And a good flex dps

next mesa
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we just gotta play the games

hot heart
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Fr

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But

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Kdg and sado

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Is a good start

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Idk about logix but his peaks are really good

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Beast was just a mistake i think

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He stays benched

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And you get nothing out of him

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Building for the future maybe

tawdry hamlet
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vancouver I hope signs someone dummy pog like mcgravy

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like someone who could at least be on a team lmao

balmy wolf
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They don’t know if Sado will have a super shitty and inconsistent year, Beast is there if that’s the case I feel

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Like 2019 season 2

silk frost
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not Zebag or Yakpung?

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even Gaga?

balmy wolf
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Beast is cheaper

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By a big margin, Sado must have been pretty expensive

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And beast knows he wont get another offer if he leaves, he’ll probably take whatever he can get

silk frost
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cheaper than gaga?

hot heart
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Dude bouta smurf in contenders

tawdry hamlet
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oof

balmy wolf
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Well hell, they should’ve signed Yeatle

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We all know he’s better than Ameng WidowLUL

raw ermine
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lmao

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After the halo tweet xd

balmy wolf
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Halo had one job

hot heart
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Do any of you think apply deserves a chance in OWL?

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Like

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We wont know since OW 2 is gonna shuffle the meta around ALOT

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So for all we know he could he a top 5 flex dps when OW2 comes out

trail perch
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Not top v5

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Someone like rascal will master all the characters in 1 day

balmy wolf
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He’s a decent contenders player at best, some people are just not meant for OWL

tidal ridge
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he should go to where gig and mcgravy went

hidden vault
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Hmm fusion let sado go??

cobalt spoke
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Yes

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He's a decent player but he just doesnt click with the team and never has

next mesa
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That man's like the third best main tank my guy

cobalt spoke
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I dont even know why they had him this long

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Most of the time fusion loses its becausd "ohh sado fed"

next mesa
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Def wasn't

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He's not even a weak link on the team anymore

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I mean like

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Compared to s2

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And also you don't get swept back to back in gf because of just sado man

cobalt spoke
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It wasn't just sado

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But it was sado

silk frost
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Sado was the 2nd BEST part of the team imo

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behind Alarm

cobalt spoke
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No

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Kindof?

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Good main tanks are hard to find

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If he's supposed to be like 3rd best main tank why does he feed so hard

silk frost
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Carpe never reached top tier status when it mattered, EqO rarely did, Ivy did but it's VERY close between him and Sado, Funnyastro had too inconsistent of a pool to be, and Alarm is just better tho

next mesa
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He doesn't feed hard though

silk frost
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and remember he was originally plucked right out of ranked

cobalt spoke
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Yes he does

next mesa
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Not s2 sado

silk frost
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this was his 3rd year of professional play, 2 and a half years if you consider how he never played in season 1

cobalt spoke
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He blunders way more often than smurf and fearless I know that

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Wait

silk frost
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Fearless is arguably a bigger feeder, it's just Void, Fleta, Lip, and LJG are ALL better players than Philly's corresponding players

cobalt spoke
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No

true hound
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ayo

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no

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Carpe is def better than Lip

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Astro is better than LJG

cobalt spoke
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Shutup

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Also

silk frost
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woah

next mesa
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Woah

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That's a kinda hot take

silk frost
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yeah

true hound
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Carpe is a god

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🙏

silk frost
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Carpe can play Cree and Tracer top tier, otherwise he plays Widow and Ashe well

true hound
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king of choking

silk frost
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and can't go Sombra

true hound
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oh lip has his sombra oops

silk frost
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Lip is the best sombra and a decent Widow, Ashe, ect.

true hound
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I meant on the heroes that overlap

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Carpe is better

cobalt spoke
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Anybody who takes a hard look at smurf's gameplay vs sado's can see that sado is making mistakes smurf isnt

true hound
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on widow, Ashe, cree, tracer

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I would argue carpes cree is the best

silk frost
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I think Xzi is better slightly on Cre

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cree

true hound
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oh xzi is rlly good ye

next mesa
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Honestly look

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Carpe is slightly worse than diem

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On widow

silk frost
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I'd say significantly personally

true hound
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at widow

next mesa
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Only on widow and maybe ashe though

silk frost
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Diem shows up to big games, Carpe doesn't

true hound
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carpes widow is still very up there

next mesa
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You're just underrating carpe

silk frost
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probably

next mesa
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Diem didn't even play

true hound
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I’d say KSP, ANS, Fits, and Decay take the spot of top widows

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And sayaplayer 😔

next mesa
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Would you say he showed up in the grand finals

true hound
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But Carpe is a chad

next mesa
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Diem

silk frost
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well he wasn't in the finals, but I think he showed up in playoffs much more than Carpe did all year tbh

next mesa
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Ayt u just trippin bye

silk frost
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probably lol\

next mesa
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Okay statistically

silk frost
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I mean Diem is a freak

next mesa
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Like in the regular season

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Carpe is the clutchest player

true hound
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ye

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In the league

true hound
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Diem is widow 1v1 god

silk frost
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it doesn't matter how clutch you are vs boston

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it matters how clutch you are vs shock

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and Carpe consistently showed he isn't, while Diem was

true hound
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he still clutches

next mesa
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It's the entire regular season

true hound
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24/7

silk frost
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because he clutches against worse teams

next mesa
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And you don't get to overtime against boston in the first place

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Lol

silk frost
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fair lol

next mesa
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Clutch stat only overtime

silk frost
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but you see my point

next mesa
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Yeah

true hound
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doesn’t Carpe statistically smash the fuck out of everyone in terms of clutch

next mesa
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But I just don't think diem is a fair comparaison when he's just benched for the whole season

true hound
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I forgot the stat

next mesa
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Except a few games in summer showdown, and the playoffs

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Which they both lost

silk frost
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that's fair

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but Diem wasn't really the problem

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it was moreso the rest of the team imo

next mesa
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Yeah but I would argue that

silk frost
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Diem pounded Ans in their playoff match

next mesa
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In summer showdown carpe wasn't the problem either

cobalt spoke
true hound
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Diem didn’t pound ANS but matched

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I think fits kinda pounded ANS

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In one half

next mesa
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On like a couple of maps

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Ans did get pounded quite a bit

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But they got striker

silk frost
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a player can't be tied for #1 if they can't play most of their role. FA doesn't play mercy or brig to even a mid teir OWL level, nor can he play Bap or Zen

true hound
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fits and profit were the better dps just Viol2t diff 🙏

next mesa
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Preach

cobalt spoke
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Zen is not part of main support, bap is only kindof part of main support, and funny astro was not a bad mercy player and only got benced for a flex supports brig

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Same thing that shock did btw

silk frost
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did they?

cobalt spoke
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Yes

silk frost
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when?

cobalt spoke
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Ill get a picture

silk frost
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I remember Moth being subbed out for double flex support metas

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but I still think his brig, mercy, and Lucio are all at LEAST top 5

next mesa
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He got subbed out because twilight brig

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Moth?

silk frost
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yeah

next mesa
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His mercy us probably

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#1

silk frost
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yeah

true hound
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Ark

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Lucio def

silk frost
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his mercy and lucio are arguably #1

true hound
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hoe

cobalt spoke
next mesa
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#1 maybe too

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Then maybe tobi

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Dude ark

true hound
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sparkle overwatch

cobalt spoke
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Funny astro is definetly top 3 on ms

silk frost
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I really don't agree with the FA rating so high

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his lucio is top 3

next mesa
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Well

silk frost
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otherwise

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eh

true hound
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top 3 ms:

  1. Carcar
  2. Zykk
  3. Astro
silk frost
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you right

cobalt spoke
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Real

next mesa
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Moth, ljg,

silk frost
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FD

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Honestly could put tobi or astro

silk frost
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moth #1, FDGod #2, LJG #3

next mesa
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Imo

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Fdgod??

cobalt spoke
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No

true hound
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bruh no astro

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Astro doesn’t int

cobalt spoke
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Funnyastro > ljg

true hound
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ya

silk frost
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dude FDGod is a good brig, great lucio, and can play mercy to a level he should be able to based on his team

next mesa
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Not really

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To funny astro > ljg

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Like

cobalt spoke
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Some people say I only think ljg is sloppy because of the 1 map against shock but its not that

silk frost
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Funnyastro is like, a less good version of LJG imo

true hound
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bruh

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other way around

cobalt spoke
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How

true hound
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xd

silk frost
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because #1, LJG is actually a very solid brig

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#2 their lucios are similar

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and ljg can play Mercy, not WELL, but decently

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#2 is about SKILL LEVEL, not playstyle

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dw I'm not that brain dead

next mesa
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I put playoff performance highly and I just wanna say fusion got swept back to bacj

silk frost
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yeah that too

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I think it was more on KDG than the players though

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they tried a little too hard to commit to the goth goats comp

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during scrims at least

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then they couldn't get enough scrim time on other comps

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and not going with fury poko

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I'm rewatching the seoul vs philly match, Alarm got 120% of transcendence before FA got 60% of Valk so far

hot heart
#

What

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Smurf sado and fearless are the top 3

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Not in order ofc

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But they genuinely are the best MTs in OWL

cobalt spoke
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He is

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But at the same time smurf and fearless feel like a tier above

hot heart
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The difference isnt that big

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Overall i mean

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@next mesa

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Lmao

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Lmao

silk frost
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Void why

hot heart
#

Would roar be a good coach

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He might imo

sour magnet
#

Thank god the ria leak was false

silk frost
#

Roar could be solid

hot heart
primal minnow
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Roar was apparently coaching justice through their playoff run so he may be a solid coach

hot heart
#

Hope he's a good coach

lime field
#

hey guys im sort of coming back to overwatch and wanted to know what sort of placements nyxl, seoul and spark are in since they're the teams i was most interested in last time

tropic herald
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@lime field NYXL dropped everyone but Jjonak, seoul have profit and gesture now so that’s cool, Spark have built themselves into a Korean Chinese potential powerhouse

lime field
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ooo ok thanks a lot :)

next mesa
#

Libero is getting picked up bro

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If he doesn't, that just proves everyone in owl is STUPID

trail perch
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Hey guys im coming back to owl, can someone tell me how Crimzo is doing compared to that washed old man Jehong?

next mesa
#

Zbf hello you braindead human being how are you doing in this fine day

cedar oasis
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Play nice kids

next mesa
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(yeah ik we just vibing)

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Good morning crimzo simp

trail perch
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Gm mr Jehong simp

next mesa
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Yeah I'm proud to be the simp of the apex god

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What are you

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Simp of mediocre flex support man

trail perch
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Im proud to simp for my Canadian king

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The man who is better than some koreans

next mesa
#

I'm canadian too he's just bad 🙏

trail perch
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Except he's not 🙏

sullen berry
trail perch
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But mr old man...

sullen berry
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Jehong's busy doing OWL-based content with the players in Korea

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they respect him too much so he kinda gets them to stop speaking in formal tone towards him

hot heart
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Yeah

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He's the one guy everyone respects

trail perch
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Im not saying he's not a good person, just a washed player, like a korean reinforce

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Rogue ruled the early stages of european ow, but after that...

sullen berry
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well that's the intonation if you choose a word like washed

next mesa
#

You just compared Jehong to reinforce

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Alright

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Officially you should get banned

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😊

trail perch
#

Ok im sorry sir

tawdry hamlet
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Reinforce hasn't played pro in like 2 years

sullen berry
#

old man jehong is valid though

tawdry hamlet
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jehong is still better than him lmao

trail perch
#

Jehong deserves respect bc he was jjonaks influence

next mesa
#

He would still be in owl right now if titans didn't MAJOR FUCK UP

tawdry hamlet
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but without titans fuck up we wouldn't have cockwave shining so much

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because his team was shit

trail perch
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He wouldnt play thi

tawdry hamlet
trail perch
#

tho

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Twilight...

sullen berry
#

Slime

next mesa
#

He could def play we don't know who's bap is better

trail perch
#

tru tru

tawdry hamlet
#

It feels like ages since I saw slime play

next mesa
#

Tragic

sullen berry
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because it has been if we aren't following him on Twitch I guess

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bench lad

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he is now a free man

next mesa
#

I hope slime and bumper forms contenders team

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And just wins

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Dude releasing slime

trail perch
#

Slime to spark????

next mesa
#

I just think they're gonna resign tobi

trail perch
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With SMS

next mesa
#

And if you resign tobi

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I mean

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Jehongs just in the package you feel me

tawdry hamlet
#

I wish all the mediocre vet players like sOon and Linkzr just formed a contenders team and shit on everyone

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would be kind of entertaining to see if they even stack up to modern contenders talent nowadays

#

wonder if a team like vancouver will pick up dogman

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that seems like his only hope tbh

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same with paintbrush me thinks

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unless he signed with someone

sullen berry
#

still staying up far too late for this WashJustice announcement

next mesa
#

Paintbrush not getting signed

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After that I'm upset video

sullen berry
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Crimzo however

next mesa
#

Yeah crimzo got signed i think

sullen berry
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what is he up to based on his rumored not without a job tweet

#

next year we keep closing the gap between NA players and KR talent

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and make room for (hopefully) more underrated Chinese Talent

tawdry hamlet
#

tbh I am surprised there are not more chinese owl players

weak bolt
#

I think Language plays into it, from what I gather, a lot of the Chinese players don't speak good enough English or Korean

next mesa
#

That's false

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From what the

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I think it was manager of charge or smt

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Chinese players have just as good english if not better

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I don't know dude

sullen berry
#

poor english from any asian country shouldn't be a surprise - it depends who you cherry pick

tawdry hamlet
weak bolt
#

Must be something about it, the players just never make it onto non-chinese teams

sullen berry
#

Just like how we stopped bringing up more talent from SA, OCE

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the top 3 and PAC are more heavily scouted

weak bolt
#

I think SA and OCE are just a lesser skill level generally. Few exceptions appear every now and again

sullen berry
#

even then nobody knows what's going on with Pacific scene after the ACE tournament

#

yeah but it means something if Dallas would pick up Trill after seeing Boston pick up Chex and later Punk

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there's no guarantee they were even considered in such a smaller region

weak bolt
#

Trill was playing on an NA team though right?

sullen berry
#

envy yeah

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so even before that he looked.. good enough

#

I'd like to think OCE is the house of good non-player talent

#

also watch when polygon decides to bring back this dead website for OW2

#

last post under this category was in July 2019

weak bolt
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@sullen berry not sure it was worth staying up for?

trail perch
#

Wait what

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why

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Would they also sign ria

weak bolt
#

Backups/options I guess

tropic herald
#

Pre said the people he signed performed very well in scrims

sullen berry
#

@weak bolt nah this is exactly what I was looking for. I'm off now

vagrant jacinth
#

Oh, ria

sullen berry
#

i know, you can't expect worse, but most will jump at anything better than ria

hot heart
#

Ria as a backup is solid

#

Or for double OT

raw ermine
#

lmao

#

unsuprisingly, all the teams that have lost in the closed qualifiers for gauntlet are all the teams that came from the open qualifiers

hot heart
#

Whoever wins gauntlet bouta get picked up to OWL

next mesa
#

Who could pick them though

hot heart
#

Any top prospects left in contenders?

next mesa
#

And have empty roster

raw ermine
#

certainly

next mesa
#

London probably only

hot heart
#

I feel like most of them havs been picked up

silk frost
#

Only ones left are under 18

#

And Piggy

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

D

#

I

#

Y

#

A

silk frost
#

Nobody will pick him up

tawdry hamlet
#

Sadge but likely true

silk frost
#

I'm the biggest Diya stan there is

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And I have accepted the unfortunate truth

tawdry hamlet
#

Unless new York really want him I don't see anything happening crome

hot heart
#

What does diya play exactly

raw ermine
#

tracer, widow, ashe, mccree

hot heart
#

Could be good for dallas

tawdry hamlet
#

Hitscan

hot heart
#

He covers tracer and ash

#

*ashe

tawdry hamlet
#

They have Xzi who im sure could run ashe?

silk frost
#

If Dallas wanna risk it

hot heart
#

Nah

#

His ashe is kinda bad

silk frost
#

He is a good tracer, but Apr1ta and Pineapple are better tracers in China

hot heart
#

Would they pick up chinese players though

tawdry hamlet
#

Nyxl could build a pretty cool roster out of leftovers, not really good but cool

hot heart
#

Honestly

#

If you have ivy

#

good start

silk frost
#

Yakpung, Meko, Ivy, Diya, Chara, Jjonak

hot heart
#

Chara would be a great pickup

tawdry hamlet
raw ermine
#

that would be nice

hot heart
#

Honestly i feel like nyxl are gonna pick up jjanu

raw ermine
#

I think NYXL need good coaches

hot heart
#

For some reason

hot heart
silk frost
#

Forgot avout jjanu

tawdry hamlet
#

Oh yeah stitch is fa isn't he?

worn falcon
#

Ria?

#

Wtf

#

Oh well

hot heart
#

Honestly

worn falcon
#

Justice to be a mid-tier team i guess

silk frost
#

Stitch is probably a higher commodity than Diya sadly

hot heart
#

??

worn falcon
#

Better than paris

hot heart
#

They picked up fury

#

Wdym

worn falcon
hot heart
#

Bro

#

Mag fury tankline

next mesa
#

Ria gon be benched

silk frost
#

WAIT

#

WHY THE FUCK

hot heart
#

Mid tier my ass

next mesa
#

Also yeah

silk frost
#

WOULD THEY ALSO GET RIA

tawdry hamlet
#

Stitch is definitely higher than Diya on the list he came off a pretty ok playoff run

hot heart
#

Assuming back up

next mesa
#

Xzi ashe is

hot heart
#

Or double ot

next mesa
#

Questionable

silk frost
#

WHAT DOES RIA DO THAT FURY DOESNT

hot heart
#

Nothinf

next mesa
#

He's like a widow and crew two trick

#

New tank heroes coming

hot heart
#

But we donf question the almighty supreme

silk frost
#

Yeah Diya Xzi let them play the best heroes they have

next mesa
#

You never know Ria might be better at thise

worn falcon
#

Mag, Fury, Decay is a nice frontline, then you see their other teammates

#

I may be wrong

hot heart
#

Yeah

next mesa
#

Sbb to dallas

#

Trust the coaches man

silk frost
#

Trashe for Diya and McWidow for Xzi

hot heart
worn falcon
#

But i am betting on mid tier, like Glads

next mesa
#

McWidow LUL

#

Fuckin mcdonald's meal

hot heart
#

No way glads is mid tier

silk frost
#

Dude Glads might be #1 next year

hot heart
#

Just no way

tawdry hamlet
#

Jerry Ttuba isn't that bad of a damage line

#

And closer is a pretty ok support

worn falcon
#

I mean like season 3 Glads

#

Not current

hot heart
#

MuZe Space Kevster Birdring Shu moth

#

Thats a great squad

hasty sable
#

I swear Dallas might actually have a chance

silk frost
#

Waiting for the moment Glads sign Rascal

tawdry hamlet
#

Finally birdring and space have a decent team around them Salutations

hot heart
hasty sable
#

no philly and rascal

silk frost
#

Don't overhype dallas this year guys

tawdry hamlet
#

Philly carpe rascal pogwave deadass

silk frost
#

Expect a top 5 NA finish

hasty sable
worn falcon
#

The thing with teams is working on their synergies, good pickups and all but with shitty synergy is trash

#

Outluls

hot heart
#

Philly and toronto are the two i expect for rascal

hasty sable
#

yeah

silk frost
#

Dude Glads I'm telling you

hot heart
#

Toronto seemingly have the money

silk frost
#

Bring back the apex squad

tawdry hamlet
#

I doubt Toronto will shell out money to rascal high salary when they have a meh team

silk frost
#

The DPS duo from 2017

hasty sable
#

Glads have been underwhelming the past 2 years it's the coaching staff

silk frost
#

S2 they were top 5

hot heart
#

If they pickup rascal they automatically are better than whatever paris can do

#

And Vanu

worn falcon
#

Season 2 they were good

tawdry hamlet
#

That can be said for everyone

hot heart
#

*vancouver

worn falcon
#

Season 3 went downhill

tawdry hamlet
#

Paris has no roster

#

So like

silk frost
#

Paris are a likely #20

hasty sable
#

in season 2 they where underwhelming no less they were expected to be like top 3

hot heart
#

Even if they picked people up

worn falcon
#

Pickup YnB contendies

hot heart
#

Who else is lefr

silk frost
#

Muma

hasty sable
#

also congrats to crusty for being nominated for coach of the year

worn falcon
#

Mek0

hot heart
#

Oh no no no

#

Muma

silk frost
#

Muma Xepher frontline

worn falcon
#

All the 3 released from NYXL

silk frost
#

Dude Crusty should be esports coach of ever

tawdry hamlet
#

Wonder who vancouver will pick up deadass

hasty sable
worn falcon
#

My boi SBB peepocry

silk frost
#

Vancouver probably looking for Molf1g

hasty sable
#

yeah

worn falcon
#

Does vanc wants to spend monies?

#

Or going contendies pick again?

silk frost
#

Not on Koreans that's all I knoe

#

Know

raw ermine
#

muma xepher, daemin, tviq, fahzix, sky

silk frost
#

Dont sleep on Sky bro

worn falcon
#

Freefeed

silk frost
#

Sky is still better than Rawkus

tawdry hamlet
#

Wait if philly gets rascal they'll have 4 dps

raw ermine
#

It was leaked they were in the lead for the contract

tawdry hamlet
#

Vancouver looks so grim crome

#

Tragic

#

Especially since pogwave leaving and most good supports were picked up I see another 4-20 season or whatever they went

#

I can't even think of any good fits for vancouver lmao other than washed up na players like dogman

#

When your best dps is dalton what choices do you really have deadass

worn falcon
#

Shockwave to outluls

digital cloud
#

he would be good for them to have

#

probably not for his career

hot heart
#

Shockwave to a team with good coaches and im happy

#

He could thrive under a good system

#

Toronto really should have dropped logix and signed shockwave imo

next mesa
#

Crimzo probably signed with titans

#

Literally only team he can go McCreeLUL

trail perch
#

Or any other western team

#

Bc hes the best western FS

#

Maybe london

next mesa
#

there is no western team

#

oh yeah that

#

they are probably gonna sign the winners of gauntlet

trail perch
#

Maybe Houston if they cant find a korean

#

Maybe paris

#

He has options

next mesa
#

paris still holding trials

#

he said he found an offer like

#

long time ago

trail perch
#

Then prob titans

#

bc they dropped roolf right?

next mesa
#

no roolf is still there

#

carcar gone

trail perch
#

Oh then maybe london

#

Or Paris signed him early

#

Maybe another team is secretly hoarding western players

tawdry hamlet
#

Doesn't florida have a spot or two?

#

Or did they just drop a few and are running without I don't remember

#

Same for reign? Anyone know if they have any plans?

worn falcon
#

Huh, forgot ratlanta

tawdry hamlet
#

Oh yeah they dropped their extras and just have a full roster now I think

#

No backups but a roster

worn falcon
#

They still have gator hawk

tawdry hamlet
#

Oh yeah they got pelican

#

Forgot about that

worn falcon
#

Masaa, edison, sharp, lr1s, pelican

next mesa
#

they have lr1s why would they sign

#

crimzo

tawdry hamlet
worn falcon
#

The spots are in Toronto, Vanc, London, Paris, Houston

next mesa
#

dont know if gator and hawk is the move anymore

#

might still be

tawdry hamlet
#

Gator is meh but main tank isn't a massively important role so maybe

#

It's big I know but like not make or break I guess

next mesa
#

bruh main tank is so important

#

have you seen justice without roar

#

exactly g

tawdry hamlet
worn falcon
#

With muma

tawdry hamlet
#

What if they kek and run decay at off tank again

next mesa
#

I mean they got fury now

#

lol

tawdry hamlet
#

That would be hilarious if they benched two off tanks and put decay on zarya RadicalBroski

plush light
#

That would be pog

tawdry hamlet
#

Im more excited to watch the scrub teams compete this season, they are all going to be so meh

#

I imagine valiant will be king of mid tier teams

#

With reign closely behind

#

And then above them dallas philly shock glads and maybe florida but idk

next mesa
#

dont forget the apac teams

#

yes im just excited about florida

hot heart
#

Look

#

If florida dont pick up a big name player

tawdry hamlet
#

Oh yeah, if they do cross region competing again then for sure apac mid tier spark domination methinks

hot heart
#

Imma be sad as fuck

tawdry hamlet
#

I wonder if seoul will be able to back up their playoff performance and be a power house or if they will go 12-12 green

#

Also shanghai plus fate and erster bout to slap ass

next mesa
#

nah

#

they will go 12-12

#

and then in the playoffs

#

profit and gesture's just gonna be like

#

👀

#

yo what up

#

it's time

tawdry hamlet
#

I just don't see how tf they sucked so hard all season when they clearly have some of the best players in the league

#

It isn't like apac was full of hard competition when you looked at London and Chengdu and Spark

next mesa
#

spark was better than seoul

tawdry hamlet
#

Exactly

#

I don't get their playoff performance crome

#

They could be so good if they just were actually good

next mesa
#

it's called

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

turning it up

#

and also

#

just being bad

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

gesture is actually just

#

kinda poopoo sometimes

#

in the regular season

#

that's why I think they should play marve1 more

tawdry hamlet
#

I think hog meta really helped

next mesa
#

yes doy

#

when sig is meta they can have marve1 on sig and all is well

tawdry hamlet
#

Who do you think is the worst owl dps of all time?

#

Methinks saucy is up there maybe

next mesa
#

I don't know someone from boston

#

illicit also

tawdry hamlet
#

True, maybe in the hitscan role of dps I'd go chex

#

But then again hitscan is so stacked it's hard to tell

weak bolt
#

Blasé has to be up there for his mcree

hot heart
#

Blasè has the best mccree in OWL Wdym

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah but blase as a whole isn't that bad, I wonder who overall just wasn't good ever

weak bolt
#

I think if asking that, you probably need to set a minimum number of maps played or something

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

the 10 players better just be the whole seoul dynasty roster

trail perch
#

Including jehong?

next mesa
#

yes

#

obv

trail perch
#

I thought he was perfect

weak bolt
#

If we go off stats; All dps heroes, at least 30 mins played in S3. The worst for Elims is Architect, and worst for Final Blows is Erster. Erster also lowest on damage per 10

trail perch
#

Chex is the worst

#

easy

weak bolt
#

Chex actually rates pretty high if you consider all heroes, which I think is fair when he had to flex every game basically

#

Although the stats also put Jerry at #1 in Final Blows, Elims and Damage per 10. So.....

trail perch
#

But he himself is awful

#

His mechanics are bad

#

And he doesnt deserve to be in owl

next mesa
#

jerry DVaSmug

trail perch
#

My opinion

weak bolt
#

Chex really isn't bad at the heroes he plays

next mesa
#

also that list is a joke, never min

#

d

weak bolt
#

Problem is he was forced to play heroes he isn't good at

#

As boston too cheap for subs

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah when chex is your best widow, and then you sign jerry who only plays reaper ashe cree pretty much you kind of force chex to play everything he's not great at

#

Not that his widow is insane either it's just meh

#

Like Logix tier widow at best

weak bolt
#

His widow is probably mid tier, but like his projectile heroes are his strong point mainly

next mesa
#

define mid tier

tawdry hamlet
#

They just need a stronger flex, like shock could get by just striker ans but chex jerry isn't nearly flexible enough

hot heart
#

Mid tier next year is gonna be around top tier in s1

tawdry hamlet
hot heart
#

The tiers change in terms of skill alot

#

Chex is just bad

#

On his heroes

#

He's okay

#

Just fine

#

Nothing else

weak bolt
#

He's also on Boston, which never helps how you appear as a player

tawdry hamlet
#

Idk where tiers even go anymore, I can't decide if ksp is mid or top tier tbh

weak bolt
#

Also StatLab is annoying as fuck. It defaults to playoffs only for Data rather than all the season

#

Regular season, across all DPS heroes with 30+ mins of time. Who do you think is #1 for Elims / 10 mins lol

next mesa
#

isn't it jerry

tawdry hamlet
#

Imma go uhh fleta

weak bolt
#

Nah Jerry was playoffs, cause Statlab filter is dumb

tawdry hamlet
weak bolt
#

It's Super, at 25.6 per 10 mins

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

seems accurate

tawdry hamlet
weak bolt
#

Sp9rkle 2nd, then Ta1y0, Striker, SharP, Rascal lol

tawdry hamlet
#

Makes sense

#

Summer showdown made his genji stats go stonks

weak bolt
#

yeah