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hot heart
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Wait

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idk lol

hot heart
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He was in OWL??

next mesa
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a few months

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or 1 season

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yeah but he was benched

hot heart
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On what team

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I forgot

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one of the apac

limber pine
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Revenge was a backup to bebe

hot heart
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Like tornto or something

next mesa
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chengdu?

hot heart
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Ohhh

limber pine
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ironically

hot heart
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Okay

next mesa
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oh really

hot heart
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Hmm

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Like

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Idk man

next mesa
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idk like

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his zen is actually kinda nasty

hot heart
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Who was the third player that was rumoured

limber pine
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closer

hot heart
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Yeah no bebes zen is pretty good

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Okay so

next mesa
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okay yeah he was on spark

silk frost
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We've reached a point where the best players left are either European or chinese

hot heart
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There was def better than closer

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Bebe i can understand

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Ria i can maybe understand

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Closer

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Not really

limber pine
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who's left for FS

hot heart
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Probably just contenders FS

limber pine
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Neko and Revenge in Contenders

silk frost
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1987, Mmonk off the top of my head

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Nekon is MS now

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Neko

limber pine
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oh yeah i forgot

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Mmonk joined chasers

limber pine
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heck they could still sign him though

silk frost
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And Revenge is solidly below the 2 chinese prospects

hot heart
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Hmm

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Why didnt justice try and go for Coldest

limber pine
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bdosin is LFT I think

next mesa
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yeah dude

hot heart
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Or bdosin even

next mesa
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bdosin

silk frost
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Oh yeah bdosin

next mesa
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bdosin is so fucking good

silk frost
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Jehong

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oh yeah that old man too 👀

hot heart
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So

silk frost
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Jehong tobi reunion on Justice??

hot heart
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Justice just bases off these pick ups are probably like 6th in NA

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Is like my guess

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?

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Uhh

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Okay

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maybe dude

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I think tobi is going whereever jehong is going

silk frost
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Eh Justice will probably start the same as 2020

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And end the same too

hot heart
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Tobi to justice

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Id actually like

silk frost
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Except without the miraculous playoffs run

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I predict Justice will be around 7th

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In NA

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Or eaten alive in APAC

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silk frost
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Interesting

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Kaiser on his way to retirement then

next mesa
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that's really sad

silk frost
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Karayan gonna grind and then come back to dumpster Super

next mesa
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yakpung to nyxl is

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pretty much TracerThumbsUp then

silk frost
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I guess

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Unless they try and get lile

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Like*

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Jehong MT

next mesa
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pog

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jehong's rein though

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could prob dumpster fearless and super combined

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no sweat

silk frost
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Its ultimate

balmy wolf
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Super still hasn’t resigned to shock

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Whose looking for a MT right now in OWL

noble nexus
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outlaws

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lul

worn falcon
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they have hydration

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ez

noble nexus
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ah yeah wouldn't want to downgrade or anything

balmy wolf
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Super to Glads, Muze Winston orisa player?

hot heart
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Karayan is only on O2 blast for the duration of tha gauntlet

worn falcon
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According to Liquipedia Outlaws still have Boink, Danteh, Hydration and Meko

hot heart
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He's Still LFT OWL

worn falcon
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Mek0 is LFT but not released...yet

noble nexus
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they resigned danteh

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they're probably just going to let contracts expire

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and haven't made the goodbye posts

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I hope so atleast

earnest leaf
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Both super and viol2t never posted a lft tweet

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So my guess is they stay with shock

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Or super retires

noble nexus
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I assume they're trying to stay on the shock for reasonable money

earnest leaf
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Also viol2t's ego is probably too big to go to a team that potentially is worse than shock lol

noble nexus
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lmao

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super said if he got traded to boston he'd retire

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so did sinatraa tbf

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that must be the worst thing to happen to an owl player

weak bolt
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Only if you have a stream you can fall back on

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For most, Boston + 50k salary > Contenders

next mesa
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yeah

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contenders just poor

cobalt spoke
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He re-signed to shock

next mesa
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super wants to 3 peat man

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3 peat and you are better than lunatic hai

digital cloud
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lunatic hai couldn't make it in owl

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they are already better

next mesa
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I know skill wise obviously

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I mean title

digital cloud
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ah

next mesa
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better legacy

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3 peat

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and it's a dynasty ~~

cobalt spoke
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super is going to 3 peat, then leave

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Then 3 peat again

next mesa
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michael jordan of owl

cobalt spoke
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Just like mj

next mesa
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W

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is he gonna come back after the second 3 peat

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play for 1 season be dogshit MeiHeh

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wait actually

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mj was still pretty good

hot heart
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Has jehong ever talked about shock?

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I wonder what he thinks about all teams in OWL

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Like

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"not bad i guess"

hot heart
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If he had to describe each of them in a sentence

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What would it be

hot heart
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Really?

next mesa
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no LOL

hot heart
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Imagine

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I DONT SPEAK KOREAN

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"we could've fucked them if we had esca and whoru tbh"

hot heart
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That seems like jehong lmao

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God apex was amazing

next mesa
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"honestly if esca didn't go to military this year we would've completed 3 peat already"

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😌

hot heart
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Honestly id roll Viol2t on any hero

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Imagine if he said that

next mesa
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honestly dude

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jehong prob could totally say that

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and nobody would be mad

digital cloud
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I would be

next mesa
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viol2t is just

hot heart
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I feel jehong is too nice for that

next mesa
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"whatever u say old man"

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uwu

hot heart
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Jehong is OWL's granddad

tidal ridge
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where is ryujehong going

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idk

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literally my status

silk frost
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I miss Lunatic Hai

next mesa
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omg 15 years old whoru singing

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I still remember

hot heart
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Man

next mesa
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no he's waiting for esca military

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RUN IT BACK

solar bison
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How long is korean service

next mesa
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20 months about

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some are like 18 some are 22

solar bison
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Ok

tidal ridge
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when did he go to the military

next mesa
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idk

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I think earlier this year

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not sure

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dude if esca went to the military same time as jehong

silk frost
noble nexus
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that was when they dropped everyone

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and before they resigned him

next mesa
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...........

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jjonak jail

hot heart
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That reminds me of when sp9rk1e replied to dalla fuel re-signing Doha

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"Slave Doha!"

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proceeds to join dallas

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"Slave sp9rk1e!"

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everyone slave now

hidden vault
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is ark still on Washington?

noble nexus
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nah

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he retired I think

cobalt spoke
cedar oasis
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Ugly

next mesa
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shock sign libero plz

cedar oasis
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Libero to shock

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Libero has always been top 5 flex dps

next mesa
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yes

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thank you

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stop benching libero

cedar oasis
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If libero doesnt find a team

fierce ferry
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im gonna smash something

cedar oasis
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Same

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I think anamo should find a team aswel

next mesa
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anamo??

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maybe

cedar oasis
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He is a solid A tier support

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He just plays passive

sullen berry
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Ah yes, Daemin, day out

raw ermine
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hes back

hot heart
next mesa
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Maybe

hot heart
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Dude was bamboozled by HuK to stay on boston

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Thought he was signing a contract with SHD

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Probably

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Im surprised he didn't go to someone like SHD tho

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Or like

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Any team other than boston

trail perch
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Why would Myungbong go to shd?

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They have izeyaki and molly

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izayaki

next mesa
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he might be a minor upgrade over izayaki

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molly??

trail perch
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2 way

next mesa
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oh yeah

trail perch
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right?

next mesa
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wait

trail perch
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I think it wouldnt be worth it

next mesa
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I think that's just a rumor

trail perch
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synergy

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oh was it not official>

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?

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yeah

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it's not on their website

sullen berry
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Anyways chengdu having their star chinese talent moving over to Shanghai, that ain't bad

solar bison
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Well it was a year ago, the izayaki trade

hot heart
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I feel like molly with the right coaching could be top tier

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Might be a hot take but idc

next mesa
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kinda like izayaki last year

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I mean on valiant

cedar oasis
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Mano will be the best mt next year

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I am calling it now

trail perch
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I hope not

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I lowkey dislike philly

cedar oasis
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Dont hate on mano

trail perch
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I dont

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Im from NYC

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A NYXL fan

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I love mano

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But I dont like philly

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I wish he stayed with NYXL

cedar oasis
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Philly disappointed alot of thier fans

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Nyxl will still be good I think

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But not top 5

trail perch
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Hope so

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They might be if IMT can get his shit together

cedar oasis
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Thier coaching was kinda trash last yeat

trail perch
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Idea time, if this new team can play agressive, and enable jjonak

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They might be top 5 again

tidal ridge
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me when the libero

trail perch
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under good coaching ivy>Libero

cedar oasis
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Libero under good coaching is the best

trail perch
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Mechanically Ivy can match libero

cedar oasis
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I dont think so

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libero > rascal

trail perch
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No

cedar oasis
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Ivy was washed season 2

hot heart
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No

trail perch
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Rascal>everyone

next mesa
hot heart
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Rascal is def better

cedar oasis
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No

hot heart
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Libero is like

trail perch
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Yes

hot heart
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Rascal

next mesa
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im just trolling

hot heart
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But a bit worse

next mesa
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but libero is the closest thing to rascal

trail perch
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Prob

hot heart
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Yeah in terms of hero pool

next mesa
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skill as well

trail perch
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EQO is western rascal

tidal ridge
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sfs better sign libero

hot heart
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Eh

cedar oasis
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We havent seen libero under the crust

next mesa
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libero is just so consistent

trail perch
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and no one can change my mind

hot heart
cedar oasis
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We dont know if racial falls of without the crust

next mesa
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honestly nyxl might have done better if they ran libero instead of haksal

hot heart
next mesa
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like stop benching a literal gem my guy

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he's a starter

trail perch
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Haksal is more than that

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Haksal is a god

hot heart
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Honestly if libero and nenne were under a good coach and surrounded by good pieces

trail perch
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Haksal has been touched by the bumper

hot heart
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They'd be an incredible dps duo

cedar oasis
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Libero is better than haksal in everything except genji

hot heart
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No

next mesa
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and doom

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I think libero has better echo and mei

trail perch
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HAKSAL HAS BEEN BUMPERED

hot heart
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Haksal has a better doom and mei

trail perch
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and genji

cedar oasis
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Liberos doom was very good

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So was his mei

trail perch
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We saw the head to head s2

tidal ridge
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super is sfs' new projectile dps

trail perch
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Winners finals

hot heart
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If shock pick up libero

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That would be insane

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Libero under the crust

tidal ridge
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remember when architect played ana

hot heart
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Yeah

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He was actually a good ana

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If i remember correctly

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Dude is incredible

tidal ridge
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i wonder if architect is still doing good in apac

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i dont watch apac

hot heart
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HZ just flopped

tidal ridge
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yeah, he has like 100% sleep accuracy
bruh

cedar oasis
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He kinda got worse

hot heart
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Nah

cedar oasis
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He wasent under the crust

hot heart
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I think it was just HZ being ass

next mesa
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architect didn't just get worse

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rarely anyone gets worse

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people justbetter

hot heart
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People like architect dont just get worse

tidal ridge
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is rascal or architect better

next mesa
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rare case is like maybe nenne after his injury

hot heart
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I think rascal is better

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In terms of like

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How talented he is

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In terms of like hero pool

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Architect has the bigger hero pool i think

tidal ridge
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i think rascal, architect, and libero are the better projectile dps

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in the league

hot heart
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Fleta too

tidal ridge
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and fleta

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yeah

hot heart
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And profit

tidal ridge
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profit had a meh season until playoffs

hot heart
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Yeah kinda

cedar oasis
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Profit is kinda inconsistent

tidal ridge
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profit and gesture thrive off the pressure

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which is how they made it to the grand finals

hot heart
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I genuinely think he doesnt give a fuck until playoffs

tidal ridge
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he doesnt

hot heart
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Then he just rolls

tidal ridge
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neither does gesture or even bdosin

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cant recall if bdosin even played though

next mesa
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bdosin did play

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against shock

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I htink on havana

cedar oasis
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Did hotba retire

next mesa
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and crusty was like

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man bdosin is so annoying 😩

tidal ridge
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what if OWL matches worked like LoL where each team banned a hero

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for the game

noble nexus
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brig perma banned

next mesa
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yeah bdosin did play

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winners semi final

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after they were down 0-2

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he came and fucked

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okay I think that would be great @tidal ridge

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like a hero each round

tidal ridge
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or map

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but since LoL has like more champions each player bans a champion

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in OWL only 2 would be banned

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since 2 teams

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since we have less heroes

cedar oasis
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That sounds awful

next mesa
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yeah map

cedar oasis
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A team has to practice 3 different comps

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That sounds bad

next mesa
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no they dont lol

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they are probably banning similar things

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on each map

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& it gives more strategy

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instead of hero pool its just everyone

tidal ridge
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they could also throw their ban by banning like symmetra or soldier

next mesa
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they wouldn't

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but like imagine they ban ball

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and ameng just have to adapt

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and then one map they dont ban ball

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so ameng goes ball

tidal ridge
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LOL chengdu is fucked

next mesa
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and its like YEET jebaited 6 stuns

tidal ridge
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imagine clockwork vendetta in the league

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they just ban torb

next mesa
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countercomp

cobalt spoke
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I dont like hero bans

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There are way to many strong synergies amd hard counters for it imo

raw ermine
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yeah

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felt highly futile

weak bolt
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Toronto continuing with the 'Huh?' style roster

next mesa
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WHO??

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LOL

plush grail
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who????

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i saw the first part

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''ans''

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and i was like holy shit

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and then i just went who

true hound
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who

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element mystic player, it seems. only been playing with them for 7 months

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main support

hot heart
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So he was benched

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Im assuming

raw ermine
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huh

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I remember him. Read his PF today

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Y'all remember when hotba played moira?

next mesa
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I see

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uh no

weak bolt
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It probably wouldnt be a bad signing if the rest of the team looked good. But so far it's him, Beast and Logix lol

digital cloud
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Didn’t they also get aztaz

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Aztac*

weak bolt
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ah yeah true

plush grail
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a literal who, beast and logix

weak bolt
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So rookie support lineup

raw ermine
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I thought ASJ was a dps

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idk why

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but now we have a support line

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aztac ASJ

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not bad

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poggers

hot heart
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Very well deserved

vagrant jacinth
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Pog

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Big pog

plush grail
karmic grotto
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?

weak bolt
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Nice to see some more OCE representation in OWL at least

karmic grotto
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Valiant sees hidden talent

weak bolt
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Offtank by looks of it

vagrant jacinth
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Idk who Toronto signed either

weak bolt
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Zarya/Dva player

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Looks like he played on the best Australian contenders team

raw ermine
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ahhh adam

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nice

weak bolt
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Gives Custa even more reason to fanboy over LAV

silk frost
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YOOOO SOEEE

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I love SOe

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soe

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Adam may be able to knock out Punk for #2 western OT

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also Henningsen is on Shu's Money Crew

weak bolt
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I do love how Packing10 is in a full on battle vs Halo over leaks lol

silk frost
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lol

next mesa
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if you have logix as your main hitscan i just dont think ur gonna win

silk frost
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I don't agree

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I think if you have Beast as your primary main tank

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then you lose

solar bison
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100%

next mesa
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true

weak bolt
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Logix has the potential, but he's been cursed with awful teams

next mesa
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nah like

silk frost
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Logix on like

next mesa
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I think logix is no doubt a good player

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but the hitscan role in the league

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is just so stacked

solar bison
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Yeah, logix is good, not great though

next mesa
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yeah

solar bison
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Stiff competition

weak bolt
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His biggest boost is his tracer is also pretty good

next mesa
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mmhmm

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the only hitscans that might be worse than logix is like jerry and sbb

silk frost
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his tracer, widow, and cree are all top 10

next mesa
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no

solar bison
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With people like Carpe, Ans, LIP, Heesu, KSP, etc

silk frost
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I really rate Logix

weak bolt
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He's a bit like Linkzr imo. Very peaky

silk frost
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fair

solar bison
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Hitscan is a stacked role, along with flex support

silk frost
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but I think his peaks are betteR

weak bolt
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When he pops off, he does work. But some games hes just a bit invisible

next mesa
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here are some of the hitscans

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fits ans bqb carpe heesu jerry decay edison happy striker sbb xzi birdring lip diem fleta ksp linkzr nenne profit

solar bison
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True, he’s really good when he is feeling it, but he also has more than his fair share of off days

weak bolt
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Logix is one of the better all around hitscans. You know he'll play Widow/Ashe/Mcree/Tracer all to a high level. Some of those others can't play all 4

next mesa
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profit can hitscan now too

silk frost
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Fits, Ans, BQB, Decay, Happy, Striker, Xzi, Birdring, Lip, Diem, Fleta

next mesa
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there's rarely a situation where you need to swap all 4

silk frost
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then I'd put Logix

weak bolt
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He makes your roster cheaper by covering all 4 though

next mesa
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really

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yeah that's true

solar bison
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True

next mesa
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like he's a good player

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but I dont htink he's championship winning caliber

hot heart
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He's cheap and He's good

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Thats about it

weak bolt
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He's deserving of a mid tier team at least. Perhaps with a semi decent team he may get more chance to prove himself

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But he's been kinda fucked in OWL by S2 Mayhem, and then S3 Defiant

solar bison
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Yeah

next mesa
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you'd put heesu above him?

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iM ean below*

solar bison
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No

next mesa
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I mean*

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really

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I would

solar bison
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Heesu is more flexible

weak bolt
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Across those 4 I'd say Logix is better, but Heesu has Sombra in his pocket too

solar bison
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With a top level sombra

next mesa
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we dont know whats going on in scrims

solar bison
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It makes it worth

next mesa
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but heesu widow might be better than carpe's now

hot heart
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Didn't heesu genuinely have a really good sombra during the tail end of playoffs?

solar bison
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Yes

next mesa
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also you would put carpe below logix?

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like

hot heart
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I mean widow

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Not sombra

solar bison
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Heesu looked great at the end of the year

next mesa
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I know he hasn't won anything

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@hot heart yeah his widow was pretty good

solar bison
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Logix hasn’t either

hot heart
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I think carpe is better

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No question

next mesa
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I just think carpe is better, LOL

solar bison
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Carpe>logix

weak bolt
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I think Carpe gets favoured by a good team

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Think of the space difference Carpe gets to work with vs Logix

hot heart
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If logix was on philly he would do much better

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But tbh

next mesa
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that doesn't change the fact that carpe is carpe though

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not to mention your flexibility factor

hot heart
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He wouldnt be as good as carpe

solar bison
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If most low level players were on philly, they’d do better

next mesa
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he can play widow ashe tracer cree

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all at a super high level as well

hot heart
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Not by a longshot

weak bolt
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I reckon you could hot swap the 2 without a huge difference honestly. Carpe hasn't had great performances for a long time considering the caliber of his team

plush grail
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most flexible player is ameng ofcourse

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he can play ball

next mesa
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nah

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carpe was at least really good in the regular season

weak bolt
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Farming easy teams as Philly did all season 😄

next mesa
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yeah

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toronto is so easy

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logix pops off less than shockwave

weak bolt
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On Mcree, Logix/Carpe right next to each other in dmg per 10, Logix a little behind on elims which you'd expect from a worse team

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On Widow, Logix a little behind on both, but he's above Edison, KSP, Decay and Happy for Elims per 10

tidal ridge
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who is adam?

next mesa
#

who

raw ermine
#

australian off tank

#

just won contenders AUS

tidal ridge
#

he just on valiant now

next mesa
#

stats on widow really dont tell much

#

u just

#

cant convince me that decay and happy are worse than logix

#

ok wait

#

but Ans is a pretty good widow I would say

weak bolt
#

yeah but baring in mind the team diffs

tidal ridge
#

i think ans is the best widow in the league

weak bolt
#

Defiant were awful

#

Philly were pretty dominant, you'd expect Carpe to farm stats

next mesa
#

but you would also expect them to like

#

end fights quickly

#

big roll

#

i dont know

weak bolt
#

Logix has always just seemed to lack confidence. Put him on a good team and give him some time to shine, I think he could do very well

next mesa
#

yes I hope he does good this year

#

with a new head coach

#

prove me wrong bb 😩

tidal ridge
#

who is ansoonjae

next mesa
#

i dont know

raw ermine
#

ms from em

weak bolt
#

EM have to be the team with the most OWL players in history now

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

taken over runaway for that title

weak bolt
#

14 at a quick count, I think Runaway are close

raw ermine
#

uh

#

runaway has

#

the famous 8 to titans

next mesa
#

mag

#

flow3r at one point

#

heesu

raw ermine
#

gangnamjin, yaki, mag, schwi, heesu, leejae

next mesa
#

yaki

#

schwi at one point

#

QoQ

raw ermine
#

does flow3r count?

next mesa
#

wait no

raw ermine
#

nah

weak bolt
#

Hmm runaway at 19

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

I counted that

next mesa
#

Flow3r does count?

#

I mean

#

he kinda played some games

raw ermine
#

we're talking about those who were trained by runaway

weak bolt
#

A lot of them were flops, but they count I guess

next mesa
#

oh yeah Coma

raw ermine
#

coma was a while ago

#

and not direct

weak bolt
#

Flow3r, Schwi, Coma, Kalios etc.

raw ermine
#

if we count ALL players who were on runaway and an OWL team at one point

#

thats 20

#

cause they have revenge and woohyal on them rn

#

but thats dumb

#

so only those who were trained

#

would be

#

19

weak bolt
#

I think Envy is at 19 too

raw ermine
#

oh

#

I was thinking the player envy

#

yeah I count 19 for envyus

plush light
#

Who the hell is Adam the offtank

tropic herald
#

He’s pretty good

#

Up and coming talent for sure

#

Right down Packing10s wheelhouse

weak bolt
#

LAV's scouting is pretty crazy honestly. They seem to find players out of nowhere that nobody else looked at

tropic herald
next mesa
#

its confirmed

#

lets fuckin go baby

plush grail
#

Fuck it

#

Seominsoo

raw ermine
#

waiting with HZS page open

#

Plot twist: they sign bumper

hot heart
#

I wanna go to sleep but i also wanna see the seominsoo signing

edgy tinsel
raw ermine
#

lmao

tropic herald
#

I’m gonna guess

#

11:15pm ish

#

EST

#

That’s when all other Spark tweets have been

raw ermine
#

yeah

next mesa
#

that's in like 6 houts go to sleep bro

tawdry hamlet
#

It's 5pm for empathy

next mesa
#

i was talking to

#

@hot heart

plush light
next mesa
#

bruh

#

alright I dont know much about this adam guy but he looks pretty good ZaryaLUL

raw ermine
#

might as well stay up for the meme

balmy wolf
#

Adam was off tank for team usa 2016

#

Was in Apex, grinded contenders for super long

#

Finally made it

raw ermine
#

??

#

he is from Australia

tropic herald
#

Two diferent Adams

raw ermine
#

The American Adam was a main support

#

From xl2 academy

#

He works for the nysl now

silk frost
#

bro Adam was main support for US in 2017

#

and it was a different ana

#

player not ana

next mesa
#

there was like 2 different adams right

#

and none of them is that adam

raw ermine
#

theirs 3

#

US adam, AU adam, and Korean adam

#

this is AU adam

balmy wolf
#

AU adam is probs one of the best players in AUS contenders

#

and best OT in AUS contenders

#

What are there so many Adams

#

We need another XQC in owl

#

Korean XQC, aus XQC, American XQC

raw ermine
#

couple of beast's as well

#

american, argentina, and korea

next mesa
#

apparently michelle going to toronto?

raw ermine
#

says whom?

ornate rose
#

When does the 2021 owl season start?

raw ermine
#

not sure

next mesa
#

says the cow thread about ansoonjae signing

raw ermine
#

if Overwatch 2 isn't in it

#

feb

next mesa
#

speculation is april

#

not areliable source at all

#

but

raw ermine
#

april is if ow2 is in it

next mesa
#

michelle is 👌

#

actually i dont even know how good his sig is

#

because marve1 always plays sig

raw ermine
#

toronto is getting weird

#

its like

#

"lets get the most random team we can get"

#

next

#

were gonna get flow3r

#

or something dumb like that

balmy wolf
#

wdym

#

both of the last signings were good signings

raw ermine
#

not bad

#

but weird

balmy wolf
#

theres are top kr contenders players

#

aztac especially

raw ermine
#

combining them with 2 meh western players?

#

maybe KDG has a master plan

balmy wolf
#

who said they were gonna be starting

raw ermine
#

true

#

yo whats your favourite contenders team?

balmy wolf
#

hmmm

#

EM

#

their hackfist comp was really amazing

raw ermine
#

wrong answer

#

your favourite team is...

#

Odyssey

balmy wolf
#

the trials team?

raw ermine
#

Odyssey is a Overwatch team competing in Overwatch Contenders.

#

-liquipedia, 2020-11-19

balmy wolf
#

ahh

next mesa
#

odyssey dude

#

so everyone fucking dies except 1 person

#

🗿

slow kraken
#

OCE best contenders

balmy wolf
#

i dont pay attention to NA contenders

#

all i know is that EU players wrecked on high ping there

#

gonna be interesting if any of the philly players go to toronto

raw ermine
#

i don't see who

#

did heesu get re-signed?

balmy wolf
#

no he didnt

#

eqo did however

#

sado got released i believe

#

may be wrong on sado

next mesa
#

yes sado is gone

#

mano is in

#

fury is out

#

poko re signed

raw ermine
#

did this allude to adam?

#

or am I missing something

next mesa
#

i dont fuckin know

raw ermine
#

ALERT
T-1 HOUR TIL SMS SIGNING (APPROXIMATELY)

next mesa
#

yessir

balmy wolf
#

is that what the tweet is referencing?

raw ermine
#

the packing tweet?

balmy wolf
#

nvm

#

i think that photo is the Alcatraz prison

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

prison...

#

is he signing dreamkapzer and mouffin?

balmy wolf
#

its probs a player from contenders

#

whos been stuck in contenders for a long time

raw ermine
#

true

#

hmm

#

kaiser?

next mesa
#

he's like

#

fuckin 25 boomer

balmy wolf
#

kaiser? dudes just a rein one trick whos been benched for a while now

#

by yakpung btw

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

but thats who first comes to mind

balmy wolf
#

well the prison is in NA so take that as you will

raw ermine
#

jimmy confirmed

#

noice

next mesa
#

a chinese hitscan, and it's not diya

#

hunters on some fucking crack

noble nexus
#

chengdu are doing things

raw ermine
#

I guess its chinese annoucement hour

noble nexus
#

I guess so

#

now SMS just needs to be announced

next mesa
#

where the FUCK

#

IS DIYA

#

👏 👏

#

I DO NOT WANT TO SEE MY MAN'S RETIRE

cinder ridge
#

when does ow league start back up

next mesa
#

WE DONT KNOW

#

OMG

#

WADANPFOSENF

cinder ridge
#

lol I just got back into the game

#

does surefour still play

noble nexus
#

he retired recently

cinder ridge
#

fuck

#

he was my king

#

him and carpe

noble nexus
#

might keep playing eventually tho

#

not entirely sure

raw ermine
#

he is on hiatus

#

for this season

#

might return

#

might not

silk frost
#

Kaneki is lowkey nasty as fuck

#

good pickup

#

only thing keeping CeVG from being a laughing stock most of the time

raw ermine
#

CEVG was weird. They signed 7 people to the team, and disbanded 4 days later

balmy wolf
#

JIMMY IS SIGNED

#

LETS GO JIMMYYYYYYY

next mesa
#

okay yeah but where is diya

balmy wolf
#

Diya, more like feeda

trail perch
#

Oh god

#

insulting Diya might trigger levy

#

Into a defense mode

#

Just like when I compare Jehong to Crimzo

tropic herald
#

Keneki Jimmy

#

Kinda potent dps line

next mesa
#

zbf shut up crimzo simp

#

🗿

#

okay im a bit tired today wont get into it

#

goodnight

worn falcon
#

Who are those people for Chengdu

#

Contendies china?

noble nexus
#

yep

#

CVG players

rare magnet
#

ok i did not see this coming

raw ermine
#

nearly 10 min til sms

rare magnet
gilded dagger
#

OMG THIS IS POG

#

MY FAV PLAYER

#

POGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

meager dawn
#

Seominsoo account definitely hyped now lmao

gilded dagger
#

YEYYYEEYYEYYEEYYSYSSSSSS

raw ermine
#

0 minutes

gilded dagger
#

YAAAAAAA BOIIIIIII

raw ermine
#

ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

gilded dagger
#

LETS GOOOO

#

POG CHAMP

solar bison
#

Lets go

#

SMS back in the league

true hound
#

FUCK IT

#

SEOMINSOO

gilded dagger
#

I WAS ALL SLEEPY AND BORED I GO ON DISCORD AND THIS!!!!!????

solar bison
#

Spark looking stacked

gilded dagger
#

YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSS

#

SEOMINSOO ARCHITECT OR GODSB THINK ABOUT THAT

noble nexus
#

I went to make food and came back to SMS being on the spark

#

what the fuck

solar bison
#

Dont forget shy

formal crystal
#

fuck it

#

good pickup

gilded dagger
#

architect seominsoo or godsb lige bernar idk and another support

rare magnet
noble nexus
#

the spark are looking fucking insane

solar bison
#

Guxue, Takoyaki, LiGe, BERNARTank
GodsB, SMS, Architect, Shy Damage
iDK, ColdesT, M1ka, MCD Support

#

Stacked Spark

gilded dagger
#

LIGE GUXUE ARCHITECT SMS MCD AND IDK

#

HOLLLLLLYYYY

noble nexus
#

they're going for the 6v6 internal scrims I see

solar bison
#

Yeah

#

Looks like it

gilded dagger
#

yup

solar bison
#

2 of each position

raw ermine
#

Wait di they have the half Chinese half Korean dynamic I predicted?

#

Close

noble nexus
#

I think so

solar bison
#

Close

#

5 chinese

noble nexus
#

fuck almost

raw ermine
#

Dps are 3 Korea 1 Chinese

gilded dagger
#

literally fuel spark and glads doing the opposite of eternal lmao

solar bison
#

Guxue, Lige, Shy, ColdesT, and M1ka are all chinese

raw ermine
#

I could see seominsoo shy being the dps line

solar bison
#

The rest are korean

#

Its a 7-5 balance

gilded dagger
#

full asian tho

#

true true

solar bison
#

Its the team with the most chinese other than Hunters

gilded dagger
#

wait is hangzou in china or korea im dumb

solar bison
#

China

gilded dagger
#

mmmm

#

makes sense

raw ermine
#

What would the main lineup before for hangzhou? Guxue lige arch shy idk mcd

solar bison
#

Its a tourist city in china

next mesa
#

FUCK IT

#

SEOMINSOO

raw ermine
#

Seominsoo

next mesa
#

LETS FUCKING GO DUUUDE

#

Didn't have lige before

solar bison
#

@next mesa one of your dreams have come true

next mesa
#

I'm just glad he's signed

formal crystal
#

Seoul is the only korean team I think

solar bison
#

Yeah

#

Only seoul

true hound
#

LETS FUCK(IT SEOMINSOO)ING GO DUDE

raw ermine
#

Somehow

#

They need a busan team

solar bison
#

Yeah

#

Busan is capital of Esports basically

next mesa
#

Seoul will always be an attractive free agency spot

#

Is it? Not seoul?

#

Idk

solar bison
#

True, koreans want to go home

#

I thought it was

next mesa
#

Well

solar bison
#

A lot of competitions are held in busan

next mesa
#

Korea is

#

I don't know it's either busan or seoul

solar bison
#

And lots of gamers hail from busan

next mesa
#

Lol

raw ermine
#

tbh what would sms play for

#

maybe heroes from OW2

#

but fr

#

reaper is something all the dps can play

#

arch plays doom, and doom isn't generally meta

solar bison
#

Zarya

raw ermine
#

zarya, maybe in a super zarya required meta

#

how often did that happen?

#

last year in that one ball zarya meta?

next mesa
#

Almost happened this playoffs

#

With decay

raw ermine
#

true

solar bison
#

He has a similar hero pool to architect

#

They can swap out and stuff

next mesa
#

Either way

#

It can't hurt to have 2 flexible players

#

With new heroes coming out

solar bison
#

Yeah, plus they are doing internal scrims, at least thats how it looks like

raw ermine
#

I think he'll be the ow 2 guy

solar bison
#

So they are probably gonna be on opposite squads

raw ermine
#

arch will practice current heroes

solar bison
#

Yeah, makes sense

#

SMS practicing the 6 new heros

next mesa
#

That's what I said erster will be doing on dragons

#

But people be like no

solar bison
#

Maybe fleta just flexes too hard

#

But yeah, erster probably would practice them

next mesa
#

I think he's still human ReaperShrug

solar bison
#

Fleta is just too good at the current heros

#

You can’t compete

trail perch
#

SMS

#

SMS

#

SM

#

SMS

#

SMS

#

SMS
S

#

MY KING IS HOMe

next mesa
#

You're gonna get muted

#

Lollll

solar bison
#

I still want fissure and jehong back in the league

next mesa
#

Yessir

solar bison
#

They got screwed over by the titans

next mesa
#

Tobi is just saving himself

solar bison
#

And need a redemption arc

next mesa
#

For jehongs return

#

So don't worry bro

#

Tobi for sure getting a spot

tropic herald
#

Notice

#

Real Seominsoo Twitter

#

minsoo5517 or whatever

next mesa
#

?

#

Oh yes ok

silk frost
#

SEOMINSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

Seominsoo update for the power rankings

digital cloud
#

you have vancouver over Outlaws?

silk frost
#

look at my name

digital cloud
#

you have Boston above Florida?

silk frost
#

idk what Mayhem are planning

#

they're fuckin gremlins, waiting as long as possilbe

#

I have to bump up Chengdu a bit tho

balmy wolf
#

sms picked up, nice

#

very nice

sullen berry
#

Bump up chengdu

silk frost
#

I did

#

I have them at 13th

sullen berry
#

You have no info to base spitfire valiant and NYXL apart from rumours

#

Which I don’t have any problems with

silk frost
#

we know what Spitfire are doing

sullen berry
#

Just find it interesting

silk frost
#

NYXL I have a bad feeling about, and Valiant I'm just basing it off their current roster

sullen berry
#

Kruise on Spitfire

silk frost
#

maybe

#

more likely Kellex

sullen berry
#

Wouldn’t discount it, but Kelley would come back for sure

#

*x

silk frost
#

yeah or Jofi

sullen berry
#

Will THEY sign KSaa would be hilariously plausible

#

Dude plays on EU ping for all his life

silk frost
#

I mean ksaa + molf1g is a mega stacked off tank position

sullen berry
#

And mof is all but confirmed at this rate

silk frost
#

yeah he's a freak

#

also based on the rumor of Bebe, Closer, and Ria going to Washington being 1/3rd confirmed, I really don't have faith in them anymore so I'm putting them 12th

sullen berry
#

So long as they aren’t stumbling further aback I’d probably place them above Atlanta

#

Still more questions over Sephy’s signings

silk frost
#

oh yeah for sure

balmy wolf
#

bebe is gonna be the weakest flex support in the top teams

#

closer im not sure

#

but dallas is dallas, so cant fault him on that

silk frost
#

if they sign Closer, he'll be the worst main support

#

imo

sullen berry
#

Closer will be a fresh start on an All KR roster

balmy wolf
#

no one was worst last year than ark

silk frost
#

Harryhook

sullen berry
#

He’ll perform better, how much I’m not sure

silk frost
#

he'll definitely be better

#

but compared to how good main support is getting

balmy wolf
#

well he actually has a lucio so thats nice

silk frost
#

fair

sullen berry
#

Actually I’d point out good main supports have an amazing balance between being the most clutch at healing and ability denial, on top of the occasional objective fragger

silk frost
#

yeah I agre

#

agree*'

#

I frequently say MS is the 2nd most impactful role

balmy wolf
#

ark had 1 top hero in owl and that was mercy

sullen berry
#

See: Kruise’s backcap on Paris Eternal vs Vancouver Titans

#

Or Slime’s insane wall riding to deny a mercy Rez

#

All the way from spawn

#

It’s not as hard to measure the value of a good lucio compared to say, Mei’s ice wall placement and its effectiveness

silk frost
#

yeah

#

Lucio is particularly a massively hard hero