IDDQD has 100% win rate, and 0 deaths. No other player can match that
#esports-discussion
weak bolt
trail perch
He is good lmao
hot heart
Im losing braincells
cedar oasis
Chipsa best dps in OWL history
sullen berry
@hidden vault this was originally a transfer to 2-way. They are now on their academy team full time
next mesa
crimzo in overwatch league is just bad
cyan parcel
you can say that gesture has a 100% accurecy as widow and it would be true
primal minnow
Theirs quite a lot of FS who are way better than fucking crimzo
weak bolt
Chipsa died, that makes him worse than IDDQD because Stats are all that matter
cyan parcel
lmao
trail perch
Chipsa is worse than IDDQD
next mesa
how do you even know
sullen berry
^
trail perch
Stream
sullen berry
I'm objectively speaking that iddqd played one maps, same with Chipsa
next mesa
nah
hot heart
It amazes me that this guy thinks crimzo is better than bdosin
cyan parcel
chipsa is the thiccest biggest bootyed and unluckyest players of all time
sullen berry
One fared better than the other
next mesa
for all we know chipsa was nice
next mesa
It amazes me that this guy thinks crimzo is better than bdosin
I know right how stupid can you be
sullen berry
The other is chipsa
cedar oasis
Lmao
cyan parcel
It amazes me that this guy thinks crimzo is better than bdosin
christ
trail perch
we'll
cyan parcel
what team is crimzo on
weak bolt
Crimzo going to carry Beast to a championship
cyan parcel
LOL
sullen berry
Hasn't he just confirmed he's on a team
next mesa
and it's gonna be hilarious
cedar oasis
Tbh any player could greatly improve from being mediocre look at sado
next mesa
wait really
hidden vault
<@242255693933969408> this was originally a transfer to 2-way. They are now on t...
I see so they were originally 2 way? still a demotion
cyan parcel
NUMBER 1 FLEX SUPPORT BTW
weak bolt
He'll probably scrape onto Toronto because he's Canadian and cheap
cyan parcel
HAHAHA
next mesa
oh yeah
not homeless
dude fr
or titans
and be shit tier again
farm stats on shit teams
cyan parcel
rip titans i used to love the shock titans games
sullen berry
Yeah not homeless look https://twitter.com/proxywolf/status/1327575947923492866?s=21
weak bolt
yeah one of those 2 teams will likely pick him up
next mesa
yeah
sullen berry
Wrong post oop
next mesa
it might even be a contenders though
oh wait
overwatch league
yeah so its those 2 teams for sure
there's much better talent in contenders
sullen berry
Twitter
cyan parcel
im gonna leave i fucking can't right now
cedar oasis
True
weak bolt
There is probably more chance of Lukemino from contenders being picked over Crimzo
sullen berry
Wdym
hot heart
im gonna leave i fucking can't right now
Lmao
sullen berry
All my homies love the titans
cedar oasis
So guys do you think anamo will find another team?
weak bolt
Honestly
sullen berry
im gonna leave i fucking can't right now
This was such a weak take on a good day's yarn
weak bolt
SBB, Pine, Jehong, Jjonak should go form a contenders team
sullen berry
I feel like Anamo would have been preferred over Mandu
weak bolt
Join EU contenders with a team of Koreans on 200 ping
sullen berry
Take the experienced main support over a new one
weak bolt
Win every tournament
sullen berry
He probably wasn't up for negotiation
weak bolt
It'd be funny though
sullen berry
Anamo boops were amazing during OWWC 2018
weak bolt
Miro for MT
next mesa
yeah bb
cedar oasis
No bumber
weak bolt
Miro, Jehong, SBB, Jjonak, Pine and Mek0. EU contenders
Heck they'd probably stand a good chance in Chinese contenders too
cedar oasis
That's like fighting someone with no arms or legs
next mesa
nah
they'd win korean contenders
easily
not even close
they'd 4-0 gauntlet
not even close
cedar oasis
They would probably beat Boston lmao
weak bolt
Dunno, I suspect they'd face proper competition in korean contenders
sullen berry
Pine to NYXL 2
next mesa
yeah fr
weak bolt
They could join EU, Chinese and OCE contenders all at once
Just win everything for the cash
cedar oasis
Are you allowed to enter multiple at once?
vagrant jacinth
Bernar and sanguinar gone, sadge
sullen berry
Yeah, but why would you
weak bolt
I don't see why you wouldnt be lol. As long as your team qualifies and you turn up
vagrant jacinth
Yo erster to shd wtf
sullen berry
Yup
next mesa
they'd literally roll everyone in contenders tbh
vagrant jacinth
Don't think anyone would've seen that coming
sullen berry
Hawk: I want a good flex dps
Atlanta: we have a flex dps
Flex dps: ๐ฆ
cedar oasis
There are a few teams with trash coaches
sullen berry
Would you consider Brad/Sephy as one?
weak bolt
I still dunno how to feel with ATL. Coaching seemed a bit suss, but then I also think they may have had problems with players wanting start time causing lots of swapping
digital cloud
I assumed that was them just not having a good idea of who they wanted to play
sullen berry
Yeah I can't wrap my head around. Not the wrlorst coach but his leadership is either missing or leaves a LOT to be desired
How do you keep erster from playing and not acknowledge his disappearance
weak bolt
Sephy has always been heavily rated by ex-players
cedar oasis
Which teams did he coach
sullen berry
Whereas hastr0 can even if it was to delay the inevitable Decay lost interest in carrying for the fuel
weak bolt
Selfless was one of his main teams
sullen berry
And that selfless team was a legendary story
cloud latch
what about atl tank line
weak bolt
Dafran, Emongg, Sinatraa, Carpe have all said Brad was a good coach
digital cloud
no real consensus on that
Plat Chat thinks the tankline sucks
some people here think they might have been ok but bad coaching
cedar oasis
Gator is barely average
digital cloud
others also think they are bad
vagrant jacinth
Does erster bring anything not covered by lip and fleta?
cloud latch
oh stitch is gone
weak bolt
Gator/Hawk were overhyped from NA contenders
sullen berry
Dafran was streaming earlier today, had a nice look back at some of his early season success with Sinatraa as a dps duo
weak bolt
Stitch to nyxl would be a decent signing honestly
Bring some experience, you know what you're getting and has high potential
cedar oasis
Nyxl will probably sign some more contenders players
sullen berry
Does erster bring anything not covered by lip and fleta?
Well you could legitimately put him on off tank and just puts up healthy competition on the starting roster
weak bolt
I think they'll get mostly contenders, but it'd make sense to bring in some experience too
hot heart
Wtf did justice just do
cedar oasis
That's what yakpung is for
hot heart
I really dont understand this
weak bolt
Maybe Stitch wanted more cash, and Jerry was cheap
weak bolt
Yeah but if you had a bunch of contenders players + Yakpung, Ivy, Stitch and Jjonak, you'd be in a good place I think
NYXL dont have a good history of introducing upcoming talent to OWL
cedar oasis
Nyxl coaches this year were kinda trash
cedar oasis
If nyxl need a hit scan there is always big boss pine
weak bolt
Pine is totally unproven now, Stitch would be a far safer bet
next mesa
cedar oasis
When pine was playing he was top 3
sullen berry
Time to run it back
weak bolt
Yes but that was S1 OWL
sullen berry
Gotta play it safe somewhere, NYXL
weak bolt
Back then Muma was a great tank and Jjonak was #1 FS
cedar oasis
Yea
Shake of some rust and he is fine
Most teams should take a chance with pine because If he is still really good then you have a top 3 hitscan
And you gain alot of fans
weak bolt
Pine playing in S4 like he did in S1 would be a hard feed
edgy tinsel
rip nyxl
weak bolt
Those kind of random flanks dont work any more
cedar oasis
Pine still plays overwatch on his stream
next mesa
nah it totally would he's pine
edgy tinsel
When pine was playing he was top 3
No he wasn't top 3
cedar oasis
He doesnt feed
weak bolt
Ranked is not OWL
cedar oasis
He was
raw ermine
rip stitch
hot heart
Aim is one of those things that just doesnt go away with practice
edgy tinsel
No, he wasn't, he made flashy plays, but he was average
raw ermine
popped off
edgy tinsel
stats dont lie
cedar oasis
Dont start with stats again
hot heart
His level of thinking probably dropped off a bit after not playing in OWL for a bit
But that could be fixed
edgy tinsel
stats literally prove it
Pine had the most deaths of any widow in s1
weak bolt
He'd need heavily coaching and to probably adapt his whole playstyle
digital cloud
pine was overhyped. no way he is comparable to ans or decay anyway
hot heart
People dont talk about his mccree much
hot heart
pine was overhyped. no way he is comparable to ans or decay anyway
Yeah he isnt
digital cloud
the level of skill has increased massively
edgy tinsel
People dont talk about his mccree much
Yea, but cree wasn't good much in s1
next mesa
had*
hot heart
Nah
hot heart
Even then
next mesa
but hten like
next mesa
we'll have to see
edgy tinsel
Hot take: Stage 1 S1 Birdring was better than pine
edgy tinsel
hot
weak bolt
In all likelihood I dont see him being signed by a team. If he's good enough we will see
edgy tinsel
pine was flashy, but besides those flashy plays he was average
cedar oasis
Pines peak is unstoppable
edgy tinsel
No its not lmaoo
weak bolt
People remember flashy plays from Pine and forget the rest
edgy tinsel
Decay peak, Ans peak, Lip peak all higher than pine
cedar oasis
I said peak
edgy tinsel
People remember flashy plays from Pine and forget the rest
Yes because besides those he was quite literally an average hitscan
cedar oasis
We shall have to se
next mesa
"peak Jehong would destroy everyone"
no truer facts have ever been spoken 
weak bolt
Peaks dont mean a lot if you dont produce them consistently. And that was one of Pines biggest issues
edgy tinsel
Pine died way too much, if he played more passive he would've been a much better widow
nyxl was in alot of 5v6s due to that which led to their losses
weak bolt
Kinda funny really. NYXL get so much crap for being a passive team, but then Pine was hyper aggro
sullen berry
You could imagine the discomfort in the coach's eyes
sullen berry
He's a liability, but he keeps getting all these kills!
Hey remember when Houston outlaws was a top 4 threat?
NYXL played them like fools
weak bolt
Twitter
weak bolt
Do we reckon Jjonak gone, or just sad
digital cloud
Outlaws was never a top 4 threat
sullen berry
Nah too early to tell
cedar oasis
Jjonack gone
sullen berry
It's been almost an hour since the sbb post
hot heart
https://twitter.com/joey_gago/status/1329094855272894465?s=19 response to the tweet above
Idk why i found this particularly funny
weak bolt
I reckon they'd give Jjonak his own separate post and away from the rest
cedar oasis
They r gonna give him a statue
weak bolt
It'd be weird if they dropped all the rest and kept him honestly
hot heart
Weird
digital cloud
if you think about it, Nyxl is the biggest failure in all of OWL
hot heart
They are
cedar oasis
No
digital cloud
best team season 1, can't clutch it out
cedar oasis
They won stages 2 and 3
hot heart
But the grand finals
digital cloud
still pretty good season 2, but no real threat to the top 2
cedar oasis
Made it to semifinals stage 2
digital cloud
irrelevant season 3
sullen berry
For all the money they did make winking regular season, that's still worth recognizing
weak bolt
They're the team thats made the least improvement in 3 years of OWL imo. Considering their roster
hot heart
They never had a change to begin with @next mesa
next mesa
if anything the biggest failure was seoul s1
hot heart
Nyxl did
sullen berry
It's not according to esports awards standards
next mesa
@hot heart yeah and that's just called failing
hot heart
Ye
next mesa
tragic
cedar oasis
They would be the biggest failure if they were not consistent
sullen berry
But still making their revenue back faster at that point in time
next mesa
hot heart
NYXL and atlanta are the two teams when i think of failures
cedar oasis
Idk man Dallas s1
weak bolt
NYXL are the most disappointing, but I wouldnt say Failure
digital cloud
they had expectations, sure
digital cloud
but Nyxl had a chance at one point
sullen berry
Expectations surely weren't that high
weak bolt
They should have won more, but they haven't totally flopped
sullen berry
Seoul were a disappointment for 4 years in a row.. Waiting for how they disappoint in 2021
weak bolt
Dallas #1 Failures surely
next mesa
seoul did not really disappoint this season
can't really call a grand finals appearance disappointment
when they were so shit s1 and s2
cedar oasis
Boston
weak bolt
Seoul were disappointing in regular season, but salvaged it in GF
next mesa
yeah in playoffs
sullen berry
When the model doesn't fit, never pick up mineral again
He doesn't have the same endurance as other coaches
Nothing wrong with the coaching quality
next mesa
yes
sullen berry
There's been good things said, but what do you want out of a head coach?
weak bolt
I want my head coach to be from the Church of Crust
cedar oasis
I want a head coach to be crusty
hot heart
Crusty might just be the best coach in esports
next mesa
if it wasn't for owwc 2019 omegalul
hot heart
we dont talk about 2019 OWWC
weak bolt
Crusty always seems to have a very good support team around him too
hot heart
Yeah
next mesa
im surprised that
weak bolt
NineK, Harsha, Arachne, Junkbuck
digital cloud
and money is why they are good
next mesa
but they weren't comfortable running ball
which is what they scrimmed
they stayed with hog
didn't work
weak bolt
Crusty is good because he gets the support from Shock to have the team around him. That's a big factor
weak bolt
That's not solely down to Crusty though, that's also having a very good roster who can make sensible decisions themselves
cedar oasis
You have to listen to your coach dont you
weak bolt
Sure, but a good coach will also listen to their players and take input from them
cedar oasis
At some point I'm sure marve1 said I dont want to be an ot
weak bolt
Shock are a team, they aren't 6 individuals and a coach. It's always been that way for them
We must not forget, that Crusty listened to Super when he said he wanted to play Genji ๐
Wtf
cedar oasis
Oh
weak bolt
Dynasty stocks rising
tidal ridge
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHAT??
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
cedar oasis
Meko to justice
digital cloud
wait
tidal ridge
i was saying noo for stitch then it scrolled me down to thank you jjanu
digital cloud
is that real
weak bolt
Fury to Justice
weak bolt
Maybe he's getting bigger offers elsewhere
tidal ridge
ok washington is still going to be a bottom 15 team
next mesa
nah
raw ermine
rip
weak bolt
Maybe NYXL or Dynasty offered him bank
hot heart
?????
raw ermine
OT market is nuts tho
tidal ridge
decay is not going to be able to carry hard enough on 2 shit teams
cedar oasis
Meko or fury to Washington
next mesa
there are some decent ots on the market
weak bolt
If Justice sign Fury or Mek0 they'll be in a similar position overall
digital cloud
when is Houston gonna make announcements
tidal ridge
SADO, fury, and ivy all to toronto imo
cedar oasis
Wait
hot heart
And you're set
cedar oasis
Who is Washington's flex support?
weak bolt
At the moment? Aimgod
But seeing as Justice already dropped 2 players today, he may be next
cedar oasis
Who is washingtons flex dps?
next mesa
ttuba is okay
cedar oasis
Rascal to justice
next mesa
he peaked in genji meta
cedar oasis
Wait
next mesa
jehong and tobi to justice
next mesa
okay
cedar oasis
Jk
next mesa
cool
cedar oasis
Dont hurt me
next mesa
๐ ๐ซ
weak bolt
I always thought it;d be Slime to Justice, but all his ex-runaway friends are gone
tidal ridge
do u guys think pine will get signed
digital cloud
no
keen aurora
NOOOOOOOOOO NYXL WHYYYYYY
next mesa
they dont have a main support
digital cloud
not really
keen aurora
WHYYYYYY
worn falcon
inb4 NYXL goes to Wash
cedar oasis
They could get anamo
limber pine
NYXL saw what Paris was doing and said "man I don't want a team either"
weak bolt
I'd suspect Sanguinar to Justice rather than Anamo
keen aurora
rilly?
hot heart
Hmm
keen aurora
who saw erster going to shanghai
hot heart
SanGuiNar and who else on FS though
weak bolt
I could see them keeping Aimgod, he isn't awful
keen aurora
how come sbb barely used tracer
keen aurora
rip
next mesa
they won off season? okay let us see
weak bolt
I'd not put it past Mayhem to sign Roar or do something truly dumb
next mesa
inb4 they poach the whole shock roster
cedar oasis
Roar doesnt deserve to be in OWL
hot heart
Imagine if mayhem just pick up sado and Alarm or some shit
primal coyote
Didnt Alarm resign?
next mesa
alarm re-signed
primal coyote
^
cedar oasis
They trade alarm
primal coyote
Yeah
cedar oasis
Who will replace ivy
primal coyote
Rascal xD
keen aurora
sbb?
primal coyote
Rascal or Libero tho
weak bolt
cedar oasis
And coach him better
weak bolt
Outluls content creators could be such a meme
cedar oasis
Lmao
keen aurora
ikr
cedar oasis
Who would do that
cedar oasis
Its Houston though
digital cloud
but money
weak bolt
Houston have a lot of fans in fairness
digital cloud
yeah, we are a sorry bunch of losers
weak bolt
They tend to be slightly crazy loyal fans too
sullen berry
I read this and cannot for the life of me think Vibinwithviolet but on a thinner budget
silk frost
Holy shit NYXL died while I was asleep
weak bolt
Houston have actual money now, so it's probably worth more
and if they give you as much exposure as Mayhem give to Jay3/Samito it could be a big boost for people
sullen berry
Yeah I'm actually interested but the thought of tying my podcast down to any team that's not fuel, shock, reign or Charge seems highly unlikely
silk frost
I mean Houston is my favorite team some reason
hot heart
I mean Houston is my favorite team some reason
So what your saying is you're a masochist
sullen berry
You can't hate the chance to claim your content is OWL quality production
raw ermine
nyxl released another libero compilation
sullen berry
I'd do it to read the contractual obligations and refuse actually
tropic herald
sullen berry
Yeah I saw this
vagrant jacinth
I'm an nyxl hater but I'm gonna cry
sullen berry
Expect more purge
silk frost
So what your saying is you're a masochist
Yeah
weak bolt
Only purge nyxl can do now is to drop Jjonak lol
weak bolt
NYXL honestly could ahve a decent team next year
weak bolt
Yakpung, Jjanu, Stitch, Feath5rs, Ivy, Gwangboong + 2 others
hot heart
I'm an nyxl hater but I'm gonna cry
Man
vagrant jacinth
Oh fuck I didn't even see jjanu announcement lmao
weak bolt
If NYXL could get Jjanu and Stitch, wonder if they could persuade Slime
Feath5rs is a projectile dps from Talon esports
Gwangoong is hitscan, quite highly rated
silk frost
I think we need to stop thinking about slime as a candidate for top tier teams, he's only been good when playing with Bumper
When Crusty said titans players only play well with each other, those 2 were the big ones
hot heart
I still feel like slime could be good
weak bolt
As a MS I think he's decent enough on most rosters. Maybe not a Shock level team, but still mid-high
I expect him to join Houston in all honesty
silk frost
I think he deserves to grind in contenders
More time in OWL without his dad will ruin him I feel
weak bolt
He just needs to be on a team and starting
He must have had potential if Dynasty picked him up, but they just never really played him
silk frost
Wasnt he the 1st pickup after the explosion?
weak bolt
Think so
There isn't a huge amount of top quality MS players around, so he'll likely get a team
silk frost
Teams are gonna need to go part western for MS now
The Korean ones are underwhelming imo
Also yeah it took them 8 days to sign Slime, not really enough time to get real tryouts and see if hes a good fit and make sure both sides agree
cedar oasis
Do you guys think WHORU will be picked up for another team
solar bison
I dont think so
next mesa
whoru only plays well if he's paired up with his dad
cedar oasis
Who is his dad
next mesa
ryujehong obviously
solar bison
Aimgod and Jjanu should get signed
next mesa
haksal literally said like
whoru aint got shit on me but since his dad is supporting him I cant do shit ๐ฉ ๐ญ
cedar oasis
No
shy remnant
YES
cedar oasis
Nyxl going for a mid table team
vagrant jacinth
Aimgod gon
shy remnant
dont care
cedar oasis
Lmao nice name
next mesa
if everyone leaves
why would jjonak stay
dont get it
maybe no one else wants me pepelaugh
wants him*
shy remnant
jokes on you
cedar oasis
Jjonack is nyxl
shy remnant
i changed it
next mesa
jjonak more like jjonwack
cedar oasis
Any person can improve to be a top 5 at thier role
shy remnant
do you know who ur talking about?
stage 2 champion stage 3 champion mvp world cup champion
shy remnant
yes
shy remnant
yes
plush grail
next mesa
they could find a better fs than aimgod MAYBE
lime field
i wonder if jjonak is going to stay on nyxl or they drop him too for a complete wash
next mesa
jjonak more like aloneak
lime field
pain
worn falcon
Ria
raw ermine
must have pulled a xepher
worn falcon
raw ermine
lmao
next mesa
same as SBB
worn falcon
but wonder where you fit those 3
cloud latch
but they have danteh
next mesa
yeah
balmy wolf
Oh shit I forgot about the Westerner
next mesa
anyone that would sign sbb would want a tracer player
balmy wolf
SBB to Paris for the rebuild
viral hornet
ye prob Paris since no more soon
viral hornet
i mean paris gonna need a good captain and their turning into a Korean team
plus a tracer that can hold up
i mean thats a steal
next mesa
what makes you say they are turning into a korean team
viral hornet
they released almost all their eu players so im predicting some korean powerhouses to come in sbb being one
next mesa
lol
they released everyone
they released their best players, who were korean
what's this guy on
viral hornet
well thats what im predicting and from what i saw and stuff
limber pine
you may end up being right, but it's not because they released their EU players
Paris has no coaching staff either, so it's hard to determine any real direction from them
viral hornet
true i might have thought crudely on that part
earnest leaf
hot heart
Bumper to shock as a dps player
cobalt spoke
Wait
hot heart
Power move of the century
next mesa
that would just be unfair
cobalt spoke
Would ot even be a bad move if that actually happened now that I think of it?
hot heart
Huh?
next mesa
kekw
next mesa
ur late bitch dab
silk frost
oh god
hot heart
Pain
hot heart
If it is
silk frost
Closer is so BAD
hot heart
I cant see Washington in top 4 or maybe even 5
silk frost
If that happens, I can't see justice in top 10
raw ermine
closer needs a lotta coaching
silk frost
I think Hangzhou, Guangzhou, Dragons, and Boston will be above them
raw ermine
they signed an NA player over him, in a team with decay doha and gamsu
silk frost
well that's not fair
western players are ALWAYS better at main support
like the top players in every role are korean EXCEPT for main support
silk frost
Neptuno
cedar oasis
Mano
silk frost
BigGoose wasn't at his peak last year but still decent
next mesa
the best korean main support is probably tobi
silk frost
Like top main supports from Asia are probably LJG, Tobi, and I can't think of another
next mesa
oh shit
silk frost
SanGuiNar
silk frost
Masaa is great
not at his peak and I doubt he'll get back there, but nevertheless a strong player
if only Atlanta had a coaching staff
cloud latch
if only...
silk frost
can we agree that Atlanta has the worst coaching staff in OWL
cedar oasis
This season?
silk frost
2020
cedar oasis
Nyxl coaching was bad
cloud latch
boston???
silk frost
Boston actually
hot heart
See
silk frost
boston is #1 worst by a mile and a half
hot heart
Boston never had expectations
And never had good pieces in 2020
Except myungbong ofc
silk frost
ok I hard disagree with that
hot heart
Look
hot heart
If you're a team aiming to win OWL
next mesa
doubt
silk frost
I think Fusions is really underrated, he's got a good peak
cedar oasis
Jerry
silk frost
Punk can make some waves
next mesa
myunbong and jerry
silk frost
with a good coaching staff I think Fusions can yes
next mesa
nah
silk frost
I know it's a hot take but
next mesa
jerry is pretty good
silk frost
Jerry should be good next year
hot heart
On justice yeah
silk frost
I think every player in the 2021 boston will be good
silk frost
especially with a real coaching staff
hot heart
I think he's pretty good
silk frost
if he can be as good at his other heroes as he is at Genji then well
silk frost
I know but Ivy is a freak
silk frost
Ivy could be the #1 flex DPS
silk frost
yeah I agree with that
hot heart
Fleta tho
silk frost
EqO is a fragger, Ivy is a team player
pastel pawn
guys
next mesa
fleta and rascal doe
hot heart
Man
hot heart
Imagine birdring fleta and rascal on the same team
next mesa
my dream
silk frost
pastel pawn
I would love to see good players in wash just
next mesa
is jehong owl finals mvp
silk frost
this was a rumor but...
hot heart
what bout you ?
See Chengdu win 2021 OWL
silk frost
sorry dip
pastel pawn
Lol
raw ermine
they did the EQO thing again!
pastel pawn
@hot heart I hope so tho
pastel pawn
pls god
pastel pawn
make washington jutice the new run away
the new south korean 2017 team
I want to see them pop off ON NEPAL
I WANT TO SEE THAT RIGHT NOW
pastel pawn
nah because we sometimes have different points of view with the ranks
im 3.4 - 3.5 tho so
wheen I talk with a gold about owl its not the same lol
silk frost
nah I know what I'm talkin about don't worry
silk frost
plus Crusty is plat so don't worry
digital cloud
we don't have the perfect takes
raw ermine
lul XQC got banned from twitch
cloud latch
why
raw ermine
DMCA prolly
digital cloud
couldn't happen to a nicer guy
silk frost
why not both
digital cloud
wasn't he getting big too?
silk frost
idk
but if I remember right he was #1
btw are you guys watching contenders
double shield is being played by Ex Oblivione
and YaB
silk frost
orisa buff made her DPS ridiculous
I was getting around 11k damage per 10 in comp
plus her HP re-buff, pull power being brought back, and Brig getting her Hp buff
along with the fact that EVERY tank is terrible
digital cloud
they reverted back to 7 meters?
silk frost
5
digital cloud
ah
silk frost
but it was brought backa bit
digital cloud
you can literally walk away from that
digital cloud
dive is pretty good now
silk frost
not against double shield, sig gets so much HP from grasp, Orisa is unkillable, and Brig is strong again
digital cloud
they upped brig's healing?
silk frost
Rein, Zar, Hog, and D.va need buffs in order for double shield to be less prevolant
no brig's HP buff
they're on the patch that gave Brig 25 HP
digital cloud
that does not make her useful then
silk frost
it does to contenders
this makes sense tho
Brig only needs 25 more Hp to be good
and they gave her it
now she survives dives
next mesa
brig became much better
digital cloud
no, she needed to give armor and actually heal to be good. a little more survivability should not put her over zen or ana
silk frost
her heals are fine enough
and bash negates dives
plus packs are really good healing
digital cloud
I mean, aoe heals is still fine
digital cloud
but the packs not giving instahealth is pretty bad for her
rally is still strong, true
digital cloud
I am not contenders, obviously
but I don't see why shield would be used over dive
or winston zarya pseudo dive
silk frost
well double bubble is too slow and your backline is vulnerable
Orisa shreds people at ranges she never could before
her projectile speed increase also buffed her spread
the bullet spread is the same per unit of time but different per unit of distance
so the spread is a lot smaller
limber pine
keep poko and eqo get rid of fury and ivy
i mean it's not really true, but just a fun thought
silk frost
yeah I mean the double shield buffs were in full force
silk frost
Orisa is a DPS, Sigma is consistent as ever, the rest of the tanks besides winston are garbage
that sort of thing
can we please increase DM range
limber pine
we really need another viable offtank
silk frost
give Zarya 2 charges on projected
limber pine
no switching back and forth between Dva and sigma
digital cloud
just put dva boosters back to 3 sec cooldown
digital cloud
nerf sig damage a bit
limber pine
I just don't want the swinging back and forth between Dva and Sig in metas
do something to hog and zarya
digital cloud
and give zarya back her old beam size
silk frost
the hog pigpen change from 1-3-2
silk frost
give zarya 2 ally bubbles
silk frost
just make each bubble 150 HP
limber pine
i'd be find with a charge rebalance for more defensive capabilities
but zarya is so fickle
silk frost
I think we need that
raw ermine
give her a bubble pool
limber pine
she either completely busted or terrible
digital cloud
thing is, it changes so many thresholds
raw ermine
like tracer blinks
digital cloud
no
silk frost
Zarya abilities were fine for open lock
limber pine
give her a bubble pool
That'd be an interesting idea
limber pine
i think the pool means give her 2 charges but she can use them either as projected or personal
digital cloud
people already can't track her bubble usage
silk frost
I don't like that as much tbh
digital cloud
this would literally fuck the game
next mesa
actually having to choose projected and personal would be pretty cool
for low ranks if you think about it
silk frost
I think she'd need 3 bubbles for a bubble pool
next mesa
she would have an additional personal for herself
so she would rely less on teammates to give her charge
next mesa
that's a lot ๐ค
limber pine
you'd probably have to rework the charge it gives too
silk frost
probablY
limber pine
maybe a slightly higher base damage, but less max
digital cloud
well it would already be changed
silk frost
for 3 150 bubbles I'd say you give her 30 per bubble
maybe slightly reduce her max and increase her min slightly too
digital cloud
that would literally be what it would give
200 gives 40
150 would already give 30
silk frost
it'd be hard to bust all 3, so 90 max with 3 bubbles seems fair
like how hard is it already to fully bust 2 bubbles?
next mesa
but she's already getting stronger with 3 bubbles available
limber pine
maybe to have a cooldown between uses too
idk it's a lot of change, but an interesting one nonetheless
limber pine
lol
digital cloud
because the idea is bad
limber pine
eh
next mesa
idk too many bubbles in the game is also bad
limber pine
it's a fine idea i think. the details can be ironed out
cedar oasis
Guys blizzard is a small inde game company they cant do all of this
digital cloud
tracer has a similar mechanic, and is one of the higher skilled dps
give it to an offtank, and suddenly low level offtank players become more trash
silk frost
exactly
harder skill floor, higher skill ceiling
good zaryas would be great, bad zaryas would be... well...
silk frost
that's a good roster
edgy tinsel
lost in round 2 of gaunlet qualifiers
silk frost
what team was that
silk frost
probably because Ado
next mesa
how did they go to play contenders like right away
silk frost
Ado is the only flex DPS
edgy tinsel
although is a flex dps
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silk frost
I guess