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raw ermine
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diya as well

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and dding

storm citrus
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i loved fearless

raw ermine
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all gone

storm citrus
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oh dam

raw ermine
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lets see

storm citrus
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so this is pretty big then

raw ermine
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the chinese teams are signing chinese players

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all seem pretty good

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london is gonna be without any players and coaches soon

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actually

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they have 2 coaches

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cuz they're gonna promote british hurricane

storm citrus
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i heard a team was getting the first female player idk if i got basically wooshed

raw ermine
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this offseason?

next mesa
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someone has to sign diem diya and jehong or else IM GONNA BE MAD 😠

storm citrus
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from what i know so far yes in the offseason

raw ermine
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geguri was the first female. She's gone

next mesa
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probably not

raw ermine
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no female has been signed yet

next mesa
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no female talent

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except maybe

raw ermine
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lets see what else happened

next mesa
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who was it again

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aspen?

raw ermine
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aspen?

next mesa
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in contenders

raw ermine
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lmao

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jinx

next mesa
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shut

raw ermine
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maybe

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idk

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get zholik first

storm citrus
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yea that's what i heard. "apparently" a team was looking aty picking up aspen

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probably false though idk

raw ermine
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houston dropped muma boink, prolly meko

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and re-signed danteh

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and are rumoured to sign happy and nero

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and piggy

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a korean off tank

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NYXL dropped mano

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and he went to philly

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which is why sado left

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libero is probably leaving

storm citrus
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i used to support shock back in season one because of sleepy but then he went to Washington so i started supporting shanghai

raw ermine
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lets see what else

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pelican got signed to atlanta, who dropped a boatload of players

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fdgod joined sfs

storm citrus
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i heard about that

raw ermine
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mandu and kariv joined guangzhou

storm citrus
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the shock one that is

raw ermine
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who dropped shu, who went to LAG

storm citrus
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i heard moth went to LAG

raw ermine
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ark retired

storm citrus
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ark retired?!

raw ermine
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yeah

storm citrus
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howcome

raw ermine
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gonna be a coach

storm citrus
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Ooo

raw ermine
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sfs dropped junkbuck who went to houston, and arachne who went to guangzhou

storm citrus
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is casores still a coach?

raw ermine
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assistant

next mesa
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ark might not be coach

raw ermine
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was an analyst b4

storm citrus
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ahhh

next mesa
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he said

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Maybe

raw ermine
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haksal retired

next mesa
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yeah holy shit that one breaks my heart the most

storm citrus
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noo

raw ermine
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can't believe we forgot

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yeah

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lets list the retired players from this season

storm citrus
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i remember when jake retired to be caster

raw ermine
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gamsu
Ark
Haksal
AKM
Unkoe

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theirs more

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chipsa's gone also

next mesa
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honestly most of them are kinda irrelevant

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carcar

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lol

storm citrus
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chispa was going to go anyway

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he's defiantly not coming back

raw ermine
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yeah

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haksal, ark, and gamsu are the saddest

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but akm and unkoe benchwarmed

storm citrus
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haksal the most

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thats a rip for my heart

raw ermine
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that's all the big changes

storm citrus
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man

raw ermine
storm citrus
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season 4 is going to interesting

raw ermine
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go to that twitter account to see leaks

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they are mostly accurate

next mesa
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haksal dude

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im just so sad

raw ermine
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this is Halo's nemesis

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it goes around saying the same tweet

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Any statements on the League or player movements are unconfirmed unless otherwise stated by official accounts.

storm citrus
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yea apparently super was teasing that he might be moving teams on his last stream

raw ermine
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nahhh

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super is staying

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2nd only to crusty in terms of priority

solar bison
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Supers value to the San Francisco shock is marketing

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The OWL farms him for content also

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There are at least 3 videos on the OWL YT channel with Super as the MC

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Plus he’s a top tier Rein and his Winston isnt bad also

next mesa
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and his ball

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and his orisa

next mesa
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whaaaaaat

raw ermine
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yeah

next mesa
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now, if shock signs libero honestly I would see them as championship favourites again

silk frost
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maybe

cobalt spoke
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They already are

next mesa
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not without so many stacked teams this year & losing rascal and moth I dont think yet 👀

cobalt spoke
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Dallas isnt going to be better than them if shanghai wasnt better than them

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Shock had a sidegrade on main support and no echo player (so far)

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The overall level of teams looks more equal but overall shock is still on top

true hound
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Seoul win this season

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100%

noble nexus
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maybe if they decide to get an OT

next mesa
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Get fury

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And it's all over baby

noble nexus
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yeah idk they got deadlifted by gesture and profit

next mesa
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Dallas might, tbh depends on meta

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Nah

noble nexus
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but they got deadlifted harder by hog meta

next mesa
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Fits was popping off

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Creative was good

earnest leaf
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the one issue with some of these teams is they won't have the built synergy shock does

next mesa
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Marve1 sig still a nut

noble nexus
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that's the only OT they can play

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l0l

next mesa
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80% of dallas came from em doe

earnest leaf
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so they might be able to contest shock at certain points individually but as a team that will be harder

next mesa
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Yeah and sig is meta like

noble nexus
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dallas will have synergy

next mesa
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80% of the time

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So it's fine teehee

noble nexus
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and they lose 20% of the time

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I just don't think they get as lucky as they did this season

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if they get an OT then yeah

true hound
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profit 1v6

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ez

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don’t they already have 2 OTs

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Toyou and marve1

noble nexus
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marve1 is a MT

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he just plays sig

true hound
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o

noble nexus
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he's really good on sig

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but that's the only OT they can play well

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tbf it's the best OT to play

formal crystal
next mesa
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What the fuck

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Okay

noble nexus
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they actually did

next mesa
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I did NOT see that coming

noble nexus
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I don't understand that

formal crystal
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me neither they have lip and fleta

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and they release diem but erster doesn't play hitscan

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so it's not a replacement

noble nexus
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uhhhh

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I don't see why they get erster

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god fuck this teasing

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spark got a new MT

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aren't they keeping guxue?

next mesa
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Feel like florida is on some mad drugs

noble nexus
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yeah but atleast they have a roster

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Paris have just dumped top tier players

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Chengdu also have new coaches

silk frost
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korean viewers gimme the rundown on takoyaki

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also erster dragons is... weird

noble nexus
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he seems to play winston ball a lot

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more ball than winston

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idk not heard of him

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could be a ball specialist and they keep guxue

silk frost
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seems fair

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Guxue is a passable ball but not that good

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he breaks the tradition of ball 1tricks in China

noble nexus
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guxue is a nutcase on monkey and his rein is pretty good

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spark are looking kinda clean rn

silk frost
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yeah they should be pretty good

solar bison
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Erster dragons?

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Maybe moon sees something?

noble nexus
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maybe

silk frost
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I mean I think he'll be a decent depth piece

noble nexus
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what does erster play that the dragons need?

solar bison
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They already have LIP and Fleta

silk frost
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they need a depth piece

solar bison
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But I guess maybe a 3 man rotation

silk frost
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Fleta can play everything, Lip is your hitscan and erster is your flex DPS

solar bison
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Makes sense

silk frost
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he'll be the worst player on the Dragons probably, but still solid

solar bison
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So LIP-Fleta, like regular, Fleta-Erster in like a genji tracer meta or something, and Erster-LIP in nothing, i guess

balmy wolf
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Erester is a much more aggressive player than fleta

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Got a good doom too

silk frost
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and that's the main hoel

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hole

balmy wolf
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Not sure bout his tracer tho

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Genjo and hanzo suits erester more i think

solar bison
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Fleta does tracer

balmy wolf
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Fleta struggled on hanzo in the playoffs

noble nexus
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genji will never be meta for more than 2 weeks before malding mercy mains take to the forums to get him nerfed again

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😔

solar bison
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Yeah

silk frost
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Erster is a good genji, hanzo, mei, and doom

next mesa
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Fleta got a pretty good doom

balmy wolf
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And more depth when ow2 comes out

next mesa
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Also good mei

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Yeah idk about his genji tho

silk frost
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I've never seen Fleta's doom, but yes his Mei is very good

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his genji isn't good enough though

solar bison
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Aztac seems like a good player on the Defiant

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But they resigned beast

silk frost
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probably an even player with kariv

noble nexus
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I want to believe in the defiant

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but why beast

silk frost
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I don't

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#20 defiant BAYBEEEEEEE

balmy wolf
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Aztec is the one the best flex supports coming out of t2

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I forgot who the other one is

solar bison
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Mcd

silk frost
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yeah but I'm not sure how good those best flex supports in t2 are right now compared to last year's

balmy wolf
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Not mcd

silk frost
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if GNJ is a solid mid-high tier, how good can these other ones be who WERE 18 last year?

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Are you thinking of Revenge?

balmy wolf
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No

silk frost
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Unique?

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forgot unique is MS

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1987?

balmy wolf
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Someone on WGS phoneix

silk frost
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oh you mean Aztac

balmy wolf
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Darn

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I forgot the rest

silk frost
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1987 is probably the 2nd best tbh

balmy wolf
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All of them are good

silk frost
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another pog chinese FS

balmy wolf
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Flex support rarely sucks in talent

silk frost
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yeah it's the most stacked role

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except maybe hitscan

solar bison
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Flex support is always producing too tier talent

noble nexus
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FS and HS are two of the standout roles that usually always have talent

solar bison
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Yeah

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Though there are standouts in the tank roles and main support

silk frost
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1987 can go to most teams willing to have a chinese player

next mesa
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Nobody wants a chinese player tho

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I call racism guys

solar bison
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Hangzhou

silk frost
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Guangzhou, Hangzhou, Chengdu, and maybe even Boston

solar bison
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Guangzhou

noble nexus
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spark got mcd

solar bison
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Chinese talent isnt bad

noble nexus
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isn't he an FS?

silk frost
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yeah

solar bison
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Koreans are just even better

next mesa
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Diya

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Nobody wants to sign diya

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And it just makes no sense

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To me

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Diya is the best hitscan in contenders

silk frost
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Diya, Lige, and 1987 are the best chinese players available this off season and 33% of them have been signed

solar bison
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I see what you mean

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Well, there are only 3

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So 33% isnt as high as it seems

silk frost
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I'm aware

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I just like making it seem bigger

solar bison
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And I guess there are very few chinese in the league

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Guxue, Eileen, Lige recently signed

silk frost
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Superich, Pineapple, and 800 are great as well

solar bison
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And i suppose 100% of them are mid-top tier

silk frost
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absolutely

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particularly Lige

solar bison
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Eileen was an MVP candidate

silk frost
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he and Guxue have potential to be the #1 tankline

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now it's not a HIGH potential

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but it is possible

solar bison
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And Guxue is top 3 MT in S2 and Top 10 S3

noble nexus
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yeah

silk frost
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he was still really good in season 3, just the rest of the team wasn't as good

solar bison
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Yeah

noble nexus
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spark got another MT too

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they got their ball specialist

solar bison
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They did, yeah

noble nexus
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so spark are looking insane rn

silk frost
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Godsb is numerically good but bad in play, bad flex DPS all year (until architect), the support line was all kinds of wack

solar bison
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Yeah

silk frost
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average support line in APAC isn't gonna get you far

solar bison
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Ameng is yottachad

noble nexus
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mcd looks pretty good from what I've seen

silk frost
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OH AND MMONK IS FUCKING NASTY

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he was 1v1ing DIYA in the finals AND WINNING

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AS ZEN

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AGAINST TRACER

solar bison
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Lol

silk frost
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DIYA'S TRACER

solar bison
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Zen>tracer confirmed

silk frost
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Mmonk is probably the best flex support available

solar bison
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He is over 18 right?

silk frost
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19

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to my knowledge he's a zen specialist but holy hera is he a good zen specialist

sullen berry
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one more shot, numlocked

silk frost
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yeah I saw that, poggers

solar bison
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What team was numlocked on, I dont remember

silk frost
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TNO

noble nexus
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toronto

solar bison
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Oh, right

sullen berry
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TNO lol

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TOR / Defiant

silk frost
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nah

noble nexus
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McGravy is on a contendies team now too

silk frost
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tno because I say "no" if people ask me how good they are

noble nexus
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😔

silk frost
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Gig and McGravy are together on Revival yeah?

noble nexus
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I know McGravy is

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idk if Gig is

sullen berry
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rolling in the ramen

solar bison
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McGravy is decent

silk frost
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gig is

noble nexus
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yeah they both are

silk frost
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I think McGravy is above average

noble nexus
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yeah I wish he was still in owl

solar bison
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Yeah, he is above average, not Space level yet though

noble nexus
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he'll get his place back

solar bison
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He’s also a good personality

noble nexus
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dude trying to keep up with roster updates on twitter is so fucking hard when most teams have Jeff pfps

solar bison
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Wasnt he a Dennis Hawelka winner?

noble nexus
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yeah he won it this year

solar bison
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Yeah

noble nexus
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they're on two way contracts?

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I assume that's what this means

next mesa
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Yeah

silk frost
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yeah that's what it means

noble nexus
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mad

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their t2 team might be pretty good

sullen berry
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hard to say

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it won't be the same as, say, a NRG buff with rascal

silk frost
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should be serviceable

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more chinese contenders potency

hot heart
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WAIT SHANGHAI GOT ERSTER???

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Holy FUCK

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Erster Fleta dps line

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Why are shanghai allowed to have both of them

silk frost
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because erster overrated

hot heart
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I dont think he is

hidden vault
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why would fusions want poko back?

sullen berry
hidden vault
noble nexus
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Chengdu are just putting their players on their academy team lol

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they've put two players on 2 way contracts and put another 2 on full time contracts for their academy team

digital cloud
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I kind of think that is nice

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they aren't just ditching the bad ones

noble nexus
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yeah

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they could always bring them back up two if they improve

silk frost
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Isn't YXL a coach for them too

tawdry hamlet
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Yo who TF slacking on putting the announcements damn

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It's been like 2 hours

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But erster crabrave3 crabrave3 crabrave3

sullen berry
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well I'm not privvy to want to do twice the work uploading if you guys are faster on this server

tawdry hamlet
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Fair

sullen berry
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anyways for more big announcements, try DM modmail and ask for emp specifically

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he lowkey represents us esports folk in the moderator team

tawdry hamlet
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It's all good I was just poking fun tbh I usually look at the r/comp server since they post it like insanely fast and ping everyone

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Erster hypee

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But idk why they didn't get a hitscan

earnest leaf
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tbf empathy is the one who does it

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he might be asleep

tawdry hamlet
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Since fleta was mvp and lip is good on cree etc

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Erster just such a weird pick

worn falcon
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Also chinese changes

tawdry hamlet
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Does erster have any heroes shanghai was missing?

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I assume

noble nexus
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they can play tracer genji now ig

tawdry hamlet
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Ah yeah

noble nexus
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cuz fleta played both tracer and genji for them

tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
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genji probably won't be meta for a while in all honesty

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah

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Being a genji one trick is difficult in owl crome

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Agilities crome

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I hope someone like vancouver or london just swoop up some old vets like soon

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That'd be fun

earnest leaf
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xqc to vancouver

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with dafran

noble nexus
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soon is a great player I don't see why low tier teams would pass him up

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just depends if he's willing to do low contracts

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because he looked pretty good towards the end of the season

echo quest
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Akm and unkoe are rumoured to join Rogue’s val team

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I wonder if soon will join if he doesn’t get an OWL offer

karmic grotto
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Everybody gangsta until bumper comes back in the league

plush grail
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ameng > bumper

high basalt
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bumper > ameng

tough wharf
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bumper = bumper

weak bolt
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Erster to SHD and then Fleta to Shock. Give me that please

hot heart
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Fleta to shock would be insane

weak bolt
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It's not going to happen, but can dream lol

hot heart
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Fleta Ans Striker

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Best dps line in OWL i think

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If erster returns to his 2019 self

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Which i think he can

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Shanghai have an insane dps line

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Erster Fleta Lip

cedar oasis
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Takoyaki?

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What about guixe?

hidden vault
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guxue back up

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hmm creed did say he didn't like chengdu

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(the city)

plush light
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Easter and diem reunited

tribal sigil
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sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

next mesa
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Diem is gone wym

plush light
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O

hot heart
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What are shock planning

plush light
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Shock is planning to have crusty as head coach so they win.

tepid raft
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well rip spitfire roster

shy remnant
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omg

weak bolt
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Anamo gone

next mesa
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it's over

weak bolt
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and sbb

shy remnant
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oh god

weak bolt
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next mesa
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and libero

hot heart
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Man

weak bolt
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yeah Libero too, RIP NYXL

hot heart
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Welp

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Here we go

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Budget nyxl

next mesa
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it's over

hot heart
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God that just sounds cursed

weak bolt
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I dont think even budget

next mesa
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nyxl just lost

shy remnant
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jjonak as well?

next mesa
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like 80% of their fans

weak bolt
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Ivy probably wasnt cheap

hot heart
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Oh yeah

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Ivy

shy remnant
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what more

hot heart
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Forgot about that

weak bolt
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I think they're just scrapping the old core and starting fresh with a mid tier roster

hot heart
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Wait

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What if they sign the old core of fusion

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Idk if they would but maybe

weak bolt
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I think they'll pick up a few owl veterans and bunch of new contenders prospects

true hound
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what the fuck

hot heart
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I mean i expected them to drop everyone

true hound
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i just saw

weak bolt
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No post on Jjonak yet

true hound
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rip

hot heart
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But this genuinely a chapter closed on OWL history

true hound
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nyxl S1 never forget 🙏

weak bolt
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So either he gets a special one, or they're keeping him

hot heart
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The NYXL squad

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Man im just sad now

true hound
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literally the best team S1

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Rip

next mesa
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man

weak bolt
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The Fusion of Apac, always good but never the best 😄

next mesa
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this sucks

hot heart
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See

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If ivy comes true

next mesa
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nah they weren't the best this year, but s1 they were #1 and s2 they were #3

hot heart
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Im extremely interested in what NYXL are gonna do

next mesa
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regular season wise

hot heart
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And who they're gonna pick up

worn falcon
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CrabPls NYXL IS DEAD CrabPls

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No SBB No NYXL

cloud latch
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welp time to root for a new team now

hot heart
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Tbh

next mesa
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nyxl just lost their soul

hot heart
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None of these guys we'll find a team for some time

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Other than libero

weak bolt
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nyxl needed to change it up, that roster fell behind the skill level of OWL

hot heart
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Yeah

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They stagnated

weak bolt
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Libero was probably the only one somewhat keeping up

hot heart
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Him and mano i think

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Libero needs a solid structure

solar bison
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SBB and Libero have a chance to get picked up maybe

hot heart
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SBB is only really useful for his leadership

next mesa
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ima cry minsoo

weak bolt
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SBB's only chance is if a team is desperate for a korean 1 trick tracer

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Hi Dallas

next mesa
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SBB to dallas

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I believe

hot heart
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Libero can still compete

next mesa
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honestly dude

solar bison
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I was gonna say that lol

next mesa
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sbb's ashe isn't bad

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his ashe is better than nenne

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and we all know xzi can't play ashe

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👀

worn falcon
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SBB sombra

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But man

solar bison
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Hello dallas again

hot heart
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Doha

next mesa
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GO DALLAS

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ZenyattaCry PLEASE SBB

worn falcon
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I need another team

next mesa
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IM GONNA CRY

hot heart
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I think doha or sp9rk1e could learn tracer and be really good at it

weak bolt
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Dallas look like they've finalised their roster though. I'd not expect much unless 3 months down the line they suck in scrims on a certain meta

worn falcon
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I bought the first OWL skin thanks to SBB

hot heart
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Yeah

solar bison
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Xzi-Sp9rk1e-Doha-SBB

worn falcon
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:(

hot heart
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I expect dallas to make a last minute signing

next mesa
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SBB SBB :(((((( PLEASEE

hot heart
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Or mid season signing

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SBB to toronto

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And sign the core of fusion

solar bison
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Erster got a chance, give one to libero or sbb

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Or both

hot heart
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Libero deserves one

weak bolt
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SBB probably becomes a streamer or something

solar bison
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Sbb seems like a good streamer

hot heart
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Hmm

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Yeah

solar bison
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He has personality

weak bolt
#

Or gets hired for the Korean Broadcast team

next mesa
#

libero to shock is lowkey good

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he's kinda budget rascal

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and not much of a downgrade either

weak bolt
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Libero to shock would be good, but I'm still hoping they're pulling out the wallet and stealing Fleta

solar bison
#

No way

next mesa
#

nah

hot heart
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See

next mesa
#

dragons literally gonna put so much money on fleta

hot heart
#

Flex dps hasnt been as important as usual

next mesa
#

he can't even get on the plane

solar bison
#

Shanghai wont let that happen

hot heart
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Hitscan has dominated meta

next mesa
#

@hot heart might be in ow2

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like you never know

hot heart
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And they have ans and striker

weak bolt
#

3 weeks ago we'd have never said SHD would let Fearless go

hot heart
#

So why sign fleta

next mesa
#

fearless wanted to go

hot heart
weak bolt
#

and you think if Shock came calling, Fleta wouldnt want to go?

next mesa
#

no?

true hound
#

no

hot heart
#

I expect most new heroes in OW2 to be tanks or supports

solar bison
#

Depends

next mesa
#

why would he want to

true hound
#

hed probably stay tbh

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Shanghai is already super good

next mesa
#

he's not kevin durant

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bitch

true hound
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xd

next mesa
#

fleta is meta

solar bison
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Fleta has lots of connections within shanghai, and they did really good this season

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Plus, he dont know english

hot heart
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I mean

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If they threw the bag at him

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Maybe

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If not

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Probably not

solar bison
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Yeah, the bag is the way to go

hot heart
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Unless fleta is like fearless

solar bison
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Always

weak bolt
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I think low key nearly every OWL player would like the chance to join Shock and work under Crusty

hot heart
#

And wants to play with shock players and coaches

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Yeah

next mesa
#

Dragons are throwing the bag

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moon is like

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the closest thing to crusty though

true hound
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every OWL player wanna play with profit and decay cause they’ll carry ur ass

next mesa
#

should be good

hot heart
#

I still think erster should've gone to shock

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God

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That would've been insane

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Shock erster

weak bolt
#

I just dont get why SHD would sign Erster honestly

hot heart
#

Him under cursty would be incredible

cyan parcel
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they just lost rascal

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so why not

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crusty with erster would be insane

next mesa
#

a good replacement for rascal would be libero or ivy

true hound
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Kevster to shock probably woulda been the best

weak bolt
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Unless they have insider knowledge of OW2 bringing multiple projectiles

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@cyan parcel Erster signed to SHD last night

cyan parcel
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RELALY

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OMG
OMG

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YES

next mesa
#

yes

hot heart
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Man

true hound
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widepeeposad

weak bolt
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Thats the confusing bit, why would SHD need Erster when they have Fleta

next mesa
#

fuck me in the ass dude

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@weak bolt more heroes

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coming

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kinda exhausting for fleta to be able to play 15 heroes at the highest level

weak bolt
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If more heroes, you sign Rascal lol

next mesa
#

you can sign erster too?

worn falcon
#

That is a sadge image

next mesa
#

yes

hot heart
#

Rascal is the guy that would master the newer heroes first

rare magnet
hot heart
#

Like in all of the league

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It would be rascal

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Then fleta

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Rascal is just incredibly gifted at the game

weak bolt
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Rascal, Fleta, Danteh, Profit are probably the 4 you'd want for any new heroes

cyan parcel
#

yeah

next mesa
#

can erster not play new heroes

hot heart
#

He can

next mesa
#

he got some hitscan and projectile

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you dont have to sign a specific player

worn falcon
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They have 4 months to practice

weak bolt
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Can Erster play the current heroes is the more important question

next mesa
#

no fleta can @weak bolt

worn falcon
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Or burn out before OWL starts

hot heart
#

I believe in erster

next mesa
#

they dont need erster for the current heroes

#

they have fleta

hot heart
#

Yeah

weak bolt
#

I think Erster just rots on the bench at SHD

hot heart
#

If that happens

next mesa
#

but erster can play new heroes while fleta polishes up the rest

hot heart
#

His career is probably over

#

2 years of stagnation is too bad

weak bolt
#

You know if there are new heroes, and they are top heroes, Fleta is grinding them anyway. It's not like he's going to just let Erster take the spot

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So unless 2 new DPS heroes come out that are truly meta, and neither of them similar to hitscans, I think he rots on bench

hot heart
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What if moon just threw the bag at erster to give fleta a challenge

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Ersters only hero thats probably better than fletas is tracee

cyan parcel
#

i just think that rascal would be better then both

hot heart
#

*tracer

next mesa
#

it's like what rascal said

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it gets really stressful to master so many new heroes

worn falcon
#

Is rascal lft?

hot heart
#

OW2 is gonna he hell on earth for flex dps players

weak bolt
#

We dont even know how many new heroes are coming anyway do we? Last i saw was rumoured 3?

next mesa
#

6

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on launch

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rumor

worn falcon
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@weak bolt 5 at least

hot heart
#

Everyones just gonna scrabmle to learn all these new heroes and figure out which are really good

weak bolt
#

Ok so 6, but at least 4 of those are going to be tank and support

next mesa
#

most of them probably gonna be tank

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yeah so?

cyan parcel
#

i have been a shock fan seasons 1-3 but i think im gonna try rooting for dallas this year because shock has just been dominant

next mesa
#

might not even be meta

worn falcon
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Most of them gonna be dps

next mesa
#

nah no way

#

sojourn dps confirmed doe

worn falcon
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Ill laugh if that happens

cyan parcel
#

ITS GONNA BE SPREAD OUT

weak bolt
#

They aren't going to throw in lots new dps. The game needs more tanks and supports long term

next mesa
#

isn't there a talon tank

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confirmed

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starts with M

worn falcon
#

Mauga

#

Rumour

hot heart
#

Mauga

next mesa
#

yeah

hot heart
#

His kit became sigmas

cyan parcel
#

yeah

hot heart
#

They said it felt too weird for mauga to have that specific kit or something

weak bolt
#

I just think it'd be a totally Shock move to sign Fleta as a replacement to Rascal

hot heart
#

So they built a character around that kit

#

And instead of mauga we have sigma now

#

He might be a future hero though

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With a different kit

next mesa
#

just seems unreasonable

hot heart
#

If shock sign fleta

#

Literally the best dps line in OWL

cedar oasis
#

Libero with good coaching is gone be the best

next mesa
#

libero is one of the few with rascal flexibility

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and he's actually available, unlike fleta

hot heart
#

Only thing you're missing is a sombra player thats really incredible

weak bolt
#

Libero would be consistent, but perhaps not the highest potential

cedar oasis
#

He had bad coaching and was still top 5

#

Not bad

#

Average

hot heart
#

Libero with good coaching could be in that like Top A tier position

#

Or bottom S tier

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Like

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With crusty

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Maybe

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Anyone else that wouldn't be feasible

cyan parcel
#

hear me out fleta is dope and extreamly talented but I don't honestly think that he was mvp but i might just be a fucking idiot

hot heart
#

I think

#

Eh

cedar oasis
#

Nyxl coaches were like b tier

next mesa
#

Fleta absolutely deserved mvp

hot heart
#

There were alot of amazing mvp candidates

#

Any one of them could've gotten it

next mesa
#

nah like think about it

#

nah

hot heart
#

But like

next mesa
#

dragons have the best record in the league

weak bolt
#

Fleta was pretty much top mvp across the whole regular season

next mesa
#

and fleta stands out

#

in the dragons

hot heart
#

Fleta had the flexibility and pushed the dragons to win alot of games they probably couldn't

cyan parcel
#

viol2t

next mesa
#

while the other team

cyan parcel
#

but

next mesa
#

shock

#

has multiple

cyan parcel
#

im an idiot so just don't respect my opinion

hot heart
#

On shock viol2t and smurf come to mind

next mesa
#

viol2t smurf ans striker

#

yeah

weak bolt
#

Viol2t was good, but regular season they weren't as dominant as SHD

hot heart
#

Its called esports discussion

cyan parcel
#

tro

#

tru

hot heart
#

Everyone's opinions respected

cyan parcel
#

why is the esports page more like nice then the overwatch discussion page

#

wtf

next mesa
#

lol

#

no

hot heart
#

We're all degens

next mesa
#

I dont respect people who says crimzo is better than jehong

hot heart
#

Okay that take was just

#

We dont talk about it

next mesa
#

heh

raw ermine
#

Ah shit nyxl blowing things up

hot heart
#

Yep

cyan parcel
#

rip nyxl

hot heart
#

The rumoured signings atm are Ivy and Yakpung to NYXL

cedar oasis
#

I think anamo could get picked for a team

raw ermine
#

Yeah I saw those.when jj dropped?

next mesa
#

lmao imagine if jjonak stays

cedar oasis
#

Nyxl lost like 70 percent of thier fans

hot heart
#

Jjonak needs someone to slap sense into him

cyan parcel
#

i feel like jjonak hasn't risen up to meet the more new and better flex supports this past season

hot heart
#

He hasn't

#

He just stagnated

cyan parcel
#

yeah

#

like shu and izyaki where way better then him

hot heart
#

People like alarm viol2t and twighlight just outpaced him

cyan parcel
#

and i don't think he would have been even top 7 in na for flex supports

hot heart
#

And just like that

#

He wasnt the best FS anymore

weak bolt
#

We had the Jjonak discussion yesterday and we ranked him like #10 on FS lol

hot heart
#

Yeah

cyan parcel
#

lol

#

tru tho

hot heart
#

He isnt great

next mesa
#

honestly can we definitely say shu is better than jjonak

hot heart
#

But

next mesa
#

actually nah we can

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Shu has performed much better than him

weak bolt
#

Across all FS heroes yes

#

Directly on Zen or Ana, debatable

cyan parcel
#

jjonak is good when an entire team plays around him but if zen isn't meta his ana isn't that great

raw ermine
#

In other news

weak bolt
#

The Chengdu Chads

raw ermine
#

I thought they would be the Chengdu Chasers

cyan parcel
#

i love chengdu just because they are halarious to watch

raw ermine
#

not team chasers

hot heart
#

Yeah

weak bolt
#

Might just wnat to keep the name separate so they can drop it as an Academy team when needed lol

hot heart
#

The day that changes release ameng is the day the OWL dies

#

*Chengdu

next mesa
#

nah jjonak's ana is good but his moira and bap is just dreadful

cyan parcel
#

yeah jjonak is not flexable

hot heart
#

Yeah we dont talk about his moira and his bap

#

He just

#

ints

cyan parcel
#

hard feeds

hot heart
#

He takes bloodthirsty to another level

cedar oasis
#

He was the best in s1 then he was top 3 and now he is average

trail perch
#

Crimzo better than jehong on everything but ana

#

fight me

hot heart
#

???

#

Nah

#

Not again

next mesa
#

shut the fuck up crimzo simp

raw ermine
#

crazy how players change

hot heart
#

Levy

weak bolt
#

I think we've found Crimzo's discord smurf account

hot heart
#

Don't

cyan parcel
#

have you guys seen super comparing moth to leejagong

next mesa
#

okay

#

I'm gonna stay calm

hot heart
#

Yeah

next mesa
#

😌

hot heart
#

I saw supers vid

cyan parcel
#

halarious af

trail perch
#

Most season ljg was beter

raw ermine
hot heart
#

LJG Turbo fed

trail perch
#

not in gf thi

#

tho

weak bolt
#

LJG is just hyper aggressive, he just fed a bit too much in Finals

cyan parcel
#

CRIMZO IS NOT JHEONG LEVEL

#

DO NOT

#

START

hot heart
#

Oh god.

#

Not again.

trail perch
#

Jehong is washed on everything but ana

hot heart
#

Welp

#

Here we go

cyan parcel
#

I WILL BITE A SHIRT

hot heart
#

I-

next mesa
#

it's okay

cyan parcel
#

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

hot heart
#

Lmao

next mesa
#

we all know he's just a crimzo simp

trail perch
#

TRUE

#

I am

weak bolt
#

We dont even know how good Jehong is now honestly

next mesa
#

you literally said crimzo had a godlike season

trail perch
#

A true dallas fan from s3

weak bolt
#

He played like 2 games on Titans

hot heart
#

He's probably meh

next mesa
#

jehong can be 60 years old and he'll still be better than fucking crimzo

trail perch
#

and crimzo is at least good

next mesa
#

dumb bitch

hot heart
#

Yeah

trail perch
#

calm

#

urself

cyan parcel
#

jehong is not as good as he once was but he as not fallen to crimzo

hot heart
#

Okay

#

So

trail perch
#

WDYM FALLEN

hot heart
#

Lets agree to disagree

weak bolt
#

Crimzo's best trait is he's a western FS

cyan parcel
#

LOL

weak bolt
#

If Crimzo was Korean, he'd not be in OWL

trail perch
#

CRIMZO IS A ELITE WESTERN FS

#

THE BEST OF THEM

cyan parcel
#

NO HE ISN"T

trail perch
#

SHAZ SIT DOWN

hot heart
#

What other western FS is out there

cyan parcel
#

VIOL2T

cedar oasis
#

What is this

hot heart
#

Thas better

weak bolt
#

Crimzo probably is the best Western FS

trail perch
#

VIOL2t ISNT WESTERN

#

BITCH

next mesa
#

oh my god shut the fuck up

hot heart
next mesa
#

koreans are just better

raw ermine
#

lmaoooooo

next mesa
#

sorry

#

race supremacy

hot heart
#

So

cyan parcel
#

BUT VIOL2T PLAYS IN NA

trail perch
#

Crimzo>Bdosin

cedar oasis
#

?

raw ermine
#

nope

cedar oasis
#

What

cyan parcel
trail perch
#

Crimzo<Viol2t Twilight Alarm

raw ermine
#

this guy is here to tilt

hot heart
#

We've come to the conclusion that crimzo is apparently the God king of all FS in OW history and that he is unchallenged

cyan parcel
#

k

#

i agree

#

sure

raw ermine
#

list of better flex supports then crimzo

weak bolt
#

Crimzo is the best Western FS, that's not really up for dispute. But that doesn't mean he's actually any good in OWL terms

trail perch
#

He is tho

hot heart
#

No

trail perch
#

At least top 10

hot heart
#

He isnt

cyan parcel
#

koreans are just better

hot heart
#

?????

cyan parcel
#

ok

trail perch
#

The stats dont lie

hot heart
#

You know what

cedar oasis
#

What

hot heart
#

Fuck it

next mesa
#

this kid just said crimzo is better than bdosin

#

LOL

cyan parcel
#

koreans would take crimzo grab him by his head and just sit on his face

next mesa
#

BDOSIN IS CRUSTY CERTIFIED

cyan parcel
#

BDOSIN IS THICC

trail perch
#

Again, after s2 bdosin just wasnt good

hot heart
#

Zbf gimme a list of 5-10 FS in OWL

raw ermine
#

twlight
Viol2t
alarm
shu
izayaki
bdosin
fielder

cyan parcel
#

BOOM

hot heart
raw ermine
#

all better than crimzo

weak bolt
#

It's like saying Beast is a top MT, because he's probably the 2nd best NA MT

next mesa
#

creative above bdosin

raw ermine
#

that isn't ranked

cedar oasis
#

Did we talk about this yesterday

next mesa
#

@weak bolt i know right

raw ermine
#

its just a list better than bdosin

hot heart
next mesa
#

i'd t ake jjonak over fucking crimzo

hot heart
#

Like

cyan parcel
#

BDOSIN ISN'T INSANE BUT HE IS STILL PRETTY OK

trail perch
#

Everyone on that list is better than BDosin

hot heart
#

A week ago i think

#

Man

next mesa
#

@trail perch

#

no

trail perch
#

Crimzo is defiently pretty ok

cedar oasis
#

Wait

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Crimzo is okay

trail perch
#

And by that I mean hes great

hot heart
#

I agree with that

cedar oasis
#

You put bdosin over fielder?

trail perch
#

but not insane

hot heart
#

BRO

#

NAH

#

IM GONNA

cyan parcel
hot heart
#

Calm

cyan parcel
#

safe word

next mesa
#

crimzo is hot trash

cyan parcel
#

safe word

next mesa
#

Sorry buddy

cyan parcel
#

safe word

#

ok

weak bolt
#

It's a fun game actually. Pick a region, find a shit player who is still one of the top for that region and claim they're good

trail perch
next mesa
#

YOU'RE INCORRECT LMFAO

raw ermine
#

lets see

hot heart
cyan parcel
weak bolt
#

Kruise is a top MS because he's the best MS in the UK

cyan parcel
#

LOL

trail perch
#

lmao

cedar oasis
#

Lmao

next mesa
#

Q30: Most dangerous player on Seoul?
A30: Bdosin. Quick movements, high speed play were difficult to counter.

BDOSIN IS FUCKING CRUSTY CERTIFIED YOU DUMB BITCH

trail perch
#

Astro?

hot heart
weak bolt
#

I forgot Astro, damn

trail perch
#

Funny Astro??

cyan parcel
#

astro is sick

#

wait is fdgod na or eroupe

hot heart
#

Astro bows down to The almighty kruise you simpleton

trail perch
#

Europe

cyan parcel
#

k

weak bolt
#

AKM was a top genji because he was a top 2 Genji in France

next mesa
#

yeah totally man

trail perch
#

KRUISE IS A FEEDER

cedar oasis
#

Nooo

next mesa
#

AND CRIMZO IS DOGSHIT

trail perch
#

Lmao akm blade

hot heart
#

Akm was a freak beast

cyan parcel
#

RIP DOGMAN

hot heart
#

Best genji in OWL

cyan parcel
#

lol

hot heart
#

Actually

#

Best player in OWL

cyan parcel
#

the 3 minute zero kill blade

weak bolt
#

Name me 3 other French Genjis better than AKM

hot heart
#

Him along with boink and rawkus

next mesa
#

you shouldn't allow to talk

weak bolt
#

It automatically makes him top 3 because you can't

trail perch
#

You cant see someone at the top of every support stat chart, and say they are dogshit

cedar oasis
#

My brain hurts now

trail perch
#

Crimzo was top 7 on every off support

cyan parcel
hot heart
trail perch
#

Does it hurt to look at facts and say no

hot heart
primal minnow
#

He’s the best western FS, quite a lot of other FS’ are better than him.

weak bolt
#

Crimzo was so good the only way he gets a team is excepting minimum salary and because he speaks English

cyan parcel
#

yep

trail perch
#

Look at the stats

hot heart
#

Thw moira stats?

weak bolt
#

Stats mean fuck all without the context around them

trail perch
#

Zen, moira, ana, bap

cyan parcel
#

CRIMZO IS DOGSHIT BUT THERE ARE NO GOOD NA FS

weak bolt
#

If you do the most healing because your tanks are bad at blocking damage, that doesn't make you the better healer

primal minnow
#

He’s not dogshit, but he’s definitely not amazing.

trail perch
#

I cant talk with yall if ur going to just look at stats and say no

next mesa
#

@trail perch he's just bad

#

lol

hot heart
#

Okay

next mesa
#

That's like saying

hot heart
#

ChipSa has the best win percentage in OWL

sullen berry
weak bolt
#

Stats mean nothing without the context around them

hot heart
#

Best player in OWL

next mesa
#

damn jjonak is so fucking good because he's #1 in damage on zen

hot heart
#

Accept the fact

next mesa
#

like okay bro

trail perch
#

Im not saying hes insane

cyan parcel
#

crimzo is a decent player and he might be the best na flex support but he is not even 10th in the world

hidden vault
#

demotion lol

next mesa
#

you literally are

weak bolt
#

IDDQD has the best stats of all OWL players

trail perch
#

Just that he is good

hot heart
#

HE ISNR EVEN GOOD WHAT THW FUCK DO YOU MEAN

next mesa
#

every owl player is good

#

but IN OWL

#

HE'S JUST BAD