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cobalt spoke
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And that scares me

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Because that means they're dropping someone

tawdry hamlet
cobalt spoke
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So lets avoid that reality

tawdry hamlet
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They won't drop striker he's too good

cobalt spoke
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They wont drop any other players probably

tawdry hamlet
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So I feel ta1yo on the block maybe

cobalt spoke
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Nah

tawdry hamlet
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Unless he has a long contract

cobalt spoke
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He does

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And his option has already been taken

tawdry hamlet
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Let us finally see him play!

cobalt spoke
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He can still get traded

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But he would have to get traded along with his contract

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Which some teams might not like

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So most people whos options have been taken are safe

tawdry hamlet
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I wonder if Diya will be picked up

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I just want more roster moves deadass

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Halo hurry up pls

sullen berry
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wait a second

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you want more roster moves that are only speculation

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not... the teams?

cedar oasis
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I want a team of pine carpe decay ans bridring all on widow and super on genji

raw ermine
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they all gotta take turns play ana

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lmao

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"I'm not broke enough to borrow money"

karmic grotto
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lmao

tawdry hamlet
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I mean he plays for boston he might be aPES_RoastedPepe

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but out of all the people to impersonate lmaoo

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strange

weak bolt
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I can see it working

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"Please give me money so I can pay to get myself on a better team"

next mesa
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nah I bet boston paying him mad stacks to stay tbh

hot heart
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Probably

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S4 is gonna be good

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Even boston are trying to pull it together

weak bolt
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I'm waiting to see if Houston can pick up a decent MT and MS, and actually add another team to mid tier

hot heart
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What other MTs are there

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That are actually good

weak bolt
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Sado is available

hot heart
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I wonder is sado is interested in joining the outlaws

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Yeah

weak bolt
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OGE I guess isn't awful

hot heart
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Tbh

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For a team like houstan

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Idk man

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I feel like houstan are gonna get contenders talent

weak bolt
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Considering their current lineup is Hydration, i think they have options

hot heart
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And sado at MT

weak bolt
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Florida still need a MT right?

hot heart
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Idk what hydration is doing over there tbh

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Yeah they do

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And a MS

weak bolt
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NYXL in the market too, so going to be a bidding war most likely

hot heart
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I assume there's going to be a massuve bidding war over sado

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Almost like fearless

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As soon as he was open to offers he got huge offers from alot of teams

weak bolt
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AlphA is still without a team I believe, he was pretty good on EM

hot heart
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Yeah

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I think if sado is too expensive you go for AlphA

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AlphA Piggy tankline sounds pretty good

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Junkbuck and harhsa with contenders prospects sounds really good

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I genuinely might watch houstan next year and expect them to win sometimes

weak bolt
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I think they'll be able to be mid tier, alongside Atlanta

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Not good enough to rival the top top tiers, but able to sneak a few upsets and reliably beat lower teams

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I also want to know who Shock are adding. It's got to be a flex dps surely, or someone else is likely leaving

hot heart
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Hmm

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See

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Shock have had 4 dps for 2 seasons now

weak bolt
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Only other potential spot would be an OT for Zarya only

hot heart
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At this pount

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Its needed

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So

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I expect them to sign a flex dps

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But i really dont know who you'd pick up

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Other than like ivy

weak bolt
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I think they pick up Ivy or Erster

hot heart
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Erster has the higher ceiling but ivy is more consistent

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I think they take the risk

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Crusty has the balls to do it

weak bolt
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Depends on their faith In ta1yo I suppose

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Is he reliable enough as a backup

hot heart
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Honestly

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As a backup

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Yeah

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He's fine

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But you need someone with MVP levels of peaks

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And erster is that guy

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Ta1yo just isnt

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Not right now

weak bolt
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Maybe you pick up a player whos been on 2 separate owl teams, and has a top Pharah, and pick up Sideshow

hot heart
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But later on he probably will be seen as crusty has so much faith in him

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Mr. Egg would bolster the dps line

weak bolt
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Could Crusty coach the egg, or would it cause him to crack (pun intended)

next mesa
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isn't libero available as well

hot heart
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Push them to the next level off dominant

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Liberos available yeah

next mesa
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honestly would argue that libero is the best

weak bolt
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What if Shock just said to Haksal, come play for us and win, and he was like Yeah ok

next mesa
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steams gonna be pretty stacked

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teams*

hot heart
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I think libero and ivy are the 2 most likely options

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Erster hasnt played much

next mesa
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haksal does fill the genji and doom void

hot heart
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And didnt look too hot

next mesa
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that shock still has

hot heart
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So the risk is higher with him

next mesa
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shock still can't fill doom genji echo and maybe mei

hot heart
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Yeah

next mesa
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although that might very well change with some crusty magic

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i font know

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dont*

weak bolt
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Sign Haksal for Flex dps, and Seominsoo for Zarya, make a Titans/Shock hybrid super team

next mesa
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too bad haksal retired

hot heart
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God that would be incredible

next mesa
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I still fucking hate titans management dude

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disassembled the greatest storyline of all time

hot heart
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Haksal Sinatraa dps line

next mesa
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actually not the greatest they got swept in the finals, but still

hot heart
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S2 finals was sad

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But also exciting as hell

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Shock just went on a tear

weak bolt
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Maybe Shock bring back Architect

hot heart
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That would be good

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Doesnt architect have a great sombra?

weak bolt
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He'd fill the gap, and I suspect he'd love to be back with the Org, but maybe he's moved on too much now

hot heart
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Maybe

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HZ honestly might just outbid shock

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Even if they did try to get architect

next mesa
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idk he might wanna stay with godsb

weak bolt
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Maybe that move is funding HZS's spending 😄

noble nexus
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architect is a nutcase I could see Shock trying to get him back

silk frost
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probably wants to stay

karmic grotto
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Shock signing Haksal, hmmm

noble nexus
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he seems fine with spark tbf

hot heart
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Yep

silk frost
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why are we speculating that Shock pick someone up?

noble nexus
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they said they aren't finished with roster announcements on twitter

weak bolt
silk frost
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probably Super gone

hot heart
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Because flex dps is empty and they said they arent done with roster changes

next mesa
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why super gone

noble nexus
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I really doubt super goes

next mesa
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super leaves, their likeability just reduced by half

noble nexus
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he's best rein in the league

silk frost
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because, direct quote from platchat, he's "worth his little noodle arms weight in gold"

weak bolt
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Super to Houston would be curious though honestly

silk frost
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he'll be expensive to keep and could get Shock an eco boost which they still may need

hot heart
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Shock rn cant afford to lose anyone other than ta1yo tbh

weak bolt
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It kind of disputes the reports of Crusty wanting a mixed roster though to let go another western player

noble nexus
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if they get rid of super they're barely western

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and they want to stay western

next mesa
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I doubt super wants to go anywhere else

noble nexus
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ya

silk frost
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they could try and yoink an NA contenders talent to replace

noble nexus
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if super leaves shock he's probably going full time streamer

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realistically

next mesa
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that's literally so unreasonable

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a lot of contenders mts flop

weak bolt
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I could kind of see Super joining a team if he thinks it'll be fun and he's getting paid bank and starting every game

next mesa
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and they are trying to 3 peat

silk frost
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idk it makes the most sense to me

next mesa
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they are trying to 3 peat

noble nexus
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doesn't make sense at all to me

next mesa
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why would you replace super with some na contenders mt

silk frost
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Mikeyy could be good

next mesa
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when you are literally trying to contend

hot heart
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Huh

weak bolt
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Depends if Super is happy bench warming for all but Rein meta I suppose

next mesa
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who is mikeyy lmao

hot heart
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Man really said mikeyy could be good

silk frost
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he could be tho

noble nexus
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super has been benchwarming all season

next mesa
hot heart
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He was on boston

next mesa
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literally on boston bench

hot heart
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For some time

next mesa
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how do you get benched on boston

hot heart
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Man

weak bolt
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Wasnt it Mikeyy that signed to Boston for like 2 months and got benched by Fusions?

hot heart
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Yep

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Benched by fusions

next mesa
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@weak bolt I think he's content when he played a pivotol role in their playoffs

silk frost
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he was signed as a ball specialist when he isn't a ball specialist

noble nexus
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replacing super with someone benched by fusions

hot heart
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Admittedly fusions isnt bad

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But

noble nexus
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ok

silk frost
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and fusions had the synergy with the team

next mesa
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fusions is pretty bad

hot heart
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Imagine being the guy being benched on boston

next mesa
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in the grand scheme of things

hot heart
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Yeah

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Overall

noble nexus
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yeah no I disagree

cedar oasis
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Is Kaiser still playing overwatch

weak bolt
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Stranger things have happened than Super leaving, thats all I'm saying lol

hot heart
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He isnt great

next mesa
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yes

hot heart
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But he's solid

silk frost
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fine

next mesa
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@cedar oasis

hot heart
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For like

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Mid tier

cedar oasis
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Ok

next mesa
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he's in o2 blast right now

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really tragic

cedar oasis
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I thought he was really good

silk frost
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Decod to Shock

next mesa
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he was

silk frost
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Kaiser at his peak was phenomenal but we're past that now

weak bolt
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The fairy tale story would be OGE joins Houston, and booms Dallas all season

next mesa
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oge is still pretty good

silk frost
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that implies that Houston could be okay

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and I don't like that hope

next mesa
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I would take oge over contenders talent

weak bolt
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Houston are making decent moves honestly

next mesa
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if they sign happy

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they're in a really good spot

weak bolt
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Danteh/Happy/Nero is a pretty amazing dps line up

cedar oasis
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Oge is like a b tier

hot heart
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What is the best roster you could make for houstan if given a decent budget and the rumoured signings of Nero, Happy and piggy?

silk frost
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I think you guys are underrating how good some of these contenders players can be

cedar oasis
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Sign fissure

hot heart
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The main man fissure

silk frost
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you'd probably try to find an under-the-radar MT, work them up to be really good, and then your main support is clearly boink, backed up by like Bebe

weak bolt
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Biggest issue for Houston atm is finding 2 supports

silk frost
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I think bebe is their best bet

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as crazy as it sounds, he's the lowest risk player I think

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we know he's average

hot heart
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Eh

silk frost
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and that'll probably be enough to be decent

hot heart
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Is there really no one other than bebe out there

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I feel like there is

silk frost
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there'll be someone else

next mesa
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bdosin

hot heart
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Oh yeah

silk frost
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dude don't do that

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don't say bdosin

hot heart
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Bdosin is solid

next mesa
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?

silk frost
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we don't need GC busan players ruining anyone but Seoul

hot heart
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Id pick him up

next mesa
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ruining anyone?

hot heart
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But at MS

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Who do you get

silk frost
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I don't trust bdosin enough to go anywhere

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considering he was IGL for this last Seoul and season 1 london

next mesa
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IGL?

silk frost
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in game leader

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basically shotcaller

weak bolt
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Slime to Houston maybe?

next mesa
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oh yes

cedar oasis
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Soul was a coaching fail not bdosin fail

next mesa
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idk about this last seoul

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bdosin didn't play in the playoffs

silk frost
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Everyone who worked with Slime said he only worked with his papi bumper

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otherwise he isn't very good

hot heart
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I think creative might be incredible next season

next mesa
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perhaps

hot heart
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Bdosim is solid

silk frost
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I trust Creative more than Bdosin to be good yeah

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I think we're past bdosin's time, like Kaiser

hot heart
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Yeah

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But like

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It isnr like he's bad

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He just isnt really gonna be at the top anymore

next mesa
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it doesn't make sense

hot heart
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He's reliable and has experience

silk frost
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I don't rate him at all tbh

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well that's to far

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too*

next mesa
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crusty was like

hot heart
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So id say he's worth picking up

next mesa
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bdosin is best player on seoul

silk frost
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really?

next mesa
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yes

silk frost
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when'd he say that?

next mesa
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interview after grand finals

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or before?

hot heart
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Trust the crust

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Hmm

next mesa
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I read the transcript

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I have to find it though

hot heart
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Bdosin better than profit

silk frost
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I trust the crust on this one

hot heart
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Well damn

cedar oasis
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Bdosin is solid

silk frost
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maybe he can go to a team

next mesa
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wait no

silk frost
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*maybe

next mesa
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he didn't say best player

hot heart
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Man

next mesa
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he said like the deadliest

hot heart
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Hmm

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Thats even more interesting

next mesa
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hold on

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lemme find

silk frost
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oh like how jjonak is the deadliest player for NYXL but still pretty average compared to the rest of the roster

next mesa
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maybe

cedar oasis
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Nyxl funnels all their recourses to jjonack

silk frost
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yknow what I'll give you my hottest take

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jjonak isn't even top 10 flex support anymore

hot heart
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Yeah

next mesa
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doubt

cedar oasis
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Hmm

hot heart
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Rn

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Who are top 10 even

next mesa
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alright let's name

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Viol2t

hot heart
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I gotta list them out to know

next mesa
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Myunb0ng

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Alarm

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Twilight

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then what

hot heart
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Hmm

cedar oasis
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Idk

next mesa
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Fielder Creative

hot heart
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Fielder?

silk frost
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Alarm, Voil2t and Twilight are the obvious 3, then Myungb0ng, Shu, and Fielder

next mesa
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Shu yes

silk frost
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then I'd say Molly

hot heart
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Who else

next mesa
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I don't know about molly being better than jjonak

hot heart
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Yeah molly was actually pretty good

next mesa
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like he did say

silk frost
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Molly was probably the best player on Chengdu

next mesa
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wow molly ana is really good

hot heart
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I wonder what jjonak thinks about viol2t

silk frost
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"I wish I was that good"

hot heart
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Pain.

silk frost
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GNJ is probably better

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that's 8

next mesa
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Q30: Most dangerous player on Seoul?
A30: Bdosin. Quick movements, high speed play were difficult to counter.

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I found it

cedar oasis
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I think jjonack just needs better coaches and then he will be top 3 again

silk frost
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interesting

hot heart
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Even with better coachinf

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He wont be top 3

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Alarm viol2t and myungbong exist

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So

next mesa
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I don't know

weak bolt
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Slime and Jjonak to Houston

silk frost
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I don't think coaching will fix jjonak, he's so used to being the center of attention and getting all those resources but we can't be at that point again

next mesa
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mechanically

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I think jjonak is still top 5, very cracked

weak bolt
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OGE, Piggy, Danteh, Nero, Happy, Hydration, Slime, Jjonak

next mesa
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but the way he plays is like

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he doesn't have a brain

noble nexus
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jjonak needs to turn his feed dial down 5 notches

silk frost
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Lastro is probably better, no?

hot heart
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Than jjonak?

next mesa
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dont think so

hot heart
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No

cedar oasis
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Coach out the jjonack feed and he will be very good

next mesa
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holy shit

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we completely forgot about Izayaki

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LOL

hot heart
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dude

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Tbh

silk frost
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oh that's an ez better than jjonak

next mesa
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yeah

hot heart
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Shanghai are filled with talent

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That i just forgot about him

cedar oasis
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Kariv?

hot heart
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Eh

silk frost
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Izayaki has jjonak's mechanics without the feeding and bloodlust

hot heart
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Kariv peaked

next mesa
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I'd say jjonak is still better than kariv

hot heart
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Then kinda slipped

weak bolt
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We tried to rate Jjonak as a FS a while back, and he was barely making top 10

noble nexus
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yeah kariv's had his peak tbh

silk frost
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yeah right now he's sitting at 10th

next mesa
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nah

hot heart
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But then again toronto was ass

silk frost
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based on what we've said

hot heart
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So idk

next mesa
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I think he's overrated

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based on his performance against titans

silk frost
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if we put Kariv over Jjonak, then Jjonak is 11th

next mesa
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but then he's underrated because he was on defiant this season

silk frost
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we'll know how good Kariv is based on this season with Guangzhou I think

raw ermine
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Q27: How did you feel when you had a Sombra meta after Sinatraa retired, a Tracer meta when Striker couldn't play, and a Genji meta after Architect left?
A27: Guess the league hates me

silk frost
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lol

noble nexus
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lmao

hot heart
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Pain

weak bolt
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Kariv is probably more reliable over all FS heroes. But Jjonak has higher peaks on Zen

next mesa
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and ana

silk frost
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if lr1s better than jjonak? We can agree that's a no right?

next mesa
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nononono

hot heart
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No

next mesa
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that man played like a couple of matches for reign

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dont compare plz

hot heart
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1r5s isnt there yet

silk frost
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I'm just thinking about good players lol

hot heart
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Ye

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So

next mesa
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I think jjonak is number 10

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actually

cedar oasis
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I think the league needs better coaches tbh

next mesa
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idk if id put him over gangnamjin

weak bolt
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Whats the list? Bet we've missed some

silk frost
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I think jjonak's ana is also really bad actually, if you see his CD usage and his healing vs damage prios, he's way too offensive

next mesa
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@cedar oasis yes super stated that some coaches are just hot trash

cedar oasis
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Yea like Atlantas

next mesa
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Q) Viol2t and Smurf both said you losing 2CP and Escort was coach diff. What do you say?
A) Was I the one playing? The players were. It's player diff. Say we had Gesture and Creative on our team? Then we win

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fucking hilarious

weak bolt
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That crusty interview was such a troll

silk frost
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#1-3. Voil2t, Twilight, Alarm
#4-6. Shu, Myungb0ng, Izayaki,
#7-9. GNJ, Fielder, Molly
#10. Jjonak

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that's our list

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the tiers aren't ordered i just did who I could think of first

next mesa
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hm

noble nexus
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that's fair

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imo

next mesa
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I think

cedar oasis
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Idk

next mesa
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we'll have to see next season

silk frost
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I agree

next mesa
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but fielder could go on that S tier

hot heart
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My top 8 FS:
Viol2t
Alarm twighlight
Myungbong
Izayaki
Shu
Fielder
Gangnamjin

next mesa
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yeah along with the rest

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where's twilight

hot heart
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Im not sure about every pick

next mesa
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lmao

hot heart
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Yeah

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I forgot

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Lmao

silk frost
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yeah Twilight is the only omission

hot heart
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One sec

next mesa
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lowkey might put myunb0ng above alarm

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for me

silk frost
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I think the fact that we heard Jjonak was trialing for Hangzhou, Guangzou and BOTH already picked up SOMEONE ELSE...

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bad sign

cedar oasis
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What about IDK

hot heart
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I think myungbong on fusion could probably do the same as what alarm did

silk frost
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main support

hot heart
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Not as good

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But

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Almost as good

silk frost
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I think myungbong is a better ana than alarm

cedar oasis
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Wrong one

next mesa
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jjonak trialed for dynasty too

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rumored

hot heart
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Yeah

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But his zen

next mesa
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and then they resign creative, LOL

silk frost
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but alarm better on bap, zen, and moira

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oh god

weak bolt
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I'd argue Creative should be in the list above Jjonak

silk frost
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yeah Jjonak is probably below top 10 then

next mesa
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he did have a solid showing in the GF

hot heart
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Yeah id say creative is better than jjonak

cedar oasis
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Well seeing how much sado improved I think that any player could get alot better

silk frost
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#1-3. Voil2t, Twilight, Alarm
#4-6. Shu, Myungb0ng, Izayaki,
#7-9. GNJ, Fielder, Molly
#10-11. Creative, Kariv (Probably)
#12. Jjonak

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fair

weak bolt
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I think that list is fair if we're considering all FS heroes.

silk frost
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based on the crust, you might put bdosin with Kariv and Crative

weak bolt
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Jjonak is heavily let down by his Moira/Bap

silk frost
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especially considering jjonak is SO AWFUL on bap and moira

next mesa
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im not putting kariv over jjonak tbh

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true

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that is true

hot heart
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I think myungbong is over shu

next mesa
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viol2t is so good because

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he's probably the best in every support

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except ana

silk frost
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like his zen is really good, and his ana is pretty good, but other than that, what does jjonak do

next mesa
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yeah

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I get your point

hot heart
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Yeah

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Basically an upgraded aim god

weak bolt
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Jjonak is just a flashy player, people see him killing or making aggressive plays and assume that's good

plush light
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Nyxl has bad coaching
Jjonak would be top tier under good coaching

cedar oasis
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Is nyxl going budget?

silk frost
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that's why I originally said I liked Crimzo more than Jjonak, because at least he's slightly below average, yet equal at them all

hot heart
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Thing is

next mesa
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nah

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jjonak over crimzo my guy

hot heart
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Jjonak isnt reliable

silk frost
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exactly

hot heart
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What happens in a brig bap meta

cedar oasis
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On zen and ana

weak bolt
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Jjonak should almost be your backup FS for when you know its going to be a Bap/Zen meta or something

silk frost
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Crimzo is always gonna be like 5% below average, but Jjonak is on and off on top of his hero pool

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I'd rather have a serviceable player on every hero at any point than someone who can't do shit every 2 weeks because Moira is good

exotic vortex
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Which do you think is more fun in OWL playing tank or support?

silk frost
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probably support

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it's honestly more of a question of who's LESS fun lol

exotic vortex
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Lol

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Why do you think supp is more fun?

silk frost
#

supports aren't as reliant on their team to pop off right now, tanks are exclusively reliant on their team

exotic vortex
#

And why do you think it wouldn’t be fun to play in OWL, because it’s your job?

weak bolt
#

Depends which team you're on. I'd rather be a tank on Shock, and a Support on Dallas 😄

silk frost
#

no, moreso because if your supporting cast isn't good as a tank AND you aren't top 8 in your position (mostly MT), you're gonna have a bad time constantly respawning

weak bolt
#

The most un-fun thing about playing in OWL is probably the fans

#

Who'd want to read this channel if you were an OWL player, you'd feel awful 😄

exotic vortex
#

I have played MT in scrims (obviously nowhere near OWL level) and I really enjoy it. A lot of the pressure is on you, you have to make space and make sure you don’t feed and you control the fight

silk frost
#

fair

#

I've played both tank roles up to a 4k level and I can confirm off tank is a lot less pressure and probably more fun when you're losing

tidal ridge
#

paris locking in their roster for 2021 rn

silk frost
#

ooo

cedar oasis
#

Tank is the most stressful

silk frost
#

muma spree reunion for paris

exotic vortex
#

When your losing as MT you are constantly respawning

next mesa
#

lol i'd take a contenders tank over muma

exotic vortex
#

But when you win you feel so awesome

cedar oasis
#

Does muma deserve to be in OWL?

next mesa
#

NO

tidal ridge
#

does paris have like

next mesa
#

LOL

tidal ridge
#

money

weak bolt
#

Maybe as a winston 1 trick

exotic vortex
#

He should go back to contenders tbh

tidal ridge
#

muma should pull a reverse hydration and just randomly start playing projectile dps

silk frost
#

maybe as a ball 1 trick

next mesa
#

he should fuckin retire lmao

cedar oasis
#

Yep

exotic vortex
#

Na just do like fearless

silk frost
#

bro I really hope Muma makes it out of gold

#

here's the difference from fearless

next mesa
#

fearless didn't get benched for a fucking dps player

silk frost
#

he was good if you focus in enough in OWL

#

in season 1

#

he was actually mechanically skilled and smart

next mesa
#

fearless didn't get benched for a fucking dps player

exotic vortex
#

Lmfao true

silk frost
#

Muma... isn't

weak bolt
#

Muma did have a wrist injury in fairness

silk frost
#

and he never primaled ever

tidal ridge
#

you guys are forgetting that houston has the worst head coach ever

weak bolt
#

I think he was just boomed mentally. Mechanically I think he could make it on an OWL team as a winston player

cedar oasis
#

Muma this season vs sado season 2

silk frost
#

ok mop no

#

Kyky

exotic vortex
#

But you can’t just be a winston one trick

tidal ridge
#

well not anymore

#

since junkbunk is there

weak bolt
#

Super is a Rein 1 trick, so why not 😄

tidal ridge
#

but co-head coach

silk frost
#

Kyky was horrible

next mesa
#

guys

#

shock lost against: Architect on Hanzo, Xzi on Widow, Hanbin Sigma, Smurf Hog, and Twilight Ana

silk frost
#

fuckin put Taimou over Cocco

exotic vortex
#

Smurf is a winston one trick too

tidal ridge
#

No

exotic vortex
#

But they can play hog and ball

silk frost
#

bro Smurf's orisa mega pounds

tidal ridge
#

smurf's orisa

#

is crazy

exotic vortex
#

Oh yeah lmfao

next mesa
#

in scrims

tidal ridge
#

i know smurf more for his orisa than his winston

exotic vortex
#

I always forget about orisa

silk frost
#

his orisa is mentionably good

exotic vortex
#

Yeah

tidal ridge
#

waiting for houston re-sign their mvp boink

exotic vortex
#

Double shield meta smurf plus marve1

#

Do that

#

And you win

silk frost
#

smurf + choi dude imagine that

#

best orisa and best sigma

cedar oasis
#

Is smurfs rein top 5?

exotic vortex
#

Isn’t marve1 best sigma

silk frost
#

Smurf hasn't played rein I don't think

#

Marve1 is top 10 I'd say

tidal ridge
#

rein was not useful as much as orisa and winston was this season

exotic vortex
#

What ait

silk frost
#

but not as good as Choi man, Cr0ng, or Gargoyle

exotic vortex
#

Am I the only one that likes double shield

silk frost
#

probably

cedar oasis
#

Hydration best sigma

exotic vortex
#

Why do you hate double shield?

tidal ridge
#

ans hates double shield lul

noble nexus
#

it's so boring

exotic vortex
#

Why

noble nexus
#

it's just shooting at shields for an entire game

next mesa
#

marve1 dude

noble nexus
#

why do you like it?

next mesa
#

his sigma is actually pretty cracked

#

maybe just like

exotic vortex
#

It’s fun to manage shields work with your team coordinate abilties and taking space is different

next mesa
#

below void choi hanbin cr0ng

cedar oasis
#

Marve1 is the best OT

tidal ridge
#

remember when orisa's halt could reach across the map

#

man sanctum was fun

silk frost
#

I respect it Fridrikro

#

but I disagree STRONGLY

noble nexus
#

I get that

exotic vortex
#

It’s ok people have different opinions

next mesa
#

marve1 isn't even an OT LOL

cobalt spoke
#

@cedar oasis wrong

exotic vortex
#

I can get why people think it’s boring

weak bolt
#

Marve1 is a MT who plays Sigma as well lol

noble nexus
#

but watching someone shoot at shields for 2 hours at an owl level isn't my preferred saturday night

next mesa
#

honestly

#

seoul needs to get a good offtank

exotic vortex
#

I agree that double shield is not fun to watch

next mesa
#

fury/jjanu

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and then

exotic vortex
#

It’s interesting but not fun

next mesa
#

run marve1 on main tank

tidal ridge
#

not jjanu

exotic vortex
#

It’s like a game of chess

tidal ridge
#

please not jjanu

next mesa
#

when gesture is being sloppy

#

and I think seoul is a deep playoffs run team

silk frost
#

please run marvel on his role he benched Fissure he's good

next mesa
#

marve1 is underrated dude

silk frost
#

so good

next mesa
#

but coach staff aut

#

omg lets put him on ot

cedar oasis
#

Souls coaches

next mesa
#

when you have michelle on the bench

#

and toyou

#

who are both solid

cedar oasis
#

Seoul has had 2 seasons of trash coaches

next mesa
#

their coaches this season was questionable as well

#

their inconsistency

#

like

cobalt spoke
#

If souel actually take viol2t then they are probably the best team

next mesa
#

they really just tried to fucking

cobalt spoke
#

But I dont think they will

next mesa
#

run zarya winston

#

into double shield

#

let gesture feed all game

#

nice bro

#

Q: To supplement the shock roster, which players would you pick up from other teams?

A: Maybe Esca?

#

Esca and jehong and tobi to shock confirmed

cedar oasis
#

Esca poo

cobalt spoke
#

Just put sinatraa on shock

next mesa
#

esca not poo

#

he just went through military

#

he can fuck you up now

cedar oasis
#

Idk man

#

Miro was carrying alot when esca played

next mesa
#

the fuck

#

was anyone carrying on lunatichai

#

besides jehong

cedar oasis
#

Miro

#

He was the best

#

Before owl

weak bolt
#

Nearly all the players from that era are pretty washed now

next mesa
#

profit gesture

#

void

hot heart
#

Only two that are still insanely good

next mesa
#

not washed

hot heart
#

O

weak bolt
#

yeah hence the nearly all part

hot heart
#

Didnt realise void was playing back then

next mesa
#

Alarm was lunatic hai

#

dude

hot heart
#

Wasnt he on kongdoo panthera

#

Man

next mesa
#

Cloud9 KongDoo

#

was insane

#

they had birdring rascal

#

bdosin fissure void wakawaka

hot heart
#

Gesture Profit Alarm on the same team would be insane

#

Imagine that team in OWL

weak bolt
#

Looking at the Rogue squad of that era is pretty nostalgic lol

#

soon, akm, winz, nico, Unkoe, tviq, iddqd, reinforce

tidal ridge
#

reinforce didnt get signed to owl bruh

#

imagine reinforce on s1 misfits

keen aurora
#

where was iddqd from again

weak bolt
#

Sweden

keen aurora
#

dam

#

South Korea was OP

#

bruh owl taking a bunch of element mystic peeps

#

remember when london became the new c9 team

next mesa
#

didnt they take just

#

the whole lunatic hai squad + sbb

#

lmao

#

and called it a day

formal crystal
next mesa
#

yeah

#

poko and mano seems decent fit

#

like

#

their playstyles are similar

keen aurora
#

Cool!

rare magnet
#

this makes me happy

karmic grotto
#

Sadly

#

we couldnt see a xqc/space duo

#

sad noises

raw ermine
#

ayyyy

#

xqc space lmaoo

#

we call that the

#

"in space, nobody can hear you slam your desk" tankline

vagrant jacinth
#

Poko!

#

Now I just need soon to get signed and I'll be extra happy

plush grail
#

also mark my words

#

dallas is gonna do something, mess up and manage to become a middle of the pack team again

#

they managed to fuck up the og envyus

#

they're gonna fuck this up too

cloud latch
#

you can reply to messages now???

plush grail
#

yeah

#

it's like a few days old

#

to replace the new quote thing

limber rune
next mesa
#

well

#

fourth place in apex s3

#

actually not bad

#

nvm

swift moth
#

poko is back :)

noble nexus
#

YEPP

#

atleast they aren't entirely stupid

raw ermine
#

Damn you can reply

next mesa
keen aurora
#

wut numlocked went to contenders?

next mesa
#

yeah

#

not surprising

#

he said it

keen aurora
#

ikr

#

wasn't even close to a good season

silk frost
#

I think he was solid

raw ermine
#

Gotta appreciate the perseverance.

#

He has played since 2015

#

And had a liquipedia page dating back til then

#

Chad

trail perch
#

Munkmutta was on CV right?

raw ermine
#

Yes

trail perch
#

Young and Beautiful might be good for next year

keen aurora
#

give me munkmutta's liquipedia can't find it

#

ping me when you can find it

#

nvm found it

#

oh he was on clockwork

#

Oooo

#

did engineer retire?

digital cloud
#

idk

#

haven't seen much of clockwork vendetta since they disbanded

#

munkmutta seems to be one of the members that was actually good beyond just the weird comp they played

tidal ridge
#

i can only reply in a few servers

next mesa
#

yeah same @tidal ridge

#

maybe only discord partners

#

nvm

#

cant reply in NBA server

tidal ridge
#

nope in another discord partner server i ccant

tidal ridge
trail perch
#

Clockwork was a work of art

#

One of the greatest accomplishments of ow in history

next mesa
#

I think they were all talented individually

trail perch
#

A team of onetricks, without scrims, and using in game comms

#

Made it all the way to contenders

raw ermine
#

Remember when toronto played clockwork against nyxl?

#

And actually did well

#

On Havana

trail perch
#

Wasnt the stage 4 meta clockwork?

raw ermine
#

They kept them from capping first point

trail perch
#

Their comp was adopted to owl

raw ermine
#

Then they got full held by bastion lol

#

Clockwork is orisa hog torb

#

It was close but not exactly the same

trail perch
#

*adapted

#

not adopted my b

next mesa
#

they were solo healing right

#

with mercy

#

cuz they got a mei

raw ermine
#

Sometimes

trail perch
#

No it was mercy ana

#

usually

next mesa
#

really

raw ermine
#

It was munkmutta who flexed between ana and widow

digital cloud
#

the skills do overlap

#

sort of

next mesa
#

munkmutta

#

not bad kid

raw ermine
#

Yeah

#

Sometimes you headshot sometimes you don't

#

Throw nades, throw mined

#

Mines*

weak bolt
plush grail
#

what the fuck is his twitter handle

tidal ridge
#

whats with korean players and smashing their keyboard for their twitter handle

weak bolt
tidal ridge
#

i hope someone bought them

plush grail
#

a promising european tank player leaving their team

#

2 days before londing is planning to reveal their roster 👀

#

also daans updated his bio but hasn't posted a lft yet

#

holy fuck one of the fuckin 300 dutch players in contenders might make it to owl

raw ermine
#

OK THINGS ARE HAPPENING

cedar oasis
#

Ooh

raw ermine
#

Tons of Dutch players in contenders

plush grail
#

pretty sure the the most popular nationality in contenders is british

#

and the 2nd most popular is dutch

#

but for some reason there's only 1 dutch person in owl and it's a coach

raw ermine
#

Yeah

#

Guess which is the most popular in contenders Korea?

#

No prize for getting it right

next mesa
#

african americans

plush grail
#

thats my favorite nationality

next mesa
#

yeah

#

my favourite nationality is egypt

plush light
#

Alarm was a main tank when alarm carpe bernar bunny and twilight were on bk stars

raw ermine
#

Yeah

#

Weird times

plush light
#

Carpe was the genji player xd

worn falcon
#

Vite Ramen Revival

#

nice sponsor here

true hound
#

carpe was a good genji

#

only thing was hes only remembered for one thing on his genji

cedar oasis
#

Until taimou killed him as widow

true hound
#

yep

plush grail
#

wait was it carpe on genji on that one clip on dorado

#

where taimou grappled up and headshot carpe

next mesa
#

no

#

that was bunny

#

and it was on tracer

#

envyus vs bk stars right

#

I remember

#

ohhh

#

but carpe did get fucked on volskya

cedar oasis
#

Yep

#

Then he became one of the best widows

plush grail
#

man that's crazy

#

that was considered top tier ow

#

but only 3 of those players remain

#

all of envyus is gone now

next mesa
#

as the game progresses people jsut get better

plush grail
#

mcgravy isn't making owl s4 :(

true hound
#

😔

cedar oasis
#

He was ok this season wasent he?

plush light
#

Ok doesn't make the cut to stay in owl unless your zephyr

raw ermine
#

He was decent

weak bolt
#

He was ok on an average roster. His biggest selling point was he was marketable

raw ermine
#

and his 5k bomb

plush grail
#

super marketable

raw ermine
#

matthew super demarketable

plush grail
#

he's not staying in contenders for long

#

some owl team is gonna be like, hey mcgravy is pretty good and our tankline wasn't what we expected

#

YOINK

plush light
#

XD

plush grail
#

you all know this is gonna happen for sure

cedar oasis
#

Who though

plush grail
#

100%

cedar oasis
#

Most teams tank lines have been ok

plush grail
#

muma

#

pog

cedar oasis
#

True

#

I think Houston want a really good team not a mediocre one this year

raw ermine
#

nero happy still is a potent dps line

#

nero happy danteh is nuts

tidal ridge
#

which is why they're gonna re-sign boink right

cedar oasis
#

I just thought isnt this the first year Houston have had some good funding?

raw ermine
#

s1 to s2 they had poor funding cause their team was being sold

#

and I guess that is the same for s1

#

but s3 they could afford meko and hydration

#

so idk

cedar oasis
#

Is meko staying with them

#

He looked like a top 6 ot

#

He was consistent

raw ermine
#

idk did his contract expire?

cedar oasis
#

I am not sure

#

I know there keeping danteh

digital cloud
#

people think he is getting dropped for piggy

#

also, apparently there are rumors houston wants crimzo

#

if the rumors are true, all they need is a good support line and mt

#

or maybe hydration becomes a good mt, who knows

#

I have my doubts

raw ermine
#

hmm

#

revival have a gig-gravy tank line

weak bolt
#

Are NYXL actually forming a decent roster? 😮

cedar oasis
#

NOO

#

Wait

#

I forgot

raw ermine
#

hmm

cedar oasis
#

Is ivy flex dps?

weak bolt
#

yes

cedar oasis
#

What about libero

#

Poor poor libero

weak bolt
#

Libero is likely gone

earnest leaf
#

Libero to shock maybe

cedar oasis
#

Libero has always been top 5

raw ermine
#

what does ivy do better than libero?

#

is his mei that much better?

tardy wedge
#

honestly I haven't seen enough of libero lately to know

#

it could just be a preference for working with ivy

plush light
#

Ivy isn't corrupted by new york coaching (yet)

tardy wedge
#

libero to shock seems likely, though

cedar oasis
#

Libero has a very good mei

weak bolt
#

I think with NYXL its probably just a change of culture, get people out and start fresh

raw ermine
#

Timmy Tourney 2020 by platchat is live

#

watch a bunch of timmy's feed for a couple of hours

tropic herald
#

Spark are bringing it home

next mesa
#

didnt spark just get that really promising off tank

raw ermine
#

lige and bernar

#

hmm

tropic herald
#

They going for the 12 man

next mesa
#

idk maaan

tidal ridge
#

i feel bad for avalla

#

\

raw ermine
#

appreciation thread for avalla RN

cobalt spoke
next mesa
#

yo i'd tap that

#

actually nah

tropic herald
#

This is a precursory

karmic grotto
#

Uhmm

tropic herald
#

!!nsfw

young fractalBOT
#

NSFW stands for 'Not Safe For Work', meaning anything that could be considered inappropriate, graphic, or sexual in nature. Such content is not allowed in any form on this server.

raw ermine
#

UGUGUGfkzdjfkF

#

UUHHHHH

karmic grotto
raw ermine
#

I saw that and convulsed physically

next mesa
#

yeah I wouldn't tap that

#

I change my mind

raw ermine
#

I thought the female moth was Mothika, similar to Mattsuki, and Taiyuri

cobalt spoke
#

Mothika is better

next mesa
#

ans

karmic grotto
digital cloud
#

Who is making these

#

And can they do one for Jake

cobalt spoke
#

Super reddit made these

#

But I just made one for jake

#

@digital cloud

raw ermine
#

oh boy

#

website?

edgy tinsel
#

jake lowkey cute

silk frost
#

Jake doesn't need to be a woman to be cute

#

But HOLY SHIT AZTAC

next mesa
#

sorry I just poked at scar

raw ermine
#

AYOAYOYAYYYAYOAYO

#

"as a kpop girl group"

#

sounds about right

cedar oasis
#

Stop

silk frost
#

Albert Yeh said they won the off season

next mesa
#

Who

noble nexus
#

florida manager

storm citrus
#

i've missed a lot of owl

#

can someone fill me in on the roster changes we know of so far

#

please

raw ermine
#

since the offseason started?

next mesa
#

at this point

#

wait for next season

#

2 days before start

limber pine
#

!!owl2021

young fractalBOT
limber pine
#

@storm citrus ^

storm citrus
#

oh moth is a free agent?

raw ermine
#

nah

#

he went to gladiators

storm citrus
#

oh dam

raw ermine
#

tldr:

#

All of paris are gone

#

players and coaches

storm citrus
#

wait no?

next mesa
raw ermine
#

all the EM players on the team + fielder went to dallas

next mesa
#

yeah

#

and they completed that roster with fearless and jecse

raw ermine
#

and dallas are paying the big bucks

next mesa
#

it's just

#

a beast now

raw ermine
#

Sfs lost rascal and moth

#

rascal is FA

storm citrus
#

oh dam

next mesa
#

fusion released ivy and fury

raw ermine
#

they signed agape and promoted casores

storm citrus
#

season 4 is going to be mad

raw ermine
#

to assistant coach

next mesa
#

re signed alarm, poko, carpe, funny astro

raw ermine
#

toronto dropped everyone except beast and logix

storm citrus
#

oh dam x2

raw ermine
#

just today they signed aztac from wgs phoenix

#

and they signed KDG

#

ninek went to philly

storm citrus
#

these are pretty big then

raw ermine
#

lots of teams dropped all the mediocre players

#

biggoose and shaz retired

#

and jaru

next mesa
#

justice signed Mag

#

and Jerry

storm citrus
#

they didn't touch my boys at dragons did they?

next mesa
#

they did

storm citrus
#

no

raw ermine
#

they lost fearless

next mesa
#

fearless went to dallas

raw ermine
#

and got fate

next mesa
#

diem luffy geguri

#

free agents

storm citrus
#

oh shit