esports-discussion

[trail perch]

Someone ban this man

For lies and slander

of our king

Bumper

[plush grail]

don't lie to yourself

bumper is but only a gigachad

[trail perch]

@next mesa Help me out here

[next mesa]

What

[trail perch]

Bumper is the king of chads

[next mesa]

The fuck did you just say

[trail perch]

This man is saying that ameng is more chad than bumper

[next mesa]

Bumper = God

The only reason he's not in owl

Is because it's just too unfair

[trail perch]

Amen

[plush grail]

No bumper is a pussy and his team collapsed smh

[trail perch]

BAN

[plush grail]

Ameng has been fucking around on ball this entire season

[raw ermine]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ameng

[plush grail]

And still is not getting dropped

[trail perch]

Never talk shit about Runaway or The old Titans

[plush grail]

No ameng = no win

[trail perch]

wrong

The hunters have ameng and dont win

[plush grail]

wdym, they became the season 3 winners

every team they faced just quit

scared of the yottachad

[trail perch]

shore

[cedar oasis]

Bumper<ameng

[vagrant jacinth]

no news today sad

[plush grail]

november 14th was the deadline for contract extensions right

[vagrant jacinth]

sounds about right

[plush grail]

being a nyxl fan during season 3 sucked

but being a nyxl fan during the season 3 offseason sucks even more

they already dropped half the team, is the other part safe or are they gone too

[vagrant jacinth]

pain.

[cedar oasis]

Teams dont have to announce if they sign someone do they?

[raw ermine]

well

I guess not

but the fans would eventually find out

or it will get leaked

heck, even the player who was signed could say

its like a country going to war without telling their people

lmaoooo

[solar bison]

Wtf lmao

I want it

[vagrant jacinth]

ameng mug ameng mug

[sullen berry]

I wouldn't mind a mugshot of the players heads as merch

[hot heart]

Ameng mug

[next mesa]

ameng mug

[sullen berry]

Fanatics if you're reading this you're being charged for it in OWL Jerseys

[next mesa]

I would buy that no cap

[hot heart]

Ratioed by Ameng Mug

[sullen berry]

Fuck it

[hot heart]

Fuck it, Ameng Mug.

[sullen berry]

I'll make one now and see how that looks at one of those custom stores

[next mesa]

ill pay no more than 20$ doe

[sullen berry]

Well that's the thing, they're used to be personalised and sold in bulk for corporate customers

Charge jerseys going on sale for xmas

Which means there's probably more going on sale in January, Fyi

https://www.fanatics.com/overwatch-league/guangzhou-charge/guangzhou-charge-overwatch-league-15oz-coffee-mug/o-76582312+t-54475823+p-81377726+z-8-837452238?_ref=p-TLP:m-GRID:i-r20c2:po-62

Just need to Amegify

[inland flare]

Gladiators or Dallas Fuel??

Who would win?

[next mesa]

fuel

[tropic herald]

Both are good

I think glads have more raw talent

[inland flare]

Same

[tropic herald]

But fuel got better coaches

[next mesa]

i'd take fearless over muze

unless proven otherwise

hanbin over space for sure

xzi over birdring

moth over jecse

[tropic herald]

It’s hard to take anyone over Fearless

[next mesa]

yeah

im just saying on paper

[tropic herald]

I have a feeling MuZe is gonna puns this year doe

[next mesa]

fuel is a lot more stacked

[tropic herald]

Pound

[next mesa]

perhaps

[tropic herald]

Also I think there’s a chance Glads get another OT

Which there is some high profile OTs on the market rn

[next mesa]

perhaps

that would mean benching space doe

[balmy wolf]

well imo dallas has better chances of doing well in playoffs

[next mesa]

yeah

[balmy wolf]

glads have the curse of never making it out of semis

[next mesa]

dallas was like

never in the playoffs doe

[balmy wolf]

post season yea

[next mesa]

lmfao

[balmy wolf]

but rush actually won something in the league

dpei has gotten none

[sullen berry]

1 in 10 playoffs is still a percentage higher than most

[next mesa]

true

[balmy wolf]

rush and EM had immense success in t2 so i trust them more

[next mesa]

I think we might be overrating the hanbin sparkle xzi fielder core doe

did they play in the playoffs

[sullen berry]

4 stages + 3 (season 2 did top 12 playoffs) + 3 monthly touneys + 1 season playoffs

wait that's 2 in 11

damn

[balmy wolf]

the EM core was literally the best team in contenders after runaway got picked up

[sullen berry]

season 2 fuel had high hopes, but they faced KR Titans in playoffs then

[true hound]

s4 better be philly vs outlaws finals where philly gets reverse swept and gets 2nd once again

[next mesa]

yeah but just look at how paris did in the playoffs

[tropic herald]

Dallas have the curse of imploding every year

So I think I’ll take the glads curse

[next mesa]

honestly I think there's a small chance with the head coach change

[balmy wolf]

we all know that this year playoffs was due to blizz shit balancing

[next mesa]

if the management just shuts the fuck up and give them the greens

[balmy wolf]

no one could've predicted fucking hog would be hard meta for playoffs

its just unluckly

[next mesa]

fusion had no excuse doe

they had like a month to practice

honestly

[earnest leaf]

Blizz wanted to make an interesting meta for playoffs

[tropic herald]

Fusion kinda booked

They stayed on Winston too long

Then stayed on zen too long

[balmy wolf]

that was blizz excuse for playoffs

they just didnt want DS to come back

[earnest leaf]

It's what super had said

That blizz wanted to make the patch before playoffs for an interesting meta

[next mesa]

that was just fusion being stupid

they just got embarassed

[balmy wolf]

but dallas this year is EM but with a scary ass tankline

the carries are tanks and dps

[next mesa]

yeah

also fielder on good ping

[balmy wolf]

that too

[next mesa]

honestly though I think they still need a tracer player

or

let any 3 of them get a tracer

[balmy wolf]

rush style of coaching was always empowering roles or players

[earnest leaf]

hopefully this year we have more than 3 good teams

[tropic herald]

I think we will

[balmy wolf]

maybe

[tropic herald]

We already have more than 3

[next mesa]

this year we had some

pretty good teams

[tropic herald]

Given that Glads and Fuel appear to be joining the powerhouses

[balmy wolf]

we only had 3 elite consistent teams

[next mesa]

but like 2 GREAT teams

I dont count fusion LOL

[sullen berry]

paris did in the playoffs
Fuel management have probably agreed they need to set up a hand off approach

[earnest leaf]

fusion just never won anything this year lol

always 2nd

[next mesa]

tbh always 2nd is still pretty good

[balmy wolf]

winning is better

[next mesa]

if they actually got 2nd as well in the playoffs

it would've been a good season

[balmy wolf]

they probs spent the most out of any team and still flopped in playoffs

[sullen berry]

they panic each time - never intentional, but putting the matches down to your individual talent rather than the organized crime I watch when Fusion is dominating the bottom teams is really odd

[next mesa]

yeah dude just before the playoffs

I mean

[balmy wolf]

well thats always been their thing

[next mesa]

the overwatch they were playing

was just scary

[balmy wolf]

they've never been like the old titans or shock who were hive minds

their close

but when face with other elite teams they just fall short

[solar bison]

Who was their shot caller on the fusion

Like on the shock it was moth

[balmy wolf]

there isnt a primary shotcaller u know

[sullen berry]

that might well be the disadvantages of new players like funnyastro, alarm or Heesu who tick so many boxes

[solar bison]

I know

[sullen berry]

FA is a terrific shotcaller for the team

but I think it's also a crutch

[solar bison]

But I remember hearing that moth was the one keeping the team on the same page

[sullen berry]

imagine being a lucio telling carpe to stfu

[solar bison]

Frogger, redshell > carpe

[sullen berry]

that's one thing that does happen in a more situationally appropriate moments in the homestand era

[balmy wolf]

wonder if sado is gonna get picked up this offseason

[next mesa]

of course he is

good main tanks are a gold mine

[balmy wolf]

u may never know

he might not

[earnest leaf]

sado to houston

would be pretty cool

[balmy wolf]

im just waiting for london to announce their team

[cobalt spoke]

Sado is a good player

He doesnt work with fusion though

Yet they keep him on the team for 3 seasons

[next mesa]

? he was good

[cobalt spoke]

He's ok

But something about him and the rest of fusion just doesnt click

[worn falcon]

Someone should hire Muma tbh

[trail perch]

lmao

this guys hilarious

[next mesa]

.

[digital cloud]

muma could maybe be a decent coach or something

[next mesa]

xzi gotta work hard 😩

[next mesa]

Lige

That's team ccs ot

[worn falcon]

thonk

im not familiar

[next mesa]

Me neither

But maybe sign diya now 👀

[formal crystal]

https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1328189096263606274?s=20

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

It's time for a promising off tank:
Welcome the new Spark, LIGE! （～￣▽￣～）
#sparkbang https://t.co/kqRShnlzzR

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 4:12 AM

[digital cloud]

oooh

[silk frost]

YUHHHHHHHH

[digital cloud]

I was wondering if lige was gonna get picked up

[silk frost]

he's a freak beast

[tropic herald]

I was a little confused by QoQ being dropped

But it makes sense now

[digital cloud]

a soul for a soul

[silk frost]

Lige has Space-level potential imo

[digital cloud]

only space level?

I sort of saw him as more like choi level

maybe not quite that good, but up there

[next mesa]

Space level is like

B+ tier tho

[tropic herald]

I think from what I’ve seen

LIGE could be the best OT

But

It’s just potential at this point

Also if Spark can just fill out their team with some more good players

I really hope they actually got MCD like halo reported

[formal crystal]

They also got Seominsoo

[tropic herald]

That’s a really good looking team

Honestly

Not elite

But they should be solid

[digital cloud]

I mean, if they have lige, sms, and mcd

[next mesa]

And guxue

[digital cloud]

just a few more players make it elite

[next mesa]

And godsb

Right

If you sign diya 👀

[formal crystal]

Guxue finally has a chinese off-tank partner

[tropic herald]

Guxue Lige Architect SMS Godsb MCD

Which main support did they keep

[next mesa]

I forgot lmao

But that looks good

[tropic herald]

I really hope they kept M1ka

Bc if so

[formal crystal]

I don't have image perms

but m1ka

[tropic herald]

That would be a good lineup

Looking good

[digital cloud]

looking pretty good actually

a few more pieces and that could easily be top tier

[tropic herald]

I don’t really see a weak spot tbh

[digital cloud]

I am not too familiar with shy or idk

[tropic herald]

iDK good at kucio

Lucio

Shy was on Hangzhou academy

[next mesa]

iDK was chosen as owwc last year

They didn't win doe

[tropic herald]

He was they guy on China OWWC when they started doing good

It was Shy Leave

[next mesa]

O

Not bas

[silk frost]

if Lige preforms up to his maximum potential, Spark may be back to their season 2 power

he has the chance to be as good as Space, Choi, and Void

[tropic herald]

Off tank skill I think is spiking hard this off season

Some really good off tanks are coming into the league

[digital cloud]

I think ow is starting to get to the point where most new options are pretty good ones

[sullen berry]

I don't have image perms
@formal crystal you want to DM and I'll upload? Faster than using imgur

[silk frost]

Even compared to new off tanks, he's probably top 3 coming from contenders

[digital cloud]

true enough

man looks good

[tropic herald]

LiGe

Piggy

[silk frost]

him piggy and molf1g

[digital cloud]

then again, gator and hawk looked pretty good too

[tropic herald]

There is another off tank

[formal crystal]

@sullen berry was just gonna post the roster someone else already posted

[digital cloud]

and we know how that worked out

[tropic herald]

Kalios been looking good too

[silk frost]

this is different from Gator and Hawk

[digital cloud]

maybe

[silk frost]

Gator was worse OWL than Pokpo, considering how he didn't start

Lige is a rookie with everything to prove and middling expectations

[tropic herald]

Remember ATL acad had a much better support line than actual ATL

[silk frost]

and a better coaching staff

[sullen berry]

@formal crystal oh yeah, fair enough

[digital cloud]

didn't they have kodak and fire or something

[sullen berry]

damn I would have gone off on this

[silk frost]

yeah

[tropic herald]

Kodak FunnyAstro

[sullen berry]

my podcast was lacking any spark content today

[digital cloud]

oh yeah, funnyastro

what happened to him

he was good

[silk frost]

idk dude

[tropic herald]

Yes

[silk frost]

he should play

[tropic herald]

Then Philly posched him

Poached

[silk frost]

what podcast now?

[digital cloud]

Atlanta seems to do the same thing to their players as Houston does

[silk frost]

what does Houston do?

[tropic herald]

Lose

A lot

[silk frost]

lmao besides tthat

[digital cloud]

you know, they turn gold to trash

[silk frost]

fair

Erster always had too high of expectations

[digital cloud]

erster was super good though

[tropic herald]

Players who made a career after joining Houston: 1

[silk frost]

he was a decent player who had to live up to MVP level expectations

tmw that person is coolmatt

[digital cloud]

ironically, Rawkus

rawkus still has a career

for now

[silk frost]

but Erster was NEVER that good, he was solid but the expectations were just too much

[tropic herald]

I was thinking about Danteh tbh

Man is actually insane

[silk frost]

Jake made one in casting

[digital cloud]

he definitely was that good, the match against shock was insane

casting doesn't count

and danteh looks like he might be washed now

[next mesa]

How

[silk frost]

as I've been saying

[next mesa]

He just hit #1 combined

Doesn't say much

But

[digital cloud]

ah yes

[tropic herald]

How can Danteh be washed

[digital cloud]

ranked

[next mesa]

It looks like he's peak

[digital cloud]

the ultimate indication

[silk frost]

go back and look at his OWL play in playoffs and before

the last 5th of the season was mediocrity

[digital cloud]

not how trashy he looked at the tail end of the season

[tropic herald]

I will be a Danteh fan

To the end

[digital cloud]

could just be feeling boomed after a normal houston season

I won't write him off yet

but I wouldn't be surprised given what Houston does

[silk frost]

ngl I respect your dedication to danteh, and I hope he doesn't die out, but he doesn't look to impress for 2021

[tropic herald]

I also think Danteh is the best western tracer

Really shouldn’t be an argument

[silk frost]

I think Shax is

[digital cloud]

he was

[silk frost]

if not then Danteh

[digital cloud]

and might still be, idk

[silk frost]

I think shax is a few inches better

but not by much

[tropic herald]

I am also very sorry to inform you but I am now a Gladiators simp

MuZe is simply too cool

[silk frost]

ah yes, you have a brain

Moth Shaz MuZe Birdring Kevster Space

2021 glads

[next mesa]

Idk if that dps and space is enough

[silk frost]

really?

I think they can all win a championship

and Space has

[next mesa]

For championship

[silk frost]

Birdring has won one too

[next mesa]

Like space is just a tier below

Choi, void, hanbin

Imo

[silk frost]

I think hanbin is below Space

I'd swap hanbin to 4th and have space 3rd

or I'd put Cr0ng up there

[next mesa]

Bruh

Hanbin def better

Yeah cr0ng too

[silk frost]

I really rate space

I think he's at least equal to Hanbin, Crong, and Choi

[next mesa]

You think space is choi level

Interesting

[silk frost]

mostly because of flexibility

I do NOT like Choi's zar or ball

I think at both he's bottom 5

[next mesa]

We're always gonna look at sigma more doe

It just weighs more

[silk frost]

granted, top 3 on the other heroes he'd play but

[next mesa]

O yeah but

Smurf can ball

So it's fine

And it's a main tank

Not really his job

[silk frost]

I know, but he's had to play it before

and it wasn't good

if he can't go sig, hog, or d.va, I have big concerns for Shock

his zar is just not up to a level it should be

meanwhile Space and Void don't have a hole in their pool

we've never seen space need to play ball so I don't have it in my mind, same with Void

especially considering I think Stand1 is a pretty strong ball

[cobalt spoke]

Off tank players almost never play ball

Its just not a thing

Ball is a main tanks job

Also choi's zarya isnt top tier bur he's definetly still above average on the hero

Even if only slightly

[silk frost]

I really don't agree with that tbh

I think Choi is a terrible OWL zarya

[cobalt spoke]

he isnt terrible

[silk frost]

I personally really don't like it

at least from the eye t est

he might be good statistically

[noble nexus]

I don't think Choi's zarya is that bad

it's def his worst hero but it isn't terrible

also doesn't smurf play a bit of zarya too?

[cobalt spoke]

No

It kinda just happend one time

Forget it

Also

Choi is #9 zarya in terms of final blows

And number 4 in eliminations

So idk

[digital cloud]

not bad for final bloes

[cobalt spoke]

Final blows gives a better rep of you as a player

And if choi is a #9 zarya thats probably true

Like I said

Slightly above average

[noble nexus]

ah fair enough

Shock have needed a top tier zarya since sinatraa left tbf

and they've lasted the season with Choi on zarya

[cobalt spoke]

The thing is choi zarya is literally shocks lowest point in there team

[noble nexus]

yeah that's their weakest point

[cobalt spoke]

Thats it

[noble nexus]

well that and their new need of a flex for some of the proj heroes

[digital cloud]

ta1yo maybe picks that up?

[cobalt spoke]

Yep

[digital cloud]

zarya, that is

[noble nexus]

idk maybe

[cobalt spoke]

All shock really needs is an echo player

Shouldn't be that harf for ta1yo to pick up

[digital cloud]

I still think if there aren't too many changes up to next owl, ashe and tracer are gonna still be the top

that said, having a good echo is probably important

[noble nexus]

tracer ashe/ reaper sombra dive

I assume anyways

[digital cloud]

yeah, reaper sombra ought to still be good as well

[noble nexus]

unless devs come up with some wack ass meta in that crackhouse of theirs

[digital cloud]

some people think ow 2 comes out before next owl

there is some suggestion that the beta might hit at the very least

[silk frost]

probably

fun fact: Smurf is pretty average statistically as Ball in every stat...
Except for env kills, which he's #2 in

[noble nexus]

imagine they release beta for a few weeks then release ow2 only for owl so people actually have an idea how to play the heroes

won't happen

but that'd be rad

would also make people have to watch owl to see ow2

[silk frost]

who do you think has had the most fleta deadlifts in OWL and how many do you think that is

[digital cloud]

I thought no one had hit it yet

[noble nexus]

I'd assume someone has at some point

[silk frost]

No plenty of people have

[noble nexus]

striker or profit

probably

[silk frost]

how many times

[noble nexus]

idk from when

like start of season

?

[silk frost]

all time

[noble nexus]

oh

idfk

[silk frost]

Striker has done the most

and he's done SEVEN

[noble nexus]

fucking hell

[silk frost]

ALL of them were on Boston

[noble nexus]

Striker on boston was the definition of a carry

well him and crusty

[silk frost]

yeah

Profit has done two

sorry in WON games

not lost games

[noble nexus]

ah

how many has fleta done in owl?

[cobalt spoke]

Rascal one the hero gauntlet

Never forget

[digital cloud]

never forget linkzr won na widow battle

[silk frost]

I'll check Fleta next, but he's done 1 fleta deadlift in a won game

Profit has done 11 when you talk won AND lost games

[noble nexus]

oof

what a god gamer

[silk frost]

Fleta has done 3 including lost games

[cobalt spoke]

Rascal hasnt done any

Proj dps I guess.....

[silk frost]

he has gimme a sec

Striker has done 9 when you count losses

so that means he's only lost 2 while fleta deadlifting

compared to Profit's 9

[noble nexus]

rip

profit has to deadlift harder tbf

[digital cloud]

striker just does it out of domination

[silk frost]

Rascal has never actually done one

wow

even Swon has gotten one

then again the team had 2 final blows BUT

[balmy wolf]

striker 7 deadlifts? not surprising considering how season 1 boston was

[silk frost]

In won matches

[silk frost]

All I'm saying is I think 2021 will be the year of Birdring

[hot heart]

2021 glads is stacked on paper

But you have to ask

What are the coaches going to do next season?

I honestly think coaches probably fuck the team up

Then glads just go budget or some shit

[hidden vault]

where is OGE going?

[sullen berry]

to free agency?

[cedar oasis]

He was kinda meh this season wasent he?

[sullen berry]

his value has gone up, but he was practically starting from the bottom for the most part

[hidden vault]

why did you say his value went up tho?

[plush light]

Hooreg bench deadlift

[vagrant jacinth]

Lige good? What's his potential like?

[weak bolt]

One of the top OT's in Chinese Contenders I believe

Was on SHD academy team

[onyx dagger]

Since I’m to lazy to check myself; how is doing

[sullen berry]

why did you say his value went up tho?
@hidden vault at first I thought that sounded stupid, but compare to his value from last year when he was signed to Gladiators up until now

he hasn't performed up to expectations

[cedar oasis]

He kinda stayed the same

[sullen berry]

@onyx dagger deleted the roster. twice.

[onyx dagger]

Omfg

No way

[sullen berry]

This time round, they signed non-korean staff

they've all come from their contenders team British Hurricane

who are doing incredibly well in the EU region, so it seems reasonable to start it up

if the teams like London and Paris are going to be returning to EU in 2021

[cedar oasis]

I think British hurricane should be a mid table team

In owl

[onyx dagger]

Ahhh ok

So they deleted their roster twice now and they going to EU?

[sullen berry]

yeah on paper, being good in your region, with exception being Contenders KR

London Spitfire really need to work on their image to appeal to you know

[onyx dagger]

[sullen berry]

E U

[onyx dagger]

London had a good image after the first ow championship / finals

[cedar oasis]

They kinda sucked in season 2

[sullen berry]

the spent all of this year with a budget all korean roster, exceptional players in there though didn't live up to their hype

JMAC and Glister deserve a new home

[onyx dagger]

Season 1 they did good, the second one I don’t know about

[sullen berry]

middle of the pack

they learned that they could get away with almost not trying during the regular season

[onyx dagger]

Mhm

[sullen berry]

gave a good playoffs matches vs Shanghai Dragons

and Shock

[onyx dagger]

Season 1 Shanghai

[sullen berry]

tell me

off the top of your head

[onyx dagger]

Didn’t they go like 1-8

[sullen berry]

how long do you think it takes the pros to complete 5 maps?

@onyx dagger Season 1 Shanghai went 0-40

[onyx dagger]

NOOOO

[sullen berry]

with a -30 map differential

[onyx dagger]

I BOUGHT THE SHANGHAI DVA AND GENJI SKIN-

Lmaoooo

[cedar oasis]

Have you not seen season 3 Shanghai??

Or season 2 Shanghai?

[sullen berry]

clearly the attention faded him

he's stuck in in 2018

he doesn't know

[cedar oasis]

Yea

[onyx dagger]

Nah, I’m just joking. Yes I am stuck

[cedar oasis]

Where Boston are good

[sullen berry]

do you remember who was on top?

I'll give you the top 3 that season: Valiant, Gladiators, New York

[cedar oasis]

In regular season record?

[onyx dagger]

New York and London are both my favorite teams, I started to like New York when the jjonak skin came out.

I played a bit of zen so I got it

[cedar oasis]

Yikes

Jjonack might leave nyxl

[onyx dagger]

Yikes
@cedar oasis very much so

Yeah

I’ve heard

[sullen berry]

yeah weird that I passed up on the Shock doomfist skin

but not the spitfire winston

[onyx dagger]

I got Winston on my Xbox

Jjonak in my Xbox

Tracer all star on my pc

[sullen berry]

hmmm

seemed like a tough investment on console but that's blizzard for you

[onyx dagger]

I’m better on console

[cedar oasis]

Xbox is poo in gm

[onyx dagger]

So I like to spend my fair share on there

[sullen berry]

ah, well that's valid

[onyx dagger]

Especially the Winston skin

[sullen berry]

will it be available on XBOX ONE i have no idea

[onyx dagger]

I RUSHED for that

[sullen berry]

ow2 I'm wondering

multi-console release: they have confirmed it to land on the switch, so keep watch for news next year if it comes to PS4 and XBone

[cedar oasis]

It should come out on both

It would reach more people if it came out on both

[onyx dagger]

Xbone

[sullen berry]

this gen consoles felt unremarkable from a tech perspective

[onyx dagger]

I’m not into new consoles

[sullen berry]

I was in love with the PS3, but didn't have to own the console to appreciate it

[onyx dagger]

I keep my current one

There is no point in buying a whole new version if you already have one

[sullen berry]

you know our discord has been trying to get more people available to set up a console OW tournament

[cedar oasis]

What rank?

[onyx dagger]

Rank?

[sullen berry]

Probably too difficult to set a rank, it's just been in the works but low turnout
I wonder if we'll get those numbers in 2021 though

!!clash

[young fractal]

Community Clash

Community Clash is a series of tournaments offering casual players a chance to compete for fun and small prizes!

It's almost one year since we first announced Community Clash, which means it's time for an anniversary celebration!

Community Clash: Anniversary is a casual open bracket tournament for the Europe and Americas regions on September 26–27, and will also be our console debut on Xbox!
So, whether you're playing on 💻 PC or Xbox, head on over to #624973395393773578 to jump in! Hope to see you there!

For more details and instructions on how to join:
#624973395393773578
https://communityclash.net/

[onyx dagger]

I remember peaking diamond one season, a hanzo inted while the other dps was afk the whole game

I got straight out of they rank

[cedar oasis]

Do they check if people use mouse and keyboard on console?

[onyx dagger]

No

[sullen berry]

You'd have to use your best judgement coming into a console tournament, it's been brought up often

[onyx dagger]

What prizes?

Lmaooo

[sullen berry]

Mostly cosmetic to this server, it's not high stakes

[cedar oasis]

I gave up playing xbox ow and switched to pc

[onyx dagger]

I gave up playing xbox ow and switched to pc
@cedar oasis why

[cedar oasis]

My controller broke

I have a new one now but I enjoy PC more

[onyx dagger]

Noice

Y’all got hackers and cheaters tho

Tehe

[cedar oasis]

Alot of people also use mouse and keyboard on console and that really annoyed me

It was unfair because they always went widow

Did note retire? Because he looked good in season 3

[sullen berry]

Did note retire? Because he looked good in season 3
I'm not exactly sure as of right now, during season 2 Note was the last of the original Uprising players who got traded with RcK which looked great at the time, Dallas had a much better D.Va instead of their signing of rCk

[weak bolt]

I could see note to Titans or Defiant

think he was trialling paris too

[sullen berry]

yeah note had his glimmers, during online play he is the first sigma main to eat an ult with kinetic grasp

oh yeah

wait a second

this was a banger of a match if you're rooting for shock AND fuel simultaneously

okay, pay attention to Rascal's ult and not's positioning

https://youtu.be/jjT0udRnjuQ?t=3996

it's overtime

advantage to shock

[cedar oasis]

Note looked like a good ot this season

He improved alot

[sullen berry]

gotta represent the canadians proud

🇨🇦

[cedar oasis]

I still find it funny that decay was carrying Dallas then when he left he killed their playoff run

[raw ermine]

I guess HZS are slowly going Chinese

[next mesa]

SOME 👏 ONE 👏 SIGN 👏 DIYA 👏

[raw ermine]

I wonder if they'll try and teacher architect chinese

yeah

[next mesa]

BOSTON

SIGN 👏 DIYA 👏

[raw ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-thor-marvel-disney-loki-gif-4888404

Huk to Diya:

[hot heart]

Lmao

Literally anyone to HuK:

Well huk is always desperate

Anyway

I expect diya to sign with Washington

Man

Jerry was not the play

Still dont understand it

Supreme must've seen some incredible play to pick him up

[raw ermine]

diya decay jerry, and maybe stitch?

nah

[cloud latch]

4 hitscan!

[weak bolt]

I can't see Diya getting a team this year honestly

I expect he'll sit on Team CC for a bit, and if anything a team may grab him mid season if he continues improving

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/PharaohOW/status/1328056340917444610

PHΛЯΛӨH (@PharaohOW)

Sources: Paris Eternal owner Drew McCourt is willing to trade the Franchise for a PS5, hopefully with some games included too. Controller optional.

Likes

1107

Twitter · Nov 15, 2020, 7:24 PM

[plush light]

Lmao

[onyx dagger]

I would send a picture of my in my London shirt but...

I can’t send frikin pictures >;(

[cedar oasis]

F

Mano with recouses is going to be the best mt in owl

He was top 5 without any because nyxl would use them on jjonack or the dps

[plush light]

Pine XD

[cedar oasis]

Pine

[next mesa]

omg

im back

[cedar oasis]

Pine>carpe

[next mesa]

maybe

[shy remnant]

pine's LFT right?

[balmy wolf]

Idk

[next mesa]

yes he is

[balmy wolf]

YEP

[cedar oasis]

I think so

[weak bolt]

https://twitter.com/ParisEternal/status/1328378307147075588

Paris Eternal (@ParisEternal)

🇬🇧On behalf of the team, we wanted to thank @BenBest_Ow , @SoOn99 , @NiCOgdh , and @xzi_ow for their hard work during the last season. We wish you the best in your future.

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 4:44 PM

Guess its official they're all gone

[earnest leaf]

Buy can they be better than boston

[cloud latch]

yes

[edgy tinsel]

dallas announced xzi joining before eternal announced him leaving..?

[tropic herald]

Eternal are being held together by literally just Avalla

She’s running trials while also managing the socials

Rip her

[raw ermine]

lmaooo

[weak bolt]

Avalla going to end up on the starting 6 at this rate

[gritty tulip]

hi everyone😎

[weak bolt]

Hi

[keen aurora]

hi

[gritty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/badass-overwatch-jesse-mc-cree-jessemccree-gif-7208701

[cobalt spoke]

Never forget

[raw ermine]

this is gonna be a good meme template

[keen aurora]

ye

[raw ermine]

and there we go

Liquipedia has paris empy

[keen aurora]

xzi is already on fuel

going full korean

[cedar oasis]

Soon should get a team

He is good

[raw ermine]

is this first time we've seen an empty team?

[keen aurora]

didnt envy win season 1 apex

[plush grail]

wait what????? paris dropped benbest, nico and soon???? so unexpected????

[raw ermine]

they did win

[next mesa]

what

they dropped like

[raw ermine]

Who would pick up soon tho?

[next mesa]

idk

soon is still really solid tho

[keen aurora]

glad?

[next mesa]

maybe

[raw ermine]

they have birdring, kevster, so i don't think they need soon

[keen aurora]

But they had a bad season ngl

[plush grail]

pretty sure the 3 frenchmen have some good chances, they were on a half korean team before so they could play on a mixed roster

[keen aurora]

how bout defiant

There entire roster is gone

[plush grail]

defiant might be good

they're not top tier players

but still decent

[keen aurora]

Was

[raw ermine]

logix soon?

[keen aurora]

aglities still free?

[raw ermine]

yeah

but he has been "leaked" to vancouver

so idk

[keen aurora]

Oof

He needs to get on some good teams

[plush grail]

holy shit agilities

he's just going lower and lower

first he was on the valiant

then defiant

and now the titans

[keen aurora]

the guy needs to retire

he doesnt get paied enough

to make it serious

[plush grail]

he's gonna end up boomed tbh

[keen aurora]

ikr

he needs a carry

[weak bolt]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1328387654178779138

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

According To Sources: The Houston Outlaws Are Expected To Sign Charlie "Nero" Zwarg

https://t.co/pPDW3RjlB2

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

[tough wharf]

those paris guys prolly didnt agree to a 50k salary

[silk frost]

Houston sadge

[tough wharf]

i bet soon will concentrate on streaming if he doesnt get signed

[keen aurora]

wat

meko free yet?

[vagrant jacinth]

I'd watch soon stream

[tawdry hamlet]

no wayyy

paris dropped their whole roster

bruhh

[weak bolt]

Not a surprise, looked pretty certain when they all posted LFT

[vagrant jacinth]

Expected tbh

[next mesa]

yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

I know I just mean as a whole, like just thinking they dropped their whole team, not the one by one droppings

[vagrant jacinth]

Could see soon and benbest get signed somewhere

[raw ermine]

nero to houston?

[tawdry hamlet]

I hope soon gets signed

[raw ermine]

danteh hydration nero

thats

[tawdry hamlet]

he is still a upper mid dps

[raw ermine]

team USA DPS line

ksf instead of hydration maybe

probably

[tawdry hamlet]

yo what other team has like 2 members atm besides toronto

and paris

[weak bolt]

London technically

and NYXL officially has 0 at the moment

[digital cloud]

nero and piggy would be good pickups on most teams

[keen aurora]

wheres diem is he free?

[digital cloud]

even as a houston fan, I just feel sorry for them

[weak bolt]

Diem still a FA

[keen aurora]

mk

wait sbb,jjonak anamo and libero left??????

[weak bolt]

I think it's a good move for Houston honestly. The team they're putting together looks to be a decent mid tier team so far. They aren't going to win the league, but they aren't going to be awful

[cedar oasis]

Houston finally have momey

[weak bolt]

sbb/jjonak/anamo/libero all needed contract renewals by last Friday or they became FA. No official news of them since

[next mesa]

if houston is signing happy they dont need diem

[keen aurora]

ye

[raw ermine]

The team option time period had finished

[digital cloud]

oh yeah, happy too

[raw ermine]

and as such, all team options not exercised become free agents

[cedar oasis]

They might have stayed and just not posted about it until they have a full roster

[weak bolt]

Perhaps, but you'd expect NYXL to confirm it

[keen aurora]

Imagine jjonak on other teams

[weak bolt]

He'd not be a starter on a lot of them

[balmy wolf]

Yeah JJonak kinda fell off

[tropic holly]

his bap was pretty bad

and his aggro high risk high reward playstyle didn't work this year

[raw ermine]

we all remember him dunking on Chex on anubis tho

[next mesa]

lmao yeah

you dare challenge the octopus king

[tropic holly]

true

i also remember the game against chengdu where he used fade on moira to go backwards away from his team to 1v1 jinmu on genji, but by doing so he didn't heal his tanks and they died and NYXL lost

that's the type of shit I would get flamed and reported for in a ranked game lmfaoooo

[next mesa]

it's just jjonak being jjonak

honestly if jjonak stops being jjonak he would be a much better player

we all know that mechanically he's still fucking cracked

he did win the ana skill challenge after all

[tropic holly]

yeah he's obv mechanically goated

[hot heart]

Holy fuck

Nero danteh and happy on the same squad

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1328388126247677961?s=19

Arran “Halo” Brown (@haloofthoughts)

Danteh, Happy, Hydration, Piggy and Nero https://t.co/3x0tcR8nwH

Likes

138

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

[earnest leaf]

now get sado

[hot heart]

If they actually get sado

Man

Sado Piggy Danteh Nero Happy

Coolmatt is doing good here

[silk frost]

if they get Sado that roster will be good

if not, I'm concerned

[earnest leaf]

ah funnyastro staying on fusion

nice

[silk frost]

yeah

honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Houston was still #20 with all of that

[next mesa]

yeah

astro and alarm

they need that backline at least for title contention

[worn falcon]

Sado to NYXL would be great too

[next mesa]

aren't they signing yakpung

[worn falcon]

That was the rumour

[keen aurora]

I wish

But Nyxl barely gave mano space thats why he left but fusion did give sado lots of space so he did 10x better this season

[raw ermine]

philly tryna jebait us here

[next mesa]

im just calmly waiting for jehong signing 😌

im just calmly waiting for jehong signing 😌

[hot heart]

Where would you rank boston next season based off what we've seen so far from this offseason?

[raw ermine]

they re-signed fusion, chex, myung, and punk

plus replaced mineral

they have improved just cause mineral is gone

but not enough to warrant being not last

[next mesa]

im just calmly waiting for jehong signing 😌

[noble nexus]

Boston also signed Im37 which is really good

[raw ermine]

right

[noble nexus]

the absolute chad

keeping chex wasn't the play tho

[trail perch]

im just calmly waiting for jehong signing 😌
@next mesa and youll keep on waiting

[worn falcon]

Inb4 Jehong becomes OWL korean caster

Like Jake

[next mesa]

shut up bitch you think crimzo is good

[cedar oasis]

Mano will be the best main tank in owl season 4

[weak bolt]

https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1328404973596512256?s=21

Philadelphia Fusion (@Fusion)

After an unbelievable season together, we're absolutely devastated to say goodbye to @FunnyAstro...

But we hope he gets the rest and recharge he deserves at home in the UK before returning to crush the 2021 season with Fusion!

Welcome back, FunnyAstro! https://t.co/6epdwD5p...

Likes

1289

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 6:30 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

ah funnyastro staying on fusion
@earnest leaf 😎

[weak bolt]

10/10 tweet from fusion

[earnest leaf]

It's good they kept their support line

[next mesa]

yes

[earnest leaf]

if they lost alarm it would of been gg

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/oge_ow/status/1328410493875220480?s=21

OGE (@OGE_ow)

@slabmonitorr @JamesOrSenio @charllikespatd @haloofthoughts Ur mom washed

Likes

404

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 6:51 PM

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/STRIKER_OW/status/1328230210647453697/photo/1

STRIKER (@STRIKER_OW)

The MVP trophy is here!!

Likes

4606

Twitter · Nov 4, 2010, 1:42 AM

dope

[true hound]

[plush light]

Fusion with the great jebate

[formal crystal]

https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/sources-nyxl-sign-feath5r

[raw ermine]

hmm

[next mesa]

a lot of talon players getting signed

makes sense super said they were really good

[raw ermine]

and

yknow

they just won KR Contenders

[trail perch]

Pacific contenders....

[raw ermine]

right

[trail perch]

O2 won korean

and WGS

[raw ermine]

why was I thinking about WGS?

both red I guess

lmao

[trail perch]

true

[raw ermine]

he has a similar hero pool to danteh

[vagrant jacinth]

Fusion tweet got me lmao

[keen aurora]

lol

[plush grail]

read the first part and I almost knew for sure he was going to spitfire

but the jebait

[formal crystal]

https://twitter.com/numlocked/status/1328443144409636870?s=20

Seb Barton (@numlocked)

doesn't look like I'll be in OWL next season. gonna be playing this month in contenders + gauntlet then reassess what I want to do next year

Twitter · Nov 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

[silk frost]

what a pal

[fringe laurel]

Maaan numlocked didn't get to play very much well most of owl

[weak bolt]

Bunch of changes coming to replay viewer soon, will help make OWL production/observers a lot

[karmic grotto]

[weak bolt]

My twitter has literally just all turned into Jeff Kaplan

[leaden stump]

I play genju a lot, but any videos I watch to help me get better dont work, any tips from genji mains

Genji*

[raw ermine]

!!help

!!commands

[sullen berry]

What do you need?

[raw ermine]

I was looking for the genji tips thing

I remember seeing one for dva

I thought genji had one

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/OW_Kalios/status/1325471561910874113

O2 Kalios (@OW_Kalios)

at birthday, with GOOd PEOPLE luv you guys ♡♡ @ryujehongsexy @OW_RoKY @ian9721 @Viol2t_OW @JuhoClimax @oogido_

Likes

331

Twitter · Nov 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

Wholesome

[next mesa]

jehong

he's in the front

because he's boss

[hidden vault]

Paris no more French?

[grizzled marlin]

did moth get benched or quit

[tropic herald]

Traded

[grizzled marlin]

why would they trade him

and is super still on shock or no

[next mesa]

yes

[tropic herald]

Maybe Moth wanted new opportunities

Remember that Shu was his old teammate

[grizzled marlin]

oh he asked to be traded?

[tropic herald]

Could’ve

I’m not saying he did for sure

But it’s a possibility

[grizzled marlin]

iodk why they would drop himn tho

u dont drop someone when they won 2 times in a row lol

[tropic herald]

Bc it’s kinda hard to force someone to do something they don’t want to do

I figure the Shock are a good enough org to recognize this

So they respect whatever moth wanted

[grizzled marlin]

no like it makes sense if thats what he wanted

but if he didnt want it then it makes 0 sense

[tropic herald]

Also maybe Crusty sees something in FDGod?

Idk all speculation

Till one of the parties goes into more detail

[next mesa]

I doubt they dropped moth because they wanted fdgod lmao

honestly

most likely was

moth is like

ok im too good

time to explore more opportunities

[grizzled marlin]

lol

[next mesa]

try new things

he did already back to back

[grizzled marlin]

dont they want all korean coms

[next mesa]

fdgod is french..

[grizzled marlin]

yea

so im confused lol

[noble nexus]

they like having western players

[next mesa]

yeah

crusty stated this

[noble nexus]

plus most of the shocks korean players speak good english

[next mesa]

multople times

[noble nexus]

comming in english isn't a bad thing for them

[grizzled marlin]

didnt sinatraa get benched

[next mesa]

no?

lol

super said

sinatraa was going to play

probably throughout the season

[grizzled marlin]

wonder where i heard that

[next mesa]

because of his comms

and his leadership

[noble nexus]

pretty sure sinatraa just lost motivation with the game

and retired

[worldly crystal]

It’s so sad

[grizzled marlin]

hes a beast in val

[worldly crystal]

Yeah heard he’s doing very well

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/hangzhou_spark/status/1328549037373485057?s=21

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

Please welcome our newest Flex Support, and excellent shot caller, Jeong-ho "MCD" Lee (/≧▽≦)/ @mcd_ow #sparkbang https://t.co/O2Q8IM0VtJ

▶ Play video

Twitter · Nov 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

Spark lookin clean

[next mesa]

Naisu

[silk frost]

all of the sudden Spark look nice

[noble nexus]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1328564979692290049

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

So glad all of our roster announcements are done.

ⓘ 𝗢𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴

Twitter · Nov 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

hm

trading super for fusions lets go

[silk frost]

nah dude

giving him up for RoaR

[hidden vault]

MCD whyyyyyy

[hot heart]

Guxue LIGE Architect GodsB MCD iDK

Thats the current roster

Pretty nice tbh

Wait

Arent i missing a dps

Shy

M1ka and coldest too

[balmy wolf]

When condensens starts? i need lucio skin

[plush grail]

Google

[hidden vault]

hangzhou getting more chinese

wasn't elieen rumoured to be going over to Hz?

[sullen berry]

nobody's confirmed this with enough evidence if it was

might be that he's available to all options

including the player option available to him

[hot heart]

Eileen Godsb Architecht dps line

That would be incredible

But honestly you have to wonder what HZ aim for in 2021

They still arent at the type of level where they could possibly win a championship

Even in the perfect situation

[sullen berry]

then again

we have yet to see a chinese team pose a real threat for the championship that's not an all-korean roster

[cobalt spoke]

Wait

Ni

Put architect on shock

Put rascal on shock

[hot heart]

Honestly shock should get architect back i think

They arent done with singings so they're probably signing a flex dps soon

Nero is off the table presumably

And rascal just parted ways with them

[cobalt spoke]

Doesnt matter

[hot heart]

Ivy is the only option i think is left thats really good

[cobalt spoke]

Maybe fdgod was so cheap that he can come back?

[hot heart]

Eh

[cobalt spoke]

You never know

Right?

[hot heart]

Fdgod wasnt cheap

No way

But either way

Nrg have cash

So it doesnt matter

But if architect comes back im happy

[tawdry hamlet]

Hmm

[hot heart]

Hmm

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh covid or not I don't think ta1yo was a great pickup for shock, not even lack of play they just didn't need him at the time, now that rascal is gone it'll be nice to see him I hope

Unless they sign new dps and bench him all season again

[hot heart]

Tbh

I think ta1yo is a backup if they sign a big name at flex dps

Like

As shock

Who do you even sign

Imagine if shock just sign erster

[cedar oasis]

Libero

[cobalt spoke]

They need like someone to play echo and thats literally it

[tawdry hamlet]

Sign saucy

[cobalt spoke]

They dont really need a flex dps