YEAH BUT STILL
#esports-discussion
hot heart
Mr. Delisi is a man of culture
clear crane
Twitter
digital cloud
🦀 dogman is gone🦀
clear crane
wonder if any team goes after him
raw ermine
tbh I thought he might retire
karmic grotto
1ris
is going to be the main
He's playing pretty good, I want to see him at low ping
raw ermine
prolly
hot heart
Explain why myungbong to ATL would be good?
I think he's got alot of talent and if he goes to ATL he'll be surrouned with other really talented players
raw ermine
Myngbong will simultaneously go to all OWL teams
hot heart
Dude
Myungbong is just so good
If i was ATL and i had the opportunity
I definitely wouldnt pass up on it
clear crane
lol well if u wanna put it that wayyyy
hot heart
Nah
clear crane
i can see houston potentially looking to replace rapel
silk frost
I've been saying that too
hot heart
Yeah thats possible
Anything would be an upgrade for myungbong
But he's a beast
Wouldn't be surprised if Shanghai offered him a place in the team
earnest leaf
raw ermine
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limber pine
ffs
earnest leaf
heh
earnest leaf
go look at their twitter
raw ermine
THANK GOD
limber pine
oh it's bait
clear crane
LMFAOOO
earnest leaf
It's funny because I glanced at it and wasn't suprised
hot heart
THIS IS FAKE THANK GOD
raw ermine
how did they get "HoustonOutlaws" on twitter
clear crane
wish it was real
clear crane
watch the real account come out with it now
next mesa
myunbong long schlong big dong
limber pine
reread the above
clear crane
Twitter
raw ermine
fair enough
clear crane
Incoming to London
limber pine
Onigod went into a terrible situation and played as well as one could hope
clear crane
its hard to judge anyone who plays for dallas lol
next mesa
200 ping onigod has not impressed I hope he does better with actual playable playing conditions
devout widget
whens contenders starting
clear crane
would be funny if London just did a repeat of S1 and combine 2 rosters
devout widget
cant find schedule
keen jetty
clear crane
tats last year lol
@raw ermine hmm if u take a closer look i think thats an i in the "Outlaws" portion lol
limber pine
yawn
hot heart
bigger yawn
digital cloud
The boink post was gold
weak bolt
I actually got jebaited by the fake outlaws page, omg
hot heart
Tbh
vagrant jacinth
Fuck sake me too 
raw ermine
Twitter
hot heart
Outlaws is the kind of team i would believe would resign someone like boink
raw ermine
this is the "real" HoustonOutlaws
hot heart
True
next mesa
sure
hot heart
Some women in her late 40's is the real Houstan Outlaws
karmic grotto
LOL
clear crane
lol wtf
weak bolt
My bet is she's a karen who wouldnt give up the twitter handle, but who knows 😄
karmic grotto
when a ML7 fanboy, who is masters dps probably, plays with ML7, and is happy to see him
raw ermine
they probably didn't care enough to ask or bargain wih her
karmic grotto
hehe
Coaches of Shock were probably done and ready for new adventure
Staying on champions team doesn't give you much excitement if you already know the outcome
weak bolt
yeah, I suppose in 1 way its horrible as you lose them, but in another it must be so gratifying, like watching kids go off to college 😄
raw ermine
Now he just has casores and merci
hot heart
limber pine
Twitter
plush grail
???
limber pine
Dallas actively throwing
plush grail
so he's just being let go for real
he's not just checking offers like onigod
or is onigod also dropped def
limber pine
Free agents are free agents
plush grail
wait yeah wtf they're all not being extended
weak bolt
Twitter
vagrant jacinth
Uh Dallas? What you doin
plush grail
but they still have akm, unkoe and trill on the bench
weak bolt
Those players are 100% gone, just not posting LFT
weak bolt
They're LFVT basically
limber pine
Unkoe already made a LFT post
karmic grotto
finally
plush grail
so dallas also isn't gonna re-sign them right
karmic grotto
Now Dallas can rebuild
plush grail
valorant lft right?
weak bolt
yeah
plush grail
so far the titans haven't really made alot of moves
which is suprising
unless they suddenly axe the entire roster
weak bolt
Teams dont actually have to announce anything, and some players may not want to broadcast their status so public
Onigod will probably be ok, there is a whole new EU team looking for 12 players 🙂
plush grail
also glads dropped OGE
what the fuck is happening
also with crimzo and onigod gone
they might go full korean
only non korean left that actually play are paintbrush and note
digital cloud
what if all the teams are dropping players to get the hell out of OWL
I know that sounds ridiculous, but there has been so many free agents
like, a lot of these guys should have been extended I would have thought
digital cloud
not all, but a fair bit
plush grail
yeah but they just weren't working for houston
next mesa
almost all supports
weak bolt
Majority of the teams dropping players have been awful teams. So they're cutting their losses totally and taking a risk on a whole new roster
plush grail
yeah
digital cloud
that could be the case
plush grail
they're just gonna pick up new talent probably
weak bolt
I also wonder how many teams want to pick players up on new contracts rather than extending old ones
Aren't new contracts a lot mroe flexibile when it comes to letting people go?
digital cloud
I don't know
weak bolt
I think for this season, teams are allowed to drop players with 30 days notice for whatever reason they want. It might be new contracts are required for that to be a clause
digital cloud
that sounds like a crappy clause
plush grail
im scared for alot of these players tho
alot of them might just not get resigned into owl
weak bolt
It's to stop teams like Dallas being stuck with 4 or 5 players they dont want/need
digital cloud
well, maybe we get more contenders in OWL then
plush grail
honestly just dumb how unkoe can go LFT for valoran while he's still collecting the OWL check
digital cloud
maybe it is for the best
weak bolt
If players dont get re-signed to OWL, it's because there are better alternatives out there
plush grail
yeah
im thinking alot of top contenders players make it in now
alot of new faces
and the unsigned owl players either retire or go to contenders
weak bolt
Contenders players are cheap, willing to do the grind to prove themselves, and possibly undiscovered talent
limber pine
!!owl2021
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weak bolt
"Season-long contracts are terminable by the team without cause, subject to payment of a buyout fee to be agreed upon by the player and their team."
Yep, that'll be why teams are offering new contracts, not extending
plush grail
"Season-long contracts are terminable by the team without cause, subject to payment of a buyout fee to be agreed upon by the player and their team."
@weak bolt the unkoe and akm clause lmao
raw ermine
They need to change that
normally I would want power for the players
but AKM and Unkoe are abusing that
weak bolt
That Has been changed
digital cloud
why doesn't the thread have Danteh?
weak bolt
That new rule is for S4
digital cloud
or is Meko officially out, but not Danteh
limber pine
Because I forgot to add him
raw ermine
S4 at least sorta tried
digital cloud
booo
limber pine
He’ll be added soon
plush grail
wait boombox left philly
weak bolt
I wonder how many players have the balls to go for a large buyout clause
raw ermine
place your bets on which team signs the first player
weak bolt
I don't see boombox on another team unless its a coaching role
weak bolt
Signings are open already
plush grail
london might also sign him as coach
digital cloud
historically, from what I remember, I think that Houston tends to do so rather quick
plush grail
im not looking forward to the nyxl roster changes at all
digital cloud
nyxl just has to cut it out quickly and get it done
weak bolt
A lot of teams it may depend on if they make coaching changes too. Might need time to get a coach in and established
plush grail
what if the titans just fuckin buy crusty
could titans become mid tier with crusty as a coach?
weak bolt
Why would shock let him go
digital cloud
he has led shock to two championships
plush grail
no but like what if
digital cloud
I think that literally makes him one of the best esports coaches of all time
weak bolt
Crusty could likely take a bottom team to mid tier. But I dont think much beyond that
digital cloud
he is a good coach, but he also has literal god players
balmy wolf
That he coached
digital cloud
we know that coaching is a big part of their success, but how much
plush grail
im wondering if the shock makes any player changes
some of them might get crazy offers from other teams
weak bolt
I'd expect shock to pick up a player or 2, maybe even have 1 or 2 move on
digital cloud
the could likely use another off tank
balmy wolf
I expect a coach signing soon
digital cloud
not sure they really need anything else
weak bolt
I could see Rascal moving on to a new team
plush grail
yeah Rascal has been benched kinda
if he gets a good offer and a starting position
the could likely use another off tank
@digital cloud a top tier off tank just went LFT 👀
digital cloud
who was that
plush grail
Meko
digital cloud
oh yeah
weak bolt
Is Meko still top tier though is the question
plush grail
oh yeah choi and meko have the exact same hero pool
honestly meko might be a lot worse
but he's shown he can be good
plush grail
I mean he was playing off tank
and his main tank was either hydration
or fucking muma
weak bolt
He also played on a very stacked nyxl team when he was good, it may be he was made to look better. But no real way of knowing
plush grail
nah im pretty sure he himself was skilled
with hotba mano has been kinda shaky
with meko they had better peel
digital cloud
yeah, he and Danteh both looked pretty good even on Houston
but you know, hard to say if it was top tier good
plush grail
nah on houston he looked meh
digital cloud
I mean, he wasn't looking like Choi or void, but the whole team he was on was garbage
there is only so good you can look
shrewd valley
anyone else figure out how imma earn that symmetra skin? I don't see any games up, and idk how imma manage to watch 15 hours lol
plush grail
he can't carry much from the off tank position if his main tank is mega feeding
weak bolt
You've got to watch contenders games
shrewd valley
yeah I figured, but I haven't seen any streams come up on twitch
digital cloud
on youtube
weak bolt
https://www.over.gg/ has the schedules of next games. Got to watch on Overwatchcontenders.com
next mesa
just not in the playoffs
digital cloud
to an extent
shrewd valley
@weak bolt ❤️
next mesa
more like ta1yo's hero pool overlap with rascal
digital cloud
but we don't know what Ta1yo is going to end up doing anyway
presumably he gets some coaching from Crusty and becomes the next striker/god gamer
tropic herald
weak bolt
I don't think they'll drop Rascal by choice, but if a team offers him a starting position, he may want to go for it and I dont think team would get in his way
weak bolt
Faustus going is interesting, I wonder if Dpei is gone too
plush grail
raw ermine
Dpi lol
weak bolt
No idea who dpi even is, look likes T2 or T3 scene
raw ermine
with Lucky Future
they dropped their entire roster and went to chinese contenders from korean
weak bolt
Looks like Lucky Future imploded yeah, so that must be that drama
earnest leaf
raw ermine
which is DPI's birthday
weak bolt
Paintbrush was no real surprise I guess. LAG ditched him, and now Fuel rebuilding
raw ermine
I guess that is him
earnest leaf
https://clips.twitch.tv/StormySilkyPancakePanicVis bit of an oof
vagrant jacinth
Ye I'd would've guessed paintbrush
earnest leaf
Honest question
What stops a player from dropping out of OWL and leaking a bunch of shit
like internal changes
NDA I assume?
next mesa
Yeah I mean
You can't participate in open trials when you're just under contract with another team
clear crane
dallas should have gave him permission, but not sure if he asked
weak bolt
Nothing stops them, but it'd probably stop youg etting signed to any team
Kinda scummy if Dallas said he couldn't go to open trials though knowing they were dropping him
clear crane
Depends on the NDA. Not sure its the same for esports, but in finance institutions there are some contracts where you basically are not allowed to go to a competitor for 6 months after and you cannot leak info about the company or face crazy lawsuits
raw ermine
OWL sorta has that
when Sinatraa retired
he couldn't join an NRG esports team
anywhere
I think
balmy wolf
No
He went to sentiels since nrg wasn't sure about Val yet
Only now has nrg started building a Val roster
earnest leaf
man some owl discussion channels in servers are wack
Got someone saying SBB is a better tracer than striker
hot heart
I wanna know their reasoning
tropic herald
I think that was debatable in S1 but in S3 it’s pretty evident who’s the best
hot heart
How is sbb in any way better than striker on tracer
earnest leaf
"They haven't played you can't compare them"
earnest leaf
🐢
tropic herald
I like to think it’s comedic timing
valid oxide
keen jetty
Hi Rheyne
valid oxide
Hi random person on the internet who's talking to me like they know me from somewhere?
hot heart
MonkaW
north pelican
Who even are you?
clear crane
I wonder if Dpei actually remains head coach...
Glads have had great rosters on paper
valid oxide
Who even are we all?
clear crane
and nothing to show for it
valid oxide
Dpei is def going out
raw ermine
So it begins
plush grail
ksaa might have gotten a offer from a diff team
raw ermine
Ksaa was second best player on van
karmic grotto
Maybe he got an offer
plush grail
Twitter
sullen berry
um
plush grail
LA valiant is also gonna start purging
sullen berry
if you're not purging, you aren't playing this right
raw ermine
Valiant haven't done anything yet
vagrant jacinth
Uh oh
hot heart
Who would valiant even purge tho
karmic grotto
He may got good offer
sullen berry
in the same way that you could drop haksal if you were vancouver
clear crane
Unless they know for a fact he won’t be able to get a visa to Vancouver or something
sullen berry
probably not that they can't
hot heart
Hmm
sullen berry
just wouldn't go the distance for him
hot heart
Isn't KSAA decent
sullen berry
or the stuff in place signing him at short notice wasn't worth taking chances over fresher talent
hot heart
Havent watched vancouver games for obvious reasons
sullen berry
Isn't haksal good at genji /s
true hound
Ksaa is quite good
vagrant jacinth
Ksaa is
clear crane
Yea he’s pretty good
sullen berry
He's one of my top prospects to follow coming into 2021
vagrant jacinth
Isn't haksal good at genji /s
Heard some people say but idk
sullen berry
but so was bumper in 2020 sadge
clear crane
MORE TEA
gaunt acorn
titans should sign haksal i heard he's good
plush grail
what about jhong, he's good
clear crane
Roolf prob didn’t get released cause he’s Canadian
Although if they want a Canadian flex support another one just became available
plush light
Why did chungdu release baconjack? Isn't leave a flex dps? Now they have no hitscan
sullen berry
specialist from TW
clear crane
They released the two TW players 
sullen berry
just expiration of his contract. Probably lost a lot of mileage in the team
clear crane
I wonder if there’s a deadline for option/extensions today
weak bolt
It's gonna be easier to have a list of who isn't LFT by the end of tonight
clear crane
Like 4pm PDT?
karmic grotto
They have enough money
sullen berry
something I have thought about really with the uneven split of 15 NA and 5 APAC to start next year
clear crane
So in 10 mins
sullen berry
how many orgs are going to successfully attract Korean Talent?
karmic grotto
weak bolt
Any with $$$
sullen berry
most of these new players have to get over the western culture clash, if they had no money it's no obstacle
but if it's to travel to big COVID country, how many more would still make the jump?
weak bolt
Earn fuck all in contenders, or join an OWL team and earn $50k+. I think most would jump
sullen berry
probable we get more cases like the entire vancouver titans, Fielder and such
playing remote for a team
clear crane
Players don’t even know location yet for teams
Teams can def put it in contracts that they need to travel if safety allowed
sullen berry
New Jersey Eternal probably not going to happen
just a one-off this year since their ping would have been disastrous during homestand movements
clear crane
And as error said, it’s either guaranteed 50k or spare change in contenders
hot heart
I mean
weak bolt
Contenders players grind to make OWL too, very few are going to turn down any offers
clear crane
Done what
weak bolt
Every game in korea = no NA viewership. They wont do that
weak bolt
OW fans already went mad at the fact they had to wake up early for grand finals, imagine if every game was like that
weak bolt
Depends if he'd get a Visa I suspect
Nobody is going ot want 200 ping players if can avoid it
clear crane
Def the biggest hurdle
weak bolt
I think I'm most sad about Note being LFT again. He's been pretty good this year
vagrant jacinth
Note has
plush light
He played a coaching role in their playoffs run
upper niche
OGE gone from Glads, KSAA gone VAN along from half the team, from GZC have dropped half their roster...
upper niche
Neptuno? 😄
upper niche
exactly 😄
plush light
He could go to Vancouver
upper niche
Crystal and Wya gone today, Neptuna and Chara yesterday.
plush light
With the exception of chara, those were all two ways and bench boys
weak bolt
Neptuno played a lot of early season
upper niche
The whole Two-Way player/30 day contract makes OWL a bit of a joke :/
weak bolt
Unfortunately his visa fucked him honestly
upper niche
Yeah, Neptuno spent more time flying home for a Visa than playing.
Same as anyone who has to base themselves out of Korea really.
clear crane
I can see Neptuno on London
upper niche
Unless they were from a select number of countries, trying to play from Korea is just... yeah no.
weak bolt
Neptuno Boombox reuinited on London
Throw in Kyb, Chipsa, and you've almost got an ex-philly team
upper niche
Has Chipsa been released?
clear crane
Get Fragi out of retirement
weak bolt
Nothing yet, but who knows if Philly want a streamer for S4
upper niche
No thanks. I still blame Fragi for that loss to NYXL in the stage finals 😄
weak bolt
No announcements so far from; Toronto, LAV, Boston, Spark, NYXL, Paris, Philly, Seoul, SHD and Justice.
Tonight could still be juicy
digital cloud
I see that he has business sense
cobalt spoke
Can we get a weirdchamp or weirdga for titans org? https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/jc17r6/summary_of_a_french_interview_with_tsuna_and/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
So odd
clear crane
FRD LFT
hallow sparrow
weak bolt
Think you'd have to google that one, Path to Pro isn't widely known and changes often
clear crane
Officially F5 season
im surprised no dcinside leak yet
or its still too young for that
weak bolt
Not much to leak really I suppose. People wont be signed yet, just released/FA
Twitter
hot heart
juice huh?
weak bolt
To be fair, he doesn't sya his juice
hot heart
No one can be like him
weak bolt
He could be discussing everyone else
clear crane
😮
weak bolt
It does say they'll grow into their new homes, so maybe they've already found somewhere
plush light
Mcgravy got an offer?
worn falcon
Halsey wasnt enough to keep McGravey in Valiant 💔
weak bolt
lol Sideshow "Are they picking up KSAA? To have KSP, KSF and KSAA"
clear crane
that is a very good question
weak bolt
Sponsored by KFC
plush light
LMAO
Did you know that ATL is sponsored by McDonald's. Its gotta be because of dafran
weak bolt
I'm thinking Titans picking up Mcgravy personally
raw ermine
gravy bruhhh
clear crane
I can see McGravy not picked up in general
valid oxide
Why wouldn't he pick Outlaws?
plush light
Who's lukemino
raw ermine
a flex supp in contenders
plush light
Oh
clear crane
irrelevance
weak bolt
Both are clearing house and rebuilding, both needed it really
weak bolt
Nah, both teams had 1 or 2 Good players, and the rest average
plush light
I think that doha should go to Justice with jecse
weak bolt
both released
hot heart
Now there are good OT on the market
silk frost
houston could get either
weak bolt
Mcgravy was ok, but not exceptional. LAV maybe have faith in someone else
plush light
McGravy has average play but is a good teammate, like Mickie and bishu
silk frost
maybe they get space back..?
hot heart
When is the signing window open?
weak bolt
Signing window is already open
vagrant jacinth
Gig and McGravy? Woah
hot heart
This week is gonna be something
solar bison
Offseason starting off crazy
silk frost
Birdring is their best player except maybe space tho
weak bolt
Tonight/tomorrow is the big days. After that it's gonna go dead silent
plush light
Gig was on the bench because dreamers really good
clear crane
i think today and tmr is the days for drops
plush light
They might want a Korean off tank to play with dreamer
clear crane
after that will be the signings
weak bolt
Signings will likely take a while. Negotiations and such will be time consuming
solar bison
True
plush light
Shock released another coach
hot heart
Im just thinking of what justice are gonna do
solar bison
Why’d they keep AKM
clear crane
i dont think shock is releasing coaches on their own lol
more like the coaches want better opportunities
solar bison
Maybe
vagrant jacinth
Signing news is gonna be hype as fuck
clear crane
I just really wanna know where MAG and Muze go asap
worn falcon
Akm is lft in valorant
@plush light They havent released him, but yeah, he is next
hot heart
Mag and MuZe to Justice
worn falcon
imagine keeping AKM benched
hot heart
Imagine
weak bolt
AKM is gone 100%
clear crane
i think akm unkoe and trill's contract just ran out
and dallas is not bothering to say anything cause they dont give af about them anymore
weak bolt
yeah Dallas is gonna let them just slip out the back door and hope nobody questions why it took so long
Looks like Packing10 and LAV chose to cut those 3 for sure then
clear crane
time to pick up some 50k OT
limber pine
!!owl2021
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stuck radish
weak bolt
They kinda needed to drop everyone but Doha lol
hot heart
Doha and onigod
tawdry hamlet
So is off season always just a massive flurry of releases and changes or is this year different
hot heart
Those were the two i was excited for
limber pine
seems like they'll likely keep closer and gamsu too
raw ermine
oni is gone
limber pine
if rumors are tru
weak bolt
Dallas always pays big money, I think they'd find a replacement for Onigod
clear crane
who got this "super secret discord"
weak bolt
I could see Gamsu/Closer kept but as backups maybe
balmy wolf
dallas is probs going full KR
hot heart
Hopefully
clear crane
No
tawdry hamlet
Excited to see if Paintbrush goes anywhere
hot heart
Tbh
weak bolt
Both players removed all Paris branding from their socials
clear crane
As a Paris fan I refuse to entertain that
hot heart
Dallas did that with decay
weak bolt
and maybe they want a full Korean team
limber pine
good for them
hot heart
Unthinkable amounts of money
So if i we're xzi and hanbin
Id do it for the bag
And because i get to play with doha
tawdry hamlet
Carcar release is the only hugely expected release for me since he is kind of bad in league
raw ermine
go figure trill
limber pine
I will give a pass to all of Vancouver this season
clear crane
Twitter
weak bolt
Dallas clearing house
tawdry hamlet
Has boston cleaned house yet or they keeping things similar other than coach change i think I saw
Can't believe they dumped mcgravy
weak bolt
Nothing posted from Boston yet other than a new coach I think it was
balmy wolf
they dropped mikeyy
weak bolt
I suspect he's being traded and has probably had people after him
tawdry hamlet
Yeah
Forgot halo existed high-key
Aren't there a few middle eastern owl players like saudi or something?
weak bolt
Ksaa was saudi, Eqo was from Israel
weak bolt
EM has had some scary rosters
balmy wolf
they choked tho
hot heart
I dont think so
true hound
Yznsa
limber pine
KssarPlayz is decent
balmy wolf
the pharah 1 trick?
balmy wolf
did he legit 1 trick pharah in contenders?
hot heart
I feel like they need to be planning something out
balmy wolf
if london is going EU then oh man
hot heart
Ta1yo the bench god will come out and fuck
balmy wolf
its gonna be great
weak bolt
London is going EU yeah
tawdry hamlet
Bench God!
balmy wolf
their academy team is crazy good
clear crane
Chipsa + 5 role players
hot heart
Shockwave Kevster
weak bolt
Biggest issue for EU team is main tank I think
hot heart
Ye
balmy wolf
onigod to london
weak bolt
Benbest, Poko, Shockwave, Kevster, Linkzr, Onigod, Astro, Shaz
weak bolt
Flex Support may be a struggle too for EU too
weak bolt
Mainsupport is stacked EU though. Biggoose, Astro, FDGod, Maasa, Kruise
vagrant jacinth
I think they might bring up the hurricane roster though
weak bolt
Oh, add Logix to that EU roster too
weak bolt
I think they said they weren't bringing all of BH up, and wanted to maintain that team nuturing talent
vagrant jacinth
Yeah, they want to develop talent
clear crane
dont think that team has much to prove left in EU contenders
weak bolt
They could bring them on for 30 day contracts with the new 2021 rules
vagrant jacinth
Would be hot
weak bolt
I expect London to pick up a few popular EU players, and add in some BH players over time
hot heart
Hmm
weak bolt
Doubt you need big bucks to pick up talent like Linkzr, Biggoose, Shaz etc. They're all LFT
clear crane
need more teaaaaa
hot heart
What if they go for a mix of BH and former team doge
clear crane
thats wat i was thinking
hot heart
That could ve good
clear crane
similar to london S1 of KDP/GCB
hot heart
Yeah
weak bolt
Those EU players are already in US as well so Visas are sorted
hot heart
Kevster is huge if he were to sign with london tbh
plush light
They should pick up linkzr
limber pine
biggoose retired
hot heart
Nah
hot heart
I dont think linkzr really has a place on a squad like this
If their going the contenders route
weak bolt
Kevster isn't leaving LAG
hot heart
Probably not
weak bolt
other teams would pay big if he was available
hot heart
But im just dreaming
limber pine
Twitter
hot heart
?
limber pine
maybe he'll coach
hot heart
Maybe
silk frost
or manage?
balmy wolf
probs something not OW
silk frost
like Val?
vagrant jacinth
If Dallas are actually going full korean...oh dear
balmy wolf
did hanbin clear his twitter bio?
clear crane
Fire is a free agent
valid oxide
Twitter
hot heart
did hanbin clear his twitter bio?
@balmy wolf yes
Wait
Hmm
I just checked
Its there
hot heart
Xzi still has nothing in his bio
sullen berry
That try out post is due in 3 days
and some of the lowest requirements I've seen imo
hot heart
Xzi fr gonna bail
weak bolt
4600 peak over 3 seasons? I've seen some teams asking 4.3k peak lol
clear crane
xzi has his pic as the eternal icon
next mesa
Full korean is the way dude
clear crane
i cannot see them leaving Rush lol
next mesa
4.6k seems reasonable tbh
clear crane
also i think in FDGod's interview, he said the players who were signed to Paris this past season had 1+1 contracts
while the ones from previous (Soon,BenBest,Nico) were expiring
hot heart
I thino paris should keep everyone
Maybe drop nosmite if there's a more flexible MT out there
clear crane
Muze
and den call it an offseason
heard they might look for a backup flex supp too
weak bolt
Another support who can play Mercy/Brig would do Paris good, and I'm not 100% convinced on their dps line
silk frost
what if Paris gets themselves Byrem
hot heart
Why though
weak bolt
lol at Apply's stream title "i got cut im broke now pls ggive me money"
clear crane
meh pretty much got paid over 100k to sit on the bench for both mayhem and valiant
tawdry hamlet
What if paris actually does good with all the talent they have
Sadge!
I require more from my waifu sparkle and my other waifu soon
And Xzi 
hot heart
I dont think soon is gonna be on paris for long now
Who could replace xzi
He was a key member of the squad last year
forest raven
Why tf did gravy get dropped
karmic grotto
Saving costs you know
Aso yourself, are these salaries worth? Someone commented that the players might be over valued
Paying high salary when the prize money isn't that high
charred urchin
can i get a Mcgravy with that order them no were only serving Koreans today
sorry
lol
hidden vault
contenders today? yes no?
karmic grotto
Yes but CN
hidden vault
so we could still get drops right?
plucky viper
Can we get the contenders skins from the currently live Contenders China game?
gaunt acorn
@plucky viper no, only games streamed on the contenders website are eligible
See here for a full list of games eligible for skins:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/overwatch-streaming-rewards-guide-earn-contenders-skins/557669/2
torn abyss
@gaunt acorn Thanks for that list! I was trying to a schedule like that but couldn’t find anything
gaunt acorn
my pleasure
shy remnant
wait did dallas drop thier whole lineup
hot heart
Only players left are gamsu doha and aKm
Akm is retired at this point
So
Realistically only Gamsu and Doha left @shy remnant
velvet hawk
Akm will return with the soldier buffs and then genji will be buffed again and we will see the legendary AKM Blade
tawdry hamlet
is diya ever going to play in a league game again
I wonder
also didn't realize baconjack totally retired
I thought he was just a free agent
I know diya is two way
but I wonder when he is going to play again
hot heart
Has diya talked about SHD and thw way he interacts with them?
hidden vault
dallas does need massive rebuilding
keen jetty
Akm will return with the soldier buffs and then genji will be buffed again and we will see the legendary AKM Blade
@velvet hawk
I don't believe AKM will return since he has been very desperate on getting on a team in VALORANT. He's been looking together with Unkoe ever since the beta
tawdry hamlet
Twitter
im ngl half of these players that are getting released I forget are even on teams still
I forgot NiCogdh existed too loll
clear crane
Jehong is LFT
raw ermine
Yes jehong please return bro
earnest leaf
Twitter
earnest leaf
Next year is gonna be so weird
Majority of teams are probably gonna partial or fully rebuild
silk frost
Not majority
Houston, Dallas, Glads, London so far
Nothing crazy
S2 had Shanghai, Boston, Toronto halfway through, and Florida, while S3 had Paris, kinda Houston, London, Seoulish, Glads, Valiant, and Vancouver halfway through
raw ermine
Damn blizzard better improve contenders drastically or the retirements are gonna pile up
earnest leaf
remember it's been only like less than a week
plenty of time for teams to drop people
raw ermine
That's a start
karmic grotto
from the chat, seems that people enjoy KR matches
plush grail
holy shit so many FA
next mesa
JEHONG JEHONG JEHONG RYUJEHONGSEXY
weak bolt
Latest conspiracy theory going round is a lot of teams have mass released people because Orgs collectively believe current salaries are too high, and looking to reduce them
next mesa
Dude
We missed jehong in probably the only genji meta we'll ever have
He could've dunked on Eileen and haksal holy shit
raw ermine
Imagine jehong twilight
karmic grotto
@weak bolt I wouldn't even say it's wrong. It makes sense
weak bolt
I truly do think Jehong would taint his legacy if he came back now. If he comes back and isn't as amazing as he used to be in comparison to other FS players
karmic grotto
OWL prize money doesn't justify the high salary
brittle mantle
karmic grotto
Especially when this time it's more difficult to sell merch
weak bolt
Yeah it makes sense, especially with the salaries I bet a lot of the experienced players were on
karmic grotto
Like, I know for sure Space had a 200k salary
But does it really justify?
And other players had basically a salary cap
weak bolt
I'd bet Linkzr was like 100k to extend his current contract
karmic grotto
Profit + Gesture was like 1 million? (to acquire)
weak bolt
Or you release him and it's maybe 60 or 70k now
next mesa
Jehong don't got nothing left to prove, thats like saying jordan coming back to wizards in 2003 somehow tainted his whole legacy
vagrant jacinth
Ryujehong 
next mesa
yo that was like an a tier analogy
next mesa
OoO
plush light
What did he say?
weak bolt
Sounds like Nero is on a 2019 contract then and they have another month to extend him
clear crane
Nero should bring in some money for GZ
weak bolt
plush light
I agree seagull
raw ermine
the association should also make sure players are on teams for good reasons
IE no chipsa's and no Unkoe/AKM/trill/sayaplayer situations
karmic grotto
who tf is seagull, the tracer hater?
next mesa
yes
primal minnow
can’t teams sign streamers as content creators though?
karmic grotto
yes
they already do that
But for a team, they can choose whoever they want to sign
weak bolt
next mesa
Roolf?
weak bolt
No Shockwave
raw ermine
this is real btw
weak bolt
Nice to know not all the players have been ditched though honestly
Half expected them all gone at end of seson
raw ermine
They were all pretty average
but I am happy for SOME canadians to be in the league
well I guess in OWL low-average
weak bolt
At least 1/3rd of the team was always on high ping, and very little time to synergise. Go to feel for them a bit
and by end of season, they were arguably better than Boston/Toronto
weak bolt
I'm more surprised they kept Shredlock, he looked very feedy
shy remnant
has there been any news about shockwave?
raw ermine
they haven't said if he is being extended
Liquipedia assumes this means he isn't on van
he hasn't posted LFT
which leads me to believe a team gave him a contract already which he signed
shy remnant
yeah probably
vagrant jacinth
Yeah idk, feel like they would've announced him too?
karmic grotto
LOL
raw ermine
?
raw ermine
yeah yeah
clear crane
Same with Shredlock
tough wharf
local bois
clear crane
But at least Shredlock should be serviceable with a solid team
raw ermine
We got agilities (maybe) and crimzo (maybe) and note (maybe) and s4(prolly not)
damn
we suck
clear crane
Need the greatest Canadian of them all