esports-discussion

[indigo estuary]

^ this

[spark terrace]

Legitimately less game sense than a 2026 Platinum Genji in these clips

[cosmic socket]

He was like the first person to be good at genji

[indigo estuary]

Yes

Then came haksal

And whoru

Oh yeah haksal is also the brig all time OWL kill leader @spark terrace

Don’t ask

the classic genji / zar / brig hero pool

[spark terrace]

Imma be honest

Maybe a stance of privilege

Not really impressed with OWL gameplay

[indigo estuary]

yeah. I don’t blame

Cleanse ur eyes by watching s6 atl reign

Best team ever

Choked in playoffs tho

[spark terrace]

Choking

Is Hawk on the team?

[indigo estuary]

…

Yes

[spark terrace]

Holy shit

[indigo estuary]

LOLLLL

He was the Atlanta reign

[spark terrace]

Might be the Potential man to end all Potential man

[indigo estuary]

u don’t know about mag yet

or flow3r

[spark terrace]

Mmm

Watching Hawk engage with doom into bald man Hadi

[indigo estuary]

Mag was supposed to be like Smurf 2.0 then just didn’t play well on like 5 amazing rosters then quit

[spark terrace]

Funny knowing that they’ll play for the same org in the future

[indigo estuary]

Are u watching the hawk despair

[glass sleet]

And KSAA is?

[indigo estuary]

In esports terms yes

[spark terrace]

Spitfire vs atl reign playoff

2023

[indigo estuary]

When they benched the dong

I see

[glass sleet]

I guess you right in those terms.

[indigo estuary]

Good match

[spark terrace]

Why did they bench my dong

[glass sleet]

The best tank to ever do it is danteh.

[indigo estuary]

truth nuke

Sombra one trick turned doom one trick

Who played monkey sometimes

[glass sleet]

That spells out “goat” imo.

[indigo estuary]

TRUE

[spark terrace]

Best tank is Christfer

Argue with a wall

[indigo estuary]

His primals look like mine

And that’s not a good thing

He is unfortunately white and plays Winston

Never good

[spark terrace]

How are you playing like you’re steering a pirate ship on PC

[spark terrace]

Infekted need a DNA test

[indigo estuary]

he plays with his feet as soon as he hits q

[spark terrace]

Tl please

[indigo estuary]

he got some Korean in him

That’s an import slot

[spark terrace]

Lmao

My region losing one guy caused a whole landslide to happen

Toast fucked up not signing the Lunex roster ngl

[indigo estuary]

it was pk and yehhh beef that led to them not signing lunex core

[spark terrace]

Wait whats the tea

[indigo estuary]

It was supposed to be pk/zeb/pge/xomba/xten/lep/nenwhy/zzz

But pk said yehhh refused to bench pge or lep

So zeb xten and nenwhy would be perma benched with no teams left to play for

so they refused

And he had to sign the current dsg roster

At least that’s what pk said

[spark terrace]

8 players

Thats an OWL roster almost

[indigo estuary]

^

They would’ve been signed and left with no team to go to

Like just roster locking them for half the year

it’s fucked

[spark terrace]

Does Yehhh have street cred?

[indigo estuary]

He was gm of owl s6 champs and is current gm of team USA

So yes

[spark terrace]

Yehhh not wanting to play the trans players. His cred is winning with Rupal on Mayhem

Rupal…being Rupal

[indigo estuary]

Don’t forget someone

The first hyper flex tank

[spark terrace]

My detective skills sense a motive that isnt gameplay related

[indigo estuary]

He said that shit to his teammate too

Like why did

Why is it even in ur vocab

[spark terrace]

Bro

He could hear me shit talk him probably

[indigo estuary]

Albert.

[spark terrace]

I watched a plat chat interview with him before he ulted his career

[indigo estuary]

He’s a cool dude on stream

[spark terrace]

The mf would not stop interrupting the female guest

[indigo estuary]

Mimi ?

Wait no she’s Val

[spark terrace]

Most liked comment, I wasnt the only one to notice

I liked Rupal at the start of my OWCS experience cause american champion you know

But as time progress I feel like he’s more of a dick

Then again, young guy. Socially stunned idiot

[indigo estuary]

Yeah..

[indigo estuary]

Exactly

The Vega episode omg

[spark terrace]

I hope Rupal’s future career doesnt involve communication at all

[indigo estuary]

I just hope the dude learns from it

Just stop saying it

It’s not hard

Just don’t say it

[spark terrace]

Funny thing is, impossible to put this on your resume

“Rupal Overwatch” on twitter is ruined

[indigo estuary]

Yeah exactly

[spark terrace]

Calls to him like the green goblin mask

[indigo estuary]

LOL

[glass sleet]

Apparently you can buy a Quartz mousepad…

[indigo estuary]

The one he wipes water on ???

[glass sleet]

I mean…one he made.

[indigo estuary]

Ohhh

I thought u meant used

[glass sleet]

Nah

[cosmic socket]

Link

[glass sleet]

Idk the link. Just heard he has mousepad’s somewhere

[autumn vault]

i think quartz uses yznsas mousepad

[glass sleet]

Wth. I want a Quartz mousepad not that guy.

[autumn vault]

wait i was wrong he dont use yznsas mousepad anymore. he uses g-sr II

[glass sleet]

Dude! The one he designed.

[split flume]

rupal was the oldest player on liquid btw

[spark terrace]

No way

[split flume]

well

coluge is older

but he dont count

infekted and tr33 are currently 18, vega and zeruhh are currently 19

rupal is 23

[indigo estuary]

how did I not known he was unc

thought he was 21

[sullen berry]

OWCS Pacific in a nutshell

[indigo estuary]

Whoever has the best kr imports win

[sullen berry]

it's UYOU & YUI vs zero imports ☠️

closest to knockoff team thailand vs rejected team australia players

[indigo estuary]

UYOU is the ball with like 200 sens right

[sullen berry]

and he's still playing on ping

[indigo estuary]

I knew pkfishy sounded familiar

[indigo estuary]

His mouse moves a millimeter and he’s on another character lol

[sullen berry]

ball on high ping fills me with dread

[indigo estuary]

Kellan did a solid job

[sullen berry]

only possible since korea to SG Servers where many of these games have to be played is still doable

[indigo estuary]

Mag not so much

[indigo estuary]

Yea b exactly m

[indigo estuary]

Nvm wasn’t mag in Saudi for geng

[sullen berry]

FURY's rebuild is just not good

props for keeping a core

but it's gotta go

[indigo estuary]

I don’t watch enough pacific

[sullen berry]

stronghold last season inflated their performance

[indigo estuary]

Its entertaining

[sullen berry]

that was then, this is now

this is a region that should have 4 very competitive teams

[indigo estuary]

YUI IS 26???

[sullen berry]

uh huh, probably the goat in the region ig

[indigo estuary]

Bro why did I think he was up and comer

[sullen berry]

because he was playing on below average teams back in contenders '23

no name to all of us

[indigo estuary]

Is nyang still just thanos in the region

[indigo estuary]

I see

[indigo estuary]

I was watching redbird vs tm this morning

^

[sullen berry]

not since nosebleed esports beat them (same team secret roster)

I might be addicted to english costreams for pacific

[glass sleet]

Damn uncs.

[split flume]

lol

[mortal cipher]

lol

[wise orbit]

LoL

[terse canyon]

lol

[mortal cipher]

Lel

[grave python]

Lmao

[terse canyon]

kek

[mortal cipher]

Lmbao

[teal hare]

Lmfao

[mortal cipher]

Lmpao

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/teamaustriaow/status/2044872261769842787?s=46

Team Austria 🇦🇹 (@TeamAustriaOW)

The climb to the top is long, but the view is worth it 🏔️🦅

Presenting the warriors representing Team Austria for the #OWWC2026:

🛡️ @tama_ow
⚔️ @mariahcareyow
⚔️ @seicoeOW
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Watch us reach the peak 🇦🇹✨

#AUTPLAYED

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X · Apr 16, 2026, 8:15 PM

[indigo estuary]

not bad team tbh

[cosmic socket]

No yeah

Tama seicoe zydra frontlines super solid

Idk the supports tho

[indigo estuary]

lvl1crook is a ladder player who unfortunately does ur2gm

not sure who the other two are

[wise orbit]

this team is ass besides seicoe

[cosmic socket]

tamas not bad for european winston players

and zydra carried that stage 2 quick team that took maps off vp and tm

[wise orbit]

never trust a white man on winston

[cosmic socket]

actually tama mightve been on that stage 2 quick team too

i dont remember

no he was on vision last year

[wise orbit]

also hes not allat like i dont think his winston is anything special

and thats his best. hero supposedly

[cosmic socket]

i mean for eu winston its not bad

[wise orbit]

yea but its world cup

[cosmic socket]

he looked shit this stage tho

[wise orbit]

yea

hes forcing winston but hes not good enough to pull it off in this meta no flame

[cosmic socket]

idk its hard for these european teams to have all tier 1 players

[wise orbit]

especially not in eu

[cosmic socket]

gotta work with what you got

[wise orbit]

yea i mean austria doesnt look that bad i think compared to other eu countries

but the backline is garbage

[indigo estuary]

Truke

[indigo estuary]

god he was awful

but he also had Kai so

Only so much u can do

[wise orbit]

i lowk dont see a world where its not korea or saudi winning this year

na is ass china is washed

[indigo estuary]

Idk who they play in supp tho

Sirmajed looks… not amazing

[cosmic socket]

haku majed

https://klipy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-50

[wise orbit]

or zox

[indigo estuary]

yes

[indigo estuary]

Lbbd7 bap again

Run it back

[wise orbit]

nah its fine

majed is good chill on him

[cosmic socket]

idk

[wise orbit]

and haku will lvl up this year

[indigo estuary]

He’s just looked poor this year

[wise orbit]

my prediction

[indigo estuary]

I’m hopeful for him

[cosmic socket]

i think ppl are overrating ksa this year

that backline is so shit

[wise orbit]

is it rly tho

[indigo estuary]

They have the 2 best players in the world rn

in terms of form

And also it’s not like the best kr players are playing

Shu’s not there, propers suspended, hanbin isn’t playing, violets out

not that violet would play but still

[wise orbit]

majed haku is not that bad i swear

and haku will lvl up as well this year trust

[cosmic socket]

surely

[wise orbit]

ppl always hate on these saudi bluds and then they js become demons

[cosmic socket]

yk what fair

[indigo estuary]

I hope so bc my ziyad stocks are in shambles rn

[cosmic socket]

these saudis just randomly level up

[indigo estuary]

dude like quartz was benched in s6 pro am

For youbi tracer

Now he’s the best in the world

it’s so crazy

[cosmic socket]

before 2025 everyone thought of lbbd as a pharah otp

and everyone thought tvnt had no hands

[indigo estuary]

exactly then he was 2nd best dps

[indigo estuary]

He didn’t

Like he was Arse before 2025

Like mid 2025 he just figured it out

And became thanos

[cosmic socket]

ye

he got injected with the hanbin cells

[indigo estuary]

tvnt just zapped his skill

the switch but ow terms

[cosmic socket]

also he was benched for ksaa for like all of stage 1 and 2

[indigo estuary]

I’m mostly trolling hanbin is still great

[indigo estuary]

ksaa was the more experienced tank at the time

which some teams value

[cosmic socket]

im still never gonna understand why tm still have both ksaa and tvnt

[indigo estuary]

for igl stuff

[wise orbit]

saudis r the real improvers

[indigo estuary]

literally

Watch escanor go back to dps and just become the best in the game

I wouldn’t be surprised

[wise orbit]

hogging the talent

[indigo estuary]

They have 2 top dva players

Just greed

[indigo estuary]

I love this ss

[glass sleet]

Tm wanted another tank along with tvnt and they wanted KSAA or someone.

[cosmic socket]

they have the exact same hero pool

its just a waste of a salary and scrim time

[glass sleet]

KSAA is their ram zarya mauga guy.

[glass sleet]

KSAA been teaching tvnt how to play zarya and you could notice how he’s gotten better at her.

Ugh. I hate being sick. I’ve been sick for a week now.

[indigo estuary]

Feel better tobi

❤️

[glass sleet]

Thank you. 🤧

[cosmic socket]

i feel like tvnt isnt significantly worse on those heroes tho

[glass sleet]

Yeah cuz KSAA is coaching him.

[sullen berry]

If i makes you feel any better this weekend is the ultimate toilet bowl match for korea

[indigo estuary]

I’m so excited for this

[terse canyon]

literally a fight for last im crying

[indigo estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/wrestlemania28-john-cena-rock-cena-rock-cena-rock-wrestlemania-gif-27519679

Once in a lifetime

[terse canyon]

trash vs garbage 😭

[indigo estuary]

D0D0 doesn’t deserve this

[terse canyon]

idek who tf this is

😭

is there gonna be a watch party for this toilet bowl event id be so down

[indigo estuary]

I’m a D0D0 believer

[indigo estuary]

Ur best bet is with Avrl or Avast

[terse canyon]

doodoo to you too

[indigo estuary]

LOL

[cosmic socket]

https://klipy.com/gifs/naruto-pain-22

[sullen berry]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-kids-rahul-gangwal-fail-fight-gif-17302099

100% this tomorrow

ZETA vs cheeseburger on Sat is basically a public scrim before the title fight vs New Era

[unreal sonnet]

cr vs zeta

winnable for t1?

[sullen berry]

You would have to get zeta on a bad day

Like fire noodles bad

[humble token]

Eh tvnt plays that better

Ksaa might be coach or something

Feels like would be better to have a good winston ball player instead

[unreal sonnet]

1-1 so far

proper quiet

viol2t is ulting like bronze 2

[pure bramble]

Dong Dva?

[grave python]

Yea

Korea is the most interesting region they always play different compos while EMEA is full of fucking Zarya

Boring ass character who deserves nothing but be deleted

[rocky plaza]

potential top 3 fighting for the top 2 for representing korea in champions clash in tokyo: zeta, t1, and falcons

t1 looking finally so strong

is it cuz donghak woke up?

[sullen berry]

Shallow day for proper losing the spotlight to knife

But i digress, he's that good on Emre

[unreal sonnet]

arent they like

unbeaten in blizzard world

actually dominated almost any team in that map

[sullen berry]

Interesting how long viol2t held that zoning ult

[rocky plaza]

lmfao even with ana ban zeta still wins 😉

[sullen berry]

T1 had a good ban, they really tried to slow shu down without screwing skewed over

[rocky plaza]

they did, BUT zeta still shows flexibility

[sullen berry]

The results though

[rocky plaza]

3-1 aint bad for zeta

[sullen berry]

Honestly expected 3-1 too

[rocky plaza]

they only lost to flashpoint

top 2: ZETA (100%), either falcons or t1 for the last spot

[unreal sonnet]

zeta lowk sucks at flashpoint

[sullen berry]

Not exactly a bad performance, they just don't feel well-rounded enough to be in top 2 contention yet

[rocky plaza]

yea but its only one map they lost

[sullen berry]

It's also not control

[unreal sonnet]

i feel like zeta is bad in these maps

[rocky plaza]

yep

[sullen berry]

So one map type they're good at doesn't make up for some confidence issues from the top down

[rocky plaza]

well with anran buffs and maybe sierra coming in for champs clash we will see

echo CAN have some play in champs clash since she can NOW copy ally heroes in her base kit

[sullen berry]

I am curious if any and all sierra has been softbanned between teams

Since Antartic Peninsula is not even in the map pool

[rocky plaza]

is it confirmed for champs clash?

[sullen berry]

Should we expect a map pool refresh just for CC?

Probably not

Its so wonky to play now, and gives teams more time to practice during the break

[rocky plaza]

its funny how korea, china, and asia does their qualifications for international lan later than their usual schedule

usually they qualify first before na/emea

is it because of hype? LMFAO

[sullen berry]

Pacific had to delay their start by week, which i'm sure that and the bye week in korea has made that intentional

[rocky plaza]

got it

[sullen berry]

Lowkey, maybe

[rocky plaza]

building up the suspension of which of the better teams go in lan

[sullen berry]

Hype for asia teams who still feel like the best in the world despite TM doing well at bootcamp

[rocky plaza]

i think its scripted

[sullen berry]

Plus, i don't mind the Asia Championships format

[rocky plaza]

i think owcs WANTED to make it like it

bc of it

[sullen berry]

The comms and announcement notice is a little bit shit

There is a hypothetical scenario where either japan or pacific qualifies for the main event happening on LAN in Korea

To design the asia championship format where they theoretically have <24 Hrs to fly to korea for finals is a certain level of frick you by WDG

Because they are almost certain it will be occupied by 4 korean teams that qualify

VS 3 teams from Japan and 1 in Pacific for the event

[static pond]

Who playing??

[sullen berry]

CR vs Cheeseburger

https://tenor.com/view/hydrogen-bomb-vs-baby-gif-16389939655051520745

[static pond]

Sleep can wait

[sullen berry]

You just missed a good one in T1 vs ZETA

[static pond]

Was it close?

[sullen berry]

Marginally improved T1, ZETA still comes out on top

[static pond]

12mina

Mins

WTF

[sullen berry]

Yeah they finished a lot earlier

Imagine if that Onside gaming match vs poker face actually did something

We might have been behind schedule instead

[static pond]

Guess I watch wuthering waves live stream as I wait

[sullen berry]

HBD Viol2t?
https://x.com/i/status/2045097813898399953

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports)

Going 7-0 on the 17th with 79 Elims for Proper at 7 AM ET? Not a bad way to celebrate Viol2t's birthday, @zetadivision 🎂

X · Apr 17, 2026, 11:11 AM

Also idk how much you guys are interested in the pro players in Twitch Rivals

[torn portal]

https://youtu.be/ftBnPGhwbsc english subtitled comms video of zeta

[sullen berry]

How could this team even make it through Open Qualifiers if this is their best backup tank to sola 😳

We're about to witness the great feeding vs junbin ram

[static pond]

Tired watching it to much happens

Can’t even tell what going on lol

[static pond]

You think the new hero good?

She feel weak in term of damage

It nice to see crazy raccoon getting creative with there comps

[sullen berry]

She literally has a brief aimbot skill shot, i'd hope they exclusively use her more outside of pro play tbh

Because she fills a gap in dps for console players

[static pond]

Her gun switches take more bullet to kill

Her aim feels weird tbh

[sullen berry]

For pro play,? Nah that damage is not that high and the skill ceiling i'd have to watch more owcs games to see if her movement and ult are a good tradeoff for weaker dps

She should be a modest upgrade to tracer for flex damage

Without reaper's right click

[static pond]

Vend also got nerf

[sullen berry]

He may as well be out of the meta for another season

[sullen berry]

I'm really glad to see the vendetta experiment went well in the past few months

Kinda came off as a strange dps hero to see used well in pro play

[static pond]

Think this too tracer feels bit weak still imo I think she needs a lil more damage buff

I would like to see more genji buffs tho

[sullen berry]

But those swings hit hard and punish bad positioning so well

[sullen berry]

Give genji a grenade

Seems like a lot of new heroes have some form of projectile throwable anyways

[static pond]

Was hella tanky and damage was high

[static pond]

I notice this too

What you think of muziki

Whatever his name is

[terse canyon]

tracer pulse is basically a semtex

bastion has a nade too, soldier just fires his from his gun

[sullen berry]

Great, something about his healing output and for brawl comps specifically is really good with brig on paper

[glass sleet]

I don’t understand these OWWC scrims. Why is crispy playing instead of fastro for GB?

Is funnyastro not playing for GB?

[vagrant jacinth]

I swear my notifs are fucked, anyway hard agree. And they'd be valid in complaining

[unreal sonnet]

hmm

do we think ana brig can come back

since both got buffed this update?

lwk zeta might have chance if ana brig is meta again

instead of lucio kiri

they have ana herself and brig/illiari main in their team

tho after watching T1 vs zeta today i think lucio kiri is even harder meta cuz of healing buff

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[unreal sonnet]

just kill kiri pls

lucio aint that good without kiri rn if team isnt like full dive

[glass sleet]

Yeah, they should kill kiriko so Korea has a chance of winning again.

[unreal sonnet]

nah

idc korea winning or smth

i just wanna see supps actually doing smth

instead of healbotting kiri and beat only lucio

[glass sleet]

I don’t find Ana fun to watch. Just sitting 10000 maps away just shooting.

[unreal sonnet]

you barely see them during broadcasting

[unreal sonnet]

look at viol2t illiari

ana has nade and sleep

which makes game fun

1 good sleep/nade wins u rounds

[glass sleet]

I also don’t enjoy set and forget ability like pylon.

Poke slop.

[unreal sonnet]

i prefer supps doing more than just healbotting

[glass sleet]

Not my cup of tea.

[unreal sonnet]

healbotting isnt not my cup of tea aswell

[glass sleet]

Since we both like different things, I say what I want is priority.

Agree?

[unreal sonnet]

true

[unreal sonnet]

priority of what tho

js asking

like lucio speed?

[glass sleet]

I’m saying what I want is more important than what you want.

[glass sleet]

I like Lucio and speed is fun.

[unreal sonnet]

i like speed and lucio too

[glass sleet]

So I’ll take Lucio kiriko over Ana illary.

[unreal sonnet]

but seeing same backline for 2 years straight sucks

kill kiri

[glass sleet]

Literally half the teams this stage aren’t on Lucio kiriko

[unreal sonnet]

half the teams??

[glass sleet]

Like zeta literally did not play kiriko Lucio against T1

[unreal sonnet]

zeta just hates lucio kiri

[glass sleet]

Zeta, qad, Dallas fuel just to name a few.

[unreal sonnet]

any other team mains lucio kiri as long as they arent banned

[glass sleet]

No, buddy.

[unreal sonnet]

i cant watch na owcs cuz of timezone do they

[glass sleet]

Dallas plays double flex and they won na easily.

[unreal sonnet]

double flex

is it ana wuyang?

or ana kiri

[glass sleet]

Illary lol

Ana illary

[unreal sonnet]

ic

[glass sleet]

Sir.

[unreal sonnet]

i dont hate kiri herself too

[glass sleet]

We also had some teams play Juno brig

Like VP

TL

[unreal sonnet]

juno brig mainly?

not occasionally

[glass sleet]

They didn’t play one style more

Like TL’s last series they were on Juno brig most the time I believe

[unreal sonnet]

even when juno was shit

[glass sleet]

I remember thinking “why are Vega and escanor on brig Juno when kiriko isn’t banned?”

VP also played Juno brig half the time.

[unreal sonnet]

is juno brig even good

when you arent countering dva

[glass sleet]

Idk but my point is, it’s not all just Lucio kiriko, we have many different backlines.

Lucio kiriko, Ana illary, Juno brig

And bliss on wuyang…

I like me some wuyang.

[cosmic socket]

That wuyang kiri ball double fdps comp from the beginning of stage 3 last year is a top 5 comp oat

https://tenor.com/view/kiriko-overwatch-blunt-humor-absolute-cinema-gif-8429396327595847449

[unreal sonnet]

donghak 😭 😭

son

[indigo estuary]

AI

that’s AI

my goat doesn’t miss those

[unreal sonnet]

yeah its AI

also he would not play jq in current meta against mei

also he definitely wont focus pylon with beat

[primal skiff]

when does world cup for EMEA start today?

[indigo estuary]

Exactly

[pine shuttle]

right now

[teal hare]

Bap brig exists to now

[indigo estuary]

bap illari too

[teal hare]

I think that's a "viol2t is my Ms" exclusive comp in current overwatch

Unless I'm missing a game or two

[indigo estuary]

Dallas play it sometimes

[teal hare]

Right dallas

[indigo estuary]

I know galaa loves playing illari

[teal hare]

Dallas also pulled out an ana Winston comp

[indigo estuary]

Same with Vega

[indigo estuary]

Peak

[teal hare]

Mhm

The issue is there's still a clearly generally best comp and the only time things interesting is teams who actively just like other teams comps

[indigo estuary]

The only reason to not play kiri Lucio is if you’re bored of kiri Lucio

Like that’s it

[bronze timber]

@indigo estuary who won between zeta and T1?

[placid furnace]

zeta3-1

[bronze timber]

Makes sense thx

[chrome cloak]

Germany are kicking ass rn

[indigo estuary]

Who’s playing

[chrome cloak]

it was Germany vs Israel

Israel won 1 fight

[indigo estuary]

Good on Germany

[cosmic socket]

1 fight promised to them 3000 years ago

[chrome cloak]

LMAO

I hope Poland does well

[indigo estuary]

Who’s on team Poland again hold on

[chrome cloak]

icav

china

ega

icav is a SHOOTER

saw him in emea tier 2 and he was gross

[indigo estuary]

Ik china and egs

[chrome cloak]

Netherlands are a funny team their tank is a streamer

[indigo estuary]

And icav

[indigo estuary]

kraan?

[chrome cloak]

yep

[indigo estuary]

his ori tho 👀👀

[terse canyon]

damn we rematching 80 years later

[sacred gulch]

okay gang serious question

dallas fuel
vs tm
3-0?
tm or do we think fuel can fight back

[teal hare]

Kraans on a team that got first in faceits lower tier tournament to make it to masters and I think is a pretty up there team for thode brackets to

[teal hare]

I Personally think it'll be a 3-1
Dallas can fight back but I mean without any significant meta shifts aside from vendetta tm is still gonna win

[glass sleet]

Wait a minute…

[glass sleet]

From things are looking, it would be a 3-0 for tm. Na doesn’t look strong as a whole and tm are world champs and definitely playing like one.

They lost one map all stage. Literally 15-1 record.

[unreal sonnet]

i think 2-3 tm win tl went 2-3 against tm in bootcamp

[glass sleet]

TL? The team that didn’t qualify to lan?

The team that barely qualified to playoffs?

[unreal sonnet]

yes team liquid

[glass sleet]

It ain’t the same team.

[unreal sonnet]

only rupal changed as i remember?

[glass sleet]

They lost rupal and the meta doesn’t favor them but even then, they never beaten tm.

[glass sleet]

Yeah and with the new player and the meta not being something they like…they looked really bad.

Also DF poops on current TL

and TM poops on them both.

[unreal sonnet]

huge fownfall for TL i guess

[glass sleet]

Yeah, absolutely.

[unreal sonnet]

why are poke comps often unpopular in pro plays tho

i dont think many teams use it except like zeta

[glass sleet]

They’re not really playing hard poke comps.

They be playing illary with monkey

Or dva

[unreal sonnet]

yeah they arent even hard poke aswell

[glass sleet]

It’s the same with Dallas fuel.

Same comps.

[unreal sonnet]

i think sigma isnt bad in current meta?

[glass sleet]

Yeah he’s not bad but dva is best tank.

[unreal sonnet]

domina feels like zar with long range and less dmg but she has only 1 placable shield

[glass sleet]

She can do a lot of damage.

[unreal sonnet]

not as much as full energy zar

she does decent damage

but her survivability is so bad

[glass sleet]

I think zarya is being played because she can bubble vendetta.

Not because of her damage.

[unreal sonnet]

im sayin domina is shit

[glass sleet]

Is she tho?

[unreal sonnet]

shes just too fragile

no shield no party

[glass sleet]

Idk. I never played her.

[unreal sonnet]

even with shield

if they have soj/whatever to ignore/destroy shield

she cant even hold

and she doesnt have mobility either

[glass sleet]

Sigma still better poke than her.

[unreal sonnet]

is he idk not sure about better poke

but her survivability is actually so terrible

[glass sleet]

Seen more sigma than domina so I guess.

[glass sleet]

Doesn’t she have a one shot combo?

I know her primary does half hp with good tracking.

[unreal sonnet]

yes but very limited range

[glass sleet]

Limited range for a poke tank…

[teal hare]

I feel like Dallas are strong enough to take at LEAST 1 map

[teal hare]

"poke" (she's a brawl tank generally)

Like if your playing her your gonna wanna be in the fight properly

[unreal sonnet]

limited range to 1 combo

yeah

[wise orbit]

of tm? noo

they can maybe go 5 maps with vp

but tm is likes miles ahead any other team in the west

[chrome cloak]

if the pn actually changed anything Dallas would absolutely beat tm but I fear Saudi oil money makes tm not get nerfed of their 1 style

[wise orbit]

yeah no

unless it was hard monkey or ball meta i just dont see it

tm are just really fucking good at overwatch

[wise orbit]

to clarify i think tm would completly stomp dallas on anything else

[cosmic socket]

I think Dallas are good for at least a map because of bans

Maybe 2

If they can take Lu kiri from tm I think they're super good for it

[wise orbit]

r u guys being serious

like im sitting here thinking about it and the more i do the more im getting ragebaited

in what draft scenario do u guys think dallas are beating tm

[indigo estuary]

Dallas don’t stand a chance against tm unless they giga buff ball

like it’s 3-0 if it’s not a ball or monkey meta

even then

They can still play dva and win

[cosmic socket]

Okay 2 maps might be cope

But what do tm do on the Lucio ban map

Or dva ban gib

I think dallas on Ana illari > tm on Juno kiri

[wise orbit]

lucio ban on like koth or flashpoint could be scary maybe

on any long map its fine

dva ban on gib is whatever

tm will shit on dallas playing haz

[indigo estuary]

Ppl forget Tvnt has a sneaky good hero pool

like haz , ram , dva , zar is all u need rn

[wise orbit]

the haz ban might unironically be better for them

on gib

[indigo estuary]

I thjnk dva ban is better on other maps so I agree

[wise orbit]

if you want to play winston the haz ban is better for sure

[indigo estuary]

I think if they want to win they just gotta give quartz food poisoning tbh

just eliminate th threat

[split flume]

tm 3-0's dallas and its easy for them

[indigo estuary]

the only team challenging them is zeta

atp

[craggy veldt]

Is there a owcs match tomorrow I forgot about the twitch rewards

[split flume]

korea games in like 6 hours

[craggy veldt]

Alrighty tyy

[sacred gulch]

crazy how hard cr fell off

they gotta lose max

[indigo estuary]

hes under salary for next year right?

i cant blame teams for not buying him out

[sacred gulch]

idk

but hes handedly the weakest link

holding cr back

like even if you wanna go zarya for zarya

attack is diffing him

[split flume]

tbf attack is him

[sacred gulch]

truke

[cosmic socket]

attack is the goat

[sacred gulch]

rode onside relying more on attack than you’d expect

[cosmic socket]

i havent been watching korea

[sacred gulch]

might be the best zarya in asia

[cosmic socket]

is cr starting max or junbin

[sacred gulch]

max

throwing

[cosmic socket]

rough

max is good individually

[sacred gulch]

yeah like

[cosmic socket]

from my understanding junbin just contributes a lot to comms

[sacred gulch]

every pro player is fine
all are monsters in ladder

but this is the highest level of play

max is holding them back

[split flume]

yeah junbin is their primary igl i think

[sacred gulch]

losing shu was very bad

[split flume]

that too

[sacred gulch]

but i didnt think cr would fall this hard

[cosmic socket]

like you can slot in a different offtank player if you want but theyre gonna look just as shit if they also dont comm

[sacred gulch]

shu igl’d like crazy

[cosmic socket]

i forgot they lost shu too

[sacred gulch]

shu and viol2t are clowning

zeta best in asia

icl idk much about falcons

but cr having falloff of the century

[cosmic socket]

are they doing lip stalker or stalker heesang

[sacred gulch]

latter ive seen more

[split flume]

i feel like falcons are gonna keep leveling up

[sacred gulch]

isnt lip retiring

[split flume]

junkbuck and checkers too much brainpower

[sacred gulch]

or is that just rumors

[cosmic socket]

are falcons doing sym stuff or no

[indigo estuary]

attack is thanos on dva

and zar tbh

[sacred gulch]

someone in the warframe server saw my discord banner

[split flume]

they are

[sacred gulch]

and even said is lip retiring?

[split flume]

but not all the time

[indigo estuary]

checkmate is thanos

[sacred gulch]

so is he?

[split flume]

i think he gonna retire end of this year

[indigo estuary]

hes like propert

always rumors that hes gonna retire or twt posts ab retiring

then he never does

i think this is the year

[sacred gulch]

losing overwatch’s faker if he does

[split flume]

the fact lip is benched is the biggest signal that he's moving on soon

[split flume]

proper isnt retiring ?

[indigo estuary]

truth nuke

[sacred gulch]

hasnt lip made the most money

[split flume]

lip has won the most things

viol2t has made more money

[sacred gulch]

off the books

[cosmic socket]

viol2t cashapp method broken

[sacred gulch]

[split flume]

even by approximate winnings on liquipedia which is the only thing to go off of viol2t has still made more money

early owl prize pools were fucking nuts

[sacred gulch]

i guess

cr bench max or they lose tho

my 2 cents

[split flume]

2019

[indigo estuary]

1 million 2019

yes

[sacred gulch]

we got any bets between the toilet bowl match

[split flume]

2020

[split flume]

cheeseburger 3-0

[sacred gulch]

rip new era

idk eother of the rosters ngl

[split flume]

new era literally

[sacred gulch]

i never saw either play

[split flume]

bought the spot

after they failed to get in through qualifiers

[sacred gulch]

you lying

thats hilarious

[split flume]

zeta capped runasapi against new era literally one second slower than the mathematically fastest time possible

[indigo estuary]

if cheeseburger dont win

[split flume]

2 minute 28 second map

[indigo estuary]

its an upset

D0D0 is so good

the genji kid

[sacred gulch]

sound like an upset if new era takes a map

[cosmic socket]

also anyone notice how all 3 major regions are gonna have golden stage winners

[split flume]

across 7 series

new era have capped 3 points

[sacred gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

kill tm

the question is what the monkey paw would do in exchange

https://tenor.com/view/tvnt-twisted-minds-owcs-saudi-esports-owcs-saudi-gif-7690121172582388177

[hollow fog]

https://tenor.com/view/guxue-owcs-guxue-owcs-overwatch-2-overwatch-gif-10121824021049132702

[hollow fog]

is the toilet bow the most hyped overwatch match in a while???

https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721

[indigo estuary]

BRO yes

im so excited

stayingup to watch

[hollow fog]

imagine a 5 map banger

of actual slop

[indigo estuary]

I need it like i need air

[split flume]

nah cheeseburger 3-0

[sacred gulch]

5th map keeps being hybrid and they draw for 2 straight hours

[indigo estuary]

PLS

speed i need this

[hollow fog]

the greatest overwatch match of all time

[indigo estuary]

my esports kinda homeless and predictable

[sacred gulch]

mcd playing the best tank hes ever played

[hollow fog]

or cheeseburger wins 3-0

[sacred gulch]

isnt he the off roler too

[indigo estuary]

chill on houston vs bostoln]

[split flume]

JERRY

JERRY

JERRY

[indigo estuary]

mega chinese destroyer

most racist man aliver

[split flume]

mass chinese discriminator

[indigo estuary]

JERRY

[sacred gulch]

amazing

[indigo estuary]

LOL

[hollow fog]

anyways did anyone watch the owwc conference cup emea?

[sacred gulch]

i didnt

i didnt even watch usa

[indigo estuary]

no

who played

[hollow fog]

🦭

[hollow fog]

emea countries

[sacred gulch]

legit where is estonia without checking a globe

[hollow fog]

idk

[indigo estuary]

baltics

[sacred gulch]

are they emea or oce

[indigo estuary]

right near latvia and lithuania

emea

[sacred gulch]

ah

ty

[indigo estuary]

ofc

[sacred gulch]

estonia has a masters dps

richest man in estonia playing on another team i think

[indigo estuary]

they got admiral tho

yes hes playing sweden i think

[sacred gulch]

no they dont lmfao

[indigo estuary]

i know im saying hes from there

[sacred gulch]

he said fuck my home country

ah

[indigo estuary]

larping as kevster

[sacred gulch]

he can prob pull it off lowkey

i still consider him best ms at least in na

[split flume]

the "breakout player" rule for owwc is fucking stupid

[indigo estuary]

hes the best ms in na by far

[sacred gulch]

hes prob better than funnyastro too but thats not really hard

[split flume]

its why admiral said fuck team estonia

so stupid

[indigo estuary]

???????????

L fastro hate

lastro mentioned?

[sacred gulch]

tm is all star for other reasons

[indigo estuary]

sex big dick?

[sacred gulch]

not their main support

[indigo estuary]

u could say that ab every team

[split flume]

you said huh

[sacred gulch]

admiral simply cant deadlift his shit ass team this stage

[indigo estuary]

in terms of ms rn i think its 1. chorong 2. fastro 3. chiyo

[indigo estuary]

chill boops man

[sacred gulch]

best in na i said

i was dumb

burn blue

ssg has been so ass

[split flume]

lukemino mogs tf out of admiral

[indigo estuary]

4. admiral 5. vegas

his lucio isnt as good as admiral or vega

[sacred gulch]

vega too high

[split flume]

lukemino lowkey a mini viol2t

[indigo estuary]

hell no he just has a gm fs

[indigo estuary]

white violet

[sacred gulch]

i at least trust lukemino over anything custa says

[indigo estuary]

NA went from Lyar being white chiyo to lukefish being white viol2t

[sacred gulch]

should be someone modern up there on balance

not
n word cheating hanzo

[indigo estuary]

simple?

simples nuts at illari

and bap

not lu tho

[sacred gulch]

luke literally made a good tier list yesterday

thats like

[indigo estuary]

show

[sacred gulch]

super hard to do

[indigo estuary]

twitter?

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/lukeminoo/status/2044976061981552797?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

Lukemino (@LukeminoO)

2026 Season 2 Overwatch ranked tier list

X · Apr 17, 2026, 3:07 AM

[split flume]

viol2t is so insane on illari man

damn brig in s

[indigo estuary]

actual good tier list but sig should be A

lots of good sig players rn

[sacred gulch]

cant be perfect ig

but its prob the best in years

[indigo estuary]

no its still the best meta tier list ive ever seeen

[sacred gulch]

kill custa

[indigo estuary]

it makes sense hes like c2+ on all roles

[sacred gulch]

please hire an active pro

and fire the current balance team

[cosmic socket]

Lukemino is the goat

[indigo estuary]

he was my introduction to OWL with his history of overwatch videos

[indigo estuary]

hes literally thanos

[sacred gulch]

if only he wasnt fucking stupid

[cosmic socket]

Feel like nobody talks about how goated he is

[indigo estuary]

which is so funny bc he was on s5 vegas and s6 shock

[indigo estuary]

its bc hes not a super personable guy

keeps to himself

usually the most glazed players are the streamers

or super fun on stage

hes just uber consistent

[sacred gulch]

||https://vxtwitter.com/seasonover_/status/2044162771927871643?s=20||

echo 🪓🎄 (@seasonover_)

alright its finally time to show the dev team this because of these horrid patch notes

QRT: Aizen_0w
Guys can we get @Custa kicked off the Valiant?

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slur warning

watch at your own discretion

im reaching anyway

but custa does suck at balance tho

[indigo estuary]

oh shi

didnt knwo that

[sacred gulch]

its old af anyway

like i said im reaching

but he still cant balance for shit

[indigo estuary]

truth nuke

get someone who plays more thanlow masters placements

on the balance team

[sacred gulch]

masters?

you mean silver

cannot imagine the thought process
behind taking 5 meters off kiri tp and compensate making her busted

[indigo estuary]

he was masters a couple months ago

i think

NO im thinking of unter

oops

wrong washed ms

[sacred gulch]

and also ZERO DVA NERFS

[indigo estuary]

or zarya

[sacred gulch]

vend nerf is a zarya nerf

sorta

[indigo estuary]

kinda

teams still will just play genji or reaper or tra

[sacred gulch]

reaper

is kinda broke

so teah

[indigo estuary]

i understand why teams dont play him

bc hes a tank buster and dva has matrix and zar has bubble

but when teams are still playing mauga monkey and ball

[robust patio]

stalker used bas and got mvp?

[sacred gulch]

yeah but hes nuts in ladder

[indigo estuary]

reapers valid

[robust patio]

😭

[indigo estuary]

stalker could play mercy and get potg

that guy is so insane

[indigo estuary]

exactly

[sacred gulch]

is bastion lack of mobility the only reason its not zar bastion

cause he got the damage

[indigo estuary]

yes and no

bubble is better used on disrupting enemy backline rather than pure damage farming frontline

bc u win fights by dealing w supps

[sacred gulch]

icic

[indigo estuary]

at least thats what most t1 pros and coaches think from what ive seen

only one who likes bastion is christfer

[sacred gulch]

i watch alotta wizard

[indigo estuary]

on london he abused ts

[sacred gulch]

geniunely the best fdps coach alive

[indigo estuary]

wizardhyeong?

[sacred gulch]

yeah

[indigo estuary]

yeah hes so good for tra and genji vods

i dont play the game seriously enough to watch vods for improvement

but his videos about tracer made me understand the game at a higher level when watching esports

which is nice

[sacred gulch]

any hardstuck gm tracer would transcend with wizard coaching

like not even to champ

to tier 2 level

hes that good

[indigo estuary]

u can literally get to masters off just understanding target prio and blink timing

i wish i didnt have insanely shaky hands otherwise id be a fdps main

i gotta play tank or main supp LOL

[sacred gulch]

nerves or disability?

you can always play with more arm space

maybe get a sleeve

[indigo estuary]

both

[sacred gulch]

oh whats wrong with your hand

serious like parkinsons?

[indigo estuary]

i have super bad anxiety tremmors and i have parkinsons type symptoms due to nerve damage as a kid

i fell out of my crib and broke my wrist, and forearm as a 1 year old so the bones got fucked up

and then i also just fell a lot playing sports

so now my wrists r fucked

[sacred gulch]

Oof
hopefully they have some kinda anti vibration peripheral but idk

[indigo estuary]

hopefully! medicine is expensive

it doesnt hurt or anything like that i just get shakes

anxiety heightens it

same w adhd

[sacred gulch]

i got bad adhd aswell
prob on spectrum somewhere too

but nothing physical

[indigo estuary]

im audhd among many other thiings

and have pretty chronic health issues

but thats life and its the hand i was dealt

so we play our cards

[sacred gulch]

im a gm peak ms player

well mostly flex support
cause playing ms in ladder is hit or miss

but in an organized setting (fat chance)
id be on lucio

[indigo estuary]

HELL YEAH beast

im like ??? gold

idk

i have game sense i just dont apply it well in game

like i dont focus well enough to remember cd timings

[sacred gulch]

i think my roles are plat gold rn anyway so
same boat

but i also dont play enough anymore

[indigo estuary]

i play maybe 15 games per role a season LOL

[sacred gulch]

yeah i used to play minimum 300 games a season in ow1

[indigo estuary]

jeez

i started s9 ow2

[sacred gulch]

ive been on overwatch since open beta

2016

[indigo estuary]

i wish

i wouldve been good before my anxiety got bad

[sacred gulch]

i wasnt aware of overwatch during closed beta

[indigo estuary]

its so much easier to play controller games

[sacred gulch]

but wish i coulda been there

[indigo estuary]

im gc3 in rocket league

[sacred gulch]

are rocket league pros on controllers?

[indigo estuary]

all of them yes

[sacred gulch]

modern apex legends

[indigo estuary]

everyone plays ps4 or maybe some ps5 controller above gc

im so excited for champs clash jeez

i literally thought about going

[torn portal]

https://fixupx.com/kanakothe3rd/status/2045294317942763643?s=46 tr33 proper dps line

KanakoThe3rd OW (@KanakoThe3rd)

Tr33 mentioning that there might've been some interest from Zeta during the off season. Nothing more than that (I'm pretty sure the Liquid core is all locked up though 2026), but it wouldn't be surprising if there's a lot of interest in Tr33 come 2027, not just in NA.

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[indigo estuary]

dont make me excited

im salivating

could still happen

zeta got buyout money

[wise orbit]

korean owcs is for sure the most fun for the players with everythibg being irl

seeing ur fans every time u play

though if something like that happened i would feel rly bad for na fans lol

js losing all their top talent

[indigo estuary]

and them having regulations for orgs to pay players

esports government agency helps job security for sure

onlly problem is comms

[wise orbit]

ehh i seriously doubt he’d do it for money reasons

[indigo estuary]

oh i know

im just saying its a plus

[wise orbit]

yea

[indigo estuary]

or imagine stalker tr33

salivating

[glass sleet]

Yeah, I can’t see them taking a map. Tm aren’t relying on a specific comp. They’ll play whatever.

[sullen berry]

Streams are now live for what should be:
T1 3-0 ZAN
ZETA 3-0 Cheeseburger
FLC 3-2 Crazy Raccoons

Hot take if falcons win this then CR are not all that worried about the loss, since Seeding Qualifiers has higher stakes for qualification.

[unreal sonnet]

hey uhh

i think timestamps are kinda

broken

[indigo estuary]

Toilet bowl soon

Yes they are

[unreal sonnet]

u copied wrong time

[indigo estuary]

^ @sullen berry

[unreal sonnet]

nah flc 3-1 cr

[indigo estuary]

flc 3-0 but kinda close imo

like they don’t get stomped

But flc win comfortably

[sullen berry]

Sigh, here we go again

[indigo estuary]

LOL

[pliant saffron]

how do i get those coins for the skins.?