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lets just make doom dva monkey and ball the best heroes in the good so we can forever be in dive
and ana brig too
#TBH
^^^^^
dive metas are best
Just bring back main tanks
jq tho 😣😣
make doom ball monkey all meta
How the fuck is brawl the worst meta when poke exists
Poke is extremely boring
Brawl is so fun
LMAOOO
lol
DAllas
isnt jaewoo and import?
the next most likely from tomorrow's Lower Bracket is SSG & virtus.pro
can't wait
I also hope VP will qualify
they probably will, with a perfomance like that
geekay may be warming up for tomorrow because they didn't look that strong against TM


What time is this
I just woke up
Team*
Yeah
That pfp had me dying
I’m going back to bed
Crazy raccoon vs poker face
Should be a easy win
After yesterday's ZETA vs RØDE Onside Gaming (my phone finally learned how to use the Ø symbol automatically)
https://x.com/i/status/2042894959918092753
I think T1 getting an actual main support was better
But I think T1 should be 3rd
i really rated that maka leesoomin backline
I think bliss was underrated only because he was on a struggling SSG and awful Zeta but is genuinely good
honestly just watching ts makes me wish i could do my own esports org
im still learning but this looks so cool
lemme just quickly hustle a mil to afford it
Going into esports is a other way of going broke
yeah it would be apassion project, outside of my normal 9-5, thats what i assume most people starting one do
if it doesnt work, so be it
Unless your csgo and league of
Legends
Which also have gambling ads
tbf i grew up w cs esports, i feel like ow wouldnt be as expensive to run
It mostly players
i mean the first momths/years of any business always are net losses, which is fine for me
That cost a lot
Even if you win you prob won’t gain much
Csgo stickers and league skins make a lot of money
But player salaries
Is where the issue is
yeah but the dad lore
i'm not looking at this from a profit pov its literally for the lore
Like falcons have paid a lot for there csgo but only won small tournament
if i sink money so be it 💀
True it be better then kingdom hearts story
take that shit back
Kellan might be the goat
Kellan won a series against SSG playing Ram Dva Winston Ball
don’t forget rein
Kellen is channeling Dallas Fearless
Kellan unironically one of the most flexible tanks
Probably him and Donghaker
donghaker 😭
proper is insane
Never
probably best player itw rn
what retratatedo or whatever was accusing me of doing in our 1v1
count ya days
i wanna see jaewoo vs proper
jaewoo was gapping heesang so hard in bootcamp
maybe he could have chance against proper
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Should
Be counting kingdom
Hearts days till the 4 game comes
Out
I wanna see seonjun vs proper
hydrogen bomb vs dying ant
the shit seonjun does is a violation upon players
seonjun played against proper when he was at way/wae before
oh tru
he went like
7:3 against proper
which isnt too bad considering sp1nt got gapped so hard on tracer he swapped to genji 😭
id swap to genjj if i die like this too bro
sp1nt pov
hes not even on his screen
and hes getting bent over
all of zeta are playing insane rn
absolutely the best team
i can't count that high
That fps hurts my eyes
Is there an easy way to get started with overwatch competitive? Like are there pick up game / scrim servers or like a website with info on it
@sullen berryarre u watching new era vs zeta
are the notability guidelines on Liquipedia are still accurate?
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i hope this isnt the wrong channel
I did, and viol2t on jetpack cat carrying knife on bastion was so good
liquipedia has their own discord
afaik nobody here has any knowledge about it
they were trolling but still dominating
it was wild
thank you
do any pros use raw accel iN overwatch
Was he playing flex or main
What about it ???
He’s the leader at T1
At least on the player roster he’s the clear leader when he’s not in they look worse
All kiri and juno up until today
nothing in common except hes leader of T1 tbh
and hmm
both r superstar mainly playing very hard characters
Ah
That exactly what I said
Tank has kinda become Midlane for Overwatch and both t1 teams kinda played awful with them playing
and leaders carry the game
doom in 2026 😭 😭
i remember some dude sayin shi like
no!!11 you cant win the game with doom in pro play cuz hes selfish character and his whole team will be abandoned
Exactly
And Donghak won with doom
against cr not even weak teams
hmm actually cr might be weak
And he beat Max on off tank heroes like. Zarya and Orisa
whats the point of playing juno lucio
Their weaker than last year but not a weak team still
5th place team
Still not terrible but not good either they’re in the middle
idk why tanks who can play doom ball winton wont play sigma etc
if you can play doom ball sigma zarya cannot be hard for you??
I think because sigma isn’t playing much rn
no im asking like
why main tank players cant play sub tanks
Oh
Infected can but that’s only case I seem to remember
donghak played zarya well too
And Dva
anyways why cant they play sub tanks
holding m1 at main cannot be that hard?
I remember last yeah he diffed Bernar on Dva which is crazy
I don’t know
Lf duo 18+
Ignore them, they're Dum

i odnt get it how are they so much better in the ult fights
every time
it feels like
last time too
67%
the unstoppable force of Landon not missing a lan
vs the immovable object of Kevin missing every lan
fuck off
vs the unstoppable alphayi
fuck off dude
IM CORRECT
what r u talking abt
Lbbd7 ult doing fuckin nothing lol
oh
I'm still mad about VP GenG
missing a year of mauga 🥀🥀🥀
geng got ddossed
Shockwave forcing Freja on Eichenwalde just made me wanna vomit
le hecking dishonest mauga meta
i only enjoy dive meta where i cant even see the plays being made
me when my flex supp can only play bap kiri juno
Most flexible non dps in emea lol
shades of na emre by lbbda focusing kev
landon looking sloppy
good trades
denying checkpoint good
yea they won the draft big here
alphayi doesnt look as good on the vendetta as he does on Tracer but thats the tracer ban out
no more tracer ban but honestly they seem to love playing zar kiri lucio so could they not just force seicoe vendetta
gib + dva ban would force a haz mirror probably which is good for eis but it didnt go well at all in the tm series
and we've seen ziyad go crazy on haz as well
so would it even be that big of an advantage
souj ban interesting
his kiri is insane
one of the best out there ngl
woah i didnt watch
but i see eis killed the lobby
ult economy looking pretty equal
ooo they capped tho
thats big
yessss
yea the vp backline is noticeably stronger
this is how VP is moving rn
LOL
W kev
pls no int eis
good trade
only thing standing between vp and japan now is attackers advantage
YESSSSSS
YES
Kevin is finally going to a major
I HAVE A TEAM TO ROOT FOR IN JAPAN
based VP
now i want vp to take at least one map of tm
and its a perfect night
watch out bud
landon gna shit on wbg be ready
meta warriors
give me fire give me liberty give me brawl meta or i retire
saudi oil money bribing blizzard to never change the mets
haku shit
you cant deny it
nah tm are meta warriors
vp beats wbg on everything but winston dive
eis at least can play ball
watch out
GET THIS FUCK OFF YM SCREEN
GET OFF KY DAMN SCREEN
ANYBODY BUT HIS BALDING ASS
watch your tone boy landon is the best western support oat
MOTH???
idk i didnt watch that era
nor did I but even I know
just lying
just lying bro
everybody got a better hairline than landon
im like 1 second away from the away winsotn skin
hadi?
ahhh hes not in the league anymore
my chinese goats will never bald
good lord guxue is 25 wtf
i didnt even know that
i think hes older than his whole team
leave and shy have adjacent birthdays ive never seen better team chemistry than that
guxue and i have adjacent birthdays
RIP TVNT
lol
TM don't lose a round
LOL SEICOE
This shit is so boring man
hello goats whats happend
having zero expectations is cool because i can be happy about any sign of life
especially since they already qualified
It's like divine intervention to make tm win
yea
the best teams are always insane clutch teams as well
tm, cr last 2 years
idk i think emre ban might just be insta win for tm
it'll make the hitscan differential a lot more impactful
double flex i fw it
i mean kev tracer is just too good what do u even do if ur tm
Wait what's he score between them rn
Did tm finally lose a map
1-0 for tm
vp currently playing double flex on aatlis and finding alot of value
kev ult
oof
fixa
It looks like it might be a 3-0 or 3-1 on this map
kev ult lwky deciding if they got that point or not, just hit one of the backline and it could be good
fixa vs haku for mid beats
nvm quartz
funnyastro is like a god at lucio the way he never fumbles one beat
W Eis
kev vs quartz
eis locked in
Kev on tracer finally
The minute TM is off their comfort

if tm win this im genuinely gonna be pissed off
i didnt expect vp to take a map anyway but losing this would be so fucking lame
If they reverse this VP might be booked
this will be a reverse
It’s Fixa’s fault lol
true
yeah just fuck off
This is a reverse of LJG where his beats do Nothing
lol

Ok I was bit harsh fixa
tm lost a game i cant believe it
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
fixa's crosshair so distracting
wp
TM LOST A MAP
Finally TM lost a map
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
ig 3:1 it is now xDD
yoooo
4-1 but yea
FUCK YOU TM
NO GOLDEN STAGE L BOZO
yep its a perfect night
I love VP
i didnt follow emea is this really tm's first map loss?
tm
no way right
but holy shit vp got nervous at the end, close match. but tm finally lost a map
😂
The emre was the problem
true
no no its just that htey could force double flex there. emre meta makes the hitscan match up a lot more winnable for vp
compared to something like soj or ashe
they lost one map
THEY WILL KEEP LOSING
simple on juno i was shocked for a second
how come vp looks 10x better than literally the game bfore vs geekay
map one looked similar to the one against geekay
they could force double flex on aatlis with seicoe and kevster
kevster and landon remembered how good they were
so thats like the best case scenario for them
intersting kitsune, how tf did that work
this is potential for a full holdf
kev u are the goat
We love kev
vp dps taking turns on tm
LOL
kev diff
just ult difference
idk if landons kitsune woulda made a diff
prob best he held
seicoe staggered as fuck
MIGHT be over
not good for vp
like the mechanics and player quality is there smash just needs to build a system like tm and alqad did last year
so they can win these more macro heavy match ups
praying fr
they are nt losing
as long as funny wont be missing a beat they aint loosing
ngl bro
i feel like vp sometimes gets lost in big ult exchanges
get junkbuck on this vp team and this roster wins a ring
i wouldn't go that far but the talent's definitely there to make it a top 3 team
true* forgot to reply
And get Xzo as hitscan
seicoe applying his inner jay3 powers
what was that pulse bomb
genuinely
even looking at rosters
not a single vp player starts for tm
atm
insane gappa in skill
seicoe
landon ?
simple >
aLETS GO KEVSTER
i've only ever seen simple play kiri (atm thats all u need) but ik landon is a demon on bap and his kiri is good too
kev at it again
not insane but i think ur right
but give me seicoe on anything other than tracer genji
ITS HAPPENING
oof steamroll
.
signs of life
thats it 4-1 for vp
HOLY FUCK
i think simple and landon are interchangeable also
i believe they can take it
they got this
NICE
winnable
and vp has attackers advantage
1:30m less time then tm, but its still winable
looking real winnable
pls no bap bro 😭
the vp throw
instant swap dw
i believe in landon
HE STAYING ON BAP?
this is the bap goat chill
ig for pharah
not unplatable here
please get off bap
kiri swap
bap was NOT the pick here
yeah its over
tm not getting held here
ITS OK
quartz will just get a bs kill and its gg
2.30m is crazy
im so glad the players cant see chat
PLEASE
the only players TM could replace are fastro and jaewoo otherwise everyone else is t2 in the world and jaewoo is prob a t3 dps anyways and fastro is top lucio as well
that team is just so gross
SEICOEEEE
vp out building them too
NOOOO
nvm
yeah ggs
fixa
fixa is so fucking shit
fixa is hard coping ngl
ok fixa threw but still i think they lose that
what is with main supports and throwing
whats fixa doing bro yeah let me stand in the open vs pharah emre
every main support throws when they need to lock in
and fixa doesnt have beat
i swear
it was winnable
looks worse than it actually is
if fixa js lives
spirit of lep
it was winable but fixa had to die
what is fixa doing there to stop quartz without beat
its a throw but i think they lose anyway
bro they have rush grav
barrage too coming
Is pharah the most boring hero to watch
What
this just in
ramattra:
fixa inserted into brazen bull
iont like to watch pharah gp in owcs, idk its not for me
Tm in general I find so boring to watch
my hot take is that mauga and widow are insanely fun to watch in pro play
no its a loss but i just wonder how fixa ends up there lol
yea
less so mauga cause every mauga pro play usage is a mirror or sombra countering
well
"fun"
i guess he does early poke but backs off too late
yeah but cage fights are hilarious
because its a good spot to shoot them walking up on main
unless sombra banned you wont see one
and he wants to farm beat
isnt it better to stand at the statue then instead of one of the flower pots
if he stays there he gets caught out no matter what
cause hes crouching behind the pot but he gets just splashed by pharah anyaway
hazard ban was good, but ball could work too on midtown
good luck with the box, i hope you get smth you really like. i got a PHARAH skin last time
like god damn thats the char i dont want
woow u not gonna ask me
Simple dead
drop the tag
WalterWipe#2490
on a side note being a pro player must be so tolling on the mental i know i couldnt scrim dva / zarzya slop fpr 6 hours a day every day
ima watch owcs but lets play some time
Emre is broken asf
emre is broken rn, hate to admit it cuz i like souj gp WAY more
they are sorta even cause emre is just way easier and get punished way less]
yea somewhat
i think emre is just numbers broken theres nothing fundamentally op
sojis way harder
enough for tm to not play soj but u can make that char work
well souj is the 2nd option when emre is banned, so she is still really good
if ur against worse teams soj might even be better because you'll be more dominant in the neutral
hes basically unpunishable with the same damage
How does tvnt always live man
thats a ggs tho
override protocol and his pistol just do too much otherwise i think he's fine
lmao 😭
im not playing today
brother
he's got hands
i got work 2 hours
whats ur rank
gonna keep it a buck as an Ashe main: the legendary skins for her more than for other characters is slowly getting to a point
like to me personally Ashe is almost there on where she doesn’t need as many skins cuz she’s fine as she is
gm peak but i dont play comp much
i just did stadium for drives
its pretty ass
no competition for tm after all
Is tm a sauceless team when Quartz is off sojourn
no cause fixa will invigorate his aura by peaking him for no reason
why is his crosshair like that
too mid of a lucio to be using a funky heart crosshair IMO
wait ur right LOL
no lol
i forgot i was here last to talk abt VP’s win
my bad
😭
whoops
anyways see yall next weekend methinks
They lost when he was on soj
I'm not saying skill
forgot theres another match, but shouldnt be anything special
Zeta is a team with sauce
ok u mean aura
I'm so bored watching tm
Didnt emre ban already get used
yea tm has gotten alot more boring to watch
their sym comps at stockholm were a lot more fun
are they geniunely afraid of kevster widow
yeah ony cause they have viol2t running it down and somehow getting 2 every fight
I am pretty sure same hero cant get banned twice
yes im aware
Maybe vendetta ban block
so what are they blocking
cr used to be so fun to watch but with shu gone i fear that has changed
vigi just isnt shu
cr 4th place randies cause of max
Holy fck I thought the match was finished 😭
so true but in general both of their tanks are dragging like
Push the fkn robot VP
aura
stupid beat
alr gg
Ngl
They should do rebroadcasts of the domestic streams for people who cant get the watchtime in on the weekends
They used to do it, idk why they stopped
couldve been 2
landon walks out on kiri and they win tbh
they have one team with the player quality to compete with eu and asia but they're passionless
tl could've done something maybe if it werent for the incident
Fr
prob not gonna be able to stay awake for the dallas game
im getting my owcs lootbox no matter what tho
unfort i wont be able to open it until the 15th
tl now go gib, ban dva, win and then ssg finish 3-1
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nvm its 3-0
yeah
SSG won just now
like why not take your free win draft to maybe turn momentum around
ChrisTFer is FunnyAstro lmao



What na teams are going to
Japan?
https://x.com/i/status/2043469180134203450 fill out the survey, fellas.
Need them to run more tournaments so more teams can qualify instead of the 8 you see here.
No TL?
@static pond already posted the 2 from EMEA and Japan
Huh
They lost 
Gives tjem time to find a flex support
Them*
Well this stage had really burnt themselves out with scrims just trying to catch up
Who Dallas fuel coach?
imagine telling team liquid fans after bootcamp that they would miss lan because of racism
The fact they about beat SSG the first time was impressive but i think they just exhausted
But top 3 with conditions is impressive
Wtf the last map wast even close
I went to watch it and Dallas had 5mins??? At 135mm
lol ye
https://t.co/K2Lk2ThyIi
QRT: InfektedOW
Really excited to be tank partners with my Winthrop teammate and someone with so much experience. (And I’m free from dva jail)
wheats
Same coach responsible for the NTMR win vs CR this time last year
All 6 regions stage winners are about to have a golden stage
Yes
Shoutout team envy for keeping the Dallas fuel branding
#burnblue
Ye
Underrated coach
thats the only na coaches
SHOCK SIGMA? I HOPE YOU DIE (respectfully)
THE BEST SIGMA OF ALL TIME
shock sig is one of the ones I really want
like shock have had the best of a lot of characters
and I think sigma is THE shock character I think of sig and choihyoibin comes to mind
I’m so
Jealousy
I think I got the Chengdu or Seoul Sig or
Using Valk should give rez back idgaf talk to the wall shes literally useless currently
chat
There's no buff you could give mercy that wouldn't be aids
You have to nuke the whole character and start over if you want her allowed to be good
+1 healing per second
+5 health
ez
Yeah sure bring back max rez great idea lol
MF wants moth mercy again
I know it wouldn't be the same but fuckin lol
i think it would be so cool if crazy esports plays would be immortalized in the game somehow like on the maps they happened on
rez and blue beam should be in ult only
tombstone right here
I think the thing is that crazy plays like that happen fairly regularly in ow but the player base itself isn't a majority esports fans like in csgo
its not a problem with the balancing, mercy is just a character that is made for people who dont want to learn shit that other heroes use like conventional aim or normal movement, a character that is designed for people who want to be less impactful should be less impactful imo
and thats totally fine btw, i think anyone who wants to play mercy should be able to play mercy, but should not have the same skill ceiling as say ana or bap or zen or most other supps
Anyone know if the bracket for Japan is out
Facts
Sorta released
They dropped this but liquipedia and the livestream will have an official graphic soon https://x.com/i/status/2043584975162032635
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They need a Japan slot
No shit Japan won’t make it through kr
No they do not true
We had a pacific-japan slot that seemed like healthy competition last stage. It wasnt great for Pacific but it did give them a fair shot at earning their slot
anyone knows when the next livestream for the twitch drops is? end date is Fr 24th april. is there another stream till then? cause there is nothing in the schedule
https://owtv.gg/matches try this for drops
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tyy
all the overseas korean fdps r insane
did u miss last year
For what?
VP didn’t think so. They dropped Jaewoo.
to answer ur question tm are still world champ lvl, alqad from last year blew up and vp got slightly better but they're not as good as alqad was
so tm dont have as much competition anymore
With a roster like VP…they should be so much better.
i agree
They don’t even have a coach.
i honestly think the mechanics and the player quality in general is there
they're just far behind tm on macro
youbi
Ah yes, the sym player.
Bro must understand the game at a high level.
Youbi >> Moon.

like val
tama left al i pray they get goldenpants for stage 2
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That team is cooked.
Yes infact he does
This is unironically probably why he's such a good sym player
Can someone tell me when the next owcs stream starts?
I mean we have LeeJaeGon Tower
Future top 1 team
When is the stream today?
Pela goat
beautiful
He’s genuinely the coach for the team. Almost every decision for the team is his
eis has surprised me and i bet overtime he will be very good.
I think kevster seicoe is a great dps line that they barely ever utilize full (they only played double fdps once, and it was the only map vp ever took off tm). It makes me wish they had a dedicated hitscan like xzodyal just to let kevster dominate on fdps
fixa landon is good but they just need more time to rly pop off, but in theory it has as much potential as funnyastro simple did at the start
yea i agree
individually i think eis needs to step up the most
but their biggest problems r just general macro stuff
mechanically they're basically there
like they seem to struggle alot with ult fights
and eis gets caught out pretty often tunnel visioning on a single target
if they want to keep kev seicoe as their dps line up i think they could consider trying to force double fdps more often
but im sure they're trying that sort of stuff in scrims
What am I looking at
Full team of ball?
Guys I’m going back to school overwatch isn’t for me 😥
real
ill do my own version of unranked to OWCS 😈
No like actual I quit school for overwatch
Biggest mistake ever
PRANKED YA🤣
Sorry the timezones were bugged, that was yesterday
Damn... when the next one?
Checked the updated time
In #esports-news ?
Day 2 should be tomorrow <t:1776157200:F> (<t:1776157200:R>)
So you're 12 hours early
Its becuase it's japan time, sorry for the mixup 
i'm 99% on owcs twitch drops , is there stil streams that i can catch?
Goat
Just make an account on twitter and follow them there
LOL
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still mid as hell tho
i want jjonak
Ahd they asked why they kept WhoRu
Then years later GenG screwed him over giving him the worse year as a pro
Can't win them all.
That's why i bought them when they came out on launch except thunder doom
I have the
Jjonak and the London Winston skin
My favs ones
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watch
trust.
They need to nerf Zarya
This boring ass character deserves nothing
Brawl is great but Zarya is BORING
I'd rather watch brawl over poke
ID RATHER HAVE DIVE
Yes me too
But come on brawl is also fun
It's just Zarya she's a boring character
Reduce the damage from 22 to 21
make his ult cost more
Think they could nerf his m1 his ult and his nade radius (better than launch worse than current)
they rly just micro buffed him until he became giga
i dont really care what meta we have
i want to see metas get over thrown
even if its dumb af, like i wanna see a new strat take over the next month, then another the next
variety of content, lets ow devs guage which characters fans like seeing vs playing for balancing reasons, and makes it easier to distinguish stages



