esports-discussion

[stray jackal]

DSG already had 3 players, and wanted to get the sakura core, but they didn't want to split up

Dunno where albert comes into play

[glass sleet]

When they had Painkiller and they dropped him because the coach wanted Rokit and tred so he said that he will not join DSG unless painkiller is dropped for tred?

[static pond]

I’m
Hella confused by all this too

Ether pk not being sign to dsg is a big letdown

[glass sleet]

They signed him…then dropped him.

He was signed before tred and Rokit.

[static pond]

Who tred?

Signing rokit I understand

Na becoming a friendship region?

[glass sleet]

Pk was on DSG before Rokit and tred. DSG wanted Rokit badly but Rokit said he’ll play if a certain coach gets to coach him and that coach said he’ll only join DSG if they sign tred.

[static pond]

Bruh

Na sounds horrible

[glass sleet]

Now you know the drama of pk and DSG.

[static pond]

Again who tred tho?

A tank?

[split flume]

ye

[static pond]

Never heard

[glass sleet]

Oh I thought you meant like “he ain’t shi” lol

Tred is a UK tank player.

[static pond]

All I heard is pk was very good last years

I don’t watch na

[glass sleet]

He’s one of the better na tanks yeah. Off tank player.

[static pond]

Na sounds like a mess

[glass sleet]

It is atm.

I guess.

[grave python]

Honestly I watch NA for SSG

SSG Dallas was absolutely great

[static pond]

I loved there halo team

Was hoping for a cod team ngl

[grave python]

I'm kinda disppointed bc SSG isn't as good as they're supposed to are on paper

[split flume]

na is dogshit but it is very funny

[grave python]

SSG on paper is a serious threat in majors

[static pond]

They should have a tournament for the bottom two teams from each region

[split flume]

i would be shocked if na wins a map in japan

well no

top na team beats no. 2 chinese team

probably

but beyond that

nah

[static pond]

Idk about that

[split flume]

they did that last year between the worst NA team and the worst EMEA team and the worst NA team won 3-0

[static pond]

We call it the bread bowl or toilet bowl

[grave python]

Lethal Admiral Ultraviolet were pretty good last year and Sugarfree is not bad at all

Hawk is... Hawk ig

[static pond]

All we need is a sponser for breadsticks

[split flume]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Battle_of_the_Bottoms

[static pond]

Ngl I feel like there not practicing as much

[grave python]

Chris could use an assistant coach imo

[split flume]

chris lowkey a wage thief

[static pond]

But like who do you scrim in na

[static pond]

Uh is there any coaches available?

[grave python]

Idk

[static pond]

Fire name

[split flume]

true

[static pond]

Well from what I remember na is lazy

So idk maybe a kr coach

[grave python]

NA needs Junkbuck

[static pond]

When lip joined na during owl he said they seem lazy lol

Compare to kr

[grave python]

Remember how Junkbuck pushed Al Qadsiah to the top

And TM

[static pond]

Eu Ist lazy tho

[grave python]

U mean "isn't" or "is" ?

[static pond]

Isn’t

[grave python]

I agree but

Junkbuck is just the best coach in the world and I think he could still help NA

[static pond]

Also apparently na coaches aren’t harsh on there players

[grave python]

At least he's the coach for US team

[static pond]

In kr coaches yelling at the players is pretty normal

At least from what I seen in league

[grave python]

Wild

[static pond]

Moon wanted to yell at cr

But step out the room after there match against ongoing gaming or whatvee there called

[static pond]

They don’t berate them they yell
About the mistakes and how they practice it during scrims

[grave python]

This is actually military

[static pond]

If I remember during owl when Atlanta had lip

Gator didt yell at Al

All*

And
Let them play what they wanted

[static pond]

Esports in kr is very serious

Na might be the worse region in most esports besides na ones

[grave python]

Yeah I just didn't know that coaches yell at their team

[grave python]

Didn't NRG win Champions 2025 ?

[static pond]

It normal football coaches do it a lot

[unreal sonnet]

koreans are just mad for competition for no reason

[static pond]

Well if your lucky you be a legend in kr through esports

I
Mean faker getting his own stamp now

[crisp inlet]

RA RAYT RAT'

[glass sleet]

It’s fine. It’s just practice before their mandatory military service.

[sacred gulch]

another morning
another watch of japans dogshit finest

geniunely curious as to why korea left edison in the dust

win on an import team snd they blacklist you ig

[static pond]

Prob thought he wast that good

I kinda agree

[sacred gulch]

idk

hes really good tho

was 2023 just that bad in terms of competetion?

thats a year of pro overwatch i never interacted with

[static pond]

Is that was the year Dallas won I think so

[sacred gulch]

yes

that was edisons trophy

[static pond]

Dragons were on there out and shock was kinda all over the place

[sacred gulch]

i mean it was also last year of owl

[split flume]

because edison is terrible

[sacred gulch]

but surely it was still challenging?

[static pond]

I wanted to say this ngl

But sounds to harsh lol

[sacred gulch]

he was literally most of why dallas won that year

that just collectively shits on that whole
year

[static pond]

Idk I thought it was cuz the meta

[sacred gulch]

i mean he got to play soj

so he played soj

[static pond]

Oh that year

[split flume]

yeah it definitely wasnt fearless diffing the fuck out of every tank on monkey or fielder diffing the fuck out of every flex on kiri or chiyo diffing the fuck out of every main support on lucio

[static pond]

Ya no he wast top 3

[sacred gulch]

here i am hoping i wouldnt get called out

[static pond]

If you wanna see soj look at lip and proper that year

[sacred gulch]

give my boy a chance tho

[split flume]

it took like

[static pond]

Deadass were carrying there teams

[sacred gulch]

he shoulda been dallas fuel tho

[split flume]

6 or 7 maps of proper hard carrying before he got tired

[sacred gulch]

GRANTED

[split flume]

for edison to do anything

[sacred gulch]

kronik and seonjun are nuts

idk how kronik compares to koreans tho

[static pond]

Give it like couple years

[sacred gulch]

hes arguably top 2 to 1 na hs now tho

[static pond]

He prob catch up

[split flume]

korea doesnt have many dedicated hs players tbh

[sacred gulch]

meanwhile edison is smurfing in japan

with heesung

[static pond]

Since most dps will be in military

[split flume]

edison isnt even winning in japan

[static pond]

Merlt

[split flume]

i didnt say none

[static pond]

But nah most hitscans can flex now

[static pond]

Low-key I feel bad for merlt

[sacred gulch]

stalk3r is the best flex dps alive and hes on a losing team rn aswell

[static pond]

Can’t play tracer for shit

[split flume]

proper:

[sacred gulch]

please bench max

[sacred gulch]

id argue its pretty even

[static pond]

I would argue stalker better

[sacred gulch]

i cant say stalker clears proper

but its def even

[split flume]

no one clears proper

[static pond]

In hitscan ye

[sacred gulch]

fdps

[static pond]

Stalker also very good on tracer

[sacred gulch]

still cant carry max frontline

[static pond]

Cuz max is not a IGL

Junbin and shu were the IGL for the team

[split flume]

cr are cowards

they should jsut force main tank comps

[static pond]

Lip Ist playing as much ether

[static pond]

Junbin Ist playing as much

[split flume]

yes

ik

thats why im saying

they should stop being cowards

and js force main tank comps

so they can have their igl in

[static pond]

I think outside the game too

[sacred gulch]

well i got off work an hour ago
time to lay down and listen to the commemtary

[split flume]

zeta is forcing double flex supp comps

[static pond]

Lip aim was hella shaky on his first game back

[split flume]

dallas is forcing main tank comps

[static pond]

That na

[sacred gulch]

these japan teams are odd

why are we brig into sigma bastion sym

juno wuyang would pop off

taiyos entire gameplan is pocketing their bastion

[split flume]

cus its japan

[sacred gulch]

also every tank is in play

why are we on ram

ive never seen sym performance worse than this

from both teams

[static pond]

I would love to see haksal play for Japan and force genji

[split coral]

Felt like a ranked match against smurfs

[sacred gulch]

literally what the fuck was that

bastion getting a quad feed every 30 secomds

????

[split coral]

Lazuli just ran it down frame 1 and got punished for it

[sacred gulch]

“we got deathballed so surely we can do it”

[split coral]

Tt got 2 sym walls before lazuli got 1 off

[sacred gulch]

tt’s sym was still not good tho

idk

idk if i saw a single full tp rotation

wait

ans

isnt that a korean

hold on

yeah hes former varrel

more smurfs

lmao

[split coral]

Almost did when dox started running it down

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[cosmic socket]

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X · Apr 7, 2026, 6:00 PM

[static pond]

Think most a contenders ow got deleted no?

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/pearl_ow3/status/2041294108778451322?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

Pearl 🍉 (@pearl_ow3)

leejaegon was the last main support player with passion

X · Apr 6, 2026, 11:16 PM

[viscid hatch]

True

[torn portal]

ummmm alphayi is right there

[sacred gulch]

i wish you were face to face to me so you can see how I started crying laughing

[torn portal]

if i was real tho i think funnyastro fills the ljg sized hole in my heart well

[sacred gulch]

admiral tho

[torn portal]

and being passionate enough to end up winning stockholm does him favors

[torn portal]

he’s alright

the weaver swap is a little passionate

[sacred gulch]

so passionate hes not even on team estonia

[torn portal]

he shouldn’t be

when he could make a different team a lot better

[sacred gulch]

true

but thats not what world cup is about

estonia has a masters dps

they shouldnt even play

[torn portal]

it’s why the new system exists, it would be really boring for a really good player to be effectively cut out of competing in owwc cus they’re kind the only good player in their country

so making an exception for them makes the tournament better plain and simple

[mortal cipher]

I mean who else has a nickname for a map because of their play on that map

[sullen berry]

Thanks, finally have time to post

[sullen berry]

The oldest pre-contenders footage is now lost media, if it wasn't reuploaded by community accounts who downloaded the VODs from twitch

[cosmic socket]

Idk how I feel about the new system

It feels very mickey mouse but I get it kinda

Being the only relevant player from your country would suck

[sullen berry]

Colourhex

[torn portal]

where’s he from(

[sullen berry]

New Zealand, he tried out for Team Australia instead of competing for Team NZ

I kinda expected it to flop, we had people out of the country managing Team New Zealand

There wasnt enough local support to sustain a bottom level team that was fishing for players who had already retired from ow long ago

[hollow pasture]

when is the next stream?

[sullen berry]

Tonight!

[sullen berry]

<t:1775638800:R>

[static pond]

ngl they should made the fool genji the main

[sullen berry]

Give genji a grenade launcher, too @static pond

[static pond]

smoke bombs would go hard ngl

[sullen berry]

Considering people are expecting massive reworks for Classic heroes during Season 3 onwards

We might get good stuff as well the really experimental ones

[static pond]

i want a comp game mode with qp

like the heros bans and such

[glass sleet]

Just play comp at that point..:

[sullen berry]

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FxTwitter · Apr 7, 2026, 9:27 AM

There do be alternating bangers and stinkers in here

nice logo, 99DIVINE

[static pond]

w

[stark egret]

When is drives

[sullen berry]

have you found it yet

[stark egret]

no my acc banned i can't check

Today or tomorrow?

[storm salmon]

Tomorrow

[sullen berry]

Japanese toilet bowls are so good, all Nyam Gaming had to do was kill the ram one more time and they threw it thinking he was low

might be the first time I've ever noticed a vendetta get so much value

[mortal cipher]

And

Dang *

[static pond]

a other dps hero

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[hazy harness]

how can i copy my ow2 settings to another account?

[sleek cargo]

15 hours for another single box 😭

[sullen berry]

Last chance tonight for the previous esports lootbox for those who still need more hours

[crimson vector]

that guy is a pedo he got mad i blocked him

@odd hornet grow a spine man child having a tantrum. fuck off harassing me

[static pond]

bro i just want traxers

tracers

[static pond]

also 4 battle pass tiers omg

[sullen berry]

Drops go live <t:1775732400:R>

[static pond]

https://x.com/sean_mmills/status/2041986638554001764?s=46

Sean Miller (@sean_mmills)

It’s been a privilege to be part of Overwatch Esports across so many eras. From grinding Reinhardt at game launch (still whiffing shatters…), to interning during the early OWL days, to helping build OWCS into what it is today… every chapter has been unique, but the passion from

X · Apr 8, 2026, 9:08 PM

[static pond]

So what you think of Sean leaving?

[sullen berry]

Nothing serious changes, it's literally in better, sustainable hands since OWL.
People might look back at how cringe he was that one time on Twitter

@wispy yacht @weary talon @plush grail yall look real cute when i look at how great sean miller was as OWL Commissioner 👼

He's leaving this friday. But I won't miss him as much as you do

[static pond]

ye i feel like him leaving is the best

[static pond]

u hear about valorant?

ngl idk why i replyed to tht post

[sullen berry]

Im not all that interested, apart from the analysts & casters from OWL who've had stable esports careers at riot

[static pond]

ngl if i was a caster and riot called me i switch too

[maiden trench]

does anyone have any ow accounts with classic owl rein skins on it willing to buy?

[sullen berry]

I mean it's not complete salvation, just ask uber what he thinks about the caster economy 4 years ago. Not a huge amount has changed since then.
https://youtu.be/0VtxSIJKs94?si=98EUMKigvdApUP1J

[static pond]

Meh idk I feel like I rather wanna go for riot cuz there esports feels more relatable for long term

[sullen berry]

If the choice was to return to full time employment (Richrad having a FT job at Starbucks) or being associated with a riot/netease title to continue a career in esports

Then sign me up for that stable income with optional OT pay if i have to work a public holdiay.

Others don't have that choice

And I respect those who choose to stay with esports for the long term, after the esports winter made everyone adapt or end their esports careers early

[loud hound]

we still doing this 15 hrs for one lanky ass esports box shit im crine

[plush grail]

Fuck sean

[sullen berry]

I barely remember why he made himself out to make some of the worst decisions during OWL's 4th season.

Like he made it so there was maybe half the amount of games so East division played like 4 matches and West played 6 for qualifiers.
Not so different from the format we have now, huh?

Or Midseason Madness in Hawaii

[static pond]

Wast it cuz west had more teams?

[static pond]

I just realize why is there a ow esports discord

[sullen berry]

that's the official ow esports discord

if you were applying to qualify for the very first Stage 1 OWCS, there was no FACEIT integration.
Now it's handled through FACEIT with their Open -> Expert -> Masters -> Promotion/Relegation to qualify for EMEA/NA

[plush grail]

who even cares about ow esports anymore

paris is gone man

hope is lost

[grave python]

[sullen berry]

Luigi, the paris empire has failed

they couldn't even get off the ground

[plush grail]

no no

we're still around

[sullen berry]

whose we

there's literally one fan of the Paris Eternal and he's right here

just like how there's 1 Charge Fan while I've kept the one Seoul Infernal fan trapped in London

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X · Apr 9, 2026, 3:57 AM

[vagrant jacinth]

Returning just to say that was the dumbest shit ever, I hated that

[vagrant jacinth]

Paris barely existed anyway smh, London on top

[sullen berry]

there were worse things to whine about, looking back

[sullen berry]

there is no way we're going to have teams fly to Hawaii ever again after Shock vs Glads finals

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah there was

[vagrant jacinth]

Travelling/homestands were outrageously ambitious

Still not over covid screwing my chance at going to one

[split flume]

ado my goat

[robust patio]

lol

[plush grail]

homestands were never gonna work

[static pond]

Real

None stop traveling

[gaunt shadow]

Does anyone know where to go to apply for tourneys

[sullen berry]

I think those really early concepts of OWL being a draft system where teams can select their rosters at the there might have been potential. @static pond

Like were teams happy to pay to move up to 12 players around the world potetially being travel sick?

Or

Save money by taking a chance and sign local pros in different regions?

That's the very initial concept of Overwatch League according to Montecristo after several talks with Blizzard

[static pond]

Ngl I would like a budget limit to teams to prevent super teams

[sullen berry]

OWCS Winton drops are live now

[static pond]

W

ngl i was to into league of legends i forgot about owcs

[sullen berry]

fair

Cheeseburger is such a klutz, anti-clutch team

as soon as they had a real shot at taking oasis

Farmer just cannot play hazard to the same level as Attack

probably doesn't help that jamelgong who wasn't getting much playtime anyways could have affected their team morale

throwaway tank ban just to play mirror vendette emre hazard

[cursive temple]

that team name making my fatass hungry

[sullen berry]

this will never stop being funny btw

[sullen berry]

japanese casters were very clearly hungry, they were talking about hamburgers a lot

[cursive temple]

LMAOOOO ARE YOU SERIOUS

[sullen berry]

doesn't take any japanese to hear them say "Ham-baguu"

[cursive temple]

😭

[sullen berry]

just the casual first map ban doesn't matter to falcons

[grave python]

3 game paused in the same round btw

[static pond]

Pause

Pause

Pause

Every time I watch kr there a pause

Like bro what the issue

[grave python]

5 pause

BRO

[static pond]

Tf what wrong with his keyboard

I’m here to watch a game

Crazy raccom looks lost

[grave python]

Crazy Raccom

[static pond]

Yes

[terse canyon]

you just look for the small ones in community posts, rarely here

[static pond]

LET GO CRAZY RACCON

[mortal cipher]

T1 circus lol

[static pond]

Idk what cr running

There tank choice making is bothering me

[hardy oracle]

theyre either being cocky or they deadass trained these comps and they just aint working out

[grave python]

Junbin on D.va

Bro seeing main tanks players on D.va makes me depressed asf

[split flume]

REVERSE SWEEP

GIVE IT TO ME

[static pond]

When I saw him run away from stalker and proud ulted it hurt my soul

[mortal cipher]

They haven’t experienced the T1 circus

[robust patio]

reverse sweep?

[mortal cipher]

That elimination diff is giant

[mortal cipher]

Yeppers

[hardy oracle]

deadass

[robust patio]

why is cr weak with stalker

no shu is so huge

[grave python]

Tracer Reaper wtf

[robust patio]

i trust stalker

idk if zarya

is the right play in flashpoint

yea whats zarya gonna do

[split flume]

donghak is thanos

[robust patio]

zero mobility

[grave python]

Imagine if T1 had Shu

[terse canyon]

idk wtf is going on but it's fun

[robust patio]

are u new to esports

[hardy oracle]

t1 circus ig

[robust patio]

cr clowns

[grave python]

CR is in a terrible state

[terse canyon]

new to ow/esports as a whole yeah

[mortal cipher]

T1 is a circus you kinda get used to them looking terrible then locking in

[robust patio]

i dont understand the zarya

like max

pls

[robust patio]

fire, do you have any teams you are rooting for or just watching

[mortal cipher]

They get reverse swept at lck cup now they reverse sweep in Overwatch

[grave python]

CR is NOT qualifying for Champions Clash

[robust patio]

fr

[mortal cipher]

Probably not

[robust patio]

tbh thats how falcons won last year

didnt even qualify

but ended up winning it all

[grave python]

I don't see CR in their current state beating teams like SSG or VP in majors

[robust patio]

fr

no shu is huge

[split flume]

tryna sneak ssg in there

[robust patio]

cr is done for

[hardy oracle]

mahoraga type beat, gotta get their ass beat first

[robust patio]

heesang

tf

are u doing

max pls swap

[split flume]

ajax..

[grave python]

LOL Chorong

[split flume]

oh my days

its beautiful

[robust patio]

ajax

ggs

haz ult emre ult

its gg

oh!!???

emre dead?

doable

[grave python]

DONGHAK ?

[split flume]

DONGHAK

[grave python]

WTF

[robust patio]

?????

DONGHAK

WTF

[split flume]

AND THEY STILL LOST

[hardy oracle]

DONG

[robust patio]

ABSOLUTE

[grave python]

LMAO

[robust patio]

THROW

BRUH

WASTED

[terse canyon]

just watching

[robust patio]

GRAV ULT

OMG

[split flume]

literally

no help

for donghak

[grave python]

Max redemption

[hardy oracle]

#notmydong

[split flume]

EW

[robust patio]

cr wasting so many ults

max pls swap

[split flume]

BANG

[robust patio]

like

[mortal cipher]

Basically

[robust patio]

absolute no combo

finally

swapped

one death

its gg

[grave python]

Mauga mirror

[mortal cipher]

This is just sad

[grave python]

Happy new year 2024

[robust patio]

that reload

[split flume]

aaand stalker carries

[robust patio]

is hilarious

[split flume]

omg bruh

[grave python]

MAX

Ah

[robust patio]

oh!

heesang

[grave python]

I thought he'd die

[robust patio]

almost

[split flume]

gulp

[robust patio]

died again

lol

[hardy oracle]

heesang what was that pulse

gg

[robust patio]

bruh

ggs

[split flume]

BANG

[grave python]

gg T1

[robust patio]

ggs

[split flume]

BANG BANG BANG

[robust patio]

reverse

seeeped

[hardy oracle]

REVERSE SWEEEEEP

[robust patio]

GGGG

CR DYNASTY IS OVER

highlight

[mortal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/t1-zeus-t1-zeus-elmo-fire-worship-gif-173266595262624364

[robust patio]

https://tenor.com/view/t1-t1win-lsx-gif-25014008

[rocky plaza]

The REIGN of Faker OW begins LOL

[rocky plaza]

meanwhile the Falcons Dynasty continues LOL

W/O PROPER OR STALK3R

[rocky plaza]

so falcons was truly the better team after all @robust patio

[unreal sonnet]

damn

cr lost

counter sweep

[mortal cipher]

Fan fact T1 won every esport game they played today League Valorant and Overwatch

[hardy oracle]

called T1 for a reason

[mortal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/faker-lol-league-of-legends-esports-skt-gif-15268572

[unreal sonnet]

whos faker in t1 ow

donghak?

[mortal cipher]

Redemption for when DK reverse swept T1 now T1 reverse swept CR

[unreal sonnet]

whats the main reason why cr is so shit in yall opinion

[mortal cipher]

Probably Donghak since he seems to be the leader but realistically it’s probably Fleta

[unreal sonnet]

but t1 ow never won trophy

[mortal cipher]

Ye but I mean in terms accomplished

[robust patio]

as of now falcons has to win 2more trophies to be better

[robust patio]

noshu

[unreal sonnet]

1 changed supp cannot be that bad

[mortal cipher]

I think lack of Lip hurts as well

[mortal cipher]

I think it’s a loss if Shu lack of lip and Max and Junbin not being in

[humble token]

They should have donghak play more often

They just win more

When he is playing

He played doom in 2026 and made him work

[chrome cloak]

cartifan reference!!!

[chrome cloak]

A clear lack of present IGL
Forcing meta when they can easily be competitive with junbin

those are the 2 reasons

and it isnt a discussion

[unreal sonnet]

watched first set against T1

[chrome cloak]

tbh

[unreal sonnet]

junbin is actually insane

also cr is making much better decisions

when hes playing

like ult first

[chrome cloak]

so junbin is the igl

you can tell if max is in it was shu

[unreal sonnet]

i heard cr vc during finals

junbin was making most calls yeah

[chrome cloak]

yep

[unreal sonnet]

hes both goated igl and player

[chrome cloak]

and im not big on their dps line constantly changing

they need to solidify a roster

one on hand

yes

lip is leaving soon

[unreal sonnet]

constantly changing?

[chrome cloak]

on the other

PLAY THE FUCKING GOAT OF OVERWATCH

[unreal sonnet]

idk why they arent playing him

[chrome cloak]

because his military service is coming up

[unreal sonnet]

hitscans arent like

super meta yeah

[stiff dust]

will lunex win haha

[unreal sonnet]

2 fdps is played often

[stiff dust]

haha...

[unreal sonnet]

but lip can play tracer

sombra too even if its not meta

[chrome cloak]

THE sombra

[unreal sonnet]

almost every 2 fdps comps includes tracer

except vendetta sym/pharah

[chrome cloak]

yea

[humble token]

Seem to start being played less in korea now

[unreal sonnet]

yea

[chrome cloak]

cause surely they'll nerf ven and sym!

surely!

surely sym will finally be nerfed!

[unreal sonnet]

looks like emre is becoming meta

[humble token]

Tracer vendetta only poppular comp

[chrome cloak]

he has been since his buff

[unreal sonnet]

in korea??

[humble token]

Ye

Mostly seen it in korea

[chrome cloak]

can we talk about Knife

[unreal sonnet]

tracer/vendetta with emre/soj looks more popular

[chrome cloak]

like

[unreal sonnet]

hot take anyone whos with proper becomes top player

[chrome cloak]

proper other dps

crusty coach

[unreal sonnet]

proper aim is insane

but thats not the only insane thing

[chrome cloak]

the methodical tracer

[unreal sonnet]

and mechanical

[chrome cloak]

why team fight when push the cart

[unreal sonnet]

😭

[chrome cloak]

woah

woah there

[stiff dust]

let me believe in lunex

thx

[unreal sonnet]

tm winning 3:0 or nah

[chrome cloak]

I doubt they dont

I need cc meta to be like last year

[stiff dust]

dallas vs lunex is just bullying

[chrome cloak]

will Sierra be playable at cc?

[stiff dust]

💔

[frail surge]

always lijang for tm.

[chrome cloak]

better hope there's no Busan 👀

if they go Busan there's a non zero chance lunex have to ban the widow comp

[stiff dust]

cartifan gon force doom on gib

watch

miss 30 empowered punches

still my goat

[chrome cloak]

best doom in the west

[stiff dust]

his hero just sux in pro

[chrome cloak]

true!

dive mt meta next season

nerf dva and zar

bye bye tm

buff ball doom winston

[stiff dust]

xten goat tho

reaper dwmon

[chrome cloak]

TRUE

very happy lunex won

they deserve to be there

[stiff dust]

ssg vs lunex made me cry

like wtf

was the gib game

[chrome cloak]

most gibs have been like that

TL c9ing almost all 3 points

[stiff dust]

hello mauga

[sullen berry]

looks like a kill feed straight outta april fools, watching the reactions online go crazy

[stiff dust]

holy domination

😭

[terse canyon]

im new to ow esports and i swear its like i cant even fuckin blink during team fights

its like looking away from subtitles

[split flume]

this whole region is just tm smurfing

🛏️

[chrome cloak]

reaper might be meta next stage

[stiff dust]

where do we watch china/korean owcs btw

[chrome cloak]

yea I hate watching tm id rather be watching THE toilet bowl of ow history

[stiff dust]

i wanna see weibo play

[split flume]

unter/commander x

[teal hare]

tm just
is different how the hell is this a realthing
this is a 1 team stage for emea

like tms entertaining but this shit looks too easy for them

[chrome cloak]

genuine question how are they entertaining

I need to know

[teal hare]

tms impressive to watch to me because theyre so good
but when no one else is doing as good at the same time it gets stale

[stiff dust]

watch them do the dallas fuel

troll

mercy moira

[chrome cloak]

its like

if we were in a different meta

than

STAGE TWO OF LAST YEAR

id not be complaining

BUT SINCE STAGE 2 OF LAST YEAR ITS BEEN BRAWLSLOP

[teal hare]

the meta has more weird stuff rn its just
tm is simply better then everyone else in emea

like even japan and NA and china have less of a sheer gap

[split flume]

idk tm just be running kiri lu and zarya emre all the time while zeta is running double flex and other dumb shit

[teal hare]

tm to everyone in emea is just like comparing dsg to df in NA

[split flume]

and winning

[chrome cloak]

zeta are entertaining

[teal hare]

only the gaps somehow bigger then that

[chrome cloak]

they have 2 different tanks

and are insanely flexible

tm have the SAME TANK PLAYER CLONED

tvnt and ksaa play the SAME STUFF

[teal hare]

TM is a weird team cause they have 3 players with a hero pool of 2 and lower

and are STILL gonna manage to win

[chrome cloak]

well the meta has been their meta for almost a year

[stiff dust]

what the hell are we watching

making these ppl look like bronze

😭

[chrome cloak]

instead of ram haz of stage 2 its dva zar in stage 3 and now its also mauga horse in this year

we haven't had a good meta since stage 1 of last year

[teal hare]

to you
i like that the meta has other options the end of last year was a literal 1 tank meta

this one has 5

[chrome cloak]

but its the same thing

[split flume]

funnyastro when he cant play lucio

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-miss-failure-fail-gif-24912602

[chrome cloak]

oh moons!

LMFAO

the only difference between stage 2 25 stage 3 25 and this stage 1 is some tanks and adding new characters to the game

we added a hs better than soj

[vivid thorn]

Zary bubble + Emre ult

[teal hare]

theres tms literal only weakness is having one tricks but still being better somehow

[chrome cloak]

at least they have an actual fdps player this stage

[stiff dust]

holy shit taejong

wtf

fucking demon

[split flume]

emea is a desert of flex dps and flex support and tm has two of the best possible imports for those roles

and quartz is the best hitscan in the world

[chrome cloak]

I refuse to call youbi a flex dps player

[chrome cloak]

I disagree on the last part

[stiff dust]

caitlyn

[split flume]

who's better

[teal hare]

hes a coach who is the best sym

[stiff dust]

do u like yae x ei

[teal hare]

whos even better at this exact moment

[stiff dust]

curious

[chrome cloak]

yes

[stiff dust]

badger

[chrome cloak]

I value LAN performances more than stages

at bootcamp he wasnt the best hitscan

he was playing good but not best

[teal hare]

and quartz preformed insane two lans in a row and was one of the two reasons they smoked the last real lan

[chrome cloak]

last real lan was cc

[stiff dust]

navia clorinde

[teal hare]

bootcamp is a significantly less competitive one
which is kinda default when looking at its rulesets

[chrome cloak]

yes

[split flume]

last real lan was stockholm where quartz and tvnt diffed the fuck out of everyone

and symm was still op

[teal hare]

last real lan was the world one where quartz and tvnt destroyed everyone
consistently

they won wholehandedly rounds with mf youbi tracer

bootcamp cannot be called a more important lan then the world stage one for whos probably the strongest in the world atm

[chrome cloak]

but most recent

[teal hare]

that barely matters
two maps out of every set of games (maybe 3) could even be taken seriously from the entire events games
and some of those teams have shown in the stages preformances there where not being taken as serious

[mortal cipher]

There’s a reason he got mvp he completely destroyed them on blizzard world playing Zarya and Dva as the main tank mind you

[teal hare]

peps looked like they where a real team still

and then we saw peps in a real enviroment

[split flume]

funnyastro 6-8 on the juno

[chrome cloak]

beat disguised!

[chrome cloak]

one trick minds

💀

[teal hare]

two t2 teams masquerading as partners

[chrome cloak]

disguised didnt beat tl tl played 1 map vs dsg

[chrome cloak]

true!

asides scyle and zorrow

those 2 are t1 players

[teal hare]

and tred

[chrome cloak]

well

well

I mean

what character of tred

his ram? yes!

how has dva and zar were looking? noooo

its like ziyad

[teal hare]

dont disrespect tred he did consistently good this stage especially for that team

[chrome cloak]

im simply looking at his gameplay

[teal hare]

that team just kept getting forced to play heroes they dont play by the 4 coaches

[chrome cloak]

TRUE

Reinhardt theory but with dsg coaches

[teal hare]

when your forced to play stuff your not normally playing ON GAMEDAYS

[wicked quarry]

bro

[chrome cloak]

1 more firestrike

1 more coach

[wicked quarry]

who hurt twisted minds this tourney

[chrome cloak]

that'll help

[teal hare]

mfs are tryna pull a shanghai dragons type shit

[chrome cloak]

well unlike Shanghai they dont have the best ow player

[wicked quarry]

guys today upper semifinal

then what

[teal hare]

og shanghai hold the record for the longest losing streak in any form of professional sport ever

[chrome cloak]

this is true

[teal hare]

all because the coach was that ass

[weary talon]

There’s a semifinal today?

[chrome cloak]

its pos weekend???

[wicked quarry]

upper semifinals rn its twisted vs qadisiya

what is this channel even for

[chrome cloak]

then they got the arguably best ow coach

[teal hare]

tm and zeta are kinda easily the best two teams rn though

[teal hare]

yeeo

[chrome cloak]

and the best player of all time

later the best genji oat

[weary talon]

Well you know twisted is gonna win but I didn’t know we were that far already

[chrome cloak]

there's 4 teams in pos

[wicked quarry]

hopefully

[chrome cloak]

cause there's 6 teams per region

[teal hare]

except for asia aka korea

which gets 8 still

[weary talon]

Good

[teal hare]

everyone else is 6 now

[weary talon]

IMO Japan and China should merge as a region

China is such a fraudulent region

[teal hare]

that wont happen and cant happen with how the servers are and deals with china for things

china has its own server

[grave python]

Idk about that one

[chrome cloak]

thats not the issue

[teal hare]

its not the main one but them having there own server is apart of the deal that also has them having a region in the esport

[weary talon]

I know with the firewall and stuff it’s always tricky to get Chinese players to compete outside of China but in vacuum it would help Chinese ow immensely

[chrome cloak]

politically speaking it'll never happen

[stiff dust]

were yall disappointed in dsg

[weary talon]

It’s just the spark core dominating everyone and team Cc being okay and the rest are plumbers

[chrome cloak]

who wasnt

[grave python]

Idc about Disguised ngl

[weary talon]

It would be good if they could go up against another bum region

[stiff dust]

there were forced on meta and they were not comfortable at all

[grave python]

I'm mostly disappointed in SSG cause they're a real threat on paper

[robust patio]

fr everyone in twitch chat when

went

WTFFF

?!????

[chrome cloak]

true

[grave python]

I still believe in SSG

[chrome cloak]

I do too!

[stiff dust]

ssg vs dallas was a war

peak

😭

[grave python]

SSG Dallas was absolute cinema

[stiff dust]

its so close

[chrome cloak]

it was a reverse sweep by technicality alone

[stiff dust]

idk who wins

[grave python]

Just Chris could use an assistant coach imo

[stiff dust]

for finals

dsg shows forcing meta isnt always optimal

like they had so many winnable games

[terse canyon]

what do assistant coaches do in esports? general question, im new

[chrome cloak]

and cr

I dont care if we stopped playing max

that still happened

[terse canyon]

i assume discuss more focused strategies, like a head coach says here we play dive, then assistant coach goes into how each player plays dive

[weary talon]

I think it mostly depends on each team , sometimes the assistant coach does aim coaching for the hitscan player but it’s really up to each team

Sometimes you have teams with 4 coaches that are still ass and sometimes you have teams with no coaches that dominate

[grave python]

TM lmao

No coach

Best team in the world

[terse canyon]

thats fair

[weary talon]

For real

Im hoping we get a zeta vs TM grand finale

[chrome cloak]

in this current meta

[grave python]

I kinda wished Junkbuck would coach an NA team

[chrome cloak]

this depends on season 2 pn

if they once again refuse to acknowledge the problem characters

[pallid steeple]

hello I’ve never watched esports before who do you guys recommend i watch

[mortal cipher]

It was a banger tho

[mortal cipher]

Depends the region

[weary talon]

Which they’ll do but i think regardless of what happens there’s a 75% chance that kiri Lucio will be meta again

[chrome cloak]

the problem characters are emre

dva

zar

zar

dva

[pallid steeple]

is there a Toronto team that’s the biggest city closest to me

[mortal cipher]

Not anymore

[chrome cloak]

a bit late

[terse canyon]

lol not anymore

[weary talon]

Zar honestly

[pallid steeple]

unfortunate.

[weary talon]

Not that much

[chrome cloak]

spotter needs to be gone

[pallid steeple]

are there ANY canada teams

[terse canyon]

team canada in world cup soon i assume

[weary talon]

Nerf vendetta and you won’t see zar as much

[chrome cloak]

there are Canadian players!

[weary talon]

M8ball the goat

[mortal cipher]

Idk if there is a Canadian team

[chrome cloak]

there always is

its Canada

[pallid steeple]

canada 🥳

[weary talon]

Im rooting for team Israel !

[mortal cipher]

lol

[robust patio]

canada wont reach top 3 now

[pallid steeple]

well.

[mortal cipher]

Probably not

It’ll probably be Korea China USA and KSA

[robust patio]

even when xqc prime he still got bullied by koreans

not usa

either ksa korea

china hell no

[weary talon]

Was it Sweden or Finland that were the black cat of last owwc ?

[mortal cipher]

I was giving a top 4 maybe

[chrome cloak]

Finland

[robust patio]

finland is strong

yes

[mortal cipher]

Oh I forgot Guxue won’t be attending

[robust patio]

yea

[mortal cipher]

Ye China is rip

[robust patio]

finland might beat china

idk

[weary talon]

lige is good guys

[mortal cipher]

China still might be good just not a contender

[mortal cipher]

Yeah but he’s not Guxue is the thing

[weary talon]

Ksa looks unbeatable

[chrome cloak]

in this meta

[weary talon]

Yeah well guxue is a Winston one trick

Lige can play more than 2 heroes

[mortal cipher]

Only because the last few years has been Winston even tho he can play more than just Monke

[chrome cloak]

^

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[chrome cloak]

like

[weary talon]

Winston and doom sure

[chrome cloak]

he is not a 1trick

he can play horse too

hes a mt

[weary talon]

Yeah but you’re never like damn I wish I had guxue on orisa rn

His Mauga is mid too

[chrome cloak]

wrong

[robust patio]

meta dependent

[chrome cloak]

ewc

his coaches banned his worse on a circuit iirc

why?

dont know

he was doing good in the horse ram matchup

[robust patio]

ksa without jaewoo and simple

[chrome cloak]

brawlslop 1 tricks

• haku

[robust patio]

they cant do anything

[chrome cloak]

LMFAOO

[weary talon]

I mean that’s the thing

[chrome cloak]

they dont have a ms

[robust patio]

they strong in poke meta tho

[chrome cloak]

or an actual flex dps player

[weary talon]

He’s good at other mts and phenomenal at Winston and doom but he’ll go up against people like tvnt or vestola

[chrome cloak]

WE CHOSE VESTOLA?

[weary talon]

I don’t know but he was chosen already and he’s really good

So I don’t see why he wouldn’t be taken again

[chrome cloak]

oh at owwc

my bad 😭

[weary talon]

You thought ewc ?

[chrome cloak]

no cc

tho ewc I take guxue over vestola 100 to 0

[weary talon]

That’s crazy to me

He’s legit

A top 2 Emea tank

I think he’s better than ziyad

[chrome cloak]

the only reason vp beat weibo

is because

GUXUES COACHES

SOLD

[weary talon]

What was the story ?

[chrome cloak]

I cant send images

but

they banned his horse

he was doing good into someone in horse vs ram

[weary talon]

Ive noticed that some Asian teams have some questionable hero bans

Zeta last year was so unbearable

With all their stupid bans

Same applies to Weibo ig

[chrome cloak]

they then fired yangxiaolong

3 days after ewc ended

he was gone

im not joking

[weary talon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-kill-that-boy-speedy-moments-w-speed-speed-clip-gif-16493548970782765043

[chrome cloak]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Zhang_Zhihao

you can check

[weary talon]

lol

Some errors are fatal

[chrome cloak]

rightfully so

is tm over yet

[robust patio]

OW world CUP
2016

1. KOR 2. Russia 3. Sweden 4. Finland

2017

1. KOR 2. Canada 3. Sweden 4. France

2018

1. KOR 2. China 3. Canada 4. Uk

2019

1. USA 2. China 3.KOR 4. France

2020 ~ 2022 (covid)

2023

1. KSA 2. China 3. Finland 4. KOR

2024~2025 (Blizzard broke af)

2026

im predicting Kor ksa china finland

[chrome cloak]

Korea #1

[robust patio]

if it favors ksa meta then

korea has no chance

[teal hare]

any guessses for vp vs gk

[pallid spoke]

Rupal suspended till 2027

[teal hare]

my guess is 3/2 but VP maybe
it could go either way i think'

[pallid spoke]

Honestly good decision from blizz

[robust patio]

insane

i cant wait to see the korean rosters

let me make them for fun

Crusty(Zeta) Ninek(Falc) Moon(CR)

Bernar(Zeta) Someone(Falc)
Checkmate(Falc) Heesang(CR)
Shu(Zeta) Viol2t(Zeta)

idk why but violets been doing so good this year

[clear dome]

YEAR TWO OF TUNING INTO OWCS

IM EXCITED

IM LEARNING THINGS

YIPPIE

[robust patio]

noice what have u learned

[clear dome]

the names of the teams !

thats about it !

i cant even remember the players bro but i want to, i like space station and liquid, im trying to remember but there was a player i fuckin HATED last year

[frail surge]

is vp chopped now

[clear dome]

VEGA

I FUCKING HATE VEGA

VEGA SUCKS ASS

[weary talon]

Chopped huzz I fear

[frail surge]

damn

[weary talon]

https://tenor.com/view/shaquille-o'neal-shaq-time-out-stop-stop-it-gif-8464852630431003027

[clear dome]

bro last year when i was watching the championships vega did nothing to help the team 💔🫩

[frail surge]

vp is ass rn what happend.

[grave python]

VP needs a true hitscan player

They'd better get Xzo for stage 2

[pallid spoke]

fucked up what his agent did

[grave python]

Yeah this is sad

[chrome cloak]

Kevin is washed

[proven wind]

w pause

[chrome cloak]

no Illios

Ilios means vp have a true best map

then they can go double flex

[clear dome]

why pause what the flip

[frail surge]

I put 1k on vp even though I like geekay better but ig they just washed

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-pufferfish-cat-puffer-fish-ai-pufferfish-cat-ai-ai-gif-3219711934296360561

[grave python]

I donlt think he’s washed

But he’s forced to play hitscan since seicoe is also a flex dps

Even if he already played hitscan with Gladiators I’m still not a fan of Kev hitscan

This is why VP needs a true hitscan player and they’ll get better

[frail surge]

Ive lowk only seen him play emre in this season

These pauses are constant

Atleast we get more drops time

[proven wind]

do we know why or

i cant hear stream so idk if they said anything

[frail surge]

Holy

Stick

[clear dome]

why are we shooting zar bubble

what am i not understanding

[pallid spoke]

it’s good if ur comp can burst her

[clear dome]

alright

i just saw kev dump emre ult into a bubble and i was confused why he would do that 💀

[pallid spoke]

She can’t walk even if she has charge if she has no bubbles so

[clear dome]

that makes a lot of sense, might as well burst them fast if the dps is high enough

my hard stuck gold ass is still figuring it out

[pallid spoke]

It’s just coordination issue in ranked

but a lot of the times u just shoot the 2nd bubble zarya can’t play the game

she either dies or u force all important supp cds and u can just win the fight via ults or smthn

[clear dome]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

solo queue my hell

i wanna learn whats worth comming and whats just me saying shit lmfao

thankfully ash said she’d help me w that

[pallid spoke]

just swap bastion or ask for bastion swap into zarya shit is free

[frail surge]

This meta is so boring lowk

[grave python]

Blizzard must destroy Zarya

Boring ass character

[frail surge]

Yeah like wreaking ball is way more fun to watch but ball meta will never happened lmao

[grave python]

It happened and he was meta for months in 2025

[frail surge]

Damn

But yeah zarya is so ass

[grave python]

In fact he was meta from the season they introduced perks to mid season 19 when he lost 50 armor

[grave python]

I'd rather watch Mauga mirror over fucking Zarya mirror

[frail surge]

Yeah Shes also so annoying to play against normally

W geekay

[grave python]

Finally a close match

[terse canyon]

and in my diamond games shes a perma ban 😭

[indigo estuary]

How was tm aq? At work can’t watch

close ?

[static pond]

Crazy raccoon lost im so sad