esports-discussion

[sullen berry]

I think Saudi Esports Federation is just doing it for the engagement bait

[stray jackal]

Seicoe was at least better then him, we can agree on that right?

[sullen berry]

They know that Falcons had their cinderella run from 4th place Korea in Stage 2
Gets a chance during LCQ which all other regions were invited, PAID and most refused to participate.
EWC LCQ is full of local T4-level teams in Saudi instead
Surprise, Team Falcons wins it all

[sullen berry]

Respect for Seicoe having to put up with Youbi honestly, seeing as he was constantly being coach and the better dps duo with Quartz

[stray jackal]

Yea.. and now he got booked

Big thanks for that

Jaewoo is also really good though..

[carmine igloo]

I hope seicoe gets picked up by someone

[stray jackal]

Imagine a Bernar alphayi seicoe trio

Ooo

[thorny gazelle]

With Seicoe in they wouldn'tve won worlds

[stray jackal]

Heyyy we found a youbi-boy

[carmine igloo]

Aren’t both alphayi and seicoe flex dps?

[stray jackal]

yea

[carmine igloo]

Bernar hitscan

Let’s go

[stray jackal]

DVA, tracer echo

[carmine igloo]

Get him on 76

[carmine igloo]

Peak

[thorny gazelle]

Youbi is very good at coaching in game and mechanically 2nd best sym in the world, if TM play seicoe AlQad wins worlds

[stray jackal]

One of the best dva's, one of the best tracers, and a really good echo

[thorny gazelle]

Seicoe in a vacuum better player that's true

[stray jackal]

Who's first?

[thorny gazelle]

Checkmate

[carmine igloo]

Yeah not denying that, they just need a hitscan too lol

[stray jackal]

That random sym otp?

[stray jackal]

Aight

[thorny gazelle]

Checkmate is mechanically better but commswise worse

[stray jackal]

Idk, get pge in there or something :3

[thorny gazelle]

Evens out overall

And checkmate can also play other heroes

[carmine igloo]

😭 yk that might out-aura the other team

[stray jackal]

Yea.. youbi is kind of stuck in the mei-sym

[carmine igloo]

Well that’s just due to a yk language barrier

[thorny gazelle]

Bad argument

[carmine igloo]

How?

[stray jackal]

Aura's all over you

[thorny gazelle]

Youbi also not native English speaker

[stray jackal]

SirMajed couldn't talk at all when at team falcons..

Yea, youbi speaks saudi :)

Just like 3/5 of the starting lineup

[carmine igloo]

But most of his team can speak Arabic

[stray jackal]

Fastro and Simple can't (I think)
Thats it though

[thorny gazelle]

60% so they do Comms in English

[carmine igloo]

Youbi defo has more English in him than checkmate

Just watch the interviews

I’ve never seen checkmate speak English in an interview

[thorny gazelle]

I don't watch the interviews

[carmine igloo]

Well then there we go

[thorny gazelle]

From comm check in games checkmate English seems fine though

[stray jackal]

Fine, but not good?

[thorny gazelle]

But I genuinely don't think any player comms as much as youbi that's his strength

[thorny gazelle]

Fine as in not keeping him back

[carmine igloo]

Either way the point is youbi was NOT the best player in the region last year

By a million miles

[stray jackal]

Did you see the ssg comm check? No one was talking for a good 30 seconds

[thorny gazelle]

Ye that means the team doesn't have a leader

[stray jackal]

Thats true

[thorny gazelle]

Well ye he wasnt even best on his team

[stray jackal]

Was funny though :)

This argument was between seicoe and youbi, not youbi vs the rest of the players

[carmine igloo]

Well admittedly they were so mentally boomed at this point 😭

[thorny gazelle]

Ye exactly

[stray jackal]

Seicoe is better at the divey heroes, youbi is better at the flex dps heroes that are stationary (ish)

[carmine igloo]

I think a team would prefer to have seicoe than youbi bc he’s a more flexible player, end of argument. Hes better at tracer which is played more regularly than sym (generally at least)

One of the best echo players too

[stray jackal]

Idk who the competition is there

Heesang, topdragon..

Alphayi

Thats about it

[carmine igloo]

I think seicoe took it to them when we saw echo being played last iirc

[thorny gazelle]

I think the reason they got rid of Seicoe is because he doesnt play Genji

which for his role is kinda important

[stray jackal]

That cannot be the reason

[carmine igloo]

Well neither does youbi

Fr it makes no sense

[thorny gazelle]

It does, they have youbi for the sym mei type heroes then they need a flex dps who can play tracer echo venture genji

[stray jackal]

I don't think the meta is even shifting to genji right now

[thorny gazelle]

A year is long

[carmine igloo]

Atp just take backbone if you want a sym/mei/genji player lol

[stray jackal]

Omg..

[thorny gazelle]

Why would they downgrade

Youbi is better sym than backbone

[stray jackal]

Jaewoo is a better tracer, but a worse echo

[thorny gazelle]

and they got jaewoo

[thorny gazelle]

ye but he also plays genji

and hes worse at venture I think

[carmine igloo]

Hmm I think backbone in spitfire vs youbi in tm is an interesting debate. Forget how the teams did, just look at their contributions

[stray jackal]

I have never seen wooventure

[thorny gazelle]

but overall he slightly better

[thorny gazelle]

yes but backbone is washed

[stray jackal]

Right now..

[carmine igloo]

Yeah yeah ofc

[stray jackal]

Otherwise viol2t is still the goat

[carmine igloo]

I’m just saying

It’s an interesting debate

[stray jackal]

Still a fan of him though :D

[thorny gazelle]

find it hard to compare different times

[stray jackal]

Fair enough

[carmine igloo]

Valid

[brave briar]

Hi!
I’m new to Overwatch 2 (only a few hours played), I mainly play Soldier 76.
I’m looking for French players (beginners or chill) to play together, improve, and have fun without pressure.
If you’re French and interested, DM me!

(I can also communicate in English if needed.)

[grave python]

Nah

With more partner teams I doubt

[teal hare]

They has seico for tracer but youbi has a decent tracer now so they needed a proper fdps to play who youbi doesn’t generally

[thorny gazelle]

Youbi tracer is manageable but its below the level u want from tracer at the top tier

[teal hare]

It holds its own against falcons and stops sym bans from killing youbi immediately
Which was literally all seicoe was good at was tracer primarily so there wasn’t much of a reason to have a tracer specialist if the time you’d need tracer you have one that’s at least capable anyway but no other fdps

[thorny gazelle]

Well ye his tracer is fine for when sym banned, but its a meta in which sym/mei have no place id rather have a seicoe or jaewoo in tracer

[teal hare]

True but in a meta without sym or Mei
I’d rather just flat out have jaewoo

Seicoe is just a less flexible fdps then jaewoo

[grave python]

What do y’all think about the format

6 teams in some regions is trash

I still think majors and worlds will be great

They’d better make a great format for worlds

[thorny gazelle]

thats what I said

thats why they went for jaewoo over seicoe

[thorny gazelle]

Its good for NA, not for EMEA I feel like

[grave python]

It’s even worse for NA

4 teams are already qualified

[thorny gazelle]

NA had the same 2 teams finishing bottom every stage

EMEA had atleast 7 teams with some relevance

[grave python]

Yeah but I don’t think they needed to reduce the slot

This is not how esports grow

[thorny gazelle]

Ye I was actually hoping they would go to 9 teams like Korea and made every week 2 games

for each team

[teal hare]

It would make sense if it didn’t have the direct downside of there essentially being less actual games played during owcs in any region outside of Korea
For skill it@made sense na and emeas bottom 2 where very clearly bottom 2 more often then not

[thorny gazelle]

this is just not true

in EMEA only stage 1 7th had 1 win

in stage 2 7th EMEA had 11 map wins

for NA 7th did have 1 win every stage

[grave python]

We’ll see anyway

This is the format we’ll have the whole season

They’ll change it only for 2027

[teal hare]

How many match wins did stage 2 7th have
Cause you can’t count map wins for one and not the other (making it 5-11 instead of 1-11 like your saying it is)
But this just one makes everywhere outside of Asia have less happening and gives less chances for new talent to grow and prove themselves

[thorny gazelle]

2 wins both stage 2 and 3

[thorny gazelle]

but like saying EMEA was 6 teams region was just not correct

[glass sleet]

Or less

[teal hare]

Good news
We finally know what’s happening with stalk3r
Bad news
Falcons have made it so if any Korean teams want him they have to buy out the contract from falcons where if any emea or na teams want him they can have him for free
Geekay made an offer already of 10k a month and stalk3r denied due to the pay of other members on geekay in comparison (from what we know)
So a teams gonna have to either pull stalk3r into North America or emea or we won’t see him till the contract expires unless t1 or cr wanna make a big payout

[teal hare]

If less slots ever happen the esports officially dead
6 is like the absolute least that@could be reasonably done any less and they essentially admit it’s dead

[glass sleet]

No they said more partners. I said it less to that

Not guaranteed to have more

[teal hare]

Oh yea
Honestly I’d be happier with only 3 slots for partners cause rn it means some regions only have 2 slots to even compete for to get to owcs

[glass sleet]

They made it 6 slots because they want to include faceit league

[warm warren]

next year at the 2027 overwatch championship series I'm going to be the starting dps for the SanFransico Shock

[teal hare]

I just realized did Sakura get hoed by the rule changes
They top 4d but are still gonna have to qualify again while two brand new teams get those slots

[grave python]

Well I hope NRG comes back next year

[warm warren]

me too

[grave python]

It’s sad that they weren’t picked for the partner program

And OWCS needs sponsors

[warm warren]

never really recovered from the "McCree" incident imo, (I know it was OWL at the time), but speaking off OWL swapping to ow2 before the playerbsae had it was a mistake, many fans never got back into the esports after that

[glass sleet]

Yeah ow has no sponsors. Look at Valorant for example, their streams are full of sponsors and commercials even. You would get a commercial like you’re watching TV between games.

They also constantly promote org skin bundles.

[pure bramble]

#FreeStalk3r

[teal hare]

If an na or emea team offered enough for him he would be
Or a Korean team buys out the contract from falcons

[static pond]

So stalker on contract jail still? lol

[teal hare]

Yep
And now we know the exact details of the contract mail

[cosmic socket]

hes officially off contract?

i havent seen any official proof yet

[static pond]

We need gambling n crypto
Sponsors….

[teal hare]

Aka falcons being shitty org to no suprise and tryna force him to either wait it out or get out of Asia for at least 1 stage

[teal hare]

No he’s in contract jail

[cosmic socket]

rip

[static pond]

Long ass contract

[teal hare]

Falcons contract is still there and in order for him to go on another team either
An Asia team (t1 zeta or cr) have to buy out the contract
Or any western team can just have him for free if he agrees

[static pond]

My guess they tryna over charge kr teams

[teal hare]

They’re tryna only charge kr teams

Not just over
Only
Any@western team doesn’t need to pay anything to falcons

[static pond]

Ye but prob tryna ask for to much

[cosmic socket]

i doubt hed leave korea tho

i dont think he was ever on a mixed roster

[static pond]

Dallas picks him up then leaves Dallas the next day to join t1

Hella funny how scare they are if letting stalker go to a kr team

Of*

[cosmic socket]

picking up merit in the first place was just such a strange choice

[teal hare]

He almost did
Geekay offered 10kusd a month to come over but he wanted a bit more

[cosmic socket]

and remember they initially benched proper when they picked up merit

[teal hare]

If Dallas haz more money then Geekay does maybe
You’d have to outdo 10k usd a month to do that at least rn

[teal hare]

Which is still wild like
Best two fdps in the world and one of@them was gonna end up in contract jail

[cosmic socket]

i doubt dallas has money

if they had money they wouldnt let ssg get ppl like hawk lenny or uv

[teal hare]

Not that kinda money that’s for sure

Liquid or tm are the only teams who could maybe afford it
Tm wouldn’t do that at all

And liquid probably aren’t changing roster at all

[static pond]

Hard to tell what going on with Dallas

Still think ntmr should get a parther slot

Along with varrel

[teal hare]

Ntmr would have to move to emea now

[teal hare]

They’re literally japans only partner slot

[cosmic socket]

ntmr is just too grassroots

which sucks cuz i would 100% buy ntmr cosmetics

[teal hare]

Disguised toast has an ow team in the partner stuff

[static pond]

Y’all see the rivals stuff tho

[cosmic socket]

no

[teal hare]

You cannot get less corporate then a literal random YouTubers team

[cosmic socket]

i dont concern myself with slop

[static pond]

They have a bigger prize pool

😭

[teal hare]

I avoid looking into there pro stuff cause the games to unstable orgs still don’t want that smoke with bigger prize pools

[static pond]

Like third n 4th get 100k

[teal hare]

Multiple orgs pulled out fully from rivals already anyway

[cosmic socket]

jesus

[static pond]

Ye tjay cuz there doing a parther ship program

[teal hare]

Regardless of how much it pays the games so unstable they don’t see it as worth the investment

[static pond]

That*

They prob waiting to see who gets accepted

[grave python]

3,000,000 right ?

[pure bramble]

Stalk3r needs to be let go by Falcons

let that man fly free

[ruby oracle]

They are fully funding the 3 mill

Overwatch got 500k for the finals alone through crowdfunding

Which is more sustainable

Additionally the midseason was 1.06 mil

[glass sleet]

It sucks he isn’t free yet but business is business

[pure bramble]

classic Falcons

they just keep giving me reasons to not like them 😭

I don’t even like Chiyo or Proper

[glass sleet]

Also him declining (allegedly) 10k$ salary because it’s not fair to the other players is dumb. Like you get paid for your value not for what others are getting paid for. You don’t see Ronaldo or Messi getting paid the same as the other do you

[glass sleet]

A contract is a contract tho

[pure bramble]

no other org is pulling ts

glad he’s got options tho

[glass sleet]

Cuz no other org has stalker

[pure bramble]

nobody deserves it as much as Stalk3r

[glass sleet]

You ain’t doing that with freaking idk…some other dps unless it’s stalker or proper

[glass sleet]

I hope he goes to T1

[pure bramble]

it’s obvious why his contract is like that

Falcons know their odds are shot if Stalk3r goes to another Korean team

[glass sleet]

Sports do that shit all the time. It’s not new

[pure bramble]

it hurts their odds of winning and qualifying

[glass sleet]

Their odds are shot cuz freaking merit sucks

[pure bramble]

he’s too hot of a ticket

[glass sleet]

Duh. He was the best fdps when he stopped playing

Literally the best

[pure bramble]

best fdps and one of the best hitscans

all in one

[glass sleet]

Then they had a MASSIVE downgrade with merit

[pure bramble]

wonder why

[glass sleet]

No glaze but bro is perfect

[pure bramble]

i heard it was on Proper that Stalk3r got benched

[glass sleet]

Bro is better on hs than the hs otp they have

[pure bramble]

because they were supposed to split playtime so that they both wouldnt have to play hitscan

[glass sleet]

Nothing was confirmed was it? I don’t know what happened but my guess is he either doesn’t wanna hs or proper was being a little bitch

[glass sleet]

Funny how the worst dps out of the three is guaranteed a spot

[pure bramble]

Falcons just a shitty org

padded that roster out too much

[robust patio]

MILITARY DISCHARGED TMRRRR

[pure bramble]

YOU?

who’s that

[teal hare]

I don’t think he wants to be treated like this messiah of teams
He probably just wants to be a team member not this like “we pay you big bucks you must Cary”

[teal hare]

The latter her is very very possible

[glass sleet]

It’s not you must carry. It’s you deserve your worth since you’re better. I

It’s just contracts…you get paid more or less depending on what the org thinks you’re worth

It’s in every sport

[robust patio]

mE

[pure bramble]

CONGRATS

[mortal cipher]

Niceu

[sacred gulch]

champ TOMMOROW

[glass sleet]

축하해요

[mortal cipher]

[glass sleet]

Apex legends with being over 5 years old and currently 200k viewers on twitch. Nice

[flint wolf]

#esports-news message question to anyone who knows
does this mean illinois state no longer offers overwatch as one of its collegiate esport things/clubs?

[sullen berry]

Finally, you can actually start watching games!
Starting with bootcamp next month?

[robust patio]

i may watch it LIVE

I PROB BE ON LAN

[sullen berry]

According to the article i linked, it seems like they dont have enough players to continue with the current roster.

ISU has scaled down a lot. Cutting the budget in the esports program doesn't mean the club is dead, though probably won't invest as much time or money into it.

This announcement of their varsity program ending goes all the way back in May last year

[flint wolf]

bet bet, thanks! that's a bummer

[sullen berry]

Rip some of the best NA players to come from it - Rupal, Lethal, Reiner

Lets not forget my goat Hydron

!jumbo

[robust patio]

no

[static pond]

https://x.com/fnatic_jp/status/2012729463243755749?s=46

FNATIC JAPAN (@FNATIC_JP)

ALGS x @cfm_miku ⁉️

X · Jan 18, 2026, 3:31 AM

Apex getting miku while we got a guy screaming a other one

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/i/status/2012535586347745782

Chengdu Hunters Facts (@CDHuntersFacts)

Pineapple confirmed on Bilibili that he will be staying with JDG.

X · Jan 17, 2026, 2:40 PM

So from I'm guessing Team CC (unsponsored purple wolf team) has probably been acquired by JDG or they just disbanded and bought out on the Chinese minimum wage

[mortal cipher]

Makes sense that the second best team Chinese team get one of the top 4 Chinese org overall

[sullen berry]

Yup, and Milk Tea need to step up their game for any shot at 2nd place while Once Again's main competition was ROC.

Just wait for a meta where Eileen and (A)meng will actually pop off, though its looking like it might take dumb luck instead of good seeding to do that early in the year

[mortal cipher]

I was thinking maybe they replace ROC but Team CC makes most sense to getting locked up by JDG since they were consistently top
2/3 in China

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/mrmcrohan/status/2012729895059873896?s=61

Numba1HanBinFan (@MrMcRohan)

on EVERYONES soul SSG is winning 2026
SUGARBRON
HAWK NOWITZKI
SHAQUILLE LE'THEAL
ADMIRAL IVERSON
UV GARNETT
Kellan's here in my heart so pic related

X · Jan 18, 2026, 3:32 AM

[viscid hatch]

Why would you even want kellan

Genuine question

Mid at everything

I’d rather someone who has their own strength

So you have a win condition

[wise orbit]

can vp announce pls :DDDDD

i want to know who the hitscan will be :P

[teal hare]

The name pun

That’s literally why it’s there

[glass sleet]

It’s most likely xzodyal

[teal hare]

The gambling man’s hitscan

[wise orbit]

yea prolly xzo

[teal hare]

How good you preform is entirely dependant on his wifi at the@time

[wise orbit]

i was thinking lbbd7 but hes going to another team i dont remeber which it was

[glass sleet]

Rumors are Galaa back on ms?

[wise orbit]

i think a korean import like ade or osmething could be good tho

[glass sleet]

Geekay are rumored but it’s just all rumors

[wise orbit]

i dont trust xzo

[glass sleet]

But he good doe

[wise orbit]

i know hes good but like

idk

guy cant win

he has the lose gene

[glass sleet]

It’s fine. If he joins VP, he’ll move in and won’t have shit Spanish internet

[wise orbit]

well yea

i dont think vp would risk that happening to them lol

[glass sleet]

I guess that would also mean Landon will move to Poland

[wise orbit]

they were in serbia last season i think

[glass sleet]

If he plays for VP

[glass sleet]

Oh I thought it was Poland

Xzodyal, Kevster, eisgnom, Landon, Fixa. Sounds great.

[wise orbit]

yeah

[viscid hatch]

Phew

[wise orbit]

xzo is like the only other eu alternative no

if they're not getting lbdda

[viscid hatch]

Shockwave?

[wise orbit]

i guess

[viscid hatch]

He’s past his prime a bit though

[wise orbit]

he was fine last season but they dropped him

maybe they re-sign him but i think its unlikely

lbbda rumoured to go to geekay

except xzo there's no one else in eu that they could get that matches the rest of the team in skill

[teal hare]

His wifi
Hence him being the gambling man’s hitscan
He’s arguably one of@the best but his preformance is entirely set on a thing he cannot control at all

[wise orbit]

not that i can think of at least

[viscid hatch]

If kevster has a down year again, is it ACTUALLY over for him?

[wise orbit]

i think it's either xzo or a korean import i'd be surprised by anything else

[teal hare]

Geng was literally living and dying by xzos wifi during the tournament
They would have probably gotten lan if his wifi stayed

[wise orbit]

its over for him when he decides to retire

hes good enough and has enough recognition by good teams that he will have no issue getting on good teams and perform at the top level

so its only rly a matter of if he wants to keep going

[cosmic socket]

he also hasnt been on a good team yet

like he beat virtus.pro and wouldve made lan if it werent for internet with a washed backbone and crispy

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/2013017438946828475?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

ben 🧚🏻‍♂️🦐 (@achtungbabeyy)

aw man…

X · Jan 18, 2026, 10:35 PM

NOOOOO

[teal hare]

NOOOOOOOOO

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/pge-pge4-overwatch-streamer-overwatch-2-gif-3156427757316467079

actual heartbreak

i hope its bait

[sacred gulch]

[teal hare]

It’s probably not the odds are decently high he’s out of uni now and moving back home

And nobody wants an import from aus
And the oce scene is more then likely dead next year as well

[lean cape]

As a continuation of what I posted here a while ago, who are the best teams to be following?

Because I'm pretty clueless about the esports side of the game

[glass sleet]

You mean what are the strongest teams rn?

Team falcons, Crazy raccoon, T1, Twisted minds, Spacestaion gaming.

Other teams aren’t confirmed yet with their rosters so can’t say

For sure

[teal hare]

Liquid

Forgot liquid

Otherwise we don’t know who’s notable

[glass sleet]

Did I?

TL’s roster is confirmed?

[teal hare]

VARREL are the only other team that’s notable but it’s more cause they’re the only real team from there region
Same with weibo and cc

[teal hare]

There’s been 0 changes as far as everyone’s been able to tell

[glass sleet]

I don’t know where I heard rupal got dropped

[teal hare]

I don’t remember seeing g rupal have a lft

So I kinda don’t think so
I also heard someone try to argue uv was going to liquid instead of rupal which just isn’t true at all objectively

[glass sleet]

I mean it’s not true cuz ssg already confirmed

[teal hare]

Yea that’s why I said objectively ain’t true

[glass sleet]

Correct

[teal hare]

Yee

[lean cape]

These conversations have clearly been going on for a while, so I'm kinda afraid to try joining in and making myself look foolish, heh

[teal hare]

I’d say if you wanna know who to follow
Wait for stage 1 to fully kick off

Or wait for t he first tournaments to start

And then we’ll actually know who’s gonna be performing we’ll@and who’s floundering

[glass sleet]

You should see me in Valorant. I be talking and everything I say sounds stupid as hell. But should I care? Hell no.

[teal hare]

Other then the unchanged rosters

[glass sleet]

Or just be like me and randomly pick a team and stick with it

[teal hare]

I pick who’s playstyles I like the most

Unless it’s an org I hate them I’ll only refer to the players instead of the team

[glass sleet]

I’ve already have my 4 orgs I cheer for in any esport I watch. Makes it easy.

[teal hare]

Which is only like 3
Roc flc aq

[glass sleet]

Saudi orgs

100t are getting their ass handed to them omg

[lean cape]

Semi-esports related, and probably a pipe dream: I'd love it if I could get coaching from a pro Illari player

[glass sleet]

Idk if there are any t500 illary players. She’s kinda simple and don’t need much coaching.

[lean cape]

Fair enough

[glass sleet]

You just gotta keep in mind where your pylon is at

[teal hare]

Aq is reportedly horrible to work for generally
Roc is willing to sign abysmally horrible people for content creators and players
Falcons just buy out big players contract jail people and have purely scummy business practices

[glass sleet]

AQ? Huuuuuh

Aren’t you confusing AQ with TU?

[teal hare]

After the players on aq where free one or two immediately mentioned how shit it was working with the org

[glass sleet]

Really? I never heard anything about Alqad. Who were the players and what did they say?

[teal hare]

I think the main support they had specifically talked about it like the day after

[glass sleet]

Kellex?

[teal hare]

Just that it was hard to work with them at all

[teal hare]

Yea that’s the player

[glass sleet]

How?

[teal hare]

I don’t think he got into much specifics

[glass sleet]

Alqad paid for everything. They even offered them a team house

And paid to have them boot camp in kr

That’s weird.

[teal hare]

to be specific aq i only dislike cause it’s more so a good thing they’re not here anymore
I genuinely hate roc and flc

Like aq I dislike the same way I dislike youbi

I actually hate roc and flc

[glass sleet]

Damn

At least TM survived your hatred huh

Or I should say “dodged”

[teal hare]

Tms only problem was youbi used to be a pos
Over lengsa having pressured a fan into getting super drunk and taking her back to his hotel room while both where drunk and “falling asleep”
Also signed a content creator who’s very openly transphobic and homophobic

Flc business practices are super scummy in every game they touch

In comparison tm ain’t even the problem

[glass sleet]

FLC is scummy cuz they buy great players and hold players accountable for their OWN contracts? Or am I missing anything else?

[teal hare]

Also got more details about aq and it’s essentially
The Saudi players wherent paid well and every import was kinda being forced to constantly fly around all the time which is hard on anyone
Not much of an issue but minor ones

[teal hare]

No they make scummy contracts
The stalk3r contract as example is ONLY expensive to sign him if your a kr team any western team can just have him for free
Multiple places they just dump huge amounts of money and expect winning and if it doesn’t work they just keep dumping money in
They’re more hated in cs for buying a ton of amazing players and yet never preforming well despite dumping multiple millions every time

[glass sleet]

That’s normal…at least in other sports where they’re constantly traveling. But the Saudi players not being paid as much as the imports? That’s normal. Haku is really really mid at best so doesn’t deserve to be paid as much as checkmate or Landon. Ziyad is a rookie who randomly showed up in OWCS THAT year and so a rookie would also be getting paid less than a veteran like checkmate or Landon. At least that’s how it is in real sports…again

[teal hare]

Esports normally aren’t like real sports and when the veterans feel like they’re being moved around too much (players who would know the esport well by now) it probably is a bit much

[glass sleet]

Ok the details on stalker’s contact aren’t public and it sounds too weird to be real. I think something else is happening there. And falcons buying stacked teams and them not performing well is on the players not the org…no?

[glass sleet]

I guess they could’ve just accepted the team house

[teal hare]

Not everyone can do that
Not everyone can uproot there whole life for that kinda thing

[glass sleet]

Also I want it to be clear that I am with you. I also think players should read their contracts fully so they don’t get anything “scummy” happening later on

[glass sleet]

I understand but also…they’re all gamers who just play video games all day so like…ain’t much of a change for most of them

I think stalker should’ve declined or asked for it to be changed instead of agreeing to it when he resigned.

[teal hare]

That’s ignoring there out of game life a bit much

[glass sleet]

I’m not serious about them gaming all day but also kinda am.

[teal hare]

He didn’t resign entirely on his own choice
That one is just a heavily weird scenario

[glass sleet]

Wdym

[teal hare]

We can kinda just use cr tank who has a child

[glass sleet]

MAX HAS A KID?

[teal hare]

That he was pressured to be benched

[glass sleet]

I just assumed it was max

[teal hare]

Other one

But yes a 1 year old I think

[glass sleet]

JUNBIN HAS A KID??

[teal hare]

Yep

[glass sleet]

how

Isn’t he a minor…?

Or was

[teal hare]

I don’t think so

[glass sleet]

Think about it

I mean

[teal hare]

I could be wrong but I know for a fact cr has a player with a kid
There vids of him during lans in the locker rooms with the team

[glass sleet]

He’s 20

[teal hare]

Oh def realistic that he has a 1 year old then

[glass sleet]

I mean

If he’s 1

That means he had him when he was 19

[teal hare]

Or 18

Pretty sure his gf or wife is about the same age as him to

[glass sleet]

And then take out 9 months

Anyway

My bad max for assuming it was you

Not implying anything

[glass sleet]

Erm

Hey

Google says it’s most likely lip’s

Buuuuuuuut I don’t know

[teal hare]

I just know a cr player has a kid for sure
And ado (another ow player) also might

[glass sleet]

Understood 🫡

[wise orbit]

thinking of moon probably

[sacred gulch]

we regular again gang

ssg winning it all

[teal hare]

If by it all you mean NA then yes

Unless dva actually gets nerfed

Then back to being NAH

[sacred gulch]

admiral needs a trophy

hes the goat

[cosmic socket]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Overwatch_Champions_Series/2026/Stage_1/Pre-Season_Bootcamp

[teal hare]

As much as I agree (more for UV personally but yes)

Na has a mountain to climb I’d say the best bet wed have is either the stars aligning
Or 2027

[cosmic socket]

na needs more offtanks, coaches and sym players

[teal hare]

na just lost one of our only like 3 good main tanks

we need more talent period

[cosmic socket]

my personal dream for na is for a veteran sym player like backbone to get signed to an na team as a coach and bring sym overseas

[teal hare]

our best shots are a guy who only plays zar and dva and a dude who only plays 3 main tanks maybe 4

cuffas sadly gone

[cosmic socket]

ye its rough

[sacred gulch]

man

[cosmic socket]

do yall think he was planning on retiring or he couldnt find a team

[sacred gulch]

well collegiate ended

maybe he just wanted to go back home and expected to be pulled as an import

[sullen berry]

roster ui so good, its a shame there none of them added yet

[teal hare]

There’s like little to no chance he was gonna get on as an import
College ended and he’s gotta go unfortunately

Nobody wants an import from Australia due to
Flight costs
Ping

CUFFA going home kinda is him ending his career unless oce suddenly pops off

[glass sleet]

Didn’t he finish school?

Once the Europeans finish school, they become imports again.

[glass sleet]

He can join bleed or Devine99 or something

[robust patio]

@sullen berry @mortal cipher @torn portal

[sullen berry]

Congrats, you made it

[wise orbit]

nice

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-evangelion-neon-genesis-evangelion-misato-shinji-gif-4044037582598310616

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/falconsesport/status/2013189713855754645?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

Falcons Esports (@FalconsEsport)

The legend returns. 🦅

Welcome home, @JunkBuckOW!

#FalconsAreHere

X · Jan 19, 2026, 10:00 AM

@teal hare okay ssg isnt winning

at least unter cant hold back ssg anymore

[grave python]

I was hoping he'd coach another EMEA team

[cosmic socket]

his twitter bio says ex pro tho

that's straight up retirement

[teal hare]

Oce scene is probably dead in like a year unfortunately

[teal hare]

Yea naw we losin

[teal hare]

Yooo hell yea

[mortal cipher]

Niceu

[torn portal]

congrats bro

[humble token]

U done?

[sullen berry]

ty

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/samanewssa/status/2013303374045679734?s=46

Sama News | سما نيوز (@SamaNewsSA)

🚨 Here We Go 🚨

تشكيلة فريق جيكي في لعبة اوفرواتش لسنة 2026 !🔥

🎖️ | ziyad
🎖️ | haku
🎖️ | LBDD7
🎖️ | Finn
🎖️ | alphay

X · Jan 19, 2026, 5:31 PM

alphayi finally leaving zeta only to have finn on his team again

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-akward-awkward-smile-aww-mail-gif-18661471

[grave python]

Ziyad my goat

[sacred gulch]

LBBD7 hs too

pretty cool team

[sacred gulch]

whos the flex dps

maybe alphayi going back to dps?

idk the other guys

actually
haku sounds like a genji player if i had to guess

[cosmic socket]

he's been back on dps

[sacred gulch]

finn will be fine then

that man is no longer on lucio

[cosmic socket]

ziyad - tank
lbbd - hitscan
alphayi - fdps
haku - ms
finn - fs

[sacred gulch]

yeah ive never heard of ziyad and haku sadly

i love all ms tho

[teal hare]

Alphayi was the backup pick hilariously

[teal hare]

Ziyad was aqs tank

Haku is however mid

And Finn is Finn

[sacred gulch]

ah ok

[teal hare]

Alphayi being a backup cause geekay couldn’t secure stalk3r though is a little goofy to think about

[sacred gulch]

i feel more bad for lbbd7

generational hs

[thorny gazelle]

U didn't watch owcs all year? Cuz Ziyad made finals in 2/3 LANs as tank

[teal hare]

Yea
Both him and ziyad are like insanely good and yet they got a backline of
Ok
Decent
And mid

[sacred gulch]

took a break when i got muted here

august or sep i think

came back after christmas

[thorny gazelle]

Well Ziyad rise was kinda together with Lbdd7

[sacred gulch]

i just remember ntmr

and al qad

i remember thinking lbbd7 was so good cr would poach him

of course that never happend

lbbd7 also knows korean

no wait

i might be thinking of lethal kek

[wise orbit]

😭

that backline

is so bad

ok i actually need to rewatch some tm games from last year

literally everyone is glazing tvnt and i have no idea why

[cosmic socket]

ik bruh

[mortal cipher]

but is he stuck with Changgoon ???

[cosmic socket]

tank dps lineup is actually peak and then we got haku and finn laden

like ggs

[cosmic socket]

i was just gonna say i wonder who their coach will be

cuz junkbuck went back to falcons

[mortal cipher]

Changoon always follows either a Spark player or a Dynasty player

[sullen berry]

https://fxtwitter.com/ememerali/status/2013270775940157710?s=46&t=KgYGfH-XZ39WFFAC0cApPQ

Emerali (@EmEmerali)

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[torn portal]

i hope they took this post down because they’re changing it

[glass sleet]

Omg haku Finn is so cooked

What a backline

I like the roster a lot buuuuuuut then I look at the support line

[torn portal]

Might as well sign a random fdps and run alphayi on lucio

My goat roster has a plumber backline

[glass sleet]

Alphayi might genuinely be better Lucio

[torn portal]

that’s the issue tho. I’m sure they probably wanted to not use haku but they need him for SEL

[glass sleet]

Alqad instantly got upgraded when the RETIRED 25 year old man came back and took Haku’s place

[torn portal]

Unironically SEL is the only limit to saudi rosters right now

[glass sleet]

Damn like sign some other Saudi Ms and gamble with that

[torn portal]

Yeah haku has had too many chances

[glass sleet]

Last time he played well was in OWWC 2023 😭

And that was when he first learned Lucio

[torn portal]

Haku and kellex was the difference between a middling stage and a flawless stage

Noticing

[glass sleet]

Yep

Haku does way too many big mistakes

I’m getting flashbacks of him just ulting after fights already end so many times

[torn portal]

U don’t remember do u. AQ was 4-3 BELOW geng stage 1 with haku

the only reason they made lan was cus they were smart enough to play mauga when geng weren’t

[glass sleet]

I remember they became the best team in emea when kellex came

[torn portal]

Haku is my most hated emea player

[glass sleet]

Damn

[torn portal]

that’s not like

obviously bad like youbi or something

[glass sleet]

SEL just need 2 Saudis btw

[torn portal]

Like purely gameplay performance is haku

[glass sleet]

They can get rid of him

But emea has no ms players

[torn portal]

Ok then this baffles me why they don’t sign like anyone

[glass sleet]

Yeah I just think that’s worse. Being the most hated for being bad feels real bad lol

[glass sleet]

Unless they went back to old rules, SEL can have 3 non Saudis so you just need 2 and the rest can be imports for a 5 man roster

I guess geekay could’ve tried to get an ms import?

[torn portal]

gosh imagine this team with admiral, hell even admiral ultraviolet imported

The backline is the teams #1 factor and it’s sad

[glass sleet]

Ah cuz they were geekay

[torn portal]

Yeah and admiral is european

[glass sleet]

You know what. Despite all we said. Imma believe Finn and haku gonna show up

[glass sleet]

Yeah but still in na atm

The rumors about geekay came out to be true. So there’s a big chance alqad rumors might be true as well. Sirmajed Galaa and Vestola right? Alphayi should’ve went to alqad instead

[torn portal]

i have a rule for teams

if you see haku vindaim or mag on a roster

no matter how good the other pieces seem

[glass sleet]

Damn

[torn portal]

the roster will be ass and play below expectations

mark my words…

[glass sleet]

Shouldn’t get my hopes up

[torn portal]

or finn but he hasn’t had many chances to move between rosters to check

but likelyhood is high

[cosmic socket]

no landon is interesting

you think he went vp or back to na

i'm leaning towards na cuz i would imagine he would want to stick with the same core

[glass sleet]

And what core is that?

Landon been playing in emea for years now

[cosmic socket]

ziyad lbbd

[torn portal]

lowkey good point

[torn portal]

the aq core

stay with lbbd7 ziyad, technically haku

[cosmic socket]

i meant if he was staying in emea he would stick with the same core

[glass sleet]

Ah, ok now that makes sense

[cosmic socket]

idk how that would go if he went na

slop region but fs is prolly our best role

[glass sleet]

Rumors have it checkmate to falcons

Kellex retires

[cosmic socket]

uv, cjay, rupal

[glass sleet]

So alqad core is gone

[cosmic socket]

lukemino also has his moments

[cosmic socket]

i would still call emea geekay the qad core

[glass sleet]

It’s just two players

3 if you count haku who hasn’t played since kellex

I think Landon wants a partner team tho

So he either plays for na or VP

[cosmic socket]

idk what i wanna see more

na already has enough flex supports

and i don't think a player like landon would see as much success with a main tank team

[turbid ferry]

hello

[wise orbit]

why? he swapped between two completely different emea rosters between 24 and 25

[sullen berry]

Roadmaps of OWCS Asia Preseason + Start of Stage 1

[glass sleet]

I think it’s more likely he goes to VP if he’s not going back to NA

He’s always preferred to play in emea

[mortal cipher]

ooh

[balmy wolf]

Is owcs in japan worth watching

[glass sleet]

OWCS Japan is growing in popularity I guess

[teal hare]

if for nothing
varrel are peak to watch

id say theyll all generally be worth it for the most part imo

[sullen berry]

For a region that gets more attention and korean imports like Edison or Topdragon, yeah there's something unlike the Pacific region

I just watch japan because the casters there are lot more entertaining to listen to, the top 2-3 teams in the region are more locked in than Korea, though

https://x.com/i/status/2013522013076496492 ah yes, speaking of Japan, REVATI

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X · Jan 20, 2026, 8:00 AM

[glass sleet]

They’re alone

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/owspidey_/status/2013571479271514342?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

spidey (@owSpidey_)

EMEA Stage 1

X · Jan 20, 2026, 11:17 AM

[glass sleet]

EWC gonna have 24 games this year

Fortnite is back in EWC

[glass sleet]

I can’t wait for them to beat everyone and make us eat our words

[sacred gulch]

I mean its like 3 of some of the best players with the worst backline

its the only Champ-Masters range team

[glass sleet]

Lbdd7? Awesome. One of the best emea hs. Ziyad? Everyone called him best tank of the year or and rookie of the year. Alphayi? Great fps and flexible

Finn

Haku

[sacred gulch]

yes

basically

[glass sleet]

It’s rough

[sacred gulch]

funny part is finn been around

hes just never been a standout player

so hes being clowned on

[glass sleet]

Hopefully it’s just zeta being ass and not being being the problem

Coping

[sacred gulch]

isnt cjay a free agent

[glass sleet]

As far as I know

SSG dropped him but no announcement for another team

[sacred gulch]

time to uplift geekay with cjay

clearly

[glass sleet]

Not he’s not worth it imo. Also he would rather stay in na where he can be on a partnered org

Yeah cuz na has 4

And emea has 2 and a half

[sacred gulch]

isnt geekay like mega partnered
big money

saudi org

even if he soft throws he gets paid

[glass sleet]

The Saudi orgs are private company that don’t get funded by the government. Second, geekay is UAE.

[sacred gulch]

ah right, sorry for the confusion

[glass sleet]

They’re private owned

[cosmic socket]

only state funded saudi esports club in ow is falcons i believe

[glass sleet]

That’s not even confirmed. Just speculation

[sacred gulch]

falcons getting all the money makes sense
multi game champs or at least very close

shit

[glass sleet]

I believe Saudi orgs have more money to spend cuz they don’t lose all their profits to tax

[sacred gulch]

could simply be nest eggs too

some of those guys have more money than they could spend

simply too much

[glass sleet]

Falcons are a massive org with a massive fan base and a bunch of well known content creators. They make a lot of money

[glass sleet]

Wdym

[sacred gulch]

im pretty sure they won 3 games last year too

[sacred gulch]

The owners

[glass sleet]

The owner of falcons is literally a gamer

[sacred gulch]

im just a lil salty over saudi based orgs these days cause they just throw money at things sometimes

[glass sleet]

He played/plays fifa competitively

[sacred gulch]

like city of the wolves

[glass sleet]

He’s like 100t

Gamer became an org owner

[sacred gulch]

that was the same for echo fox
and look where that went

well he was sort of a gamer

i dont think falcons success is purely cause of his past
he clearly has some business savvy

[glass sleet]

The field do be needing money tho

[glass sleet]

Of course every CEO has a team of nerds working for them

You think nadeshot is this entrepreneur genius? Bro use to just do 180 no scopes

[sacred gulch]

i also hold some anger towards ewc cause some of the best players are heavily lgbt and they’d be punished at that event

but that has nothing to do with orgs as a whole and just where the money is

[sacred gulch]

im well aware
but it makes you think about how certain orgs fail

[glass sleet]

They wouldn’t get punished. The player would be allowed to go play. Saudi posted about lgbt visiting.

[sacred gulch]

its simply unsafe for them
its why certain people boycott the event or dont content create during its running

[glass sleet]

Dude the government isn’t gonna freaking catch lgbt people like they’re Pokémon’s at an event they told them they’re welcome

[sacred gulch]

im not gonna make the example im thinking of cause its a stretch

[glass sleet]

If only you knew how many lgbt community members have been to Saudi

[glass sleet]

Hm?

[torn portal]

it’ll be funny and hopefully replaced if they flop

[torn portal]

that’s the issue. He’s like, fine at best and was a limiting factor of zeta for the entirety of its existence

and haku has been the same for his teams but even worse

[cosmic socket]

i'm excited for the zeta rebuild

finns already taken we can only go up from here

[reef seal]

i just read about him, fifa legend it seems

damn lol

[young zodiac]

I play for a high school level esports team and my coach made this weeks game plan just a big google doc glazing me 😭

I’m literally mid diamond idk why im being banked on so hard…

[sacred gulch]

time to perform

the aura of youbi will take over you

[teal hare]

Geekay is owned by a dude who just really liked video games

He goes to most of his teams showings to cheer them on in person

[cosmic socket]

youbiawesome

[young zodiac]

I was just on vacation for a week I’m rusty lmao
But I took some adderall and that makes me play like crazy usually lo

[young zodiac]

Quartz shares my mains how about him

[glass sleet]

Yeah. That’s all I know of him

[glass sleet]

Geekay is an electronic store

Or at least that’s one of the things they’re selling

[teal hare]

I mean they might but I just know the CEO loves games and cheers his teams on every chance he gets

[glass sleet]

Good on them

Go esports

[wise orbit]

https://x.com/virtuspro_OW2/status/2013695663943405589

Virtus.pro Overwatch 2 (@virtuspro_OW2)

From beneath the ice, our bears awaken with a vengeance - ready to take over the world 🐻‍❄️

Introducing the Virtus.рro Overwatch roster for the pre-season bootcamp as well as OWCS Stage 1 EMEA 2026:

⚔️ @kevster_ow
⚔️ @seicoeOW
🛡️ @eis_ow
💉 @FiXa_ow
💉 @Landon_OW

🧠

X · Jan 20, 2026, 7:30 PM

im guessing kevster is playing hitscan since he's done it before

[teal hare]

Seicoe in the showing has cass infront of his name

Seicoe
Is the hitscan

these mfs so cooked

[wise orbit]

ah

well

obviously they can just swap roles if things go too bad

but you won't get the best out of either of them on hitscan i think

wish they just got an actual hitscan player like xzo lol

but whatever all these players are tuff asf ill be cheering for them

maybe seicoe is a secret hitscan demon like lbbd7

[teal hare]

Maybe
Rumour is xzo is going to aq

Same with wmaimone

They already have galaa vestola and can’t remember the third

Sirmajed

[wise orbit]

they announced galaa and vestola?

that team will genuinely be unstoppable on circuit lol

[cosmic socket]

who are we putting on hs

[wise orbit]

seicoe apparently

[cosmic socket]

son

[wise orbit]

hes the cass in the announcement film

[cosmic socket]

could we really not bag xzodyal

[wise orbit]

im guessing they will see how things go in scrim tho

[wise orbit]

yea idk

either way ur not getting maximum value from your players

[cosmic socket]

idk

maybe seicoes a hitscan god

everyone thought of lbbd as a pharah otp before 2025

[grave python]

No xzo ?

[wise orbit]

yea i was thinking that

obviously they are insane players so its not impossible he could just be really good on hitscan as well

[cosmic socket]

for the time being tho this is quite questionable

like id unironically take a cookie or a zorrow before trusting hs seicoe

[wise orbit]

i actually think zorrow would've been a good gamble

xzo is obv the best choice but zorrow has looked rly good and is pretty young as well

[cosmic socket]

he did have a good showing ye

cookie too honestly

[wise orbit]

i don't think there was ever any sort of leak that he was going to vp tbf

it just seemed like the most rational choice

[teal hare]

Jim and maimone are probably aqs dps lineup is the guess

Him

[glass sleet]

I’m sorry to hear that bro. I can’t believe you waited this whole time for this shit

[wise orbit]

im still optimistic

[glass sleet]

Seicoe and Kevster

[wise orbit]

all these guys are insane at the game and its possible seicoe is a secret hitscan demon like lbbd7

[glass sleet]

They gonna fight over who plays tracer?

[glass sleet]

No

I refuse to believe that

[wise orbit]

it seems like they are planning on seicoe being the hitscan

[glass sleet]

Actually?

[wise orbit]

since his name was next to the cass in the announcement film

[glass sleet]

Only explanation is xzodyal went to alqad

Picking seicoe as their hs over xzo

Unbelievable

[pallid spoke]

I think it’s much easier for flex to go to hs than vice versa

[thorny gazelle]

from what I heard Kevster been playing soj and ashe in ranked a lot

[wise orbit]

tbh from when i've looked at the leaderboard before he always seem to have hitscans in his most played

[thorny gazelle]

Well think it makes more sense to put him at hitscan

[grave python]

Yeah true

This roster is insane anyway

[thorny gazelle]

So basically team Peps has to upset if they wanna be 5th place

[wise orbit]

yea we dont rly know who will play it but seicoe had his name next to the cass in the announcement film

i think its likely they will go by results in scrims and stuff

[teal hare]

Peps probably would have needed to upset to be 4th regardless
This stage they did a big upset on geng who upset Bo

Vp

[thorny gazelle]

ye

Also I think I miscounted theres 4 good teams

and then Peps is first team after that

[teal hare]

Idk peps could suprise us

[cosmic socket]

vp, tm, geekay, and who else?

[thorny gazelle]

alqad

[cosmic socket]

i thought they werent fielding another roster

[thorny gazelle]

rumour is they have vestola galaa and sirmajed and may sign xzodyal and wmaimone

[cosmic socket]

is it confirmed theyre fielding another roster

[thorny gazelle]

idk

but even if its not alqad that roster being real is not unlikely id say because i dont think vestola galaa xzodyal all quitting

[grave python]

I think I said it already but this roster would be peak

[thorny gazelle]

Ye I genuinely think only weakness would be ves hero pool

[grave python]

True

[thorny gazelle]

And maybe majed being washed

[grave python]

Nahhh

It's just we haven't seen him playing for a long time but I don't think he's washed

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/d7bit/status/2013699372702216660?s=46

NAVI debit (@d7bit)

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X · Jan 20, 2026, 7:45 PM

looks like they locked in

• cartifan

[grave python]

What is this about

[cosmic socket]

sakura looking for org

means they likely wont split as a team

[teal hare]

Aaaawww

Sakura being gone is sad

Buuut swicoe has confirmed kevster is there hitscan

[cosmic socket]

are we deadass

where did he confirm it i dont see it on his twitter

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/nekomiyamimi/status/2013070999617474771?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

Nekomiya Mimi🐾🩵 (@NekomiyaMimi)

Today I learned that an esports team continued to let a bad player stay on the team because his girlfriend was banging the whole team and they didn't want to let her go..

What did you learn today?

X · Jan 19, 2026, 2:08 AM

this prob isnt overwatch
but wouldnt surprise me

[carmine igloo]

That’s absolutely insane 😭 getting passed around like that

[mortal cipher]

i mean it happened for a Cop team why not an esport team

[teal hare]

He posted this so

https://x.com/seicoeow/status/2013733991887585394

seicoe (@seicoeOW)

@Time__OW @virtuspro_OW2 @kevster_ow @eis_ow @FiXa_ow @Landon_OW No I’m not HS

X · Jan 20, 2026, 10:02 PM

[cosmic socket]

well let's hope double flex falls back into meta

[viscid hatch]

I really like the vp roster

[tired epoch]

[humble token]

What is geekay roster even

[static pond]

lol some esports tend to be friendship leagues

[grave python]

https://x.com/mrmcrohan/status/2013743528275235252?s=46

Numba1HanBinFan (@MrMcRohan)

Ziyad and LBBD7 would've perfectly rounded out this roster. Such a shame VP will never sign Saudi players

X · Jan 20, 2026, 10:40 PM

Eis would always bench if Ziyad played for VP 😭

[tepid ibex]

They have good pieces and then a fuck ass support line 😭

Finn can be serviceable but picking haku who got benched for kellex 😭😭

[glass sleet]

Does VP have something against Saudis or is that just made up by whoever tweeted that?

[glass sleet]

Alphayi, Lbdd7 ziyad, Finn haku

[grave python]

I think it’s mostly made up

They would have picked Ziyad if Eis left

[glass sleet]

I wouldn’t be so sure about that

[grave python]

Idk

But Ziyad is great so

[weary scarab]

dont think so. i think the saudis are the ones who dont wanna join none saudi teams cuz they wanna live in their country

[grave python]

https://x.com/Overwatch2_NEWS/status/2013914467306705233

Overwatch2ニュース@おばにゅー (@Overwatch2_NEWS)

【悲報】韓国大手プロゲーミングチームGenG、OWCS撤退が確定か

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驚くような展開じゃないけど、かなり恥ずかしいOW復帰の幕引きになったと思う。

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X · Jan 21, 2026, 10:00 AM

@glass sleet this sucks

[wise orbit]

made up

i think more likely its saudi orgs often seeking out saudi rosters

especially with sel and everything

but vp would've 100% signed lbbd7 if they could i think

[glass sleet]

😭

[glass sleet]

Geng are also not doing great in apex legends

[grave python]

Fr ?

Why are times tough for Gen.G bruh

[glass sleet]

Yeah I watched the championship and they were stuck around 15th with 9th being their best map. Out of 20

[glass sleet]

Valorant VCT pacific starting this weekend and geng hopefully going to do well.

[grave python]

Yeah we'll see

[glass sleet]

Also

The winner of championship was a team from LCQ

just like falcons winning EWC from LCQ

[grave python]

💀

Man I hope they don't do another fucking LCQ for EWC

[glass sleet]

Falcons were so close to winning apex legends

They just had to get ONE more knock and they win

[grave python]

Which team won

[glass sleet]

Oblivion

I think how you win in apex is whoever wins 2 maps first

Damn if geng win their first game, they face the same team that kicked them out last time. In Valorant

[humble token]

Feels like vp should be able out bid geekay

But maybe they dont wanna

[wise orbit]

well maybe

it's a saudi org so they could js have infinite money glitch partner or not

getting landon probably wasnt cheap either

[humble token]

Isnt it UAE

[humble token]

Ye landon goes where the money is at

[wise orbit]

its saudi

[humble token]

I think kevster can be good at hs tho

If Lbdd7 can be top 3 hs in 1 year than kev inst impossible

[wise orbit]

yea

i believe in kevscan

[open pike]

hiya im a supp main looking for a dps player to play with (preferably masters and above ) feel free to add me and we can play! :

[wise orbit]

https://x.com/xzodyal_OW/status/2013999969703797068

xzo (@xzodyal_OW)

Still LFT for OW and Marvel Rivals EU/NA

Contact:@DarthYellow_lol

Rts and likes appreciated

X · Jan 21, 2026, 3:39 PM

??

so vp could've signed him?

bruh i hope smash knows what hes doing

[grave python]

How

[teal hare]

HOW is xzo still looking
On what world is kevster a better hitscan then xzo

[pallid spoke]

le internet incident

[wise orbit]

https://x.com/seicoeow/status/2013733991887585394

seicoe (@seicoeOW)

@Time__OW @virtuspro_OW2 @kevster_ow @eis_ow @FiXa_ow @Landon_OW No I’m not HS

X · Jan 20, 2026, 10:02 PM

so yea kevscan confirmed

oh its old news mb

[glass sleet]

Teams too scared of the Spaniard internet

[glass sleet]

Who the hell is time ow

[wise orbit]

eu ladder player

plays a lot of tracer i think

[glass sleet]

He’s on Vp?

[wise orbit]

nop

js a high ranked player on eu

[glass sleet]

So why was he being tagged

[wise orbit]

seicoe was replying to him

[glass sleet]

Man this isn’t fair for xzodyal

[grave python]

https://x.com/DallasFuel/status/2014030563552739514

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

Tomorrow. #BurnBlue

X · Jan 21, 2026, 5:41 PM

[mortal cipher]

Ooh

[carmine igloo]

im so ready for either peak roster announcement or the middest team of all time

[grave python]

Fr

[grave python]

Edison return maybe ?

[mortal cipher]

Idk

Depends on reject

[mortal cipher]

Honestly could be entertaining regardless

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-stan-twitter-vexify-running-skeleton-scared-gif-8091751385080591161

either gonna be dogshit na scraps or carried by korean imports

[teal hare]

I mean they could just pickup all of Sakura

Would be pretty good team
Even if the backline just can’t be peak since nas good backline a are gone already

[glass sleet]

Nah an org like envy, a team like Dallas fuel shouldn’t waste their money on Sakura roster

No disrespect

[glass sleet]

Wdym? He’s been playing. He’s been playing in Japan region for two years I think

[mental vine]

dannng

[teal hare]

Who else is there in na that’s like
Capable of top 4 without being imported

Especially now that CUFFA is gone

[cosmic socket]

the big question is do you think they import

[teal hare]

The only super good player to import rn would be stalk3r but I honestly don’t want him on a team that isn’t gonna be top in its region without him

[cosmic socket]

if this team wants to be at all competitive they need to import

even middish koreans

tl and ssg already have the best 2 na players for each role

[static pond]

https://x.com/xzodyal_ow/status/2013999969703797068?s=46

xzo (@xzodyal_OW)

Still LFT for OW and Marvel Rivals EU/NA

Contact:@DarthYellow_lol

Rts and likes appreciated

X · Jan 21, 2026, 3:39 PM

[grave python]

We lost SparkR, we’re NOT losing Xzo

Like please it’s still sad that SparkR had to left OW

He was one of the best hitscan players in EMEA

[cosmic socket]

this is just ridiculous

[robust patio]

@sullen berry im prob gonna get ticket for day2

[full flume]

@sullen berry im prob gonna get ticket for day2

[grave python]

@sullen berry im prob gonna get ticket for day2

[robust patio]

-.-

[robust patio]

nom

[sullen berry]

im prob gonna get ticket for day2

waait

[sullen berry]

Who would win in viewership? The small, sponsored Korean tounament hosted by popular caster and former OWL MVP Fleta?
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X · Jan 22, 2026, 8:55 AM

or one japanese all-star tournament this weekend -.-

https://x.com/jpPlayOverwatch/status/2014269307308695927?s=20

オーバーウォッチ (@jpPlayOverwatch)

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X · Jan 22, 2026, 9:30 AM

some good artwork there

[robust patio]

this wouldnt beat wdg

[sullen berry]

Yeah you have the entire if japan viewership ready to give the impression ow2 > valorant for a day on Twitch

At least they care about their ow2 esports ecosystem and not let these dream matches become too korean top-heavy

Edison and Topdragon will be playing on fan voted players and draft picked rosters by the casters

[errant karma]

dallas fuel got the biggest budget in NA lol they not picking up sakura

[pallid spoke]

what’s Dallas fuels parent org

[errant karma]

envy

[teal hare]

Who do they have left that’s good in NA

The best talents alresdy been grabbed or is gone

[errant karma]

🤷‍♂️

guess we see tomorrow

[mortal cipher]

Guess so

[wise orbit]

https://x.com/DallasFuel/status/2014428490481775013

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

Join us in welcoming the 2026 Dallas Fuel Players and Coaches. Give them a follow!

Players:
@Kellan_OW
@seonjunow
@KronikFPS
@LukeminoO
@cjayow

Coaches:
@EricMPerez
@FuelYong

X · Jan 22, 2026, 8:02 PM

obv i think cuffa would be better but i like kellan more so im fine with this lol

[vestal spoke]

js saw that

wait yong is at fuel now

wtff

ill miss you yong 😢😢😢

i miss all the oa coaches

jfeel yong

yxl and kama

😢😢😢

[wise orbit]

idk these imports js dont make much sense to me

obv seonjun is rly good at the game and kellan is like alright but i feel like cuffa and wmaimone would be as good if not better

and then u could use imports for the backline

[vestal spoke]

landon got sent to vp

wtf

[wise orbit]

ye

landon fixa is an insane backline

[carmine igloo]

And cuffa wmaimone have played together for a year+ atp

Also xzo is still without a team 😭

[wise orbit]

wish vp got kev xzo instead of kev seicoe

[cosmic socket]

from my understanding wmaimone is going back to eu

allegedly

[wise orbit]

but isnt he studying in the us

[cosmic socket]

i believe he graduated

i heard a rumor that wmaimone and tama were trying to form a team

i like seonjun kronik dps line

very low resource fdps that will let kronik click heads

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/i/status/2014437869050310894

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

The 2026 Dallas Fuel jersey is now available on the Envy Shop. The star above the flame commemorates our 2022 World Championship and we hope to add more stars in the future. Link to purchase is below in this thread.

X · Jan 22, 2026, 8:39 PM

[mortal cipher]

better than the 23 jersey

[teal hare]

Not better then cheeseburgers jersey

[mortal cipher]

thats tru

[sacred gulch]

#BurnBlue

na stacked this year

dps lineup is crazy
better backline than geekay

we need to make this channel more active than ows so i never go back there

[grave python]

We're gonna make it more active

Also big W pfp

[sacred gulch]

its gonna be diff in a month

[grave python]

I can't wait for bootcamp

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/painkiller_ow/status/2013445264388784630?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

Painkiller / Ryan (@painkiller_ow)

Just brought Cjay some toast!

X · Jan 20, 2026, 2:55 AM

knew painkiller was teasing with this tweet

kellan is unfort tank choice tho

cuffa better

[teal hare]

Cuffas not an option anymore so

Kellen is the better choice rn

[sullen berry]

I just like 2-3 pieces but not the whole roster

Doesnt mean the core can't outperform their 2024 selves

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/cuffah/status/2014432184245829733?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

cuFFa (@cuffah)

X · Jan 22, 2026, 8:17 PM

https://x.com/raelean_/status/2014435676922491213?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

cally (@raelean_)

@cuffah dont worry twin you WILL GET SIGNED.

(maybe not this stage but im sure after some of the tanks who've been playing turn out to be shit )

YOU WILL GET A ROSTER SPOT!!!!!

X · Jan 22, 2026, 8:31 PM

hes all in on retirement