esports-discussion

[grave python]

I was actually thinking about more sponsors but what if they get Red Bull as sponsor since Disguised is an partnered org

[mortal cipher]

I mean Red Bull is also a T1

[grave python]

And Disguised is coming and this is going to be 3rd season of OWCS but we'll see

Anyway

I feel like all teams are releasing a lot of players

I can't wait for rosters

I'm looking forward to Dallas Fuel roster

[glass sleet]

You mean tournament sponsor or team sponsor? t1 already has Red Bull as one of their sponsors

[glass sleet]

Yeah T1 hasn’t dropped zest yet so I’m thinking he’s not going to tm. I’m worried it’s actually gonna be viper who’s going to tm and I don’t support that

[grave python]

Tournament sponsor but maybe I'm saying bullshits idk

[glass sleet]

Why would you pick up a genji otp (basically) cuz he barely got any playtime all year and was basically only one tricking genji

[glass sleet]

Of course the more sponsors the better the esport but idk if we’ll get any big ones if any at all. I mean we went two years for ONE sponsor DHL

EWC has a ton of sponsors. That’s the only time ow tournament is like that. The other two majors we have nothing basically

[grave python]

Yea

I hope EWC will sponsor OWCS one day

[mortal cipher]

Maybe this year

[glass sleet]

As an esport you want EWC sponsor but but ow idk

Cuz ow might get some backlash

From the fans

[glass sleet]

What’s the Korean in your name say

[mortal cipher]

Gfriend

[glass sleet]

What does it say tho. Like Korean with English letters

[mortal cipher]

I’m assuming gfriend in Korean

[glass sleet]

여자친구

YES!!!

Let’s go

I did read it right, I just wasn’t sure since I just started Korean. I can read some shit but idk what they mean lol

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/spacestation/status/2009019851789226147?s=46

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

X · Jan 7, 2026, 9:50 PM

[glass sleet]

Who did they drop again?

[cosmic socket]

no one so far

i think cjay posted a lft but they could just resign him

[glass sleet]

Then roster is wack

[cosmic socket]

my guess is they keep lep maybe keep kronik and get uv

dallas and dsg get the scraps

[glass sleet]

Rumors say UV to ssg and so far I believe it

[glass sleet]

Na teams need imports or only one team gonna be strong

[cosmic socket]

cap said that someone made the best possible na team without imports or tl players, and hawk and lenny are must haves for that to happen

so i would assume that ssg also got uv

[glass sleet]

Dafuq

That just sounds like “we made a team that’s not better than TL”

[cosmic socket]

yea

[glass sleet]

So nothing changed

It sounds like SSG last year

[cosmic socket]

he called it a "superteam" but tl is already pretty much the best possible importless na team

[glass sleet]

Na has big orgs wtf. I just realized they have 3 of the big orgs in esports

SSG TL and Envy

[glass sleet]

I’m not holding my breath

[cosmic socket]

na needs offtanks, coaches and sym players

mainly sym players

or symless metas

[glass sleet]

Na is just wanna be Koreans so they stick to tracers and genjis. That’s why they can’t play sym.

[cosmic socket]

truth

[glass sleet]

There’s a chance it’s sigma bastion meta btw…

[cosmic socket]

if we got better coaches we could honestly mirror koreans on dive

i think we have the talent for it but its all directionless

[glass sleet]

Hmmmm. I’d like to see that

[glass sleet]

Players can’t think for themselves. They need to be told what to do.

[cosmic socket]

i heard tl got ggoultaek which would be promising

[glass sleet]

From geekay?

Na just needs to pretend they’re so flexible and lock in

That’s it

[pure bramble]

Geekay frauded out so hard

truly the ‘potential’ team

[wintry remnant]

Goodnight esports discussion

[teal hare]

That’s like pretty much every team except for 4 teams st this point

Aq (which are dead in ow) tm cr and flc

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

Basically top 3 in Korea and top 2 in eu are the only non frauds

[cyan hazel]

T1 T1 T1 T1

Goodness gracious they're getting a 4peat in league and an owcs win this year, how exciting

[mortal cipher]

I mean a 3peat is already hard enough

[humble token]

Youbi?

[glass sleet]

Context

[humble token]

He is a coach and a player

Sym nerf is tuff tho

225 hp instead of 276

[glass sleet]

We were talking about NA players. Youbi isn’t NA.

Context.

[humble token]

Oh

[glass sleet]

TL picked up geekay’s coach.

[humble token]

Hm

Could be good maybe they can beat a korean team

Oh wait

I am dumb

Its the tp health

[cyan hazel]

Meh.

Infekted zeruhh and Rupal are all capable of beating Koreans but I'm not sure about Vega, the other tank who I will not name, and kronik

[static pond]

Why were the team skins removed under esports tab?

And what tournament do the cosmic bundle even go too??

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/spacestation/status/2009380448372244728?s=46

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

Thank you @cjayow 💛🖤

X · Jan 8, 2026, 9:43 PM

ssg drop cjay

ultraviolet incoming

[pure bramble]

shame I really like cjay

[cosmic socket]

same

i feel like he really leveled up in stage 3

especially his kiri

[stoic glacier]

what happened to the endurance bonus after finishing game :(

[viscid hatch]

Assault maps being back is cool

Sad no horizon lunar colony or Paris

Well

[pallid spoke]

cjay slimed for lep’s sins

but deadass NA just needs MS players

[errant karma]

#nooticing how they nerf emea after worlds ends

and not in the patch before

good patch though

[pure bramble]

I want a double flex backline meta

seeing someone like Admiral on kiri

it’s beautiful

[static pond]

Think a lot of region are gonna start lacking ms

[pallid spoke]

this role is deadass just not fun

esp in ranked

your impact is not clearly visible so it’s jus aids

[balmy wolf]

main support drought

but lowkey doesnt shock me the role has like 3 viable heroes they cycle between and even then they arent all equally viable

so more people probs would rather play fs

[pallid spoke]

deadass all ms highlights are basically ints

so u just getting ur ass beat by everyone

[balmy wolf]

LMFAOAOAOAOA

[pallid spoke]

hopefully wuyang gets more time I think we need him to shine

[balmy wolf]

he needs to be meta over lucio and brig so we get ms highlights that isnt just well.

hes def a breath of fresh air though

[pallid spoke]

too bad the best NA wu is UV

a flex support

WP

[balmy wolf]

to be fair his competition is vega and lep

[pallid spoke]

LOL

chill on vega

[balmy wolf]

and we have not seen admiral on the hero once

[balmy wolf]

i just love jumping him its so funny

lep im fully serious about though

[pallid spoke]

after you watch ssg vs liquid you will never stop wanting to beat lep to death with your bare hands

but fr that role is too much stress

[balmy wolf]

me watching ssg vs weibo

[pallid spoke]

I feel bad for everyone who plays it

[balmy wolf]

though im also a weibo fan so i was lowkey celebrating everytime lep fucked

[balmy wolf]

LMFAOAOAOAOA

[pallid spoke]

dude now that I’m thinking about it every disgusting esports int clip is ms

or more like

lucio

ajax

violet runasapi

the natsuki ajax of doom

[balmy wolf]

its not as bad in something like ranked cause who gives a fuck u can play what u want so i guess u have more options but in pro play yeah

playing only lucio brig for so long must get boring as fuck

[pallid spoke]

yeah I think part of it is that ms feels like complete ass in ranked at least in like masters

[balmy wolf]

violet ajaxing like three times in one round of lijang

[pallid spoke]

like u just feel like ur doing 0 on the role

[pallid spoke]

farmed 3 beats in 1 round that’s my goat

[balmy wolf]

its like that in like every rank minus mercy in silver LMFAOAOAOA

[balmy wolf]

yet somehow not one beat went off

hes so funny

[teal hare]

That’s cause they’re the easiest to see them feed

[pallid spoke]

yes it’s unfortunate

[balmy wolf]

true its also so noticeable when a ms feeds cause u just look crazy

[pallid spoke]

also tru

[teal hare]

Like I’ve seen everyone else feed and make bad plays but it’s not as flashy

[pallid spoke]

wu doesn’t really have this problem tbf

I actually enjoy him a lot although I’ve been a bit noobchecked by his nerfs

[balmy wolf]

thats also cause he really cannot play close quarters

but we have had some crazy wuyang feeding clips

alba in that one gib match

[pallid spoke]

We had this convo and now I see this tweet

https://x.com/zazazebraoce/status/2008750297477431521?s=46

zaza (@ZazaZebraOCE)

Yeah, I gave up trying to learn main support I just find flex support more enjoyable.

X · Jan 7, 2026, 3:59 AM

[balmy wolf]

OMCOEMDOENDOEN

in the trenches girl

(i say this like i dont only play main support)

[pallid spoke]

1 game of trying to play brig sends me to the sanatorium

[balmy wolf]

it feels like im back to mostly playing brig lowkey

playing weaver or wuyang into dva makes me want to tear my hair out

same with that demon spawn vendetta

[pallid spoke]

I just be playing ana

I ain’t trying to dig for coal

[balmy wolf]

LMFAOAOAOAOAO

i would if i could play flex support for the life of me

like i used to be a brig 1 trick my aim is nonexistent

[pure bramble]

bro why did Junbin and Heesang rollout on Mei Rein

I’m rewatching worlds

why they trolling LIP 😭

[teal hare]

I love brig

[mortal cipher]

Lo

[mental vine]

if shu is in t1, t1 would be the TEAM to watch

i honestly want the team of faker to win owcs

[robust patio]

is he not going to Na

idk

[cosmic socket]

na is already decently stacked for fs

rupal uv cjay

lukemino even

and emea doesnt play ana so i hope he stays in korea

[mortal cipher]

Like T1 have yet to lose to a Chinese team

[cyan hazel]

Why wouldn't he get picked up by T1?

[robust patio]

money

idk

i want him in t1 ofc

[cyan hazel]

He wants a Korean team more, T1 almost certainly pays well, he wants to win

[teal hare]

T1 are probably comparable to falcons in terms of money
It is THE t1

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[glass sleet]

OW T1 don’t pay as much as you think. When they made their roster it was the best of the rest basically so they didn’t need to pay them as much cuz they’d accept anyway. Maybe they’ll get paid more after renewing contract tho

[stray jackal]

Idk if he can go back to korea, he apparently needs to go to military training if he does

[cyan hazel]

Their pay will almost certainly be competitive especially due to the league win

[glass sleet]

What does league winning have to do with ow department

LoL makes more money? Then money goes either back to LoL or to the company higher ups

[grave python]

https://x.com/TwisMinds/status/2009723589562384520

Twisted Minds 🧠 (@TwisMinds)

Twisted Minds’ 2026 Overwatch Roster.

سنة جديدة. طموح مستمر.
نكشف عن فريق أوفرواتش لموسم ٢٠٢٦ 🧠

🛡️ @owKSAA
🛡️ @TVNT___
⚔️ @Youbi_OW
⚔️ @owquartz
⚔️ @JaeWoo_ow
💉 @FunnyAstro
💉 @OwSimple

#TwistTheGame

X · Jan 9, 2026, 8:26 PM

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

JAEWOO OFF THE BENCH

idk why they resigned ksaa tho

him and tvnt already practically have the same hero pool

[grave python]

I agree

KSAA could be coach

[mortal cipher]

prob for flex in case TVNT cant play something

[teal hare]

Imma guess ksaa is there to be a coach and substitute

[mortal cipher]

prob

[humble token]

I thought ksaa was gonna be deleted

Good roster tho

[weary scarab]

so sad they dropped seicoe

[grave python]

Fr

I love Seicoe

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/spacestation/status/2009738479496810850?s=46

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

It’s been an honor @Lep_ow
best of luck on what’s next 💛🖤

X · Jan 9, 2026, 9:26 PM

can we kill the guy running the ssg socials?

like just put the 2026 roster in the tweet bro

[mortal cipher]

It’s weird how it’s made

[glass sleet]

I was NOT expecting jaewoo. Was dropping seicoe worth it?

It’s not zest nor stalker

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

[glass sleet]

Jaewoo looked…

I mean

At least they have simple still

Tm and their rookie Korean imports

[mortal cipher]

He liked good until
They team didn’t

[pallid spoke]

They for sure have admiral uv then right

[teal hare]

Seico only had tracer and youbi only has sym and tracer so
No point in keeping him

[glass sleet]

That’s not true. Seicoe has tracer and he was the best echo in emea. He’s decent on Mei as well.

[teal hare]

I don’t think I’ve seen emea pick echo
And the last one of those is probably the only other hero youbi plays to do keeping a whole player for
Pretty much just echo when your the team that doesn’t sub in players mid set isn’t exactly a huge plus over someone with a wider hero pool

[cosmic socket]

probably

could also be ultraviolet and ms lukemino

[robust patio]

lmfao

[robust patio]

@teal hare @mortal cipher @grave python

@sullen berry WE GOT NEEWS

SEICOE GONE AND JAEWOO JOINS TM

[teal hare]

We saw earlier here anyway

But definitely the better result for tm I’d say

If youbi can play tracer the only reason they had seico anymore was for echo

[mortal cipher]

i saw

[robust patio]

😭

[thorny gazelle]

I think only reason they went for jaewoo instead is genji

[sullen berry]

Seicoe didnt look like was getting his contract renewed, though if i was Jaewoo i would be having the dream job of playing with the best of the best

While simultaneously not being gatekept by KR's top dps

[sullen berry]

Im still waiting for SSG to stop messing around and announce everyone that's leaving

Because SSG have posted in a way that's so misunderstood it makes Al Qadsiah leaving look like an apology

https://x.com/i/status/2009738479496810850

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

It’s been an honor @Lep_ow
best of luck on what’s next 💛🖤

X · Jan 9, 2026, 9:26 PM

If it was pulled from an interview or a published article about LEP leaving SSG, yeah nice 👍

But it isn't. These quotes are trying so hard to be different that it just turns them into mild ragebait

[robust patio]

damn

[sullen berry]

let's be completely honest, china is... Once Again... kinda mainstream thanks to its return last year

12 months and it hasn't fallen off in China like Marvel Rivals (it never took off)

Top 10 on chinese bilibili tags WWWW

[grave python]

Once Again mentioned

I love how China still loves Overwatch

The game was shut down for 2 years and 2 months after the game returned in their country they all came to Hangzhou for the Champions Clash

[robust patio]

https://youtu.be/yL6EVs5fyRk?si=8hhF6Caw1sm1g3eu

[glass sleet]

Hope Jaewoo doesn’t mind 100+ ping cuz he’s gonna be living in Riyadh with simple I believe.

[grave python]

https://x.com/FrostTails/status/2010018804554965160

Frost Tails ⭐️ (@FrostTails)

🏆 @PlayAllForOneFR

Vers une deuxième étoile ?
Voici notre roster pour l'AFO 2026 !

🇩🇪 @hadi_ow
🇫🇮 @Saunamestari
🇫🇷 @Chakolito_
🇨🇭 @Hev_ow
🇫🇷 @Pakk_Ow
🇩🇿 @eden_ow2

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🇩🇪 @Fl0rianOW
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🇫🇷 @LeBenjoy

X · Jan 10, 2026, 4:00 PM

Hadi was LFT but he's actually going to play for Frost Tails in french championship all for one

[sullen berry]

the link to the livestream is hilarious, imagine these are top tier French teams

their bitrate is better than all ov OWCS

[grave python]

Real

I actually played for an MTP team last year

It was fun

I’m planning to go to Lyon for all for one

I went there in 2024

[sullen berry]

sounds like a banger idea

than waiting for OWCS LANs to ever become relevant to me

if i wanted to buy tickets to fly & attend

[grave python]

Maybe I’ll go to world finals if it’s still in Stockholm

If it’s not in Europe I won’t go

[grave python]

I really enjoyed AFO in 2024

[sullen berry]

Ill consider catching an AFO stream if they host one for grand finals

Looks like itll be hugely important for Team France roster building

[grave python]

They’ll do

It will take place on the week-end of May 9 and 10

2 days

I was there 2 years ago

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/spacestation/status/2010107575199789516?s=46

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

We’ll see ya in the server @KronikFPS 🫡

X · Jan 10, 2026, 9:52 PM

[sullen berry]

See you on the server aka "You're getting transferred to a rival NA team that definitely not dsg"

[cosmic socket]

ssg was just not the right fit for kronik

hes a player you want the team to revolve around like quartz

whereas ssg needed a hitscan that could play low resource and let all the pocket go into lenny and hawk who kill everyone every fight

[balmy wolf]

ssg just drop the new roster challenge like girl

[viscid hatch]

What about

Who

[cosmic socket]

in na prolly lethal

which is who im expecting ssg to pick up

[balmy wolf]

fully not gonna shock me if they pick up like a bunch of the old geekay roster

[cosmic socket]

oh yeah fs

hawk lenny lethal uv admiral

gonna be fire

[torn portal]

i think they’re doing it in a fun way

[balmy wolf]

im just impatient and nosy

LMFAOAOAO

[balmy wolf]

i am a bit worried since they still only have a tank that plays off tank but this is def an upgrade

[torn portal]

i’m more interested about the other orgs, they have no rumors

liquid surprisingly has nothing, and DSG and fuel are entirely new

[balmy wolf]

i heard dsg is already giving not so good wages but thats not roster news i fear

and i mean if i was liquid id probs just keep the roster as is besides maybe a second tank for dva zarya

[cosmic socket]

dsg will prolly not be good

might have more streamer oriented players like rak or even pge

[torn portal]

liquid don’t get to make that choice tho

[cosmic socket]

will be there for vibes

[torn portal]

fuel could def poach a liquid player i think its fs possible

[torn portal]

that would be awesome

[cosmic socket]

im pretty confident tl is locked in

[torn portal]

didn’t rupal change his bio while ago

granted could be bait but still

[cosmic socket]

so did vega and tree

theyre just baiting

in fact i heard tl got ggoultaek which would be hype

[balmy wolf]

honestly true

[torn portal]

u think this is stage scissors might actually play

[cosmic socket]

deadass?

thatd be fire

[soft crow]

Hey @willow plinth can you please subscribe to my youtube? I changed my name to OverPlayZZ and I’d be really happy that your my first subscriber

[robust patio]

maybe

[wintry remnant]

Hi guys

[spark terrace]

SSG need soemone with a flex tank background sitting on reserved bro

copium but that might just push them to quarters next year

[teal hare]

is flex off or main tank

I
Like never hear them referred to as anything other then off or main

[spark terrace]

In my head having flex and main be the differing terms make more sense

[teal hare]

Only reason it exists is cause 8 years pretty much of just that as the main term changing it feels weird now

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cartifan22-cartifan-overwatch-ow-gif-17166088722478989174

[spark terrace]

'off' is like the floating rib of the OW vocab imo

[teal hare]

wtf does that mean

[spark terrace]

vestigial

[teal hare]

Floating rib sounds concerning

[spark terrace]

anyways, SSG's actually a pretty prominent team in siege, and since SK and japan's on the rise in those scenes, maybe some cross polination can happen and they could get a korean on NA again

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

I live in delusion for it is my home

[sullen berry]

Oh I'm sure they'll have one or two changes for the entire season, maybe one to keep an eye on the week before start of the season

[torn portal]

https://fxtwitter.com/kallingkelly/status/2010238858198430065?s=46 THIS IS FOR YOU SLEY

kelly (@Kallingkelly)

Quoting Char (@P00PYCHAR)
︀
suave

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FxTwitter · Jan 11, 2026, 6:34 AM

@robust patio @wise orbit

[glass sleet]

Wtf is this

[glass sleet]

So he’s been in everything BUT OWCS since he left SSG

I saw him on some random sel team last stage

Kai too

[grave python]

I think he’s done some tournaments yeah

And this time he’s going to play for afo

[glass sleet]

He can’t find an OWCS team?

[grave python]

[glass sleet]

[grave python]

It's insane that I'll have the opportunity to meet him cause FT will probably qualify for afo grand final

[warm hearth]

Daddies money type shi

[valid willow]

is tbagging banned in owcs?

[teal hare]

I don’t think so it’s just rarely done cause generally players are trying hella hard and the games very active at all times

[viscid hatch]

They should bring back player match chat

[placid hemlock]

No Cr did it to T1 in the lower bracket of worlds

Lip on zest I think

[mortal cipher]

He was on TM

[glass sleet]

Oh yeah. He was terrible on tm. I guess I just deleted that from my brain

[grave python]

I forgot he played for TM

He didn't do great in stage 1 yeah

Stage 1 was bad for most of teams

Except for VP

[glass sleet]

Fun fact. Tm only takes Korean imports from emea

Both Jaewoo and simple were playing in emea before getting picked up by tm

[cosmic socket]

hadi trolling on hazard every fight was truly a sight ot see

[thorny gazelle]

This is just not correct

[mortal cipher]

Tm was bad overall

[thorny gazelle]

Bliss Vigilante Irony all weren't playing in emea

[glass sleet]

That was last season

Get with the times buddy

[thorny gazelle]

Irony wasn't

[grave python]

https://x.com/Spacestation/status/2010483250578260233

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

WELCOME THE BIG @AdmiralRaptr

X · Jan 11, 2026, 10:45 PM

SSG is getting stronger

[cosmic socket]

the pose is so fucking hard

[mortal cipher]

lol

[wise orbit]

this stream was so good lol

i was watching durpee pov

[glass sleet]

Admiral and UV to ssg? They have the best na backline now

[pure bramble]

did Rupal and Vega die?

[glass sleet]

They were never the better backline

And geekay showed it by continuously beating to every stage but the last one where they barely lost

And admiral and uv did better against the Koreans. They even beat cr that one time. Records just show they were better most the time

[pure bramble]

Admiral is good at Lucio but Vega has the better brig

And Illari

And Kiriko

And Juno

[glass sleet]

So you just lying for the love of the game huh?

[pure bramble]

put Admiral on Kiri

slandering Rupal is crazy tho

[glass sleet]

We gonna pretend like admiral didn’t shit on all of TL on zen?

Lw

Brig

Vega better on kiriko sure I could give you that but that’s it. Vega is the worst Ms player on Ms heroes. He’s always only playing well off Ms and on kiriko or illary

Ms that can’t play Ms heroes

[pure bramble]

Vega is quite possible the most flexible MS in NA

besides Lukemino

[glass sleet]

[pure bramble]

his Lucio has carried

his Brig is great

Toronto smacked NA around for a good year

[glass sleet]

Did your parents not tell you lying is bad?

It’s bad for the environment

[glass sleet]

Wanna know why? Admiral wasn’t there then

Who was dominant majority of the year when geekay joined?

Admiral

[pure bramble]

he was

[glass sleet]

Oh yeah ntmr

Who was the fs

Cjay

I respect TD for what they’ve done.

It’s not easy to carry Vega like that

[pure bramble]

you say Merit Someone and Vega were bums

like they didn’t control the region for like a year 😭

[pure bramble]

Zeruhh and Infekted on that team too

i’d say there’s an argument for UV over Rupal

but slandering Vega

[cosmic socket]

admiral has the better lucio/brig but he cant play any flex support whatsoever

which you kinda need in a modern ms

everybody wants to flame vega until you see admiral or lep play kiri illari or wuyang

[humble token]

Wow suprising

[static pond]

During owl?

[pure bramble]

i feel like Vega still has the better brig

Vega can troll every now and then so do some of the best main supports

[valid willow]

what team is dominating rn

[grave python]

Twisted Minds

[teal hare]

Last lan was dominated by tm which just are the best team at sym comps in the sym comp meta

I bet vp feels suprised to see sigma go meta immediately after dropping THE sigma player

[robust patio]

no esports going on

[teal hare]

Team roc try to be a normal org challenge “impossible”

[grave python]

Man I need rosters news

I wanna know if Edison will play for DF

[glass sleet]

Admiral has the better Lucio brig lw zen. Why we pretending like he wasn’t cooking on zen against TL? Even spilo made a whole vod about his zen and saying how Vega should be playing like that

[teal hare]

The thing that admiral has as a downside is
Can’t play flex (which most mains don’t)
And can’t play wuyang cause uv played him and he never bothered learning

[cosmic socket]

he had one good zen game, never to be seen again

and lw is not a real hero

[teal hare]

Unfortunately geekay quite literally are one of the only teams to show what use he can have if played extremely well

So as much as you can say that they quite literally proved it

[cosmic socket]

don't get me wrong admirals the goat and unironically a top 5 ms currently but the guy is just no flexible at all

[teal hare]

He can’t play any flex but
How many of the top ms can play a flex hero

You’ve got the Korean power house teams
Viol2t but like it’s Viol2t

Vega

And who else

[cosmic socket]

leesoomin, vega, viol2t

[teal hare]

Yea thats
Damn that ain’t much

[cosmic socket]

fastros got a good juno on him but that's a low bar ngl

[teal hare]

And Viol2t is
Not a great option for most teams

[teal hare]

Why ever put fastro anywhere except lucio is the issue there he’s easily top 3 on lucio at that level

Plus I think like every player has a juno

[cosmic socket]

yea

[teal hare]

She was played in so many different duos it’s almost implied you have a juno

[cosmic socket]

does sley play ms at all

i wanna call him a ms but i've literally only ever seen him on illari

[teal hare]

I don’t know imma check

[teal hare]

Hey Illaris something

He’s
Liquipedia says his heroes are zen Ana and illari

So I actually have no clue

[cosmic socket]

just scrolled through varrel vs falcons and caught him on brig

[glass sleet]

The irony of that comment

[teal hare]

Brig wu illari and lucio
He might have a kiri to

asked a much much more knowledgeable group im in for this answer

[viscid hatch]

✅✅✅

Guys they are the best (only) Lw team in the world

Watch out

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/obssojourn/status/2010804044961628652?s=46

ExO Chantal | ObsSojourn (@ObsSojourn)

🇺🇸 Our Team USA Committee Application has been officially submitted! 🇺🇸

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X · Jan 12, 2026, 8:00 PM

[teal hare]

Fairly stacked thing here

[wise orbit]

topdih coach

[pure bramble]

https://x.com/spacestation/status/2010824858742264120?s=46

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

how shocked are you?

X · Jan 12, 2026, 9:23 PM

[carmine igloo]

is he gonna play over kronik?

i feel like lethal is pretty cracked

[pure bramble]

i think Kronik is leaving ssg

[wise orbit]

kroniks gone bruh

[carmine igloo]

oh shi mb chief

missed that one 🤦

[wise orbit]

its gonna be hawk sugarbron lethal uv admiral

[pure bramble]

so it’s like Geekay but with Hawk and Lenny instead of Wmaimone and cuffa

[carmine igloo]

ssg kinda glowed up ngl

[wise orbit]

might as well js get cuffa for the main tank hero pool

[pure bramble]

buuuut

what if they got

Rhyno

[grave python]

SSG is getting stronger

[wise orbit]

idk how good he is but i feel like there'd be a tier break between him n like hawk cuffa infekted

maybe hes next up i actually have no idea abt na lol

[pure bramble]

i think he might be worth the gamble

[carmine igloo]

is rhyno still with ntmr? i saw they put their roster out but i forgot who's on it

[pure bramble]

I think it’s this but I wonder if it’s gonna change for OWCS

[wise orbit]

i want the vp roster nowwww

[carmine igloo]

wait so is rhyno FA now?

i have not been locked in on these NA teams im ngl

[grave python]

Fr

[vestal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/viol2t-ajax-gif-10079371243123717088

[glass sleet]

Didn’t you hear? It’s lbbd7 kev eis Landon Fixa

[wise orbit]

no announcement yet

[glass sleet]

Trust me bro

[grave python]

Where did you hear that

[glass sleet]

My ass

Also I think it’s xzodyal over lbbd7

[teal hare]

Wonder who’s gonna snatch vestola hoping the sigma meta stays

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/i/status/2010827420132069824

Jan (@ab833909140024)

@Spacestation @Lethal_ow @OW_Esports tomorrow: "I go where lethal goes" ultraviolet on joining spacestation gaming

X · Jan 12, 2026, 9:33 PM

I want this to happen, it'd be the laziest announcement ever if it did

[glass sleet]

It’s sigma meta for pros?

Or ranked

[mortal cipher]

It would be funny tho

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-overwatch-owcs-ow-esports-overwatch-league-gif-2531812701793674120

[tepid ibex]

ATP content creator for usa

peak

[teal hare]

we dont really know yet but hed still be amazing id imagine

[glass sleet]

You want a sigma meta? I’m down for that tbh.

[teal hare]

not really but its lookin like itll be him or dva

[naive solar]

Why does everyone in this game leave because they die once

I've had leavers twice in a row 4 times in two nights and people who refuse to play and walk around the map

[thorny gazelle]

Rumour was team vision, idk if it's true

[hazy marsh]

fact

[hazy marsh]

wrong chat broski

[lethal schooner]

no it’s the right chat

he esports player

[teal hare]

Very much wrong chat

[naive solar]

There does not seem to be a right channel but I'd thought of all it would likely fit here as it is an actual question. because I'm also wondering if this is happening to anyone else

Although I could just be unlucky

Oh wait that is entirely my bad I didn't have many of the other channels

Although for future reference where should I put something like this?

[teal hare]

literally either other ow channel

ows or just ow

[sullen berry]

Nohill is getting paid this year

[sullen berry]

It will change of a roster this good at FaceIT doesn't make it to top 3

[shut sequoia]

https://teamliquid.com/games/overwatch

team liquid ow page doesnt show zeruhh???

other 4 still showing tho

[teal hare]

SSG got UV
Hawk lethal sugarfree uv and admiral (unless I’m missing an extra)

[pure bramble]

really hope Chopper stays tho

[grave python]

https://x.com/Spacestation/status/2011204655037182044

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

well, well, well, look who it is 👀

X · Jan 13, 2026, 10:32 PM

[pure bramble]

so the rumors were just true

[sullen berry]

W

[winter river]

ssg just signing everybody now

[cosmic socket]

dayum ssg looking elite

if liquid was just barely winning map 7s against old ssg they might be cooked now

[viscid hatch]

Is the roster
Hawk
Sugar free
Lethal
Ultraviolet
Admiral?

[wise orbit]

yea

[placid hemlock]

Really hope Ssg do big things now

[wise orbit]

possible they announce another person tomorrow

[placid hemlock]

Would be nice to see NA show up after last worlds

[wise orbit]

like a main tank or something

but that will most likely be their core roster

[teal hare]

Yep
Already posted the roster to

[teal hare]

They need to cause hawks got a pretty bad hero pool

He’s amazing on who he does play
But that’s it

[wise orbit]

the ssg roster will be insane for any non sym dva/rush meta

idk i think na will always struggle in international stuff because they dont have their own thing that they are best at

best bet would be like a hard dive meta and liquid locking tf in

but even then they're getting top 3 maybe 2 max

[keen dagger]

finally ssg avengers have been assembled

[wise orbit]

https://x.com/pilllpilll/status/2011141588475641907

pillpill (@pilllpilll)

stalk3r shared ranked replay codes!
GFEB07 and AY79MB

X · Jan 13, 2026, 6:21 PM

perhaps some people here would be interested

[viscid hatch]

I will kill kellan

[cosmic socket]

who im expecting from the rest of the na teams

[teal hare]

I hope seeker and his pages don’t come back

Soldier 86 shouldn’t be a me to get on a big partner team

[sullen berry]

Nah, this has been rumored for a while end of last year.

And they do the daily updated to remind you this team has been planning these posts for a while now

4/10 nobody had to post an embarrassing LFT while SSG posted some wack ass messages leading up to the good stuff

[winter river]

reaally

interesting

gotta keep up with esports more im so out of the loop

[sullen berry]

for Xmas eve i was in the OWTV discord, that's going to be the go-to for regular esports updates this year

[sullen berry]

we had a watch party when this was out and someone in the call casually says "*oh yeah I heard UV Admiral will probably be their support duo next season instead of LEP Cjay *"
https://youtu.be/qHV-ubwfWSc

still no news about who DSG & Dallas Fuel are talking to

expect something out of Team PEPs if they're going to maintain their French heritage or start changing it during midseason

[winter river]

icic

[thorny gazelle]

They should keep it, makes them special

[cosmic socket]

I don't expect anything out of peps

they prolly will try and keep a french core but the fact is that their just any many good french players rn

[alpine temple]

@echo crow

[teal hare]

And yet ssg was the most exciting so far cause we just waited to hear the next one
Ssg keeping some level of hype during the most boring time in owcs

[cosmic socket]

SSGs roster posts were the most interesting thing from the offseason because this offseason was particularly dry

the only pick ups weve heard from the whole offseason was SSGs new backline and tm picking up jaewoo

[wise orbit]

i dont think liquid will pick up another tank

[pallid spoke]

yeah infekted is hyperflex on tank anyway

If anything ssg might pick up a main tank

[wise orbit]

yea and i think specifically zeb would be a weird pick up since (correct me if im wong) he basically only plays ground tanks like ori, ram, sig, zar etc

all of which except zar infekted feels comfortable on

if you would pick up another tank it should probably be a dva guy or something

[pallid spoke]

Hot take I think 6 man rosters are fake as hell

bc splitting practice time is bad

the only reason to do it is if ur developing talent

[wise orbit]

i agree

[pallid spoke]

like sp1nt

but if ur building a roster to win it’s kind of fake

[wise orbit]

it has to be worth it from a flexibility stand point but most of the time its not

[pallid spoke]

yeah

[wise orbit]

ban after roster lock makes it even harder as well

[cosmic socket]

prolly not but it'd be cool

zeb is also just thanos on heroes infekted doesn't play

[wise orbit]

what heroes tho

[gleaming widget]

I love my ground king zeb

[wise orbit]

like the only meta relevant ground tank infekted is not good at is zar

[cosmic socket]

zar dva

[wise orbit]

breh

[cosmic socket]

actually wait idk if he plays dva i just assumed so

[wise orbit]

afaik hes ground tank only

[teal hare]

Yea this off seasons sucked asife from like some of the teams non ow related stuff

Some teams it’s very worth it like tm with youbi
And ssg should have another tank cause hawk is great but has a horrible hero pool

[cosmic socket]

ssg should either pick up rhyno or drag kellan back to na

[placid hemlock]

For the meta at the time dva and Zarya felt good tbh

[pallid spoke]

I mean dva won owcs just sugarbron don’t got a sym

the other thing is that both him and kronik are kind of high-resource players so one of them loses out

[placid hemlock]

True

But we seen sugar play sym a couple times in the early stages

Prob just couldnt make it work

[viscid hatch]

Kellan should play for no one

[grave python]

https://twitter.com/Spacestation/status/2011545683686539605?t=52GB0l6gd-RF4sXmtninYQ&s=19

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

no one in OWCS is safe

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X · Jan 14, 2026, 9:07 PM

[cosmic socket]

holy aura

[pure bramble]

i think it’s okay to have subs and it can’t be good if the team does it right

[wise orbit]

so this is their final roster then? interesting that they're staying with hawk as solo tank

as long as off tanks stay meta they'll be fine probably

[teal hare]

True but the moment the@meta changes you have a tank that can barely keep up

I love hawk but that hero pool

[pure bramble]

best thing he can do is pick up Hazard

[sullen berry]

Way to end it on the high note they wanted

[cosmic socket]

yeah solo hawk is definitely a liability

ssg have just gotten insanely lucky with meta

[grave python]

SSG is definitely getting stronger

[pallid spoke]

Hawk just needs to unlock the white boy primal

[robust patio]

na reach finals??

[glass sleet]

I don’t know why but these tweets from ssg are making me cringe

[glass sleet]

Maybe they could’ve gotten rhyno just in case. Is Chris still their coach? If so, it makes sense why hawk is the solo tank.

[placid hemlock]

God forbid an org tries to create hype during the most boring time of owcs

[stray jackal]

Thats a bit enthusiastic

[teal hare]

I feel like that’s the wrong word

[stray jackal]

o mb

delusional?

[cosmic socket]

if dva and zarya stay relevant and sym falls out of meta that's doable

[teal hare]

We do still have liquid to

Liquid and current ssg are both capable teams IF Syms gone

[thorny gazelle]

Liquid maybe has an advantage 1st stage since a lot of other teams have rosters changed so they will maybe not be as coordinated from the start

[placid hemlock]

yeah Zeta beat cr and falcons in the early stages and i thought they were so back until they werent

[sullen berry]

@robust patio korea decided to wake up

https://x.com/i/status/2011830190893416650

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X · Jan 15, 2026, 3:57 PM

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[grave python]

Ah

[torn portal]

I mean, it’s VERY good roster. With time it could go far

It’ll be slow to progress tho like i don’t see this team beating liquid first stage assuming liquid stay as they are

[wise orbit]

https://x.com/abdullahrisk/status/2011803076944970107

abdullah (@abdullahrisk)

روستر جيكي اكيد 100%
Finn haku alphayi ziyad lbbd7
بالنسبه للقادسيه
SirMajed,Galaa,Vestola

زياد وماجد كانوا بيروحون الرؤيه مع بعض بس ماتمت الصفقه، اوي الحمدلله انقذ الثنائي انهم مايتفرقون

احد الافرقه لعيبته طلعوا ...

X · Jan 15, 2026, 2:10 PM

apparently ziyad lbbd7 alphayi finn haku to geekay and vestola galaa sirmajed to alqad if the leak is true

would mean geekay is competing in emea this year as well

[grave python]

Would be great to see SirMajed in EMEA

[wise orbit]

alphayi lbbd7 is a rly fucking cool dps line up but finn haku sounds pretty rough lol

[grave python]

I kinda miss him

[wise orbit]

yea

alqad could do really well next stage depending on what dps they get

with sig being so strong and having vestola

[grave python]

Finn and AlphaYi in EMEA I have doubts honestly

[wise orbit]

yea we'll see

finn hasn't been looking that good recently and i dont think alphayis strengths matches his teams strength

assuming the rumour is true

[glass sleet]

That support line looks hella sus

These players not being on partnered orgs bro…

Partnered orgs are having a boot camp in South Korea before next season and I’m not sure if non partnered orgs are allowed to go. Maybe they are if they pay for expenses and stuff

No disrespect but willys fdgod and whoever else is on the team has partner privileges over lbbd7 ziyad Galaa

Wish geng stayed. They could’ve made a very good team this year.

Also won’t they have to play in swiss stage

[grave python]

I agree

[robust patio]

fair

[robust patio]

SPINT LEAVES haha

[mortal cipher]

lol

[static pond]

Same maybe they just don’t have good connections to eu or owcs Ist worth it to them

[glass sleet]

Idk why they’d invest then if that was the case

[static pond]

Same maybe they thought they get a kr spot or the bundles would bring in money

rivals Announced there formate n partnership program my guess in game skins n such they have the same orgs as us so owcs gotta step it up

Maybe gen g tryna get parther slot with them I know ntmr is trying to get a rivals partnership slot

[glass sleet]

Yeah but the thing is, you aren’t stuck in one game. Big orgs have teams in many esports

[static pond]

https://x.com/nico_oq/status/2010675573169979771?s=46

VARREL Nico (@nico_oq)

日本eスポーツアワード 2025
ありがとうございました！
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X · Jan 12, 2026, 11:29 AM

https://x.com/twisminds/status/2011864433530978414?s=46

Twisted Minds 🧠 (@TwisMinds)

قائد الساحة وصانع التأثير 🐐

أحمد اليوبي يتوج كأفضل لاعب FPS لموسم 2025 🏆⭐️

#TwistTheGame #SEFAwards

X · Jan 15, 2026, 6:13 PM

[static pond]

Idk that my guess

Gen g I think makes money is other games good

Idk about owcs

[glass sleet]

It’s been in OWCS for one season and they were very unlucky and performed poorly so they didn’t do well. Zeta also been performing badly but they’re still around

[glass sleet]

Only way he gets it and not Quartz is if Quartz told everyone to pick youbi over himself

[sullen berry]

Do we know if there's an official JP eSports Award post for Nico? This is pretty sick news along with Youbi for Saudi esports awards

[tepid ibex]

him getting this over someone like quartz, lbbd7 or ziyad is crazy 😭

[robust patio]

thats a small award compared to owcs

[glass sleet]

OWCS doesn’t do these awards. They only announce mvps during LANs and some players don’t even get anything for being mvp. Quartz didn’t get anything for winning mvp. Junbin won a porche watch and proper won 10k$

[robust patio]

quartz didnt get anything?

[placid hemlock]

Could be due to them losing to al qad when they had seicoe but rolling when youbi subbed in

Like them having the best symm helped big time

[robust patio]

@sullen berry @mortal cipher @grave python

FINN LEAVES ZETA

[deft wolf]

who?

[robust patio]

are you new to ow esports

[deft wolf]

No

what teams was he on

defiant? Guangzhou?

[wise orbit]

zeta

in owl he played on shock

[robust patio]

he was even on ow world cup roster

and even performed to finals in 2022 playoffs in shock

[static pond]

Ye but tbh the bundles were kinda bad lol the 3 options they pick n gen g skins were ugly

[static pond]

I heard about the Japanese esports

https://x.com/esportsawardsjp/status/1998681266322088167?s=46

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X · Dec 10, 2025, 9:08 AM

Heard ow won esports game of the year last year

[grave python]

I wonder which team he could play for

[glass sleet]

I agree

Crazy raccoon in apex legends is called crazy thieves

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[thorny gazelle]

Rumour is geekay

[weary scarab]

when is owcs starting bro....

[grave python]

We don't know exactly yet but there will be a bootcamp in February where all partners teams will face against each other in the s21 patch

[wise orbit]

bootcamp for partner teams is in february

stage 1 probably starts in march

[glass sleet]

At least it’s not 5 months off season

[grave python]

https://x.com/JDGaming/status/2012047259916255297

JD GAMING (@JDGaming)

JDG Overwatch 2 is back

X · Jan 16, 2026, 6:20 AM

[glass sleet]

Who dis

[grave python]

It's a chinese org

They disbanded in 2018 and they return in OW this year

[glass sleet]

I know that much but who were they

Before owl?

[grave python]

Idk

I guess they're partner

[glass sleet]

Whaaaaat

The ONE partnered org for China goes to JDG?

[grave python]

It's not official but I guess it's JDG

[glass sleet]

Welp weibo

[grave python]

We'll see anyway

[glass sleet]

Yeah

[grave python]

You can find them on Liquipedia

[ruby oracle]

I want pecs to come back already, February streams are so far away

TL all the way

[sacred gulch]

i gotta rep ssg

admiral deserves to be a winner

[mortal cipher]

Figured

[mortal cipher]

JDG is huge

[mortal cipher]

Jdg is more known from league, bit jdg is a big Chinese org the likes of WBG and BLG

[sacred gulch]

is fuel roster confirmed yet?

[mortal cipher]

I don’t think so

[sacred gulch]

edison could come back

hes not retired

[mortal cipher]

Maybe but idk

[ruby oracle]

Bring back the og burn roster

Whats Seagull up to?

[sacred gulch]

seagull aint un retiring

[ruby oracle]

Hell get XQC

[sacred gulch]

edison is realistic

[sacred gulch]

he’d be throwing

he hasnt played ow seriously in years

[ruby oracle]

I’d do anything to see him Winston run onto the stage again

[sacred gulch]

hes also a liability

[ruby oracle]

Suspended more than active

😂

[sacred gulch]

and he never stopped being childish even after escaping his abusive releationship

his personality is hes rich and others are poor

[ruby oracle]

But damn was he funny to watch

We go AGANEEEEEE

[grave python]

Yeah definitely

More orgs are coming this is huge

[grave python]

Man it would be insane

I'm looking forward to DF roster

[mortal cipher]

I kinda predicted jdg if another big Chinese roster came

Jdg is one of the 3-4 big Chinese orgs

[static pond]

https://x.com/overwatch2_news/status/2011755250798248347?s=46

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X · Jan 15, 2026, 11:00 AM

[glass sleet]

Falcons 37k damn

[grave python]

https://esports.overwatch.com/en-us/news/owcs-2026-season-competitive-details

[ruby oracle]

Didn’t they say going forward a portion of the skins will go towards the pool

Crowedfunding

[grave python]

World finals in December

That means they won't go to Stockholm this time

[cosmic socket]

no mention of more team skins

[grave python]

I hope for 16 teams in world finals this year

[teal hare]

Same

[carmine igloo]

That would be kinda fire ngl

[cosmic socket]

also where tf are the lan events gonna be

[grave python]

I guess they'll share it later

[cosmic socket]

bro

i need an na lan again

[carmine igloo]

More eu lans 🙏

[cosmic socket]

ik that owwc is happening in anaheim but idk im greedy

[carmine igloo]

One in the UK would be dope (I’m not biased at all)

[grave python]

Yeah cause we already had 16 teams for EWC with a 4-5 days format and since world finals will have a 5 days format it's the perfect opportunity

[carmine igloo]

Exactly, and PLEASE get rid of bo3 games

Admittedly they came up with some insane games so maybe it’s worth keeping

[grave python]

Fr fuck FT2

[viscid hatch]

This more than last year no? Good news??

[cosmic socket]

i think ft2 is fine for upper bracket round 1

gets a lot of boring predictable games out of the way

a team getting eliminated from a ft2 in lower bracket is pretty bs tho

[static pond]

According to wiki nope it the same amount

Falcons got 3k less tho

This gran finals

[ruby oracle]

We did see a 18k increase in viewership though

[static pond]

Last year nrg got 40k for the same placement as falcons this year

[ruby oracle]

Also mid season and clash prize pool increased

[grave python]

I like that they directly confirmed that world finals will have a 5 days format

Cause world finals 2025 had basically a 3 days format like 2024 but they changed it and it seems they know that the 3 days format for worlds is not great

[cosmic socket]

ssg not going to the bootcamp

[sacred gulch]

I need ssg lucio pls overwatch

admiral the goat

[grave python]

SSG not in bootcamp

What the fuck

[viscid hatch]

😢😢😢

[viscid hatch]

Bro

[pallid spoke]

look at my superteam dawg

[sacred gulch]

sorry what does thst mean

limited partner slots or sumn?

[cosmic socket]

they opted out of it id assume

[sacred gulch]

but what is the bootcamp

[cosmic socket]

a bootcamp in korea for partner teams

gonna be a single elim tournament as well

[sacred gulch]

oh

[torn portal]

I don’t think the team is in desperate of a need for it like your DSG, DF, VP, etc teams that are brand new or completely rebuilt. Ssg as a roster seems very plug and play

Chris already knows his london boys, UV has already been on a team with every player on the team

[sacred gulch]

in that case idk why TL is there too

[torn portal]

It’s pretty simple

[cosmic socket]

unter dropped some ssg lore in a stream where he basically said he and lenny wanted a chiller team in ssg cuz he had more of a life and was tired of tryharding on toronto all last year

[sacred gulch]

tl is still a super roster in terms of na

[torn portal]

They just wanted to. I never said that ssg wouldn’t benefit still

[sacred gulch]

fair

[torn portal]

I’m just saying that ssg isn’t fucked for not boot camping

[cosmic socket]

not going to the bootcamp would fit that

[torn portal]

Who knows tho TL could be differenter still

[cosmic socket]

tl aint gonna be different

[torn portal]

like idk they wanna get zeb reps in or smth if they sign him

Who knows

[sacred gulch]

zeruhh might be burned out if anything

but flex dps are dime a dozen too

[cosmic socket]

zebheads stand up

[torn portal]

zeb could soooo work on TL

[sacred gulch]

zeruhh seems to be fine tho

[torn portal]

as a zarya guy

[sacred gulch]

but the other guys should
be on roster unless its an emergency

[cosmic socket]

does he play dva at all?

[torn portal]

zeb infekted is white jasm1ne donghak

[cosmic socket]

holy true

[torn portal]

well he has casores coaching

[sacred gulch]

infekted def better on the ot role

i dont see him much on mt

[cosmic socket]

yeah i was gonna say

[robust patio]

Korea schedules

[cosmic socket]

i think the whiteboy winston aficionado could pick up dva and or zar

[sacred gulch]

idk if infekted has a sig

[sacred gulch]

100%

[grave python]

https://x.com/OWCEsports/status/2012273366997115230

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports)

With more details on #OWCS2026 recently revealed, North America, EMEA, Japan, and Pacific are slated to lose team slots under the new Stage format.

North America, EMEA, and Pacific are slated to go down from 8 teams per stage to 6 teams. Japan is slated to go down from 12 teams

X · Jan 16, 2026, 9:18 PM

I wanna know why they reduce slots

[cosmic socket]

dhillducks

[grave python]

Like why 6 teams

[torn portal]

Granted his hero pool is basically infekted if he could zarya

[grave python]

Just bc of Dhillducks ?

[torn portal]

Dude off tank is just dogshit infekted clears on ball winston

[sacred gulch]

ive never seen infekted zarya in recent memory

so idk

[cosmic socket]

well the bottom 2 seeds in pretty much every region was pretty clearcut which led to some really boring regular season games

[sacred gulch]

hes arguably in talks for best haz in na too

its prob cuffa tho

[cosmic socket]

infekted???

[sacred gulch]

during haz meta he played out of his mind

[grave python]

I still don’t think it was necessary to reduce slots. Dhillducks is just not competitive at all.

[cosmic socket]

what stage 1 did you watch

[grave python]

But we’ll see

[sacred gulch]

i mean before that

[cosmic socket]

tl not making lan was partly because infekted couldnt hazard

[sacred gulch]

i meant the last lan

i thought he did fine

or did he really just play that much ram

[cosmic socket]

they might not be competitive in owcs but you gotta remember they faced promo relegation twice and came back both times

if thats the 8th best team in na i dont want the extra slots for them

[grave python]

Yeah idk

[sacred gulch]

promo relegation is cool until we see a content creator make it to a stage

[cosmic socket]

same with emea

[grave python]

Maybe they’ll increase the slot again next year when we’ll have more partner teams

[cosmic socket]

i also have a perminant grudge against the ducks cuz they made tr33 tank my fantasy roster when i was in like top 10 at the time

[sacred gulch]

I think one year bogur and other streamers made it to t3 before getting annhilated by a partner team

[grave python]

The thing is that partner teams are already qualified for stage 1

NA has 4 partner teams

[sacred gulch]

t3-t2 idk
how it actually fully works

but they started from bottom and was like 8-4 and then went against like ssg or something

didnt stand a chance

getting that close at all is still worrisome tho

all i remember was landon was diffing aspen

[ruby oracle]

Wait why did they lower slots

Maybe to make room for china in WC?

[teal hare]

They matched against m80 when they where nas top team
Fastro was on the roster

[teal hare]

I don’t know honestly it’s gonna make the non Korea events so much shorter now

[sacred gulch]

bogur?

[teal hare]

Japan having 12 slots was wild though

[sacred gulch]

yeah that was def one of the losses

like i said its bad
a ragtag band of streamers can even get that far

[teal hare]

Yeee
Bogur ml7 eskay and some others matched against m80 and got hammered into the ground

[teal hare]

T3 is mostly gonna just be random top level players with some coordination

Like that’s just expected from any game

Dhillducks probably would have wiped the floor with there team all the same to

[sacred gulch]

is qualifying out of that
start t2 or just upper bracket/lower bracket

cause that means bogurs team made it to t2 and died if so

which again

is insane

[teal hare]

Making it to t2 and dying is expected of a lot of the t3 teams that make it out of qualifiers

[sacred gulch]

for some random ass streamers tho

im down with slots being lower

thats too close

[teal hare]

I’m not really
Geng is a good example of why it’s kinda mid that the slots are lowered

Geng went from a t2 team to almost top3 in emea

[sacred gulch]

if i ever have to be subjected to flats on an owcs stream I will be bleaching my eyes

match: Flats: “Rein mirror”?
crowd erupts

[teal hare]

If you watch qualifiers you’ll literally get everything (especially now)
From an all silver team to a top 4 level team

That’s what’s gonna suck the qualifier tournament is gonna be so so unbelievable ass this year

For everyone involved
Shitlow to the best of the best

There are no limits other then how many players you can have

[sacred gulch]

we just simply improve as a playerbase

bouta see lily and klombunc on the big screen

[teal hare]

The new changes taking away the rank requirement just sucks in every way
There’s no other way to see that

[sacred gulch]

they prob think some people just dont play comp

but no we gonna have Team 5 bronzes

[teal hare]

If your entering a qualifier for owcs and you don’t play comp
Then don’t enter

[sacred gulch]

i could geniunely believe a type of player who only scrims exists

but still

[teal hare]

The qualifiers gonna be a mess with people rage quitting cause that random plat player got mad at his team and left

[sacred gulch]

didnt this happen in a jay3 face it thing

[teal hare]

A lot of waste of time matches more then ever before finna happen

[sacred gulch]

console player

[teal hare]

That’s a personally ran thing to
Not the BIGGEST and most important tournaments qualifier
If it’s an annoyance and problem in that context it’s gonna be even worse in this one

The other thing I’m not happy about is na had a clear bottom ONE
the other bottom 2 team we had did hold there own against 6-4 decently better then expected

We just also had dhillducks

[sacred gulch]

“We have confirmed Team Charlie and the Kirks peak rank is Silver”

“Yes they did ban Rein on Gibraltar”

[teal hare]

Ok I need to see these qualifier games just to see some of these ass bans

“Yes they banned sombra into a brawl only team”

[sacred gulch]

I hope charlie and the kirks cant actually be used

funny as it is

be creative with your memes

[teal hare]

See this could actually work as a ban if your protecting a Winston ban

[sacred gulch]

true

[teal hare]

Like unironically the ban could make sense
Dva would be better but still

[sacred gulch]

due to the one role system

[wise orbit]

Lowkey

for na it makes sense

[sacred gulch]

i think ranked in general should have esports bans

[wise orbit]

but for emea ts rly bad

[sacred gulch]

and just locking them until masters or diamond

[wise orbit]

like some na regular season games were so fucking unserious lol

[teal hare]

Dhillducks generally where the fault of that but like
The other team wasn’t nearly as bad
And I mean by the end the 6-5th placed teams kinda proved themselves to be big competitors

I really hope we get Sakura again I think they auto qualify though

Cause they where top 4

Emea had the issue of the only team the bottom 2 was competitive against was the bottom 2
Like
Both regions bottom 2 where noticeably worse by miles

Japan ever having 12 slots is the funniest part

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/i/status/2012219410488959199 lmao

Chengdu Hunters Facts (@CDHuntersFacts)

Kaneki’s Bilibili icon is a picture of Oguri Cap from Umamusume: Cinderella Gray.

He recently changed his username to JDG_Kaneki.

X · Jan 16, 2026, 5:44 PM

And here i thought bro was retiring

He's just playing for the #2 China team at bootcamp thanks to the invite system

[glass sleet]

Crazy raccoon in apex legends right now are called crazy thieves. Both 100t and cr are collabing

[cosmic socket]

i bet a lot of the sakura players are gonna be on dallas dsg or ntmr

especially xomba

[teal hare]

Honestly as much as I expect them to be in Dallas
I kinda hope not I wanna see Sakura succeed

[cosmic socket]

like the org or that specific roster

[teal hare]

The org and roster

Na needs more teams that grow stage to stage without fully changing

[cosmic socket]

ehh

i agree for the most part but there are glaring weaknesses on that team

[teal hare]

That’s what more practice as a team could iron out
That being said it’s na ow that’ll almost never happen

[cosmic socket]

like is this team really going anywhere with zs and the new crowned ajax king in the backline

[teal hare]

Lep?

I think

[cosmic socket]

natsuki

[teal hare]

I honestly don’t remember that backline at all

[cosmic socket]

they were pretty subpar

[teal hare]

Oh
I wouldn’t call them the newly crowned Ajax king
Viol2t and Lep are both still playing

I think the other issue Sakura has is they’re
Insane at orisa comps

And
Yes that’s about it

[cosmic socket]

natsuki maybe had the flashiest ajax ive ever seen

[teal hare]

Viol2ts had to have flashier

[cosmic socket]

on kings against ssg

[teal hare]

Oooh
Yea no individual ajaxes thag was the coolest

If they would have landed they would unironically have won that fight

[cosmic socket]

like i get wanting cores to stay together does that team not immediately do better with a better backline

and a more flexible tank or extra tank

[teal hare]

I think that’s unironically also one of the better na backlines currently

[teal hare]

Def need an extra

Cause you only really have like 3 options for na backlines
And Sakura are probably 4th

But then you’ve got uv and admiral the goats of na supports

[grave python]

https://x.com/baileypizza/status/2012316189398380923?s=46

Bailey (@BaileyPizza)

@findirath_ow I want to let you and others know that youre seen and heard with this. As always well continue to see how this shakes out through the stage and year, and plan accordingly in the future. Please do always continue to share your thoughts

I understand that this is frustrating to see

X · Jan 17, 2026, 12:09 AM

[stray jackal]

Youbi got fps player award?? crazy

Nah

Tf did he even do?

last i saw he was a bum, on a team with quartz who carried him all the way

[carmine igloo]

Wait what happened??

[grave python]

They can’t explain why they reduced slots

[carmine igloo]

Ohhhhhh

[grave python]

They’ll have to increase the slots in the future since we’ll have more partner teams anyway

[split flume]

next year it just gonna be 4 teams

[sullen berry]

I dont even question how weird this award goes to him, either.

For every one "goat 🐐" posters for youbi there's another arguing for Quartz, which i find really funny
https://x.com/i/status/2011884929689534499

\ (@MhpIm4)

@Saudi_Esports @Youbi_OW حرفيا كوارتز MVP بكل البطولات غير ان يوبي نص الموسم دكة 💀

X · Jan 15, 2026, 7:35 PM

[stray jackal]

Right?
Quartz was infinitely better then him

Goddamn backbone was better then him

[carmine igloo]

Ooh i don’t know if id go that far 😭

Watching backbone play kills me

[stray jackal]

His reaper is kind of nice though

[carmine igloo]

Reminds me of the last owwc

Bro single handedly threw GBs games

[sullen berry]

"Literally Quartz MVP in all tournaments, except for Youbi, who spent half the season on the bench"

[stray jackal]

Yea, it's bullshit