esports-discussion

[pure bramble]

they both should be partner

[cyan hazel]

Give em all of the mid NA off tanks

Just a team of off tanks

[grave python]

The problem is only that they only went from 9 to 11 teams

Would have been great if they went from 9 to like 18

[pure bramble]

I don’t really like fuel tbh

[cyan hazel]

Well also china

[cyan hazel]

Nobody does tbh

[mystic orchid]

coluge

[pure bramble]

at least I have a chance to rock that Dallas fuel skin I got ages ago

[mystic orchid]

comes back

[grave python]

True

But we could have get more

[cyan hazel]

I agree

[grave python]

Also I want to know the format for 2026

I hope we'll know soon

[pure bramble]

the faceit stuff was kinda confusing

[grave python]

I'm praying for a esport page in game like NetEase did in China ffs

[mystic orchid]

Or what if Emea 2026 roster: Vestola, Jaewoo, Xzodyal, LeeSooMin and another support I can’t think rn

[cyan hazel]

True

[pure bramble]

honestly I see DSG or Fuel just picking up scraps from Geekay and maybe NTMR

[cyan hazel]

They are still gonna exist bruh

[grave python]

There was a lot of noise about it Blizzard needs to do something

[cyan hazel]

They just aren't partner

[pure bramble]

yea but they could probably afford to just buy Geekay

[grave python]

https://x.com/Proto_VI/status/1991849493180862857

Proto VI (@Proto_VI)

The OWCS Finals now has in-game page for Chinese players which includes with the schedule, an mini events (play game to earn points in this event) and "betting" (to gain points in this event) along with being able to get OWCS skins which includes ones that are yet to be released.

X · Nov 21, 2025, 12:41 PM

This is sick

[cyan hazel]

That's so cool

[grave python]

There's a pred system

You can earn OWCS point if your preds are correct

And buy skins

[mystic orchid]

Some org needs to assemble Vestola, Sauna, Xzodyal, LeeSooMin & Maka

[grave python]

NetEase are goat for this

[mystic orchid]

I just want Vestola on a strong team in 2026

[pure bramble]

that WAE backline 😮‍💨

[cyan hazel]

He doesn't deserve it

[humble token]

Agree

[mystic orchid]

huh?

[cyan hazel]

Vestola needs to retire bruh

[pure bramble]

Vestola Jaewoo team up

[humble token]

Vestola is kinda washed

[pure bramble]

recency bias

[cyan hazel]

Yeah. He recently has been washed

[pure bramble]

Vestola still good just not that good

[mystic orchid]

Literally went 7-0 before VP started messing with the roster

[cyan hazel]

Because he still forces sigma

[grave python]

Wdym "messing"

First they were forced to have a 6th player

And Eisgnom is literally better than Vestola

[humble token]

Longevity bias is worse

[pure bramble]

we saw Vestola like once

[cyan hazel]

Eisgnom is better tbh

[cyan hazel]

True

[humble token]

Fair enought

[pure bramble]

I’m not gonna call him washed when we barely see the guy

[mystic orchid]

No proof yet. He literally fed his brains out in those last losses

[pure bramble]

i think he’s worth a chance at least

[cyan hazel]

He got benched

[humble token]

But like stage 2 he wasnt that good

[cyan hazel]

Better than vestola going sigma on second point eichenwalde and throwing that match away

[pure bramble]

i mean when you have up and coming talent like Eis it makes sense. Eis is insane

[cyan hazel]

Besides eis has an actual hero pool

[mystic orchid]

I mean whatever imaginary scenario helps you fall asleep at night I guess…

[humble token]

Ves is like only dva ram sig

[pure bramble]

Vestola just has it rough cause he’s in a region when they’re so many good off tanks 😭

[cyan hazel]

I'll find the video

[pure bramble]

he just doesn’t stand out

[humble token]

That the point

[mystic orchid]

If it’s the Alq match that was a mental boom game

[pure bramble]

he’s reliable when he’s able to play in his metas

[mystic orchid]

obviously cherry picking

[pure bramble]

he just doesn’t have a crazy Haz or Dva like Ziyad

[cyan hazel]

https://youtu.be/Wz6psqsuJG8?si=apRhh1zKv8TPprfy

[humble token]

Oh ye he pulled sig one map

Almost won but needed to swap after mei

[cyan hazel]

He went the zero high ground control character on eichenwalde 2nd point defense

[mystic orchid]

Yeah that game was obviously a bad one with a quick mental boom after 1st map

[cyan hazel]

There's other issues, primarily his hero pool but like

[humble token]

Tbh it was working until mei swap

[mystic orchid]

Ziyad has an even smaller pool yet he is able to prosper with a team around him btw

[cyan hazel]

It's still bad by principle alone

[humble token]

I wouldnt say smaller

[cyan hazel]

Ziyad can play Dva, Ram, and Zarya that's all you need from an off tank

[humble token]

He can haz dva ram zar

[cyan hazel]

Vestola can't play anyone but ram sigma

[humble token]

Or was tvnt the haz

I forgot

[mystic orchid]

Literally same pool as Vestola?? You’re actually brain damaged lwk

[cyan hazel]

Idr

[mystic orchid]

You’re trolling LOL

[humble token]

I am be honest vestola has only the pop when he plays sigma

Rest is just mid

[cyan hazel]

Vestola can't play Dva, his Zarya is extremely average for EU

[pure bramble]

His Dva is okay

[mystic orchid]

”Can’t play Dva” is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen

[humble token]

He van play dva but is mid

[mystic orchid]

His Dva is better than his Ram or Mauga

VP just never wanted to play Dva comps

[humble token]

Any tank can play mauga

[pure bramble]

yea that was kinda weird

[mystic orchid]

Not true

[grave python]

What

[cyan hazel]

I have never seen a single good vestola Dva game that's better than any other EU Dva and I watch most VP games because I watch galaa povs

[cyan hazel]

Not true at all

Guxue

[grave python]

Mauga is one of the most counterable tank in the game

[humble token]

He beat falcon once using him

[cyan hazel]

Once.

I watched that game, it was more falcons selling than guxue cooking

[mystic orchid]

Because VP just doesn’t play it often. Where were you in OWL?

[humble token]

Its against falcons so not like he is gonna farm em

[cyan hazel]

I was a Seoul and Spark fan, I didn't watch vestolas team but owcs history matters more

[humble token]

Recency bias is underrated

[mystic orchid]

Yeah and he most definitely can play Dva end of story lol

[humble token]

Like owl doesent matter atp

[edgy crown]

Sorry I missed the OWCS finals today how tf did both Korean teams lose?

[mystic orchid]

go on liquipedia bruh

[grave python]

TM and QAD are too strong

[cosmic socket]

ive seen plenty of mauga drunk driving

[humble token]

Landon clutched up, quartz was lobby admin

[cyan hazel]

Exactly

[cosmic socket]

also did they announce any of the 2026 lan locations or nah

[edgy crown]

I more meant I wasn't expecting the gap to be so big that it was 3-1 and 3-0

[humble token]

Ok maybe hadi

[cosmic socket]

besides owwc happening in anaheim obv

[grave python]

I'm actually shocked how TM defeated Falcons

Like 3-0 wtf

[edgy crown]

Same

[humble token]

Cr game was kinda close

[mystic orchid]

Mu fault I misread ur message

[edgy crown]

Nah you good. Ididn't write it very well.

[grave python]

I don't want to say that Falcons were bad cause they finished 4th

But this is not the Falcons I once knew

[humble token]

I thought they would atleast win sym ban but aperantly they went 6-0 in scrims

[grave python]

Koreans have no answer against Sym synergy

Mostly against QAD and TM

[vestal spoke]

i dont want any emea to win

emea gotta die

if they win we wont hear the end of it for the next 8 years

[pure bramble]

I hope Xzodyal goes back to peps

[vestal spoke]

cr please save us

[humble token]

They did in ewc when it was harder sym meta

[grave python]

Peps needs a solid roster

[edgy crown]

I don't know about today but they aren't playing their best roster imo. They also cannot play against sym and EU loves the sym

[pure bramble]

Xzodyal and Eis back on peps will make me happy

[grave python]

Yeah

[edgy crown]

They are trying alot of thing and I think it's messing up chemistry

[humble token]

Xzodyal needs better team badly

And better internet

[grave python]

I don't even know why regional playoffs aren't in lan

[edgy crown]

So does zeb and xomba(if xomba learns another character)

[cyan hazel]

Heesang venture junball I feel

[grave python]

Regional playoffs should not be online at all

[humble token]

Ye xomba has potential

[cyan hazel]

Throwback to the dude that called xomba a Hitscan player

[humble token]

U can still out play it

[cyan hazel]

You can out play any comp in the game

[humble token]

Uh True but i woulndt say that comp is a hard counter

[edgy crown]

Yeah but so far he's only good on tracer

[cyan hazel]

Yeah but it's the closest thing to one

[humble token]

Ig

[cyan hazel]

I wish T1 won lowers against falcons and Cr beat Al Qad

[humble token]

I think on the right map it could work

[edgy crown]

I think Al Qadsiah will win this year tbh

[cyan hazel]

I mean venture will always be played

[humble token]

Yea but not ball

[cyan hazel]

They're the 3 seed among these teams I'm sorry

[vestal spoke]

@errant karma one of my friends found me off my tweets again

[edgy crown]

We shall see.

[humble token]

Cr looks somewhat competitve

Compare to falcons

[cyan hazel]

I think CR pulls out the most fuckass 3-0 in the finals

[edgy crown]

I've heard lip is thinking of retiring soon tho

[cyan hazel]

Like just the most ridiculous sweep

[grave python]

Shu as well

[edgy crown]

Yeah

[humble token]

Shu to

Damn

[cyan hazel]

Yeah goodbye CR dynasty

[humble token]

Without shu

That team wont be the same

[cyan hazel]

Without lip bruh

[grave python]

Honestly I don't even believe CR will make it to grand final

[edgy crown]

CR dies without both imo

[cyan hazel]

Lip is arguably harder to replace

[pure bramble]

Maka and Ade

[edgy crown]

Heesang and junball cannot carry

[cosmic socket]

yeah didnt wae break up

[humble token]

Currently ye maybe, they could grab ade from wae

[grave python]

Lip and Shu are so great that they can't be replaced

[cosmic socket]

just snatch ade

[cyan hazel]

Chorong is the 2nd best ms in the game

[cyan hazel]

Oh damn lfg

[edgy crown]

That's true

[grave python]

I'm gonna miss OWCS until January

[humble token]

If landon plays like this again

[grave python]

He was insane on Bap

[cosmic socket]

i wanna know the lan locations

[cyan hazel]

You won't agree on #1 with me though

[cosmic socket]

they didnt announce that at all right

[humble token]

The kiri was good to

[grave python]

They'll announce it later

I think they said that they want to make more live events right ?

[edgy crown]

Go on

[grave python]

Overwatch 2 is already set to return at EWC in 2026

[cyan hazel]

Skewed from t1

[vestal spoke]

whos the best lucio oat

[grave python]

Kellex (jk Idk)

[humble token]

Fastro

[cyan hazel]

Ummmm probably Chiyo or sum

[cyan hazel]

Glaze

[edgy crown]

He's up there 100%

[pure bramble]

Viol2t pre dementia

[humble token]

Ok u got it

[pure bramble]

Leejaegon before everything became a burning memory

[humble token]

But idk moth?

Oh

Ye

Leejaegon

Def

[edgy crown]

My favourite ms to watch rn is MAKA

[humble token]

Leejaegon was good until owcs

[humble token]

Isnt he flex

[pure bramble]

Leejaegon tower

[cyan hazel]

He's better on flex but his ms play ain't bad

[vestal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[edgy crown]

He plays both

[cyan hazel]

Skewed is my favourite player in owcs right now

[vestal spoke]

i see what you did there

[edgy crown]

His flex is better but I love watching his ms

[teal hare]

Why the hell Sakura or ntmr not getting partnered but two random teams who haven’t shown they’re gonna be good yet are dawg

I’m fine with it but like
Really

[cyan hazel]

Don't complain about the random teams, complain about the lack of slots

[teal hare]

The lack of slots sucks to but there are multiple teams that deserve that shit more

[edgy crown]

Ntmr is still crazy to me. But I believe it has something to do with other games too

Ken like ssg and team falcons do CS-Go and rocket league and are pretty big

Outside of overwatch

[teal hare]

Maybe but Sakura was 4th in na this time around and they aren’t there

[cyan hazel]

Lack of slots has always been the primary issue

[teal hare]

Ntmr does have many other partnerships

[edgy crown]

Yeah that's why I'm confused about ntmr

Sakura I kinda get

Bcz obviously partnership is more a money thing than a performance thing

[teal hare]

Yes but even with that issue if new slots are given or switched around it should go to the teams that have already played and earned there own spots
Not teams that haven’t done anything to earn a default spot into owcs immediately without needing to qualify until the partnership ends

[teal hare]

Sakura could be pink skins
You can make solid money on pink skins

Especially cause peps has one so it really doesn’t make sense why na has two slots being thrown at teams that very well could end up doing nothing

[edgy crown]

True but who actually buys the OWCS skins tbh

I love getting a ram and venture skin!!!

[cyan hazel]

Wbg is already getting partnered (almost certainly)

[cosmic socket]

yall think china is getting 2 or 3 partner teams?

[cyan hazel]

2

But idk

[cosmic socket]

i could see 3

weibo cc and roc

[cyan hazel]

Of course but like blizzard

[cursive temple]

lwk think it might just be weibo and cc

[cyan hazel]

Yeah me too

Or weibo and ROC

[teal hare]

True but I assumed they’d be orange and red or somethin

[teal hare]

I did

[cyan hazel]

I hope to God they're pink

[teal hare]

Same
If not imma be even more lissed about disguised team being there

Dallas uas at least a little more of an excuse to me for being there cause they’re a legacy name

[cyan hazel]

I can understand that one, building tons of hype and shit

[teal hare]

I guess but
I’d seriously rather a team that deserves it personally
I understand that hype and all but like

[edgy crown]

Idk why it is t like the owl skins tho

[teal hare]

Probably just due to them not being NEEDED so they haven’t out much work toward it
Best hope I have is they start putting more in there but it also might be because you can’t earn them for free

And releasing what would he HUNDREDS of dollars worth of skins per team vs the ones you could earn for free by watching

[errant karma]

yep

[cursive temple]

yeah we know fs that weibos gonna be there

[pure bramble]

PLEASE

Pge gaps Quartz in like a year trust

[teal hare]

Definitely in death count

[pure bramble]

Quartz can’t match his aura

Pge is the savior of NA

[teal hare]

Xzodyal just needs better internet imo

That’s it

[sullen berry]

Teleporter, 100%

[midnight harness]

The C9 was crazy from T1

watching the rebroadcast

[reef seal]

Sym to is so broken tbh

[midnight harness]

What's the context behind it?

[reef seal]

Sym teleporter is broken

With the health perk

[midnight harness]

I don't play her so lemme check wiki

Oh what the hell

[reef seal]

It’s infinite rotation as well on a short cd

Or well not short

But it’s not that long either

And you can keep going through the tp

and wall is also super good too it just like nullifies half the map for the enemy and you can shoot through the wall too

[midnight harness]

Wall?

[reef seal]

Her ultimate

[midnight harness]

Oh yeah hell

[reef seal]

She’s a rlly rlly good hero atm

They should nerf the perk and add max usage to tp or just remove it from the game

[midnight harness]

Well, I'm more interesed in Ashe, I'm seeing Lip playing her in OWCS rn

[reef seal]

Ashe is good in ranked atm they gave her infinite range

I don’t think OWCS is played on latest patch

[midnight harness]

I just saw her being played rn on King's Row

Cr

[reef seal]

[midnight harness]

Yeah, it's lowk good

The amount of Kiriko and Lucio being spammed is insane

[stoic juniper]

They refuse to make anyone else viable

[midnight harness]

Kiriko is the most spoiled character ever

I barely started playing overwatch and when I wasn't, I could already see around the media how much she was spoiled

[stoic juniper]

It’s not that

If kiri is bad the support roster is just awful

[midnight harness]

Hmm

[stoic juniper]

Kiri being bad would be terrible for ow

[midnight harness]

I see

[stoic juniper]

Esp in its current state where everyone needs to do the most possible at all times

[midnight harness]

Like dmg and heal?

Or wdym

[stoic juniper]

Space taking off angling whatever

Kiri is the best at controlling space because she duels well

[midnight harness]

Got it, Kiriko is good at that

Yeah

[stoic juniper]

And also can get out safely

[midnight harness]

She can TP away through walls if it gets bad

[stoic juniper]

Juno can’t do that; not viable
Ana can’t take space; not viable
Baptiste can kinda fight for an angle but it’s more taxing

Illari is dead asf as a hero

Zen is pretty mid rn

[midnight harness]

I wanna get this out the way

[stoic juniper]

The Lucio overlords at blizzard hq didn’t let wuyang keep meta for long

[midnight harness]

Mercy is a joke, yes?

[stoic juniper]

The character?

She’s pretty bad yeah

[midnight harness]

yeah

She can't proviade any heals

Just to one person and it's so slow at that rate too

[stoic juniper]

Not about healing numbers

[midnight harness]

Really?

[stoic juniper]

She doesn’t enable more than one person, she can’t fight for herself & her kit is situational

Maybe if it was a hard poke meta they could squeeze mercy in

On the condition that they play circuit without any gimmicks like speed or tp

And it’s just a flat sniper duel

Because even if ur sniper dies a 2nd chance will win fight

[midnight harness]

Right

I see

Also, what's this "enable" term you're using

I have an idea of what you're saying

[stoic juniper]

Let’s people do stuff usually better

[midnight harness]

Example being a damaged boosted DPS

Yes?

[midnight harness]

I'm also seeing DVA being used quite a bit

[viscid hatch]

I would like to see how much the support diversity would increase if they just nerfed kiriko

[stoic juniper]

its not a

nerf kiriko thing

its a

make everyone else useable outside of a single niche

[crisp prairie]

No

[viscid hatch]

That’s power creep… kiriko does need a nerf

5v5 also isn’t kind to niche heroes

[stoic juniper]

even if you nerf kiriko, what would you run that fills that role?

[viscid hatch]

Exactly, she does too much

She’s been meta almost all of ow2 pro

[viscid hatch]

How????

Kiriko being worse would open the door for other supports

She’s overtuned

‘Terrible for ow’ as if a hero who could make people invulnerable and 2 tap and you teleport across the map is fun to play against lmao

[lavish thunder]

there’s deadass not a bad part abt her whole kit

literally

she def is way too overtuned

[viscid hatch]

The cleanse plus the healing output plus the damage output plus one of, if not THE BEST ult in the game, and a teleport that cleanses yourself is crazy all in one hero

[lavish thunder]

don’t forget her small hit box and her wall climb passive which aren’t crazy but just honorable mentions

to how broken she is

[viscid hatch]

It all adds together

The maps where she is banned, have the most support variety right now in the playoffs

[livid mica]

I just want yall to know my life is lowkey complete im friends with Vega, CJ, Rupal and some other ones I’m forgetting I have their number, Discord and IG my life is so random I love it

[viscid hatch]

That sounds cool

[cursive temple]

tell rupal hes my favorite indian

[livid mica]

Yeah don’t worry I called him the KING of Bangladesh and he was so happy

[cursive temple]

wait scratch that

hes my favorite asian

dont say indian ima get cancelled

[livid mica]

Also I found out so many fucking secrets about TL and SSG that I’m not aloud too leak so that is lowkey weighing on me

[cursive temple]

nah bro u got an nda?

tell sugarfree hes a joke

[livid mica]

😭

[livid mica]

Nah bro he’s so fucking chill all bro cares about is his girl, ow and his family

[cursive temple]

bro i remember seeing him get interviewed not too long ago and bro had his arms behind his head and was acting all nonchalant

I WAS CRYING

[livid mica]

Yeah he’s a little bit like that btw accept my Friend request you lowkey know ball

[cursive temple]

hes so funny

love when he locks in

[livid mica]

I know I’m meeting PGE tomorrow because he didn’t wanna come out with us tonight

[cursive temple]

long day for him 😭

[livid mica]

Yeah idk how hes surviving in sweden without wingstop

[cursive temple]

LMFAOOOOO

ik for a fact everyones craving it

I can already tell pge and zeruhh drooling for their fast food

[cosmic socket]

infekted is DL

i always knew it...

[spark terrace]

habinston

[vestal spoke]

pge in sweden what

[vestal spoke]

if i ever get guxues wechat my life is complete

[cursive temple]

LMAOOOOO i can already see you fanboying hard

[vestal spoke]

god please do not let either emea teams win

please

make it cr

idc

i love korea

please bro

bring me the Korea

please do not let the saudislop win

[errant karma]

real

[errant karma]

need me topdragons number

[cyan hazel]

Give me the skewed WhatsApp bro 🙏

[humble token]

I wll use chatgpt ti find it

[sullen berry]

stream is live

28x Matches between Team Falcons and Crazy Raccoon since the rivalry began

funny, because I only count 24 - the other 4 matches were probably under wac

[humble token]

Wont be able to watch the start of this match ssdly

I predict tm 3-2

[glass sleet]

I knew it. I called it. Seicoe in against Alqad

Seicoe is good on echo

[spark terrace]

3 games today?

[sullen berry]

1 upper finals

then lower vs CR

developer section with Vendetta showmatch

then it's grand finals time

[slate thunder]

i would love both emea teams to be in finals

they always have banger series

[slate thunder]

what time is it at

i hope its like 2pm

because thats when i get off work

[sullen berry]

have you ever seen the owcs voice channel before

the time in there is in your local time

[slate thunder]

what

[sullen berry]

the livestream has just started

[slate thunder]

no i dont pay attention to that shit

[sullen berry]

well somebody asked for it

[slate thunder]

i dont rly care abt anything but the grand finals today either

in 4 hours?

Its actually at 2

thats thanos

LOL

im off work in time for it

[sullen berry]

yeah I'm sleeping through ts

until finals map 4

[spark terrace]

Watching e sport tournaments in the US just kills your sleep schedule man

[mystic orchid]

Bruh I have work today perfectly in the timespan of the matches

[slate thunder]

lol shitters

[sullen berry]

it was a good map fiver

[slate thunder]

not rly, more like watching eu tournaments does it

[slate thunder]

theyre shitters

🤷‍♀️

champ korea = gold eu

[sullen berry]

oh hanbin chonked it with proper on mei of all things

[glass sleet]

Crazy raccoons got 5th-8th last major

So that’s not bad for them lol

Holy ads

This co streamer is farming ads

[slate thunder]

if cr win the major now im gonna be so sad

like genuinely

[fiery sapphire]

Dallas fuel being back 🥹

[slate thunder]

its so well set up for an eu sweep

i need this

peps r a fake team

peps literally shouldnt be there

but al qad and tm need to go finals or ill be so sad

unless they beat cr in finals

then its acceptable.

[fiery sapphire]

Guys was lastro cooking (this was a valiant support player vs the shock)

[sullen berry]

sex
big dick

[fiery sapphire]

1000 dollae fine for that btw

dollar*

[slate thunder]

lastro this isnt google

[fiery sapphire]

😭

[sullen berry]

I was there when it happened, rascal was also fined for that

[spark terrace]

Need three 5 map gigabangers

[fiery sapphire]

Rascal joining in and super being like "YOU CANT SAY THAT"

[sullen berry]

Valiant also looked like a really good budget roster at the time

[glass sleet]

The winner of this loses grand finals

[spark terrace]

Wym, they lose then then they play CR?

[glass sleet]

I mean whoever wins upper finals, gonna lose grand finals to the loser finals team

[slate thunder]

i need cr to be 3-0d

do it, my europeans...

[spark terrace]

Winners secure top 2

[glass sleet]

Same. We need the Koreans to look like they bleed

[slate thunder]

shitters

[glass sleet]

No one cares about second place.

[slate thunder]

Thats a lie

[glass sleet]

Where the Cr one from last major?

[slate thunder]

pay to win org

4th place

r u human

[fiery sapphire]

Varrel my goats

[glass sleet]

Alqad more sym otp than the team with youbi

[spark terrace]

Ziyad my yung god please

[slate thunder]

i mean no

[glass sleet]

Simple is the best support player to play for tm

[slate thunder]

are u seriously trying to say that checkmate is a sym otp

😭

[spark terrace]

could always trust Tobi to provide bad info

[glass sleet]

He’s basically yeah

[slate thunder]

you just dont know what youre saying

and thats okay

but don't claim to know

[glass sleet]

When was the last time you saw him play anything other and winning?

[slate thunder]

pls

[glass sleet]

The irony

But whatever

[sullen berry]

lily did you hear DisguisedToast and Dallas Fuel are joining as NA partner teams

[slate thunder]

bro what

disguised toast

LOL

thats so funny

[spark terrace]

10/10 slander machine

is this a 40 minute pause of doom?

Dallas fuel on a US team, thoughts?

[sullen berry]

bro is down bad after this

[spark terrace]

my coach hitting the Honk shoo

[sullen berry]

he's thinking about how to spend the team's guaranteed 3rd place prize money

@slate thunder Twisted FRAUDS

[spark terrace]

biblical C9

[sullen berry]

[grave python]

[spark terrace]

wasted a high noon and a C9,

[glass sleet]

Tuff pfp pic

[spark terrace]

Viol2t disciple

[sullen berry]

Honestly Unter's right

[keen dagger]

bro why so many c9's this tourney

[sullen berry]

really good comp diversity compared to last season's world finals

[spark terrace]

limit testing

[glass sleet]

My goat simple. I remember back when his name was in Korean

[keen dagger]

yeah fr i was kinda scared we'd get a boring meta bc they nerfed tracer and genji

but its been so varied its been great

[slate thunder]

what

tm won the map

[sullen berry]

sorry mistyped

Al Fraudsiah

[slate thunder]

😭

[sullen berry]

!jumbo

[slate thunder]

thats just rly rly tm favoured

[sullen berry]

it's been a long 5 days in a row

[glass sleet]

Wtf is this delay. Main stream is still showing highlights on first map and the CO STREAM is already showing hero bans

[slate thunder]

my fav of the 2 teams is tm

[keen dagger]

can anyone explain the juno pick from alqad on ilios??

[slate thunder]

ive loved fastro since i saw him competing for the first time

my fav player

youbi is a rly funny player

quartz is quartz

[sullen berry]

it's just the main stream chose reliability over having it in realtime

[slate thunder]

simple glazed me once

[glass sleet]

Is everyone else stuttering or having any issues for that “reliability”?

[keen dagger]

no

[sullen berry]

nah, go back to 720p60

[glass sleet]

I’ll just stay out of discord

It’s like two mins behind

[sullen berry]

go watch the japanese stream real quick, are they behind too?

china stream on bilibili is the same as the main stream

[keen dagger]

just watch the costreams ?

[glass sleet]

Nah they keep popping ads

Also I don’t like how co streamers have the audio so low

[sullen berry]

Twisted using all 5 ults :S

[pure bramble]

the rare five ult for nothing gambit

[keen dagger]

LMAO

omg they have 4 mins 30

[pure bramble]

very interesting play

[sullen berry]

how coooked are TM rn

[spark terrace]

brain controlled the Cass

[sullen berry]

Quartz is carrying a heavy backpack

[pure bramble]

snow bunny mind control

[spark terrace]

third point kings rows, 4 minutes of doom

oh nvm

[pure bramble]

FunnyAstro on wuyang is so greedy

[sullen berry]

pro players and their boops

perfection

[spark terrace]

Al Qad got all the trolling out their system first map

[keen dagger]

lmfao true

[weary scarab]

lowkey tm should ban sym lol

[keen dagger]

bro if they didnt c9 ilios wouldve been so much closer

[pure bramble]

what are the chances we get a six map banger

[weary scarab]

feels so weird to say

[carmine igloo]

they c9d for the plot

[spark terrace]

the TP high noon was clip farming

[carmine igloo]

at this rate slim...

[pure bramble]

if Al Qad trolls next map

i see the vision

[carmine igloo]

nah bc they need to draw this map

has to be a hybrid map

and the chances that they draw this map are slim lol

[spark terrace]

Youtube is so delayed wtf

its like a 30 second delay

[pure bramble]

what if Al Qad just drop the ball on first point defense

[keen dagger]

crazy rotation

[carmine igloo]

spoke it into existence ig lol

[spark terrace]

shut it

[pure bramble]

i feel like these teams suck when it comes to defending 😭

[sullen berry]

it's the dps brain in everyone that prefers attack over defense

so if they both have massive timebanks

[weary scarab]

kings row is just free until 3rd point

[sullen berry]

I am here for the great saudi cook off on KR

[pure bramble]

i really hope they don’t fumble their defense on second and third

[carmine igloo]

...

[spark terrace]

good high noon

[pure bramble]

oops

[spark terrace]

legendary poco bomb

[pure bramble]

weird that Seicoe is in today

guess we won’t see any Youbi this series

[sullen berry]

TVNTwaskilled

[spark terrace]

kellex my goat

Anti transphobia boop

[keen dagger]

OMFG

what dominance

[spark terrace]

Siyad my yung god

[pure bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/mizuki-helped-me-accept-my-identity-as-a-trans-person-mizuki-akiyama-pjsk-project-sekai-transgender-gif-7297447343075623085

kellex rn

[keen dagger]

that suzu from landon in the grav and mei ult was crazy

[spark terrace]

all the ults from Al Qad was class

[keen dagger]

for real

they made up for the c9

[half pendant]

give landon and kellex the medal of valor

actual wartime medics

[spark terrace]

team went from fatfingering a high noon on ilios to a +3:50 in the time bank

[reef seal]

Damn this is such a good series lol

[pure bramble]

When TM and Al Qad play it’s like they completely forget who they are

[reef seal]

They’re both so good

I have a good feeling eu wins 😭🙏

[glass sleet]

They brought in seicoe to play Mei nice

[pure bramble]

cmon lbbd we know u got that dog

[spark terrace]

the Al Qad winston plush omg

[glass sleet]

Why isn’t he playing the echo

[reef seal]

Korean domination over… mashallah

Does the winner of this get an extra map win in GF or what

[half pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-true-seal-gif-14975830212676117446

[reef seal]

Or do they just skip a series

[pure bramble]

first map pick in GF i think

[weary scarab]

winner goes to grand finals

[glass sleet]

What?

You mean they start 1-0?

[reef seal]

I meant if they got anything extra

[weary scarab]

loser plays cr in lower bracket

first map pick

and first ban

[reef seal]

Yeah or they get two series to play out

[glass sleet]

No, you get nothing

[half pendant]

they get more rest lol that’s it

[reef seal]

Fairs then

[pure bramble]

doesn’t the team from winners bracket get first map pick?

[reef seal]

I assume grand finals is tomorrow lol

[glass sleet]

That’s why winner of upper finals usually loses

[half pendant]

yes

[carmine igloo]

no its today

[glass sleet]

No

It’s today

[reef seal]

They’re doing it all today?

[glass sleet]

Bro said he’s with confidence

[sullen berry]

tomorrow is today

[spark terrace]

why're they playing some Fredagain ahh intermission music

[reef seal]

Xd man

[sullen berry]

we started OWCS World Finals 2 days early

[glass sleet]

It’s just 3 series

[pure bramble]

Tomorrow comes today

[weary scarab]

grand finals is in 3 hours lol

[carmine igloo]

hey dont u slander fred again

[reef seal]

So yeah no wonder why upper finals loses then you have such an adv not having to play a full extra series

[glass sleet]

Doesn’t matter. They get a big break between series

[half pendant]

what’s wrong with fred again

[reef seal]

Idk if that’s enough

[glass sleet]

And the loser of upper finals usually wins grand finals

[reef seal]

When I scrimmed I felt dead after2 hours

[carmine igloo]

i mean equally its a long ass day playing so much ow

[reef seal]

I’m sure they feel the same

[reef seal]

Yea

[carmine igloo]

esp at such a high level

[reef seal]

It’s rlly rlly tiring ngl

[glass sleet]

You’re not built different

[reef seal]

Cuz you need to focus the WHOLE time

[half pendant]

dorado

unironically the worst map in the game btw

[glass sleet]

No

Pariasio is worse

That map is shit

[reef seal]

It’s interesting how Al qad are forcing sym and tm is playing seicoe

Very interesting

[carmine igloo]

hmmm true yh

[pure bramble]

why does Quartz get all shy and timid when lbbd is in the lobby

[glass sleet]

Alqad are basically a sym otp all year

[carmine igloo]

al qad is the better sym comp

[reef seal]

He has sym

[carmine igloo]

fr get on that soj

[reef seal]

I see

[weary scarab]

they did the same in emea finals

[reef seal]

Interesting

[pure bramble]

even when he has sym

[reef seal]

Can we nerf sym already

Game is saved if so

[half pendant]

LOLL he just pissed on quartz

[pure bramble]

lbbd sparks fear in Quartz

[glass sleet]

If tm wins than no.

[reef seal]

Lowkey lbb and quartz has absorbed lips power

Yall heard it here first

I’m #conspiracytheory rn…

[glass sleet]

Anyway

Can we drop merit already

[pure bramble]

no way they lose Kellex 97 to beat and still win the fight

[half pendant]

^

[pure bramble]

like whaaaaat

[spark terrace]

the Al Quad ult management makes me honry bro

[reef seal]

Ye nerf sym

Wall is so broken

Holy fuck

[carmine igloo]

al qad the goats of defense

[reef seal]

Stupidest shit ever

[pure bramble]

no

[reef seal]

Worst hitscan ever you’re onto something

[carmine igloo]

you forget that sym is really only broken in high tier ow bc it requires so much coordination

u'll never see this stuff in ladder

[half pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-speed-fortnite-speed-fortnite-fairs-speed-fairs-that-one-speed-stream-gif-351563929135632665

[pure bramble]

lbbd on souj makes me feel things

[spark terrace]

kellex early on beat?

[reef seal]

She’s still broken

[pure bramble]

how do TM lose that 😭

[reef seal]

Her health perk is broken

[spark terrace]

one good pick and AQ has it

[reef seal]

And being able to perma tp is also broken

It’s hard yes

But it’s broken

[carmine igloo]

by that logic a lot of characters are broken

[reef seal]

And so is wall too

[reef seal]

She’s the only hero that can rotate like that?

[carmine igloo]

reaper has invulnerability and a tp

[half pendant]

wait quartz heard me talk shit

reaper needs to be euthanized

[reef seal]

Reaper can’t tp a whole team

?

[half pendant]

now

[reef seal]

That’s not a good argument

[spark terrace]

demonic TVNT ball

[reef seal]

Sym tp perk should be nerfed and there shouldn’t be infinite tps

[half pendant]

show me an example of a whole team of solo queued players, regardless of rank, coordinating a symm comp

[carmine igloo]

valid, but my main point is she can't be broken if only the top 2 teams in the world can acc make her work and look meta

[pure bramble]

they use ults for that????

[carmine igloo]

literally

[reef seal]

You can still nerf based on pro play

League does it

[pure bramble]

greedy asf

[carmine igloo]

no that makes no sense lol

why nerf a character for the top 10 players in the world

league is a completely different game

[reef seal]

Sym has a super high wr in ladder too btw

[pure bramble]

guys who gaf about league 😭

[half pendant]

S-tier pro players make up less than 1% of OW players worldwide, if blizzard were forced to make nerfs and buffs based on pro play the game would be literally unplayable for players in lower ranks btw

[carmine igloo]

TRUEEEE

[pure bramble]

this is game is so good

[carmine igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/tracer-overwatch-true-pulse-bomb-gif-3958766478626372739

[half pendant]

3 minute ad break #OK

[carmine igloo]

wait i cant send gifs 😞

[reef seal]

Sym is literally t3 highest wr in ladder EVERY region

IN gm

But ye she’s fine

[carmine igloo]

idk chief just ban her if ur so annoyed

thats what bans are for

[reef seal]

That’s not my point

[carmine igloo]

they wont ban sym bc she requires a LOT of skill and coordination to make work

[spark terrace]

TVNT does not have a Ball bro

[reef seal]

Buffs and nerfs are irrelevant to low elo players as they don’t know what’s going on at all

[spark terrace]

pack it up

[keen dagger]

this match couldve beena full hold first

[carmine igloo]

it's good to reward players for skill/coordination

[keen dagger]

insane defence from alqad

[half pendant]

don’t get me wrong a nerf is fine but blizzard still can’t make changes to the video game because players in high ladder are tiltmaxxing

[reef seal]

And you can still tune it?

What kinda point is that

[pure bramble]

we still debating if TVNT has hands

[reef seal]

Tracer has been nerfed many times and she’s the hardest hero by far

Like xd moment ngl

[glass sleet]

Echo copy is basically a “extra life plus free ult”

[pure bramble]

i fw it

[reef seal]

Ye she has a good ult but she’s not op as she used to be back in ow1

Cuz she got tuned

[carmine igloo]

hmmm not quite, a lot of players in metal ranks are casuals and make up the majority of the player base. patches imo shdnt just cater to the top 1% of players but whatever who knows im not a dev!

[reef seal]

Even though she’s a hard hero

[carmine igloo]

im just a measly masters player 😞

[reef seal]

The can cater top to bottom but you can still nerf heroes with insane winrates

Which sym has

[spark terrace]

I mean, he's ball shaped, must be something

[pure bramble]

how many “fdps” players are just Genji and Tracer two tricks

[spark terrace]

oh shit TM mental boomed

[reef seal]

If a hero has insane wr in the highest rank in the game across every region there’s a problem

I think that’s really really simple

To understand

[pure bramble]

lbbd making me proud

[reef seal]

Goat

[spark terrace]

Ziyad the Yung god

quartz wtf are you doing

illegal gameplay

[sullen berry]

Quartz the great defender of Dorado

[pure bramble]

get that man

[reef seal]

Quartz is so good lol

Holy

[half pendant]

this man is the chosen one

oh my god

[balmy wolf]

this mf lmao

[reef seal]

Lowkey think tm are winning it all they’re so good

[spark terrace]

the day Ziyad learns Winston its over

[sullen berry]

I wait for the day Ziyad can earn my respect and main Hazard in 2026

[spark terrace]

omg

[pure bramble]

old man Kellex showing the youngins how it’s done

[spark terrace]

is chill one more fight

trust

just kill simple

[keen dagger]

omfg

[spark terrace]

I called it

[keen dagger]

bro quartz

played out of his mind

[sullen berry]

EZ

[keen dagger]

that map

[pure bramble]

Quartz is the only clutch player on that team i swear

[keen dagger]

20k damagee 40-9 is INSANE

[thick moon]

u guy think i still get the wuyang owc skin when i'm 1,5hrs too late to the stream

[pure bramble]

can this man get some help

[reef seal]

Nvm I cursed em

LOL

[weary scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162707809075482696/1444648176773496993/image.png?ex=692d78f5&is=692c2775&hm=9e5d817aa018f0f478cbb5d6876bf7c41862f4c83ec3ff325941442279f8c8e1& holy tank gap

[pure bramble]

i think so

[spark terrace]

lowk is TM a little mental boomed?

[sullen berry]

just keep watching when the rerun is up about 2 hrs when the stream ends

[reef seal]

Eu on monkey good one

[reef seal]

Think so

[pure bramble]

i got my day 2 drops watching Lyar play ranked

[thick moon]

okay good thank you

[weary scarab]

ziyad 45:8 holy

[keen dagger]

tbf tvnt got like 0 value on the hazard

[reef seal]

Holy goat

[pure bramble]

Al Qad has the clutch gene

[reef seal]

Lbb that game though

Lmfao

[sullen berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cyclops-ryu-dap-me-up-dap-dap-up-gif-2485274535169214603

[reef seal]

15 deaths

Crying man

[keen dagger]

honestly their defense was SO good on dorado

[spark terrace]

TM on some mathmatical ass scoreboard

[keen dagger]

it was absurd

[glass sleet]

It’s really just alqad v Quartz

[spark terrace]

25, 40,40, 30,30

[spark terrace]

always has been

Quartz + 4 plumbers

[reef seal]

Not shocking

[spark terrace]

half of TM's annual budgets on Quartz

[half pendant]

“quartz and 4 lifeless corpses V the best symm team on planet earth”

[glass sleet]

Should be all of it

[pure bramble]

get Quartz off this team plz

[spark terrace]

that moustache costs more to maintain than TVNT's whole contract

[glass sleet]

Lol

[pure bramble]

give Quartz to a team with a tank that has hands

[glass sleet]

Put Quartz on falcons

Remove merit

[spark terrace]

sign Quartz to Team Peps please

[pure bramble]

only if Stalk3r doesn’t come back

[glass sleet]

Sign Quartz to disguised

[spark terrace]

put that mf on there and see what happens

[glass sleet]

I doubt it. He doesn’t wanna play hitscan

[keen dagger]

why was TVNT on hazard for so long

[pure bramble]

if they drop Merit it should be for Stalk3r

put proper’s lazy ass on hitscan

[glass sleet]

STALKER DONT WANNA BE CLICKING HEADS

[glass sleet]

He don’t wanna either

[spark terrace]

I mean he does know english so.....

[half pendant]

durpee does more on rein 7 smirnoffs deep

[pure bramble]

idgaf what Proper wants

[glass sleet]

Lol

[pure bramble]

Stalk3r deserves better

[glass sleet]

Tell proper “you wanna win? Get rid of merit”

Someone you need to stop brining your friend with you

[spark terrace]

are the Dallas Fuel gonna sign old players? or new people

[glass sleet]

He’s ruining majors for y’all

[pure bramble]

Someone is goated for that

[spark terrace]

put Sugarfree on the Fuel please

[glass sleet]

It’s self sabotage

[pure bramble]

they rich asf lowkey

I don’t think Someone really cares

[glass sleet]

That’s team sabotaging

Technically

Call my lawyer

Pick up Gary!

[pure bramble]

nah I heard Proper was the one who pushed Stalk3r out

[glass sleet]

You know what

Drop someone too

We don’t need that fraud

He’s not even better on monkey

[carmine igloo]

all u need is the hanbinston

[pure bramble]

yes plz get them on a good org 🙏

[glass sleet]

[glass sleet]

What’s a good org

[pure bramble]

Proper is a prick fuck that guy

fire him

[half pendant]

2018 Shanghai Dragons

[glass sleet]

How old is Quartz

[pure bramble]

I really don’t like Proper

[glass sleet]

I miss my fav dps player

This break is not going to help stalker

[spark terrace]

seeing the TM coach just taking a nap on ilios was the worse omen

[pure bramble]

he’ll pick up where he left off

[glass sleet]

They don’t have a coach

[spark terrace]

bro's not getting let go next year off that alone

[pure bramble]

bring back WAY 🙏

[glass sleet]

Wae

[pure bramble]

or revamp Zeta

[glass sleet]

[spark terrace]

Coach BenBest

[glass sleet]

Idk how zeta still in ow. They didn’t terribly this year.

[glass sleet]

Bro left a year ago

[spark terrace]

what?

[pure bramble]

Someone Bernar Merit Alphayi Pelican Maka Leesoomin

[spark terrace]

wtf is this org doing

[glass sleet]

Benbest was on tm for two weeks

He didn’t do shit

[pure bramble]

this team would be fun

[glass sleet]

Smh nepotism

Someone doesn’t belong there

I mean someone not someone

[pure bramble]

bro you can’t convince me that Probe and Mag are better than Someone and Merit

it’s probably gonna be Ade tbh

maybe Mealgaru

[glass sleet]

Put merit in way and let’s see if he plays as well. Only reason he’s seen higher is because he’s on a stacked team being carried

[humble token]

Oh damn al qad 2-1

[glass sleet]

BRO

ade probe better than merit

Even on a stacked team he still doesn’t do shit

[pure bramble]

Ade probably. Probe????

[glass sleet]

Give probe a shot on real hs

[pure bramble]

does Probe do anything for Zeta

[glass sleet]

He barely played for them

And he was playing venture

Give him a break

[pure bramble]

I swear Alphayi was doing everything whenever Probe was in 😭

[glass sleet]

Sounds like proper and merit

[spark terrace]

Ziyad the yung god

[pure bramble]

Probe is unproven

and I think he’s pretty mid compared to Ade

[glass sleet]

Bro

I’d take ade over merit too

[half pendant]

quartz was anointed by god

[spark terrace]

lets go baby TM mental boomed

[pure bramble]

yea but you can’t convince me Probe is a better alternative to Merit

Probe is just like

he kinda exists

[glass sleet]

He has potential. Put him on a stacked team that can coach him and help him improve. Over merit who’s insanely mid with all the help of being on a stacked team

[glass sleet]

Merit

[pure bramble]

Probe new potential man?

bro get Probe on a team with Mag and Knife

[glass sleet]

Give him a real shot and let’s see. He’s not proven but you know who’s proven to be ass? Merit. There’s no potential with that guy no more.

[spark terrace]

the Quartz show

[glass sleet]

Merit hit his peak and has been declining

[pure bramble]

he had his shot to fill Flora’s shoes and he couldn’t even do that

idk maybe he’ll be proven

[keen dagger]

LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOO

[pure bramble]

anyway Al Qad full cap

[glass sleet]

Nah that Zeta team is actually complete dogshit. Wae are way better. You can’t put him with a bunch of shitters and say “ok that’s his chance to perform”

Be fr.

Be fair

[reef seal]

Is it rude to say that there’s a huge gap between the flex dps and tanks in this series

[spark terrace]

cant say im sad, just impressed Quartz could benchpress them this far

[keen dagger]

ziyad played OUT OF HIS MIND

[pure bramble]

Bernar Alphayi Pelican and FiNN even showed up when he needed to. Mag and Bliss were the weakest links sure but it’s not like Zeta were totally crippled

[glass sleet]

Checkmate is an owl champion for a reason

[keen dagger]

expected from him tbh

[reef seal]

Truth

[spark terrace]

quartz has the worse stat line yet

[half pendant]

ziyads the truth

[glass sleet]

Bernar didn’t even play. 90% of the games were mag and Finn and bliss are so ass!

[pure bramble]

that was sad asf 💔

[half pendant]

EUTHANIZE tvnt

[reef seal]

Seeing tm
Play tracer is hilarious

Ngl

It’s so funny

[glass sleet]

Even bernar looked bad on king’s row

[reef seal]

Not a single player can play tracer

[keen dagger]

100%

[pure bramble]

yk what I hope Zeta keep probe and fill in their gaps 😭

[glass sleet]

They 4-2 alqad playing tracer

[reef seal]

wtf

[glass sleet]

Yeah

[reef seal]

Games dead

[spark terrace]

first interview without a translator ive seen in a while

[viscid hatch]

I think if cr make finals they win

[glass sleet]

Bilingual

[viscid hatch]

I don’t think they go to finals and lose

[pure bramble]

bro wtf was this

what did I miss yesterday

[balmy wolf]

heh, i understand danny's korean just fine 💅

[spark terrace]

im just Glad Team Falcons fell off so ungracefully

[glass sleet]

Falcons hard trolled. It was so embarrassing

[pure bramble]

what is Hanbin on