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glass sleet
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I get that’s what’s supposed to make it sound more important but it doesn’t to me

wise orbit
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thats fine

glass sleet
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I just think the importance of the major is solely about the prize money

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Cuz nothing else matters really

wise orbit
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and the prize pool somewhat reflects that, at least compared to the first major

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ewc is kinda its own thing but its been incorprated into owcs so idk

glass sleet
wise orbit
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but yea u get the idea at least i hope

glass sleet
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Who’s better?

wise orbit
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its the same in a lot of sports and esports

glass sleet
glass sleet
wise orbit
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i didnt watch owl but i think it was the same back then as well

wise orbit
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mj won more rings than lebron but lebron is still arguably better

glass sleet
wise orbit
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idk

glass sleet
wise orbit
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but u had finals at the end of the year

glass sleet
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I only watch soccer and they don’t have playoffs

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The winner of the league is whoever has the most points

wise orbit
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thats cool

glass sleet
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But I do believe MLS does have playoffs

wise orbit
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but yea in general trophies are mostly a matter of prestige

glass sleet
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Which is weird cuz then what’s the point of points…to see who’s top 7?

wise orbit
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they can correlate to skill but not directly

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at least not in team sports

glass sleet
static turret
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UV said on his stream
Td tho that they’re playing on a patch before latest tho

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And the lans are usually on opr which is on a patch before laters but it could change who knows

wise orbit
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@static turret i just asked on infekted’s stream he and uv said they’re playing on this patch

static turret
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Ah

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Prob misheard

vestal spoke
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We love Once Again Weibo Gaming

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We love guxue

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We love shy

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full flume
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u got me too?

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💀

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idk if i said it right

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i have many german friends

full flume
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ja, das hast du

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vestal spoke
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i will only ever be truly happy when they bring back the owl skins...

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Hs buffs

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Tracer nerf

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Ball nerf

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Ye falcons are winning

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Ram buff 2

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sullen berry
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mortal cipher
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Maybe they can start making the new skins

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Because tbh the bundle skins aren’t great

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Most are too much white

sullen berry
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especially T1 and Falcons

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who use more black and royal blue

teal hare
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would it be wrong to think propers probably the best dps

static turret
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no

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like of all time or right now

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cuz id say no to right now

teal hare
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Right now just cause of how much he’s been doing for falcons in games
Even if they still couldn’t win it it seemed like proper could have won almost solo some of those games against cr especially

static turret
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He is right now

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Best fdps itw and is most flexible bc stalk3r is mia this szn

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Extremely good igl for falcons

teal hare
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Yea right now I think nobody’s better individually on dps

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Fdps at least

mortal cipher
teal hare
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Yea the t1 skins look nice at least
Falcons have one of the two worse ones beside gengs brownish yellow

cosmic socket
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i want cr ball and qad dva

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not fuckass venture

weary scarab
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the koreans are bootcamping in eu rn

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hybrid hollow
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They did it last year too

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oh yeah

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its doing in stock

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holm

hybrid hollow
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yep

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i got confused with league

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thought they doing it in china again

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but they alr did it in midseason

mortal cipher
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I mean Worlds is already over
So would be odd

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mortal cipher
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Then probably upper bracket

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Final

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even if they in same bracket im sure

mortal cipher
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Yeah

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cr or falc would dominate

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loser bracket

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amd be back

grave python
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EMEA on top

mortal cipher
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Eh

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a final

grave python
mortal cipher
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I mean the last 2-3 years has been NA > EU

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Just saying

grave python
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EMEA did better in EWC idc

mortal cipher
grave python
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EMEA on top

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I love EMEA

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grave python
mortal cipher
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Maybe

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Maybe eventually we get 2018 era for Overwatch

grave python
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There wouldn't be hope anymore

mortal cipher
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Ye

grave python
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Like for real

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ofc

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only way emea or na wins is worldcup

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when only one team can enter

mortal cipher
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Ye

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either a dive tank or brawl or poke

mortal cipher
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Ye

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i want ssg or liquid in finals

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mortal cipher
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that little kid
is too funny tho

mental vine
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LOL

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pure bramble
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who invited DJ Khaled

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man i wish i was there for OWL

teal hare
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Don’t the biggest lol pro players own yachts level of rich from the game

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Also dj Khalid was so disappointing

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i been to one

mental bay
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tired epoch
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Is it an enviable fortune

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how is this related fo esports d u n a

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weobg chat

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wrong

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@cyan hazel @mortal cipher @sullen berry

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@torn portal

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@stoic juniper this is hilarious

sullen berry
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Toil2t's greatest contribution to OW esports as Lucio and Illari

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teal hare
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Hey you should also only play on low ground on kings row to make it harder to see you and make it easier to retake on the second point

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watching a coach YouTuber crash the fuck out on falcons vs cr kings row so hard was the most entertaining shit

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teal hare
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the best and worst grand finals ever

cyan hazel
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I agree

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She was going insane

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Literally hit the pen cuz of how stupid they were being

sullen berry
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see even the top teams can crash out live in front of thousands spectating live and during the stream
Who'd ever thought that falcons and CR can be worn out at the top of their game

teal hare
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The absolute dead silence during Esperanza

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weary scarab
vestal spoke
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I got money

glass sleet
teal hare
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Ok so I think realistically if teams wanna beat falcons

Just deny proper value and there ya go
Cause proper will just randomly 1v3 if propers alive your never truely at advantage

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vestal spoke
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wbg faces falcons for the 8th time and takes down nazi germany

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they will go for the japanese empire next (cr)

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idek if theyll even meet them in stockholm

sullen berry
# glass sleet Omg leave Viol2t alone

"Viol2t doesnt deserve this slander!"

On the other hand, are we really defending the same person who played dps cassidy during their falloff era when they had nero and glister?

cyan hazel
static turret
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cyan hazel
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Wait guys maybe viol2t is just trying to smurf contenders....

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tired epoch
cyan hazel
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Y'all, who out here hoping that chiyo crashes out on map 2 of the next falcons game

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can we get bren sideshow casting owwc 😢

split flume
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they will never come back

cyan hazel
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Can we get an official coach ocie costream?

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split flume
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they been gone for like almost 4 years bruh 😭

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unter is next best thing

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saw a valorant pro clip

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split flume
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i watch sideshow's yt stuff sometimes

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its pretty funny because it also usually has bren and other valorant casters

viscid hatch
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Avrl legday, uber and MrX are good but everyone else just sounds so lame

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grave python
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When was stockholm

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it didn’t happen yet

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mortal cipher
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Week*

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shall i

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atlanta, sfshock, london, boston

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dk who those are

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could be some sick stuff or a bunch of fodder

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mortal cipher
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full set is jjonak twilight gamsu gesture ester striker

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apparently someones getting the jjonak

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i should get striker

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fuck its in langley though

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thats halfway across the province

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ill see about shipping

quasi dock
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!lfg 21 + chill unsoberwatch need 3

robust patio
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is insane

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greatest of all times of all time

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real

mortal cipher
pure bramble
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old man twilight is coaching now

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omg dudeeee wtf was viol2t's problem like why did he do that

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hes the first person to reach support champ in asia btw

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just shows how trash ladder is compared to owl

wise orbit
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word on the street is that the koreans are playing mauga juno brig in the gstar tourney

cosmic socket
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idk if ill be able to get one

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idk

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cyan hazel
weary scarab
grave python
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Junbin should be higher

weary scarab
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nah hanbin is the goat

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hanbin is just amazing at every hero except the ball winton shit

static turret
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Like

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Why is Donghak at 6?

weary scarab
static turret
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Oh

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Yea overall if you combine

grave python
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Didn't Vestola do like better than Hadi

static turret
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Still

weary scarab
grave python
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Hadi hasn't even played in Stage 2 and 3

static turret
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Odd list

grave python
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I guess Hadi will come back next year but will be his last year as player

weary scarab
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its kinda hard to get a good team as an eu tank

grave python
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Backbone had a long break after Stockholm and returned so

static turret
weary scarab
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so many good alternatives exist

static turret
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Hadi did tryouts for geng

weary scarab
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ziyad, vestola, eis, ksaa, tvnt, potential koreans

grave python
static turret
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Vestola prob ends up on vision or geng if I had to guess

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He’s better as a solo tank

static turret
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He

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Did

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I think it was uncoachable

grave python
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Ah alright

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What

static turret
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Uncoachable

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Is commamderx pod cast

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With Unter a christfer ow

grave python
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Bruh

teal hare
cyan hazel
cosmic socket
glass sleet
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glass sleet
teal hare
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no hes not very good on rein couldnt handle the mirror

pure bramble
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who’s gonna get Jaewoo I wonder

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my dream EMEA pickup is VP dropping Shockwave and picking up Flora

grave python
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10 days left

tepid ibex
teal hare
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Without it I think they’d be infinitely scarier as a team of there hitscans wifi could always be stable

wise orbit
tepid ibex
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I just want Bernar free

sullen berry
weary scarab
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cr in eu too now

reef seal
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Hope eu or na wins

sullen berry
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Illinois tearing it up like a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

The coughing baby being Hydron in a first to 4 going 0-3

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mortal cipher
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holy Gap

teal hare
sullen berry
teal hare
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hmm

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sullen berry
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Fun fact, its the same uni during OW Collegiate that brought you these NA Goats

olive vapor
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Does anyone know the music that comes on during the OWCS Korea & Asia broadcast?

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vestal spoke
sullen berry
tired epoch
olive vapor
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its not on spotify tho

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glass sleet
sullen berry
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Guess they also returned for the Varsity esports program, a division of collegiate

glass sleet
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I was shocked cuz after I read the tweet I thought “the college that was winning everything two years straight is shutting down?”

meager silo
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I heard they were shutting down too

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I think they're just going until the roster graduates? Not entirely sure

cosmic socket
cyan hazel
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What do y'all think about skewed?

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I haven't seen this man seriously mess up once

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I gotta put him above chorong (and pretty obviously chiyo considering how often he sells)

robust patio
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not s tier

pure bramble
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i like Skewed but he stuck on main support and nobody gives that role any love 😔

cyan hazel
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But if we're being real, is there a single S tier main support in Korea? They all lack consistency

static turret
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Chorong

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there’s really not a single player who’s consistent even proper during regular szn was a little wack but chorong is almost always on 100

clear bough
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Mew?

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Fixa?

static turret
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Triple bait

clear bough
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chorong is good but he's lowk overrated

static turret
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Fastro actually tuff tho

clear bough
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someone like chiyo performs way better

static turret
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He been goin crazy

clear bough
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Even the North America guys are better

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Like Vega and admiral

static turret
mortal cipher
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but s tier is shu chorong chiyo

cyan hazel
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and chiyo is so inconsistent that he's usually the weak link of tf IMO

cyan hazel
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NA players perform better comparative to their region, sure

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but there's a reason why koreans never import

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I can't argue with chorong being very very good and possibly better than skewed but skewed is also so young

static turret
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Skewed is 25

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??

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Bro has been in the league I swear since like 2019

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2020 i think actually

clear bough
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Bro was benching moth before chorong was old enough to play in owl

viscid hatch
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From watching him on ssg last year he was great in the first Lan

teal hare
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As a main support player Astro’s weakness is he’s a one trick realistically

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It’s like youbi

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They’re definitely there
And amazinf at there hero

But bans exist now

weary scarab
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he got the wujang and juno in the bag too

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tho

teal hare
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not compared to other main supports imo

thats just me tho

cyan hazel
wise orbit
viscid hatch
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Not that hot of a take

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viscid hatch
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As a chorong fan he feeds his brains out sometimes

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doesnt mean hes bad

viscid hatch
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Yeah I never said that

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Btw

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feedjaegon was insane

wise orbit
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do people really think skewed is that good

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he doesnt stand out to me at all rly

viscid hatch
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I think he’s pretty good

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I haven’t seen his lucio much though

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wise orbit
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but u think saying skewed is currently a better main support than chorong is not a hot take

viscid hatch
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I do think chorong better but I don’t think it’s the ‘worse take of 25’

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It’s just not a crazy hot take to think he’s better

wise orbit
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we're comparing the best main support in the world to a mid tier korean

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this would be like me saying i think mag is better than junbin

viscid hatch
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I don’t think that’s the same as Junbin obviously stands out as amazing on all heroes whereas mag is bad at almost everything, skewed vs chorong is a much smaller gap imo

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Bad faith argument

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Especially since it’s harder to see main support impact compared to tank

wise orbit
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mag decent tank skewed decent main support junbin god tier tank chorong god tier main support

viscid hatch
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IMO mag isn’t decent

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He’s below average these days

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Skewed is like A tier, chorong S tier
Mag D tier Junbin S tier

wise orbit
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whatever lets say mealgaru then

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or whoever

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u get my point

viscid hatch
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Kinda I just think it’s also a lot harder to judge main supports

wise orbit
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doesn't mean they're all the same

viscid hatch
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Yeah I know that?

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Sure chorong has higher peaks but he’s a bit of a feeder; whereas skewed is a more passive Lucio and brig but I haven’t looked too much into it

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That’s what it looks like at surface level that’s why I said it’s not a crazy take to say skewed is better

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But I still think chorong is

cosmic socket
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skewed is solid but he doesnt stand out to me

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just a standard a tier korean ms

wise orbit
viscid hatch
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Meh agree to disagree about the obvious part

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I’ve always rated skewed highly so maybe I’m biased

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2021 glads fan core

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not s tier enough

viscid hatch
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Yeh

cyan hazel
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I think what skewed lacks in pop offs, he makes up for with extremely good beats, good play on every main support, and not feeding

viscid hatch
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He pops on flex support

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He’s what violet wishes he was

cyan hazel
sullen berry
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Junbin Proud Proper kellex xerion

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my team is basically high dps shit backline

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Ziyad Kaneki Kronik Funnyastro UV

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they will play Lucio Kiri and they will like it

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or Lucio Wuyang

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this like a 4th place team in EMEA

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im sure junbin proud proper kellex would easily win

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i'm tryna do something creative 😭

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i havent even heard of kaneki

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i watched a bit of China

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what tier do u think he is

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i think he might be around current Leave

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sometimes he's better but it's not always consistent

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so a high b tier

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yea probably around there

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yea proper winnin

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hmm if i wanted to make a really strong team

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or similar

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i have an idea on how

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Infekted Proper Zest Cjay Kellex

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basically use Proper as a hitscan

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  • high tier fdps
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Infekted is gapped by Junbin but Proper is used to carrying less than ideal tanks

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and also double flex opportunities

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but idk if that works in the rules

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hmm

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double flex dps

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infekted will get hard gapped

pure bramble
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no doubt

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proper vs proper cancels out

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zest vs proud

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zest wins slightly

pure bramble
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couldn’t you count it as Proper vs Proud if he’s on hs

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u could yea

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idk if Zest could beat Proper on fdps tho

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but then

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my proper would absolutely dominate

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zest

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proud vs proper on hs

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yea

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this team couldn't play ana brig that well tho

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i mean cjay isn't really known for his ana

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Junbin Proud Proper Kellex xerion(idk who he is)

vs

infekted Proper Zest kellex cjay

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i think having junbin in tank is just too broken

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my hope is that infekted just gets carried

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its just makes every team fight

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unfair

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yeah now that i think about it

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proper can carry cus he has chiyo healing his ass in weird angles

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idk if cjay can do that

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🤣

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i don't know if the backline could handle the Junbin Proper duo 😭

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in 5v5 i think tank is prob the most important

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ball winton dive their backline with proper tracer

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and its over already

pure bramble
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do you think yours would win in a brawl mirror

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yes

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only time hell lose

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is

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poke

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he cant play ram

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or sig

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or orisa

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i tried to round it out so that it could maybe win on other conditions

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ziyad could prob win in poke

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but

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img ziyad is a dva player

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idk

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what hero he plays

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he also plays Hazard

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if its dva then junbin wins on dive

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junbin will prob play doom then

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i think in dive Ziyad actually maybe has more of an advantage than Infekted

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ofc

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like if they go Ilios and Ziyad gets first ban, then he could probably take out the ball.

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but Infekted probably taking that mirror

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and that's dangerous

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ziyad aint gonna beat junbin

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if he plays dva or hazard

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it'd be their best bet

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unless you're donghak

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i don't think you beating Junbin on Ilios 😭

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fr

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imagine a 5 dollar team

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gaga nico soon kellex xerion

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i hope SoOn plays a map

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cause he'll be the oldest player to play a map

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loo

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fr

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what team would have the worst synergy possible

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ksg quartz kaneki chiyo cjay

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what language would they speak

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my first thought was make Proud and Kronik play together

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lol

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if only MCD was an option

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Viol2t comeback in 2026 🙏

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next year he's gonna be playing on unc ocean watch

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reminisce with everybody else about the good ol days

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😭

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nah unc still got it

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cyan hazel
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i love the backline

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Thank you

cosmic socket
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ezpz

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I was pretty proud of it

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who can int harder contest

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It's harder to do on FS but viol3t

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This has been a running joke i started on AVRL'S stream when he was on ZETA DIVISION

vestal spoke
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7 mews and i put my last coin o nthe number 12 to hapopefully get a shy

teal hare
# sullen berry

Froggers diffed Astro before in a Lucio 1v1 before to right

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He’s packed up two pro lucios while both teams actually where fighting

cyan hazel
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yeah frogger is genuinely one of the best dps lucios

teal hare
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Yea
Like overall not close

But dps Lucio gets nicknamed frogger Lucio for a reason

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lol

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cyan hazel
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not bad not badd

cyan hazel
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cyan hazel
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Kaneki is 3 whole points cheaper and only a tier below proper, imo

vestal spoke
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none of the lines

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millenium line expo line canada line

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your shitty guxue slander will not be tolerated

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prime guxue diffs prime fearless

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Metrotown canada place Guilford

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ubc sfu douglas college bcit

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none of these places

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but yeah proud/kaneki 100%

cyan hazel
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Junbin is so good (and plays ball) that I don't need Korean supports

sullen berry
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im sure theyll get gapped

cyan hazel
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teal hare
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Unless that was eskay (the other insane Lucio streamer who barely plays anymore)

cyan hazel
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teal hare
cyan hazel
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Eskay more like cancelled

teal hare
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Her stuff still rocks content wise I just miss eskay Lucio

grave python
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I was watching Saudi eLeague and someone said that TM is better with Seicoe and TVNT than Youbi and KSAA

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What do you think

teal hare
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I think any teams better without youbi but ksa is debatable

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Youbi is like textbook lack of flexibility

weary scarab
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youbi is a great 3rd dps to have

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just gives them multiple playstyles

teal hare
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True but like
I’d rather someone with a wider hero pool generally

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rn he’s benched so it’s not affecting tm much

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Depends on team

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If its vs vp or cr

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Go youbi

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True but wouldn’t you rather a player who’s around as good that isn’t limited to needing to play against a team that’s not good into the sym and also who’s definitely banning sym the moment youbis played

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Have also seen seicoe sym

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🦀 BELOSREA IS FREE 🦀

mortal cipher
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Ooh

static turret
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100k or dinner with weibo?

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sad

cyan hazel
cosmic socket
pure bramble
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you're not washed enough for rivals

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rivals actually doing worse esports wise then ow rn

sullen berry
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team roc was making him go insane

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t1

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sen

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can we free toil2t from his midlevel saudi team now

vestal spoke
sullen berry
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bunch of plumbers

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wbg will always qualify for lan as long as owcs china is a thing

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vestola is lft ow/rivals

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is it over for him

teal hare
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she was making beef

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with ow ccs

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i think it was warn

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nothing came out of it

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she was just kinda obnoxious by not dealing with it privately

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warn was friends with some saudi player and that said saudi player was homophobic transphobic sm and warn didnt cut them off because he didnt know they had these traits and eskay made a whole big thing about it

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She’s not rly canceled she just doesn’t rly play ow any more so she’s not talked about that much

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honestly I only first heard of her from sajam slam

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Not neuuish worse but like
Somewhere in the middle of this situation and that

cyan hazel
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I’ve honestly seen worse generally from creators I guess so it’s probably just a thing that came and went

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this isnt the first time

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also shes made.... very strange pedo jokes before

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You don't need to justify yourself bro

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Yea your fine there

cyan hazel
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Ah
Sorry then

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technically rivals esports is bigger though

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well thats good to know. i wont have to wait 10 mins for comp games 😭

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Y’all remember phi naga sparkr and raajaro right? They’re on MR VP

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I believe they won or at least got second in emea

sullen berry
# vestal spoke bunch of plumbers

Inexperienced, can't train as a pro player under 18 due to internet restrictions on children, late start to ow2, new talent swept by old ones, but hey at least weibo gaming have a (half decent) overwatch roster

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rivals aint competitive

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lookin

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owcs worlds soon

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ye

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# robust patio ye

No, actually the other one. I wanna know why ne sounds like it’s spelled with a D

sullen berry
# robust patio rivals aint competitive

I think the ex-overwatch community expect too much or try desperately to put Rivals esports onto the same pedestal as OWCS/OWL, which is both terrible for their own growth even if they have an established player base spending money/views

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네

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i dont see how thats fun

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People always spell it “ne” but I hear “de” sometimes

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I just started learning Korean so this shit is confusing

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de is 되 which is 되다 or 된다 in short meaning doable doable

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basically when you are losing a team fight but chorong heesang is like de de

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it means they can win

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dont fall back

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ne means yes yep ok

robust patio
glass sleet
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then u mightve heard it erong

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Sometimes I hear N sometimes I hear D

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wrong

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네 ne always mean yes

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Might be a non Korean ear

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never pronounced de

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for yes

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Isn’t it like how sometimes m sounds like B

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nop

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I’m so annoyed. I can’t remember the examples I heard from Koreans

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be isnt used as a verb

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😵

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Why we talking about verbs now

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I mean B not Be

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Whatever he is

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ah

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I’m trying to remember some examples

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Of the ones I heard

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what situation

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did u hear it

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in an interview

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or in a game comm

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or wat

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Learning video

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oh

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The weird thing for me

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Every phrase would have 3 people speaking it

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3

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Sometimes they sound like they’re using the letter b and sometimes some of them would pronounce it with m

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its gonna take like only a week to say korean but more than a year to learn korean language as a full

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For the same sentence

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But

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Paiting

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its like a korean trying to learn arabic

glass sleet
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I want to learn a new language so I decided on Korean being my third choice

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new dps melee hero looks cool

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vendetta

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holy

glass sleet
# robust patio

I’m actually shocked English isn’t the very bottom lol

glass sleet
# robust patio

At least I was right about Japanese being harder…jeez why did I have to pick a language so hard

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mandarin chinese is impossible

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i tried learning and

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know how to speak some

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but cant write at all

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I mean I already speak one of the hardest languages…what’s another yeah? 💪🏻

robust patio
glass sleet
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thai below korean and english not top 10

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hindi not top 3

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south east asian hands made this

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also cantonese should be 1 theres a few languages probably above mandarin

teal hare
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A lot of people consider English insanely hard to learn

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Cause we just have so many rules we don’t even follow anyway

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lol

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issue with english is its a mishmash of a few languages

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so it is incredibly inconsistent

vestal spoke
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mandarin is just difficult because its pure memorization i cant lie

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you have to memorize at least like 1000 words to have conversations

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not that youll need every word in the 1000

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but like yk

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just in case

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theres no incredibly hard grammar

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no conjugation

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no dumb fucking rules

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its just alot of shit you gotta remember

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the "conjugation" is just saying another word

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yes

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yeah mandarin is hard but its not #1

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cantonese would be #1

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then id say like thai hindi both harder then mandarin probably

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its just a bunch of memorization of like thousands of combinations of radicles and whatnot

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tepid ibex
# robust patio

As someone who learnt Korean no way is it the 3rd hardest 😭😭

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korean is up there as challenging

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for a korean, japanese and chinese is easy

tepid ibex
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It’s up there but nowhere near the top 3 imo

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As an English speaker I found Korean easier than languages like Romanian

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for someone english could be top 1

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its actually him

glass sleet
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That’s why most the world speaks it

errant karma
grim basin
teal hare
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And now America is the cultural superpower of the world (imo) or one of at least

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McDonald’s is the biggest restaurant chain, etc

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Anyways curious how vendetta will change pro play

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Very curious

teal hare
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no reason to think shes better then genji currently

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until trial comes out

cyan hazel
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I can't see a reason why Vendetta doesn't fill the role of reaper very well (unless she has like 200 hp)

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But if maybe Vendetta is super squishy she'd just be marked so easily that I wouldn't think she'd work

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I suppose we will see

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Rlly interesting though p

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i have a feeling shell be a genji freja child

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with 50 armor

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jesus

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she basically a tank

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with block

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not 275 plus 50 armor

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yeah i know still

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thats 325 effective hp + a block

cyan hazel
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cn owcs fans get their own regionlocked shit

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give everythinf marketing related to netease and make it global

errant karma
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this shit would honestly boost global viewership like crazy

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let them engage with the events

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theyll be attracted to the rewards

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wnd theyll watch

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most ow players dont give a.singular shit about esports

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they need to make it more engaging rather than

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here guys

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shitty reskin bundle

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have fun

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heres 2 weapon charms

errant karma
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add esports tab

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add souvenir drops like cs

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gimmie dat cr vs tf 2025 weapon charm dude

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add pick ems with rewards in game

vestal spoke
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we can earn in game currencys like owl tokens for skijs rather than their shittly priced skins

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since blizzard shot themselves in the foot with OWL they just think investing in any ow esports is bad

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like there are so many simple free wins they could have like an esports tab and more ingame promotion of it but they're just gonna forever coast on the bare minimum with owcs

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pick ems would take a programmer like a day or two

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drops already exist just make them cool

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dont make them take 8 years to get and have better drops

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owcs tokens 👀

grave python
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But I agree that they need to put an esports tab

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And more promotion in game

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Cause how do you want to bring more orgs if you don't even support your scene

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I mean

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was being hyperbolic but there are so many free wins they could have

grave python
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Fnatic and other big names won't come if Blizzard don't put more effort

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like literally just put a news thing that links you to owcs schedule

grave python
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They let FaceIt do everything but they can’t do everything

teal hare
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Fnatic even went into games where the difference between org teams and just good players ain’t that big yet (the finals) I think blizzard def needs to do more

grave python
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I really hope Cloud9 will come back too

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souvenir shit

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imagine 2025 wbg vs cr grand finals weapon charm

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like a loot box u get

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open it up

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and get a random charm representing one of the matches

errant karma
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peoples liberation army takes down nazi germany

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❤️

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cr would jave to go to losers bracket and wbg sweep them

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i dont think cr is going to losers

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considering itll be cr vs peps or tl i dont think cr is going down

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+if botj teams win they fight in quarter finals

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wbg or cr habe to be sent to lower

errant karma
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weaker version of team liquid has beat cr before

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anything is possible

vestal spoke
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lets just hope theyre playing bad that day

glass sleet
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They didn’t do well

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They lost to ntmr in EWC in winton mirror

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If the meta is dive then ggs cry wins

mortal cipher
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they left after the season

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but thats Fnatic outside of Val
Fnatic are just disappointing

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Does owcs do 6v6

robust patio
mortal cipher
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Nah

viscid hatch
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It’s speculated it’s 6v6 or team ups

grave python
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It won’t be the team ups mode

robust patio
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Vendetta is either gonna be really broken or really bad

humble token
grave python
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I mean rein is kinda balanced but thats cus he is a tank

grave python
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Kind of

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He’s still struggling a lot in high rank

humble token
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Low rank meta dosent count

grave python
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Ofc it doesn’t

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Not sure how tehy gonna balance vendetta

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I could only see her being played in a rush comp

balmy hound
grave python
grave python
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Doom is ok

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But idk how they’ll balance Vendetta

viscid hatch
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They way they talked about it is that it's a big pvp change

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Once we’ve chatted with the devs, we’ll have a Sunday Showmatch just before Grand Finals to showcase Season 20 updates - in the hands of your favorite OWCS players and creators!

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Could be vendetta but idk

grave python
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Season 20 is Vendetta release

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Aaron Keller said they want to make a radical shift for pvp in the beginning of the year and keep this cadence for the coming years

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Season 15 had perks (February 2025)

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Season 21 will have another big feature so in February 2026 (team ups maybe who knows)

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So they're definitely going to try Vendetta

viscid hatch
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Ah yes okay

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Cool as

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But ngl I'd love to see team ups in pvp

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And I'm too curious to see this in esports

robust patio
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https://x.com/Proto_VI/status/1991849493180862857

Proto VI (@Proto_VI)

The OWCS Finals now has in-game page for Chinese players which includes with the schedule, an mini events (play game to earn points in this event) and "betting" (to gain points in this event) along with being able to get OWCS skins which includes ones that are yet to be released.

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Chinese players got a esports page in game

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But this is made by NetEase

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What a shame we still don't have this

mortal cipher
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Chinese get early access

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Maybe we actually get team skins outside of Venture Ana Ram

vestal spoke
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yeah theres new owcs skins in there

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its got a gold tint to them

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not team skins tho

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so— privilege.

vestal spoke
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sadly

vestal spoke
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it was a deal made with netease

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netease said i overwatch wants to come back to china you gotta let us do these things

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and they agreed

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🤷‍♂️

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its all controlled by netease

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blizzard jad no control over it

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i hope blizzard takes some inspiration

grave python
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I hope we’ll have a esports page in 2026

mortal cipher
grave python
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We’ll see the announcements at Stockholm

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I hope they’ll announce it

vestal spoke
humble token
mortal cipher
vestal spoke
# humble token Thats racist

no
it was a deal made with netease
netease said if overwatch wants to come back to china you gotta let us do these things
and they agreed
🤷‍♂️
its all controlled by netease
blizzard jad no control over it
i hope blizzard takes some inspiration

humble token
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Well if the deal didnt exist it would be racist

vestal spoke
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are we just moving the goalpost now

teal hare
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Most apps have a Chinese version

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And games

mortal cipher
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a lot of games China tends to have things other versions of the game doesn its just how it is

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nothing to do with Race or anything
if anything its a region thing more

turbid rivet
mortal cipher
teal hare
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I’m

Huh??

mortal cipher
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Huh

robust patio
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huh

wise orbit
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peps likely to win stockholm

rancid spade
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can you do practice vs ai for the junkrat lootbox event?

errant karma
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what the fuck????

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ohhhh

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i thought it was dec 9 2025

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why does this tab still exist

robust patio
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owl is finally ending

errant karma
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chill on me

sullen berry
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@errant karma honestly you'll get a better answer this weekend when they ask the devs how they're supporting OW Esports next season

grave python
mortal cipher
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Hopefully

pure bramble
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do y'all think T1 will beat TM

vestal spoke
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i wish there were more lans in canada

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guxue got that shit on tho

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