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hybrid hollow
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nah u gotta watch him play tht hero

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bro plays like he still has 80000% reduction in block

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like there's no skill expression but when bro is in the middle of nowhere holding his hands and dying I think we can point some fingers

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Gk would be better if they played more ball monkey tho cuffa looks really good on those heros

cosmic socket
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im still waiting on the cuffa infekted ball mirror

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really disappointed we haven't seen it yet

hybrid hollow
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We might see it next week

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idk gk are so weird rn

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Like when they lose maps it's so horrid they look like a whole different team

cosmic socket
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i think they can just be dumb about the comps they run

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like theyll force themselves to play these weird dogshit comps for no reason

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remember when they hard forced mauga moira in stage 2 and almost threw playoffs

hybrid hollow
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Like ur on Lucio Kiri ram on kings row this is nothing new

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But they fall over at random

hybrid hollow
robust patio
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lol

sullen berry
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aog2bCGN954
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pure bramble
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i don't think cuffa is realistically very flexible

glass sleet
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ram sucks rn that’s why he’s playing badly on ram rn

pure bramble
pure bramble
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i think he's really good at monkey and hazard

glass sleet
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Infekted is mid but like the same reason you wanna use, zeruhh and tr33 carrying him

pure bramble
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i feel like infekted just needs more depth with his hero pool

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like his Orisa is amazing

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pure bramble
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and he's good enough to make ball work

glass sleet
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I’m sorry but he’s not amazing on anything

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He’s a temu version of someone and someone is a temu version of himself

pure bramble
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i'd say that about cuffa tbh

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Someone has a really good ram

glass sleet
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Ok

pure bramble
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but cuffa ram is

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yk

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pure bramble
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the most Ram we saw him play was in stage one this year

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and it's not like the competition was that fierce

glass sleet
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Sure

pure bramble
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who was the second best ram player of stage 1

glass sleet
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Hawk

pure bramble
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i mean stage 1 of this year

glass sleet
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Ah

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Kellan

pure bramble
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Kellan's ram is not all that crazy

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same wit Infekted

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Painkiller i'd argue is probably pretty close

glass sleet
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Yeah neither is infekted

glass sleet
pure bramble
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i think Hawk being back made me kinda see cuffa differently

glass sleet
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Lol jeez

pure bramble
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like Hawk is a genuine off tank player

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and he's so good on the hero pool he has

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it makes me worry for these tanks that "do it all"

grave python
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Hi

viscid hatch
pure bramble
viscid hatch
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How about instead of playing something excellently, we play a lot of things goodish

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Maybe 1 amazing

pure bramble
viscid hatch
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Hell yeah bro

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Gone are the days of specialising

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I miss pro 6v6

pure bramble
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you could do two tank rosters, but i think they're also hit hard by hero bans

viscid hatch
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I understand base game arguments for 5v5 but pro 6v6 was way more fun to watch

viscid hatch
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And then also talent gets wasted on the bench

pure bramble
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guys, who do we think they're gonna play when they sub in mag?

viscid hatch
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No team should sub in mag

pure bramble
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zeta bought the mag propaganda

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i'm starting to like the tank players that stick to their niche

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Zeb and their ground tank limitation

grave python
viscid hatch
grave python
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I tried to watch OWL in 2018 or 2019 and I didn't really like that much

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Maybe I didn't have the vision idk

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Not that it was bad

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Ofc I liked 6v6 I've been playing OW since 2017

viscid hatch
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Oh cool

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I’ve played ow for a while too and genuinely cannot stand playing 5v5 and I think pro 5v5 is less fun to watch

grave python
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I was 13 yo during the first season of OWL and I was in middle school I wanted to use my time to play the game and other things

glass sleet
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Mag?

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Since he’s subbed in

grave python
viscid hatch
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Fr

pure bramble
viscid hatch
glass sleet
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Ball teams would play ball on suravasa…

grave python
viscid hatch
glass sleet
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Pros prefer 5v5

pure bramble
glass sleet
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At least most of them

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At least the Koreans

viscid hatch
grave python
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But I don't think 6v6 will return as the core format, Aaron has already explained why they got rid of 6v6 and they don't want to return to the previous problems

viscid hatch
glass sleet
pure bramble
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i would be interested in seeing 6v6 in pro play but i don't know how most people feel

viscid hatch
viscid hatch
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pure bramble
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i just think 5v5 limits tank players more than other roles

grave python
pure bramble
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pure bramble
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the results show it

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nah Zeta is just cooked it's not all on mag

viscid hatch
glass sleet
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Bernar can’t win his maps either

grave python
viscid hatch
grave python
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Wait did I wrote shy

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I'm stupid

pure bramble
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i don't feel like the new Zeta additions meshed well with the other players this stage

glass sleet
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Zeta division is cooked in the two esports I watch

viscid hatch
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Cursed

pure bramble
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losing Viol2t was the beginning of the end

viscid hatch
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True

glass sleet
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Zeta can only dismantle wae for their own good

grave python
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Some pros definitely prefer 5v5 like SoOn

glass sleet
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Doesn’t even play

grave python
pure bramble
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Zeta had their best fdps on brig, then they lose Flora

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pure bramble
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Flora really left Zeta to go play Tracer with old man Jinmu in China

grave python
glass sleet
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Cuz he streams and rarely competes

pure bramble
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Jinmu is unc

grave python
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He hasn't played in stage 3 he can have his own reasons

glass sleet
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Soon is 30

grave python
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It's like saying Haku isn't pro cause he didn't play in stage 3

pure bramble
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i just remember that Peps game where SoOn got subbed in just to do nothing on Tracer

grave python
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It's not a matter of age

glass sleet
pure bramble
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i liked stage 1 peps

glass sleet
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He came in to play widow

pure bramble
glass sleet
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Mhm vs tm i remember the game

pure bramble
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poor poor SoOn

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do y'all think Flora is gonna leave China?

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maybe go back to Korea or some other region

glass sleet
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Or dodging military

pure bramble
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but he feels like a valuable player to have

glass sleet
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Really?

pure bramble
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he's looked good against players like Lip

glass sleet
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I mean idk anymore. I wanna say he’s a solid hs but he’s been playing poorly but tbf his whole team is also playing poorly

pure bramble
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he's also got a respectable tracer

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i mean

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better than mer1t tracer

glass sleet
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Merit is the least flexible hs

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And doesn’t make up for it by being the best hs

pure bramble
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i just hate seeker lol

glass sleet
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Lip stalker Quartz all better than merit

glass sleet
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I remember when he went sombra and fell into the well

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He wasn’t forced into it

pure bramble
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even yesterday

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he put on an awful sombra performance

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i forget what map it was

glass sleet
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He played sombra?

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Jeez I really wasn’t paying attention

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All of ntmr were bad yesterday

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Unfortunately. I wanted them to do well

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Losing to Sakura is wild

pure bramble
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wait no

glass sleet
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For the ā€œclearly 4th best teamā€ for both regions lost to 6th place teams

pure bramble
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i think I’m thinking of Lethal from Saturday

glass sleet
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Hey at least geng won

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Been rooting for them whole time

pure bramble
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pure bramble
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Rhyn0 must’ve been gone

glass sleet
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Illios is always their map

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They decide to mirror the only tanks zeb plays

pure bramble
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they’ve been inconsistent with Illios but it’s arguably their best map

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inconsistent as in

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they just sometimes choose not to play it

glass sleet
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Yeah

pure bramble
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i heard PK has also been having internet issues

glass sleet
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PK said in an interview that his WiFi died and they had to play ryhno all maps

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Unfortunate for ntmr

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Hopefully they announce new partnered orgs in Stockholm

pure bramble
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i would love to see NRG back in someway but I don’t think it’s happening

glass sleet
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Why not

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I’m hoping for 2 more

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Nvm

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Not two

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However many

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What are some big orgs that haven’t joined ow

pure bramble
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idk who they’d get for a roster

glass sleet
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Oh Fnatic

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Fnatic came and left

pure bramble
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like, we gonna bring back Scissors and Pge?

glass sleet
pure bramble
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hmm

glass sleet
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For na

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Some org picks up wae

pure bramble
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get rid of that guy

glass sleet
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Like all the better hs are taken

pure bramble
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NA hitscans are hard to come by

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like, really good ones

glass sleet
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So you can’t drop seeker

pure bramble
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is Wub still good

glass sleet
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Who’s that

pure bramble
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nvm he’s retired

glass sleet
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Not enough players

pure bramble
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Chopper would be cool

glass sleet
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The ā€œtop tierā€ players for each region are so few and the rest are tiers below them

glass sleet
pure bramble
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he’s playing for a FACEIT team I think

pure bramble
glass sleet
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Why is bro playing for faceit

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He’s better than the hs we have rn

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Some of them I mean

wet seal
weary scarab
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quartz qapped

teal hare
pure bramble
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he looked good in stage 1

cosmic socket
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hes on yab rn right

shy birch
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Nadie aqui abla espaƱol

sullen berry
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robust patio
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cant wait

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for the finals

grave python
vestal ember
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@hybrid mica

robust patio
robust patio
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na: kevster goes 51-7 and loses

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this region is just unserious

meager orbit
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does anyone know when esportes is?

glass sleet
robust patio
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asia finals

humble token
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Ye just put kev on a saudi team not named vision

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Damn sakura beat ntmr

thorny gazelle
robust patio
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i hope emea or na wins finals this world finals

thorny gazelle
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I don't follow NA closely but feel like Korea is just better on the same strategies most of the time

sullen berry
deep nymph
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Why vp cant play against sym

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Im mad

sage star
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can anyone tell me how next weekend playoff games work as in who will play who if either team wins/loses

glass sleet
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Geng just needs one win to secure third I believe and qualify

sage star
grave python
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Smash is sorry

wise orbit
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poor smash

static turret
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Where was vestola

humble token
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Can falcons still qualify

grave python
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Trust

humble token
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Emea and na gonna have 0 chance of upset if they are in Stockholm

sullen berry
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Brutal how competitive EMEA can be at their best

half gull
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Overwatch need to fix they game

weary scarab
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tm are bad against bad teams and good against good teams for some reason

gleaming frigate
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i miss league tokens

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i want hangzhou spark skins

sullen berry
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I still have owl tokens

teal hare
sullen berry
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Not enough to buy an OWL skin

teal hare
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And that just objectively doesn’t work against a team who isn’t gonna play the best play every time

glass sleet
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I believe in geng to make Stockholm

glass sleet
static turret
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They aren’t

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Falcons are

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Rest of Korea bombed during sym meta mainly bc they didn’t play it. They had no syms to compete with eu sym players

cosmic socket
robust patio
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im still waiting for non asia region to win a finals

static turret
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Youbi isn’t Korean

robust patio
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youbi aint

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falcons

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??

static turret
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You said Korea was good at the sym meta its a single team it’s not Korea it’s falcons the rest of kr lost to the European

robust patio
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falcon team is korea

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which is proper

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who dominated sym meta

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over eu

wary scroll
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falcons vs prime ssg

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Who wins

static turret
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He didn’t play sym a lot during that entire ewc

robust patio
static turret
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He played venture

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And when they played sym merit carried on soj

wary scroll
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wary scroll
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Junker queen

wary scroll
static turret
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Falcons have hanbin

robust patio
static turret
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Best jq

robust patio
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they cant beat korea

static turret
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Bc it’s Korea

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Duh

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Acting like it’s surprising that the best region doesn’t lose

robust patio
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asia is basically korea

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owcs asia is basically owcs korea season two

wary scroll
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what region is xzodyal again?

robust patio
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but korea had falcons

robust patio
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yea emea

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geng

thorny gazelle
glass sleet
glass sleet
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Alqad b falcons was disappointing. Alqad didn’t play at their level. They were too nervous.

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Could’ve been a banger grand finals

teal hare
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Falcons are insane cause of how flexible they are
It’s the thing hardest to beat regarding falcons is no meta is safe

wise orbit
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who are we comparing with because cr and i think t1 consistently beat them in dive

teal hare
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Korea internally will always best eachother at some specific things one does better
But falcons is the most flexible on more then 1 style of play out of the big 3 there
Cr kinda proved last time they ain’t able to keep up with brawl and t1 is worse in the same one

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But falcons can compete with other teams on dive

wise orbit
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It's specifically sym rush

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cr has consistently beaten the west in traditional rush comps

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I think cr can be really good at rush comps if they practice it but they seem to prefer to run dive comps, t1 are basically dive one tricks tho

teal hare
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I wouldn’t say consistently imo

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Cr has kinda been even at times more recently when forced to

grave python
wise orbit
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I definitely think cr are closer to falcons in rush comps than falcons are to cr in dive comps

teal hare
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Oh true but that’s not saying that much cause cr are arguably the best ever for dive to a extreme level
Falcons is still touchable in a mirror comp on rush

wise orbit
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yea

teal hare
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Even if falcons is the best at it arguably as well
They’re touchable in the mirror cr mops the floor in a dive mirror on THERE OWN comp

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On non picked by cr comps I’ve noticed they aren’t as consistent
Well we all remember ntmr vs cr

wise orbit
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im so sad vp wont go to stockholm

teal hare
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There where games they should have won that bad plays stopped them from

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Like vestolas eichenwalde sigma

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Fuckin auto correct suck a fat one wtf

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There we go took 3 attempts

wise orbit
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vestola was mia ever since that game

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but idk if he would make any difference in the play off game, eis played pretty well

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gen.g just locked the fuck in and xzo carried

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i dont mind rooting for them at worlds but i would have preferred vp :p

grave python
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I hope Gen.G will qualify

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Peps or Gen.G will probably be top 3 this stage and if it happens they need to play against the second best NA team which is going to be... tough ?

wise orbit
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ye

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i think gen.g will be third and they will either play tl or geekay

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bro vp against them is actually winnable gen.g has no chance tbh

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rip vp

glass sleet
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They’ve beaten CR on orisa

mortal cipher
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They’ve nested CR everytime they’ve posted since stage 2 outside of the grand finals

robust vine
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no wonder they r against eo

slate parcel
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is there any representation for non humans in owcs?

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like me personally i kind of feel disrespected

robust vine
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theyre still lacking rep

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its so sad in this day n age

grave python
robust vine
grave python
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I wouldn't say awful

slate parcel
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who would u say the best owcs player is

robust vine
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why do u thinkso

grave python
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They're not bad but I don't think they can top the NA seed 2

robust vine
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can easily dominate owc

slate parcel
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he looks like such a cutie as well

robust vine
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i acc dont get why owc is a thing when we can see who would win before it happens

robust vine
slate parcel
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why is owcs a thing when

grave python
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Peps and Gen.G will probably go to Stockholm just to get their ass kicked

slate parcel
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u can get the 5 best people

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and not lose

robust vine
robust vine
grave python
slate parcel
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agree to a draw and both win

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like gentlemans

grave python
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I think CR and T1 will qualifiy for sure

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Falcons probably will but we'll see

grave python
teal hare
static turret
teal hare
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So dhillducks still

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Unless they’re a pacific or Japanese team worse

robust patio
hidden bolt
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i miss Stalk3r :c

robust patio
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bro didnt even win a single final in owcs

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nor even won an ewc mvp

cosmic socket
static turret
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Falcons have had a bad stage and proper has shit the bed. Cr has won every match and chorong is constantly preforming and makes almost no mistakes

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The only bad map he’s had this stage I can think of is vs t1 and that was the map they lost in kr finals

wise orbit
sullen berry
static turret
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Maybe

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Every stage it’s ā€œthey look beatable and weakā€ and they come back and miracle run

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I
Hope they lose tho I want zeta to make it

robust patio
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is basically

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lions with no teeth

sage star
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what tank does tm usually run cause i know they got KSAA and TVNT?

grave python
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But they also run TVNT sometimes

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TVNT has played every maps against VP in their last match and they destroyed them

sage star
grave python
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Maybe

glass sleet
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One week was hazard , second week was zarya and third week was dva

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They’re currently going with tvnt dva

glass sleet
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Imagine if they had teeth

sage star
glass sleet
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glass sleet
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It was the most one sided series between the two teams

glass sleet
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Tm and geng are the teams I’m cheering for in emea so I hope geng qualifies too

glass sleet
sage star
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idk how many they need to win to qual

glass sleet
sage star
glass sleet
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Alqad and tm already qualified

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Just one spot left for geng

sage star
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ngl crazy comeback by geng

glass sleet
sage star
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they better not throw

glass sleet
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To get second place

glass sleet
sage star
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but theoretcally alqad should win

sage star
glass sleet
sage star
glass sleet
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It’s always close so yeah

sage star
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ngl games have been wild recently

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nothing going as expected

glass sleet
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Upsetting upsets

sage star
glass sleet
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sage star
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ngl xyodal carries geng

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he is the win condition

glass sleet
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And out of the hs in emea, he has the better tracer

sage star
glass sleet
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Idc

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Than lip

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Then stalker

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Then the rest

sage star
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i dunno tho

glass sleet
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I do

sage star
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defo not biased i see

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but yeah hes really good

sullen berry
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RUSH: The competition starts tomorrow, but there are a lot of empty seats.

That's a shame.

cosmic socket
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given the proper resources im confident he can get up to that lbbd quartz level of emea hitscan

robust patio
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daejeon is literally a boring city

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known for bread and thats it

sullen berry
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Already locked in my pickems for this weekend's games

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Who has falcons being eliminated tonight? THIS GUY

sullen berry
# robust patio known for bread and thats it

I would probably do a morning filled with day trips eating & shopping around Korea and then cram it with OWCS games.

But not many locals let alone international tourists will have money to do all of that šŸ™

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Wtf did they subject her to

light wren
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Can i ask for kiriko advice in this channel or no

robust patio
light wren
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Stuck plat 1, any advice for kiriko yall have learned over time? Shes my one trick

robust patio
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many people waste cleanse when getting dived

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thats when the enemy knows that your team is easily killable now

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Demontic vs Demonic

errant karma
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how did 2023 vancouver have heesang sugarfree and 4 plumbers who crafted this team no wonder they didnt win shit their dps line was carrying the weight of atlas

sullen berry
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i like punk

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he's still tryna unrust a bit as a solo tank

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but given their last match vs nosebleed

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it looked like they were better off putting colourhex back on tank

sullen berry
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The biggest rename since Farway2025

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Punk changed to Gilly then changed back ti Punk in time for this tournament

robust patio
sullen berry
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Nah someone shared photos

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Clear having his second interview with the Korean presenter

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Every match is elimination

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Praying for ONSIDE, then Falcons up for elimination.

While Gatos Guapos get to chill and continue to enjoy their holiday in the least accessible area of Seoul, Korea

sullen berry
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My god, i finally see why SF Shock Kilo was never a thing

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He just diffed proper during overtime

grave python
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2-2 wth

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Onside is pulling it

sullen berry
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It's Elimination time

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Proper refuses to be stood up against kilo

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but kellan's juggles

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they're so good

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and kilo emp DENIED

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kellan sweat

grave python
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Last round

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gg Falcons

mental vine
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lol

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wait a second

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i thought they are running the mauga/juno comp lmfao

sullen berry
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aww man

static pond
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I felt like when og was defending at first point when they all turn around to kill merlt was a mistake

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They gave up the corner

sullen berry
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it was a really predictable map 5

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when they didn't have the confidence anymore

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after losing a map their momentum was lost

static pond
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I thought kilo was gonna go reaper or sombra

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Not frega

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Freya

sullen berry
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oh man

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with the way this broadcast is going

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they'll be a whole match (90mins) behind schedule

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and the japan matchup is about to start at 2am my time

mental vine
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wait didnt the mauga patch hit on the asia playoffs in korea?

sullen berry
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I know most of you aren't watching because it's early friday morning but geez

no wonder why people aren't into day 1 games

mental vine
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apparently not

sullen berry
mental vine
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if it did, it would turn things around lol

sullen berry
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well, if you were a team bent on playing mauga to win you a ticket to world finals

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what makes you think teams going into this aren't going to have a counter prepared?

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in fact

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zero tank bans needed to be on mauga

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he has effectively been soft banned because the ones playing him are going to be ripped apart

mental vine
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true

sullen berry
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you have to remember

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just because pacific just played

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doesn't mean korea play like the worst region in all of OWCS

mental vine
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like the EWC LCQ

sullen berry
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i dunno really

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if it's going to be a repeat of EWC LCQ

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with a buch of filler saudi teams, then yeah

mental vine
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ik flc is a saudi-org team but its still a korean team nonetheless

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but this is not a bunch of "teams" who looked like they showed up to a booth to demo overwatch 2

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Pelican and Alphayi better not fall flat to proper with his heat engagers on

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mental vine
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Send bernar to geng and bring leesoomin with him

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GG

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Falcons qualified

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Geng better team than zeta

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Not to Stockholm

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if they beat cr there is a higher chance they get to stockholm

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falcons only need to reach lower bracket finals to be in stockholm at least

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They just need to get third

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They might even get second place cuz they always beat T1 no matter what

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LOL

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if they lose to cr

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Falcons lost 2 maps to onsidešŸ’€

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They still qualify for play offs

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Aslong as they dont make it to Stockholm emea has chance to win a major

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Either region has a chance
Unless cr locks in and wins

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If falcons arrives it’s just gg though

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guys is there anyone has an esports teamorcnhelpmeto join an esports team if u can help me just dm me

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I want to see Rupal get his hands on the new Ana perk

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So it dosent count

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Geekay won a single sub map

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Thats it

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Rupal: 1 OWL title
UV: 0

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Therefore Rupal >

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No

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Current Rupal
Is worse

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uv has had a way better year than rupal

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UV was on Toronto he was doomed

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His old Toronto core suited him perfectly with them playing really solid dive

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If Rupal land on a Ball Winston team again He’d be GOATED

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And even that, TL’s top seed for NA

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Looks like this will be a easy win for c

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Cr

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Cr is throwinh

mental vine
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The plot armor is good

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He plays whatever he needs to play but his Kiri is definitely a weaker aspect

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And liquid isnt really a brawl team their identity is being super flexible

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They have Infekted bro his two best tanks are ball Winston 😭😭😭

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Idk I watched their video playoffs last week and it was nothing but Zar brawl for 2 hours straight

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It's bc bans and maps

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Sometimes ur just forced on zar reaper but ideally they wanna play ball every map with a little ram

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Watching Ocie’s co stream for the Emea and NA upper brackets and I was begging for some winston gameplay the entire time

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Thank god Geekay locked it in

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REIN

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The S tier Prize pool for OW isnt as bad as I thought

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3 mil per year and cs2 is 3.75 mil

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Crazy raccoon losing to rein comp in 2025

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NOOO

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NOOO

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Falcons can not keep getting away with this

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NOOO

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EMEA is cooked

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Let’s go!! Falcons qualify to Stockholm!

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EMEA IS SO COOKED

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FALCONS QUALIFIED YESSS

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PLOT ARMOR VICTORY

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I knew falcons were sandbagging

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THEY ARE DEFINITELY DEFENDING THE TITLE

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No way this is the same team that played onside

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TITLE DEFENSE AND 2ND WORLD WIN

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If falcons are winning in this CR meta, than surely falcons for it when it’s a ground meta during world finals

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CRAZY RACCOONS WHO?!???

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Quartz never had zero kill OCs but merit has a lot

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Grow up

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HOLY MERIT PROPER BEST DPS LINE OF ALL TIME

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SO NOW YALL DOUBT ABOUT STALK3R NOT in the starting 5

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I have a new theory I’ve been holding onto for 3 days

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Tobi never underestimate team falcons

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Merit intentionally plays worse with hanbin in cuz he wants his boy someone starting every map

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🧠

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Busted

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Bro CR in the lower bracket

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mental vine
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Falcons won world finals and EWC which are better days

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THEY will be the number 1 seed

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Regardless

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Cr are washed

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if falcons wins final then its gonna be equal to cr now

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They lost to falcons and to rein comp in 2025 lol

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3:3

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emea na finals win when

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Lol demontic had to run in here to defend cr real quick

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im falcon fan too lel

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but alr

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im korea fan but let him be

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He is a Korean fan like me

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cheering for any korean team that qualifies

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So I’m Korea-biased as well

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Korea is the dominant region

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For a REASON

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Just like League of Legends

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no i dont ???

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Don’t lie

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bruh im literally a stalker proper fan

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Lying is bad for your health

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😭

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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i know lol

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😭

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if i wasnt a falcon fan

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I wish he did

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I miss my stalker

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i wouldnt even have gotten their signature

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Not my stalker

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I meant the player

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nor takr a picture

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Who is funding Crazy Raccoons?

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lmao

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bruh i was a stalker fan since atlanta reign with Lip

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Is it just 5 bobs versus Oil money in asia OWCS

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this useless argument

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šŸ’€

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ā€œoldenoughā€ šŸ„€

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washed esports since apex

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but alr

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i doubt anyone watching ow esports earlier than me

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You suck

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Wae vs t1

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I think wae has a chance

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The amount of yappery was wild

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grave python
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Let’s be real cr are winning Stockholm

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# grave python Peak

Bernar illusion Pelican Flora Mer1t Stalk3r Someone Chorong Ade Lip Moon vigilante undersea Whoru Max Shu Mealgaru Yoon Kalios Daisy Maka Peppi Izayaki Junbin Finn viol2t Leonopteryx Proper Bliss viper Heesang epic Alphayi Hanbin Babel Probe Prophet Leesoomin Chiyo Ans

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Speaking of bernar

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no na ema

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😭😭😭

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Send him to GenG to be coached by crusty

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I want na or eu to win though

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But they prob won’t

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Ur like a coelacanth emerging out of nowhere @glass sleet

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Did t1 qualify for Stockholm

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# mental vine Crusty is long gone

Really? He’s making a bunch of nobodies qualify to Stockholm today and you’re saying he’s long gone? Better be on geng than freaking zeta

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Was a million years old

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I hate when discord changes my texts to emotes

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Glad to roast ya

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I didnt know Crazy Raccoons was a major super Org. Japan isnt always known for Esports IMO

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Wae**

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or im just ignorant

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i still want a non korean team to win finas

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but thats a dream

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It’s just not gonna happen

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Maybe EMEA wins next year

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but i doubt idk

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Like he’s playing with Youbi lmfao

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Never gonna win a title

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NA’s the only region without an Infinite Money glitch org backing them

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If quartz moves to a good team then yeah

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Like you’d need best of eu on one team instead of it being spread out

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Imagine Quartz spoke Korean

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And two cracked Koreans obviously

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He turned down an owl contract

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Quartz on T1 sounds so weird

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Back in the day

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He declined being an owl champion

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Aura

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At that time

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merit prime soj

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is insane

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-lip

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Just saying back when he won

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that wasnt his prime

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Quartz is a top 5 dps though atm for sure if not higher imo

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Why not?

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I’m gonna watch Stockholm though if it’s dive meta still

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The performance level he’s putting out constantly on his shit team tells you a lot about his level

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When this game is brawl meta it’s so shit

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im sure a lot of hitscans would overperform if they had that structure around them

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I love brawl

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Like checkmate merit someone chorong

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Such a good team

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ive met rupal

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Have you heard their comms lmao

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Unlike merit who soj ults TWICE on king’s row and doesn’t get a single kill

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Tbf do you need to know more comms than ā€œshoot anaā€

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šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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Everyone just yelling monkey monkey monkey

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Haha your only point to merit being bad seems to be you watched him play a few maps of sojourn and didnt get many overclock kills

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like you watch his performance today and still want to glaze quartz just cause he stands out in a worse region than korea

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insane elite ball know

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ledge

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every level is lower

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Oh…I see what you’re doing

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Ragebaiting

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Lol

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tbh even if quartz becomes prime

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i still doubt

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emea winning finals

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twice

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The only thing youve said Twice is that merit cannot sojourn ult = quartz is better

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emea lose just from team gap not dps gap

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Btw guys. If someone says ā€œI like ice creamā€ doesn’t mean they hate hot food

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lol the inaugural mvp himself Jjonak is celebrating falcons w

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Someone people are just stupid

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Tobi buddy i am repeating back to you your own messages

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and you are saying you dont mean it

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Holy shit

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Either actually read properly or just don’t

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Wtf

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Aaaaand I’m falling for your rage baiting again

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Ggs

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šŸ‘šŸ»

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so that is your evidence

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and I will present my evidence for merit being better than quartz

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  1. dominates the hardest region in the world (korea > emea)
  2. won overwatch league
  3. joined falcons and won midseason championship
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  1. made grand finals in 2024 esports world cup with toronto
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and you think because merit has bad overclocks quartz is better!!!! good job buddy!!!!

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Bro thinks team achievements are him being better but pop off king

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Keep going

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šŸ‘šŸ»

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let me clarify this argument

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šŸ‘šŸ»

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prime merit>>>>>prime quartz

rn

quartz >>>>>merit

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It’s funny talking to this guy. He keeps bringing up things I didn’t say

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yall be happy now

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I’m learning new things from him

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āœšŸ»

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you said it twice

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I’ll write your notes down

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Don’t worry

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unfortunately i cant post screenshots but i replied to both messages

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where you said the same thing @tobi

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I will do it again for you

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imma go eat dinner

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# mental vine Bro is studying lol

Sheee I have to at this point. He’s basically arguing with himself by replying to points that weren’t made in order to ā€œwinā€ idk it’s weird but but how else will I understand something so smooth brained

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WHY ISNT MEALGARU ON BALL

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why are u clowning me 😵

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bro has not seen prime merit

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Cuz you know

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They imagine things often

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nvm he hasnt even seen a single owl game

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Yes i want to assault you right now

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To watch

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so bad

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Merit shows up when it matters (money on the line)

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I have seen merit on mayham

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And also I’m like Chris McLean from Total Drama Island

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So… I’m enjoying from the sidelines

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Yes

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bro has not seen owl

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i respect ur opinion

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The issue is tabi you havent presented any evidence for your claim that quartz is better, the ONLY thing youve said is merits overclocks are worse than quartz so I can only take that as your singular piece of evidence

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while i have presented 5 points

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Merit is stable on a team of bright spots. Quartz is a bright spot on a stable team.

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Do yall think the S tier tourneys for OWCS deserves to be like $4mil+ one day

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I really want to believe you but i cannot as you havent said anything substantial

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ik Merit isn’t always as flashy as quartz but he’s equally as impactful

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Merit isn’t as consistent and that’s his biggest issue but he’s just lucky he’s always on stacked teams cuz he’s a deal package with someone. Many games have been won despite merit unlike Quartz who always performs despite his team. If you can’t understand the truth than you are genuinely riding too hard

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The simpliest way to think about it is if two players both shine and dominate in diferent regions but one region is stronger than the other which player must be better?

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I would say the player in the harder region

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That’s all I say cuz I shall not waste any more time on delulu people

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I’m too good

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Dont waste your time anymore

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🤣

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Idk how people though Ow1 was competitive at all. A cass could just walk around a hot spot and tap heads without anyone caring

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But merit did play tm when he’s on TD and quartz literally rolled his shit

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Owl gameplay looks like a clown show compared to now

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