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bro plays like he still has 80000% reduction in block
like there's no skill expression but when bro is in the middle of nowhere holding his hands and dying I think we can point some fingers
Gk would be better if they played more ball monkey tho cuffa looks really good on those heros
im still waiting on the cuffa infekted ball mirror
really disappointed we haven't seen it yet
We might see it next week
idk gk are so weird rn
Like when they lose maps it's so horrid they look like a whole different team
i think they can just be dumb about the comps they run
like theyll force themselves to play these weird dogshit comps for no reason
remember when they hard forced mauga moira in stage 2 and almost threw playoffs
Nah they'll lose maps on the same comps they usually play
Like ur on Lucio Kiri ram on kings row this is nothing new
But they fall over at random
yeah that was dumb asf š
lol
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i don't think cuffa is realistically very flexible
He plays ram monkey hazard good enough to beat a small team called CR
ram sucks rn thatās why heās playing badly on ram rn
his whole team played outta their mind that day
Ggs
i think he's really good at monkey and hazard

Infekted is mid but like the same reason you wanna use, zeruhh and tr33 carrying him
i feel like infekted just needs more depth with his hero pool
like his Orisa is amazing
Doubt
and he's good enough to make ball work
Iām sorry but heās not amazing on anything
Heās a temu version of someone and someone is a temu version of himself
Ok

Good enough to play well and win most games last stages I agree
the most Ram we saw him play was in stage one this year
and it's not like the competition was that fierce
who was the second best ram player of stage 1
Hawk
i mean stage 1 of this year
Kellan's ram is not all that crazy
same wit Infekted
Painkiller i'd argue is probably pretty close
Yeah neither is infekted
I agree
i think Hawk being back made me kinda see cuffa differently
Lol jeez
like Hawk is a genuine off tank player
and he's so good on the hero pool he has
it makes me worry for these tanks that "do it all"
Hi
Me when 5v5 reduces pro tank refinement
enter Ziyad
How about instead of playing something excellently, we play a lot of things goodish
Maybe 1 amazing
it limits tank players a lot i feel
you could do two tank rosters, but i think they're also hit hard by hero bans
I understand base game arguments for 5v5 but pro 6v6 was way more fun to watch
Yep
And then also talent gets wasted on the bench
guys, who do we think they're gonna play when they sub in mag?
No team should sub in mag
zeta bought the mag propaganda
i'm starting to like the tank players that stick to their niche
Zeb and their ground tank limitation
I prefer today
Oh Fr? Why so?
I tried to watch OWL in 2018 or 2019 and I didn't really like that much
Maybe I didn't have the vision idk
Not that it was bad
Ofc I liked 6v6 I've been playing OW since 2017
Oh cool
Iāve played ow for a while too and genuinely cannot stand playing 5v5 and I think pro 5v5 is less fun to watch
I was 13 yo during the first season of OWL and I was in middle school I wanted to use my time to play the game and other things
Wdym
Mag?
Since heās subbed in

Yeah it's a matter of taste, no problem with preferring 5v5 or 6v6
Fr
what hero would Mag possibly play if he gets subbed in on Suravasa
I wound love to know the majority of preference
Ball
Ball teams would play ball on suravasaā¦
I kinda want to as well
Do you have reasons you prefer 5v5 pro?
Pros prefer 5v5
yea but subbing isn't it just an invitation to basically say "come and target ban me if we don't protect ban"
Thatās no inherently true, especially western, investigated by uncozchable podcast
But I don't think 6v6 will return as the core format, Aaron has already explained why they got rid of 6v6 and they don't want to return to the previous problems
The previous problems were a product of the old dev team though. Not the format, Iām optimistic that 6v6 could flourish with these devs
What youāre saying is made up
i would be interested in seeing 6v6 in pro play but i don't know how most people feel
No itās not
Where is your proof for this
Youāre acting like he wouldnāt be in all the time anyway
i just think 5v5 limits tank players more than other roles
I feel like it's more dynamic, more legible but I don't think 5v5 is the only thing that made the game more legible, more opportunity for dps to shine
if they're playing more Mag than Bernar, they might have bigger problems
From interviews and posts since owl ended
Theyāve been playing more mag than bernar
I donāt agree with this, as in pro play, we definitely had dps shine the most, as 3/4 mvps were damage, and we once had 5 dps role starts because the couldnāt decide
Bernar canāt win his maps either
I don't think all of them prefer 5v5 but if they still play in pro, they definitely like 5v5.
Ah I see, I wojld love to see a concrete survey from the pros
Right
i don't feel like the new Zeta additions meshed well with the other players this stage
Zeta division is cooked in the two esports I watch
Cursed
losing Viol2t was the beginning of the end
True
Zeta can only dismantle wae for their own good
Some pros definitely prefer 5v5 like SoOn
āProā
Doesnāt even play
SoOn plays for team peps
Zeta had their best fdps on brig, then they lose Flora
I know heās signed for them but when did he play last?
Flora really left Zeta to go play Tracer with old man Jinmu in China
Stage 2 I guess but still ? If he's signd for team peps he's still a pro
Moneh
Heās signed more like their content created than player
Cuz he streams and rarely competes
Jinmu is unc
He hasn't played in stage 3 he can have his own reasons
Soon is 30
It's like saying Haku isn't pro cause he didn't play in stage 3
i just remember that Peps game where SoOn got subbed in just to do nothing on Tracer
It's not a matter of age
I guess we just naming everyone pro these days 
i liked stage 1 peps
Cuz widow got banned right?
He came in to play widow
yea and it was during the sym torb shenanigans
Mhm vs tm i remember the game
poor poor SoOn
do y'all think Flora is gonna leave China?
maybe go back to Korea or some other region
I think heāll only chase the bag before he retires
Or dodging military
respectable tbh
but he feels like a valuable player to have
Really?
he's looked good against players like Lip
I mean idk anymore. I wanna say heās a solid hs but heās been playing poorly but tbf his whole team is also playing poorly
Everyone is better than that
Merit is the least flexible hs
And doesnāt make up for it by being the best hs
Lip stalker Quartz all better than merit
ā¦canāt defend seeker
I remember when he went sombra and fell into the well
He wasnāt forced into it
He played sombra?
Jeez I really wasnāt paying attention
All of ntmr were bad yesterday
Unfortunately. I wanted them to do well
Losing to Sakura is wild
wait no
For the āclearly 4th best teamā for both regions lost to 6th place teams
i think Iām thinking of Lethal from Saturday
i knew Sakura had the potential to upset but i didnāt think NTMR would go out so sad
If ntmr played their proper performance than Sakura has no chance
Rhyn0 mustāve been gone
theyāve been inconsistent with Illios but itās arguably their best map
inconsistent as in
they just sometimes choose not to play it
Theyāve beaten TL and other top na teams on it
Yeah
i heard PK has also been having internet issues
PK said in an interview that his WiFi died and they had to play ryhno all maps
Unfortunate for ntmr
Hopefully they announce new partnered orgs in Stockholm
i would love to see NRG back in someway but I donāt think itās happening
Why not
Iām hoping for 2 more
Nvm
Not two
However many
What are some big orgs that havenāt joined ow
idk who theyād get for a roster
like, we gonna bring back Scissors and Pge?
Theyād just pick up ntmr
hmm
So you canāt drop seeker
is Wub still good
nvm heās retired
Not enough players
Chopper would be cool
The ātop tierā players for each region are so few and the rest are tiers below them
Havenāt seen him since TSM
heās playing for a FACEIT team I think
he played on timeless earlier this year
Still?
Why is bro playing for faceit
Heās better than the hs we have rn
Some of them I mean
no lip and merit are a tier above the rest
Right now thatās probably arguable how long has it been since heās played on a t1 team
he looked good in stage 1
hes on yab rn right
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Same
@hybrid mica
yes
does anyone know when esportes is?
Kevster and eis both had 51 elims
That's EMEA and it just proves how competitive the region is that 3/4 playoff games have been upsets if u look at regular season standings
oh its emea
i hope emea or na wins finals this world finals
If sym is still good should be possible for EMEA but idk if she's still gonna be as good as at ewc
I don't follow NA closely but feel like Korea is just better on the same strategies most of the time
#roles-old get the esports announcement channel when esport is live, you need to connect your account to twitch to get drops while watching
can anyone tell me how next weekend playoff games work as in who will play who if either team wins/loses
Which region
For emea, alqad plays tm in upper bracket and the loser of that plays the winner of GenG v Peps lower bracket game which is most likely geng
Geng just needs one win to secure third I believe and qualify
thanks
that would be wild if geng beat peps
poor smash
He should be
Where was vestola
Can falcons still qualify
Emea and na gonna have 0 chance of upset if they are in Stockholm
Im sorry smash that you had to apologize
Brutal how competitive EMEA can be at their best
thanks
Overwatch need to fix they game
tm got it
tm are bad against bad teams and good against good teams for some reason
I still have owl tokens
Thatās cause tms strats are very ācounter the best playsā playstyles
Not enough to buy an OWL skin
And that just objectively doesnāt work against a team who isnāt gonna play the best play every time
I think geng are the better team so itās not that wild for me
I believe in geng to make Stockholm
Cuz Quartz doesnāt feel motivated around bad teams
asia is good at sym meta too
They arenāt
Falcons are
Rest of Korea bombed during sym meta mainly bc they didnāt play it. They had no syms to compete with eu sym players
didnt peps just lose to good guys
thats still korea
im still waiting for non asia region to win a finals
Youbi isnāt Korean
You said Korea was good at the sym meta its a single team itās not Korea itās falcons the rest of kr lost to the European
He didnāt play sym a lot during that entire ewc
in what meta
JOATS
falc
Junker queen
ok
Falcons have hanbin
even with eu sym meta
Best jq
they cant beat korea
Bc itās Korea
Duh
Acting like itās surprising that the best region doesnāt lose
what region is xzodyal again?
they almost lost to eu sym meta to alqad
but korea had falcons
tbh I wouldve liked to see Falcons play TM as well as they have slightly different sym style but Falcons probably just too good when it matters
Heās Spanish playing in emea for GenG
Falcons didnāt even play much sym. Itās obvious they preferred not to play sym
Alqad b falcons was disappointing. Alqad didnāt play at their level. They were too nervous.
Couldāve been a banger grand finals
Falcons are insane cause of how flexible they are
Itās the thing hardest to beat regarding falcons is no meta is safe
who are we comparing with because cr and i think t1 consistently beat them in dive
Other regions
Korea internally will always best eachother at some specific things one does better
But falcons is the most flexible on more then 1 style of play out of the big 3 there
Cr kinda proved last time they aināt able to keep up with brawl and t1 is worse in the same one
But falcons can compete with other teams on dive
It's specifically sym rush
cr has consistently beaten the west in traditional rush comps
I think cr can be really good at rush comps if they practice it but they seem to prefer to run dive comps, t1 are basically dive one tricks tho
I wouldnāt say consistently imo
Cr has kinda been even at times more recently when forced to
Fr
I definitely think cr are closer to falcons in rush comps than falcons are to cr in dive comps
Oh true but thatās not saying that much cause cr are arguably the best ever for dive to a extreme level
Falcons is still touchable in a mirror comp on rush
yea
Even if falcons is the best at it arguably as well
Theyāre touchable in the mirror cr mops the floor in a dive mirror on THERE OWN comp
On non picked by cr comps Iāve noticed they arenāt as consistent
Well we all remember ntmr vs cr
im so sad vp wont go to stockholm
There where games they should have won that bad plays stopped them from
Like vestolas eichenwalde sigma
Fuckin auto correct suck a fat one wtf
There we go took 3 attempts
vestola was mia ever since that game
but idk if he would make any difference in the play off game, eis played pretty well
gen.g just locked the fuck in and xzo carried
i dont mind rooting for them at worlds but i would have preferred vp :p
Same I really love VP
I hope Gen.G will qualify
Peps or Gen.G will probably be top 3 this stage and if it happens they need to play against the second best NA team which is going to be... tough ?
ye
i think gen.g will be third and they will either play tl or geekay
bro vp against them is actually winnable gen.g has no chance tbh
rip vp
I mean t1 were good in orisa meta
Theyāve beaten CR on orisa
Theyāve nested CR everytime theyāve posted since stage 2 outside of the grand finals
ngl theyre both awful
no wonder they r against eo
is there any representation for non humans in owcs?
like me personally i kind of feel disrespected
Peps and Gen G awful ?
yea
I wouldn't say awful
who would u say the best owcs player is
why do u thinkso
They're not bad but I don't think they can top the NA seed 2
youbi prob
can easily dominate owc
i acc dont get why owc is a thing when we can see who would win before it happens
ur right
oh yea i respect that
why is owcs a thing when
Peps and Gen.G will probably go to Stockholm just to get their ass kicked
who are u betting on winning
thats y they put bad players in every team they want a balance
Idk for now I'll make preds when all teams are qualified for the worlds
yea thats cool
why cant they just
agree to a draw and both win
like gentlemans
If u mean Gen.G or Peps, I'd say Gen.G
The dhillducks play as if theyāre actually ducks so
Bottom seed of any region
stalker but hes gone so its shu
i miss Stalk3r :c
youbi aint the best šµ
bro didnt even win a single final in owcs
nor even won an ewc mvp
#zetawin
Right now itās chorong
Falcons have had a bad stage and proper has shit the bed. Cr has won every match and chorong is constantly preforming and makes almost no mistakes
The only bad map heās had this stage I can think of is vs t1 and that was the map they lost in kr finals
proper
Statistically lower but odds are its really hard to say if Falcons are actually crumbling or just holding back until the one comp they play best comes back
Falcons will make it bc they are falcons
Maybe
Every stage itās āthey look beatable and weakā and they come back and miracle run
I
Hope they lose tho I want zeta to make it
falcons with no stalker
is basically
lions with no teeth
what tank does tm usually run cause i know they got KSAA and TVNT?
KSAA
But they also run TVNT sometimes
TVNT has played every maps against VP in their last match and they destroyed them
yeah you think there gonna run them again alquad they ran tvnt against them before and done ok
Maybe
Yeah
Ngl every week theyāre on a new tank
One week was hazard , second week was zarya and third week was dva
Theyāre currently going with tvnt dva
Those teethless lions won EWC
Imagine if they had teeth

yeah looks like they've been running tvnt recently
Yeah and itās working.
hopefully they keep playing him them (i put him on my roster)
Against alqad is their next game right? You sure you want that? Tm are the underdog so you might be losing on points
yean but if they lose they go against geng who will beat peps and then lose to tm
i still think they will do okay aslong as they dont go neg
Tbh tm 4-2 alqad in sel so you might be onto something
yeah they are doing better aainst them now
they dont need to win just play ok
It was the most one sided series between the two teams
yeah lol
Tm and geng are the teams Iām cheering for in emea so I hope geng qualifies too
yeah hopefully they beat peps
They should
idk how many they need to win to qual
They just need to beat Peps and theyāre guaranteed third
cool they should make it then
ngl crazy comeback by geng
Slow start but theyāre doing it
you think this will impact performance as in whether they try really hard
they better not throw
Tbh idk. Second seed in emea gets an easier path in world finals so ngl tm and alqad MIGHT sandbag
To get second place
interesting we will see
Yeah all I care about atm is geng qualifying
but theoretcally alqad should win
they got it should be a fun game to watch
Based off latest results, tm should win.
yeah i mean we will see
Itās always close so yeah
Upsetting upsets
yeah esp for vp š
Nah Iām glad Vp didnāt make it cuz than geng canāt. Fuk vp (no hate) Iām upset ntmr lost to Sakura
yeah idk what happened to ntmr they jsut fell off
Upsetting
Heās a great hs
And out of the hs in emea, he has the better tracer
yeah hes definitely up there w lbbd7
Quartz is the best hs
Idc

Than lip
Then stalker
Then the rest
I do
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RUSH: The competition starts tomorrow, but there are a lot of empty seats.
That's a shame.
he's hella young too
given the proper resources im confident he can get up to that lbbd quartz level of emea hitscan
well their fault for doing it in daejeon (not seoul or busan)
daejeon is literally a boring city
known for bread and thats it
Unofficial Pick'ems for OWCS and alike tournaments
Already locked in my pickems for this weekend's games
Who has falcons being eliminated tonight? THIS GUY
I would probably do a morning filled with day trips eating & shopping around Korea and then cram it with OWCS games.
But not many locals let alone international tourists will have money to do all of that š
Wtf did they subject her to
Can i ask for kiriko advice in this channel or no
go ahead
Stuck plat 1, any advice for kiriko yall have learned over time? Shes my one trick
dont waste cleanse, just climb walls frequently if you are getting dived
many people waste cleanse when getting dived
thats when the enemy knows that your team is easily killable now
Demontic vs Demonic
how did 2023 vancouver have heesang sugarfree and 4 plumbers who crafted this team no wonder they didnt win shit their dps line was carrying the weight of atlas
lol
they had punk
weak tank
i like punk
he's still tryna unrust a bit as a solo tank
but given their last match vs nosebleed
it looked like they were better off putting colourhex back on tank
The biggest rename since Farway2025
Punk changed to Gilly then changed back ti Punk in time for this tournament
u are in korea?
Nah someone shared photos
Clear having his second interview with the Korean presenter
Every match is elimination
Praying for ONSIDE, then Falcons up for elimination.
While Gatos Guapos get to chill and continue to enjoy their holiday in the least accessible area of Seoul, Korea
My god, i finally see why SF Shock Kilo was never a thing
He just diffed proper during overtime
It's Elimination time
Proper refuses to be stood up against kilo
but kellan's juggles
they're so good
and kilo emp DENIED
kellan sweat
I felt like when og was defending at first point when they all turn around to kill merlt was a mistake
They gave up the corner
it was a really predictable map 5
when they didn't have the confidence anymore
after losing a map their momentum was lost
oh man
with the way this broadcast is going
they'll be a whole match (90mins) behind schedule
and the japan matchup is about to start at 2am my time
wait didnt the mauga patch hit on the asia playoffs in korea?
I know most of you aren't watching because it's early friday morning but geez
no wonder why people aren't into day 1 games
apparently not
they're actively not playing mauga lol
wasnt s19 patch hit live? LMFAO
if it did, it would turn things around lol
well, if you were a team bent on playing mauga to win you a ticket to world finals
what makes you think teams going into this aren't going to have a counter prepared?
in fact
zero tank bans needed to be on mauga
he has effectively been soft banned because the ones playing him are going to be ripped apart
true
you have to remember
just because pacific just played
doesn't mean korea play like the worst region in all of OWCS
will flc crush zeta again like last time?
LMFAO
like the EWC LCQ
i dunno really
if it's going to be a repeat of EWC LCQ
with a buch of filler saudi teams, then yeah
ik flc is a saudi-org team but its still a korean team nonetheless
but this is not a bunch of "teams" who looked like they showed up to a booth to demo overwatch 2
Pelican and Alphayi better not fall flat to proper with his heat engagers on
i missed stalk3r lowkey
hes da goat of ow tbh
yea smurf who?
Send bernar to geng and bring leesoomin with him
GG
Falcons qualified
Geng better team than zeta
also if flc beats cr they are auto qualifying for sweden
Ikr
if they beat cr there is a higher chance they get to stockholm
falcons only need to reach lower bracket finals to be in stockholm at least
They just need to get third
They might even get second place cuz they always beat T1 no matter what
before that they need to beat WAE
LOL
if they lose to cr
Falcons lost 2 maps to onsideš
They still qualify for play offs
Aslong as they dont make it to Stockholm emea has chance to win a major
Either region has a chance
Unless cr locks in and wins
If falcons arrives itās just gg though
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I want to see Rupal get his hands on the new Ana perk
UV is better
3-0 by TL last week ok buddy
Woud you tap ball ethen if he had balls?
Genuinely looking forward to costa rica
uv has had a way better year than rupal
UV was on Toronto he was doomed
Current Rupalās playing on a brawl team
His old Toronto core suited him perfectly with them playing really solid dive
If Rupal land on a Ball Winston team again Heād be GOATED
And even that, TLās top seed for NA
Cr is throwinh
well the series aint over yet
The plot armor is good
Acting like Rupal wasn't on bap Moira on Florida
He plays whatever he needs to play but his Kiri is definitely a weaker aspect
And liquid isnt really a brawl team their identity is being super flexible
Also liquid is literally a ball Winston team š
They have Infekted bro his two best tanks are ball Winston ššš
Idk I watched their video playoffs last week and it was nothing but Zar brawl for 2 hours straight
It's bc bans and maps
Sometimes ur just forced on zar reaper but ideally they wanna play ball every map with a little ram
Watching Ocieās co stream for the Emea and NA upper brackets and I was begging for some winston gameplay the entire time
Thank god Geekay locked it in
REIN
The S tier Prize pool for OW isnt as bad as I thought
3 mil per year and cs2 is 3.75 mil
Crazy raccoon losing to rein comp in 2025
Falcons can not keep getting away with this
NOOO
EMEA is cooked
Letās go!! Falcons qualify to Stockholm!
EMEA IS SO COOKED
I knew falcons were sandbagging
THEY ARE DEFINITELY DEFENDING THE TITLE
No way this is the same team that played onside
TITLE DEFENSE AND 2ND WORLD WIN
If falcons are winning in this CR meta, than surely falcons for it when itās a ground meta during world finals
CRAZY RACCOONS WHO?!???
nice take buddy
Ok? Quartz wouldāve played better so if still stands
Quartz never had zero kill OCs but merit has a lot
Grow up

Tobi the plot armor has won
HOLY MERIT PROPER BEST DPS LINE OF ALL TIME
SO NOW YALL DOUBT ABOUT STALK3R NOT in the starting 5
I miss him 
I have a new theory Iāve been holding onto for 3 days
Tobi never underestimate team falcons
Merit intentionally plays worse with hanbin in cuz he wants his boy someone starting every map
š§
Busted
I never did wdym??
Bro CR in the lower bracket
The greatest day ever
Imagine losing to WAE
Itās not
It still is
Falcons won world finals and EWC which are better days
At least they qualified to world finals FIRST
Jesus
THEY will be the number 1 seed
Theyād qualify no matter what
Yep 50:50 but playin armor are on their side
Regardless

I see that ur channeling junbin
Cr are washed
if falcons wins final then its gonna be equal to cr now
They are
They lost to falcons and to rein comp in 2025 lol
Nah that shit was funny
Lol demontic had to run in here to defend cr real quick
Bro doesnāt get it at all
im korea fan but let him be
He is a Korean fan like me
So Iām Korea-biased as well
Korea is the dominant region
For a REASON
Just like League of Legends
Youāre only a Korea fan when falcons win. When cr win, you talk so much shit towards falcons

no i dont ???
Donāt lie
bruh im literally a stalker proper fan
Lying is bad for your health
I honestly donāt care
š
Stalker doesnāt even play
HAHAHAHAHAHA
i know lol
š
if i wasnt a falcon fan
i wouldnt even have gotten their signature
Did you
nor takr a picture
Who is funding Crazy Raccoons?
i got all falcon member signature
I donāt cheer for Messi but that doesnāt mean I wouldnāt get his signature if i had the chance. Stupid argument
lmao
World cup World Cup World Cup
Mother raccoon
bruh i was a stalker fan since atlanta reign with Lip
Father falcon
Is it just 5 bobs versus Oil money in asia OWCS
Lol not old enough buddy
You older like the dinosaurs
āoldenoughā š„
Yea ur ancient
washed esports since apex
but alr
i doubt anyone watching ow esports earlier than me
Iām only 40 you ahole
Nah u ancient

Bro expresses with the emojis
You suck
Wae vs t1
I think wae has a chance
yawns
Not against T1
Lol
All I heard was āblah blah blahā
Wae better in the brawl comps
The amount of yappery was wild
Damn you be hearing texts now? Is that a young gen thing?
Peak
No
Letās be real cr are winning Stockholm
You really ARE ancient
Bernar illusion Pelican Flora Mer1t Stalk3r Someone Chorong Ade Lip Moon vigilante undersea Whoru Max Shu Mealgaru Yoon Kalios Daisy Maka Peppi Izayaki Junbin Finn viol2t Leonopteryx Proper Bliss viper Heesang epic Alphayi Hanbin Babel Probe Prophet Leesoomin Chiyo Ans
HAIRUAJSIDNW STOP
Holy
What a lineup
I didnāt know ur a living fossil
its either gonna be cr or falc
Speaking of bernar
no na ema
Send him to GenG to be coached by crusty
Ur like a coelacanth emerging out of nowhere @glass sleet
Did t1 qualify for Stockholm
Crusty is long gone
Whatās that
An old fish thought to be extinct until like in the 20th century
Really? Heās making a bunch of nobodies qualify to Stockholm today and youāre saying heās long gone? Better be on geng than freaking zeta
Was a million years old
No impact on geng
Thatās cool wtf
Stop
And that equates to you
Iām cool? Thanks!
If they beat wae then yeah
Anytime partner
I hate when discord changes my texts to emotes
Glad to roast ya
I was too confused to feel roasted
Whoās on was
I didnt know Crazy Raccoons was a major super Org. Japan isnt always known for Esports IMO
Wae**
or im just ignorant
i still want a non korean team to win finas
Itās nice knowing ya itās gonna be a great season š
but thats a dream
I think everyone does
Season bout to end
Itās just not gonna happen
Maybe EMEA wins next year
On a high note š

Nah
maybe when lip roper goes to army
Jun-B incomin
hmm maybe if lip serves army
but i doubt idk
The rest of quartz team isnāt as good as cr or falcons
Like heās playing with Youbi lmfao
Never gonna win a title
fair
NAās the only region without an Infinite Money glitch org backing them
If quartz moves to a good team then yeah
Like youād need best of eu on one team instead of it being spread out
Imagine Quartz spoke Korean
And two cracked Koreans obviously
I donāt think he wants to leave Saudi
He turned down an owl contract
Quartz on T1 sounds so weird
Back in the day
I know. I said imagine
Would be wild
Tbf merit was probably better at sojourn
At that time
yes
Can a quirky Saudi boy speak some korean
Imma just say Quartz packed him up when they played TD
-lip
Ye he was insane that run in
Idk anymore
Just saying back when he won
that wasnt his prime
Anyone can learn but the issue is, he doesnāt wanna join a kr org.
Quartz is a top 5 dps though atm for sure if not higher imo
Why not?
Heās comfortable in Saudi Arabia
bad comm
Heās at least third best hs
Ye
Iām gonna watch Stockholm though if itās dive meta still
The performance level heās putting out constantly on his shit team tells you a lot about his level
When this game is brawl meta itās so shit
his teams whole identify is based around tping and pocketing him around
when the meta is poke*
im sure a lot of hitscans would overperform if they had that structure around them
Tbh I donāt think poke really exists in 5v5
Rupal played with 4 Koreans on Mayhem and he was fine though
4koreans knew english
Rupal was rlly good but that was also an insanely strong roster
You know they werenāt playing sym all year. Even during mauga meta or even orisa meta he was still rolling people. No matter how badly his team plays. Heās always popping off
I love brawl
also rupal knows some good korean gaming comms
ive met rupal
Have you heard their comms lmao
Unlike merit who soj ults TWICE on kingās row and doesnāt get a single kill
i played with rupal lol
Everyone just yelling monkey monkey monkey
Haha your only point to merit being bad seems to be you watched him play a few maps of sojourn and didnt get many overclock kills
he knows wht ddalpee means
like you watch his performance today and still want to glaze quartz just cause he stands out in a worse region than korea
every level is lower
Not what I said but itās clear what youāre doing. Youāre actually trying to gaslight me into making a point I didnāt just so you feel like you won an argument. Grow up
Someone playing well doesnāt translate to āhey heās better than that other guyā mf what?
Ohā¦I see what youāre doing
Ragebaiting
Lol
emea winning finals
twice
The only thing youve said Twice is that merit cannot sojourn ult = quartz is better
emea lose just from team gap not dps gap
Btw guys. If someone says āI like ice creamā doesnāt mean they hate hot food
lol the inaugural mvp himself Jjonak is celebrating falcons w
Someone people are just stupid
Tobi buddy i am repeating back to you your own messages
and you are saying you dont mean it
Thatās not what I said
Holy shit
Either actually read properly or just donāt
Wtf
Aaaaand Iām falling for your rage baiting again
Ggs
you said this about merit not getting overclock kills
and then you said this
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so that is your evidence
and I will present my evidence for merit being better than quartz
- dominates the hardest region in the world (korea > emea)
- won overwatch league
- joined falcons and won midseason championship
- made grand finals in 2024 esports world cup with toronto
and you think because merit has bad overclocks quartz is better!!!! good job buddy!!!!
- first ever player to hit a soj OC triple kill in 1 shot in OWL
Bro thinks team achievements are him being better but pop off king
Keep going
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Bro thinks bad overclock means youre dogshit for life
let me clarify this argument
šš»
prime merit>>>>>prime quartz
rn
quartz >>>>>merit
Itās funny talking to this guy. He keeps bringing up things I didnāt say
yall be happy now
you said it twice
Bro is studying lol
unfortunately i cant post screenshots but i replied to both messages

imma go eat dinner
Sheee I have to at this point. Heās basically arguing with himself by replying to points that werenāt made in order to āwinā idk itās weird but but how else will I understand something so smooth brained
Ade seojun mealgaru and maka and someone rlse i forgot
I wished if the argument was āin-personā it would be next level
WHY ISNT MEALGARU ON BALL
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why are u clowning me šµ
We are not referencing āITā
bro has not seen prime merit
Iād call the police cuz they do be sounding hella weird. Maybe inappropriately weird. He sounds like the type of person go assault you
Cuz you know
They imagine things often
nvm he hasnt even seen a single owl game
lol it will still be ācontentā
Yes i want to assault you right now
To watch
so bad
i respect ur opinion 
Merit shows up when it matters (money on the line)
Iād get my ass beaten itās not funny
I have seen merit on mayham
So badly*
Nah itās for the ratings
WHAT RATINGS? Whoās even watching!?
And also Iām like Chris McLean from Total Drama Island
So⦠Iām enjoying from the sidelines
Yes
Iām not even getting paid for that
Nah
The issue is tabi you havent presented any evidence for your claim that quartz is better, the ONLY thing youve said is merits overclocks are worse than quartz so I can only take that as your singular piece of evidence
while i have presented 5 points
Merit is stable on a team of bright spots. Quartz is a bright spot on a stable team.
Do yall think the S tier tourneys for OWCS deserves to be like $4mil+ one day
I really want to believe you but i cannot as you havent said anything substantial
nah
ik Merit isnāt always as flashy as quartz but heās equally as impactful
well sad well clarified š
Merit isnāt as consistent and thatās his biggest issue but heās just lucky heās always on stacked teams cuz heās a deal package with someone. Many games have been won despite merit unlike Quartz who always performs despite his team. If you canāt understand the truth than you are genuinely riding too hard
The simpliest way to think about it is if two players both shine and dominate in diferent regions but one region is stronger than the other which player must be better?
I would say the player in the harder region
Thatās all I say cuz I shall not waste any more time on delulu people
Iām too good
Merit showed up at EWC last year. He matched Quartz very closely at times. Thatās nothing to scoff at.
okay tobi no more talking please then
Dont waste your time anymore
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Idk how people though Ow1 was competitive at all. A cass could just walk around a hot spot and tap heads without anyone caring
Merit didnāt play tm
But merit did play tm when heās on TD and quartz literally rolled his shit
last year Toronto did, no?
Owl gameplay looks like a clown show compared to now
He did on tornoto and got hard diffed
Merit literally got rolled by Quartz on TD. Heās just lucky his team is better
