esports-discussion

[mental vine]

SOMEONE

[dim egret]

What does emea stand for again

[split flume]

if falcons actually win it all

imma laugh so hard

[dim egret]

Europe Middle East Africa?

[robust patio]

europe middle east afrixa

ye

[dim egret]

Ah thanks

[robust patio]

they havent won a single finals for 2 years

[torn gale]

falcons W

[robust patio]

if falc beats alqad then the 2 years continue

[wise orbit]

alqad vs falcons grand final

alqad winning it all

[mental vine]

SOMEONE AURA

PROPER AURA

[dim egret]

Low-key so tired of this 💔

[robust patio]

tm vs t1 now

[torn gale]

i think the winner is obvious i fear

[robust patio]

my friend dying his hair was hilarious

[wise orbit]

i think it'll be close

probably tm win

[torn gale]

idk t1 looks promising

we’ll see

[wise orbit]

you think?

looked pretty shit to me icl LOL

[robust patio]

back when my friend was a cutie

[mental vine]

wait..... why does t1's key get crushed

arent they third place tho?

match

[robust patio]

every team gets crushed except 1st

[wise orbit]

they're not in competition for first place anymore

and it would be weird if you crushed both keys after the third place match lol

[worn falcon]

what the hell? they were flexing gold? LOL

[robust patio]

imma sleep and wake up to alq beating falc maybe idk

imma predict 4-3 falc

or 3-4 alqad

[weary scarab]

i hope they dont play hanbin

[robust patio]

its gonne be a shame if emea doesnt win on their meta

[silent pike]

When is the finals

[robust patio]

aftee t1 tm

[silent pike]

falcons vs thingy

?

[weary scarab]

why is there even a third place game

[grave python]

Thrower1

[robust patio]

tm vs t1 game first

[silent pike]

Yes

Who else is in the finals

The one that beat tm

[robust patio]

money

alqad

[robust patio]

its emea vs korea

[mental vine]

i think falcons have edge because their match ended earlier than al qad and have enough energy to recharge for the grand finals

[silent pike]

Is the third place match soon

[robust patio]

emea vs kr

[worn falcon]

its basically almost all 3 saudi teams

1 kr

[grave python]

10 minutes I think

[robust patio]

falc is a korean team

SOMEONE

AHAHAHBA

NO WAY HE SAID THAY IN COMMS

inma msg him 💀 💀 💀

[mental vine]

LOL

[pure bramble]

WAT I MISS

[sullen berry]

Danny: Excuse me, but how many monitors are there in this room?
The Room:

[worn falcon]

Needs more monitors

[pure bramble]

strongest Saudi team

[weary scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/saudi-arabia-ksa-السعودية-mrbeep-scream-if-you-love-gif-3731456030895109458

[glass sleet]

There’s a few for sure

[glass sleet]

There are 7 Saudi players in top 3 teams. And 13 Koreans

[pure bramble]

wait I did not know that Lip fw Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo

[glass sleet]

They had sex?

[weary scarab]

lol

[glass sleet]

[pure bramble]

?????

[glass sleet]

[weary scarab]

sabrina carpenter gotta be one of the most annoying people

[pure bramble]

Lip has some of her songs on a spotify playlist

[glass sleet]

I can’t say I find her annoying cuz people gonna call me a hater

[pure bramble]

i mean you can say what you want about her personality

but dam she go hard

[glass sleet]

I hate when people say “I fw” instead of “I like” “I love” “I enjoy” “I appreciate”

Proper English

Using fuk for everything is wild

[pure bramble]

you don’t fw it?

[glass sleet]

I don’t unfortunately

[pure bramble]

unlucky

[glass sleet]

Gappy

I’m afraid

[pure bramble]

i used to not like Olivia Rodrigo

but then I heard vampire

and now I like her

[fathom ridge]

T1 winning

[shrewd flicker]

Whats this match for

[fathom ridge]

3rd

[shrewd flicker]

3rd place or wht

Quartz is the goat

Quartz > lip.

[fathom ridge]

idk man

i just hate tm

[pure bramble]

put Quartz on Tracer

[weary scarab]

dont look like it

[shrewd flicker]

If youbi learns tracer better tm would be the goat team

[fathom ridge]

donghak needs to just save overwatch

[shrewd flicker]

Checkmate just too goood

[weary scarab]

gap

[shrewd flicker]

Holy quartz

Goat

[fathom ridge]

no like

u already won the fight

why r u solo pushing

LIKEEEE

WTF

how is he already back

[pure bramble]

T1 so nonchalant

[fathom ridge]

T1 GOAT

[minor robin]

this female casters voice pmo

[fathom ridge]

DONGHAK AINT GETTING THAT PAYCHECK JUST YET

[minor robin]

she sounds like a forced anime voice

[fathom ridge]

thought it was the venture va

[weary scarab]

lol

[mental vine]

zest = best venture?

[minor robin]

jeremy87>

[weary scarab]

quartz is just gapping them

[shrewd flicker]

Donghak go doom

[pure bramble]

idk they kinda fumbled last point

[weary scarab]

lmao

[minor robin]

and these dumbass sponsors

like why do we need a pop up that says "stc overtime"

[fathom ridge]

dong playing the game finally

[minor robin]

ik its bc they paid for it

but like

[fathom ridge]

zest is just the best venture ever

[shrewd flicker]

Proper.

[mental vine]

zest = best venture in the world?

[minor robin]

jeremy87>

[fathom ridge]

is proper doing that every fight

[minor robin]

wow t1 win

goat t1

[shrewd flicker]

Proper gapped him already dumbass

[fathom ridge]

HOW DO WE WIN TS

WE THROW FIRST HALF

like wp

[shrewd flicker]

Like propers the resson t1 is fighting for 3rd 😭

[minor robin]

donghak thanos

[fathom ridge]

DONG GOAT

EZ

[weary scarab]

first ban map pick

[fathom ridge]

NONCHALANT.

[pure bramble]

ikr

[mental vine]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[pure bramble]

T1 just so chill

[mental vine]

T1

[mental vine]

XD

[minor robin]

@shrewd flicker is ts glaze or what

[humble token]

Sym ban gone now

[weary scarab]

just ban venture and tm win

otp

[shrewd flicker]

Aura

R u old enough for t2 yet

[minor robin]

kinda crazy how opressive the EU meta is rn and these korean teams are still matching it on far worse comps / beating them

[minor robin]

no

[weary scarab]

emea is 2:0 korea rn

[pliant raptor]

lol the double reverse

[pure bramble]

I almost have all the drops

[pliant raptor]

turning it around after getting it to 80+

[cosmic socket]

yoo falcons lost to t1

[shrewd flicker]

They won

[cosmic socket]

ohhhhh

[shrewd flicker]

This is for 3rd

[cosmic socket]

this is third place match

[shrewd flicker]

Proper needs to win ts

[minor robin]

2:0?

[cosmic socket]

i'm so out of it

[shrewd flicker]

Is falcons after rhis

[minor robin]

they beat cr yea

whats the other team

u talking abt ag al?

[weary scarab]

vp 3:0 agg, tm 3:2 cr

[silent pike]

Is third place match on rn

[minor robin]

idrc abt either vp or agg so i didnt watch that one

[cosmic socket]

i feel like western teams are just better at bans and the draft

[pliant raptor]

yes

youbi saving ult for ow3 🥀

[sullen berry]

yeah

[silent pike]

What’s score

I can’t watch

[cosmic socket]

1-0

[silent pike]

At work

[cosmic socket]

t1 up

[silent pike]

fuck

dw tm will win

[pliant raptor]

theyre on circuit now

[fathom ridge]

ty proud

[cosmic socket]

t1 used the sym ban early

[minor robin]

10 months from now

11*

donghak learn to hold arms

and u win

[cosmic socket]

when you make it big don't forget to forget all your day 1s ❤️‍🩹

[fathom ridge]

did this guy just say theyre bing chilling rn

[minor robin]

yes

[fathom ridge]

just fire him

[pliant raptor]

tm has a lot of time on the board rn

[fathom ridge]

skewed just playing like he's in an edit

[minor robin]

its just a map theyre very good on tbf

[shrewd flicker]

Pop

Loo

[cosmic socket]

im so sick of seeing ramattra

[pliant raptor]

donghak back on ram

[pliant raptor]

yea

[pure bramble]

it’s so boring

[pliant raptor]

ram just doesnt die

[minor robin]

u dont enjoy watching ppl hold arms?

[pliant raptor]

idk if i like the illari ngl

[cosmic socket]

bring back the good old fashioned honest orisa mirror

[minor robin]

the illari is good

[fathom ridge]

like jusy a broken hero

[minor robin]

ram isnt honest ow

💔

[shrewd flicker]

Calling proud a mild nuisance when he gets 3 is crazy work

[fathom ridge]

i feel like we lowkey full hpld here

[shrewd flicker]

Whoswe

[pure bramble]

hold block simulator

[minor robin]

bro thinks hes on the team

tm probably cap w 10-50 seconds

thats usually what happens

[fathom ridge]

ty zest

[fathom ridge]

0s

dps carrying

[shrewd flicker]

Zest = tanos

[pure bramble]

Zest on top of things

[fathom ridge]

the fans are apart of the team.

[minor robin]

i mean im not a fan of the eu teams so hopefully

[shrewd flicker]

Proud wtf

[fathom ridge]

tm just corny

[mental vine]

PROUD BEST FREJA

[shrewd flicker]

Closee to demon than human

[pliant raptor]

high noon and death laser to sun and bola

[cosmic socket]

proud best freja

after kronik

[minor robin]

yea kronik is like insane

[fathom ridge]

PROUD

HIT THE SHOT.

WHAT IS HAPPENING.

[minor robin]

ubelo was right

[shrewd flicker]

Poud land a shot

[minor robin]

0s

[shrewd flicker]

Zydra.

[minor robin]

no

[cosmic socket]

t1 putting up a fight

[pliant raptor]

if t1 loses here what map do yall think they go

[minor robin]

dive oriented

lol

[pliant raptor]

whats the next mode

[fathom ridge]

get off lw

skewed

skewed pls

[minor robin]

either push or flash

i dont remember

[shrewd flicker]

Trust the line up

[cosmic socket]

tm full capped but this is like the tm map

[shrewd flicker]

Freja above the roof

[minor robin]

if its flashpoint t1 goes aatlis if its push they prob go runasapi

maybe colo

sym is so aids on this first corner omg

[fathom ridge]

dong rebirthed for double xp

[minor robin]

dong dick

[pliant raptor]

ooooof no ults on t1

gonna be a bit rough

[weary scarab]

no neutral pick and its over

[minor robin]

u just take a fast swing and try to force an ult

oh welp

[shrewd flicker]

Dong go doom

[pliant raptor]

best doom 🗣️

[brisk leaf]

Guys why is whenever symmetra banned, the other team always respond with kiriko ban

[weary scarab]

full held

[fathom ridge]

like gg

[weary scarab]

unfortunate

[shrewd flicker]

Donghak what are we doing

[minor robin]

depends on map

[cosmic socket]

^

[shrewd flicker]

Icl horrible meta for kr teams

[fathom ridge]

idk circuit just evil

[brisk leaf]

But nearly always it’s kiriko ban why

[fathom ridge]

cant do shit

[shrewd flicker]

Ana brig is trash

Winston is mid

[cosmic socket]

sym op

[stray quarry]

they playing like it 2023

[shrewd flicker]

And best fdps isnt tra

[stray quarry]

Japanese soldier still fighting 49 years after WWII

[shrewd flicker]

Falcons win vs al qad though

Just cuz proper venture

And venture is good vs symm

[weary scarab]

qadsiah got 2 pharah players

[cosmic socket]

gonna have to deal with youbi glaze until stockholm 💔💔💔

[weary scarab]

free counterswap

[humble token]

Qad wins easy

[shrewd flicker]

Mer1t..

[brisk leaf]

@shrewd flicker how come kiriko is always banned when symmetra gets first banned

[weary scarab]

whats merit gun do

[shrewd flicker]

Hes the best hs in the world

[weary scarab]

proper theo only one that can do something

[shrewd flicker]

Idk

[pure bramble]

Falcons better dog walk Qad

[shrewd flicker]

Im fine with both winnin

But i think falcons will win

Proper just too good at ven

[minor robin]

sym is really only banned against eu teams cuz thats what the top eu teams do, eu teams can only play brawl, so if the sym is banned away from them, then their opponent probably either wants to force dive or force a more rush type comp (which has kiri lu backline) so its kinda just the best ban for an eu team

[shrewd flicker]

Pharah also just rlly bad

[weary scarab]

no

[shrewd flicker]

Ye

Against freja its unplayable

[humble token]

Some maps u can play pharah to counter venture

[pure bramble]

i think Quartz probably would’ve had a better time against Merit

idk about lbbd

[shrewd flicker]

Ye its map dependent obv

But proper is flexible

[weary scarab]

merit has been washed this whole stage

[pure bramble]

why we lying

Merit is cracked

[shrewd flicker]

Hes in the finals 😭

If he was shit he wouldnt be there

[weary scarab]

hes getting carried by proper

[pure bramble]

he’s putting in just as much

[weary scarab]

they dropped to lcq for a reason

[minor robin]

mer1t is 10x better than u and me combined, and is better than majority of the EWC dps players

[shrewd flicker]

Proper is better but merit is still insane

[shrewd flicker]

And theyre in finals for a reason 😭

[pure bramble]

and they haven’t lost a single game

[minor robin]

cuz all of their players are fossils, they had to deal with like 3 of them retiring/leaving

[shrewd flicker]

Im arab too bro but im not gna be delusional

[weary scarab]

almost lost to geekay, almost lost to china

[humble token]

Lbbd7 is not bad

[pliant raptor]

donghak on mauga pve 🥀

[pure bramble]

but neither is Merit

[shrewd flicker]

Im fine with both teams winning but falcons will probably win

[humble token]

Geekay would have won if they didnt pick trash maps

[weary scarab]

he havent played good compared to other players this stage

[minor robin]

cuffa just played like shit on colo

thats why geekay lost

[pure bramble]

played good against proud and lethal

[shrewd flicker]

@fathom ridge

Dong doom

[pure bramble]

Merit and Proper both put in the work for Blizzard World

[fathom ridge]

im about to shower.

dong is so passionate

[minor robin]

is fastro thanos

champ 2 on asia servers

[weary scarab]

ole ole ole ole

[shrewd flicker]

He got 3-0.

[fathom ridge]

i beat ml7 today

champ soon

[glass sleet]

I feel bad for T1

[minor robin]

that means u deserve champ probably

[glass sleet]

NOW he decides to play orisa

After he lost

[humble token]

I feel bad for donghak

Hope al qad can do the beating instead

[minor robin]

why arent they on moira

it works in my gold games

[glass sleet]

can someone explain to me why TM likes banning kiriko?

I genuinely don’t understand that ban choice

[minor robin]

idek why theyre on kiriko when they could go moira

[wise orbit]

saving ball ban for aatlis very smart

[humble token]

Tbh idk either ig cuz bap slower place

Pace

[glass sleet]

Because they like winning?

[wise orbit]

orisa just gets shit on into these sym comps no

especially into teams like tm and alqad

[minor robin]

i have a 70% winrate on moira

so idk

i think its good for winning

[glass sleet]

He kept getting bullied in the orisa matchup

He only went orisa cuz of the doom and cass was banned

Third place gets way more money but still, everyone is demotivated.

[wise orbit]

im just over here jorking my shit to donghak doom

the dongfist

quratz?

who are these bluds in the crowd dont even know the players names

[glass sleet]

Quratz

my favorite dbs player

[wise orbit]

lolol

Quratz on tob

[minor robin]

I think pge is the best dps player ever

[wise orbit]

valid

[minor robin]

Flats probably for tank

and maybe aspen or frogger for support

[wise orbit]

him or g4h

[minor robin]

no def flats

[wise orbit]

g4h is close

he's next up i think

[minor robin]

flats prime > any korean tank

[wise orbit]

just wait

g4h will save na

[minor robin]

im gonna be on a team with gamin4hope next year in owcs

[worn falcon]

No way tm wins 3rd

[glass sleet]

Tbh guys

[wise orbit]

they're literally just alqad with less flexibility and quartz

[pure bramble]

if gaming4hope ever reaches the level where we’re saying that

[wise orbit]

this was always very winnable for them

[pure bramble]

I’m leaving NA

[minor robin]

imagine alq with quartz

would be thanos

[glass sleet]

Everyone keeps saying tm are better than CR but I genuinely think CR would’ve won if they didn’t lose

[wise orbit]

would be insane

[pure bramble]

nobody was saying that ever

[wise orbit]

the only reason tm and alqad were close was because quartz just killed 3 every fight lol

[minor robin]

the only ppl saying this are die hard saudi fans

[glass sleet]

So they would’ve still lost if they won?

[fathom ridge]

the ragebait just

phenomenal

[pure bramble]

bad bait nobody would even think that

[glass sleet]

TM are better than CR in ram meta

Cope

[minor robin]

no shit

[pure bramble]

CR and TM in the same tier? yea sure

[minor robin]

😭

[glass sleet]

You’re so dumb. Did you even read what I said at first?

[silent pike]

Isn’t junker queen really bad rn

Oh nvm

[wise orbit]

not ram meta just sym meta

[weary scarab]

nah. tm is a tier or 2 above them in this meta

[wise orbit]

sym is hard carrying emea TBH

[desert fractal]

who wins between wad and flc

qad*

[glass sleet]

Apparently it’s not a “no shit”

[minor robin]

ram is very very good still

[glass sleet]

Some people here love raccoons

[pure bramble]

this is the truth

[wise orbit]

yes but its not because of ram that emea is winning

[minor robin]

yea ik

its sym

[glass sleet]

GENJI

WOW

[minor robin]

when sym ram are bad EU is irrelevant

[glass sleet]

HAZARD GENJI

LEGS GO

[minor robin]

unfortuante truth nuke

[pure bramble]

I’m a fan of this truth nuke

[weary scarab]

only good na team is the one with 3 europeans.

😉

[wise orbit]

not wrong

[minor robin]

who brought up NA

[glass sleet]

He winking

[weary scarab]

me

[wise orbit]

and only 1 na player lul

[minor robin]

i wasnt talking abt NA

at all

😭

[weary scarab]

but i am

[pure bramble]

we not talkin NA

[glass sleet]

He was talking about na

Why can’t he talk about na tho?

[humble token]

Complaning about meta means your bad unfortunate truth bomb

[glass sleet]

Freedom of speech

[pure bramble]

Youbi fraud

[wise orbit]

let bro talk abt na

[weary scarab]

shit on eu while all the na teams got in quarters

[glass sleet]

Talk about na all you want

[weary scarab]

lol

[minor robin]

yeah and the NA team isnt even good either

?? 😭

[pure bramble]

hasn’t this happened to EMEA more times

[glass sleet]

Tbh both NA and EU only have one team that gets 3rd

Only TD ever gotten second

[wise orbit]

if were talking owcs its only stockholm i think

[pure bramble]

didn’t they get knocked out first last EWC

[glass sleet]

Yeah cuz ssg got third in Dallas

[pure bramble]

EMEA

[glass sleet]

Eu ssg not na

[wise orbit]

yes but like na just had a super team

[minor robin]

he can idrc his message came off as like a come back since i think he assumed i was saying that in support of NA

[wise orbit]

eu teams in general did better

but toronto was just thanos

[glass sleet]

NA had someone merit. That’s cheating. We were carried by one na team

[pure bramble]

NRG smoked ENCE in Stockholm too

[glass sleet]

I see

[wise orbit]

yea stockholm was a massacre i agree

[fathom ridge]

whats the score

[minor robin]

tm 2 -1 t1

[glass sleet]

Because we had masaa and no coach

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/uchiha-sasuke-sasuke-uchiha-sasuke-sad-sad-stan-twitter-gif-13178480509571400353

[glass sleet]

I keep saying we with every region

[pure bramble]

SSG got knocked into lower bracket by NTMR 2-0

[glass sleet]

We are the best region (kr)

[pure bramble]

ENCE got beat down by TD

NRG cleaned them up

[glass sleet]

Everyone did. Like I said we had someone merit

[fathom ridge]

SSG getting a wholeass bundle but not making it to the actual tourney

wp

[pure bramble]

but to discount NTMR and NRG??

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-sad-raining-anime-naruto-gif-16559227

[glass sleet]

I HATE THE SKINS

THE COLORS ARE WRONG

[glass sleet]

When?

Are we talking about EWC?

[wise orbit]

everyone knows stockholm was the worst lan for eu in overwatch history

[shrewd flicker]

@balmy wolf

what happened to na LOL

fkn dogs

[pure bramble]

oh you talking EWC

[glass sleet]

I mean TM did good even tho the seed bs put them in 5th. We all know they would’ve rolled NRG

everyone said that

[minor robin]

nrg have never been in EWC so probably not

[glass sleet]

Because it was 3-2 TD v TM and TD rolled the shit out of NRG

[glass sleet]

Hmmmmm

Nrg had one decent performance in LANs tho

[pure bramble]

weren’t TM playing a lotta Mauga?

[glass sleet]

The meta yes

But Quartz was insane

[pure bramble]

feel like the queen comp woulda worked into that

[minor robin]

ewc 2024 meta was mauga reaper echo/sym

[glass sleet]

Y’all remember the 128 meter comeback

[wise orbit]

ok but this is the difference between 5-6th and 4th place

eu still did very poorly

[pliant raptor]

might be over for t1

[minor robin]

prob

[glass sleet]

It wouldn’t into a better team. NTMR were idiots mirroring

[glass sleet]

It was just the bracket. Tm would’ve beat nrg. Everyone was agreeing at the time.

Tm almost beating TD means something

[pure bramble]

nah NRG would have upset

[glass sleet]

Lol

Not when they got fuked by TD

[wise orbit]

yes but then they would have played td in the lower bracket semifinal

[glass sleet]

The easiest 3-0

[wise orbit]

so like i said

[pure bramble]

TD had a good counter comp for their strat

[wise orbit]

this is the difference between 5-6th and 4th place

[pure bramble]

I don’t think TM would have played it

[wise orbit]

its not that big

[glass sleet]

Cuz falcons put them there after going 2-1 😭

[wise orbit]

im just saying its not that big of a deal

[glass sleet]

It is

[wise orbit]

either way they either get knocked out in the quarter or semifinal

[glass sleet]

I’m insulted they would even suggest na is better than Quartz

[pure bramble]

oh yes that’s right

TM is just Quartz

[glass sleet]

Lol

[pure bramble]

and a bunch of bums

[glass sleet]

Quartz and his friends

Quartz and the rest

[minor robin]

quartz is very good

[wise orbit]

this tourney has been so insane

[pure bramble]

TVNT notorious Mauga god

[wise orbit]

so many map 5 bangers

[minor robin]

TVNT has no hands

[glass sleet]

Glazing EWC!?

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-19075727

[wise orbit]

I like ewc

only thing i dont like is single bracket

[glass sleet]

Caught red handed

[pure bramble]

really holds it back

[pure bramble]

no no he would never be beat by NA

[weary scarab]

single bracket is better

[wise orbit]

and sometimes the crowd can be a bit weird like booing the loser interview, but they've also been insane this tourney

[weary scarab]

second chances is just garbage

[glass sleet]

The games only been fun cuz it’s single elim. Upset bracket games are boring. OWCS should change to single elim. Makes every game so intense.

[pure bramble]

it’s not just second chances

it allows for other teams to meet in the bracket for more match ups

[glass sleet]

We’ve seen enough

[wise orbit]

I thought you said you didnt care either way

[minor robin]

AJAX

[pliant raptor]

its joever

[glass sleet]

After today, I’ve decided it’s better. The superior form.

[silent pike]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[pure bramble]

this third place match boring asf

[wise orbit]

yea this is what i would have liked to see to

[minor robin]

yea

[weary scarab]

3:0 emea vs korea

[silent pike]

QUARTZZZ

[wise orbit]

like how vp matches up against na teams

[mental vine]

its 3:1 actually

[wise orbit]

that would have been interesting to see

[glass sleet]

THIRD PLACE YAY

[pure bramble]

I would’ve liked that too

[glass sleet]

YAYA

😭

[weary scarab]

i mean matches wise. emea have beaten 3 korean teams

[glass sleet]

👏🏻

Best third team in the world

[pure bramble]

if owcs was single bracket ts would’ve been boring asf

[glass sleet]

Is third place like 500 points?

[minor robin]

yea

[glass sleet]

Thanks

[pure bramble]

can we get to the good match

[static pond]

Damn what happened to t1

[minor robin]

true

[glass sleet]

They met the second best team

[static pond]

Did t1 play a horrible comp or were they just worse team?

[glass sleet]

Can TM even compete with EWC championship?

[weary scarab]

korea have only beat na team and other fraud regions

[static pond]

Grand finals next now

[glass sleet]

Yes

[mental vine]

astro only saying that bc sym is emea's only preferred meta

[glass sleet]

First grand finals with no CR

[minor robin]

meta heros are EU heropools rn

[wise orbit]

imagine if tm was on the lower side of the bracket

alqad vs tm grand final

[pure bramble]

could’ve had a comeback

but comebacks are inferior

[glass sleet]

Bro who the fuk is that? Since when is it not soe? Legit first time seeing that person after 4 days

[mental vine]

well that can change quite a bit

[fathom ridge]

THAT IS NOT ZEST LOL

[glass sleet]

That’s dongoat

He’s so crushed

[wise orbit]

non chalant sigma donghak

[glass sleet]

Guys but T1 skin to support them

[minor robin]

well yea kr is the best region, but its an EU meta so

[pure bramble]

T1 skins are clean

[glass sleet]

So clean

[pure bramble]

i think they’re some of the best

[weary scarab]

da gap is getting smaller

[minor robin]

i agree

[pure bramble]

NA getting up there too

[glass sleet]

Na is ass

Outside of the eu na team

Geekay

[wise orbit]

btw these are the most sold partner team bundles

[glass sleet]

Yeah that’s why I said Japanese fans are crazy

[fathom ridge]

ssg #5

LOL

[pure bramble]

can’t be nice about anything huh

[glass sleet]

I’m critical cuz I care

[pearl harness]

How did Crazy Racoons lose at EWC? LMAO

[weary scarab]

idk how they managed to fuck up the teams skins this bad

all the team skins look like garbage

[glass sleet]

I’m genuinely very disappointed with the skins

[minor robin]

they couldve made genuinely cool skins too, but its just recolors

[pure bramble]

that’s not being critical that’s just talking shit

[weary scarab]

and only skins for 3 heroes after like 8 months

[glass sleet]

They’re only for 3 heroes and the colors are just wrong

Ssg who should be yellow is gold and geng that should be gold is yellow…wtf

[glass sleet]

Na is ass tho….

[weary scarab]

and ik they can make em cool too look at the owl skins. all they had to do was actually detail them

[glass sleet]

🥺

[pure bramble]

then so is EMEA

[wise orbit]

donghak the beacon of change

[fathom ridge]

happy birthday rak.

[glass sleet]

Emea is in grand finals tho 🥺

[pure bramble]

under very special circumstances

[fathom ridge]

is the 60k for the org or???

[minor robin]

literally only bc sym ram

[glass sleet]

“They’re just good and they won”

[glass sleet]

Cope

[pure bramble]

Sym meta single elim

[fathom ridge]

bro 400k grand prize???

[minor robin]

its not cope, its just true

[weary scarab]

sym became a global owcs meta cuz the other regions noticed they got rolled in scrims by eu

[fathom ridge]

how much are these players getting paid???

[glass sleet]

At least emea have a comp they’re best at. Na is mid at everything

🥺

[pure bramble]

This why nobody like them

[wise orbit]

right lol

they just try to play what the koreans play but they are too shit

[minor robin]

usually in LANS its kr > na > eu, but when the meta is very cringe brawl its kr and eu > na

[pure bramble]

NA team beating CR on dive tho >>>

[glass sleet]

And then they swap to brawl and lose too

[wise orbit]

yep

[glass sleet]

Europeans beat CR

[wise orbit]

except at stockholm ig

[weary scarab]

sym meta is high skill

sym meta just requires more coordination

[pure bramble]

on boring cheese comp

[weary scarab]

which eu is good at

[pure bramble]

be fr

[glass sleet]

Omg you know what I just realized?

Emea is better at brawl AND dive than NA. 🥺

[sullen ridge]

Is it just me or are the drops bugged? I got everything on Twitch but in game I only got the loot box and the battlepass tier skip but not any of the skins?

[minor robin]

this has to be rage bait

brawl yea

[glass sleet]

Yo

[weary scarab]

the only thing stopped eu from being good at dive is the tanks.

[glass sleet]

3 kr slots, 3 emea slots

[wise orbit]

vp and alqad lowkey beat every na team on haz comps

[weary scarab]

all they have to do is import a good korean

[glass sleet]

I totally agree cuz that’s just a fact and I agree with facts

[wise orbit]

w only facts, facts dont care about your feelings

[glass sleet]

Lol

HAHDBEJDXHWBW

[humble token]

Also better at dva

[wise orbit]

yea

[fathom ridge]

EVERYJUAN VENTURE

[glass sleet]

They’re coming guys

[wise orbit]

dva and haz dive eu is better 100%

[glass sleet]

Lol

LOL

[wise orbit]

na probably better at winston and ball dive

[glass sleet]

“I swear they don’t deserve ligang actually”

Aura

[pure bramble]

who got shit on in Stockholm on their own meta

[glass sleet]

I’m Na wdym? We did great

[minor robin]

the koreans shat on everyone tbf

[glass sleet]

China 2 slots

[minor robin]

na still did better than eu tho

[glass sleet]

3 big regions all get 3 slots

[fathom ridge]

whats the prize pool even

[wise orbit]

idk

prolly like 500k

[minor robin]

i dont think its released yet

[minor robin]

probably

[glass sleet]

Guys T1 would’ve won if they didn’t just lose to falcons and mentally boom

[fathom ridge]

400k for this is crazy tho

that doesnt even cover player salaries

[glass sleet]

For Stockholm? 50$

[minor robin]

owcs players make 2k a month

[glass sleet]

And a gift card for mvp

[minor robin]

😭

[fathom ridge]

where are they even getting the money

[minor robin]

the teams pay a fee to partner into OWCS

[weary scarab]

orgs

[glass sleet]

Some live for free so they keep all that 2k$

[minor robin]

and OWCS pays the teams w sponsorships/skins etc and orgs

[glass sleet]

Fun fact

[wise orbit]

not bad for playing video games for a living and having free housing

[glass sleet]

If alqad wins first, they get 400k$. If falcons win, they get 450k$

[minor robin]

yea

jafonso award

[glass sleet]

True

And you get extra money if you win more

[wise orbit]

ye

[minor robin]

not much

[glass sleet]

Depends. CR are rich

Shiiiioot

Shu got 50k for being EWC mvp

[minor robin]

well yea theyre the best team in OWCS history and are a massive company in japan

[weary scarab]

i cant lie falcons basically got a free final.

played no strong teams

[wise orbit]

I think bigger teams like cr could probably be earning at least like an average salary

[glass sleet]

I know it’s an extreme example but others still make on top of the “2k$”

[pure bramble]

i bought fifteen dollar chocolate and it was not worth it

[glass sleet]

Like if you keep winning your region or getting top 2

[minor robin]

yes ik its not much tho

for example

[wise orbit]

t1 was lowkey overrated going into this

[glass sleet]

And some players play in Saudi eleague so more money

[minor robin]

vegas liquipedia says hes made 100k in earnings hes told me hes only seen 25k of it cuz org takes a lot of the money, and taxes etc

[static pond]

T1 gen g cr falcons and zeta are rich as far as ik

[glass sleet]

Yeah but he also pays for housing so he’s he isn’t getting all of it.

[pure bramble]

i paid thirty dollars for two packs of chocolate and it sucks

fml

[minor robin]

he doesnt

[glass sleet]

He does

He’s on TL

[minor robin]

he told me that when he played for toronto defiant

[glass sleet]

They chip in for their housing

[static pond]

Only reason gen g is eu prob for a partnership slot plus I think they got a free facility

[glass sleet]

They also had housing

[minor robin]

td paid for their housing

[weary scarab]

the average salary at falcons is 38k per month global esports wise

[minor robin]

i have no clue if TL make their players pay for housing

[wise orbit]

they seem to have facilities based in riyadh

[minor robin]

TD didnt tho

[glass sleet]

Also not everyone pays tax

[static pond]

Ye ewc made them

[glass sleet]

They said it

So

[wise orbit]

even before

[minor robin]

so then they do

[wise orbit]

gen.g players at least the koreans lived in saudi

[glass sleet]

Geng definitely has one since last year

[minor robin]

so hes probably seeing more of his winnings but still

[wise orbit]

during stage 1 and 2

[glass sleet]

That’s why I think pros should stream. To make more money

[minor robin]

unless youre on a top KR team you arent really making enough money to be what is ideal in life

[minor robin]

pge is an amazing example

doesnt need to play pro anymore cuz he makes way more from streaming

[static pond]

It was a thing with ewc I believe they made them for the parther orgs

[glass sleet]

Yeah streamers make more

And less work

[minor robin]

yea

[static pond]

Streaming is kinda dead in kr now lol

[minor robin]

thats why majority of t1 players stream just like ranked games lol

[static pond]

Twitch ain’t working

[glass sleet]

I think proper lost weight

He achieved his goal

[static pond]

He did

[glass sleet]

They don’t stream on twitch

[minor robin]

twitch banned in kr

[weary scarab]

why

[minor robin]

no clue

[glass sleet]

Yeah so what do you know about them streaming?

[static pond]

The rate were high

[wise orbit]

how long do u guys think ewc will last

[static pond]

Just to operate there

[weary scarab]

i didnt think thaty korea was that controlled

[minor robin]

oh apparently its not banned its just that twitch has like shut down in korea

[glass sleet]

With all their sponsors and monkey they’re making, 2 years

This is the last year

[minor robin]

Twitch to shut down in South Korea due to high costs

On February 27th, 2024 KST, the Twitch business in Korea will shut down. Leading up to this date, there are a few key milestones before the shutdown in Korea ...

[wise orbit]

surely they are not turning a profit from this event

[pure bramble]

for however long the oil keeps pouring

[static pond]

Ye

[glass sleet]

I bet you they do

[weary scarab]

look at their sponsors

[minor robin]

they arent

[pure bramble]

even if they weren’t I don’t think that’s why they do it

[glass sleet]

KSA is making money out of all their investments

[quasi summit]

did it start yet?

[static pond]

It take a while but they don’t pay a big fee for hosting

[glass sleet]

KSA made 137 billion last year off their non oil businesses

[weary scarab]

they are sponsored by amazon and one of the biggest oil companies

[pure bramble]

I’m sure the Saudi government has other reasons for hosting a video game world cup

[silent pike]

This is cool

[weary scarab]

they are diversifying their gdp

[static pond]

Surly to showcase there esports region players

[minor robin]

and how much do you think theyre making off the books with oil

[sick spindle]

Korea fall off is unheard off

[pure bramble]

riiiiight

[glass sleet]

Amazon, Pepsi, Crunchyroll, stc, quddiya, aramco, and others I can’t remember

[sick spindle]

I be thinking how much money does Saudi ACTUALLY make

[static pond]

Sony

[fathom ridge]

why tf they got the drums out

[weary scarab]

its mainly to invest in as many things as posible to turn away from oil and be less reliant on it. and gain attention for tourism

[glass sleet]

Wdym off the books? It’s not a secret lol

[fathom ridge]

is it BO5

[glass sleet]

Yeah!

Big sponsors

Especially Crunchyroll

[weary scarab]

first to 4

[static pond]

Sony owns cruchyroll

[minor robin]

every country has secret business that isnt disclosed

[static pond]

And evo

[sick spindle]

No he means how much money does you think their making without documenting it/ telling the world

[static pond]

Sony supports esports tho

[fathom ridge]

we getting a map 7

[wise orbit]

yea grand final is always bo7

[static pond]

I think fantic

Has the sponsorship

[glass sleet]

I said 137 billion from their tourism shit. So they still have their oil profits too that aren’t a secret.

I just don’t know the number

Cuz the guy that talks to flags didn’t mention that

[sick spindle]

Is tourism big in Saudi?

[minor robin]

dubai

[glass sleet]

Idk.

[minor robin]

thats pretty much it

[static pond]

Dubai

[pure bramble]

I can’t imagine going anywhere else

[static pond]

A lot do lot of social media people go there

[wise orbit]

someone u dont got aura bru

[minor robin]

cuz there arent taxes

[pure bramble]

lotta rich people do too right?

[glass sleet]

They made 137 billion off of tourism last year so idk. You do the math.

[static pond]

It also cuz apparently other stuff too

[glass sleet]

B-but but he does the suiiii

[silent pike]

I hope falcons gets pummelled

[sick spindle]

That’s the documented amount must be like much more

Every country has undisclosed earnings

[minor robin]

where are u finding this

[glass sleet]

Westerns gonna always hate but Saudi is actually a popular tourist destination

[static pond]

Just don’t wanna mention it lol since it a sensitive topic

[weary scarab]

its one of the best countries to live in if your rich

[glass sleet]

I watched that reel about the guy that talks to different country flags and KSA flag said so

[wise orbit]

LETS GO ALQAD!!!

[pure bramble]

kinda like Monaco right

[weary scarab]

but pretty bad if your poor

[sick spindle]

Korea fall off is crazy

[weary scarab]

and your not citizen

[minor robin]

i dont think ive literally met anyone who has said they wanna go to saudi arabia and if they have it was to dubai

[pure bramble]

where the rich people love it cause no taxes and stuff

[glass sleet]

Where are you from?

[sick spindle]

Btw how come on zeta division alphayi is playing Supp

[wise orbit]

ye same

[minor robin]

florida

[pure bramble]

there’s gotta be a hundred other places I rather go

[wise orbit]

i know people who have been to dubai

[minor robin]

yea

[wise orbit]

no one ive met have been to saudi

[sick spindle]

Dubai is pretty much it imo

[weary scarab]

qatar and uae is way better if u wanna visit

[wise orbit]

ye

[weary scarab]

saudi arabia is way mor estrict

[glass sleet]

Makes sense. We Americans will never hear about it cuz our news channels tell us that you’ll die if you go

[pure bramble]

oh they have F1 over there too right

[glass sleet]

Buuuuut

[minor robin]

??

[weary scarab]

yeah in qatar

[pure bramble]

where did you hear that

[minor robin]

in saudi arabia ??

[glass sleet]

People also don’t live in USA

[minor robin]

wtf

[sick spindle]

Where u hearing this

[minor robin]

like what

[glass sleet]

Mate

[pure bramble]

yea wait doesn’t Saudi host a lotta sports stuff

[minor robin]

what news outlet has said that

[wise orbit]

you'll die?? lol

[minor robin]

u will die

[glass sleet]

Yeah

[sick spindle]

Yeah they do

[minor robin]

if u go to saudi

[glass sleet]

You don’t think people go?

[pure bramble]

that probably explains a lotta tourism

[glass sleet]

Some people genuinely believe that

[wise orbit]

maybe if u kiss dudes in the middle of riyadh or something

[sick spindle]

Think their trying to hold the World Cup in 2030 or something

[glass sleet]

Not even

[minor robin]

what american says mate

[glass sleet]

You’ll get kicked out maybe lol

[pure bramble]

why?

[glass sleet]

A lot but don’t worry. None of the ones around you. There are 300 million Americans you could live not hearing that

[pure bramble]

is it illegal over there?

[sick spindle]

How much revenue does a country bring in from a World Cup anyway

[weary scarab]

for high ranking people in saudi. police dont care. they can do whatever they want

[minor robin]

yea

[minor robin]

you usually lose money actually

[sick spindle]

Being gay is illegal in most Muslim countries

[minor robin]

not even joking

[sick spindle]

Dead ass?

[minor robin]

yea

[pure bramble]

that’s not very cool

[sick spindle]

ain’t no way

[weary scarab]

lbbda pharah?

[glass sleet]

Being gay isn’t illegal. Doing gay shit is

[minor robin]

olympics are having a harder time finding a country to host now a days bc

[weary scarab]

LBBDA PHARAH

[sick spindle]

That’s what I meant sorry

[pure bramble]

that’s still not cool

[minor robin]

the cost to build a stadium that big is so much that it out weights the cost of the tourism it brings, and then the stadium isnt used again afterwards @sick spindle

[glass sleet]

LBBD7 ON PHARAH!?

ITS BEEN YEARS

[sick spindle]

So when Qatar held the World Cup your saying they didn’t acc make any money?

[wise orbit]

LBBD7 PHARAH

YO

[minor robin]

so its just destroyed again after

[wise orbit]

ok not a great first showing lolol

[sick spindle]

they said they were going to repurpose it into a shopping mall or sum shi

[weary scarab]

ziyad trolled there

[fathom ridge]

WTF is happening

[glass sleet]

It’s used for other stuff after EWC too

Anyway

Let’s enjoy the game

[fathom ridge]

falcons just win

[minor robin]

im not talking abt ewc

at all

[wise orbit]

is someone the goat ram I feel like he always gets so much value

[minor robin]

😭

[glass sleet]

Oh my bad

I’m not paying attention

[fathom ridge]

i get that we're saudi

but get off phara

[weary scarab]

why they not playing their usual studf

[minor robin]

bro

lbbd

LOL

[sick spindle]

They trolling?

[static pond]

This I think there was county that turn it into a mall tho and host games there

[wise orbit]

bro if korea wins ewc ill be so mad

[fathom ridge]

someone just carrying

[pure bramble]

they chilling

diff

[silent pike]

Erm

[fathom ridge]

WTF

[sick spindle]

Wtffff

[pure bramble]

lbbd ducking merit?

[weary scarab]

why he so high lol

he aint got a mercy

[wise orbit]

lbbda is washed on pharah

[silent pike]

It’s just gonna be 4-0 haha

I can sense it

[fathom ridge]

no like we just have someone and proper

[weary scarab]

why is he even on pharah. they lit ban ventue

[glass sleet]

This win is super important for falcons. They need it to EWC championship

[fathom ridge]

like go sym

[pure bramble]

Checkmate getting bodied

[weary scarab]

finally normal shit

[wise orbit]

sym ty

[grave python]

Soj ty

I'm not a fan of pharah pick

[fathom ridge]

WTF IS THAT TP

[glass sleet]

They decided falcons is the best team to try pharah on

[pure bramble]

who said Merit was washed

[glass sleet]

I did

[weary scarab]

me

[glass sleet]

Actually i said he’s mid

Lip, Quartz, stalker, proud all better

[pure bramble]

not as washed as lbbd apparently

[fathom ridge]

like we're just playing building into ram????

WTF

[grave python]

I don't get it

Wtf

[weary scarab]

give grandfinals to tm

al qad too scared

[pure bramble]

real ones knew this would happen

[silent pike]

Why are they playing dva

Someone please explain

[fathom ridge]

they are so much better LMAOO

LOLLL