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CR allergic to the good heroes this meta
Lip on frega
didn't they get 1st place in ewc 2024 which was mauga meta..
it's just sad not to see him do what we know he can
Mauga meta was just grounded dive
remember that wack ass sym reaper meta
Even spilo said so
Whatever spilo says is law
He was just lip should have played soj or mccree
that's what frustrates me so much about the series
He was mostly missing and hitting hit markers
No but since you kept using “understanding the game” as an argument. There you go, someone who understands the game
it's in the past
i just hope HeeSang walks away with his legs in tact
i lowkey felt bad for him during that interview
Wdym
Ngl it was coaching issue
he does understand the game pretty well, and if you asked him I think he'd tell you dive is harder to pull off effectively
I don't understand how someone can genuinely defend that dive isn't the most skillful type of comp in the game
Moon has gotta be pissed about that
He is
moon is making all of cr have nothing but ice soup as punishment
He legit said he had to walk out the room when ntmr beat them
mauga comps do play somewhat similarly to dive, at least with staging and stuff
Imagine this lol
it have to be very annoying to play against the al qad and tm comp tbh
Nah I’m sure he’s chill
like i would be pissed
at least they made it up in the rematch with the stop
they COMPLETELY out of it
eis hazard I assume
Ye but it way worse now
w crosshair
if I was a top kr team coach I'd lose my shit after seeing that
ngl
lbbda
Yeah but you’re also not really mentally mature from what you’ve been saying lately
CR really frauded out
Tm is coachless
kr coaches are also just more mean I don't think u know this
LOL
🥶
There not mean
How else are you gonna get paid
they're more prone to flaming is what I mean
They criticize there players cuz they make
Mistakes that they shouldt
like they will call out something extremely dumb and criticize u a lot for it
which is good
that's how u improve
i just imagine coach Moon looking like Fletcher from whiplash rn
This isn’t a Korea only thing if you lose games you shouldn’t you are gonna get an earful later
Tbh moon prob left
oh yeah fs
"Not my tempo heesang"
It’s just any competitive sport traditionally or esport
from my experience w coaches tho, those w kr experience or who are korean are just a lot more harsh
idk i feel like he should've said something about it then
The phara could have been a coach thing
Korean coaches in esports at least have a high expectation
cause Colosseo should've been enough proof
Nah lip is known for picking bad characters like 76
that freja didn't work
Yes I know that but he’s been known or at least people been calling him “dad coach”
But whatever
i think Shu and Chorong played good
ziyad not dying there is just not ok
they were kinda holding it together at some points
Moon?
Wait does this mean eu gurentee finals
yea
it'll be some eu team vs falcons or t1
probably t1
so close
Falcons sucks
finals is probably al qad vs t1
Moon is a dad coach mostly cuz he gives advice a lot to the players such
jesus christ
ziyad ur not junbin blud
eis is next up
if ziyad touched thay
i gave eis a lotta shit on thursday but i kinda like him on this VP roster
eis is great he just makes random dumb mistakes sometimes
that neutral is huge for alqad
TM fans and seicoe are frying me on twitter now😔
that shot
W tm fans
요즘 다들 더워서 예의나 싸가지를 한겹씩 벗고다니시는건지
해도 될말 안해도 될말이나 일기장에 발사할 말인지 개인 sns에 발사할 말인지 팬디코에 해야하는 말인지 장소를 가리는 그런게 없네
mo actually
if any EMEA team wins GF i want it to be VP
LOL
Apparently there saying a lot of harsh words
the koreans or the saudis
Koreans I think
dam
It lip server
he didnt even play bad
Ya but they shouldt have lost but lip forcing frega prob got under people skin a lot
Yes
i think they freya was good on blizzard world atleast
got huge value against the sym
Finally playing the new NJC
Ya but second point he wast doing much
that lbbda highlight
lbbds so good
It didt help shu was doing the thumbs down
do vp still have sym ban
i think so
yeah they would
having to win two maps without sym ban will be tough
checkmate is also not youbi
he insane on other heroes
they got no diva ban left too
that map was vps best scenario without sym ban
yea VP not lookin great rn
why is ziyad so good at everything
What team does fate play for ?
Tbh cr prob fills like shit
Feels*
Just a reminder CR are out in quarter finals
Time to wait to see what they tweet im curious to see what they say
CR shouldn't take this too badly
they made mistakes
but the skill of each player is still rarely matched
if they lost on like gibraltar winston mirror i'd get it
fmcl
if t1 knocks out falcons emea winning finals 100%
is it over?
yep
3-0?
now its just slop until tm alqad tomorrow
ye
Geekay vs t1 gonna be intresting
Guys
QAD v VP wasn’t even close?
I didn’t watch it
😱
No way
The Japanese fans go crazy!
Top two orgs are Japanese
strange, i don't remember this being announced today https://www.twitch.tv/ow_esports/clip/WiseIgnorantFiddleheadsFailFish-FfXpjRNb-Z6cRSXH
ball otp vs ball otp
Is infekted a ball otp?
ye
I just thought he was a wannabe
Also first time seeing busan
this is his hero pool
So he’s mid on everyone if not bad?
yes.
yes
convincing 2-0 busan
Games have been very competitive this tournament
I think na just has the wrong philosophy playing against koreans
Weird. He plays with wired mouse
Mirror the dive?
they will always be worse than koreans in the mirror
I mean
Ntmr did beat cr on dive and then ntmr beat Fnatic on dive last EWC.
It can happen but I agree
the only NA team that beats koreans is 2019-2020 sf shock lmfao
Still. I like seeing teams mirror the Koreans. Aura
let alone.... 2019 world cup if yall forgot
IN OWCS CHINA. I don’t want you to say I’m glazing EWC again 
ig but the aura is always ruined by their pathetic performance
they can beat emea on dive but not korea
at least not like top 3 korea
Would TL beat weibo on dive?
not dive no
but I think they could beat them on a regular rush comp
they would be like equal
First map was kinda close on dive so I think so far it’s not terrible
actually
EMEA and NA can't beat Weibo on dive
if ball is really good they could do it
Weibo surprising me on brawl ngl
Winston is bad just because it's a brawl meta ?
Let’s go fleta
no winston is just bad in general
ah
hazard and ball outmatch him
My beautiful model
in dive comps
I'm not surprised he has shitty perks and other tanks got buffed
his perks are fine it's just that everything thats good against him has been buffed, ana has been nerfed and yea winston has been nerfed
and freja
is in the game
Yeah but I'm still not a big fan of his perks
Why even play monkey if you can just constantly be cancer on ball?
Good point but I suck at Ball 😞
winston dives were really deadly in hangzhou
Learn him
But right now I really miss Rein meta
Stockholm will be heavy rein meta
I hope
We'll see if they'll give Rein better perks in s18
They gut every other tank so everyone has to go rein
And even in s19 since Stockholm is in s19
Donghak would try rein too
It didn't work
He has
He just played rein to take the first corner. He got what he wanted then went dva
Bring Hadi back on TM and he would have slammed them
TM were the worse they’ve even been with hadi on
Yeah he didn't do great in Stage 1
Proud is cooking on freja but isn’t Cassidy better for that comp?
He’s not isolated and lives longer
Idk
i wish they have the slow motion sounds in our servers replays
that would be so good
well lets be honest proud = best freja
no fucking way
doomfist donghakkkk
This is the type of shit Junbin can’t do
somone take rupals ring
My got donghak
give it to vigi
its T1 ofc they do
at this rate im buying t1 gear over cr
I’m hearing both but mostly T1
Can’t blame them
T1 are goated
whos gonna buy t1 gear over cr? LMFAO
LOL infekted PISSED
You should. T1 looks way better
i do after their performance here
me but im biased
and also because of faker
Donghak
Alright I guess lol
plus T1 biggest org is now a Saudi Sponsor
true
faker is mine everyone loves faker
the Red Sea thingy ye
WHAT
he is basically the kim yuna of esports
Faker signed with T1 till 2029
i will say in League i choose GenG because i didnt want to bandwagon
faker = the queen yuna/son heung min of esports
WHAT
WHAT HAPPENED
plus Dynasty Parent company
TM won
falcons better
Nice
" you dont need a coach when you hae Youbi " apparently
I support that decision
Man I feel like the colors are off a bit. I’m disappointed
basicaly
what happened
Quartz went freaky
ow2 needs someone like faker in the t1 team
Apparently
if faker cant come to ow
yeah apparently
Quartz had his coffee
someone has to be like faker in t1 ow xD
yeahh quartz is the goat idk
liquid got the worst emotes bruh
the closest one is either Smurf Lip or Violet
and lowkey t1 the only south korean organization here
first tree dabbing now whatever zeruhh just did
Smurf is the only player with 3 Titles
Tr33 is trying to be their Quartz but the goat donghak (who’s better than Junbin) ain’t letting him
anyway TL reverse sweep
i think im leaning towards smurf
3x champion
smurf goat
By here you mean EWC?
if were going by titles alone its Smurf but by domination and as a player alone its Either Lip or Violet
I’m sad geng suck balls
smurf = faker with titles
In Valorant T1 and GenG are my two teams
what the hell
smurf has 60% of faker's titles
Smurf and faker. What cool names
i mean its the closest unless we get someone to get more than 3
falcons would never shit themselves like this
SMURF HAS 60% of FAKER's TITLES
lmfao
they could but prob not
lol
and that means something
he is the true GOAT
imagine naming urself as "SMURF" and win
lol
lol
thats like saying sticking a middle finger to the world
Hey don’t blame CR cuz they can’t play anything outside of dive! That’s not their fault. I mean sure weibo who’s supposedly a dive otp did way better on brawl than CR but that still doesn’t mean it’s CR’s fault, ok? They’re just not good this meta.
He Smurfs every other pro’s peak
if were going just by world titles, but i think if were going by all titles alone i think Lip or any 2020-2022 Shanghai player has it
We were till you said that
Super carried smurf
loool SMURF THE UNDISPUTED OW GOAT
if we are being honest
nah smurf carried super
super would NEVER get 3x champion titles
the funny thing is if you take away the world championship trophies Shanghai has the most Trophies
I wasn’t around for super tbf but I’m a Smurf glazer
shame that super had to retire
yeah no smurf is way better then super
could have kept that "aura" u speak of
Had?
he wanted tbf
should have stayed to keep that "aura"
had? supers aura was so strong he had to retire to protect smurfs goat status
If you take away all the trophies CR won, falcons have more.
still....
a shame
lol
super barely even playedd in their second ring didnt he
like he was benched the whole time
loool
choi took the spotlight
lmfao
cuz he chill
Guys it’s gonna be a falcons T1 semi finals right?
heck i missed chb
like great rein player but that was kinda it
choihb is a legend
i think
It’s not fair. He was playing rein when it was super easy
i missed choihyobin so much
Nah TM
but he still did it the best
thats my goat
Tm when they run into a team that can play more then dive
i dont think easily
They win still
they put in max to try to mirror them bnut they got held first point lol
also T1 is stomping TL so hard
STOP PLAYING MAX
OH MY GODDD
😭
T1 have not lost a map this entire tourney
T1 will lose to falcons
maybe
this is a fucking ranked game
T1 had the easiest group
by them vs falcons should be good
what the fuck is tree doing
gg
rip
t111111
Gg T1
GG
na is so fucking free
cap
If I had money, I would’ve gotten the T1 skins
cap
3-0 by falcons too you think?
ye
I hope so
t1 lets goooo
kay but like
unless gk remember they took down cr in hangzhou
gotta be dongers
maybe Dong
this is the first lan where EMEA aren’t knocked out first after Stockholm and China no?
The first since last major…?
What
first genuine good emea showing at a lan
Na is out
maybe emea isnt entirely useless
they got knocked out first in Stockholm didn’t they
i think?
Sybau
still worst region but atleast they have 1 good showing now
ikr
they needed it
they just needed the meta to favor them
exactly
everything had to go their way ye
thats all it took
yeah no ilios hurts these korean teams bad
just for them to get stomped by t1 or falcons😢
wait hol up
they'll take a map or 2 maybe
EMEA got knocked out first last EWC too

nah
no shot
falcons can actually play things other then dive
its a heavy maybe and we'll leave it at that
bad meta for everyone but emea 
i sleep
i mean its a bad meta for t1 as well
gn
if dive was meta liquid is still getting curb stomped
ts gonna be boring
I thought TM lasted a bit longer
t1 and falcons is gonna be fire
So CR has no excuse omg I agree
and whoever they stomp in the gf will not be as good
moon used cass and sym bans too early and with no thought that's the excuse ❗️❗️❗️❗️
Their excuse is that they made a mistake…? 
no match against Sugarbron
indeed
TM lucky sugarbron isnt here
i didn't say it was a good one
I don’t remember Stockholm tbh. Only the winner lol
fax
ssg
SSG wasn't able to be top 3
toronto come back pls pls pls 😭🙏😭🙏
shit was good for NA
zeta would never lose to tm
Remind me again of like the highlights or something
NRG stomping out ENCE was magical
zeta> tm
BRO
truth nuke
or
I’m actually shocked zeta sold the second most skins
zeta > cr
Mauga meta
i mean
Zeta!
oops
Mfs bust out queen
They’ve been to ONE major
this is a bernar meta indeed
free bernar
Erm?
bum ass team
truth
did man just Say Fleta set the meta at Seoul Dynasty ???
i miss my NRG
Oh when NRG played JQ?
bernar is the goat and the rest of his team is there too ig
everything down hill since they dropped viol2t ❗️❗️❗️
PEAK
Toronto top 2 finish last year beating zeta was so goated
and goofy
Wasn’t the order of the teams ssg, ence ntmr TM? Like they lost in that order?
Reaper Echo like wat
and we live with the sad fact it was probably only cause falcons was on other side of bracket 
TM and AL Qad lucky the dark lord pge retired
Oh I remember. It’s when Tm Had a crazy performance but still got 5th cuz of seeding bs
the GF was so sad
a wins a win
truth
or a 2nd place is a second place
Stalker was unanswered
they still had tot beat zeta
who was clearly better then every other non korean team going into it
Stalk3r was tearing up HeeSang
He was actually out of this world. Mvp 10000% deserved
its a shame when u think of echo u don't think of stalk3r 
Get use to it cuz TM moving to OWCS KR and getting first every stage
when i think of echo i think of how trash that hero is
tm is never winning another series again
😔
that shit was ridiculous
yeah GK is getting swept
which series had that wack ass ten ult fight on New Junk City
If grand finale is TM v FLC then tm wins cuz merit gonna have ptsd
I dont know who i want to win less between tm and Al Qad
from what?
tbf they do
From Quartz
t1 had to play a worse version of themselves
cr had to beat the best sym team in the tourney
Merit was just as flashy in that matchup last EWC
Cr doesnt have an excuse even if the meta was bad for them
Nah Quartz was had gapping him
PROPER AURA
god falcons are SO COOL
JUST PROPER AURA
idk Quartz was kinda quiet in a lot of maps
liquid is essentially a trash version of t1
what a braindead excuse
So would t1 lose against TM
literally said "im gonna show you why im the best dps in the world"
tm is the best sym team in the world
yes
Oh
Merit was getting picks before the fights even started
that’s funny
Hopefully
Emea need the perfect meta and theyre still gonna lose horribly to t1 or falcons
I don’t want ALQAD to win
i could be okay with AlQad winning
t1 is on paper a slightly worse cr, but cr really shit the bed with their comps
so if t1 show up they could win tbf
not falcons
being slightly worse that CR is still like top tier
yea but tm beat cr
Falcons win if they have hanbin
but some of cr's comp choices were questionable so idk
why isnt pge on a team
too good
They just played what they could
wdym
if T1 don’t forget that they’re good, then they’ll probably be good
isnt cr worse then t1 at the comps that are rlly good rn
They kept playing dive cuz brawl wasn’t working for them.
yes but
They got full held and panicked I think
ive said this again and again
Proud is god tier
they tried to make monkey work
bro cr just be doing shit
Junball put Quartz in a locker
deadass
all T1 have to do is play seriously
Ofc
colosseo is a decent ball map wdym
For a great ball player I agree
all t1 has to do is not throw the fuck outta the games like cr does
Junbin knows he’s not the goat donghak
im not saying tm isnt crazy good but some comp choices were questionable
cr has a pretty good ball player i think
and now you're not being serious at all
CR have dominated on colosseo with ball in the past
i swear i see cr play ball on that map all the time
idk why they didn’t wanna play it
what did they play instead
Yeah I get it
what happened that made them so uncomfortable with playing ball on that map
Dude I kept telling you I believe donghak is better. I’m serious about that part
fine if u think he's better but to say junbin isn't even comparable is just crazy talk
you said colosseo is good if the ball player is great
and then say junbin knows hes not donghak
i think even if Donghak is better
Junbin is the goat

because hes pretty much as good if not better
Yeah I know
what did they play on colasseoeooo
He’s not better but good enough to play ball there ofc. Maybe he didn’t scrim it
Junbin having one of the most consistent teams backing him up should make up for it
I think donghak might be better than junbin
i hope not

also donghak almost being diffed by infekted on the first submap of the match lowkey brings donghak stocks down
T1 are a powerhouse
i didnt really watch any other map
what happened after that feller
idk i didnt watch
Watch yourself
did they ball mirror again
donghak goated out

Infekted got scared off it
No
also they stomped colessaeo with ball
yea but it wasnt a mirror right
junbin would have dominated that busan submap
just saying
donghak masterclass soon
First point only was a ball mirror but infekted went ball again for second point clutch then went back to ram
second best tank itg
why isnt pge on a team
i mean we all know bernar is the goat
Cuz he would have shu on Ana nading the hell out of anyone
he would probably rather be a content creator
And everyone
and if he did play pro he would be on like a shitter team like dhillducks probably lol
GUYS
actually
no he just wanted to be a content creator
THE CROWD
eh he'd have maka on t1
close enuff
THE CROWD BUFF IS IMMENSE
geekay you are so fucked
Vigilante and saying close enough? I’ll take that
oh my godd
AGG
Geekay will make NA great again
ironic that players outside north america for geekay is original NTMR
falcons wins in 3? or does falcons win in 2 and gk forefits after the 2nd match
Dude saying Ana Maka just gave me flashbacks to Toronto when he was perma flanking lol
yea
so he retired?\
if you think about it
isnt gk the team that beat cr
Geekay is the definition of America
yes
melting pot of cultures
geekay is the definition of eu LOL
it's a melting pot
Guys
ohh
When I think of Saudis, I imagine falcons’ roster
ur so right
we bring cultures together
what
so that they can go above and beyond
To combine them into no culture
they based in saudi
yeah but theyre all korean

i mean its a saudi org
yeah but
but its a korean team
but they based in saudi
Lol
best saudi team is just seven koreans
yeah but its a korean team
Nvm guys apparently this isn’t funny
yea
Noted
it was
yeah cut that shit out im gonna get mad
bro just doesn't get it
no joke
Thank you
this guy gets it
I’m sorry creamy

ill forgive you this time
yo creamy don't hurt me
You’re so kind
just dont give me a reason.......

admiral is so tuff 🥹
I think geekay can win since they played al qad close
TL played CR close and they got stomped
UV masterclass coming
lowkey I think they got a chance
UV
more of a chance than liquid at least
UUUUUUVVVVVIIII
let's go NA
TL almost beating cr was more of a cr classic shiting themselves
And no way al qad are worse than tm
KQHOWN UQNDBKWNJCMQJXNQXJNW
tm are gonna beat al qad
alqad and tm is always really close
TM working so hard just to lose to another emea team
cmon NA needs one win today
On saudi legue tm has gotten win against them
Yeah it’s that close
i fear it's not happening
i got faith
maybe at stockholm
not their meta
I want my Hanbin!
but when the going gets tough
na fell off
and the tough get going
trust stockholm is dive meta and we see weibo cr grands 
all they have left is sugarbron
anything but this meta
It’s was monkey meta and they still didn’t make it to finals
this shit is awful
zeruhh would've killed that ashe lowkey
ram is the most boring tank ever
cause they lost to cr and falcons
but like china brawl was good just not as good
stockholm gonna be hard dive
lowkey, vp is like liquid/geekay lvl and tm and alqad are just tiers above any other team in the west rn
trust
someone>cuffa?? no wayyyyyyyy whattttt
Yeah I agree
crazy hot take
Ngl Cuffa had a few moments where he was hard inting yesterday
cuffa is a bum
geekay is saudi org no
i think so
No
ok im looking it up
LIAR
It’s 🇦🇪
fuck no matter what happens there’s gonna be a Saudi org
youre on thin ice pal
liquipedia says saudi
they are Saudi org
go t1 cause they arent saudi
Really?
T1 our last hope
yeah ive seen enough
yea na is done
falcons are sweeping
Who told me the owner is Indian from uae
As a European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.
As a European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.
only took the right meta the right map pool the right format
does merit have a freja on him
he always has
Falcons winning everything
Merit cracked
💀
light work no reaction
FALCONS AT THEIR HIGHEST PEAK
is ts really the team that beat cr
thanks to proper
proper deadlift
i wonder why would they EVER bench this guy
i just realized
the coaches are trolling us
why the fuck did gk walk out on cass????
This is bad
cass or soj idk if it matters that much
this is so ugly
doesnt really make or break ur comp
Geekay lock in
Atp
HOLYYYYY
Geekay should take to a dive map
u jinxed it smh
Ok geekay
They needed to warm up
wow who would’ve thought
bro discovered how disc works
proper goat pick
god ram mirrors are just so fucking cool!!!!!!!!!!!
whatttttt
proper diffed
not my goat
Huge clutch by the broken ult
Ok geekay is locked in
fair ult
already exceeded expectations
As you wish
gk reggie miller emote is so hard
dam y’all really doubted them like that
1 point win they already exceeded expectations
PROPER DIFF
WAI
GK
GEEKAY
LETS GOO
see
falcons threw when they had easy win
its over
Lol
falcons ult usage was awful
Holy
if they just didn't use kitsu and saved after chiyo died
wtf
Damn
yeah idk what the hell that was
like a 3v5 and they kitsuned
Falcons suck 2
korea is collapsing
T1 might be there last hope
T1 WOULD NEVER
FR
zeta wouldve already beat geekay
ong
falcons robbery of zeta
It’s great seeing western teams punch up.
If falcons don’t deserve to be here than zeta definitely doesn’t. Geekay beats Zeta
hanbin comes in and they don't drop and map rest of series trust ❗️❗️❗️
zeta wins in 2
Zeta didn’t get a single map from falcons
bernar would beat geekay by himself
im not ready for life without bernar
rest of zeta is just there
Someone on orisa, so disappointing.
chiyo is going nuts
I haven’t played ow in 5 weeks. I come back and my first game (or second) I get shamed for playing ram
as you should
