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He is the best
you not ranking seeker above Kronik
I think tr33 lethal kronik
that whole SSG v NTMR game was them tryna target ban Kronik
tree and kronik are equal in my mind
Because he hasn’t done shit on widow
seeker isnt in the tourney
and seeker getting whipped anyway
Seeker a fraud
put Seeker on Supernova
put rokit there too
The youbi glaze is crazy
put Rokit in prison
ryan for rokit
send Rokit to the gulag
Youbi payed him to say that lol
U dont need a coach when you have youbi
chill on him youbi gonna dock his pay unless he glazes
Don’t be stupid. He threatened to lower his salary if he didn’t say that.
^
ooh right i forgot that
look at those pearly yellows
Lep on Aatlis tho
Hey don’t make fun of kronik’s teeth
yeah def talking about kronik
Respect for Rokit for showing respect and glazing Quartz
BOOOO
Rokit was media trained
at least he’s a good sport
GET TS GUY OFF THE STAGE BOOO
Lol Isak stfu
Rokit made me sad but at least he’s a good sport
2 NA teams
the doom was fun to watch
I didn’t think ntmr would win any games so winning 3-1 against tm yesterday is an upgrade
Junbin seeing tm struggling against Doom 👁️ 👅 👁️
Just this
No
Doom and widow was nice Ngl
First time playing doom
yeah it was a fun map
worked pretty well into the sym
that is what i meant about random booing btw
Kronik took over for a bit
like that was just distasteful
booing after they've lost and saying nice thing about their team
i hope this ntmr roster improves a lot
Tbh you don’t boo a guy who’s saying good things about you or your team seriously
“BOOOO HES SAYING NICE THINGS”
Maybe they don’t understand English lol
like booing at all when the loser is being interviewed is just weird
Sorry I mean American
call me soft but like
You’re soft
Yall think theres chance for a korean upset?
Only if they’re being salty or having bad sportsmanship but otherwise don’t boo a guy that just lost
Assholes
tl beats t1
Fuk the fans
this their first lan too
It’s not fair for TM
but tbf this crowd has been crazy even in the non saudi games
they did pretty good all things considered
which is really cool
going 1-1 against TM on their first lan in a sym meta is pretty good I’d say
Last year ow was kinda empty which was sad but glad they have a crowd now lol
Ewc prize pools pretty decent
And so many people are non Saudis too
ye lol
maybe it’s cope but I think Sign did alright
Everyone having a great time
Hell yeah
last year it was almost completely empty when falcons or tm didnt play i think
They did. They did better than alright
now u still heard a lot of noise even in the wbg vp game
We weren’t expecting them to win a game
Chinese fans were definitely there cheering
Which I love
Rlly not against guatos
they technically did better than AGG
What
Sign and Varrel exceeded Expectations
I’m talking about sign beating tm yesterday
speaking of that agg and weibo's coaches need to be fired for their awful map decisions
Agg without whoru is not the same
unofortunately they got stomped at the end
true
Even day 1 had great series
Weibo easy win
i now have to begrudgingly admit that there’s a chance of an EMEA upset
i assumed VP would go far i just thought WBG would end up winning
as much as I hate it. I think EMEA might actually do something crazy
TopD speaks JAPANESE
if weibo had a competent coach they prolly would have won 
😱
Cope
all emea teams made it through groups
VP beating weibo
fffffuck
Their coach wasnt bad tbh
mucho better
Its not hard to be better then last major
their coach didn't go gib v emea and banned horse on circuit when guxue was losing ram mirror all series 
would double elim work better for teams like TM?
Tm usually performs way better during their lower bracket run
this is also a meta that looks great for Qad
wish ewc was double elim
Vp can just ban out ana or winston
Yeah but it’s hard to decide that when you’re winning ram mirrors against falcons
- protect ban by banning haz 2. they either ban lucio or ana can't do both
Nah
if we had double elim we could see western teams battle it out in losers bracket
im still hopeful NA might make the series competitive
Factual FACT
ig but emea is famously inflexible at dive so 
Huh
this isnt NA’s meta but at least they aren’t getting dominated completely
Hazard is and diva are considered dive a bit and VP beat weibo map 1 on hazard mirror
Dva does exist
u think their winning the winston dva mu v guxue????
But i see your point
right
You have 4 days of ow wtf do you want you greedy fuk.
Double elim is always better imo

its not about the volume
no chances at some juicy rematches
I want to see how the western teams match up against each other
like I would want to see vp vs liquid, alqad vs geekay etc
Also guxue got cooked instanlty on winston so maybe he wasnt feeling it
also vestola got railed the one time he pulled out the dva v them so
What winton dive? Lol there won’t be a winton dive cuz of ban system. If they go gib to play monkey than VP can either ban monkey or kiriko depending on what weibo picks. You don’t want that as weibo. Or you can even ban Lucio cuz mew sucks on brig. It’s not a game weibo wants to play
It’s about the quality and these two days have been full of top quality games
Day 1 had 3 great series
Alqad did play geekay…
oh my bad
it's better then taking them esper and preventing them from going circuit later 😭 also they just protect ban by banning haz but ic ur point 
Same but kinda unfair in ow since the upper bracket Winner doesent get 2and life on finals
that would probably be closer as well than the current quarter finals
I don't see how you could argue against double elim it's just better in our esports
Yea true
I honestly hope they do 16 more but have fighting game style losers brackets
No…I’m saying they CANT protect ban the monkey comp cuz it’ll be missing a crucial part of the comp.
tobi u dont have to glaze everything about ewc
double elim for ow esports is just better
No time. That’s literally why
ana brig is fine no? mew lowke was fine on brig during champ clash
How am I glazing? Saying the games were fun is me glazing EWC?
Ana ban, lucio kiri bit worse
Didn’t know EWC invented ow my bad
the play offs will be played during 2 days, just like china
they prefer lucio kiri it would be better for them
u just seem to be very happy about everything ewc related lol
It doesn’t work for them. Clearly something isn’t working for them cuz mmonk one of the best anas imo hasn’t played Ana in forever.
They invented hero ban
i dont necessarily disagree with u but like ive never seen u be unhappy about anything at all
I’m sorry
Ah i didnt know that ig
But I’m an unhappy person…
Name one thing
ic ur point but sill thinking the esper pick was ass 
double elim not being a thing here is obviously lame
That’s not double elim cuz I wouldn’t mind that either
hero bans, double elim
What!? I’m against hero bans?
crowd decorum
what are you talking about
im saying you defend everything about ewc
and ur not always wrong
but no double elim is obviously lame asf
They have had previous wins on espranca that prob why
Yeah I asked to name something bad I defended
But I’m not for one of those
ye but gib is just better for them imo and prevents a circuit pick later from virtus but i digress 
I’d take either
If you think it’s better than fuk EWC for not having double elim
Fuking assholes
I never liked EWC anyway
I would prefer dubbel elim in ewc just for more games
But tbh the group stages make up for it
There is no group stage in normal owcs
You know what double elims do?
They provide CR another chance to kill you after beating them in upper bracket
And also more teams have a chance to prove themselves
True
If it was a single elim, NTMR would’ve gotten second or even first
But I think both are fine
Double or single elim. SORRY ISAK FOR THINKING SO.
I like ewc more just for the amount of teams aspect
Still no zeta

Zeta division is cooked
Well Zeta are chockers anyway
Didn’t they get third last EWC?
and provide western teams the opportunity to play against each other after they've been beat by whatever korean team they're matched up against
which is fun for western fans
Ye but lost to toronto cuz violet funny
Sure fair point. That’s why I am not against either
Violet always funny
I think double elim is clearly better for ow esports considering korea is so much better than the west
but we'll agree to disagree
Tbf they don’t seem to be “so much better” this tournament. They look beatable
Like even TL almost beat CR
we always say this
We do
They lost a round last time
We always say theyll lose
And then cr falcons are top 2 again
You guys think falcons reach grand finals?
I like that there's more then just 1 team in each region that feels like theyre doing good
Honestly
80% yes but theres a geniune chance they dont
tl beats t1 and falcons beat them
Even in their current ram meta?
I think CR pull some bullshit dive comp out their ass and win yet again
Falcons preforms better when they can flex to weird brawl comps
thats why junbins here ye
someone is one of the best ram players in the world
You never know with them huh. They always look so sketchy and then somehow, they’re in grand finals.
Clutchbins here
this is his dream meta
So is hanbin. He has even won trophies off CR during ram comps
I’m genuinely surprised that hanbin isn’t being played in a freaking ram meta
Thats why im kinda just
Unsure honestly
Theyre really inconsistent rn
hanbin here for emergencies/when cr take them to gib and they need him to go dva
True
Who knows honestly
I think CR would ban dva if they take falcons to gib. Cuz cr would love to have someone of hanbin on hazard cuz they both suck at him
let someone have his fun
they were never gonna win the whole thing without stalk3r
I like the stalker glaze
its not even glaze if it's true
So far. Seems everyone has a chance to win
someone mirrors the monkey 
I think CR would also like that
Someone ain’t Smurf
Or hanbin
Hanbin has won more maps on monkey than someone has since he joined falcons and someone has played more games on monkey
I’m not even joking
i deny the truth
See y’all tomorrow I guess. Take care.
have falcons even played hanbin yet
no
atleast my top 8 made it out of groups
Because he’s the ram goat? He won Asia last year playing ram comps
why is it cropped out
This doesnt read as funny when i remember last lan
hit hard when all na teams got kicked from dallas
As a European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.
wait
who played today
wait is group stage over??
wait weibo is ass
actually can only play dive
They went to map 5 with falcons not playing a lick of dive
They realized last second that they can't play orisa
oooh
lol
if shy just swaps off freja after first tho they win
shy on freja they never had a chance
insane
just dont let weibo play in another map 5 ever again
Geekay the team thats amazing at playing against there opponents weaknesses
Just forgot to learn other regions
geekays strats are just shit in other regions
So what i just said
Its great against the people they've practiced it against ut they forgot not everyone plays like that
like geekay > tl but i expect tl to go further in international events everyday of the week
Oh yea
Id say geekay isnt that much better but there playstyles too specific
https://pickems.gatt.space/pickems/Overwatch Champions Series%2F2025%2FMidseason Championship
Playoffs Bracket has been added, and Pick'ems are enabled 
LOL
Nice joke
lol

😛
lol
SHU LOL
87-13% cr
insane
atleast tm gets to play cr for the first time
i told you he is a giant @robust patio
what they should do
@somber yacht cr game soon
is awkwardly have them about 5 ft apart
lip walking a bit behind danny to give the impression they're the same height LOL
LOL
4th 2nd
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
this highlight goes crazy tho
they really didn't want to flex their 6th-8th place finish in Hangzhou
they have simple
has the commentator just called quartz the best hitscan player
he is insane
he is washed
he kill 3 every fight
😵
hope this atleast will be close
hes not lip tho
im just sad all 3 emea teams are on the same side of the bracket
a team being dominant for 2 years is insane
t1
t1
LOOOOL JAKEEEE XD
jake love emea
jake is a bum anyway ngl
bum region
i remember when eu was better than na
LOL THE BOOS XD
boooo
Saudi Arabia REALLY HATES CR XD
fuck twisted minds
high bar
still are
why do they wear earbuds and headphones
Hamsters are rresl
coach
noice cancelation
i thought it was noice cancellation
earbuds for coach
so they cant hear the boos LOL
headphones has built in noise
they wear it every tourney
cancel
junbin ball aura
ban
even tm fear his aura
cute hammond
keycap
damn they got the star on their uniform
sign for their win last year
ewc
ty for reminding me
youbi already sweating lmfao
i lost track of time and twitch never notified me 😭
np
im watching on tiktok
i dont need those drops
DOES SOMEONE HAVE A MAGA MAKE ANA GREAT AGAIN SIGN
lijang tower
what are the drops
cas ban is huge
skins
im watching on the esports world cup website 😭
they should haveprotected dps
nah
i just like twisted minds because their team manager is based
dva
w counterswap
it is. they cant ban pharah and ban quartz hero
that was the paper scissors rock counter based solely on vibes
quartz is def not washed lmao
junbin should probably just go ram or haz
we are a minute in
he is
in any other matchup, the dva should be losing against the monkey
quartz is top 1 hitscan itw on a good day
and heesang should go tracer lowkey
why is lip nervous
yes force phara
shoudlont have comitted that overclock
gg
junbin playing winston like a european
tbh heesang took to long to pop ult
quartz is him
this point is hard tho
cr is washed too
holy
shu is shaking
chorong is confident holy
insane air
shot
holy
that direct was clean
there is a reason why its called LEEJAEGON TOWER
i love how crowds go silent
eww
is he retired now
its for a reason @weak frost
but its made for korean lucios
i love pharah in pro play
heesang nonchalent
the god who diffed guxue winton 8times
Youbi is such a liability
i thought youbi was meant to be good
i hear so much and see no quality
hes like morgan rogers
Quartz against CR
Tbf he’s against pharah
i have never seen it
The pharah?
better than eis tbf
no
youbi playing notably well
they thr everything away
he got 1 trade on night market and had kept trying since
pharawinton
good map
2v5
junbin balling next map
HES JUST THE BEST TANK IN THE WORLD
the ball ban is a WASTE
HES JUST THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER TOUCH THE ROLE
they cant ban him again
Poor Quartz
quartz rn
simple you fucking idiot
i had no doubts on cr
they are one of the most vers team
yall are glazing on twisted
Yes! Finally the Juno OWCS skin
they threw that game with ults
yea cuz they are not coordinated enough lmfao
crowds silenced
which is what i said
i shouldve got that but im watching on the esports world cup site for no ads
nope
im just amazed how glazed you are with twisted
Site?
well i like tm
that ball ban is a waste
Twitch doesn’t have ads hello? It’s a tournament not a streamer farming ads
yeah?
you cant ban him again later
emea only hope of winning finals is tm beating cr
i dont like twitch because every time i go on there theres 3 mins of ads every hour
You’re not gonna get ads. Only when you start the stream
and alqad or vp
or if al qad wins their match and faces cr if they win
That doesn’t happen for tournaments
That’s just streamers farming ads.
emea vs emea
idc
Whatever
SWITCHED TO MAX?
why would you swap out junbin when hes doing so well
junbin ball card later
Were you expecting a Junbin ball on circuit?
its moons strat
map picks exist
not every map is a ball map ya know
the iconic moon strat
You don’t want Junbin on ram. That’s why
thanks bro didnt realise
max rein beat falcon circuit
so what you waffling about
LMFAOOOO
Hanbin was on rein
why is it every time when i listened at the theme song of ewc on stream it makes me twerk? LOL random question
Max played zarya
you think they gonna put in junbin if they pick circuit?
Max has never played rein
LMFAOOOO
Quartz cooked first point but then youbi decided to be funny and die every fight first
classic
Tm got a point
PUBG MOBILE LMAOOOO
Holy
that cas ban was huge
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOL 3 million prize pool. 2 million more than overwatch
pubg mobile
WHY NOT JUST REGULAR PUBG
who plays thay
pubg is very big
PUBG IN 2025 BRO
That’s there too
koreans dominate that
but saudi dominate pubg mobile i think
so more money
LMFAOO ironic
Pubg mobile is more popular
how is simple allowed a bright pink keyboard on a saudi team
pubg mobile is also very big
🤷♀️
I want that
koreans dominate everything
me too fr
tm is pink
yeah guys saudi arabia murder everyone who wears pink
is youbi a sym otp
Hes not wearing the keyboard 
and mei
he played it last year ewc
OWCHKAOZJEBVS
no way dude lol
bro
KSAA REIN
REIN
😭
aint no wa
Thought maybe KSAA would go sigma
emea loves the reinhardt i think
dva nice
they think they are ssg
nice bap ult 🤣
Lol window
ksaa?
He’s not missing but the fall damage is saving lip
im sorry quartz i wasnt familiar with ur game
I miss sigma
heesang get on mei before I crash out
Let’s go CR
hm idk
so can lip lol
Maybe zest too? Not really but maybe?
heesang sym beat falcons
and stalker
If only Quartz can go freja
quartz locked in
quartz aim is insane
quartz playing alone
HELP
yea
didnt need a beat
lip ist good on frega imo
yea
@robust patio quartz is not washed
get him on soj
he isnt good either tbh
i love the tp ults
idk why they force it whne they tried it before it didt work
max zarya....
lip cas
or dont swap
youbi doing things
lip swapping is crazy
Max is in gg
pls eat the zarya ult
Max zarya
ksaa pls
@glass osprey hey man
kill max
quartz carrying
sub out ur on form tank player for THIS
Max on zar?
why not save it
good trades
it was circuit
this zarya ult gonna be dezdy
shuban missile crisis wya
https://streamable.com/blbnwq
yes
i pefer ram over zarya
I agree
get max out
well... back to the drawing board
idk what moon is doing
can they still pick gibraltar now?
should've just swapped off zar when it didn't work out after like the second fight
even if a payload map just got picked
just feels like a cheese pick
no
thank god
as a Max believer I’m sad to see him fall off
TM IS BACK
sym is so disgusting
no but max gets plenty hate :(
he is soemtimes overconfident
It’s not max’s fault
they gonna map sym this map and protect pharah 100%
it crazy cuz cr had played ram on there bfeore
It’s just CR plays comps that eu teams are familiar with with max
they just played their ults and stuff so much better and quartz had aimbot
I feel like astro got the later beat every time
sometimes but I think he’s better than a lot of people give him credit for
Simple always had rush
Would you take max over hanbin or bernar for off tanks?
probably not those two
i'd take ves over max LOL
Wtf
Ves is a goated off tank
Wow
but idk
Vestola is overrated this year
yes he is in the top10 tank
I think Max can hold his own over Ves
Vestola struggling against Guxue on off tanks
my guess is moon doest wanna show his cards
1-1
niceee
2min
Tbh why did CR ban ram? Max could just mirror and win
every comp cr played is the are nomral comps u see in comp
they really wanted the sig comp ig
could've just mirrored the dva at the end
let him cook
They never played dva on circuit so it’s hard for cr to just ban that hero
zarya is kinda fake
KSAA: guys I go rein here.
moon saving dva sym ban
Hmmmm
who did tm ban on circuit?
Idk
at least ksaa realizes when he has to swap off the cheese pick
idk why max sticks to zar there
Pharah
just mirror dva
fuck
Maybe he thought zarya and Mei would work against dva
junbin
It does it just cr is to slow
CR Play monkey on aatlis
Plus they don’t have sym
Max held grav for so long
To
Melt dva
That too
hello my glorious king
Cute!
if sym is banned pls youbi go echo, mei or venture not tracer
Lol
moon locked in
Why would you ask youbi to play heroes he doesn’t have unlocked?
nah he has mei and venture
echo ehhh
Definitely not echo
surely anyone can play venture
And his venture has like 10 min playtime
idk why but everytime theres an event
theres always a meta shift
after 2019 events
lip being shaky
Why ball on this map?
I feel like
Winston is better
shu dead on cooldown
shit
shu needs to swap
damn that stick
that’s why Lip the goat
they trynna quick farm beat
giving cr fans heart attaxks
say what you will about Shu rn but that nano was nice
ok lip
need a man who can do it all like Lip can
awwe so close
???
how
?
no
obstacle block
he shouldnt have died
???
tm paid ewc lmfao
youbi is insane wtf
they cant program the game to be rigged
maybe just a bug
they run on the same servers
shouldve been over then
finally a team that pushes back on quartz
so tired of seeing this guy have his way all the time
dive is op
heesang nasty
venture op
youbi venture when
especially when it’s not Rokit on venture
sleep
nooo
omg
insane shu
shu
good shit shu
gege
this game shouldve been over
if junbin didnt die on that dva
not even close game
that hello
💀
simple is crazy if he sees this comp and decides he’s gonna play Ana
youbi getting diffed left and right on lip tracer
ball is soo good
SHU = BEST ANA
on aatlis
ilios 2.0
for sure
tm go midtown pls
tbh shu learned from rjh
this is known
ik im just restating it
and he is goated
That CR comp is never out of meta
i like this ball comp cause they can just bully Quartz
They harassed Quartz
just demolish the carry
fr
Great plan
moon: focus quartz and yall win
if tm dont go hybrid bro
yes
probably
good sym map
dva ban card now?
but they gonna be stupid and pick a garbage push map
blizzard world and eich are both decent ball maps
and they already banned ball
so midtown 100%
its not useful if max is in.
way more important if they play junbin
I hope we'll have a map 5
max redemption
have they banned Bap
tbh if they go midtown junbin should still play


