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tl vs cr
Oh and zeruhh that good
weibo vs falcons
Last tournament and this one now
gk vs qad
did u evem watch the ntmr vs cr games
Zeruhh was the biggest reason they won in the 3-1 against cr last time
Literally no actual way to dispute that
cr was on fucking solider
He should be able to carry
by far
also cr was throwing
Ye but still
Second biggest reason was crs fumble
Others popped off 2
all of ntmr did
Cuffa lethal did worl
but zeruhh was on one the entire series
didnt tm get bitch slapped by the full american na 3rd seed?
wait who did tm lose to today
Yes
Tm is saudi not eu
🥸
saudis better than eu tho
like easily too
Hm maybe
Tho youbi has negative sjra
best 2 emea teams are both predominantly saudi
3/7 of there team is eu
2 of there bad hero pool players are the eu ones
Seic and astro
Vp glaze
this WILL happen
gotta be bait
Def bait
this proves eu is better
seicoe is goated
me lying and coping proves eu is better
😭
na clears
lol
Lost to eu team smurf in na
Ssg and liquid couldnt handle the eu power
hes ragebaiting dont engage
eu could never take a good team to game 5
the second seed na
tl wouldve won too if they didnt walk out on that ugly ass orisa and mauga comp
i hate when cr always wins after almost losing
happens like every lan
against some team
tbf i think TL shot themselves in the foot
we just beat ur best team
and ur best team is an eu team
I claimed my drops rewards but they aren’t on my account do you know why
they didnt beat TL
Emea doesnt have
A single team that has 1 or less people from another region
geekay > liquid lol
Na has 2
cope
its true
Crwould sweep gk
who won stage 2
liquid just better
who won stage 2
Ram carry
so an australian is the best tank in na
it was a game 7 anyway couldve gone either way
Nah
Im personally taking Infekted
plus TL just went map 5 with the best team itw
true and real
But I mean I'm not gonna deny tht cuffa is also an option
while gk lost to fraud AL qad
Ok I ain't say allat
I tried to kill junkbuck today my fault. I played so bad but my team got my back. Won’t happen again mb just tired
Ggs 2-0 team cc 3-2 geekay
Eus best team has 1 person from eu
1 from na
1 from korea
And the rest from saudi
Al Qad probably beat liquid as well I think
how is an undefeated team throughout the whole stage and rn frauds
eu is just saudi 2.0
like thats just insane to say
cause fraud region
just copium
al qad and geekay are very similar in skill (geekay is 60% eu)
twisted is better than ntmr
vp is better than liquid
tu is better than ssg
gen.g is better than sakura
peps is better than extinction
team vision is better than supernova
anomaly is better than dhillducks
heres tthe cope
again
vp wouldnt have gone to grand finals in soop cup if eu were a fraud region
VP is not better than liquid lol

Vp is the only of your 3 there actually mostly eu
Tu and SSG is like trash vs recycling it doesn't even matter
And a third of it is korean
and they're significantly worse then liquid
Also I think ntmr are better than tm
tm are consistently inconsistent
eu skill goes deeper this is a fact
we dont have 2 super teams
all our teams are good
And yet 2/3 eu teams have a total of 3 eu players
Doesn't even matter atp
yeah because no ones good enough
they are all just equally mid
and will all flop on the big stage
Like cool ur bottom 2 are better than our bottom 2
Both still bottom 2
Like what
but they all beat their na counterpart
anything to make eu look like a real region
Tm lost to someone worse then there counterpart
EU is also a horrible region to develop in imo
falcons
oh
like u have any experience how its like in any region
I mean I have eyes and ears
I can look at a random Saudi org fucking over young players every stage
just say what you want to say lil pup
The entire roster of sign esports
Has 1 less na player
Then all 3 eu teams combined
do vp even hold a candle to tm and qad
Eus number 1 and 2 seat
Have 3 total eu players
Rn? No
i feel like ntmr punch up more than vp do
They're bad at sym but wanna play it
yeah but not with vp
putting eis on sym was clever
I mean yeah no shit
Vp can beat agg i think
Vp were on top of the world and then right after ppl don't even rate them
also i thought agg were good
But as of rn besides aq emea is a fraud asf
Na in total has 3 eu players
1 korean
And Australia who dont really have any teams nearly at that level so those players kinda need to go other places usually to get major notice
Good at dive
they were lowkey carried by jaewoo for all of stage 1
ye its very possible
it wasnt too long ago vp beat them 3-0
also shockwave fell off a bit when freja was introduced
they've gotten alot better, but things can change
It was like 6 patches ago
That's a long ass time💀
Bc he plays off tank
oh
he's the circuit guy
i feel na has more raw talent but emea just has more money
Vp keept up with weibo who keept up with falcons
they should get someone who can play ram
Eu has 4 korean players
Emea
Has more korean players then na has European players
The eu players on na teams cannot be an argument here
While agg got 3 oed
nah i acttually do think vp will bea agg
Naw has some of the least money overall for sure
yea and i wouldn't say these patches have hurt vp that much
Na
maybe in comparison to the rest of eu but not against other regions
agg is gonna lost every match
I definitely think vp could beat agg tho lowk
It can cuz its the best team in na
like these lower tier na teams have moments of brilliance but just dont have enough funding to be successful
I think they're even worse into other regions lowk
honestly i just want anyone to beat a korean team
Doesnt defend signs wiping of tm in there match
like pdk is genuinely really good
Geekay and liquid are imo very neck and neck teams though
i mean they did go to game 7
They clearly wanna play sym despite being clearly bad at if you can't even run the meta comp into the "weakest" region then ur beyond cooked
you think the way the meta has shifted has made korean comps better in comparison to what vp play?
Add al qad in
Like
The difference from 1st and second seed in NA isnt
Huge at all
eu isnt actually trash
I claimed my drops rewards but they aren’t on my account do you know why
What VP plays.... Is sym
They shouldn't
liquid is a bit better
But they do
i think
I'd put them at even but al qad is the least European team eu has
they only win fights if shockwave server admins
Which is rare
I also think the fixa Lucio is kinda
Mid
I don't wanna say bad but like u can tell it's not his best look
super good lucio patch
i just dont see a world where vp top twos
Emea team🤓
i just needd shy to do whatever he did on second point shambalili and do it for the rest of the tourny
tbh
they dont if jaewoo is in and this doesnt answer my question
Al qad sprinkled in every region with there saudi tesm as like seasoning
this is also false
I agree
look at the weibo vs vp game today
also can we talk about the guxue ram
Trash korean
like holy
whos the best non korean dps
get lige out of here
Zeruh
like his best showing all stage
useless pov
Lbbd7
YESS SIRRRRR
thats true
Or lbbd7 yea
Zeruhh or lbbd7
which isn't a good thing shockwave isn't as consistent as he was back in stage 4
so he's in good form now, when it matters the most
Maube quartz
what about shy🥺
zeruhh, quartz, kronik
Ill put tms carry on the best non korean dps
quartz is probably the best
I need to see more kronik honestly
cause like the team is nothing without him
Best what?
lenny when he's not on a pge funny wingstop team
Nah
Worst dps
Zeruhh or quartz are my top 2 imo
sugarbron
Youbi
Rn? I don't think it's quartz lowk
i saw someone say sugar free was the best dps in the world lol
Like day one of ewc I'll say shy
Cause youbis got one of the worst hero pools
its not quartz
i believe in shy
lbbd7 have mogged him all year
Shy 5k man
quartz straight up got diffed by kronik today
or lbbd7 yeah
Eh
its just zeruhh
It's shy or lbbd7
like objectively played better than him
Lbbd7
yea zeruhh is probably the best non korean dps rn
dude he showed signs during the game vs falcons
but then he was useless right after
He always had it in him to take on the best KR teams
They're just kinda shit at the ram comp
like map 5 2nd point of shambaili attack he literally killed like 6 people in a row and won a 3v5
But that otherworldly gameplay we saw from him during OWL is not going to happen every major
The dps line just makes up for it
guxue literally does nothing
ngl
That's just ram tho
does lige not play ram
Nobody doesn't anything on tht hero
but he felt extra useless
But I do think they look better on orisa
him and someone were both feeding their brains out ngl
i thought his ram looked fine
at times
Guxue has played orisa in the past and he's probably more comfortable on it
obviously not someone's ram but guxue looked serviceable
get that sexy beast on orisa NOW
If they sticked to that and venture more i think they would win
they had the chance to go gib
and choose eich for some reason
it worked but it was confusing
Monkey is ass rn
yeah and the amount of venture surprised me
didnt know they were that good
Good in gib still
proper on the venture is goated
I thought the venture was just a sym counter but its lowkey broken
yeah but they can't play ana brig either
proper gaps leave on all heroes
they don't have lengsa anymore there's a reason why they avoided the ana brig mew can't play it
Just lucio kiri
At that point go eich
mew getting on my nerves🤬
I think they should've swapped monkey second point that's it
ain't it crazy how a falcons v weibo 5 map series once again came down to mew fucking up his ult
Per usual
like is this guy legally obligated to do that or something
what did mew do again
Mew is the oppsite of the rest of the team
Ajax
i lowkey stopped watching it
Idk besides the ajax and his brig play I think he was solid
he was
its just the big moments
and yeah ur right do not let that man on brig
anyway liquid is winning it all
and weibo is getting 2nd
You think roc or varrel beat tl???
Mind u roc already got 2-0d by liquid
Why didn't they lock in the first time
jetlag or something idk
They were already in Saudi 💔
Im a roc disbeliver cause chinas region is
No matter what out of the 4 regions china is rough
When teams at times would rather throw then play against there best team
Honestly its wild to me how strong korea is with them having the most teams at this event
The only 4 team region
korea is strong, bread found in bakery
Its still insane thag falcons was the team that had to make it in without being top 3
But like this last year alone teams everywhere improved a ton
Even since the last big event
Mo matter who you prefer
Teams have improved a lot
vp in finals is funny lol
why we even considering the idea that vp and roc make it out of groups
i mean roc has a decent chance at least
vp didnt look helpless against weibo
agg is far from falcons lvl and vp have beat that team before
I dont think roc does
Too many teams are just simply better then roc
Liquid can definitely beat them
Theres no way rocs better then tm
And sign is worse then liquid
most people have roc low i think their Support is their biggest issue because Diya and Tajeong is good and Belo is ok
lol
Honestly max looked amazing during the hazard meta
But since then hes been there weak link
TL would’ve won if they didn’t waste a point playing ram. They’d win if they came out on hazard from the start
How many times they got to show the crowd lol
Also it's funny how much better the casting is on B stream
Actually painful watching those A stream games
wow Tm lost
TM Vs Sign iirc
i figured
Sign just better
they are almost university lvl
rokit lep is contenders
i thought emea is strong in symbrawl
Nah they aren't too bad they've done well against top na
They won 1st map and saved Sym ban for 3rd map
all saudi dps are washed now
lbbd was good for it today
Ag still has a chancd i think
Not a big one though
Time is running out for AG Global
They were a favorite to win group A before preds were locked in
you aint doung this to me
after this devastating falcons loss
on god wbg will qualify
Lip: thank god we started off good, its been quite a long time we played on huge Lan events so we kind of struggled due to jet lag. Thank you for all the fans who came far away to cheer us
how is saudi losing on their home ground
Quartz and youbi popped off lowkey
I mean Al qadish haven’t lost
Nor team falcons
Twisted minds were just so like
Weird
When they came in
(I was there live)
All of them seemed to be in a pissed off mood
Esp youbi
This dude wouldn’t acknowledge his home country or his fans calling him out
Only person who seemed to care was quartz 😭
Also I don’t know if it’s cause of jetlag but some of the players there overall were so like egotistical
Could be because they were tired from the jetlag
against sign?
they both got diffed
But overall it seemed like there was no team synergy
It’s almost as if they knew they’d lose
Which is so weird considering this is half of their rosters home ground
feels like they got robbed of a ton of good fights cuz kronik kept getting miracle prefight picks
Honestly fair
But when it came to the obvious like vibe of each team
Twisted minds seemed so like off
The fans would literally
Scream and show support but none of them acknowledged it
Especially youbi 😭
One of my friends told me you shouldn’t support him
And I didn’t wanna judge
Before hand
But now after going there day 1 and seeing everything I can see why
Other then quartz
It seemed like youbi simple and funnyastro had like
Some weird tension between them yk
Even ksaa
I said might out if the two options, but WBG should win
team falcons has no saudi players
A team sponsored by Saudi
it has my friend
Is what I meant
But my point still stands
Even tho they have 0 Saudi players
They were more hyped and intrigued to play
In Saudi then actual Saudi players
😭😭
it aint saudi if they have no saudi players
Who is it?
Someone
I’m saying they’re a team sponsored by Saudi
my irl friend
yea
I don’t mean they’re genuinely Saudi 😭😭
lel
yuh
ALWAYS HAS BEEN
zeruhh and tr33 are better than quartz lbdd
i actually worried for NA a lot this tournament
i am very relieved to see that NA still got it
Other then the most target bannable team
Tm has my favourite of the esportd skins
Snd zeta didnt even make it which is kinda funny in a way
is anybody actually getting the gen g skins
yes probably only me tho
i lowkey feel bad :[
I hope they have a good next stage
Dont i was probably gonna buy any esport recolour style skin they released
I enjoy having the skins
And i missed out on the ones i wanted with owl
And i can afford it so
I have reapers and a few others
But not many
Geekay is emea
I prefer liquid over geekay on average anyway
The teams are very neck and neck
Geekays just more fun with strats then
Anyone else imo
Stuck in the matrix if u think they are na
NA on top
idk I feel like this AGG still got the potential to do good here
since when was geekay emea
everyone have looked like frauds this tourney
Since wmoine joined
lmfao
then tm is asia
alqad is asia
cus theres checkmate
insane logic
difference is. theres only one american in that team
NA buff
They are still emea🥸
it’s real
my wife
2 out of the 5 in geekay are eu. and 1 are eurasia. the other is australian
While geekay is 60% emea 20% na
alr u win 😵
Europeans just tryna find a way to spin this into a win for them
even then
Australia 20%
emea wont win
nono the logic is quite simple
a semi final
nah al qad can
Al qad can beat cr
legit when tm got shit on by fully american stars while they aren’t even full eu
o k
for eu glazers theyre eu if they do good, theyre na if they do bad
their sym is not unbreakable
They were always eu once wmoine joined
NTMR 100% NA and liquid might as well be 99% NA with knifes playtime
No eu team at lan doesn’t have major important imports
knife don't count
Knife is fake player
if anything knife makes them more american
Your best player on AQ is American #TRUTHNUKE
the mcgee...
Vp can qualify if shockwave uses his inner potential
anyways @weary scarab emea semi finals wen
soon

hopefully never
what potential 😭 let’s hope he gets on cass he can play that hero
oh shit games already on
vestola is smoking black tar heroin
Idk why he is on mauga
no need for blossom
no need for touch apparently
how did ag win
lel
insane ade
fixa kiri carrying
gapped by shockwave
this is getting competitive
There we go vp
Damn u ade
huge
Thank you shockwave 🥹
Who is that asian coach for vp
Ah
FALCONS NOT EVEN PLAYING RN WHO CARES
the fist will fit
idk weibo took it to falcons pretty good
he will try
but there’s only so much one can do for EMEA
Europe Middle East Africa
Oh
lol
Thx
saudi fans dont know they won ow worldcup cus of korean coach Kariv strat
they just have to not throw map pick and bans
Yup and they do it quite often
saudi fans when their team wins, they praise the team, they lose, they blame the coach
like picking circuit against vp? tf
VES ON SIGMA
Blame coaches?
Who tf blames a coach
why do none of these asian teams go gib when they have a team that can play dive
saudi fans
Only coach u can blame is crusty
ull be shocked on twitter
When he ruined 2023 shock
there are many delusional saudi fans
why are we on sigma
its not even buffed sigma they are playing on last patch
this is a fake hero
holy fuck how slow is sigma
vestola ult did nothing
got a lil distracted there
insane flank by seonj
oops
I can do better fluxes fr
I really feel like ves should just go dva and win
sig is such a fake hero
thats fine they got both support ults
w stagger
man we just used 2 ults for no reason
OMG VESTOLA
pls
@robust patio 
YES
OMG
that was so close 😭
GG
Yes
fake cr fan
ok bro 💔
GREATEST OF ALL TIME
Crush those koreans
vp on tob
Beat em up
anyways wassup
VP ON TOB
vp has koreans too lol
cr almost lost to team liquid too lol
and falcons to weibo
2koreans with korean coach
lip said they are tired of jet lag
idk how tm lost when they are in their home ground
U know how you can identify ur gender as a flying dragon these days, well they indetify themselves as europeans
basically washed af
losing in their home ground is insane
wont matter
Sym meta and they have Youbi
Why yall glaze youbi like he is the best sym on the planet
yea I wanna see TL crush EMEA
Tl🤣
nothing will change and emea still wont be in thr finals
they have a solid chance of being in the semis
al qad
youbi aint great at anything
even quartz is washrr
ed
if al qad win one more match they are in the semis lol.
That dude saying vp qould make it to finals and beat cr os funnier now
Kronik freja gapped him
yea
i saw yesterday
every saudi dps is washed
if vp make it out of groups. emea have a 100% chance of making semis
could say the same about crazy racoons
that bola on Lijiang from Kronik
NA just that good
as lip said they have jet lag lol
every team have some kind of copium
whereas lbdd is homeground
Nah1
quartz didnt play bad at all
Easy win for al qad
lbbda didnt play bad vs geekay at all
lbdd played bad
no
U didnt evem watch
u were asleep when they played mate
i watched replay lmfao
U only watched 1 clip in team cc which they got rolled in
bro thinks there aint no replay 
Replays dont exist
💀
still didnt play bad. you can also make the cope that al qadsiah had to play at 1am
ragebait is insane
🥸
i think Geekay can take Al Qad
replays dont exist lmfao
Rlly they lost
they won 1 map on al qadsiahs map pick lol
they had all map picks and first bans
almost
Weibo is easy
Geekay and Al Qad are def close
And they can win that
alr
Cr lost 2 maps to liquid
atleast it will be entertaining. al qadsiah and tm have never played crazy racoons ever
alr
2and seed na
i think TL the actual better NA team
😭
its kinda crazy. in 1 and a half year tm havent played cr
Geekay better clutch team
Its clutch that matters
I dont care about tm
Infekted allergic to playing the tank he’s good at
I only care about geekay and al qad
subbing in Knife to play sym
Since they can win
that series should’ve been liquid
Low confidence
they have the talent I think they can still push it to EMEA
I mean t1 only korean team that looks korean
Falcons and CR still gonna clutch up
tf does that mean 😵
Agg will take this map
ew that stagger
ade doing a lipsom
damn. agg first team to get eliminated
Vp is clutch
that pulse was sick
not u @somber yacht
u will neva be jaewOo da goat
Third seed emea>thid seed korea
i can never be jaewoo 💔
allat but no region with any trophies 😵

okay but I think Weibo still smoke VP
works for me
2023 world cup
owcs
and thats with kariv strat
its been two years and they havent won anything
notice how inconsistent they are
What happened AG 💔
idek
do we think Sign can knock out TM
they already beat them alreasy so possible
they alr did
they can also play more venture and Freja
fair
just chilling until decider matches begin
even emea fans realize how bad their region is
I missed the last vp agg map
glad to see we 3-0ed them
when did gatos guapos get youbi
whole new roster tf
is this allowed
lol
the last matches should according to schedule start in 3 hours 20 min
me watcbing roc get bodied as expected
what's next
hey chat
I believe decider matches for group A and C
so wbg vs vp and gk vs cc
both matches should be pretty good I think
when is guxue playing so I can goon 💔 💔 💔 💔
liquipedia says wbg vs vp starts in like 1 hours and 20 minutes
thanks my goat 🤤
they not knocked out yet a fan can dream 💔 💔 💔
whole lot of mid ahead today
i woke up to lengsa popping off on circuit
only good matches should be weibo vs vp and the gk tm rematch
U mean sign
I think all decider matches today will be good
wbg vs vp
tl vs roc
gk vs cc
sign vs tm
Same with gk
I am a china believer
I think they can put up a fight
I think a roc upset againt tl is very possible at least
Atleast tm gonna be warmed up now
right right
They ego to hard by not warming up
they would've won that match if it was bo5 btw
they can make it close maybe
but tl literally had a 5 map series with cr yesterday
is roc the 2nd seed or 3rd seed?
third
roc is losing a map to varrel yea nvm these guys are not beating tl lol
real
topdragon is so good though
Wow. Is TM playing T1 today?
tm got no chance
who’s on t1 remind me 💔 💔 💔
Thanks for answering me? I guess.
donghak, proud, viper, zest, skewed, vigilante
Proud viper zest Donghak, vigilante, skewed.
Fuk okgf
This team is cooked against any non emea team
even these heroics on ROC weren't enough
TM is nothing without Quartz
second best tank in the world btw
I have donghak trauma
quartz is washed
is he good yet 💔 💔
how can quartz lose to kronik now
Nvm. It’s TM v Sign esports again
😵
Kronik is fucking good. Best hs in NA.
im old WHO is sign esports 💔 💔 💔 💔
he was always decent
POTENTIAL TANK
kronik is so good
na team
hes like a top 3 hs in the west
It’s the ntmr roster
they beat tm 2-1
No Kronik is definitely best na hs
7 TIMES THROWN DURING FINALS ROUND 1
tr33 is better
Ohhhh
Tr33 is not better lol
did they get borrowed for ewc
Oof I just love when demontic just pulls shit out of his ass
chill on goat
They’re still under ntmr
lmfao
Truke
I said I love it
nice
FREE DEMONTIC
idk I think Tr33 and Kronik are closer than people think
indeed
We should all be happy junkbuck didn’t kill himself yesterday
the only way emea could win is by koreans losing interest in ow
bro that interview was so funny
valid
What happened to bro yesterday
than kronik?
“Did you reach your goal of being a flexible team?”
Junkbuck: “no…”
he just doesn’t respect othrr ppls opinion
no point of arguing
Kronik is better but he’s on the worse team
wait he don’t even have a team in ewc he just shitposting for fun
kroniks better on freja and maybe soj but tr33 is a more rounded player
I call tr33 mr bodyshot cuz that’s all he does


