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Hanbin better
I fear he beat falcons mew just threw the game
guxue won but once again lost
Possibly true but then the CR series
man freja looks pretty easy when the enemy brig is standing out in the open
Did they even win a fight
CR had 3 games that day also
Look at the comp
no real competition
They threw the game vs nightmare then had a break with a fast series right after
Anyways Heesung gets chain lightning he's gonna show the world it's better than heal bubble
Korea playing so much orisa and na emea aren’t at all
I don’t use heal bubble. It’s useless.
Main tank sig coming thru ♿
And randomly getting a kill with chain is so satisfying
double flex backline from tl
It's useful with Tracer in pro but I think every other situation that chain is clearly better
they cook here
Yes from the games I’ve watched. Korea either playing orisa or monkey.
Only
Odd
Not really
Orisa gets what buff and boom, she’s meta again.
They played like an equal amount of monkey as orisa right
Orisa was already kinda sleeper
Bap 🔥
Now ppl are just playing it more
also mauga got nerfed recently
Infekted
He got nuked you mean.
not really
at least not in pro play, they stilled played him a lot after the nerfs
Yes he did
Yeah cuz it’s falcons
Soj+ freja
They made that shit work
Tr33 hate watch is working
Press every button at once challenge from Infekted
In china I think most teams played him
And runasapi only map everyone played mauga
Definitely not
It was only falcons and OA and CR on runasapi
Cmon
at least on flat maps like lijang control center, oasis, runasappi etc
Lenny on Souj
You know at the end of last year I said infekted could be greater than super
I lied
I’m geeked
Lied my ass off
TL might be man united of OW
get this whiteboy off ram
the three best teams in the tourney
Lenny on soj is valid
Two of them ONLY played mauga on runasapi and that’s also cuz of the bans
My fantasy team is actually farming
thats false
It’s true
they played him on most flat maps
Feel bad for Rupal
They definitely did not
I don't
they did
Buddy is highkey washed
They played monkey on Suravasa
Only Falcons forced Mauga
double hitscan?
Rupal plays like shit and Vega gets the blame it's kinda crazy
Liquid backline isn’t it anymore
It's a fantasy roster it doesn't really matter
Glad I don’t got them on my team
They aren’t it
ah ight
My roster is cooked
lijang control center, runsappi, esparanca, oasis
Mag and crusty wintrading my points away
mauga was played on all these maps
yo lowkey liquids not a bad team they just bad when they decide to be stupid
SSG casually making it easier for liquid
how was he nuked if he was still a top 2 ground tank in the tourney
Poking down the ram works? Let's swap off zen soj
unless ssg just playin with they food
hold up
Kellan wtf
What a play
Lmao
what is na overwatch
that was too close
yo lowkey these people are just stupid in the head
they go from bein competitive and wantin to win it all to fuckin around like its qp
No Mei on circuit is lowk crazy
Rolling to dying to flank ram and missing the sig ult
They switch between playin to have fun and playin to deadass win
Where did they think he was at
Main tank sig coming thru ♿
Wait why is liquid extra locked when comm check happens
they locked in
Lowkey a great window
yo lowkey liquid wins the whole stage if they actually want this
Casting so ass they stayed Comms the whole point
liquid is so fucking bipolar
T3rr locked in
if only they played this good all the time
I'd honestly rather listen to comms the whole game
U have 3 trolls with high potential then zeruhh and Rupal
^^^^^
Like they're actually the best team if they want to be
Rupal on his 2 trick hero
THATS WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING
IT IS LITERALLY ABOUT HOW BAD THEY WANT IT
if they looked like this all the time theyd be the best in the west
Wtf was that dash from Lenny?
puberty Infekted might be the answer
better than stage 1 ntmr
Team isn't bullying him all game so they can lock in
Someone in chat complained comms took too long
Also
💀
i like to think fucking sigma
god they look so fucking clean when they actually want to win
fangirling rn
You mean they look clean playing ram into sigma on circuit?

miss the days of Infekted popping nemesis and just exploding
I mean SSG are playing the most aids comp ever for ram
The zen freja?
Bap zen soj freja
they cooked on round 2 tho did they not
It’s freja genji
The ram has to play perfect to not explode
Did u not watch the game?
Infekted locked mid way
Makes sense why he picked the longer shield
the moment they swapped genji Lucio SSG lost all momentum
I literally just watched sugarfree dash into 5 and immediately die
Are Kellan and Bliss in Korea still?
no
I don’t think so
He was also on genji for like 1 minute lol
That new genji skin is so nice
i thought i heard they were on ping somewhere
Hollywood ?
nope
Nah they're my living the American dream
What the
I might’ve missed the game somehow
Has that map been picked recently
They only played genji Lucio and the end of the second round
Yeah my eyes were closed mb
hes on mauga again
Is it me or is the music like really off
MAUGA
got infekted running laps around point
infekted just mirror winston no balls
I'm seeing the vision
Mauga is kinda insane on this part of second
But they lose a fight they're kinda cooked
LMFAOOO
Kellan got sucked into the cage
nuked hero btw
These casters suck
Winston destroys Mauga when he can play outside of tiny choke
Buying this mythic tracer color just bc zeruhh
Wait I just realized ana is banned
I was wondering why they didn't go ana brig for second
wow
Ssg just played that bad
i think tr33 is just that good
That and the ana ban bgl
tr33 absolutely locked in
Like ana brig lowkey fries liquid
Tr33 and Freja are just too deadly
What is sugarbron saving these pulses for
He's waiting for the pge boss call
oooo nice pulse
Literally had it ready for over 2 minutes and didn't use it alright
I told y'all he's old and complacent
The dog that was in him ran away 💔
It's fine Ana ban is gone now so they win next maps
Seeker can't help but just fall over in Zeruhh presence
Suravasa or Colosseo I guess
why don't they play mercy lw moira in these games?
ows typa comment
LOL
tr33 my goat
SEEKER PLEASE
What did Vega do
boom
Tr33 is the real von
What a demon
not ajax
it's just a Seeker gap
Before the stage started on stream he said liquid were locked in
I had full trust in his words
i knew this was gonna be tr33s hero
mauga still though have we no shame
just right up his alley as a hyper flex dps
I fear SSG played it horribly
just a macro diff
white boy will NOT dive
Tr33 destroyed them
mauga comp is a major litmus test
bottom 4 out of 3000 is crazy
Seeker just couldn't keep up
I'm 300 or something
Slow start.
No fuckin way 😭
Lol #1 took Youbi as a cheap option and lucked out
Wait I'm probably not that much ahead
They got Heesung Kevster Youbi Landon Kellex
Geng stocks are down
And I didn't check the schedule before roster lock so my VP players didn't play
It’s an investment
Cjay Bliss just fucked me
also chat how tf did tu take down geng
Just wait. Painkiller and Rokit gonna carry my stats
Who got mvp
It's fine Wub will destroy and bring it back
Here’s my dream roster
Donghak
Becky (freja specialist)
Vonruhh
Alphayi
Squid
this is a kr roster if u couldn’t tell
Is it a good idea or a bad idea to have two from one team?
interesting
It wasn’t intentional but I have two from TM and two from NTMR
feel like tr33 should've got player of the match
zeruhh is such a little drop of sunshine
@static turret no way this is u
that roster looks so good
Shhh
Becky Squid wth
??
no way mel is short for fucking smelvin
🤫
It's short for free meals
yep kon my new goat u got no more aura
new??
Mel is NOT short for smelvin or this
lowkey true
we know free heals is ur alt
Kon you were always my goat
Smelvin
Nvm you are not my goat
from extinction?
No
True nvm is the goat
Koncrete
YES
4 ults per copy
only playing that
tap in
I have frames now
i lowkey only know orisa but we can
He’s 2-6 btw
My dream roster is
Heesung
Stalker
Backbone
Maka
Chorong
Backbone is probably just a drawback but he's the goat so
I'm 4-1 in 6v6 rn
I just hate it
well I hate open queue
I wanted the zeb pk orisa mirror ngl
That's some peak na overwatch
Fw it
You wouldn't even know you've been dodging
you don't wanna hang us anymore 💔
Get a pc
@hybrid hollow we need to start telepathically communicating to get a surge rally going
we would win every ult fight
he won’t talk bruh
He talks when we duo
Or like talk
Why are we lying
I’m not expecting u too
Admit it
u mad shy
that’s what they all say
There's full vods of me talking
i’m mad lazy too
I’ve heard him talk
M🤥
My friends were doing pugs like a year ago and there's a clip of me hard comming against gold players
WOOOOOO
It's actually hilarious
unc
Very passionate about my non ranked overwatch
Be trying hard asl in gun game no cd
yeah
He’s on hazard
predicted
Both painkiller and Rokit are on my fantasy roster. I need them to pop off massively to get me out of bottom 4
Freaking Rokit…
Last place is wicked
I'm only at -23
I might have to swap Quartz for lbbd7
TM just losing every stage. Not a good investment
i had infekted scissors cjay but infekted did so good im fine
I went for players that pop off individually
Scissors?
0?
trolling
Yikes
tied with raelyni
ngl gang u might need ur head checked
Are you babygirl
You’re babygirl?
the guy who's 100% NEVER gonna play a map
i’m changing in ryan next week
no changes otherwise
u can change it now
oh
highkey just changed my roster
Yes but thought it was only after the weekend
nah
Who should I swap
invested in heesung stocks lowkey
I gotta get rid of crispy I guess
took khenail off for Vega and still letting the whoru pick marinate
yeah first thing i thought of
assumed it was gonn be taken but it’s just me now
Lol
lowkey wanted to make my name viol2t
I think both dps should be hs
nenwhy will be my carry player
Especially if it’s freja cuz she kills everything
Next week I might invest in the double hs
I was thinking tht at first but whoru was only 21
Unfortunately crusty and mag are throwing away my points
Yeah crispy going away
cjay infekted being worth the same so legit a net neutral for me
how do points even work
idk
like what stats are they based on
i just got none
maybe vega just did that shit that it’s nothing yet
also can we agree that cjay looks way fucking cooler than vega here
what a better photoshoot
Yeah
also
jokingly told durps to raid ow esports channel and he did it
The issue is so simple
😭😭
It’s fastro
im guessing liquid lost
And youbi
cause why is my goat sulking
No
Shitted on ssg
LETS FUCKING GO
Ngl I kinda don’t like freja
I need zeruhh to take infekted into the upper echeleon
shes unbalanced and unfun to fight against
Liquid casually showing they're the best team in na if they stopped trolling
no shit
Infekted puberty theory is real
I mean her gameplay is so boring. “Zoom shoot zoom shoot zoom shoot”
You stand still like it’s Valorant
best passive in the game too
Pharah being able to move with barrage is so stupid
well lemme not say tbat
idk most passives off top of my head
but freja passive is insane
I saw Quartz ult and have 41% left
Freja ult works like that ult in apex right
i like freja except for that stupid fucking passive
Like it's multiple charges
Whats the passive
3 elims she gets ult charge boost
every 3 final blows give bonus ult charge
That gives you ult every fight
so she just has ult every fight
oh final blows
Wait wtf 💀
my fault
LMFAO
idk actually
Lowkey peak
what it its elims
You get 25%
would be insane
Give it to brig
THIS
she can also charge it up when you already have ult
Clear didn’t die
Lukemino looking like me on brig
so you can pop ult and already have like 30% ult charge
Freja passive is a good design
but not on freja
oh and kills with the ult also count towards the passive
I saw Quartz ult and have 40% after ult
Nah it's bad design in general
Ult charge boost is such a stupid idea
weaker characters would benefit from it
like bad or passive ults
Any hero would benefit from it
no shit
im talking from a balance perspective
col isnt the craziest support ult but if you have it every fight suddenly it's busted
I’m always not a fan of heroes with insane damage bursts
70 meters is a lot tho
Cuz she doesn’t have the mobility or the spam freja has
Also ult every minute is crazy
not being able to kill some hoe in havana balcony from atk spawn is aids
assuming shes not banned
Ah
just an extreme example
considering thats her best overall map
for how big it is
havana 3rd point is ass for widow tho
esp on atk
whos playing
Ntmr v Sakura
hows new ntmr holding up?
Significantly better than Sakura
Erm. Eh. They’re 1-0 rn but
They’re not ntmr but they’re ntmr
Current ntmr is a good roster ngl
or is that another team
kronik is such an underrated player
They’re better than Sakura but they’re worse than old ntmr
I cant wait to see admiral play again
3-5
na mvp material
Zzz use to be on ntmr
The original ntmr
The start of the na redemption
Yeah he got benched for Cjay
Ayyyyy Rokit with 30 elims
It’s UAE Org
#TorontoComeBack
I think
I gotta grind comp this season I still don't have a galactic weapon
Kronik is suck an aimer
that dubai money
they’re all kinda ugly
galactic doom passable too
I got it for genji
this what i got
I still need it for tracer Lucio Juno soj
ew
Mauga
?
i think jade genji looks best
I got the new mythic variant for tracer just bc zeruhh
aura
He has the galaxy skin on it too
So you should start grinding
That's why I have to grind

I gotta get galactic brig first tho
fake zen fan cause i dont have jjonak skin
How many out there have Toronto ana tho
I just need it for mauga monkey ram jq soj tracer Lucio Juno kiriko
Where's the Rupal truthers
all jumped ship
it's insane how many ana skins I have bc I suck at the hero
i trust rupal :p
Surely I’m no longer bottom 4
lool
That’s starter pack Ana skin is so clean
I have it
Thanks
QUARTZ JUST RAGEQUIT MID MAP, FOUND YOUBI IRL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HES NON RESPONSIVE AND NOT BREATHING LMAOOOOO WE JUST WATCHED TM BLOW UP IN REAL TIME
quartz killed youbi?
based
deserved
tm just improved exponetially
do we still get vods with coms
I wanna hear youbi get yelled at
Lol wtf
I'm at 46 right now but the SSG game isn't on there yet
I doubt they'll give me much anyways
Also fuck we bout to get an Unter accountability session I don't need to see that shit 💔
hitori my goat
they really had to make this graphic
Yeah
T1 going to lan 👀
three slots + crazy raccoon is insane for kr
isn’t that what it is
2 slots + cr
nvm
has zeta looked competitive at all
Who is playing today for Korea?
Nope
Who the fuck is ong?
Oh
CR or FLC?
I mean they played two games already
TU fun t?
,&3!.&/‘shns
Beishh hmm wkaidnwhcnsuhdnd
Cr vs falcon I don’t think so
😭
Idk what the last game is tbh
Thanks. If those two aren’t playing then imma just go to ER instead
When are the matches for korea
Sleeper matches tonight
Zero interest in games and enjoying the costreams, so heres shu https://fxtwitter.com/ggam_dan/status/1921140448573198627
T1 vs Way is happening right now
And the last game is between Old Ocean and Poker Face
Not the worst game we see all round robin but VEC and Old Ocean i would bring out the popcorn for

another owcs Korea another day I complain about the dogshit twitch mobile app
I think proud is bad at freja chat 💔
watch soop
unter's not on soop 💔
im scared t1 is going to be mid again this stage if proud doesn't get better at freja
or just start forcing soj every game like lbbd7
ok i just swapped to pc hoping twitch wouldn't be as dogshit and it still just stops playback every minute
How is t1 losing
leesoomin is server admin
and ade gaps proud on freja
i love t1 cause i'm a donghead but i don't believe in their backline
Seems like way still good without whoru
t1 is also playing like garbage today but yeah way is playing really well
ade is insane on freja
They still win when freja banned
Excuse me? Why is way allowed to 3-0 T1?
Ok this sounds like cope
because it is
but timeless 3-0’d team liquid too at the start of a new meta
and we thought for a moment timeless could be near the top of na
Bc way is good
#3 korea is heavily contested
looks like Way is T1's weakness
either that or they just had a bad game
gg we go next
when will donghak’s pain end
Damn I woke up to t1 getting spanked
Ade just decided to be thanos and 100% backline gap
Ngl
Maka lsm isn’t even underrated anymore it’s just proof of how strong double flex focused teams are
All of t1 looked bad
donghak excluded
He failed but he was the last one trying every time
Twice
He threw a bubble into well
Ok it’s hard using that ability on that map
Him and mealgaru were trading feeds
You see how big well is
Ade was just popping
ok but on my life everyone else was throwing harder
And double flex worked bc zest is shit
Let me spin my web
Bro can’t mark ana or kiri
Lowkey
Without proud zest would have zero final blows icl
Idk t1 just looked so much worst
Off day i hope
Again it really looked like a timeless vs tl game last stage
Like
how the fuck are they flopping vs top four
3-0
Yea
You get the point
Lowkey zest is the only person i struggle to see potential in
viper is just so they can have 6 players atp
Guys I’m no longer bottom 4
Skewed is too old
but zest needs to lock in
I have 6 points now
shu is aging like wine skewed is aging like
what’s something that only ages a little bad
Milk
If twilight is getting mvp at 27 than skewed ain’t too old.
like he’s not milk but definitely not wine
Twilight is in eu
And that wasn’t deserved
yea
But who did he 180 sleep? A Korean
Fuck you. It was hella deserved.
Heesung
Also TU beats way
He deserved it
also mel remember this? can we bring this back up
Stop it
Ok I’m sorry
The na experiment
When the fuck was ade in na
Ade loading in with fucking Axure leading the charge
Tommothan having two main support is not it
He lost to shiki in groups 3-1 with fucking tier 3 players i guess
Like luka and ade
how
Kevster heesung is a strong frontline
It wasn’t just genG being bad. TU looked coordinated. Like the timing on dives and stuff was good.
Imagine being a talented kr talent on a barely tier 2 team and not getting out of groups, going to korea, then dominating
Whoru and Ade just came together from the most random teams to become the most wildcard dps line last stage it’s beautiful
I like way
fraud regions to demons
Ngl
FLC and T1 are my Korean teams
whoru deserves to be in korea but im glad the money is rolling in
I don’t like the region specific stuff anymore
So I’m not happy they lost 3-0
Idk
I’ve become less and less of a fan of it
So many kr deserving teams
That should be in lan
Wdym
I enjoy seeing shit like nenwhy and cookie other lower tier players get time in the spotlight
Should OWCS change to 3 imports?
And contenders or “faceit masters” isn’t big enough to support tier 2 like that anymore
I don’t want to see boring kr teams anymore. Better overwatch but at what cost
You saw less grassroots teams in owl. Be real would something like NTMR ever form in an environment with no import restrictions
Be honest
So watch Korea…
Truth
Even at lan
The 2 Korean teams just ultra farm
I would like more lower seeded kr teams
Isn’t that what you want
Besides just ewc
You want half the teams on lan to be Korean
T1 might be to strong
Bigger lans then. I remember moon saying one of his biggest wishes is for more lans spots
Or maybe ninek
idk
Unfortunately the western teams are just
Not good and it’s cr and falcons
Ntmr goats
Wait what happened with ntmr
Ntmr proved we can win
I lowkey missed all the games tho
That was the first time I was really excited
turning point on god
And then they got slammed
i went to sleep the moment the games started
Kon don’t watch Korea
watched way beat t1 in two times speed while eating cereal
ade is nuts
Was their any worth besides t1 way
Today? I didn’t watch them
i didn’t watch anyone else
I was like half awake watching zeta vs oneside I think
Did farmer play
I saw attack on dva then went back to sleep
Cmon. His dva full held TD
Yes
dude i never stay up so late but i had to stay for the 3 stack
I think
I'm not saying tht in a bad way
2am is my limit i was out fuckin cold
That's just literally what happened
after
Shit don’t tell me their one loss is him
Oh
Ignoring the 20m i spent in chat
Alright
but i was out cold
"I'm tryna sleep" spends 40 years in chat
Ngl i fell asleep at 2:30am woke up at 7:30am and im fully energized
Fastro needs to go
This is weird
He’s not him on TM
I have come to the conclusion that TM’s issues besides youbi is fastro
And get a second Korean jeez
Idc what Quartz thinks
Yeaa Seicoe did say tm was gonna go if they didn’t do good this stage
But everyone else would go besides quartz and Youbi
I think quartz needs to leave
Youbi should be the first to leave
Tbh
Quartz likes youbi too much
Quartz is wasting his talent
I’m pretty sure youb has some kind of pull for that team
Considering he’s able to manage salary
He doesn’t care I guess. He just wants to pop off and get paid a lot
He’s legit like the son of a very rich man or something
I just don't understand why youbi is ever in
Seicoe is better than him on his own heros
“B-but youbi is the igl”
And he did absolutely nothing
It’s just weird having igl be the dps, no?
Everyone else is scared
Especially on tracer too. Like how is he making team calls when he’s in the backline flanking
Most of the time yea unless it’s like proper stalker
Sure sure
Man
Get rid of youbi fastro and get a Korean bacline
Simple and some Korean ms idc
It’s not a waste
Not really
igl isn't role specific
Most of the time it’s tank or fs but if the dps is the carry
It's usually the tank but some ppl suck at igling
Then it’s them
Quartz isn’t making any calls and he’s the carry
Igl is whoever is best at i
It’s never the hs
Hitscan players can't igl tho
But hs don’t talk
It's actually just the truth
Unless s5 proper the hs isn’t the igl
Youbi lucky Quartz is hs
There’s gotta be one instance
Proper s5
Quartz better fdps than youbi
He was only the ig bc he had real deal monkeys on his team
That’s the only one i can think of
look ows i got a question
Oh u meant the server
I believe it
ye
Youbi is trash
I stopped cheering for tm cuz I was just so annoyed with tm management giving youbi so much power. Like why is a player allowed to control players’ salaries and make all the shots?
No not really
Unbelievable behavior from you
Quartz has a better echo genji and a decent sym
Therefore
He’s better
Than the sym otp
Ofc
Top teams just poach their players
Tale as old as time
They had proud jaewoo simple belo and Fixa. You think they wanna give that up?
Unfortunately moneh
I fucking hate youbi but u kinda over exaggerate how bad throwing is to value . Youbi still probably has a better fdps than quartz, and definitely if he’s also acting as an IGL
Tbf they all did substantially better when they left pf
quartz definitely wouldn’t get the value
Did they or is it just bc they’re in different regions
assuming tm isn’t lying about his igl and he’s actually just flaming everyone
Proud has always been good
Proud is still in kr
reworded it
Yea but proud was always the best player on pf
No. If you’re otp or a two trick max, you’re just a bad fdps by default imo. Can’t be flex dps if you can’t flex.
They went to eu to aura farm
Yes but small one I guess
Belosrea isn't really new talent tho
Really only jaewoo is
Fixa main support could and would save T1
same with jaewoo
But instead they just dominating kr
He does flame everyone. He literally yells at them and threatens to lower their salaries if they don’t grind 7 hours every day. That’s what KSAA said when he left tm
Besides jaewoo the rest were at least around in the tier 2 circuit for a little
Peli Viper Proud Bernar Donghak Skewed Finn ???
Yeah he is a dickhead don’t get me wrong
Well uhh
Jaewoo didn't start untill super late ow1
Viper has kinda gotten benched unfortunately
I also think being a dickhead is bad for the team environment and causes performance issues.
So youbi is the problem
And fastro is not good enough generally
Youbi always was
Quartz always shows up with his dior savage and unstoppable aura, and youbi definitely just rolls up with axe everytime
Crazy VP wanted viper over Jaewoo

