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[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/owcshottakes/status/1918605339026452701?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

OWCS Hot Takes (@OWCSHotTakes) on X

The best team in the world right now would be:
Lip
Proper
Hanbin
Junbin
Chiyo
Shu

X · May 3, 2025, 9:55 AM

LBBD7 and Lethal have a good argument for dps top

LBBD7 less so cause Lethal is more multilingual and idk about the former

[mortal cipher]

true

[glass sleet]

Doesn’t make sense to say “welcome to Saudi” when he is going to play in KR

[glass sleet]

Multilingual?

Lethal speaks Korean?

[sacred gulch]

yes

likely going to CR cause of a player going to military service

[glass sleet]

That’s crazy

Raccoon

[sacred gulch]

yea

[weary scarab]

https://x.com/AlQadsiahES/status/1918704609163378771

AlQadsiah Esports (@AlQadsiahES) on X

نرحب بـ @KellexOW في صفوف فرسان أوفرواتش 🐎

جاهزين للجاي وبقوّة 💪🔥

#KnightsWin - #القادسية

X · May 3, 2025, 4:30 PM

they got a real main support now

https://x.com/TwisMinds/status/1918697979579355475

Twisted Minds 🧠 (@TwisMinds) on X

Stage 2 locked. Welcome Simple 🩷

إضافة جديدة لأوفرواتش، أهلًا @OwSimple 🧠

#TwistTheGame

X · May 3, 2025, 4:03 PM

[glass sleet]

OWCS to SEL?

[glass sleet]

TM and their 1 Korean rule

[weary scarab]

maybe they get korean tank too

[glass sleet]

Who

I mean who’s left

Omg imagine they got SOMEONE

😭

[weary scarab]

someone

would be crazy

is belosrea in a team?

[glass sleet]

Did he leave roc?

[weary scarab]

no idea

[glass sleet]

Idk

I’m optimistic about simple btw. He has played on mix roster before

And he’s good

[weary scarab]

maybe tm dont want too many language barriers

only real thing they need is a dive tank

[glass sleet]

Someone

[glass sleet]

You think the language barrier will be more if they have two Koreans instead of one?

It’s still the same language

Do you think someone wouldn’t join a team with Quartz seicoe, simple, KSAA on it?

[weary scarab]

i really hope he does

would be peak emea roster

[glass sleet]

But I don’t think he’d wanna share time with KSAA so I doubt it

[static turret]

https://x.com/NTMRgg/status/1918723531048649174

NTMR (@NTMRgg) on X

In the stillness of time, Nightmares take shape.

The fog has cleared, and the stage is set…Introducing our OWCS Stage 2 Roster!

🛡 @painkiller_ow
🛡 @RhynO_OW
⚔ @KronikFPS
⚔ @Rokit_OW
💉 @Lep_ow
💉 @LukeminoO
🧠 @Slippery_ow

#FearTheNTMR | #OWCS

X · May 3, 2025, 5:45 PM

[balmy wolf]

Mer1t is never seeing any playtime on falcons

Why would you need merit when stalker is just as good

Just another sirmjaed situation where talent gets wasted

[dreamy cave]

If you take the good pieces off the board. You don't have to worry about fighting them.

Yes I came from the shadows to say that.

Also to drop this meme

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-mei-overwatch-league-crunch-time-london-spitfire-gif-16266291

[torn portal]

the coaching losses is also really sucky

that’s actually tough

[static turret]

Dawg

If merit and someone go to falcons

Proper or stalker getting dropped

lol

I don’t think they can drop Majed bc he’s the Saudi mascot

I could be wrong tho

[cosmic socket]

rip stage 1 ntmr

may they find an org soon

[glass sleet]

Don’t fucking insult stalker like that.

Show some respect

[glass sleet]

Which is probably the dumbest thing you can do

I rather play with no tank than drop either dps

[glass sleet]

Wait till he learns Korean. He’ll be the starter over fielder.

He’s just not playing cuz of communication.

Trust

[static pond]

We haven’t seen merlt play in like a year tbf

[mortal cipher]

thats a rip

[mortal cipher]

honestly going T1 or a lesser team if he wants playtime or a team not in Korea

[static pond]

https://x.com/falconsesport/status/1918754991189180694?s=46

Falcons Esports (@FalconsEsport) on X

TWO. UNSTOPPABLE. FALCONS 🦅⚡️

Introducing Our Newest Overwatch Titans!

@someone0424 x @MER1T_ow

#FalconsAreHere

X · May 3, 2025, 7:50 PM

So like who the starter

Stalker merlt? Or proper merlt

[static turret]

https://x.com/owbrain1/status/1918757317719253382?s=46

برين 🧠 (@owBrain1) on X

للاسف الشديد 😓❌

• بعد دخولهم، سير ماجد ماراح يكون مسجّل مع الفريق في البطولات القادمة لأن الفريق لازم يتكوّن من 7 لاعبين فقط كحد أقصى 🔒

X · May 3, 2025, 7:59 PM

[mental vine]

Let’s gooooo XD

[static turret]

Stalker proper

[static pond]

I meant if merlt was sub in

[static turret]

Ngl

He won’t be

Unless vs bad teams

[static pond]

Gonna be interesting to see someone

He put mid performance against junbin and max when he wast counter switching

[static pond]

Prob was a package deal

[mental vine]

Falcons comeback? Lmfao

[static turret]

Comeback? They constantly place top 2

[mental vine]

I mean comeback for the trophy for Midseason AND world finals?

[static pond]

Ewc?

[mental vine]

Ya

The one in Saudi Arabia

And Stockholm

[static pond]

Ah

[undone hound]

I get the Someone signing. but why Mer1t when you have Stalker and Proper

[cosmic socket]

oh my god they got someone

[static pond]

Prob a package deal

[cosmic socket]

falcons are legit gonna be unstoppable now

[undone hound]

they can finally play dive tho no more Mauga cheese

[static pond]

To sign one you have to get both

[cosmic socket]

like thats so good for them

merits prolly not getting any playtime

stalker proper too good

[undone hound]

I still think CR is a better dive team. but Falcons are way more flexible

Hanbin and Somone are very flexible so are Proper and Stalker

[cosmic socket]

exactly

no more hanbinston

[undone hound]

I will miss HANBISTON ngl

btw how's Someone on Ball?

[cosmic socket]

i think fine

not his best hero but serviceable

standard mt ball

[static turret]

No

[mortal cipher]

Mer1t is never seeing playtime unlike last year where Happy actually played

[undone hound]

as a CR I'm both nervous and excited for the next CR VS Falcons

[cosmic socket]

signing someone makes falcons significantly better against cr

gibraltar is no longer a free map for cr

[undone hound]

its like they have Smurf back

[cosmic socket]

btw i called the someone sign like months ago

[static turret]

Everyone did

..

[static pond]

It was leaked already

[cosmic socket]

oh i didnt seen any of that

i just gut feelinged it

[hybrid hollow]

The whole reason they were rule booked is bc they tried to go to falcons lol

[static turret]

https://x.com/owbrain1/status/1918757317719253382?s=46

برين 🧠 (@owBrain1) on X

للاسف الشديد 😓❌

• بعد دخولهم، سير ماجد ماراح يكون مسجّل مع الفريق في البطولات القادمة لأن الفريق لازم يتكوّن من 7 لاعبين فقط كحد أقصى 🔒

X · May 3, 2025, 7:59 PM

Wrong thing

[static pond]

Ye he still sign with when on contract just not registered

Wasting his talent imo

[undone hound]

true what a waste

[mild valley]

What's the point of having 3 DPS?

Does that mean their tank gets replaced too with the other guy

[hybrid hollow]

Someone doesn't join any team without merit

And falcons really need someone

[glass sleet]

This doesn’t address having merit proper and stalker on the same team

Merit is such a Kai fr

[glass sleet]

I’d pick up donghak and say “fy someone and merit”

I don’t get it

Is merit gonna be the next happy or is he actually gonna take Stalk3r’s place? Suck a downgrade honestly.

[hybrid hollow]

I mean donghak probably doesn't wanna leave t1 plus why would u not get someone over him

It's not like ur forced to play merit

Just bench the guy

[glass sleet]

Someone is being dragged from by merit

[hybrid hollow]

Not really

[glass sleet]

And benching merit? Just kick him. Someone needs to grow up.

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah but everyone does this

Chiyo and fielder

Kai and Kev

Rupal vega

Ppl have duos

[glass sleet]

I get this. They’re good. Kai and kev are bad duo

We SEE how it’s effecting their performance

[glass sleet]

And they don’t work! So why are they still sticking to it? I bet if orgs actually wanna separate them, they could.

[hybrid hollow]

They don't work yet they clearly have

Like what

[glass sleet]

Orgs need to start a pack between orgs. Anyone that wants to duo gets fucked

Thoughts?

[glass sleet]

Kev kai? Dafuq

Work my ass

Rupal Vega? They didn’t qualify and Vega is a feeder

Dragging rupal down

Are we even watching the same esport?

A MS that’s only good on illary is wild

[hybrid hollow]

Rupal played like shit this season lol

[glass sleet]

Ah

Nvm then

Yay someone and merit

[wet bay]

Sirmajed noooo 😭

[wet bay]

Maybe he gets some play in a hard hitscan meta you never know

[glass sleet]

But even than stalker would be better?

My reasoning: Quartz differ merit, and stalker diffed Quartz

[wet bay]

Maybe yeah. Can't blame someone for wanting to play with his friend though. And it's no different than Majed

[glass sleet]

On widow

[weary scarab]

they most likely did the kev kai thing with someone and merit

[wet bay]

Also

Good sub for sickness or whatever

[glass sleet]

But even tho it was very little that happened. Sirmajed played double flex. You gonna have double hs?

[wet bay]

He'll probably just be on the bench a lot

But who cares

[hybrid hollow]

Literally

It's not like the universe is forcing u to play merit

Just let the guy collect his check

[glass sleet]

I mean ofc let him play and see how he does before benching him

[glass sleet]

What if someone demands it?

[hybrid hollow]

Plus every off season it feels like falcons are one bad argument away from imploding

[glass sleet]

“How dare you bench my homie?”

[glass sleet]

Wtf is the glue keeping them together

[hybrid hollow]

money and winning

[glass sleet]

Strong glue jeez

[torn portal]

Would i be insane to say that there’s a world where he gets playtime

[glass sleet]

If happy gets playtime then I sure can see merit getting some too

[torn portal]

widow he’s probably better than both just like happy

and likeee

[glass sleet]

No

You don’t remember Stockholm?

Quartz was diffing merit on widow and stalker was diffing Quartz

[torn portal]

idk

i thinks merit and someone will be much better

[glass sleet]

Sure, give him a chance before benching him. He might show up.

[glass sleet]

Compared?

[torn portal]

i think there is a world where stalk3r and proper are being rotated for fdps hot take

also

tons of double flex

but yea

mer1t and someone synergy

[glass sleet]

Very hot take imo

I’ll quit cheering for falcons if merit starts over stalker

[torn portal]

happy never was impressing me i think at the minimum

it will be more than that

[glass sleet]

I’ll switch to T1 if they bench stalker

[torn portal]

i don’t think it’s that unlikely that mer1t could just lock in

[hybrid hollow]

I mean proper is ur franchise player unfortunately if you had to bench anyone for merit it'll be stalker fr

[glass sleet]

Smh so dumb

Unfair

World is cruel

[torn portal]

mer1t’s best hero is sojourn by a mile btw

[glass sleet]

Quartz better

[torn portal]

👀

[torn portal]

when did they mirror soj

[glass sleet]

Lbbd7 better sheee I said it

[hybrid hollow]

If soj is still meta then merit probably does bench stalker

[torn portal]

this

[glass sleet]

No it’s just Quartz was pooping off on soj so fucking hard during OWWC and stage 1 last year

[torn portal]

Mer1t was him in owl and that synergy with someone will stay

[hybrid hollow]

If you're gonna play the guy it's 100% for soj

[torn portal]

And n toronto

[glass sleet]

I’d still wouldn’t

[hybrid hollow]

Plus merit isn't under casores anymore

[glass sleet]

Cuz stalker is fucking him

[hybrid hollow]

Casores is actually the issue lowkey

[torn portal]

Danny theory was the real carry

[glass sleet]

“Play flex”
“Sorry I soj only”
“Gg”

[hybrid hollow]

Infekted went from best in the west to sum white kid on the street the moment he plays under casores

[torn portal]

I think in a korean environment with that competition someone and mer1t will impress

[glass sleet]

Good point

[torn portal]

They will actually get better

[glass sleet]

Idk maaaaaan

[torn portal]

No stagnating they will pull themselves higher

[hybrid hollow]

Tr33 went from na proper to "well I guess that guy is pretty good"

[glass sleet]

It’s hard to accept the goat getting bench for a hs loser

[torn portal]

Zeruhh no 💔💔

[torn portal]

Like the toronto hate is insane

[hybrid hollow]

Wait is zeruhh confirmed on liquid

[glass sleet]

Zeruhh went to TL?

[torn portal]

no im just worried for the lad

[hybrid hollow]

have not looked at any of the rosters besides falcons

[glass sleet]

I don’t hate TD

[hybrid hollow]

And simple to tm

[glass sleet]

wtf

And KSAA

Still no second Korean

Weird

[torn portal]

Is t1 final then

I assumed they’d be getting some upgrade

[glass sleet]

They got vigilante

[torn portal]

something on top of that

stalk3r to t1 👀

[glass sleet]

What else is there tho

[glass sleet]

Proud stalker? Sick dps line

Bench viper and zest

[torn portal]

I just don’t know what to do with those two

[glass sleet]

Like why both

[torn portal]

just fine

[glass sleet]

Keep zest

[torn portal]

who is ssg signing

has to be hawk or scissors right

[mortal cipher]

they already have them as subs

[torn portal]

neither signed tho right

[mortal cipher]

they are as a technical

[cosmic socket]

went from best in the west to mauga merchant in like a month

i do think there are lot of factors with liquid tho

not just "oh this one guy is ass"

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[cosmic socket]

that last week of na stage 1 was infuriating

like he can play so much stuff but he wouldnt get off mauga

like why

[mortal cipher]

ye

[viscid hatch]

Maybe chorong for chiyo

Anyone else taking stalker over proper?

[sacred gulch]

I feel like viol2t could main supp too

[wet seal]

This is a joke right

[sacred gulch]

no

[viscid hatch]

Bruh

[sacred gulch]

its not that farfetched

[viscid hatch]

They don’t need him I don’t think

[wet seal]

Yes it is there’s 5 Korean players they could replace lip with that would be better than lethal

[viscid hatch]

Yeah

[sacred gulch]

but are they absolutely better than lethal

[wet seal]

Yes

[viscid hatch]

Next year cr might poach proud

Lip and shu will most likely be gone

At least one of them

This is his 7th year in the highest level somehow

[sacred gulch]

idk we’ll see

think more likely lip

[wet bay]

Proud Maka

Would be fire

[wet bay]

I feel like Chiyo is just better on Lucio and Chorong on Brig

Also yeah stalker is clearly better than proper atp

Maybe proper better on genji reaper and a few other but stalker is just a different level

[wet bay]

Not even worth it unless he's clearly better in scrims and Soj is like hard meta

Stalker can play up to that level and has infinite flexibility

Idk we will see ig. Not like there hasn't been weird coaching decisions on falcons before.

[viscid hatch]

Totally agree with you, I just feel that the gap between their lucio and brig prowess is significantly lower than the gap between their flexibility, so I would take chorong

[viscid hatch]

😂

[wet bay]

Yeah that's true chorong can do the zen and Kiri.

Though the one time I saw Chiyo on Kiri

Why was he just casually getting 3k every fight

I don't remember the game but it was some kings row

[viscid hatch]

I remember

Against cr

Chorong also has the weaver

[robust patio]

shu doing a madness 2v5

[wet bay]

Do the real ntmr just have a better org now or something

[torn portal]

that’s what i’m saying tho i think mer1t will be back

in scrims

[static turret]

We don’t know yet

Allegedly Zeruhh is going to liquid

The isu core replaced him with wmai

[cosmic socket]

picking up zeruhh is actually the play for tl

try and nab admiral too

best western team possible

[static turret]

I think they keep Vega

Vega Rupal synergy

Although UV admiral is better imo

Unless Rupal has a demon stage 2

[cosmic socket]

true

vega been getting heat but rupal aint been it either

just an even more chungus support to hide behind

[static turret]

I think they keep knife Zeruhh tr33

Zeruhh is a demon on Genji tracer but that’s it

Knife is way more flexible and tr33 can flex aswell

[cosmic socket]

tr33 dont get enough credit

[static turret]

Keeping all 3 for all possible metas

Sojurn/genji

Mei/reaper

Some weird shit

Torb/sym

[cosmic socket]

i feel like youre running zeruhh 90% of the time

[static turret]

In this meta yea

But what if you get a similar meta to the Stockholm meta

[cosmic socket]

and the thing is that tr33 can also play flex

[static turret]

And you need like mei reaper or something

Or a random venture meta

[cosmic socket]

fair

knife the venture goat

[static turret]

Zeruhh is arguably the best na fdps rn but he only really excels super far on Genji tracer and i think you need a phara/mei/venture type player

[static turret]

Bro do not gaf about his teams space

[hybrid hollow]

Letting the aura spread

I changed my alt name

GuxueFanboy is no more

[static turret]

You realized they are never making top 2?

🙏

[hybrid hollow]

Nah I just don't play tank

[static turret]

Gg

[hybrid hollow]

Had to make it a support player

[cosmic socket]

uvfanboy

surey

[static turret]

Fielder ?

Maybe even uhh

[hybrid hollow]

You'll see

[static turret]

Skewed

[static turret]

Duo in like 2wks

[hybrid hollow]

He was on the board

[cosmic socket]

wait

koncrete back on overwatch?

[hybrid hollow]

Yea

[cosmic socket]

surely you got a pc

and not a new console

[hybrid hollow]

You got money for tht?

[static turret]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[cosmic socket]

new gen consoles are hella expensive

[static turret]

?

[cosmic socket]

legit might as well get a pc

[torn portal]

he’s carrying me on dps

[static turret]

Aren’t they only like 400-500?

[cosmic socket]

also ow can run on a potato

i know from experience

[torn portal]

new prices with tariffs kon got in at the perfect time

lol

[hybrid hollow]

Mines was barely over 300 after tax

[cosmic socket]

300 for a newgen??

[torn portal]

$80 more expensive now

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah

[cosmic socket]

damn nvm

that aint that bad

[torn portal]

“newgen” its powerful but its notably weaker

no 4k and can’t run 120fps on every game

like cod and marvel rivals

[hybrid hollow]

Good thing I don't need either

[torn portal]

but ow2 is peak

[hybrid hollow]

what is this queue

Console diamond has no players gg

[torn portal]

nvm

[hybrid hollow]

Nvm

[torn portal]

lol

[static turret]

600$ fora console in the big 25

[torn portal]

yeah that’s my support line in gib

[static turret]

You need a ana demon

[torn portal]

moira mercy preferred heroes

locked

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-trying-to-not-laugh-speed-holding-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-laugh-gif-242565803459391828

[static turret]

Is kon not on support

[hybrid hollow]

Nope

[cosmic socket]

who you think is the moira

[static turret]

Yikes

Kon off support

Game was cooked to begin with

[torn portal]

wait he’s fine on soj

[static turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011995988300410890/1294814631243550831/twitter_1845241176879673532.gif

[torn portal]

he got a 4k on sojourn. also he renamed his guxuefanboy account to viol2t i think

[hybrid hollow]

They always hate when you up

[static turret]

Aim assist

[robust patio]

@torn portal @cosmic socket @sullen berry @weary scarab Someone

went to Falcons

bro told me

https://x.com/someone0424/status/1918844360998682873?s=46

Someone (@someone0424) on X

It’s time to show and prove myself again.
우승하겠습니다 응원 많이 해주세요👊

X · May 4, 2025, 1:45 AM

and he posted

with merit

cr vs falcons gonna be more fun

more absolute cinema

[torn portal]

this was lik hours ago 4 me lol

hype tho

[cosmic socket]

yeah lol

super good for falcons

cant just take them to a dive map and win

(if youre cr)

unfortunately merits taking on majeds legacy of benchwarming

[robust patio]

[torn portal]

u think merit will play a happy role in flcn

maybe more maybe less

it just gets harder and harder to bench those two

[robust patio]

merit is washed tbh

tbh even if merit is still his lvl

i still dont see a reason to bench properstalke

r

[torn portal]

wait whosss that winston benching the lobby

[robust patio]

wannabelip

[sullen berry]

It's all people have been talking about, so basically nothing changed

Someone AND mer1t could have changed at any point throughout the past 5 months and didn't

Falcons someone Mer1t buff is going to be so good, can't wait for their first loss to old ocean

[robust patio]

fr

[desert fractal]

holy shit mer1t and someone to falcons

oh my god

[robust patio]

basically falcon became a full korean team now

since majed left

[mortal cipher]

ye

[viscid hatch]

Imagine 6v6 comes back and we get to see Peaker Peakness with someone Hanbin vs Junbin max

[crimson idol]

They really said we're fed up with losing at champions clash

holyyyyy

[weak frost]

what am I seeing

[storm falcon]

Seicoe changed roles

Irony left

Question: who do y'all think are better
2023 owl top teams or current owcs top teams?

[deft marlin]

So who's gonna pick up NTMR core?

[deft marlin]

Besides CR and FLC I'd say top 2023 owl teams

[storm falcon]

Cr and flc vs atl reign and Florida meyaham

[hybrid hollow]

Owl teams are better

[deft marlin]

You can't convince me any OWCS teams besides CR and FLC are beating 2023 Florida, Boston, Houston, Spark, Reign

[hybrid hollow]

Like atl with current donghak?

That team is too good

[deft marlin]

Realistically does any team in history beat 2021 Dragons? Like even if you added a 6th player to CR or FLC for a 6v6 match, could they even beat that 2021 squad?

Looking back that shit was so fucking stacked😭

[hybrid hollow]

Maybe prime shock

[deft marlin]

nah no way😭

[hybrid hollow]

Idk choi smurf vs fate void

[deft marlin]

2019 Shock are getting SWEPT by 2021 dragons

[hybrid hollow]

nah

[deft marlin]

i promise you dawg

[hybrid hollow]

Way better backline

Fate is worse than Smurf on everything that isn't ball

[deft marlin]

moth and viol2t or viol2t and twiligh?

[hybrid hollow]

choi and void are probably neck and neck

[hybrid hollow]

Moth viol2t

[deft marlin]

Kinda have to disagree then

put some repspect on the leejaegon izayaki backline

[hybrid hollow]

I mean they were great

[deft marlin]

the brig zen was LEGENDARY

[hybrid hollow]

But I think in 2019-2020 moth viol2t were the best backline in the league

And if moth didn't leave they still would've been

[deft marlin]

didn't moth only play mercy and lucio?

[hybrid hollow]

I mean he could play brig just never needed to all that often

He was next to viol2t and skewed

He also played some bap

[deft marlin]

On the shock?

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah

[deft marlin]

What was viol2t playing when moth played bap?

[hybrid hollow]

when they played bap brig he was on the bap

[hybrid hollow]

brig

[deft marlin]

That seems like a horrible coaching decision

[hybrid hollow]

Idk he was fine on it

And viol2t had one of the best brigs

[deft marlin]

Better than Viol2t tho?

[hybrid hollow]

iirc they played both

like if you're gonna play bap brig/zen viol2t has to start brig so he can swap

[deft marlin]

in that case yes

[hybrid hollow]

Either way I still got moth viol2t over izayaki ljg

Shanghai has the better dps line tho 100%

[deft marlin]

Crazy take ngl

finna post this to owcs hot takes on twitter

[hybrid hollow]

aye man

Ppl remember the Shanghai storyline more so ppl think they were uncontestable that season

[mortal cipher]

The backline was good if it wasn’t they wouldn’t be nearly as dominant as they were sure they look at the DPS but if it wasn’t for the tank and backline they wouldn’t have won

[hybrid hollow]

I mean yeah ljg izayaki is still top 3 backlines of all time

Just not over moth viol2t for me

[mortal cipher]

Yeah without that backline it wouldn’t be as dominant but Violet is Violet so obv he’s more favorable because 2x

[mortal cipher]

Understandable

[last kelp]

the current VEC crew is where its at

New Korea champs

[glass sleet]

Proper stalker hanbin fielder chiyo
Or
Lip stalker donghak fielder chiyo

[hybrid hollow]

Comes down to the meta honestly

[glass sleet]

Ntmr already announced their new roster. They’re basically the timeless roster. A downgrade unfortunately. The ntmr players tho haven’t been announced for anything as far as I know.

[glass sleet]

I mean you wouldn’t be mad at either roster tbh

Stacked

BRO thought roster lock was yesterday!? Where my NTMR BOYS AT!?

[torn portal]

that would be my alt

[inland gale]

Im bored

[steel schooner]

Hi bored

[cosmic socket]

im sure real ntmr just found a better org

[glass sleet]

Might be a new org too cuz of EWC

[inland gale]

Fuck you

[steel schooner]

well excuse you

[inland gale]

sorry

[steel schooner]

..alg gng

[inland gale]

sybau ts pmo sb ycbr omg wyyl btw

[viscid hatch]

Kevester

[static turret]

Cooked

Fixa Scottish

[glass sleet]

He changed so he doesn’t count as an import

🧠

[glass sleet]

These rosters are so weird. Especially TM’s

TVNT and KSAA on the same roster? They play the same exact heroes.

[mortal cipher]

ah yes my favorite Scot support Fixa

[cosmic socket]

whoru xzodyal dps line could go really far

[hazy marsh]

why is it all fucked up

kevester, engoisom, skockwave?

[glass sleet]

They’re not same team

Oh you mean the spelling lol

[hazy marsh]

yeah

[robust patio]

heesung + twilight

sheesh

[vale cobalt]

i know yoham

played scrim against him

[vale cobalt]

"KEVESTER"

👀 kevster and twilight same team holy shit

[glass sleet]

They played stage 1. Is this new to you?

[vale cobalt]

yes im very behind

[glass sleet]

Awesome

[wet seal]

Chase gone?

[vale cobalt]

chasetorchhhhh

[sullen berry]

Scockwave

[wise orbit]

bro who wrote ts

[wet seal]

How good is majed compared to like rupal, Landon or gala

lowkey forgot he hasn’t played for so long

[cosmic socket]

alphayi ms confirmed

[inland gale]

Guys

Guess what

Nothing

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[robust patio]

ryu why cant u just retire like jjonak 😭

[robust patio]

he is washed now

more benched forever now

[torn portal]

i feel like if you showed the team falcons roster to a viewer in 2023 they would implode

[wet bay]

The goat Heesung 🙏

Rest in peace Hadi though

[wet bay]

I'm a fan of this tbh

Fuck Vindi and Opener

Though it might turn out like the Fletank

[robust patio]

Mer1t when prime during 2023 owl GF winner

[deft marlin]

EDM roster is so funny bruh😭

[sullen berry]

love the zero advertising budget for Ryujehong, instead we have a KR correspondent sharing all the news currently available in Korea

bro posted on 4/20 in Korea LMAO https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1913583315480924466

진감 GINKAM (@ginkam0329) on X

🌊 Old Ocean is making a comeback for OWCS Korea Stage 2!

Ryujehong seemed to acknowledge the rumors during his recent stream, and it’s already been confirmed that some players have joined Old Ocean and started scrimming. 👀

With Ryujehong at the center—the iconic face of the

X · Apr 19, 2025, 1:19 PM

[weary scarab]

https://x.com/OWCEsports/status/1919385627864244568

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports) on X

ZETA DIVISION announce AlphaYi is changing role from Damage to Support ⚔️ → 💉

With Viol2t's departure from the team, @rlawns0740 steps up for @zetadivision.

X · May 5, 2025, 1:36 PM

[sullen berry]

and the ZETA DIVISION budget is officially spiralling down the drain in Korea

[worn falcon]

Can't afford viol2t

[wet bay]

At least they still there

FTG just got a sponsor lost their whole team and got removed 😭 crazy

I'm a big fan of the Alphayi support though he's gonna cook trust

[static turret]

P sure he left

Didn’t wanna military

[torn portal]

gapped by pge ^

[torn portal]

i believe in miracles

[mortal cipher]

Kinda figured after no support signing

Peli Flora seemed to be the case anyway after awhile

[vale cobalt]

L

bro someone and merit joined falcons

wtf

[glass sleet]

Watch him actually be a better sub than that inting madman

[mortal cipher]

Falcons locking T1 and anyone else out of competitition specifically T1

[vale cobalt]

bro im watching shu pov

hes not doing any dmg and missing and shit but bros living

on kiri

not doing unnecessary stuff

very good

[torn portal]

surely donghak won’t be cursed again stage 2 right

beating zeta is so winnable now

in general korea just got a lil weaker

except for the top 2

[mortal cipher]

I think Outside of Opener T1 was fine

[static pond]

Gg to zeta

[mortal cipher]

fr

[glass sleet]

He’s just the best

[glass sleet]

How did Korea get weaker exactly?

[torn portal]

ftg looks to be dead

way lost a lot

zeta lost a lot

[glass sleet]

Zeta didn’t lose anything

[torn portal]

?

[cosmic socket]

viol2t

[glass sleet]

And T1 is stronger. Korea didn’t drop in level

[torn portal]

alphayi meme aside is not a good main support

[cosmic socket]

gg koreas just falcons v cr again

[torn portal]

deadass

[glass sleet]

Did you watch the games alphayi played instead of violet?

[torn portal]

it’ll be top 3 t1 now

i think

[cosmic socket]

it never really wasnt but i could dream a lil bit in stage 1

[torn portal]

he wasn’t good

[glass sleet]

He was just as good as the violet feeder.

[torn portal]

if we are deadass

[glass sleet]

The fact they decided to keep his as support instead of getting leesoomin shows

[torn portal]

alphayi is much worse than viol2t

[glass sleet]

He’s not

[torn portal]

and zeta is much worse with off role alphayi

[glass sleet]

He didn’t Ajax more either

[torn portal]

that’s not everything lucio does

and what about brig

[glass sleet]

That’s everything violet does tho

[torn portal]

he was

incredible

on brig

if we are real

[glass sleet]

Bro ajaxes 3 a series on avg

[torn portal]

losing their juno brig is heartbreaking

as a zeta fan

[glass sleet]

We’ll see

I don’t think Viol2t was that good

[torn portal]

it’s fun to hate on viol2t but he is good

[glass sleet]

He costs them so many games too

[torn portal]

but his value

was still immense

[glass sleet]

I’m not hating. You can’t disregard every opinion as “hating on”

[torn portal]

i can a little cus you only see his lucio

he is more than his lucio

if we did that then vega is just as shit

[glass sleet]

Why? Do I not watch their games?

[torn portal]

you only spoke about his lucio buddy

[glass sleet]

Am I blind and only see green apparently

[torn portal]

and alphayi won’t meet viol2t’s lucio brig flex support

[glass sleet]

“He’s not that good”
“Ah he be talking about Lucio only surely”

?

Dafuq

[torn portal]

is viol2t a bad brig

[glass sleet]

Mid

[torn portal]

delusion

[glass sleet]

Has a lot of stupid plays

[glass sleet]

Ok whatever

[torn portal]

@static turret zeta glazer i need you

[glass sleet]

You’re right

[static turret]

Greetings

[torn portal]

he’s saying that zeta won’t be much weaker

like i swear viol2t brig and kiri was very good

[static turret]

Well

Their best dps is on support

[torn portal]

exactly

[static turret]

They have no real ms

Pelican flora Bernar prob carry them top 4 still

[torn portal]

i don’t think alphayi can possible be enough of an upgrade even if he’s technically more consistent then vi

[static turret]

But idk cus word is alpahyi support is secretly demon

[torn portal]

not enough of the upside

[static turret]

Alpahyi just doesn’t ajax but he takes light years to build a beat

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/giantomelette/status/1919180415329317262?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

Lionel (@GiantOmelette) on X

Okay. Here is my Team Falcons/Crazy Raccoon yaoi fan art.

X · May 5, 2025, 12:00 AM

[static turret]

If we’re going off his past performance he’s just gonna play passive

Also we have 0 clue how his brig is

[sacred gulch]

so is viol2t on a team

[static turret]

Vision I think

[torn portal]

faceit saudi org

[sacred gulch]

guess we see how that goes

[torn portal]

not even an owcs team

[static turret]

Alpahyi been practicing to

Tho

[sacred gulch]

it doesnt look like cr is making roster changes

i thought military service was hitting

[torn portal]

so did fleta… 👁️

[static turret]

He’s gonna lock in

[vale cobalt]

ew

hes main sup tho not even ana

how will it work

[sacred gulch]

pretty much mostly lucio brig right

prob moira if kiri moira comp

[vale cobalt]

moira 🤣

[robust patio]

tbh hes better than violet now

[torn portal]

https://x.com/dhillducks/status/1919490994623385975?s=46

DhillDucks (@DhillDucks) on X

Welcome “DhillKucks” (PENDING CAH APPROVAL) to the DhillDucks’ flock

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🔫@SnailMailLuvr
🔫@peace7k
⛑️@cinnabarow
⛑️@zzz_ow_

📚@d7bit
🧠@cjayow

#DHILLDUCKSWRLD #ForDebit #BusinessMeetingAtTheLampentPartyWentWell

X · May 5, 2025, 8:34 PM

goat team

[torn portal]

zeta’s best dps and top 5 tracer itw on lucio

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-trying-to-not-laugh-speed-holding-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-laugh-gif-242565803459391828

[sacred gulch]

?

[vale cobalt]

when is this

[vale cobalt]

cjay??? lucio???

[torn portal]

cjay is coach actually

[vale cobalt]

i knowww thats what km sayinggg

the lucio guy is the brainnn

[torn portal]

he doesn’t play lucio…

[static turret]

Player and coach ?

[vale cobalt]

ah hes anaaaaa

[hybrid hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/goonicide-reverse-goonicide-reverse-reverse-goonicide-goon-gif-1553856178782364507

[hybrid hollow]

Before yk it he's gonna take unters job

[static turret]

We know that was you

[hybrid hollow]

Im still alive

I wouldn't never kms after a failed goon

[sick spindle]

Alphayi.. on Lucio? Since when

[static turret]

?

[hybrid hollow]

Since viol2t took the Saudi check

[cosmic socket]

i know who zeta should sign

[sacred gulch]

ive been warned for less wtf

[hybrid hollow]

Mods don't check this chat

Plus the ghost of the goon is just sum casual brainrot

[sacred gulch]

hes still naked lol

[vale cobalt]

i got warned and muted for so many times you'll be fine

[mortal cipher]

lol

[sacred gulch]

did they ever say why cr didnt roster change?

i thought military service came knocking and specifically lip/shu delayed for too long?

[static pond]

There not till next year

[sacred gulch]

ah ok

[robust patio]

when violet was sick lol

[robust patio]

when violet was sick

yall don’t realize alphayi on lucio was insane

[vale cobalt]

lololol

[torn portal]

@minor robin https://x.com/infektedow/status/1919582260115734693?s=46

TL Infekted (@InfektedOW) on X

Shoutout @VegaOverwatch for making me lose my voice

X · May 6, 2025, 2:37 AM

laughing for the past five minutes

[hybrid hollow]

Does this mean he's gonna be locked in this stage orrrrr

Do the primals get better when u hit puberty

[torn portal]

god willing

maybe he’ll have the balls to actually pick that hero

swear he played like 2 maps of monkey last stage

[cosmic socket]

is he man enough to get off mauga now

[sacred gulch]

https://x.com/bagelofthepizza/status/1919402696789946549

PizzaBagel (@bagelofthepizza) on X

Top 5 tracer player? Yeah put that boy on lucio

X · May 5, 2025, 2:43 PM

[robust patio]

[mortal cipher]

it was funny how they about beat falcons with off roleing Lucio

[robust patio]

fr

[gaunt ocean]

Yoooo question. Do yall know any players that play Hanzo/genji

[static turret]

Duo twin

Tmmr

https://tenor.com/view/adams-basketball-shooting-shot-gif-16857071

[sullen berry]

Jinmu plays a solid pharah genji, youll get the rare hanzo on some very old chengdu hunters games when they require double sniper comps

But good ones in 2025? Hmm

[sacred gulch]

yeah idk last time we've seen hanzo

[sullen berry]

@gaunt ocean sugarbron james

https://youtu.be/pCoh9TedSMs?si=iL2XiASnoDuEjj4K

[vale cobalt]

dam

[sullen berry]

It'll probably be anyone not currently in OWCS, anyways.

Even Arrge for hanzo content moved on to MR

[sacred gulch]

i was wondering why i wasnt hearing the monthly "arrge is just a plat player now"

[gaunt ocean]

Mhmm yea I figured I’m a predominately Hanzo genji main and I wanted a pro player I could watch off to base my play

[sacred gulch]

genji is much easier

[gaunt ocean]

But there aren’t really much top notch Hanzo content creators or people players

[sacred gulch]

pretty much all the good flex dps play genji

[gaunt ocean]

Ik I like both

Yeaaaa maybe I gotta play genji more and play hanzo less 😭

[sacred gulch]

hanzos fine in the current meta ladder wise

at the highest ceiling he surpasses widow

he has a oneshot regardless of range

[gaunt ocean]

He is fr, idk I guess I’ve just been feeling lost in my play 🤔 biggggg loss streak

[sacred gulch]

well he is still very hard to play

[gaunt ocean]

And I wanted to reevaluate my play yk. I guess I could just watch old videoes

I’m not shit w him, just wanna be more consistent

[gaunt ocean]

But tru

[sacred gulch]

i recommend aim training and working on your predictions

then after that is knowing what angles to take as him and where you should and shouldnt be in fights

[gaunt ocean]

Yea I might have to spend the summer doin that

[gaunt ocean]

Mhmm mhmm 🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

I’ll think that in mind

[static turret]

Stalker during Asia playoffs

Vs cr

It was so good they had to ban it

[sacred gulch]

crazy

[sullen berry]

Try (as hard as it might be) to watch POV gameplay, it won't directly help your gameplay but knowing how people engage and the outcomes are more important than how much a hero buff/nerf does to your genji and hanzo (aka don't force hanzo if the team comps are just going to get you faster)

[gaunt ocean]

Yeaaaa that’s true

[sullen berry]

https://youtu.be/_amKn1qIhsM?si=K3wXBmrn5_1V5cQ4

Same goes for a really bad genji

This was the first player's POV that I learned so much about positioning and how good out of game coaching helps, you will never get this in your actual games but the synergy is so good

[robust patio]

stalk3r

[gaunt ocean]

For which character?

[robust patio]

he plays every hero to s+ tier

[robust patio]

https://youtu.be/S0P7drASOck?si=EVKslw6toHYQHtZg

[robust patio]

top 5 Best dps rn is

Heesang
Lip
Stalk3r
Proper
Leave

[gaunt ocean]

How many of them are flex it seems like stalk3r and proper

[robust patio]

heesang stalker proper

[gaunt ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

I’ll keep that in mind

[inland gale]

Save eldia

[vale cobalt]

shyyyyy

[torn portal]

all of them but lip

lip only goat hitscans atm

[weak frost]

his tracer is good too tbf

[mortal cipher]

honestly

[weary scarab]

https://x.com/flareEsportGG/status/1919480890972856795

Flare Esport (@flareEsportGG) on X

لتعزيز صفوفنا في لعبة OVERWATCH
وزيادة الحماس والإثارة 🧡🦅

رحبوا معنا بأبطالنا الجدد ⚔️
@_rercy
@1heartly

💼 | @realbar01
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ترقبوا قوة دخولنا بالدوري ونوعدكم
بالصدارة والتفوق وترقبوا القادم 🛡️

#...

X · May 5, 2025, 7:54 PM

[robust patio]

never heard of any of them

[weary scarab]

yeah same just wonder wtf that picture is lol

[glass sleet]

Wtf

Black mercy?

[glass sleet]

Stalker, lip, proper, heesang, leave. In that order.

[robust patio]

stalker gotta prove it this may

until now its lip dominance

[glass sleet]

Dafuq? He’s been top dps the past two years even when his team is not performing.

Sure lip won more cuz he’s just on the better team but we talking about individual performance and skill. Stalker is always top3 in whatever hero he’s on. Most flexible dps and that’s a massive skill.

[robust patio]

tbh falcon and cr are both equal if we talking about who the better team is

and stalker and lip are reign besties so they always duo ranked together

tbh id say they are equal

[torn portal]

i mean who won stolkholm

it’s close tho

[vale cobalt]

RERCY 🤣

[mortal cipher]

Since like 2021 or 2022

Probably stalker is gonna be the next Dominant because we won’t have for much longer

[edgy knoll]

does anyone still have their dallas major attendee codes???

[wet bay]

Alt tab was acquired by onside gaming

https://x.com/ONSIDE_GAMING/status/1919766720774123676?t=b7nbOYTgv1lwlTomZ9Fv0Q&s=19

ONSIDE GAMING (@ONSIDE_GAMING) on X

기다렸던 그 이름, 그 얼굴들.
이제 우리와 함께합니다.
온사이드와 새로운 이야기를 써봐요 ✊ #OWCS
Team Alt Tab이 온사이드 게이밍과 함께하게 되었습니다!

The squad you've been waiting for—ONSIDE is ready.
Let’s make story together. 💥 #OWCS
Team Alt Tab is now joining forces with

X · May 6, 2025, 2:50 PM

[glass sleet]

I didn’t know I was waiting for that

Also, hey look, attack.

He’s still around.

[hybrid hollow]

Opener back to being the worst player on a team

[glass sleet]

No no.

Who’s the other support. Never heard of him.

I hope attack does well.

[hybrid hollow]

I think hes played for a team at some point in owcs

Maybe it was someone else

[glass sleet]

Is this a Korean team?

[hybrid hollow]

I'm not really sure definitely seen the name before tho

[glass sleet]

Yeah I’m lost

[hybrid hollow]

Maybe I just seen him in a random ladder game while watching Finn or something

[static turret]

Yea

He was in one of lips yt videos

But he has no official liq page so I have 0 clue if he’s played any pro

[glass sleet]

Gg

Opener and the new guy

And attack who had a bad year

[static turret]

I haven’t seen attack since nrg

[glass sleet]

Me neither

[static turret]

Also that’s ado

[glass sleet]

He should’ve joined TM

[static turret]

Shanghai ado

[glass sleet]

so they can have 3 off tanks

[static turret]

The 0-41 Shanghai

[static turret]

Aura tbh

[glass sleet]

Idk who ado is

Sorry

[static turret]

Some shit bun

[glass sleet]

Damn

So team is gonna flop badly

[glass sleet]

Oh apparently they also have Irony

F4ze too

[wet bay]

I mean Fearless was on Shanghai

Ado bout to shock the world

[glass sleet]

I believe

[wet bay]

F4ze is a coach now

And then irony just isn't listed at all on the onside twitter but wasn't he on alt tab

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

We getting some Shanghai redemption this year

[cosmic socket]

chat

how many games did majed play on falcons

like in total

[glass sleet]

10

I’m just throwing out a number

He definitely played way more up till Dallas but zero this stage

[static turret]

Honestly

Maybe like a solid 30

https://x.com/TUEsportGG/status/1919818642293768204

TU Esports (@TUEsportGG) on X

We’re excited to welcome @heesung69981132 to our Overwatch Roster 🐦‍🔥🔥

#VivaTU

X · May 6, 2025, 6:16 PM

[torn portal]

finally

[glass sleet]

Who

[wet bay]

That's crazy

[glass sleet]

12 mins and we see 100 men vs gorilla

[wet bay]

I wonder who is playing

Better be some hype casting

[glass sleet]

I just assumed bots

[fossil matrix]

Gorilla or soldiers? what are we thinking

[torn portal]

u don’t know heesung?

[glass sleet]

I know. He’s that guy that got benched after a few games for zeta.

He’s really good.

[torn portal]

and then was very good on ftg

[glass sleet]

Amazing

[torn portal]

a lil below way but overall good team

he wasn’t an issue

[glass sleet]

Would’ve won if it wasn’t for vindi’s shit beat

[torn portal]

no cap

[mortal cipher]

Probably

[cold pond]

any lip > proper believers here?

[spiral cradle]

Lip on hitscan sure but on flex dps I think proper wins it out

[static pond]

https://x.com/teamliquid/status/1919837378757243039?s=46

Team Liquid (@TeamLiquid) on X

When you see the killfeed light up… it’s already too late🌊

Playmaker, MVP, Flex DPS Menace.
Welcome @zeruhh7 to Team Liquid Overwatch.

We’re Scaling.
#LETSGOLIQUID #TeamLiquid25

X · May 6, 2025, 7:31 PM

https://x.com/onceagainow/status/1919564784342548541?s=46

WBG Overwatch (@OnceAgainOW) on X

📺 2025 Hangzhou Champions Clash VLOG 📺

Take a behind-the-scenes look at the team's experience competing in the 2025 OWCS Champions Clash!

🔗https://t.co/f4G5BYtWDY

X · May 6, 2025, 1:28 AM

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/joerogan-thugrose-knockout-gif-21306134

is knife ever getting played again

[mortal cipher]

who knows

[weary scarab]

eu is stacked stage 2

like 5 strong teams

[mortal cipher]

Hopefully

[vale cobalt]

GODXUE

[cosmic socket]

i feel like knifes only getting put in for like venture pharah

hes gonna be riding that bench hard

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

[wet bay]

He won 2 of the maps when Zeta beat Falcons stage 2 last year I remember

His first match was that series where Viol2t staggered on Colosseo bridge I think

That was too funny actual cash app player

[mortal cipher]

lol

[sullen berry]

Wasn't onside previously acquiring FTG, I took a few days off keeping up

[vernal shoal]

Yo lowkey scissors can actually play in stage 2

since he can take zeruhh's spot

[mortal cipher]

FTG got aquired by Onside which considering they didnt have enough pplayers Alt Tab got taken by Onside instead

[hybrid hollow]

Erm

1 different teams

2 that entire ntmr team left ntmr

[vernal shoal]

yeah but the team with cuffa dont gotta flex dps is what im sayin if u didnt get what I said the first time

@hybrid hollow

[hybrid hollow]

Cuffa is on a team?

besides ntmr picking up a new roster and zeruhh going to liquid I have not cared about na rosters ngl

[torn portal]

this is one possibility

don’t remember last time willy started

[static turret]

Ntmr cooked angle

[cosmic socket]

when you lowkey dont have the top fdps na anymore

[glass sleet]

Wmaimone is from EU but just like the ntmr roster, he’s in na for college.

So still 2 empty import slots

[robust patio]

yea, im sure stalker also gotta serve too

[vale cobalt]

how long is military

[robust patio]

army 18month navy 20month airforce 21month

[vale cobalt]

wtf

so after army ur career is kinda over?

army is like 6 months in some countries bro

[thorny gazelle]

those countries probably don't have a situation similar to korea

[vale cobalt]

what's the situation? war with north or like

[thorny gazelle]

Ye well the constant threat of it happening

[robust patio]

yea

[robust patio]

im in navy

so 20month

done 1year

so 8month left for me

[crimson idol]

theres been a signed armistice agreement but never a formal peace treaty

highkey dodged that bc i was born in america

dad never registered as married in korea

[vale cobalt]

dodged a bomb fr

[robust patio]

i have both korean and American citizenship

if u have an american citizenship, u dont really have to serve the korean army

however i served since korean passport is top2 powerful

[robust patio]

and i love traveling

[sullen berry]

travelling, eh? Love me a good road trip

[mortal cipher]

eventually ye

[cyan halo]

ow2 rfr available

[mortal cipher]

lol

[vale cobalt]

!!

[vale cobalt]

touching grass i see

[glass sleet]

Wow top 2 powerful? That’s so cool!

With great power comes great responsibility.

[wet bay]

Have you guys seen new commanderx

[glass sleet]

What does that mean?

[wet bay]

Commanderx new video

[glass sleet]

Ranking Korea?

[wet bay]

https://youtu.be/su-p3YZIDX4?si=A4_n-ii_kccRyyOX

[glass sleet]

Didn’t watch that

Busy watching chefs in kitchens

[hazy marsh]

oh no, someone made a soyjak meme out of this! Whatever will the scrimming diamond people do!

[wet bay]

This is the team I made

[hybrid hollow]

Seicoe is on tm right?

[wet bay]

Yeah

[hybrid hollow]

Will knife even start on liquid

Like I wanna put knife on my roster but idk if he starts

If he does it's a steal

[glass sleet]

You ran out of points?

Cuz wub is there

Bliss being 19 is a steal

[wet bay]

Yeah

I would've gotten Kevster but he's 25

I think Seicoe is just as good but it's probably better to bet on the same team as Heesung

And I think lbbd7 quartz were 25 too

[wet bay]

Was he good in stage 1

I didn't watch much NA

[hybrid hollow]

I mean he was fine but liquid overall were shit

I have hope tho this stage

This is what I went with but instead of knife it's wub

[wet bay]

I was considering knife but since they play ssg in week 1 I can't really bet on him

Maybe switch him and wub around if he is actually getting play after week 1

[cosmic socket]

vega truther nation rise up

[wet bay]

Ew

I wonder if haku will actually get play though I was surprised they kept him after getting kellex