once again
#esports-discussion
static turret
I hate the Toronto management
pure bramble
need a Someone comeback
static turret
2026 crazy racoons junbin max proud heesang uv chorong
torn portal
2026 crazy racoons junbin max proud heesang uv chorong
admiral uv actually
will become the best backline itw by then ^^
mortal cipher
gonna be weird when lip has to leave i completely forgot Lip would have to
Unless you are Faker
or other League players
robust patio
gonna be weird when lip has to leave i completely forgot Lip would have to
military next year
:(
static turret
@hybrid hollow why the tickets for Stockholm lowkey kinda cheap
mortal cipher
military next year
its gonna be weird and that would leave only WhoRu left of the Championship core outside of Molly but out of the 2020-2022 starting roster only Fleta would be left even if he just a coach
robust patio
<a:umjicry:658138662428475419>
cosmic socket
those eye bags
those are the eyebags of someone who just lost to a slop region team
mortal cipher
EXEMPT HIM
he is exempt and a few others because of the asian games
stray quarry
he is exempt and a few others because of the asian games
yea ik
get lip in there too 💔
do you think lip can figure skate 💔 💔
inland gale
Dead chat
robust patio
cr best team hands down
rugged quest
X
static turret
https://x.com/WAY_OWCS/status/1916110144330731633?t=57JVWKgg5k4syQqdj1H-CA&s=19
@hybrid hollow bro zeta didn’t snatch lsm
If I see a Vindaim pickup
Im gonna crash out
split flume
zeta division are simply unserious about winning
static turret
Idk if it’s that
I think lsm just wanted to be with ppl he knew
I still
Think zeta crack top 3
Idc how good t1 have gotten they still clear on every role besides the backline probably
hybrid hollow
If I see a Vindaim pickup
Im gonna crash out
Alphayi Lucio is in full time
stray quarry
Ow isn’t enough
this is disgusting
everyone knows the big three
LeBron
faker
lip
mortal cipher
this is disgusting
It’s not rlly in terms of Korea ow isn’t that big for a military exemption
glass sleet
Very sad ntmr dropped their players
I thought getting third and beating CR would keep the roster but nope
glass sleet
https://x.com/Saunamestari/status/1916105962953359437
He’s Finnish right?
They have mandatory military service
glass sleet
will become the best backline itw by then ^^
That backline is no more
Shu learning about Juno mid tournament
mortal cipher
Lol shu
static turret
I thought getting third and beating CR would keep the roster but nope
They can still renew the contract but most likely they’re going out somewhere else to get more money
Ewc has like 60 sponsored teams im sure one of them will pick Up ntmr
static pond
X
wet bay
https://x.com/owcesports/status/1916166603735240897?s=46
I saw hadi lft
Though surely it makes more sense to replace tvnt
Tvnt is good ofc but hero pool
glass sleet
https://x.com/owcesports/status/1916166603735240897?s=46
For OWCS???
glass sleet
Though surely it makes more sense to replace tvnt
Tvnt is better than hadi
I’ll say it
Cuz it’s true
glass sleet
Tvnt is good ofc but hero pool
Sure they don’t play the same heroes outside of ram mauga but having a good dva is better than having a bad winton
glass sleet
Ewc has like 60 sponsored teams im sure one of them will pick Up ntmr
Hopefully.
Also I really hope KSAA isn’t washed.
He spent most his OWCS career not playing I believe.
mortal cipher
https://x.com/owcesports/status/1916166603735240897?s=46
is the menace still there ???
torn portal
https://x.com/WAY_OWCS/status/1916110144330731633?t=57JVWKgg5k4syQqdj1H-CA&s=19
jasm1ne has breached containment for one more top 6 team
mild valley
Gibraltar goat map ! https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1915890827773284593?s=46&t=exgGFQqXYExXVuCm0eywxg
X
torn portal
Gibraltar goat map ! https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1915890827773284593?s=46&t=...
lowkey not bad
static turret
lowkey not bad
Highkey the best map pool we’ve had in awhile
Busan Illios ball or Winston
Midtown kinda ass
mortal cipher
Gibraltar goat map ! https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1915890827773284593?s=46&t=...
Honestly prtty good
vale cobalt
whos the team captains for falcons and racoons
torn portal
you mean coaches…?
static turret
whos the team captains for falcons and racoons
Proper or stalker for falcons
Cr it’s either junbin or shu
Most of the time the tank is calling the shots but you have some exemptions like god tier dps who are able to make the flow the team fights
Flex supports usually are backup comms since they can see the entire view
torn portal
Flex supports usually are backup comms since they can see the entire view
swear i remember that in nrg ultraviolet was usually calling stuff
static turret
He was
torn portal
during comms checks i heard him doing allat
torn portal
I mean what is pge calling shit ? 😭
torn portal
Lenny stepping up didn’t he say
vale cobalt
why is pharah being played again?
static turret
Yea
torn portal
why is pharah being played again?
she has huge poke/spam power in organized play
vale cobalt
does it came to ppls mind after perks or
torn portal
on like your kings rows circuit royal’s
static turret
Phara is highkey crazy versatile
torn portal
nah it’s been like this
static turret
She’s played in basically every comp
torn portal
She’s just that spam hero
torn portal
That can dominante
static turret
like does it have to do with perks?
Just a good burst dmg poke hero with good mobility
static turret
but u go hitcan and shes useless
Not in pro
torn portal
but u go hitcan and shes useless
not in pro play
vale cobalt
cuz u need soj?
static turret
They have good mechanics with her
torn portal
No just how the team supports pharah and the movement skill ceiling making hitscan less dominant
vale cobalt
i see
torn portal
counters we use in ladder are often less relevant at the highest level
torn portal
i wouldn’t think so
weary scarab
https://x.com/owcesports/status/1916166603735240897?s=46
finally
man they have 2 korean slots available too
static turret
Oh wait ksaa went back
weary scarab
since irony is lft
vale cobalt
so between falcons and racoons who won more and how many was the grand finals
torn portal
not shot tm gets viol2t no?
weary scarab
i hope they get like a choisenwan and a good scnd korean flex
torn portal
or is he actually done with everything
static turret
so between falcons and racoons who won more and how many was the grand finals
Cr have won more overall
vale cobalt
omg
static turret
Cr have also won 3 LANs compared to falcons 1
weary scarab
is violet looking for team
weary scarab
damn
torn portal
holy
torn portal
we calling shy guxue unc when viol2t is decaying into dust
static turret
Either Violet goes into eu or retires
static turret
Having Violet play flex support is crazy ngl
torn portal
Having Violet play flex support is crazy ngl
His best results are brig and flex support be real. And fastro is better on juno than brig
It makes perfect sense, it just means ana brig is hard
but was irony really gonna make that work anyway
weary scarab
lowkey should of just kept irony and get violet too
if they dont import
a second korean
static turret
His best results are brig and flex support be real. And fastro is better on juno...
His best results on fs maybe in 2022
2022”0
2020
2025 Violet fs isn’t it
torn portal
ok zeta looks best with ana brig, juno brig, or double flex
In general
ana kiri feels their strongest idk
static turret
Cus alpahyi pelican were playing like they had a gun to their head
torn portal
this is europe
static turret
Wait they got 3 slots
torn portal
^
torn portal
fastro viol2t for europe standards is legendary LOL doesn’t matter how washed unc is
weary scarab
when is even roster lock
static turret
Should be soon
weary scarab
can they just announce full teams alredy
static turret
There’s a week left
vale cobalt
whn is stage 2
static turret
In about 10 days
glass sleet
lowkey should of just kept irony and get violet too
What? Kept? Did they let him go?
What’s TM’s roster?
weary scarab
What? Kept? Did they let him go?
hadi and irony are lft
hadi is still in contract with tm
they gonna be gone i think
glass sleet
nah youbi with ksaa coordination is the goat
Right. The synergy goes so hard between the two. In fact, it goes so hard KSAA left cuz of him.
Sheeesh
weary scarab
ksaa just got tired of being carried by youbi
glass sleet
Delulu
wet bay
jasm1ne has breached containment for one more top 6 team
I only saw him play in soop cup
I think he's friends with Seonjun
vale cobalt
*being carried by youbi*
lbbd7!!!!
wet bay
TM realising they should've played lbbd7 soj and put Quartz on genji
What game did Quartz play Genji I swear he was actually cooking
vale cobalt
youbi best tracer!!!
torn portal
ksaa just got tired of being carried by youbi
torn portal
<@817060979392643074> <@707268359254966354> Peppi had to snatch up the free ewc ...
are we deadass
static turret
That’s their roster for divine cup but it’s possible they keep it for stage 2
torn portal
lol
peppi worked hanbin on sigma at times and he’s going to lowbob pacific
disappointing but fair
static turret
Also ezhan
static turret
He got traded out for jasmine
hybrid hollow
<@817060979392643074> <@707268359254966354> Peppi had to snatch up the free ewc ...
Why is the sig goat in this dead ass region
static turret
Free ewc slot
hybrid hollow
Man fuck ewc
static turret
Also divine cup
torn portal
Man fuck ewc
deadass
static turret
Who’s going to riyadh this summer
wet bay
Ewc probably gonna be ass
A million pointless Pacific or whatever games all so that we can get single elimination bracket
glass sleet
What game did Quartz play Genji I swear he was actually cooking
A few games. I think it was against ence
I remember him playing echo on illios and genji on NJC
glass sleet
A million pointless Pacific or whatever games all so that we can get single elim...
Was EWC last year ass? Imo it was fucking hype as shit.
glass sleet
It was the first time we so so many comps
mortal cipher
yeah
glass sleet
In OWCS
mortal cipher
yeah
glass sleet
I mean after owl
mortal cipher
natiurally
mortal cipher
Fnatic being the typical fnatic and looking awful in internationals
glass sleet
Fnatic being the typical fnatic and looking awful in internationals
They were so wrong for replacing bliss and irony
Izayaki and LJG were not better
mortal cipher
They were so wrong for replacing bliss and irony
i understand the Shanghai backline but the synergy was bad
glass sleet
You think Fnatic gonna be back for EWC?
mortal cipher
You think Fnatic gonna be back for EWC?
nah unless they pick up some eu team
because the old fnatic is now SKT
young fractalBOT
static turret
Who’s gonna apply
vale cobalt
not me!
robust patio
sullen berry
If there was a G Tier, put Gen.G in there followed by TM
mortal cipher
If there was a G Tier, put Gen.G in there followed by TM
lol
losing Violet is going to make Zeta either right under t1 or worse than just under 3rd or 4th
oop
dim quarry
anyone remember pigboy
robust patio
anyone remember pigboy
no
viscid hatch
anyone remember pigboy
Johnny G clear
young fractalBOT
river nexus
does anyone have any good coaching advice for me a gold 1/plat 5 jq player?
any general advice will be helpful too
gaunt acorn
does anyone have any good coaching advice for me a gold 1/plat 5 jq player?
try the #1026927816626929736 channel
river nexus
thanks!
sullen berry
https://youtu.be/spXInz_1myU?si=gZzeFzkJA1AEB9yc Admiral my skibidi goat from Landon HawkTuahfire
young fractalBOT
sullen berry
https://x.com/L1meW1z4rd/status/1916437867888513141?t=AsK7gd9BK2y2y-biF-jUOw&s=19 overwatch english but now the white boys can start learning korean opochi @robust patio
X
hybrid hollow
https://x.com/L1meW1z4rd/status/1916437867888513141?t=AsK7gd9BK2y2y-biF-jUOw&s=1...
@static turret wait this is actually peak
static turret
<@953442192406491176> wait this is actually peak
heesung learning this as we speak
static turret
Uhh
wet bay
Also someone in the comments said 'best player gone' 💀
static turret
No
Ziyad solo tank
Genuinely asking what does hadi even play
Like I’ve watched so much of him
wet bay
Ram Rein Winston mostly
static turret
But he just doesn’t look comfortable on anything that isn’t orisa
wet bay
He's good on Orisa too
static turret
Ziyad plays dva mauga and some ram tho so idk if they would get hadi
wet bay
But I'm def taking Hadi on Ram Orisa Rein
cosmic socket
did tm let go of hadi?
wet bay
Makes sense to me
static turret
did tm let go of hadi?
Yea
wet bay
did tm let go of hadi?
They picked up KSAA and Hadi posted an LFT so presumably
static turret
Dropped for ksaa
static turret
Just a bunch of old men getting passed around
wet bay
He barely even played I don't think
cosmic socket
getting permabenched by tvnt is crazy work
wet bay
None of that team looked good
static turret
Tvnt isnt bad tho
static turret
He’s not anything crazy but im taking tvnt over hadi ngl
Ksaa lowkey been regressing tho
wet bay
Well Hadi was good last year outside of Mauga meta. It would make sense if ALQ pick up Hadi for Ram Orisa and Ziyad stays playing DVA Mauga
Also Bap and Lucio just got buffed Hadi back w Landon cook sesh pls 🙏
cosmic socket
omg i forgot landons on aq
wet bay
Landon just escaped hadi jail
Why you think he's bad they won 2 stages last year
cosmic socket
watch hadi hard pivot to rivals
static turret
Eu evolved and snatched up Koreans
wet bay
Geng still did bad with a Korean tank and not that much else changed in tank role
cosmic socket
i think geng dominates this stage
static turret
Vestola looked a lot better than last year
wet bay
Still Vestola Chase KSAA TVNT Hadi
cosmic socket
xzo whoru backline goes crazy on paper
static turret
Ziyad preformed better than hadi idk if hadi is top t
Also jaewoo checkmate
Lbb literally cooked on soj
Fixa and Landon finally got to show he’s good on other supports
wet bay
It's kinda hard to say when Hadi barely played
static turret
He barely played tho cus he played terribly
wet bay
Most EU teams were playing DVA Mauga so ofc you're playing TVNT
static turret
Give me tvnt orisa to
cosmic socket
there was a good week in stage 1 where tm didnt have tvnt yet and hadi looked awful
static turret
Idk I just don’t think hadi is up to par to compete anymore
wet bay
Give me tvnt orisa to
TM got cooked by SSG in Orisa meta
Apart from that one map where Chris forced Sparkr to play Tracer
wet bay
Stage 4
wet bay
I don't remember what meta was in stage 3 actually
wet bay
They also 4-0 Ence in Orisa comp
wet bay
Every EU tank is actual dog at Hazard so it's fine
static turret
I just can’t see a top 4 team where hadi is taking anyone’s spot
wet bay
DVA meta
wet bay
I just can’t see a top 4 team where hadi is taking anyone’s spot
Makes complete sense to have him on ALQ
static turret
He can take mags spot
static turret
Makes complete sense to have him on ALQ
Not really tho
wet bay
We haven't seen Ziyad play anything other than Dva and a little Mauga
cosmic socket
yeah is that really a problem in eu
wet bay
They spent most of last year playing Ram
static turret
We’re signing hadi for the occasional orisa meta
static turret
They spent most of last year playing Ram
Different metas
sullen berry
https://x.com/AlQadsiahES/status/1916562193723666502?t=EpYqMAqqo-Jo36iilHCVkA&s=...
Can you ping me if theres more updates from NA/EMEA rosters
static turret
Stage 2 is on current patch where top eu tank is prob gonna be dva again
sullen berry
Keeping busy following Japan and Apac
static turret
And hadi has no business being on dva
wet bay
Hadi is best Ram Rein Orisa in EU imo. Sucks on Mauga, not great on Winston/Hazard but so is almost everyone
sullen berry
Knowing that 99DIVINE recently signed WAY's old tank
static turret
Ye I saw they got peppi
wet bay
And hadi has no business being on dva
Ziyad would still be there and play in a dva meta
cosmic socket
peppi?
wet bay
It's just nice to have both options and would definitely be an upgrade on Tred
static turret
Idk if I would call
Hadi an upgrade
wet bay
You're just crazy atp
static turret
He hasn’t looked decent since stage 4 last year
wet bay
Slandering for 0
static turret
Missed lan
wet bay
He hasn’t looked decent since stage 4 last year
That was not long ago
static turret
Also his Stockholm performance was beyond ass
Like he hasn’t
Showed anything promising in months
wet bay
That's Mauga meta not what you sign him for
I just said
You have Ziyad for Mauga DVA
Why wouldn't you pick Hadi up for Ram or Orisa meta
static turret
So the top 2 eu tanks
When was the last time either of them were meta
And judging by the patches they won’t be for awhile
wet bay
Orisa stage 4, Ram stage 2 or 3 I think. They got a little play time this stage I think but not meta
static turret
It’s just not his time anymore
And eu finally realizing signing Koreans is the wave
wet bay
So you think they should just not pick him up ?
static turret
He can go to like
wet bay
It's the easiest choice in the world, you've dropped Tred and a strong Orisa Ram player is right there
wet bay
Who else would they pick up
static turret
No one
Just keep the solo tank or get another Korean
Oh wait
They got 2 imports
wet bay
Just makes no sense to me
wet bay
No reason to not pick him up because you'd be significantly better in those metas
static turret
Or October
wet bay
KSAA hasn't played good since stage 1 of last year man
Be fr November or whatever doesn't mean much when none of his tanks have been meta since then
cosmic socket
ksaa had so much potential too
wet bay
Anyways Heesung my goat is in EU and is gonna cook everyone, doesn't matter if they pick up Hadi or not
static turret
KSAA hasn't played good since stage 1 of last year man
I said ksaa was regressing to
wet bay
TU clean sweep next stage
wet bay
I wonder what TU backline is next stage
Apparently dropping Faith but not Twilight, surely you aren't keeping Skai but who is gonna play MS
Kellex?
What happened to.him
young fractalBOT
wet bay
Is he retired
Prob washed anyways been playing since the dawn of time but idk who else would go there
torn portal
Anyways Heesung my goat is in EU and is gonna cook everyone, doesn't matter if t...
wait where
sullen berry
https://x.com/99divine_/status/1916452573651018133 pnhb won vs pacific and japanese teams W
X
X
robust patio
https://x.com/L1meW1z4rd/status/1916437867888513141?t=AsK7gd9BK2y2y-biF-jUOw&s=1...
noice
young fractalBOT
robust patio
Anyways Heesung my goat is in EU and is gonna cook everyone, doesn't matter if t...
fr??
torn portal
Chris in stage 1: I can coach dive and with chase, i’m gonna mirror the koreans on dive!
(finishes 2-6)
Chris in stage 2: We signed a korean main tank and now i will coach dive
wise orbit
is heesung to tu confirmed?
wet bay
is heesung to tu confirmed?
Not officially but basically
He didn't play soop cup for FTG and that whole team fell apart now
Twitter leaker who leaked lots of rosters correct said so and Chris also mentioned about KR tank in the uncoachable I think
It's weird how FTG just split up after looking promising last stage and getting a sponsor, I wonder if they will have an interesting new roster or if it will just end up a shitter team next stage
Heesung TU, Seonjun WAY, Vigi T1, Prophet taking a break and no one wants that shitter Vindaim
torn portal
Heesung TU, Seonjun WAY, Vigi T1, Prophet taking a break and no one wants that s...
Prophet 😭
wet bay
It's all good now he has extra time to spend on compilation 30 or whatever
torn portal
where could he go tho in fairness
torn portal
It's all good now he has extra time to spend on compilation 30 or whatever
20 or 21 i thought
wet bay
Idk the numbers I'm not a fan
torn portal
11 is the most iconic and my favorite is the 13 dump
https://youtu.be/UtzswKUUTFM?si=fxrs_e6zFtDtwUhy swear this guy is thanos
my kids arent getting cocomelon they will grow up on prophet montages. to raise them right
robust patio
💀
young fractalBOT
mortal cipher
Lol
sullen berry
mortal cipher
lol
young fractalBOT
thorny gazelle
I thought Eis looked really good
He prob got signed by a top 5 team
Well the financial top 5
mortal cipher
Lose to new unc oocean
3-0 beat down
torn portal
becky turns into prime yaki 👀
kind hamlet
Falcons don’t make it
Nahhh
mortal cipher
becky turns into prime yaki 👀
lol
glass sleet
Who’s the mf throwing games on vision esports
young fractalBOT
mortal cipher
Who’s the mf throwing games on vision esports
where are you watching it
glass sleet
where are you watching it
I was talking about Taejong’s post. He said someone on their team was legit throwing their games but didn’t wanna say their name. Someone on vision was throwing their relegation games.
vale cobalt
https://x.com/TeamPepsMAX/status/1916903794245337522
hamter player
mortal cipher
I was talking about Taejong’s post. He said someone on their team was legit thro...
ah
young fractalBOT
sullen berry
https://youtube.com/shorts/ITvedpm-DaA?si=UXpL1QAdjqcy8AWa the perfect reaction to his own gameplay, check pins if youve forgotten this happened earlier this year
young fractalBOT
robust patio
hmm
mortal cipher
lol
young fractalBOT
torn portal
can we mute this spammer bot 🥱
young fractalBOT
mortal cipher
memories
i watched it last natt twas a good throwback we need some of these once in awhile so we dont forget
static turret
https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1917229470450323792?s=46 @torn portal @hybrid hollow @static turret
X
Team ultimates ?
Potentially
young fractalBOT
static turret
Thought it was a message and it was a mod app
hybrid hollow
https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1917229470450323792?s=46 <@817060979392643074> <...
Surely he's going to supernova
hybrid hollow
nvm don't care
robust patio
lol
glass sleet
https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1917361304450523479?s=46&t=RhEEStjBWj6gkRRmqz_X5...
I refuse to believe Juno skin only made 10k more than that ugly Hanzo skin.
They made more, they just kept it for themselves.
crimson idol
they never release the metrics on how much they give to teams % wise
they just say crowdfunding
glass sleet
they never release the metrics on how much they give to teams % wise
Isn’t it on the website?
The Hanzo skin said 25%
crimson idol
maybe im wrong
glass sleet
But then they removed it
glass sleet
25% is way too low
glass sleet
yeah, they dont keep it explicit
Check the page. See if it says it there.
glass sleet
25% is way too low
Greedy mfs
It should be at least 40%
At least
Valorant does 50%
crimson idol
50 makes the most sense
glass sleet
50 makes the most sense
Valorant made 33 million off their champion skins and 50% went to the orgs
glass sleet
Blizzard legit could be stealing money with their bs 25% and not telling us how much the skin made
crimson idol
and knives
glass sleet
and knives
I’m talking about the specific champion bundle. Every year they make skins specifically for the esport which they give 50% to the orgs. Then then they also have their partner program where every org has a gun skin along with other items that get sold in the shop
glass sleet
And ow does a crowdfunding with 25% 
Ow made a billion last year. They can afford to fucking pay teams more
glass sleet
hopefully the partner team skins are somewhat successful
Hopefully. Ow doesn’t wanna pay their orgs more cuz they know they’ll get supported by Saudi in some way
Erm anyway yeah
edgy knoll
does anyone have dallas attendee rewards?? if so, could u dm me, i have a question!
cosmic socket
X
leaden meadow
https://x.com/Weibogamingwin/status/1917398596770750836
goats
mortal cipher
https://x.com/Weibogamingwin/status/1917398596770750836
i knew WBG would be the first
unless its just for EWC
but if not their jerseys will change to the WBG jersey
young fractalBOT
deft marlin
I barely watched any of TU. I was planning on but Twilight didn’t start until like week 3 or 4. Didn’t end up watching any of their games after that. Is Twilight washed? (Plz say no)
young fractalBOT
viscid hatch
I barely watched any of TU. I was planning on but Twilight didn’t start until li...
He didn’t get to play much ana because it got banned when he went in
Sadly
sullen berry
https://fxtwitter.com/lazuli_team/status/1917502774084002048?t=pnkRWX305fw8L9gQZXMzGg&s=19
Sigh, more fallout from a pretty good core before Stage 2 Asia returns in another couple weeks
glass sleet
I barely watched any of TU. I was planning on but Twilight didn’t start until li...
No
torn portal
holy fuck
@static turret https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1917507117893968062?s=46
X
robust patio
hmm
hybrid hollow
<@953442192406491176> https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1917507117893968062?s=46
Vision 💔💔
I refuse to believe they had the best offer
torn portal
Vision 💔💔
finally a team suiting viol2ts toxicity
like how did he hear all the drama and toxicity or see any of the gameplay of vision and think “the money has to be worth no dignity”
hybrid hollow
He should've went to al qad but I forgot Landon counts as an import
torn portal
damn
split flume
like how did he hear all the drama and toxicity or see any of the gameplay of vi...
he's the 'i got money' guy fym
torn portal
he would actually boost that team to heaven
hybrid hollow
Landon viol2t backline has insane potential
torn portal
One
did they even sign a tank as well
like
vision has to be the most perplexing team in the esport right now
by a mile
hybrid hollow
did they even sign a tank as well
I'm assuming it's the guy who was playing for them in sel
glass sleet
who’s even the flex support
Simple
glass sleet
did they even sign a tank as well
They had AMDP for sel but apparently he’s too young for OWCS
He seemed very solid on dva
glass sleet
He should've went to al qad but I forgot Landon counts as an import
If he was there for college, he would’ve not counted. He’s been there for years now.
weary scarab
<@953442192406491176> https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1917507117893968062?s=46
no way
what is this
weary scarab
why tf do the koreans go to unkown teams
sullen berry
Team vision doing the s2 Shanghai Dragons extreme makeover owcs edition
weary scarab
they kick taejong too then?
sullen berry
why tf do the koreans go to unkown teams
They're going all in with this roster
weary scarab
cuz 2 max koreans
mortal cipher
<@953442192406491176> https://x.com/ginkam0329/status/1917507117893968062?s=46
huh???
weary scarab
im so confused. didnt tm offer them a contract or some shit
sullen berry
Vision is really vying for EWC LCQ
Theyre betting it on Faceit rankings to keep them afloat
weary scarab
is one slot for ewc faceit?
robust patio
why tf do the koreans go to unkown teams
cus they have better chance on qualifying by beating easier regions than beating better koreans
duh
3korean team slots already confirmed in ewc
weary scarab
cus they have better chance on qualifying by beating easier regions than beating...
yes but atleast go to top 4 eu teams man
robust patio
yes but atleast go to top 4 eu teams man
meh their goal is prob qualifying
static turret
Lcq is 2wks before the main tourney which is why it’s possibly a sel thing
Or eu based
Unless all the teams fly out to Riyadh that early or fight on ping
hybrid hollow
3korean team slots already confirmed in ewc
Wait really?
Wait nvm im stupid
Thought u meant 3 imports
glass sleet
They can't have simple viol2t and choi
WHAT? They getting those 2!?
hybrid hollow
WHAT? They getting those 2!?
They're both on the faceit roster so
glass sleet
Sel is 3 imports
hybrid hollow
ah I see
hybrid hollow
But what about stage 2
Simple isn't on the faceit team unless one of those accounts are his
hybrid hollow
Simple trolling all of eu
He should've went to a better team tho 💔
Wait didn't vision lose their owcs spot? No way he went to vision
robust patio
meh
static turret
Wait didn't vision lose their owcs spot? No way he went to vision
They offered the most
Violet was in talks with prob everyone in the west
TL offered him something
static turret
it was never about competing 🥀
He thought they were still in owcs
glass sleet
clearly that won’t be the case
Idk
Idc anymore cuz Taejong left. No one left to call EU players “dogs”
torn portal
They offered the most
His dignity has to be through the floor
torn portal
he could have gone lower and actually win shit on like tl
this is literally minimum effort maximum money
hybrid hollow
he could have gone lower and actually win shit on like tl
I doubt he goes to liquid
torn portal
I doubt he goes to liquid
Could’ve been an offer who knows
hybrid hollow
Casores is on the Vega pill
hybrid hollow
how many anti china remarks did he make
hybrid hollow
Battle of the mid
wet bay
They offered the most
Going from 3rd place Korea to Face it lol
tidal mural
Pls bring back owl skins I want the Toronto defiant Genji💔
static turret
Battle of the mid
Ok but why Mcd tank hit a 4k primal
hybrid hollow
Ok but why Mcd tank hit a 4k primal
Don't me humble ik that was you goat
I seen you queueing Korea
hybrid hollow
it's so ugly 💔🥀
weak frost
I can see them doing good enough in faceit this stage to get a chance at owcs
static turret
I can see them doing good enough in faceit this stage to get a chance at owcs<:c...
Violet ain’t staying until stage 3
If he doesn’t get invited to lcq and make it he’s going back to the military
young fractalBOT
mortal cipher
He probably left because military is coming up
glass sleet
Battle of the mid
I think his best performance was still with tm in OWCS
glass sleet
Simple better unfortunately
sullen berry
X
glass sleet
Going from simple to violet is a downgrade
glass sleet
Pls bring back owl skins I want the Toronto defiant Genji💔
A tad bit too late unfortunately
I also have the skin. Shit mid af
glass sleet
His dignity has to be through the floor
I mean he got kicked from zeta. What dignity does he have left?
Yes, kicked not left.
Who the fuck has their contract end after stage 1?
glass sleet
Simple is better than Violet
I agree. He’s so good.
sullen berry
POV you're viol2t and choisehwan about to come top 2 in EMEA
https://fxtwitter.com/xboxman08202627/status/1917589272804131282
cold pond
any guxue fans here?
static turret
@hybrid hollow @torn portal
This guy has been accurate about stage 2 stuff a lot
There’s slight truth to what he’s saying but at the same time
hybrid hollow
Ngl
Donghak to falcons not ever crazy to say
They need a main tank anyways
What if stalker leaves falcons and they get donghak proud???
I'm feeling the aura shift this might be happening chat
static turret
What if stalker leaves falcons and they get donghak proud???
Downgrade of pain and destruction
Donghak to falcons ain’t bad but like
He’s not there yet
Lowkey tho
hybrid hollow
He lowkey is tho
hybrid hollow
He's overcome the chiyo debuff
static turret
His Winston is better than hanbin but worse than Smurf
Better than heesung imo
But like
Idk where to rank him
hybrid hollow
anything is better than the hanbin main tank
static turret
Someone would most likely solo tank
There’s too much overlap in Donghak and someone’s hero pools
glass sleet
<@707268359254966354> <@817060979392643074>
Ok but 4 dps? Merit when you have proud? Smh he’s just like Kai fr
static turret
Viper can leave
glass sleet
What if stalker leaves falcons and they get donghak proud???
Really? Most valuable player leaves? I doubt it
static turret
They really need a better fdps
hybrid hollow
I mean u just send away proud of you really wanna get someone
glass sleet
Fuk merit
hybrid hollow
Really? Most valuable player leaves? I doubt it
Hes tired of playing with those bums
hybrid hollow
Assuming someone still got it
Bro didn't play for one stage
glass sleet
Hes tired of playing with those bums
Ok but where would he go? Every other team is bums
hybrid hollow
Bro acting like he was gone for a year
static turret
Bro didn't play for one stage
1 stage enough to get washed
hybrid hollow
Ok but where would he go? Every other team is bums
Team liquid
hybrid hollow
1 stage enough to get washed
Not really
I mean China didn't play for a year and still placed top 4
torn portal
Donghak to falcons not ever crazy to say
Worst case scenario because i also cannot be a falcons fan
static turret
Ok but placing over na and eu is like beating on little kids
glass sleet
Team liquid
Erm…
hybrid hollow
Ok but placing over na and eu is like beating on little kids
But he also gapped falcons
static turret
Gapping hanbin isn’t a strong feat for the big boys
Max Junbin guxue all handled him
hybrid hollow
Gapping hanbin isn’t a strong feat for the big boys
He beat him in the mauga mirror
torn portal
Mer1t is more proven then proud full stop and based off toronto is definitely not worse
glass sleet
What’s wrong with bro 😭
I might as well be his mom at this point cuz all he does is disappoint me
hybrid hollow
merit got the worst meta pulls of all time as well
There was so much double flex last season
weak frost
<@707268359254966354> <@817060979392643074>
ok but like is someone really an upgrade over donghak
weak frost
glass sleet
There was so much double flex last season
Lip and Quartz hs players and they be flexing more
torn portal
merit got the worst meta pulls of all time as well
when toronto tried to play sombra tracer with lenny on sombra and mer1t on tracer
Maybe the worst car crash i’ve seen from a tracer
hybrid hollow
Lip and Quartz hs players and they be flexing more
Lip and quartz aren't merit tho?
static turret
Well lowkey
glass sleet
Not being able to flex is not an excuse. It’s a weakness.
torn portal
At that level
hybrid hollow
Not being able to flex is not an excuse. It’s a weakness.
It is but it's not like proud is flexible
glass sleet
Lip and quartz aren't merit tho?
That’s why I don’t say fuk lip and Quartz
torn portal
Donghak hazard is nasty
Ball Hazard Doom in that order is his best
glass sleet
It is but it's not like proud is flexible
Still more flexible than merit actually
hybrid hollow
Still more flexible than merit actually
Not really
torn portal
his ball i swear is generational his team is just so dogshit
static turret
Doom is irrelevant sadly but I fw the doom
hybrid hollow
honestly not at all
glass sleet
He is
hybrid hollow
the proud tracer is not scaring anyone
glass sleet
Did you not watch PF?
torn portal
Someone ball was just never played
static turret
Someone can play hazard (allegedly) Winston and sig
torn portal
He probably not matching donghak full glaze tho
hybrid hollow
Did you not watch PF?
weak comp he's not hanging with the goats
static turret
His orisa is kinda ass tho
glass sleet
Fine
static turret
Infekted was lowkey working him on it
glass sleet
Unfuk merit
static turret
Unfuk merit
?
hybrid hollow
Like merit someone is better than proud donghak
glass sleet
Like merit someone is better than proud donghak
I hate
hybrid hollow
so even if proud is slightly more flexible it's an upgrade overall imo
glass sleet
I be hating
hybrid hollow
But idk if breaking up the t1 core is smart
static turret
Like merit someone is better than proud donghak
Highkey they need to snatch up alpahyi
torn portal
His orisa is kinda ass tho
fine he’s not the true hyperflex god but that’s hero we know he’s bad at
weak frost
his ball i swear is generational his team is just so dogshit
would like to see how they do in stage 2 if they don't end up getting someone and mer1t, they actually have 5 people on their team now
torn portal
that’s all so far
glass sleet
Highkey they need to snatch up alpahyi
No he’s a Lucio main now
weak frost
rather than 4 people and openingpick
hybrid hollow
They genuinely have alpahyi on lucio
Don't worry I land in Korea tomorrow
glass sleet
that’s all so far
Someone? He’s mid on orisa dva and mauga
hybrid hollow
I'll save zeta
hybrid hollow
Someone? He’s mid on orisa dva and mauga
mid on mauga? That's an overstatement
glass sleet
mid on mauga? That's an overstatement
I mean understatement?
hybrid hollow
I mean understatement?
Same thing
glass sleet
Shit I don’t think so
hybrid hollow
Does dong have a mauga on him tho
probably better than someone on mauga
Lowkey tho
static turret
They never really played it to
hybrid hollow
It's casores fault
static turret
Tho
hybrid hollow
Peep how Infekted lost all motor skills with casores?
glass sleet
Tm got rid of tvnt?
hybrid hollow
Same with someone
hybrid hollow
Tm got rid of tvnt?
I thought they dropped Hadi
static turret
Bc Casores forced them on 1 hero
static turret
I thought they dropped Hadi
They did
glass sleet
I thought they dropped Hadi
His streams still say tm hadi
static turret
He posted lft
glass sleet
Good
glass sleet
Sooooo
hybrid hollow
What’s their backline
Me and you
glass sleet
I want donghak to join FLC
static turret
He might
static turret
Proud found dead in the streets
hybrid hollow
glass sleet
Heesung not gonna fix TU’s problem
glass sleet
Idk if he can make up for Kai
glass sleet
Skai faith backline
Faith left I think
glass sleet
Skai is flex
hybrid hollow
Kai and Kev gotta join masaa on the retirement fishing trip
static turret
Skai twilight ?
glass sleet
Double flex
hybrid hollow
Skai twilight ?
Wait twilight old ass is still playing
hybrid hollow
I assumed he'll be gone after one stage ngl
glass sleet
Wait twilight old ass is still playing
He been good tho
static turret
You just spam double flex and watch heesung farm that region
hybrid hollow
He been good tho
He has
static turret
Is that not meta?
hybrid hollow
But like
glass sleet
Bro didn’t even play a handful of games
hybrid hollow
Wrap it up unc
static turret
Also kai and kev have experience with Korean metas
glass sleet
Wrap it up unc
Isn’t MCD older
hybrid hollow
probably
hybrid hollow
And he's nowhere to be found
static turret
Twilight is 26
glass sleet
Idk why I thought he’s 27
static turret
He might be
hybrid hollow
Twilight is 26
He damn near 40
glass sleet
So KSAA and tvnt…they literally play the same heroes
glass sleet
Yes
static turret
Still don’t crack the old head himself
Ryu
Not even sure he knows he’s on the roster
glass sleet
Architect?
glass sleet
Isn’t he 30,
static turret
33
static turret
Peps are getting regulated
glass sleet
Peps are getting regulated
They dropped their tank
glass sleet
Oh
static turret
I think
glass sleet
Junkbuck should go to tm
static turret
He’s on Qads ?
glass sleet
Yes
glass sleet
He played tred all lan cuz he had personal issues with ziyad
static turret
Rip
glass sleet
Yep
torn portal
Someone? He’s mid on orisa dva and mauga
compare that to like hanbin on ball
i wouldn’t call hanbin’s main tanks mid i would call them bad
glass sleet
compare that to like hanbin on ball
I’ll say it, his monkey ain’t half bad.
torn portal
someone only has great and mid
glass sleet
someone only has great and mid
We talked about using the word “mid” it’s a nice way of saying his mauga is shit
torn portal
We talked about using the word “mid” it’s a nice way of saying his mauga is shit
kappa
someone haters wilding
static turret
X
Ksaa quartz seicoe simple fastro
Not bad but ngl the backline has 0 depth
Fastro glorified lucio otp and simple who is highkey a zen otp but for eu standards he’s him
mortal cipher
If donghak is off t1 i am not a fan anymore
Counter argument someone donghak tank line
stray quarry
I’ll say it, his monkey ain’t half bad.
all hail the hanbinston
glass sleet
Ksaa quartz seicoe simple fastro
I see tm thinks keeping fastro is a good idea
One Korean is such a bad idea. I’ve never seen a team with one Korean import play well.
static turret
X
static pond
X
mortal cipher
One Korean is such a bad idea. I’ve never seen a team with one Korean import pla...
TL as proof
glass sleet
TL as proof
Yes you’re right. Them not making NA grand finals is definitely proof
Not even second place NA
glass sleet
https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1917361304450523479?s=46
I still refuse to believe Juno skin made 10k$ more than Hanzo ugly ass sonic skin
mortal cipher
Yes you’re right. Them not making NA grand finals is definitely proof
But that lower bracket game against ntmr was a banger but still given its Team Liquid and the bane itself they should be expected to get second at lowest
Name *
glass sleet
They don’t have results.
mortal cipher
They don’t have results.
Yeah hopefully be t stage is better or else they need to make some changes
glass sleet
Yeah hopefully be t stage is better or else they need to make some changes
Maybe get a second Korean import
mortal cipher
Coming from the TL Fan since like forever
mortal cipher
Maybe get a second Korean import <:clueless:1075441042578493480>
I was assuming Violet to TL if he dying go to another Korean team
glass sleet
Coming from the TL Fan since like forever
In general? Cuz that sounds funny if it’s ow since they’re only been here for one stage.
glass sleet
I was assuming Violet to TL if he dying go to another Korean team
He’s going to vision
Done deal
mortal cipher
In general? Cuz that sounds funny if it’s ow since they’re only been here for on...
Not way before Overwatch even was a game
No*
mortal cipher
He’s going to vision
Yeah I meant before vision
mortal cipher
Who knows I guess
glass sleet
The players
mortal cipher
Ye
mortal cipher
The players
Ofc
static turret
Eu is gonna be crazy this stage
static pond
Yeah I meant before vision
Vision?
torn portal
Counter argument someone donghak tank line
if someone is as good at hazard as he says he is then donghak would legit be in as a ball specialist and that’s it
lol
static pond
I still refuse to believe Juno skin made 10k$ more than Hanzo ugly ass sonic ski...
The 25% is so low
glass sleet
if someone is as good at hazard as he says he is then donghak would legit be in ...
Please don’t do that to donghak
torn portal
TL as proof
Can we chill on team liquid by the way like i swear they aren’t as bad as people say….
glass sleet
My head gonna blow up
glass sleet
Yeah 3rd place is not acceptable with that roster
torn portal
It was a stacked top 3 tbf
glass sleet
But tbf I get it. They are no match to the goats ntmr
glass sleet
It was a stacked top 3 tbf
That’s not what everyone said start of stage 1. Everyone said TL easily first. I was the only believer in ntmr
torn portal
Emea is overall more entertaining with better teams but
static turret
True
static turret
I didn’t believe in ntmr
torn portal
in na
glass sleet
Guys
static turret
I was sure ntmr was gonna make 3rd
glass sleet
Are we gonna have to cheer for TU cuz of heesung?
static turret
Does this mean I have to cheer for kai
torn portal
Are we gonna have to cheer for TU cuz of heesung?
no
glass sleet
I’m conflicted
torn portal
whoru and xzodyal has to be the most interesting dps duo in a while
glass sleet
whoru and xzodyal has to be the most interesting dps duo in a while
Oh TRUE!
torn portal
because it has the potential to be better than vp deadass
glass sleet
But
torn portal
xzodyal needs to lock in more