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how small did he look
He was almost eye level with the setups while standing
W
he always said he was short but i was thinking like 5'5 or something 😭
Bro only said W gg
why zeruhh like
He's gonna be sleep before map one starts
Zeruhh has too much aura
lwk expecting t1 to roll them 3-0
It'll be close I think
Cuffa said hes destined to beat the Koreans on dive
I believe him
Lowkey up to uv and zeruhh
Wait I forgot about that guy
It might be ggs
ight im locked in
Zeruhh diff
Proud needs western players for his clip dump he's gonna try extra hard
sleep isnt as important as watching my goat zeruhh
zebron james
I need a map 5 banger
They highkey gotta avoid all non ana brig situations
Skewed is actually gapping admiral in anything that isn't brig ana
And that's assuming uv is locked in
85%
Why couldn't he do this when he coached oa
Guy never wants to be a good coach when it matters
Is that a Winston I see
Omg it's happening
Wait
If ntmr wins this will be the second time donghak lost the Winston mirror to this team
Pharah highkey busted into ana brig thoughts?
Eww
omg the boot camp is working
na shu comes in clutch
Another Korean nade
Donghak is still korean I fear
uv cant carry these bums 😭 💔 💔 💔
okay lil rough
So like
we stabilize we stabilize
lethal seems to hate soj
Scared of the mirror
he played ashe in na finals
This ain't na 💔
Bro gotta peep game and lock in
Ngl
The mtd is insane

Ong nano pharah is busted
Maybe
Why is uv the only one getting some ult percentage
nano barrage is op
because uv is the only player comparable to the koreans
Donghak playing ping pong with uv
like
lethal gets no bob
cuffa does not have the gene
surely we get a winston ban now
get the short guy in now
And tell lethal to play soj
Like they get the busted dps pick and I dont? Just send me home
am i really ruining my sleep schedule for 3-0verwatch? 💔
Need the peppi v Vestola sig mirror ngl
When they lowkey just force it every map
Surely we go circuit and ban doom
Also
It's highkey the move
They already used the ball ban
I mean are we really scared of the donghak ball on April 2025
Meta roll looks BAD
saw the ram ban coming
can cuffa play anything besides ram?
lowkey never seen bro off mauga ram Winston
oh yeah the hazard guy exist
his haz isnt terrible
just doesnt measure up to donghak
Played soj
they shouldve banned pharah
why ntmr banning uv's best hero
Avoiding the ana brig
And the Winston in general
when they giving korea 6 lan slots
I don't think the comp or ban choices are bad they're just not Korean
Wait losing to skewed in the Lucio mirror is insane 💀
theyre just so much better
bro
i knew they were but its so sad to see it
why donghak a server admin
Donghak gets a 50% stat boost when chiyo isn't in the venue
BRO GO ON THE POINT LOL
once na always na
rip
Like get in the short guy 💔💔
This is embarrassing
idk man peppi gotta nasty sig on him
Lethal admiral and cuffa are doing air
Can Vestola hang
i wish it was vp vs t1, if vp flops against way the west will fall 💔
Or was it faith
Lenny would never let this happen
Fixa galaa
Lowkey can't remember galaa when he's not next to khenail
Can we investigate soop for removing every brawl map from the pool
#nooticing
join the narrative
They don’t need it
They're just letting dong whip it out how he wants now
Buddy rolling out on rein
They can legit run anything
aura ban
We got proud on flex dps
Rare lethal pick
The tank gap is crazy
too late though i think
THEY HOLD
winnable
proud too goated
i wish t1 just got rid of this bum ass backline and got a better fdps
they could be a very good team
unfortunate
ntmr got picks on that last fight somehow
they could have won that maybe
I wish ntmr and vp weren't so far into the bracket, I know they just couldn't be here last week so i get it
but i wouldve liked to see them in the bracket stage first
VP were in kr 1 week prior to this
Ntmr prob around 7th-8th seed kr level
Maybe 6th
idk, I think they had a pretty poor game they're better than this
wouldve liked to see them vs PF
but EU > NA so 
when you arent better than the 5th best kr team
me if VP gets 3-0d
Cuffa was never gonna be as good as Dong unfortunately
After China lan kr is getting 5 spots
Na eu and China all get 1
cockwave better log ontoday
yea but donghak could easily fit into CR or Falcons, he's one of the best tanks rn
He couldn’t fill their current tanks shoes
to give him credit i thought cuffa played well on route 66
t1 with a better backline could be up there easily
Donghak on t1 is fine
Nah
not better than donghak but he had his moments
Cr and falcons are just ahead of everyone else by a lot
dunno, I think he just looks worse because his team just does nothing
but proud and donghak are very good
I dont think they are in this meta
just the worse team with a bad meta roll
Did ntmr win NA on hazard
i think so
nah im pretty sure they played a good bit of hazard too
Unfortunately cuffa is just worse at every tank
na stage 1 was crazy
I didnt watch much NA but during hazard meta in the first 2 weeks they lost to ssg quite easily and barely scraped by timeless
new meta every week
Ntmr looked rough in the first 2wks yea
But they won like every playoff match to secure a lan spot
And soop spot
thats the best na hazard team btw
tbf ssg is still a way better team they kinda trolled in finals
See
i wouldve liked to see ssg vs t1 instead
^
wouldve been a lot closer
I dont think either team touches t1 in this meta
fuck that I wanna see vestola vs peppi
give us CR
Peppi will eternal gap him I fear
anti finnish propaganda
vestola will have sex with your mother i fear
(
)
Still lose the sig mirror
peppi is Korean + has aura
Vestola is just some guy who can't perform at a lan to save his life
owwc 💔
yzn best flex dps in the west I guess
so true
Who?
oh i think i missed the moment ur talking about
Treating Koreans like babies
Lowkey most of them can speak English to an extent they just be shy
West is BACK
VP won a fight
I think we have seen enough
And shockwave usbdrad
surely
Peppi 200-0s this map btw
Is dead
Yet is scared of the westola?
Bring Peppi in
JAEWOOO
jaewoo is nasty tho
He also gets the buff
VP on tob
True
hahaha fixa
Wait this match is actually gonna be fye
Fixa got rally in 2 seconds
Especially when peppi comes in and shits on them
whoru finds a loophole in his contract and comes back for map 5
I have never been wrong actually
Gg wasted ur energy on slop
Very much the opposite
wait fr
Though universtiy is the best map for orisa
Sextola coming all over them
i cant stay up for this
no but he's a decent ball
its 4 am
not enough against the vestola though
Wait
this isnt right of me
SHOCKWAVE
Eww
Vp are so locked
shockers so underrated
The west is back
No
eu finally here when the lights are on
No hadi
Lenny beats t1 just saying
Truth
🙏
Unfortunately all the hope fades when you remember they have a Korean coach and two Korean players
Chill
Can never escape their grasp
Aura
Sig mirror incoming
Never in my damn life did I think I'll be excited for a sig mirror
Peon is in
VP up one? Less go
if I see a sig ban I'm personally calling up wdg and removing the ban
Wtf
OMG
ITS THE GOAT
ITS SUGARBRON
I’m a that penny
WTF
Isn’t rr
87 pages
NA learning from the best in the west
The world is healing
LOL
Yeah
Everyone is here for the sig mirror
don't you mean East
I keep forgetting there na
It’s time
VP is best in the west
It’s diff now
Peppi making sure all the aura is present
this might change the history of the world as we know it
EWWWW
ok ade
who needs peppi when you have lips 3rd cousin
Soj is interesting
Widow mythic gun sounds are soothing
I dont like soj
He's scared
ADE can just ego peek
He knows he can't hang
why they gotta pit two bad bitches against eachother...
Wait why is fixa farming these windows
The traditional poke
Topdragon is actually just better in Korea
Flux Ajax
EU was debuffing him
he was good last year too he just had a dogshit stage 1
he got AOMA way higher than they shouldve been
it's the proximity to the equator that is making him move different
Wait Vestola might be him
I will go gay for ves
I'm being converted
Aren't u gay already
For ves
Bro ade is having a map
non eu-heads discovering bestola
Put Sugarbron in there
Oh my god ves
I mean ik about Vestola I just hate eu
Pmg
Well not hate
The sig demon
But the na pride never dies
HOLY
Vestola sig is insane
dam straight
unlucky
i focus all my pride into Sugarbron
NAURRR
Why is galaa eating up resources
dont tilt to this please
smash bringing out their potential
Is smash crusty if he never found the crack pipe?

Genuinely better than any EU or na match this stage
Team Peps reverse sweep against TU was fun
VP being top 5 worthy
Ultimately slop in the face of this
Like China throw match actually better than the west finals
I hope way win this map and VP wins the series
How would whoru be here
holy gap
ves on tob
Sig gap
block the rock
bestola stocks on ATH
Omg
nvm
WTF
Vest is actually dog walking him
Sig gap of eternity
peppi best sig btw
Like highkey it's the Juno brig
Ves owns him
omg peppi is frauding out 💔
yea idk how I'm feeling about this Bap Brig stuff
Is he or is vestola that good
Vestola is just tht good
Well you were saying that he will shit on ves so in that sense yes
we swap juno brig and win a fight
I'm noticing something
It happens
Ves again
Interesting rally
wtf
Did vp not have speed when they rallyed
Fixaa was possessed by the spirit of Viol2t
Fixa was kinda just standing there waiting
Peppi has a grudge
Juno brig op
Just saying
It's the backline
Like Juno brig is busted
Wait fixa the master baiter
Yooooo
what da Mei doing
They will cap with like 1:30min for last
Imagine if my Mei had blizzard here
they touched ok
omg
Holy
Nah he's actually huge
5 man flux
🇫🇮 🇫🇮
Is Peppi being diffed by a white man??
Make this guy the king of Finland
Real ball knowers were expecting this
ppeqokmvcsjzkmcs
Vestola actually bailed out highkey
how does ves liv
Aura
Bro was dead if jaewoo doesn't have blizzard
Difference between feeding and making space is living
BOOM
Unfortunately true
Vp has actually been insane all season so far
vp 3rd best team at china?
vp looks like the most well-coached western team in ages
If they win this they're fully undefeated right?
they always seem prepared
Monkey stuff being good might boost OA to the 3rd slot but its between them for sure
what did vp play on map 1
VP putting up prime cr numbers
i mean this isnt really part of the season I think but yeah they havent dropped a game yet
Orisa
orisa
yea vestola shut down mealgaru ball so hard on orisa
Any top level overwatch played during the year is apart of the season in my book
gotta take all we can get
gotta give credit to owcs ive liked this years schedule alot
barely any down time
we have owcs relegatin games tomorrow too
ik NTMR got kinda rolled but like looking back they got Lethal cuFFa against Donghak and Proud. They were doomed from the start
and then lan next week
33-7 now with these two
Then we get a short break then right into stage 2 right?
and ewc for the stage two major
ntmr also had a pretty bad game I think they couldve done better
wait why did they cook
but yeah NA seems pretty cooked from all we've seen
Donghak is just too good
i wanna see alq vs ntmr or ssg in china
Toronto coming back with even more money and someone merit for stage 2
Proud is also insane on Hitscan
I NEED THIS
i thought someone is going to falcons next stage
Toronto is gonna turn checkmate into an America citizen to bring him back to na and merit never has to play tracer again
they were gonna sign him stage1 but couldnt due to some rules no?
Realistically yeah
donghak and proud need a better team
i still believe if t1 gets rid of this terrorist backline they could take on way and zeta
somebody needs to invest more into those two
We're eating so good
Now I really hope someone is in on falcons next stage
Way needs to find a way to buy Bernars contract for this mirror
Mealgaru got shit on and both teams best tanks are off tanks
How would you improve them
i guess they could pick up THE terrorist
if he leaves zeta
We dont know shit
on the lowks
the lft might be a negotiation tactic, a classic korea pro player meltdown
etc
He is getting old wouldn't put it past him
I don’t see him going anywhere else
I wouldnt lock out either option
Poor finn just wants to queue up with chaewon
How did Leesoomin end up back there
Mei wall I think
Addicted to the shock
i forgot the game
Surely fixa doesn't pop rally in the middle of the map and go afk
comeback time
omg vestola
Bro who is this guy
He's breaking the curse
THERE WAS NO CURSE
There was definitely a curse 💔
Fixa looking like me out there
Valid
fixa and ves goats
literally
I mean he deserves it
i think i'd like EU more if i liked watching the players more
greedy tank players
both did great
Youd like eu more if you werent american
very much true
i like my NA streamers very much
Can we really have the Kai and Kev washed conversations now
Like Vestola gets away from those bums and is just the best player in the world
retruth
lol
it may be true
grass is green
most boring interview incoming
Did you watch
no way that's the first time a western team beat a Korean team in Korea since apex
Owl is kinda weird since everyone was Korean back then
If you skip the owl years then it's probably true
Vestola confirms that the smash gap is real
Wait vest admits he was scared of peppi and carried by his backline????
are we thinking VP can beat T1
Not sure actually
T1 won't run the mirror at all
He is just a humble king
Vest got out of some pretty crazy situation
Proud is on a scarier level
Longest conversation vestola has ever had
Well they are on the 4th best team i dont think they are getting shafted or anything
i dont think donghak is better than hanbin, junbin and bernar
i feel like they have the potential to go further
IIzayaki retired
^ I hope somebody is happy about this news 🙂
NOOOOOO (we all knew this was happening)
Him saying that 3 months before they won is insane 💀😭
YES vestola is the greatest Sig in Overwatch history
YES fixa is the GOAT of Brig
and NA is trash
Vestola will kill them all on dva
He might
But I think t1 rn > way
Zest looked really good
Vestola vs donthak should be a good matchup
imagine vp with xzo instead of shockwave
watching this match today has inspired me to play sig
i went to bed at three if you told me sooner i’d be there
@static turret VP i was not familiar with the true extent of your game
Vestola is him
Ntmr is ass
Na is in shambles
I still don’t think ntmr is the bbest at team ssg and liquid just had unfortunate circumstances
Lenny would never get 3-0 by a non top 2 Korean team
When NA is a dive one trick region but at the same time are ass at dive 💔
Cooked
Is NA really trash ?
Yea
like why is lethal just dodging the soj mirror
Hitscan players when they can't point and click on multiple heros 💔
He wasn’t winning it
Let’s be honest
Cuffa got hard gapped
Admiral was losing the mirror to skewed on lucio
Lethal did air 90% of the 3 maps
UV did what he could but had some bad moments
And Zeruhh turned up but it didn’t matter bc his team was ass
All ik is that I need smash to coach the bucks
Clearly he has a power never before known to man
Ok but why is vestola 100% Korean
If this guy was fishing the shock they go 6/6
New power rankings in
1-FLC
2-CR
3-VP
4-OA
5-QADS
6-SSG
7-NTMR
8-CC
If ntmr don’t beat way
They drop to number 8
At this rate vp might win China
smash might be able to create miracles from pure ambition
If VP can beat t1 unironically they might have a 10% chance
Sad but not unexpected
IMO
- CR
- Falcons
- VP
- SSG
- OA
- ALQ
7: NTMR - CC
Lowkey give korea 4 lan spots, take 1 from na and 1 from china
Take one from EU too aq ain't going shit at china
true
When they lowkey will
Qads lost to vp but as the season went on they stepped up
Assuming they’re slingshotting still
They might take vp to 5 maps
4 maps
4 close maps
only imports carry that region, barely
Crazy to say when vp has 2 Koreans
I fear the west just needs Korean imports in general
thats ssg for u
?
spacestation gaming
Yes what does that have to do with anything
are they not?
so u sayin west needs to rely far less on imports?
ah
honestly id go the way league does for worlds 4 Korea 4 China 3 for Eu and NA or
SamSung Galaxy lol
always has been that way in every Asia dominated esport
6 days left
They still getting 3-0’d by china 👀
a western team 3-0ing a respected kr team is all i needed to see
thats a win for me
who woulda thought skewed would rival admiral despite bein a flex support?
Top 3 na ms gets diffed by skewed on lucio
Geng is currently playing in SEL
against vision
Whoru is playing already
Whoru gets 4k after slowdive gets two. damn
He’s already carrying on geng
Where is SOOP cup even stresmed
I feel like no one watches this tourney bc I have no idea how to fucking find it
CommanderX
You can watch the VOD if you missed it
Vision v geng is 1-1 rn. Spinel and whoru are already playing
Dude idk why falcons doesn’t join SEL. It’s a Saudi org and they can make a really good roster to win. It would make it competitive with geng and twisted minds. Since you can have 3 non Saudis on the teams now, you can sign KSAA as the Saudi tank and and get lbbd7 or sirmajed as the second Saudi and then fill your roster with Koreans.
Why isn’t it on OWCS u tube
Get Stalk3r in sel. I want him to win more money
Or twitch
You can watch it on soop. It’s the streaming platform Koreans use I believe
Oh this issue
They won’t allow twitch to stream it right
That’s what commander uses
The Korean broadcast for Korea is only on soop. So I’m assuming since it’s CALLED SOOP CUP, it’s also exclusively on soop
Let’s go vision! Roll GENG
It’s extremely inaccessible to watch on as NA. I’m sure I can get it but holy it should not be this annoying
Is there an app for it?
Or just the website
It makes sense since Koreans already use soop. So Korean OWCS WDG partnered with soop
Idk but you can just use the website
Well it limits NA watching
Probably didn’t have much NA watching to begin with
You just type soop instead of twitch man
It’s incredibly annoying
I can’t airplau the game
It gets blocked
And I really don’t wanna watch 5 hours on my phone
just watch commanderx vod
He doesn’t have the finals on it
Nvm I got confused
Holy shit the app is terrible lol. I for some reason thought CR and Falcons played today
Finals broadcast starts in 9 hours
What is current bracket
Or is it viewable anywhere
vp vs t1 finals, ntmr vs way 3rd place match
and yes it viewable in liquipedia
I should prolly go to bed now if I wanna wake up early and watch itlive lol
Srry this cup always confused me. Are flacons and cr not in this?
They arent
Where is Way from?
not this time idk why
but t1 vs vp should be a good match
korea
but they arent a big org
Closer competition
Zeta etc
they played last time
Did they purposely not join
Oh it’s invite
Happy they weren't highkey
They actually didnt play soop season 1 last year either
they only completed in season 2 last year
which was after the owcs circuit ended
I mean it’s an arm and a limb to even watch this fucking tourney
todays matches were peak and cr or falcons would've ruined it
I mean it's not different from Korea matches for me
Bc holy dogshit app
It’s just the app
He streams them live
Soop is somehow worse than twitch
Ik way better
Wouldn't try using that app even if my life was on the line
I genuinely don't have the gene (or the language)
I hate Korea won’t just allow it to stream on twitch
surely it isnt the government prohibiting it ?
Bc app so bad
why would they do that
To be fair America foreign relations isn’t exactly great
So I don’t blame Korea if it’s bc the Cheeto man lol
I think it was like that always tho
Korea and China just make it 10x harder for westerners to view their content
You kinda gotta pray that who or whatever u wanna watch uses twitch or YouTube
I thought South Korea was on good terms with US
Before what’s happening rn
I don't think it's a political thing at all it's just a weird cultural gap I think
Bc it's not impossible it's just super inconvenient to the point it's not worth trying
But what do ik I just watch ow
Well it's probably just exclusive to soop since it's hosted by soop
that would be my guess
most likely
china can actually fuck off tho
Like impossible to conveniently watch a Guxue stream
Ppl saying it was a coaching diff that ntmr lost 💔
I fear they just got skill gapped
Billibill
They stream on their
Yes
During China quals
I spent 45 minutes trying to navigate through it
Shit is aids
like I'll just wait for the guxue obs sojourn pov
Imagine how many more he would have if I could navigate the website in just the slightest 💔
Wait why is leave pulling owcs na game day numbers
Bc China is big asf
And they care about esports
Asia has love for
It
Na doesn’t
when half the Chinese teams were just different variations of once again
Everytime I go on that app
I can never find anyone
I’m tryna find someone streaming anything normal and it’s nothing but females cosplaying and everyone else playing some mobile game
if T1 they will have won every Soop tourney except the one with CR in it
NA only has love for American things. Like NFL, NBA, and MLB
If we didn’t make it than we don’t like it
I think you can stream on twitch I don’t think you make money in sk tho
Kr uses this https://m.chzzk.naver.com/video/6763540
You can easy find players but views are extremely low even soop views are low
Yeah
money actually
Twitch left korea due to excessively high traffic cost
as a result korean streamers switched to other platforms like Soop or chzzk so that they can continue make money
Ye
Its not
Soop is a competing streaming platform
this is like asking why doesnt twitch rivals setup an official stream in youtube
they own the broadcasting rights and sponsor the tournament so they want to drive the viewers to their platform
thats how broadcasting right deals work
Soop is cringe asf
Are they
they dont owe us anything rly this is just an extra thing they went out of their way to do, i think its cool they paid for this tourney out of their pockets and got west team involved in it
WDG is broke
ill take the inconvience
WAit wth
they copyright striked cx? ok thats cringe
i get not setting up a broadcasts on competing platforms but you should leave co-streams alone
You look at every co streamers screen they legit aren’t showing the match at all
They show the scoreboard
yes they are incredibly cringe
read down
i don't even think they asked politely about it
i think they just handed copyright strikes to anybody who dare show SOOP footage
i think it's funny that they have NA and EU teams and don't support English or any other language on their official platform
Yeah like the only people this hurts are english viewers who they clearly dont gaf about anyway when you look at their UI for one second
wait i just realized did NTMR pick circuit?
yes
isn't this like WAY's best map?


