I'm interested to see who onside pick up to replace vigi
#esports-discussion
wet bay
mortal cipher
Yeah
glass sleet
NTMR wins
mortal cipher
NTMR wins
Nah, but I guess we’ll see
Then again who rlly knows when it comes to these things
cosmic socket
i think vp clears
twilit violet
mortal cipher
xzo to gen.g?
they need a HS
sullen berry
Gen.G could really use xzodyal though @wise orbit
balmy wolf
Is collegiate overwatch still a thing?
storm falcon
Last season's poker face vs today's way
Who do y'all think wins that matchup
sullen berry
Last season's poker face vs today's way
Who do y'all think wins that matchup
With current patch or the one last season?
mortal marten
overwatch
torn portal
Gen.G could really use xzodyal though <@274201626183467008>
they could use a hitscan who is a consistent playmaker
torn portal
Is collegiate overwatch still a thing?
yes look online
balmy wolf
yes look online
Alr thxs
mortal cipher
Gen.G could really use xzodyal though <@274201626183467008>
especially on Hitscan
robust patio
hmm
sullen berry
hmm
streams are now up
unlike the OWCS website (is that even working), the OWCS China page on bilibili displays the official costreamers at the top, and the drops you can earn with a Chinese OW account
split flume
china games pog
sullen berry
for everyone else, it's just a regular Thursday
Because no OA and ROC/Team CC 3-0veratch
LEVI and Little Sheep though 👀
split flume
levi is jimmy and his trainees right
sullen berry
correcto
Super Levi about to get their easy game tonight
because Little Sheep looks like a roster that blew up
literal placeholders for their tank player until they signed a permanent tank just 3 days ago, and fake YZNSA
split flume
they got who on supp
sullen berry
bros got his own pfp
Bro I got the same tee as this dude NOWAYING
also they can afford a studio 
loud hound
esports
robust patio
fake yzn
mental vine
Where in YouTube can I watch the games?
sullen berry
I just did a search on youtube for OWCS China, not that hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWweo7cvWZE
sullen berry
Where in YouTube can I watch the games?
you want it in chinese, right
mental vine
English
sullen berry
English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dzGmFJ3gy4 Here's British english for you
@hot onyx join tomorrow
mental vine
How about 🇺🇸 English
mental vine
K
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850> join tomorrow
wouldn't miss it for the world
unless it doesn't fit in with work
robust patio
sullen berry
unless it doesn't fit in with work
it's going to be around this time anyways so gl
static turret
Looks like the meta is undefined yet but there’s a chance they fall back on the dva special
torn portal
what’s crazy is that the mauga nerf is the first true pro play nerf in a while
doesn’t really impact ladder but hugely nerfs his value in organized play
mortal cipher
doesn’t really impact ladder but hugely nerfs his value in organized play
Good
Although I was played by a game on dva and differ the opposite dva do bad they had to switch to Mauga, but still got crushed, but they were able to
Get some progress on the push map lol
hybrid hollow
https://x.com/viol2t_ow/status/1905332514002219319?s=46&t=6UzuKYQU2GhLY3MEK321fQ
Wait actually?
I fear the guy is still a top 5 support player even when he's running it down
wet bay
Alphari is actually the goat
wet bay
https://x.com/viol2t_ow/status/1905332514002219319?s=46&t=6UzuKYQU2GhLY3MEK321fQ
Maybe zeta are splitting? Idk why they would drop him even if he throws sometimes cause there's no better option
Onside should revive the vrotherhood with viol2t vindaim 🙏
torn portal
Wait actually?
Another main support to be funneled into europe i fear (just kidding PLEASE GO TO T1)
stray quarry
Maybe zeta are splitting? Idk why they would drop him even if he throws sometime...
could be April fools 
wet bay
could be April fools <:clueless:1075441042578493480>
Maybe if his calendar is wrong 😭
wet bay
Another main support to be funneled into europe i fear (just kidding PLEASE GO T...
Oh yeah he could do that also ig
stray quarry
-$80k
wet bay
They have no Lucio
stray quarry
maybe he’s being offered that faker money
wet bay
Though wouldn't they have just picked him up instead of vigi if they wanted him
stray quarry
but if he got offered he’d go straight there instead of posting 😭
torn portal
anyway
wet bay
Who are Zeta gonna replace him with even if they aren't splitting
torn portal
what is happening. to zeta
wet bay
Alphayi is lowkey a better option than Opey
torn portal
Alphayi?
cosmic socket
https://x.com/viol2t_ow/status/1905332514002219319?s=46&t=6UzuKYQU2GhLY3MEK321fQ
wait thats crazy
wet bay
wait thats crazy
Why do I put on Spilo and see you on JQ
He just said you're killing it on the wrecking ball
cosmic socket
Why do I put on Spilo and see you on JQ
me n spilo just chill like that
cosmic socket
...
wet bay
Though I got the Sym anyways 🙏
cosmic socket
its so bad
static turret
Another main support to be funneled into europe i fear (just kidding PLEASE GO T...
Why would he go to a worse team tho
wet bay
Why would he go to a worse team tho
It's fine he's going to onside 🙏
torn portal
the only way he would leave is for a huge offer or zeta is finished
wet bay
I see the vision they will win soop cup with viol2t flex supp
torn portal
only him?
static pond
the only way he would leave is for a huge offer or zeta is finished
He’s prob looking at the market
wet bay
Zeta aren't in soop cup so obviously declined the invite right? It would make sense they do that if they're splitting
static pond
T1 just picked up a player
static pond
It also can be a April fools joke
wet bay
New kr team incoming
Why would they do another team of mostly the same players
static pond
Idk bruh kr ahead in time
static turret
Idk
wet bay
Isn't someone rumoured to falcons
static pond
Ya
static turret
He’s not rumored anywhere rn
Also hanbin is learning Winston chances are they just keep him
static pond
He dealing with something between t1 and falcons
Idk if it still going on but rumors is he can’t play
wet bay
Just sounds like an upgrade to me
static pond
Merlt can’t flex
Like at all
Nowadays I think it better to have a hitscan that can flex to tracer
wet bay
Nowadays I think it better to have a hitscan that can flex to tracer
Flora is not good at Tracer
And Bernar hero pool has been holding them back for sure which wouldn't be an issue with Someone
Though idk how likely some sort of new team would be anyways
static pond
And Bernar hero pool has been holding them back for sure which wouldn't be an is...
Tonight this was due to zeta playing a lot of dva base comps
static pond
I just think someone lacks in the skill celling of Hanbin and junbin
wet bay
Though they also had some stupid bans like. Goes to Gibraltar with a Dva player and doesn't protect
static pond
Though they also had some stupid bans like. Goes to Gibraltar with a Dva player ...
I still remember the violet esports World Cup beat
wet bay
Viol2t is feast and famine everyone knows
static pond
I don’t understand how zeta strugglers tho they have a good team but just can’t get it together
wet bay
I wanna see him go to Onside and perma flex supp. Either that or replace Vindaim and get Maka or something (though probably not likely lol)
Aren't Zeta a partner team though
static pond
I wanna see him go to Onside and perma flex supp. Either that or replace Vindaim...
Onside?
wet bay
New ftg name
static pond
New ftg name
Oh ftg sounds cooler
wet bay
There's not many players they can get to upgrade really. Idk who is better than viol2t on MS except top 2 teams
wet bay
Oh ftg sounds cooler
Yeah but they need the money
static pond
True
static pond
There's not many players they can get to upgrade really. Idk who is better than ...
Prob just t1 but they just picked up vigi
T1 lacks a ms?
wet bay
They don't have a Lucio yea
static pond
Prob try to get Violet
wet bay
But why would you hire Vigi and not just let Viol2t do both
Maybe they just didn't expect it
static pond
Ya
Zeta hast announced Violet leaving
Just realize it might be leesoomin but idk if he leaves way
Maybe after soop cup
hybrid hollow
I don’t understand how zeta strugglers tho they have a good team but just can’t ...
They're just more inconsistent than the other two honestly
torn portal
Viol2t is feast and famine everyone knows
Even when he’s feasting he’s throwing
Like he’ll only hit headshots and get multiple picks a fight on illari and then shoot his ult into a wall every time
He just whiffs under zero pressure
mortal cipher
https://x.com/owcesports/status/1905348858340651104?s=46
T1 lucio lol
mortal cipher
Even when he’s feasting he’s throwing
man hasnt been the same since that King's Row incident
wet bay
man hasnt been the same since that King's Row incident
Funny thing is I don't know which one of them you're talking about 😭
He must be rolling in cash with all these throws
loud hound
esports
mortal cipher
Funny thing is I don't know which one of them you're talking about 😭
the one against the Atlanta Reign in 2021
but good point
static turret
That one was famous
mortal cipher
static turret
Peaking a prime Kai
On kr
Keep in mind that series was determining who was going to grand finals
mortal cipher
he wasnt even peaking he was jumping on Bap to just to contest the point and ended up getting sniped
static turret
I think
robust patio
lol
mortal cipher
Keep in mind that series was determining who was going to grand finals
it was the second to last map
whoever won would go on to play Dallas Feul
static turret
They prob might have beaten Dallas but no one was beating Shanghai that year
mortal cipher
not that it mattered because whoever won would end up getting beat by Shanghai Dragons Regardless of who won in the lower bracket
static turret
Actual demonic team
mortal cipher
They prob might have beaten Dallas but no one was beating Shanghai that year
Shanghai literally was able to copy any meta and play it better than them
static turret
They had a stacked roster
mortal cipher
they straight up beat Atlanta on Rush
they beat the best rush team in a rush mirror
mortal cipher
Actual demonic team
they were determined to win and they basically won by the time they beat dallas in June
static turret
Cooked
mortal cipher
when you saw him on Hog you knew it was bad
static turret
Lip still in the league till this day
mortal cipher
Lip WhoRu and Fleta to extent are the only players of 2020-2022 roster still active
and i guess you could count Diya as well
static turret
Fleta a coach right
mortal cipher
Fleta a coach right
for T1 Ye
mortal cipher
ye
static turret
Top western teams vs kr
mortal cipher
i hope Diya gets his redemption arc like Fearless got
static turret
Diya is on roc?
mortal cipher
i hope we get a Western vs Eastern rivalry
mortal cipher
Diya is on roc?
yep
static turret
Ah
mortal cipher
if he makes Hangzhou or at the least wins a tourney that would be amazing
static turret
Roc is solid but it’s hard to say how’d they compare bc China teams outside of like 3 are trash
mortal cipher
ROC and OA and i think maybe team CC
static turret
Pineapple is crazy good
mortal cipher
Roc is solid but it’s hard to say how’d they compare bc China teams outside of l...
ye
i think OA and ROC make it unless a crazy upset
prob team CC or Super Levi
static turret
They play in the same servers as kr so they should scrim with them
Which already gives them a boost in matchup quality
mortal cipher
ye
mortal cipher
They play in the same servers as kr so they should scrim with them
i would like to see a non Korea Korea Final
torn portal
Fleta a coach right
He should highkey sub in for flex dps i think he could make a difference
mortal cipher
He should highkey sub in for flex dps i think he could make a difference
Freja would be a good Fleta hero
i mean the man managed to Diff beloresa on Winston
I do think if Fleta couldve stayed as the off tank it wouldve been better because he almost took a map off the spark on Sig
wet bay
i hope Diya gets his redemption arc like Fearless got
I watched back the match where he got potm despite losing
He was actually farming just getting multi kills every fight on widow
They got a draw at least 😭
On hanamura
mortal cipher
I watched back the match where he got potm despite losing
he was the only to get potg in a losing effort because he was diffiing everyone on widow
that writing he made was fire
wet bay
I think Little Sheep will do well against OA
Alphari was goated yesterday
Nvm fuck little sheep
Was about to root for them then see they are apparently paid boosters and were insulting a bunch of teams
OA got it 3-0
🙏
sullen berry
Nvm fuck little sheep
same energy, OA (left) vs Little Sheep (right)
sullen berry
that was the entire point of London Spitfire's 12-man roster from the start
Fissure didn't want to be treated as Gesture's backup
that's how he almost singlehandedly winded up upgrading the gladiators, bro had something to prove
wet bay
that was the entire point of London Spitfire's 12-man roster from the start
The subs they made seemed so random lol
Like every now and then woohyal randomly comes in on Dva for no apparent reason or hagopeun
static turret
Cas meta ?
arctic cedar
mortal cipher
looks like way is disbanded
Then where’s WhoRu
rugged quest
Then where’s WhoRu
hes lft
sullen berry
https://x.com/OW_PEPPI/status/1905609441803993376
https://fxtwitter.com/OW_PEPPI/status/1905609441803993376 I replaced the url to get any media to load/play
FxTwitter
mortal cipher
way got disbanded
Maybe or just open option
static turret
Maybe or just open option
They have no sponsor I think it might be a funding issue
In my honest opinion t1 sign way and make a run for a ring
Or a top 4 finish if way continue to be good
mortal cipher
They have no sponsor I think it might be a funding issue
Might be, usually with these other orgs since it’s not offical they usually do one then make another org or hope a org finds them
mortal cipher
In my honest opinion t1 sign way and make a run for a ring
Or at least sign a few like maybe Peppi for off
mortal cipher
Fnatic is historically awful
mortal cipher
They won’t come back b
Probably for EMEA
but Fnatic are just horrid in terms of being good at anything
static turret
There’s gonna be some big changes tn
Tho
Especially with Violet being free
But I think he’s going western
mortal cipher
Violet might do T1 or he just is looking at options and might sign back
Or a typical Violet troll
static turret
True
static turret
But finn posted saying he’d miss him
I think Violet might been the only person who left
static turret
GG
Violet to liquid
Lowkey not a bad move
Vega isn’t even bad it’s his lucio specifically
But Violet is a Ms who can double flex support
So like
You don’t need Vega
mortal cipher
Violet to liquid
Did he ???
static turret
No
mortal cipher
Oh
static turret
But
It’s not a stretch to say he will
If he goes to liquid that team makes lan 100%
mortal cipher
I think if Violet go back to a western team it will be Team Liquid if not it’s probably T1
static turret
Unter sent a picture to commanderx tho of violet signature 👀👀👀
Prob troll
Considering it’s unter
mortal cipher
It’s unter
static turret
lol
mortal cipher
Lol
mortal cipher
Surely Violet can’t Ajax vs na noobs
He already did last year lol
split flume
80kjax
mortal cipher
But then again it was Toronto so not exactly Na or noobs
static turret
He was Rupert on his team
Has*
If he goes
Can’t Ajax vs him
UV has aura tho
He’s white shu
mortal cipher
Ye tru
cosmic socket
Violet to liquid
trading an ajaxxer for another ajaxxer
static turret
trading an ajaxxer for another ajaxxer
Surprisingly Vega has ajaxed more in stage 1
mortal cipher
trading an ajaxxer for another ajaxxer
Which would you rather have a Champion Ajaxer or a player carried by 3 champions a year ago
cosmic socket
im gonna stand on vega being a good player
most flexible main support in na
hes just awful at the most important hero in his role
mortal cipher
i guess out of NA ye
neon dome
Hey everyone where can I watch replays of the China region matches? I wanna watch Once Again's but I can't find it anywhere
glass sleet
most flexible main support in na
How can you be most flexible ms when you suck on brig Lucio. People can act blind but the real ones know admiral is the most flexible western ms
And he’s actually good on Lucio
faint yoke
Surprisingly Vega has ajaxed more in stage 1
Mel 🙁
cosmic socket
How can you be most flexible ms when you suck on brig Lucio. People can act blin...
im mainly talking his ability to play double flex
also his brig wasnt that bad
like he looked good on kiri zen
glass sleet
If he looked good on zen than you’re just not watching ntmr
Cuz there’s no way you’d say he’s better than admiral
glass sleet
im mainly talking his ability to play double flex
On the edge of being an illary one trick
cosmic socket
ok what about the most flexible support
you are insane
torn portal
what
cosmic socket
like clinically proven insanity
torn portal
vega is just white viol2t
queen island
viol2t at least farms 7 beats in 10 minutes
he gets to ajax
bc he farms twice the beats compared to any other ms
warm osprey
guys ! when is the next esports twitch drop coming outtt
wet bay
Hey everyone where can I watch replays of the China region matches? I wanna watc...
Commanderx vods on youtube
wet bay
X
I guess this means xzodyal to peps
But idk why they drop Sauna
Also all of WAY just posted LFT so that team is done for
mortal cipher
wet bay
They put this guy on Winston
worn falcon
Rip sauna
static pond
Also all of WAY just posted LFT so that team is done for
Whoru team?
wet bay
Yea
robust patio
I’m confused did soop cup aleady happen?
nah
why is roc esports losing to team cc
diya is trolling
belo fr carrying esports
pineapple is insane kinda
belo locked in
choi is infact a better tracer than diya @mortal cipher @torn portal
ripe bough
sheeesh
static pond
choi is infact a better tracer than diya <@335792305363615744> <@817060979392643...
Thought pineapple was the flex dps
wise orbit
absolute kino match rn
how does this man keep getting high noon kills
THE REVERSE SWEEP
wet bay
3-0verwatch into that
robust patio
roc esports washed
rugged quest
X
sullen berry
I’m confused did soop cup aleady happen?
soop cup runs at the same time as OWCS China
sullen berry
Hey everyone where can I watch replays of the China region matches? I wanna watc...
https://space.bilibili.com/3546768044198648/upload/video they're reuploaded the day after the matches end on bilibili
weary scarab
yo what they doin in my 6v6 game
torn portal
choi is infact a better tracer than diya <@335792305363615744> <@817060979392643...
why is my poor pineapple off roling
torn portal
https://x.com/Saunamestari/status/1905967081968799875
NOOOOOOOOOO
SAUNAAAAAAAAAAAA
split flume
ye
static turret
GAGA to lan would be peak
glass sleet
Damn https://x.com/OWCEsports/status/1905736972846703070?t=Ec6Z9X3xbPnVS-b--CWIb...
Xzodyal to geng
slate siren
So OA is just 10x better than every other team
i mean yeah
no team can touch OA in china
i feel they can also upset either one of falcons/cr
torn portal
GAGA to lan would be peak
woah team CC are so good….especially faraway1987
would be awesome if i could his crosshair settings maybe 👀
sullen berry
ROC either throw to get seed 3 or have to play against OA in single elim
strategic throwing
mortal cipher
They put this guy on Winston
Well going from Flex Dps to Main tank is hard
mortal cipher
choi is infact a better tracer than diya <@335792305363615744> <@817060979392643...
well diya is main a hitscan
mortal cipher
ROC either throw to get seed 3 or have to play against OA in single elim
Beeg Brain
torn portal
that’s my coach
static turret
did they throw or are tjey just that bad
mortal cipher
that’s my coach
thats most Flexible player ever from Hitscan / Flex to Tank to Coach
torn portal
thats most Flexible player ever from Hitscan / Flex to Tank to Coach
“To tank”
mortal cipher
did they throw or are tjey just that bad
well they just lost one game
mortal cipher
i think so
honestly not having to play OA is prob the easy path
because OA is the best players of China
torn portal
china is fucked
mortal cipher
single elim is kinda dum
torn portal
honestly not having to play OA is prob the easy path
because OA is the best pla...
no contest really
mortal cipher
no contest really
only contest is ROC
static turret
Wait
mortal cipher
but we dont know how good they would be against OA
mortal cipher
oh
mortal cipher
i mean rn they just 1-1
mortal cipher
right now Team CC and OA are in the semis
mortal cipher
did OA verse CC
team CC is on the other bracket
static turret
Oa beat cc
mortal cipher
so not yet
static turret
Wait
torn portal
Like oa has dropped no maps
mortal cipher
well if Team CC pass semis they make GF
torn portal
roc is fumbling to gaga in 2025
mortal cipher
well Team CC was the academy team of Shanghai so the Shanghai DNA still lives lol
static turret
But blade is so shit that them losing might look intentional
I don’t think roc beats oa
mortal cipher
team CC's backline of Faraway and Pineapple and Kaneki at dps is good
static turret
Pineapple is goated
mortal cipher
ye
static turret
And Gaga to lan would feed families
mortal cipher
Gaga is still good
split flume
oa 3-0's every team in the region
torn portal
This roster is not korean enough to compete with OA
HJD was able to
But cut half the players
replace with chinese subs
finished
static turret
Is it just a avoid oa at all cost angle
mortal cipher
Bro been out of the pro scene for 4 years
he was part of Charge last year
static turret
Ah
static turret
Judging by how soop goes
mortal cipher
OWL was a long time ago pal
lol
static turret
I think we will get a accurate representation of teams
mortal cipher
didnt know Team CC had superich at support
static turret
How did fluffy dreamland fall off so hard
They beat nrg in stage 4 and now they’re in losers bracket’s of faceit masters division
torn portal
They beat nrg in stage 4 and now they’re in losers bracket’s of faceit masters d...
I think fuckin EDM (Emote Down Mid) beat them
The durpee team
torn portal
oh ye
torn portal
edm beat amplify i think
static turret
There’s actually a chance we will GapEwanFone vs gap Ewan fone
sullen berry
didnt know Team CC had superich at support
superrich's chinese btag is a direct translation from chinese -
Hao Yo Qian
vernal shoal
yo someone explain why gen g thought its a good idea to sign 2 hitscan?
hybrid hollow
yo someone explain why gen g thought its a good idea to sign 2 hitscan?
Xzodyal topdragon?
topdragon ain't touching hitscan no time soon I fear
static turret
Did geng sign Xzo ?
They might aswell sign Violet while we’re at it
And get rid of mag and sign heesung
And get rid of topdrafon
static turret
I guess top dragon is a hs now 💀
glass sleet
Sauna and topdragon aren’t hs
glass sleet
They’re both flex
glass sleet
That’s the conditions of being a hs?
static turret
But top dragon is 100% a flex dps
static turret
That’s the conditions of being a hs?
I guess
glass sleet
Maybe they get xzodyal
static turret
Playing 1 match of hs= hs
glass sleet
That’s an upgrade
static turret
But we’re keeping bottomdragon 💔
vernal shoal
Sauna and topdragon aren’t hs
tf was Sauna playin HS for back in the day then?
torn portal
tf was Sauna playin HS for back in the day then?
it’s world cup sometimes u settle
that’s when sauna did it p sure
vernal shoal
he also played hs in contenders from what ive heard
glass sleet
tf was Sauna playin HS for back in the day then?
When? He only played Ashe when shockwave wasn’t playing for VP. sauna is a fdps
glass sleet
BrightSide and Xzodyal
Geng got brightside?
vernal shoal
ye
vernal shoal
When? He only played Ashe when shockwave wasn’t playing for VP. sauna is a fdps
someone here said thats what he was runnin in contenders
hybrid hollow
BrightSide and Xzodyal
The Saudi guy is there for reserve most likely
hybrid hollow
When? He only played Ashe when shockwave wasn’t playing for VP. sauna is a fdps
He's kinda like proper but not a top 3 hitscan
It isn't his role but he'll play it if he has to
glass sleet
He's kinda like proper but not a top 3 hitscan
I’d say more like Tr33
hybrid hollow
Yeah
hybrid hollow
Pretty much
glass sleet
https://x.com/geng_gold/status/1906028584604504113
Called it
robust patio
oa is just better
static turret
https://x.com/ericmperez_/status/1906042619563524524?s=46
Is that cuffa and clear
hybrid hollow
https://x.com/ericmperez_/status/1906042619563524524?s=46
Mind you he lowkey grown asl doing this
Bro like 17-18
torn portal
Is that cuffa and clear
infekted if he wasn’t with two bum coachws
hybrid hollow
wai t who’s kiriko
She's a support player for Winthrop iirc
torn portal
wait awesome
torn portal
She's a support player for Winthrop iirc
is her name rakattack or ultraviolet
hybrid hollow
is her name rakattack or ultraviolet
erm no
torn portal
not on winthrop then
hybrid hollow
Idk if she's ever played a match but she's always in the facility and it's in her twitter bio so
torn portal
update the winthrop liquidpedia then
hybrid hollow
Don't nobody care bout that Winthrop liquipedia ✌🏾😭
Plus they historically suck at tracking non t1 players especially ones outside of open division and contenders
hybrid hollow
he is?
torn portal
tr33 dropped it
hybrid hollow
how much money is Winthrop losing to ow players I gotta know
torn portal
zeruhh s9mn
torn portal
how much money is Winthrop losing to ow players I gotta know
coluge still paid
hybrid hollow
Zeruhh s9mm tree Rupal uv Infekted rak and probably more I'm forgetting
hybrid hollow
I think lyar was there at one point too
hybrid hollow
They're still on the roster?
torn portal
ye
cosmic socket
why ntmr signed a founding father
hybrid hollow
Somehow better than Boston
static turret
Choi hyo bin
Xzo to Gen g and they’re signing Violet and heesung
Dropping top dragon
Sir Majed comes back from Korea and is the best eu fs
static turret
Idk but roc has to lose this match or fight oa for a lan spot
We’re gonna see Gaga back in lan
Which is crazy
hybrid hollow
Haven't consumed ow content in so long
static turret
We’re really letting washed ass players sneak into lan
hybrid hollow
I'm healing
torn portal
Dropping top dragon
why are you cooking up the next big roster
static turret
Haven't consumed ow content in so long
All I watch is Owcs
hybrid hollow
Only thing I watched was the last map of oa vs cc
static turret
I haven’t touched the game
static turret
why are you cooking up the next big roster
Heesung goes to west and is the best tank
static turret
The chi is a good show
hybrid hollow
I'm just now getting hip
Coogie was my favorite character then bro died before episode 3 💔
torn portal
would rather binge all 6 seasons of the chi and all of black mirror
pge tho
hybrid hollow
pge tho
I be throwing on pge in the background while I'm doing shit but ion be watching
Just pull up the stream and turn the volume down
torn portal
I be throwing on pge in the background while I'm doing shit but ion be watching
trung video up and you not watching
you changed man.
hybrid hollow
you changed man.
robust patio
hm
torn portal
https://x.com/cdhuntersfacts/status/1788615810488877463?s=46
demontic u see this?
knowledge is power you know
static turret
https://tenor.com/view/nyet967102-ashton-hall-gif-16822387836099771007
You is not hoopin
hybrid hollow
You is not hoopin
wet bay
But blade is so shit that them losing might look intentional
They can just play stupid comps to lose, say that they worked in scrims. Surely they can't get banned for that. As long as they're not intentionally/obviously feeding or c9 it should be fine. The only issue is that Blade also have an incentive to throw lol
wet bay
And get rid of mag and sign heesung
Heesung is going to TU apparently
wet bay
That's what Varuna said and they got the whole roster right for stage 1
Now they say dropping ksaa chase and faith, and pick up Heesung
Kinda disappointed I was having fun seeing him on FTG but at least he might make lan now if it's true
robust patio
Kinda disappointed I was having fun seeing him on FTG but at least he might make...
yep
wet bay
Heesung is the goat he will stomp on these EU tanks
Maybe Heesung can teach Christfer dive 😭
glass sleet
Now they say dropping ksaa chase and faith, and pick up Heesung
They’re dropping KSAA and chase for heesung?
wet bay
They’re dropping KSAA and chase for heesung?
He's better than them and better hero pool
glass sleet
glass sleet
He's better than them and better hero pool
I’d keep KSAA to play off tank
Heesung doesn’t have the dva in him
wet bay
Heesung plays DVA but idk how it compares
His best heroes are Winston, Hazard
He also played some ball
glass sleet
Winton hazard mainly. So KSAA can play mauga ram, and dva
Or zarya
A lot of heroes heesung doesn’t play
wet bay
He might be able to play those I'm not sure
glass sleet
And his English tho. He never played on mixed roster so what if they have communication issues
wet bay
Chris said he thinks having more than one tank is more of a weakness
glass sleet
He might be able to play those I'm not sure
You’re really gonna drop kaaa for “might”?
glass sleet
Chris said he thinks having more than one tank is more of a weakness
He doesn’t know how to coach
wet bay
You’re really gonna drop kaaa for “might”?
I'm sure the person hiring him knows what the guy plays
glass sleet
TU should change their coach
glass sleet
I'm sure the person hiring him knows what the guy plays
He also thought he knew what faith played
Guess he didn’t
wet bay
He doesn’t know how to coach
Speaking down on coach of the year christfer 😔
Christferfan on twitter not gonna be happy about this
glass sleet
I wish they’d change the roster lock to after hero bans
wet bay
He also thought he knew what faith played
Well he did know he just thought he would be good
glass sleet
Well he did know he just thought he would be good
Did he not watch him?
You gotta study the player you wanna get
He said “faith is the player I really wanted to sign”
wet bay
Well if he got Heesung he would be cooking
glass sleet
Shows
glass sleet
Well if he got Heesung he would be cooking
Too many question marks honestly
wet bay
Nah Heesung did well on Zeta and did well this stage
Can play Hazard and Ball which most EU tanks suck at
glass sleet
Nah Heesung did well on Zeta and did well this stage
With top tier players who happen to be Korean.
Being on a mixed roster is different
glass sleet
Nah Heesung did well on Zeta and did well this stage
And they dropped him btw
glass sleet
He was probably the best on FTG this stage
Still doesn’t address my point
He’s super young and new to this level. He hasn’t even had a whole year of playing. Idk if he’ll be performing on the same level going to KSA and being on a vastly different environment
And language barrier
wet bay
And they dropped him btw
They also put Alphayi in over Pelican and don't protect Bernar DVA on Gibraltar
wet bay
He’s super young and new to this level. He hasn’t even had a whole year of playi...
Well yeah that's the biggest gamble about it
glass sleet
Well yeah that's the biggest gamble about it
So wouldn’t you at least keep a tank
wet bay
But his play so far has looked good
glass sleet
Be smart about your gamble not stupid
wet bay
So wouldn’t you at least keep a tank
Idk this is just what twitter leaker said
But they've got everything right before
glass sleet
Also they should change the system back to reward having two tanks.
Having subs is just a weakness now
wet bay
Idk, this one lets more budget rosters have a better chance
Forces one tricks to learn other heroes or lose
robust patio
i just wanna see heesung reach lan
glass sleet
I wouldn’t say TU are one tricks
robust patio
my plan is working
cosmic socket
except for kai
robust patio
just make low korean team to na or eu
wet bay
I wouldn’t say TU are one tricks
I mean Twilight kinda is and Chase is always put in for Winston
glass sleet
except for kai
TU would’ve been so so so much better with xzodyal but sadly he went to geng
wet bay
If you have a guy like Heesung who can play Winston, Hazard, Ball and Dva to good levels why would you want to have Chase who can get easily banned out
cosmic socket
i was thinking he might go tu
glass sleet
I mean Twilight kinda is and Chase is always put in for Winston
Chase been playing ball hazard and winton all of stage. Twilight was doing good on Ana kiriko and zen. I don’t see how they’re one tricks
cosmic socket
tu had other problems outside of kai being a soj merchant tho
geng is just the smarter move
wet bay
Chase been playing ball hazard and winton all of stage. Twilight was doing good ...
But Chase is just worse at those than the Korean guy
glass sleet
tu had other problems outside of kai being a soj merchant tho
Kev xzodyal would’ve been the best dps duo this stage
wet bay
The whole thing with Skai and Twilight both being there is weird to me
glass sleet
The whole thing with Skai and Twilight both being there is weird to me
Let’s get two supports known for their Ana
What a genius
wet bay
I've never really rated Skai anyways
I'm surprised Chris wanted him back after that disaster on London
Maybe he just can't accept that he is just a brawl coach
rugged quest
Being on a mixed roster is different
Well yeah, but people also said this about jaewoo
heesung is the biggest up and coming tank talent in the world
might be a gamble you want to take
static turret
Chris said he thinks having more than one tank is more of a weakness
Chris is a idiot
The 2 best teams in the world have 2 tanks
Falcons have 1 atm but they’ll pick up another prob
rugged quest
A lot of heroes heesung doesn’t play
He does?
Getting benched by bernar who is nearly best itw on alot tanks doesnt mean that he doesnt play them
static turret
Heesung was there for Winston gameplay mostly
rugged quest
Yeah i know but only because he had bernar on his team
static turret
Heesung clears any western tank tho so he’s fine
glass sleet
Getting benched by bernar who is nearly best itw on alot tanks doesnt mean that ...
No one said that’s the reason or even brought it up
glass sleet
Yeah i know but only because he had bernar on his team
Clearly bernar playing monkey and getting rolled was the best example on why they didn’t need a main tank player
wise orbit
whats the argument
oh yea I think heesung would probably be better than chase or ksaa
I mean that guy is crazy flexible no? I feel like he diffs both of them on every hero except ksaas mauga
wise orbit
that seemed to be his plan with chase but they didn't play that much dive in emea for some reason
even though other regions found alot of success with it
wise orbit
but they pretty much never played it i feel like
glass sleet
I mean that guy is crazy flexible no? I feel like he diffs both of them on every...
No
wise orbit
maybe it didn't work out in scrims
I think chase is good though but it's ahrd to compare him to different regions
static turret
As of rn it looks like Winston hazard dva
Some type of meta
Heesung can cover Winston and hazard
wise orbit
hell even dva
wise orbit
he plays all of them at a high level
static turret
A Korean B tier is a emea A tier
wise orbit
don't rule out his dva just because he plays traditional main tanks for the most part
glass sleet
oh yea I think heesung would probably be better than chase or ksaa
I’m saying why don’t you keep heesung and KSAA for off tanks. And in case heesung can’t speak English at all. It’s honestly almost as big of a gamble as getting faith
glass sleet
don't rule out his dva just because he plays traditional main tanks for the most...
He didn’t look that good on dva
static turret
I thought we were talking about heesung
glass sleet
bernar found a lot of success with dva no?
That’s why he played winton into raccoon
static turret
Hanbin is an exception
wise orbit
well no one needs any hero ig but koreans play dva
glass sleet
u said koreans dont need dva
2 of the top 3 Korean tanks play dva not monkey
So idk about your statement
wise orbit
i didnt say that
static turret
Hanbinnwinsron *
wise orbit
That’s why he played winton into raccoon
that was gib right
glass sleet
Hanbinnwinsron *
I badly wanna say he’s the goat but it was clear that falcons were lifting
static turret
Hanbin got carried 70% of the gib match
wise orbit
I’m saying why don’t you keep heesung and KSAA for off tanks. And in case heesun...
idk language barrier can be an issue but I think he's flexible enough to be better as a solo tank
static turret
The other 30% he was making plays and getting crucial picks
wise orbit
Hanbin got carried 70% of the gib match
THANK YOU
glass sleet
idk language barrier can be an issue but I think he's flexible enough to be bett...
I think being the solo tank and can’t communicate with your team is a very big issue
wise orbit
everyone has been glazing hanbins winston
he basically did the bare minimum and his dps carried
glass sleet
And the fact he’s never been on a mixed roster
You can’t expect the same level of performance
static turret
everyone has been glazing hanbins winston
It’s cus his good plays are like legit S tier lol
And it overrides his ass
wise orbit
yea like he had one good primal lol
glass sleet
It’s cus his good plays are like legit S tier lol
That’s giving him credit you know lol
static turret
But it helps that he has stalker farming Korea
static turret
That’s giving him credit you know lol
I’m glazing
wise orbit
junbin played better both times imo
wise orbit
literally never junbins fault btw he's the goat
wet bay
Anyways not like we can tell how good his English is
loud hound
esports
wise orbit
if his english is good definitely sign him
glass sleet
I just think TU needs to stop with their stupid gambles
Gambling on a 27 year old who hasn’t played in 2 years, and really wanting faith the most out of any Korean just for them to play so poorly.
Also getting two supports known for their Ana is so unnecessary
That’s my main issue honestly.
wet bay
I'm sad ssg didn't stay together
glass sleet
I'm sad ssg didn't stay together
Wdym? They got second place NA
wet bay
Guess they wanted something new and were boomed after 8th place
glass sleet
they played
wise orbit
I hope sparkr comes back to ow
wet bay
I mean the ssg from last year
glass sleet
Guess they wanted something new and were boomed after 8th place
Ssg had no option but to dump those players. Keeping them would be so dumb
wet bay
Ssg had no option but to dump those players. Keeping them would be so dumb
They won 2/4 stages and got 3rd in Dallas
wise orbit
i think she just means she hoped the london core stayed together
org doesnt rly matter
wet bay
And I don't mean ssg specifically I mean the players staying together
glass sleet
They won 2/4 stages and got 3rd in Dallas
That was 9 months ago and it was against a team with no coach and a tm with major roster issues half the year. It wasn’t hard to be top in EU
also the fact they got 5th stage one
wet bay
I hope sparkr comes back to ow
Same I liked watching him on Cass. Rivals is boring to watch
wise orbit
I just don't like the game in general so I have no interest in their esport :p
glass sleet
I just don't like the game in general so I have no interest in their esport :p
Their esport is so micky mouse
I’m just saying that cuz I’ve never watched them or played the game
Slightly biased
wise orbit
anyway if heesung joins tu that would be awesome
we might actually get to see the man go to an international lan
wet bay
we might actually get to see the man go to an international lan
I'm just sad that my two favourite players from FTG aren't gonna be there if it happens
At least Vigi might cook on T1
Though WAY seem to be splitting up so it's possible Maka and Peppi to FTG or something like that
wise orbit
I hope we have the same amount of teams at ewc this year
it was cool seeing so much talent that usually miss out on lans be there
also xzo to gen.g is pretty big I hope they do better next stage
sad that they dropped sauna though
wet bay
Idk if they will improve that much
wise orbit
I think their comps with hitscan heroes will be like night and day
wet bay
Yeah but I felt like Sauna was a good part of the team
wise orbit
idk why they dropped him actually
they signed 2 random saudis for whatever reason and both of them fill a role that they already had covered
static turret
Idk why they kept shitdragon
rugged quest
No one said that’s the reason or even brought it up
What? You listed heroes that heesung "doesnt play", while he actually does. The only reason you think he doesnt is because of heesung being behind bernar in alot of metas
wise orbit
like why sign brightside if you're gonna sign xzo and then drop sauna
you never play double hitscan anyway
rugged quest
like why sign brightside if you're gonna sign xzo and then drop sauna
sel
rugged quest
Clearly bernar playing monkey and getting rolled was the best example on why the...
how does that relate to anything i said
rugged quest
I thought you needed 3 Saudi for that
it was lowered to 2
wise orbit
ohhhh
rugged quest
mag-topdragon-xzod-crispy-khenail
wise orbit
glass sleet
What? You listed heroes that heesung "doesnt play", while he actually does. The ...
No it has nothing to do with bernar stop saying that omg
wise orbit
Questionable
Idk I think it can work, crusty was just hell-bent on not playing to his strengths for whatever reason
glass sleet
I never mentioned bernar being why heesung isn’t that flexible holy
rugged quest
No it has nothing to do with bernar stop saying that omg
Dude he has played all of the heroes you mentioned before
youre just talking out of your ass
glass sleet
Dude he has played all of the heroes you mentioned before
Picking a hero and knowing how to play that hero at the highest level aren’t the same
I can pick heroes in the lobby too
rugged quest
I can pick heroes in the lobby too
You havent even seen heesung play those heroes and claim he doesnt know how to
glass sleet
You havent even seen heesung play those heroes and claim he doesnt know how to
Mf? Now you’re accusing I’m not watching the games
Holy
You’re fucking wild
rugged quest
Mf? Now you’re accusing I’m not watching the games
No, you just didnt know about heesung before owcs
he hasnt played alot of heroes in owcs because he played next to bernar who plays the heroes you mentioned, mauga, dva, ram etc
but heesung can play those heroes
you claimed he cant
mortal cipher
superrich's chinese btag is a direct translation from chinese -
ye i figured there was a lot of named that just when you click it shows theyre actual name like Chuu - Molly
wise orbit
but heesung has played a decent amount of dva and ram in owcs no? at least on ftg
split flume
heesung next junbin lmk
rugged quest
but heesung has played a decent amount of dva and ram in owcs no? at least on ft...
This guy is tripping thinking heesung cant cover pretty much every tank while playing in emea
wise orbit
yea idk
rugged quest
the only possible problem is language barrier
wise orbit
I think he's a ksaa fan so he might be a bit biased :P
I think heesung clears both chase and ksaa on pretty much every hero though except ksaas mauga
wise orbit
idk I feel like 1 tank teams usually do better
wise orbit
yea u basically tell the opposing team what u are planning to do when u sub in the main tank guy or off tank guy
and then they can ban around it
I can see the point for like winston maps or sigma maps but still
I feel like cr for example usually do better with junbin even when the map is better for sigma
rugged quest
I feel like cr for example usually do better with junbin even when the map is be...
yep especially with no circuit in the pool
havana is rly the only no brainer sig map
wise orbit
doesn't heesung have a pretty good sigma too btw?
wise orbit
bro might be the new someone
rugged quest
He still has room to grow but he would feast in emea for sure
wet bay
Yeah he's looked good on everything I've seen him play
robust patio
He still has room to grow but he would feast in emea for sure
defo
vagrant mason
in my opinion The transition from the Overwatch League (OWL) to the Overwatch Champions Series (OWCS) has fundamentally changed the competitive landscape of Overwatch, leading to the loss of the sense of progression and tradition that made the league special. It’s like mixing the NFL with college football—where instead of seeing established teams with rich histories face off, you’re now watching professional teams play against unpredictable, less-experienced squads. This shift has stripped the competitive integrity of the game, eliminating the fantasy of contenders working their way up the ranks to earn a spot in a structured, franchised league. In doing so, the OWCS has effectively killed Overwatch esports, diminishing the appeal and engagment of the sport's competitive scene.
sullen berry
in my opinion The transition from the Overwatch League (OWL) to the Overwatch Ch...
they're having a break until the international champions clash, they'll be back in 2 weeks
wet bay
sullen berry
LMAOnel willing to be both a team player for ROC abnd SMM for Once Again
I think Diya can channel his former SHD S1 winrate if they're gonna need it during playoffs
robust patio
lel
static turret
XX just got folded
ancient marlin
Is junker queen goated?
sullen berry
XX just got folded
though not as hard as Super Levi
who will be playing against Once Again
they might be the only team they prepare for, or they'll get stomped despite the jimmy buff
rugged quest
in my opinion The transition from the Overwatch League (OWL) to the Overwatch Ch...
"eliminating the fantasy of contenders working their way up"? You literally had no way of working your way up into owl as an org unless you had a bag of 20 million to throw at them. You didnt get a spot in owl by "earning your way there", you did it by being rich to begin with and being stupid enough to make a horrible financial decision. Franchising is the opposite of earning something, its buying your way up using money that has nothing to do with your prior success in the scene
Meanwhile in owcs any org has the chance to qualify and win the most prestigious events by performing well. Your argument is straight up the wrong way around. You can say that owl was a better product to watch because of how much money was pumped into it, but that was never sustainable
rugged quest
And how does having teams that would get beaten by contenders teams keep their owl spot increase competitive integrity? How isnt the best teams being in the best league/tournaments competitive integrity? Also there is a promotion relegation system in owcs now, so similar to contenders but you can actually make it to tier1 unlike during owl...
weak frost
throwing competition in owcs China rn
both teams genuinely trying to lose, absolute cinema
robust patio
both teams genuinely trying to lose, absolute cinema
🤣 🤣 🤣
i can feel OA’S aura without even watching 💀
they aura farming
weak frost
robust patio
we seeing bastion symm meta again
static turret
And how does having teams that would get beaten by contenders teams keep their o...
Faceit is basically t2 and making t1 is a lot easier now if your good
In owl you couldn’t bring your team from contenders you had to get signed
Bro they were genuinely throwing
Choi was shooing walls
And Belo was just rolling around doint 0 dmg
mortal cipher
diya's locked in so hard he made the enemy lucio ajax
Diya was not having it
static turret
Roc c9 twice in the same submap
mortal cipher
Oof
cosmic socket
owl had more aura but owcs is the better system and has way more potential
weak frost
i could never get into owl cause of the stupid ass american franchise naming scheme dumb ass themes ngl
owcs is way better in every way except for the money ig
glass sleet
Now that Viol2t left zeta, maybe he can join a team with someone and merit
I find it hard to imagine him on a team with anyone else
hybrid hollow
I mean that's if he stays in Korea
glass sleet
I mean that's if he stays in Korea
What team do you think he’d go to? Whoever pays the most?
I think he still wants to be in Korea and be on a top tier team. One with merit someone, violet as the core sounds right
glass sleet
I mean that's if he stays in Korea
He joins TM and they have an Irony Viol2t backline 🧠
amber basalt
vagrant mason
"eliminating the fantasy of contenders working their way up"? You literally had ...
I see your point about franchising being a pay-to-enter system, but OWL still gave the league structure, stability, and long-term investment. Yes, OWCS allows any org to qualify, but at the cost of consistency and team identity. Now, instead of well-defined teams that built fanbases and rivalries, we have a constantly rotating cast of organizations with no history in the scene. As for competitive integrity, OWL wasn’t perfect, but keeping the best teams in the league long-term allowed for growth, strategy, and player development. A promotion/relegation system sounds good on paper, but in practice, it leads to instability—top orgs will struggle to build loyal fanbases when teams can appear and disappear from the scene overnight.
At the end of the day, OWCS might be more 'fair' in a vacuum, but it comes at the cost of a recognizable, stable esport. Accessibility doesn’t always mean better.
torn portal
I would never go to a team with hadi willingly
I actually really fw ur geng idea
for viol2t and the rest
kill mag, kill topdragon, pickup viol2t, pickup heesung, bring back sauna
roster is saced
static turret
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s happening
torn portal
and kill crispy
torn portal
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s happening
Too much murder people would start asking questions
glass sleet
I would never go to a team with hadi willingly
DAMN
torn portal
u think?
static turret
Yea
glass sleet
kill mag, kill topdragon, pickup viol2t, pickup heesung, bring back sauna
That’s it? No major changes?
static turret
Zeta have been grinding so hard and they’re catching up slwowly
Also
The slots will change in the future apparently
glass sleet
I think Violet will go back to zeta
Idk tbh. It just seems he wouldn’t fit in with those guys
static turret
By whoever does good/bad
static turret
Idk tbh. It just seems he wouldn’t fit in with those guys
True
torn portal
That’s it? No major changes?
Crusty would make these kinda changes tbf