esports-discussion

[robust patio]

so i told him to dm sp9rkle

u got links?

[jolly pecan]

Im in germany europe region

I play mostly as reaper silver 5

and junkrat sometimes

[robust patio]

u r silver 5 :I

and want to join an esports team

breh

[jolly pecan]

(:

[robust patio]

u do know even gm1 gets denied

[jolly pecan]

than i do youtube a little

[robust patio]

being a youtuber wont up your chance still

:I

maybe first try and ranking up

to at least masters

[jolly pecan]

yes

[robust patio]

or low gm

[torn portal]

maybe in bingo

[hazy marsh]

the scam is so obvious

"are discord mods having a degree in IT?"

this kid cant even speak proper english

[pine kayak]

Why isnt kb and mouse allowed in console? Like ffs if i play with pc friend im forced into pc pools, cant they enable it there?

[robust patio]

huh

[cold flame]

I

[mortal cipher]

Niceu

[humble cloak]

What rank are u

[robust patio]

top187

[gentle jetty]

Hi

[stray quarry]

respect the hustle

some of these players play like they’re in silver 5 so maybe a silver 5 can get it done 💔

[robust patio]

[stray quarry]

🙂‍↕️

[weary scarab]

https://x.com/xboxman08202627/status/1902426280898830769?s=46&t=6UzuKYQU2GhLY3MEK321fQ

Mag🌽 (@xboxman08202627) on X

“Bring back 6v6” mfs are blocking this out their memories

X · Mar 19, 2025, 6:25 PM

[viscid hatch]

Bad balance was issue, not 6v6

[static turret]

5v5 is better for the game

[viscid hatch]

How so?

[cosmic socket]

i think matchmaking is just too shotty for 6v6 to be good

having one less potentially bad teammate makes you feel a lot more impact

[viscid hatch]

Yeah I agree with that, but I think there is also an opposite effect of 1 bad teammate feels worse in 5v5 because they are a larger percentage of your team, and feels even worse if it is tank

[viscid hatch]

Matchmaking is proabbly best argument

[torn portal]

wouldn’t you try to compete at lower levels first ofc?

make connections

you know

be a real player

this makes it sound so simple when it’s really not tho LOL esports is hard

[robust patio]

yes

[robust patio]

in korea, u first join an esports academy

[torn portal]

weird

[robust patio]

and then play academy vs academy

[torn portal]

u don’t have a dedicated open tier 2

[robust patio]

then if u r good enough then u move up to semi pro scrims

then huge esports company will either pick u or

the academy will make a suggestion saying u r good

just like a uni application

[robust patio]

this process is the hardest

[torn portal]

i think faceit should be in asia as well

in some way or another

[robust patio]

basically being good among the academy

makes u 0.1%

[torn portal]

faceit masters and lower levels below that even

[robust patio]

eh

[torn portal]

it would be interesting to try? korea approach sounds

challenging

[robust patio]

esports progamer is considered a real job in korea at least

[torn portal]

damn

[robust patio]

so academy is prob the possible way

but yea for asia tho

faceit would be nice

but not for korea

cus lvl of academy and faceit will be insanely huge

[torn portal]

give yall fpl queue tho

that’s all

the pro player ranked queue thing

[robust patio]

if the worst korean academy player joined faceit

then he would be lip in na

[torn portal]

bait

[robust patio]

[torn portal]

who would you take rokit or architect

[robust patio]

current?

id still take architect

[spiral light]

i mean knife came to na and he didn’t do all that well

[robust patio]

thats for pros

im talking about like lower lvl

semi pro academy lvl

[spiral light]

like t3?

[robust patio]

uhhh ye

[spiral light]

i mean you could say like arise on shikigami

[tawny tundra]

dont listen to the haters. There are esports teams at every level. Find a discord server for an amateur league and you can find a team at your level. Many of them even have coaches to help you improve
But yeah obviously if you meant a legit pro league, you're not good enough rn

[robust patio]

idk any lower faceit lvl teams

[torn portal]

Railgun to the head would you rather pickup D0D0 or zeruhh

[spiral light]

arise he’s a korean who came to na

[torn portal]

150 railgun to your head

[robust patio]

is zeruhh hitscan

[spiral light]

no

[torn portal]

is dodo hitscan?

he’s flex

[robust patio]

i havent see zeruhh play

[torn portal]

exactly that’s why it’s bait

[robust patio]

dodo is not t3

[torn portal]

zeruhh literally won north america and got finals mvp and you don’t know? 😭

dodo my goat tho don’t get me wrong

[robust patio]

dodo would still beat him tbh

idk

u neva know until u match

[torn portal]

well that’s not a great example either

[torn portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/107255001163788288/1338955631578583070/image0.gif

[robust patio]

academy lvl is like asia gm1 ish

[spiral light]

idk any lower korean imports

[torn portal]

what is asia gm1 in na

[robust patio]

good question

[torn portal]

I mean knife lost to pge in faceit pro league

And he’s not even competing

[robust patio]

tbh idk how that happened

[torn portal]

he’s good

?

[robust patio]

pge is good?

[torn portal]

https://tenor.com/view/pge-pge4-w-tracking-meontracer-gif-9310932239315972228

[robust patio]

idk

[spiral light]

just wait for stage 2, sog will be back.

[robust patio]

ok

[torn portal]

hard to compare korea and north america especially cus it’s always fucking falcons raccoons every tournament

so nothing new happens

[robust patio]

ma boi someone will be bek ig too

[spiral light]

yeah i’m really looking forward to stage 2

and ewc

[torn portal]

someone to zeta lowkey would have the biggest impact

[robust patio]

yes

[torn portal]

bernar is the goat but he can’t match hanbinston aura

[robust patio]

he doesnt wanna go to zeta

[torn portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848976159752192050/1341222999650603088/image0.gif

[spiral light]

he’s going to falcons right

[torn portal]

likeee

[robust patio]

he wants to

[torn portal]

oh u said doesn’t

i see

[robust patio]

if he doesnt arrive in china

the hell most likely be in t1

stage2

t1 lawsuit> falcon lawsuit

[torn portal]

Donghak 💔

Donghak to zeta someone to t1 korea is saved

thoughts?

[spiral light]

y’all forgetting merit

[torn portal]

It’s tough cus they a package deal

[spiral light]

i mean i would say t1 but t1 has proud

[torn portal]

Flora and Mer1t txcxx to keep their zeta slot?

I’m such a problem solver

[spiral light]

it’s weird cus merit doesn’t fit anywhere and someone fits in every team except like cr

[torn portal]

would probably best be in falcons?

[spiral light]

yeah

[robust patio]

flora will prob be the next dps god

[torn portal]

but we’d have to cut…….and sirmajed is like half their brand…….

[spiral light]

but still tho idk cus like stalker hitscan is goated

[torn portal]

His inconsistency upsets me

[spiral light]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-no-no-no-gif-15094791629266170630

[robust patio]

stalker might join the army too

idk

[torn portal]

like he’s good

[spiral light]

sir majed to geng

[torn portal]

but flora is just suddenly amazing and then he’s just average

like

lip doesn’t have these off days

[robust patio]

idk just get t1 and zeta to na

that way well see

[spiral light]

the flora skin has been doing generational numbers

[robust patio]

the asia na gap

[spiral light]

you guys are forgetting way tho 👀

[robust patio]

get way to emea

[torn portal]

T1 loses to ntmr maybe? It would really be a hitscan struggle mostly

Proud is just that dominant

[robust patio]

this comment is useless

cus its cr falc vs na emea

[spiral light]

yeah but viper kinda sucks atm

and that backline is dreadful

[torn portal]

and zeruhh is just incredible

[robust patio]

what team is zeruhh on

[torn portal]

ultraviolet admiral is like 10x better than t1 backline im so serious

[spiral light]

ntmr

[spiral light]

not even a crazy statement

got the american shu

[spiral light]

what’re your guys predictions though?

[robust patio]

ntmr vs roc esports

[spiral light]

assuming once again is china seed 1 and roc is seed 2

[robust patio]

if ntmr wins

we might see ntmr vs CR

heesang vs zeruhh

[torn portal]

ntmr is
cuffa clear(bench)

lethal zeruhh vision(bench)

admiral ultraviolet

[spiral light]

forgot vision was on ntmr dude

[torn portal]

cuffa just gapped kellan in a lot of ways it was surprising in grand finals

[spiral light]

why did they pick up 2 hitscans

[torn portal]

he helped so much

[spiral light]

not one map played no?

[torn portal]

what if they need a tracer player…?

[spiral light]

actually i think i saw him on echo

[torn portal]

i mean sombra…?

vision has a crazy sombra

[robust patio]

my most curious match is vp vs oa

[spiral light]

i mean lethal can play a bit of tracer

[robust patio]

i wanna see how good oa is

[cosmic socket]

chat vp beats once again right

[torn portal]

Ok note that oa is apparently scrimming korea full time

[robust patio]

lel

[torn portal]

So this changes things

[robust patio]

whered u get thay info

[spiral light]

that’s actually a banger match

[torn portal]

Good question

Don’t remember

[robust patio]

[spiral light]

you guys know that ntmr is gonna be playing in the soop cup?

[torn portal]

Happens bro

[robust patio]

oa would defo beat vp

then

[torn portal]

Ok but consider that they probably can scrim korea more than vp who had zero competition basically

[robust patio]

fr?

[torn portal]

prolly good chance

[cosmic socket]

if teams are still running mauga tho

[spiral light]

apparently so , lethal mentioned it on stream today

[robust patio]

do they come on lan then?

if yes then i can meet zeruhh

[spiral light]

yeah it’s for practice , they were apparently invited to it

[robust patio]

insane

[torn portal]

i just cannot see how shockwave beats shy that would destroy me

jaewoo gaps leave tho

[robust patio]

ntmr vs roc esports would be fun

[spiral light]

what even is the roc roster

[torn portal]

choi is leaving that series a changed man

[spiral light]

ik it had choisewan right

[cosmic socket]

something something belosrea

[torn portal]

i have a vendetta against him

belerosa and choi and friends

[robust patio]

choi left?

[torn portal]

no

[robust patio]

super levi and team cc are sleeper teams

[cosmic socket]

bro china hasnt even started yet?

[torn portal]

kinda

swiss

[spiral light]

this weekend i think is playoffs

[robust patio]

march 21

[torn portal]

yep

they super speed running a bracket

[robust patio]

they did it fast tho

they had 500+ teams

[torn portal]

luckily out of all regions it shouldn’t be very competitive!

[robust patio]

now down to 16

[torn portal]

there are two orgs in all of china who’s qualifying

who’s to say

[spiral light]

once again isn’t even an org is it?

[torn portal]

they have a practice facility in hangzhou now

[spiral light]

oh cool

[torn portal]

$1000 they reveal themselves as like a Bilibili team and rename to OA Spark on stage like NRG shock

[robust patio]

oa : ex ow china world cup team
roc esports: korean imports + ow world cup backline

team cc: sh dragons academy

[torn portal]

reading the future

[spiral light]

i have never been more hyped than that nrg shock moment

[torn portal]

way too cool

[spiral light]

then the game got delayed like 200000 hours

[torn portal]

bro sleeping in his graduation gown

[spiral light]

bro and they played the ence theme song for them

LOL

[robust patio]

imagine if philadelphia fusion came back

with carpe

[spiral light]

seoul infernal*

oh owl how i miss you

[robust patio]

https://tenor.com/view/philadelphia-fusion-seoul-infernal-orange-black-white-gif-4777754764652800757

thats carpe

1v4

with widow

[spiral light]

NTMR WALK OUT ON STAGE
takes off outfits to reveal cloud 9 uninforms and the Cloud9 Spitfire are back in overwatch cinema

[spiral light]

carpe sub for t1

[robust patio]

tbh hed still play decent

[sullen berry]

Not that they have staff who can legally make this possible but they can try. IP laws from America do not apply to China

[sullen berry]

Ooh, i would hate that

Cloud9 shoul literally bring back the OGs

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Cloud9

2017 roster so goated they coined the c9 after their abysmal hold

[torn portal]

gg

i can dream

2026 oa gets skin too surely

[spiral light]

i hope the team skins come out soon

[torn portal]

predicting either start of next season or mid season next season

def

for freja it makes a lot of sense

[gentle jetty]

Yea, you are right

[robust patio]

i want cr skin

[robust patio]

me just hit gm5 in asia

[mortal cipher]

Team CC rebrand to Shanghai Dragons lol

[robust patio]

[robust patio]

sheeesh

do we know their rosters yet

[mortal cipher]

That Roc or once again

But the only orgs I see returning would be Shanghai or BLG

[mortal cipher]

Unsure

[robust patio]

blg

[mortal cipher]

But they are at least top 4/5 at least

[robust patio]

for ewc

[mortal cipher]

Ye

Probably

Because Spark was BLG

[mortal cipher]

Tru

Any other orgs I see is probably Weibo EDG and RNG because Never Give Up

[robust patio]

https://x.com/ow_esports_asia/status/1902662083449434498?s=46

Overwatch Esports Asia (@OW_Esports_Asia) on X

SOOP OVERWATCH2 CUP 2025 S1, 참가 팀 모집 시작🔥
🔗https://t.co/oM0gKmZWnE

X · Mar 20, 2025, 10:02 AM

@torn portal this is basically how u become an esports player in korea

[robust patio]

yes

[robust patio]

blg bigger than weibo

[mortal cipher]

So when you joining lol

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[mortal cipher]

Weibo and BiliBili are the two biggest orgs

Then probably EDG and RNG maybe

[robust patio]

me would but

im in the military

[robust patio]

ma friends are in da army

so no team

[jolly pecan]

^now im silver3 finally

[hazy gorge]

https://www.faceit.com/en/r/SJ1noK/ow2BetaReferral join for help in esport

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[mortal cipher]

I see I see

[jolly pecan]

cool

[weary scarab]

https://x.com/dafran/status/1902341495736107071 this guy know how to farm engagement

Dafran (@dafran) on X

OW streamers I like and dislike

X · Mar 19, 2025, 12:48 PM

[static turret]

Dafran is a S tier rage baiter

[weary scarab]

bro took a break for like 2 months and came back day 1 with a streamer tier list lol

[static turret]

I actually can’t tell if he’s serious tho

He proceed to make a tweet saying fuck eskay

[hazy marsh]

who even are herloaf and orxu

[sullen berry]

He's barely relevant to new gen ow2 players. He tried touching grass during covid, tried getting side jobs which backfired after 2 months of trying to leave streaming as a full time job and bro literally cannot apply for a job at McDonald's.

He's living his best life simply streaming but he's admitted to being severely depressed.

S tier how many times he tries to turn his life around only to come to terms that life is easier just streaming

[glass sleet]

Nah I agree. I dislike those streamers cuz they left ow and only come back for drops

Idk those people

Wtf is that list?

Are they even human?

[stray quarry]

his longest running job is 10 days

[sullen berry]

I see penpuin barcode and sunshinebread, all different levels of CAH or better, but just grind ladder like any other streamer

[sullen berry]

Just 10 days before he quit being a normie

[hybrid hollow]

Hardbleu super and alvi are so random 😭

[hybrid hollow]

It's serious until he's called out for it

Only then is it rage bait

[robust patio]

[robust patio]

i havent heard hardbelu for so long

isnt he also a ball main

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

hes just there to have fun and not be as seriously for the most part

[robust patio]

me on ma wae to military base

[mortal cipher]

just chilling ???

[robust patio]

yuh

[static turret]

@hybrid hollow @torn portal tap in Chinese ow starting soon

[torn portal]

how all.

??

how soon

[static turret]

Like 10 minutes

Roc vs sv and oa vs xx

[static turret]

Belo doing pretty good

[split flume]

where

found cx

[robust patio]

[robust patio]

im basically top13

[torn portal]

www

[sullen berry]

@torn portalthese are the elimination matches, so RIP M0CHA for ROC Choisehwan and Belosrea

[torn portal]

i probably won’t watch a ton today

[sullen berry]

can't say I blame ya, but the stakes are higher than regular season games tonight

[torn portal]

i’ll try to catch team cc roc and oa

[sullen berry]

ROC 3-0 SV

oh my gah who could have seen dat coming

[torn portal]

“stakes are high” this is first seed vs literally the worst team in qualifiers

16th

Also how is oa not first seed

[sullen berry]

yeah so imagine in another timeline ROC gets eliminated

[torn portal]

that’s like saying what if architect gapped proper and beat falcons on vec

beyond wishful thinking

[robust patio]

sheesh

[sullen berry]

regular season for me personally in China is going to be boring for 95% of the matches

until we see whose top three in groups between OA Team CC and ROC I can't say there's much to get excited about

[torn portal]

i’m curious to see how dominant choi is when he’s not against koreans

and not carried by proud

i have a vendetta against him because he kept getting played for no reason even though jaewoo was literally on the team

[sullen berry]

diya please carry choisehwan when chinese rosters bring out the one-trick mauga & ball mains

the costreams and casters for multiple games, man 🐴

GG Team XX and NeverGiveUp

[robust patio]

welll

meh

idk

was choi carried

idk

who knows

[torn portal]

yes

[static turret]

Looks like oa is dominating

[robust patio]

yes

[torn portal]

the rein comp from oa was funny

that’s all i remember

[humble token]

Once again not number 1 team?

Damn rock is better

[mortal cipher]

Niceu

[mortal cipher]

Diya redemption arc starts

[stoic edge]

does anyone have a list of all the legendary skins that are available in lootbocxes?

im trying to see if imperius or lich king are on there

nvm i found it

[loud hound]

esports

[cosmic socket]

pretty sure its every nonbattlepass or noncollab skin

and probably no OWL skins

[stoic edge]

I thought I clicked on the other chat sorry

I need glasses

[stoic edge]

I thought so too but I don’t see zombie mercy or bee mercy on the list so maybe some exceptions ?

[torn portal]

anything can happen

except maybe this

[robust patio]

roc and oa

havent fought

idk what hes talking about

[static turret]

chinese ow

en

rn

[robust patio]

how do u even watch

@sullen berry

[weak frost]

cx is streaming I think

oh unter too🔥

https://www.twitch.tv/unter

here ig

watching F1 so idk if there's still matches

[robust patio]

hmm

[sullen berry]

Through bilibili and search “OWCS中国”

but commanderX and Unter saves doing any of that and learning chinese anyway

there's no official announcement yet on if the regular season will also be like this, because this means it will stay unwatchable without english costreamers

[storm falcon]

Where is guxue shy and leave playing now??

[weary scarab]

Did roc and oa play yet?

i only saw the pineapple vs oa game

[robust patio]

oa would win unless choi dominates

or belo diffing guxue

[storm falcon]

In oa?

[hybrid hollow]

Once Again

They just 3-0d team cc

Lige died first but it didn't matter bc shy kills 4 every fight

[storm falcon]

Are they under different names?

[hybrid hollow]

No they just play officials on their alts which is funny

[storm falcon]

Lmao

Why did they do that

Just to troll?

[hybrid hollow]

Not sure honestly

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[mortal cipher]

I’m talking about he finally gets a good team and maybe win something

[torn portal]

note that i also said “except maybe this”

[humble token]

I dont think they would

Why is roc first seed

[wet bay]

Commanderx will be streaming it all anyways so who it's fine

[sullen berry]

Cool, so I'm guessing we won't be needing announcements for those that really want to watch it

could really use someone who has access to the chinese community like Emerali or Lionel who runs the OA account on Twitter to keep me updated after tomorrow's matches

Only two matches remain tonight, but good news, Jimmy/Jeremy's Super Levi and Team CC (Ga9a, Pineapple, Farway1987) qualified for the Regular Season!

[mortal cipher]

ye i did see

[storm falcon]

Will we see roc vs oa in the quals?

[mortal cipher]

prob

[robust patio]

hmm

[robust patio]

then maybe belo diffed guxue

[mortal cipher]

the rare occurance, but if Roc wins its either Diya or the backline

[sullen berry]

https://youtu.be/6MxDN908QmQ?si=zaNrKamL5fcNmGEh

[robust patio]

yea

idk how good roc or oa is

i havent seen them play yet

[static turret]

Hard to say

Since they’re sweeping everyone

[wise orbit]

JunBallin

[loud hound]

esports

[mortal cipher]

they are prob the two best, but we wont see til they play each other

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[sullen berry]

https://www.youtube.com/live/cSNR7znl_pg?si=Ics8mX4BkhJR2zPO CommanderX/Unter is online

[slate siren]

bro

when is owcs for china starting

[robust patio]

its alr happening

[slate siren]

what

isnt pro chaser

happening

on liquipedia it says 27th march

[robust patio]

here

[robust patio]

thats hangzhou

it starts when china is finished

[slate siren]

wait so the china 1 and 2 seed will be decided today yeah?

[robust patio]

maybe ye

[slate siren]

where will this be played?

is it a lan event

or what

oh shti

im stupid

mb

[slate siren]

wait so do the winners of this tourney directly qual for the champions clash in hangzhou ?

or do they qualify for owcs china stage 1 and then play in that stage between 27th march - april 6th and then the first and second place of that stage qual for the champions clash in hanghzou

[robust patio]

lan yea

[robust patio]

good question

[robust patio]

qualify for china stage1

basically china starts stage at march 27

and whoever qualifies that stage

will be playing on april 18th

[stray quarry]

CANT WATCH

😭 😭 😭

in a hotel room with three other people they would be mildly displeased w me

[sullen berry]

Yeah I get that. Next Friday us when the group stage begins, and I don't expect there to be any mocha fans who are nervous about SV being eliminated tonight

Plus I prefer an early nights sleep before work in 8 hours

[static turret]

Once again vs super levi

Wake up !!

[split flume]

does cx ever sleep

[static turret]

Possibly not

During na and kr matches

He would be up at 3am streaming kr until like 6-7am then be back up at 12 for eu and na

[split flume]

why it say oa is number 16

[static turret]

Production

Prob

[storm falcon]

Wdym production

[sullen berry]

I'll rewatch it when the stream ends here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0mmszvXA-E&ab_channel=Pro-Chaser

[sullen berry]

Your OWCS China Regular season teams

Along with the two Groups they'll be competing in over the following week from Thursday

[mortal cipher]

lol

[mental vine]

IM SO READYYYYYY https://x.com/OnceAgainOW/status/1903877081957892329

Once Again Esports (@OnceAgainOW) on X

Next week, we make our OWCS China debut! Are you ready?

X · Mar 23, 2025, 6:30 PM

anyhoo how we gonna watch the china teams? LMFAO

took them long enough lol

if no english broadcast for this... its unfortunate and disappointing

[static turret]

Co stream or pro chaser

[swift kernel]

is there a japanese team you guys like

[static turret]

No

[mortal cipher]

Varrel

[split flume]

org or players

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[swift kernel]

org

[mortal cipher]

Because org you could add CR and Zeta

Japanese org in the Japanese Region

[swift kernel]

ie, they play in the japanese division of owcs

[mortal cipher]

Ye

In that case Varrel

[steep tiger]

Guys is there a fix to error 400? I cant seem to log in to my account

[mental vine]

where is prochaser?

[static turret]

YouTube I think

[static turret]

.

[mental vine]

thanks for the video

[pure bramble]

how is China looking

[sullen berry]

PNHB

[sullen berry]

Subscribe to them so you know when they go live this Thursday local time

It's something like CST 4PM

[split flume]

Dog walked by Korea like everyone else

[loud hound]

esports

[pure bramble]

sad

wanna see the Chinese spill some blood

[robust patio]

fr

[sullen berry]

POV you're a tournament admin/observer for OWCS China broadcast

[mortal cipher]

lol

[robust patio]

ping gud

[mortal marten]

overwatch

[robust patio]

hmm

[grave python]

Can't wait to see Virtus Pro vs the best chinese team

[robust patio]

tbh its either gonna be close

or oa dominantion

or if jaewoo locks in then the other way

[grave python]

Yeah

It's gonna be close

NTMR vs the second best chinese team will be interesting too

I blame Al Qadsiah and Spacestation because they're going to be beaten very easily by TF and CR

[torn portal]

Jaewoo vs Leave

unc vs prodigy

[torn portal]

i don’t think it will be particularly close

unless diya goes super sayion or some shit

i would take zeruhh over choi 200% of the time

[robust patio]

hmm

[torn portal]

lenny so good

[mortal cipher]

Pges eyes lol

[terse river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89I8exMgIU&t=75s

[torn portal]

can heesang chill out

[static turret]

200 games at Champ 2 is crazy

It’s like 20-30 minutes per queue

[torn portal]

that’s almost 3 days of queue time if my math is right?

😭

[static turret]

Grinder

What’s crazy is he prob has like 100 regular hrs of ow so far and not counting scrim time

Bro actually lives on the game

[cosmic socket]

damn

lot of pharah

[terse river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89I8exMgIU&t=75s (Hello subscrabe , i go to sub t you're channel too lvoe u all )

[loud hound]

esports

[wet bay]

Vigilante to T1

https://x.com/T1_official_gg/status/1904407900707020898?t=MuhrXBVnBAM3DtSSlwgWuw&s=19

T1 Official (@T1_official_gg) on X

𝐖𝐞𝐥𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞, 𝐯𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐞

T1 Overwatch 2 팀에 'vigilante' 김준 선수가 합류하였습니다.
다가오는 시즌부터 멋진 활약을 펼칠 김준 선수를 환영해 주세요!

We are pleased to announce that 'vigilante' is joining T1 for Overwatch 2!
Please give a warm welcome to 'vigilante'...

X · Mar 25, 2025, 5:40 AM

My FTG goats are finished without him 😔

Well they aren't even calling FTG anymore

Onside gaming now

[cosmic socket]

when tf did ftg rebrand to onside gaming?

[split flume]

a lil bit ago

[robust patio]

INSANE

[robust patio]

imma be up there soon

[robust patio]

is heesang playing hanzo

omg is he gonna diff stalker

👀

[torn portal]

legit grinder

[torn portal]

winnable now i think

[robust patio]

• Vestola (emea)
• Guxue (China)
  
• Lip (Korea)
• zeruhh (na)
  
• Qloud(jap)
• Palee (pacific)

[torn portal]

double flex..?

how are we not taking lip

[robust patio]

zeruhh is flex

then id take lip

[torn portal]

yes

[robust patio]

i thought he was hit

[torn portal]

na has no all star hitscans unfortunately

though lethal and seeker are alright

[robust patio]

i switched to lip

[torn portal]

yea

[robust patio]

@sullen berry @mortal cipher

[robust patio]

u make one too

[torn portal]

i don’t know much pacific or japan

[robust patio]

idk much about na too bit

but

i just picked from liqupedia

[torn portal]

Junbin
Vestola

Shy
Sugarfree

Qloud
Palee

This feels solid

[robust patio]

is sugar better than zeru

[torn portal]

idk

It’s hard to say

Sugarfree is more proven and has more experience playing big matches

So it’s a safer bet

[robust patio]

is zeru a newie

[mortal cipher]

Ooh

[mortal cipher]

Had a feeling opener was gonna get replaced

Now Vigilante gets time to shine

[torn portal]

He’s been around since 2020 but has started to rly make a name for himself in owcs

[robust patio]

theres a new req for top500

💀

win 750 lifetime ranked

like im in the army i dont have time

[torn portal]

i made a new main for ow2 and i still need like 80 wins as of this season

[robust patio]

me got no time to grind 💀

[torn portal]

wait

i think the answer is to grind open queue

the queue times are low right now and i’ll be in like plat for a good bit

free wins

[robust patio]

does this count

[torn portal]

i don’t know for sure but i think so

[robust patio]

still i wouldnt have time to grind cus im in military base all da time

[mortal cipher]

Rip

[static pond]

https://x.com/t1_official_gg/status/1904405384187859405?s=46

T1 Official (@T1_official_gg) on X

𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮, 𝐎𝐏𝐄𝐍𝐄𝐑

T1 Overwatch 2 팀의 'OPENER' 안기범 선수와의 계약이 상호협희하에 종료되었습니다.
그동안 T1에서 보여준 열정에 감사드리며, 안기범 선수의 앞날을 T1도 함께 응원하겠습니다.

Today, we part ways with 'OPENER'.
We thank him for his ...

X · Mar 25, 2025, 5:30 AM

I wonder what there planning

[sullen berry]

Asia / China
Japan Qki
Pacific sgy
Korea - Hanbin
China - Farway1987

[weary scarab]

Guxue, Ksg, Stalker, quartz, Landon, Palee

[sullen berry]

EMEA LBBD7 Vestola FunnyAstro
NA Seeker CLEAR Cjay

I think that'd make a solid pool of two teams

[split flume]

guxue, stalk3r, quartz, palee, vega, qki as sub

[mortal cipher]

Vigilante is probably the better option because that zeta game 5 they would’ve won if not for opener Ajax

[torn portal]

Ok no flame but thank god

[mortal cipher]

He was the weakest link and the biggest worry in the roster shd vigilante finally gets some showtime

[static turret]

I forgot about vigilante

Since he was sick

[mortal cipher]

He never got his time to shine post Washington

[static turret]

Anything is better than opener tho tbf

Vigilante shouldn’t do bad (I think)

He wasn’t the worst on tm

[mortal cipher]

Opener was fine but was clearly the biggest question she problem

[mortal cipher]

Vigilante and Heesung also made FTG competitive

[static turret]

Ftg over?

Heesung to na?????

Please

[mortal cipher]

Nah just a new name

[static turret]

Ah

[mortal cipher]

Idk who replaces vigi tho

[static turret]

Opener ?

lol

[mortal cipher]

On FTG

My biggest question is who plays main support

[weary scarab]

atleast we got no gibraltar

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[atomic island]

I’m honestly so hype for when they add map voting to the base game 😭

[mortal cipher]

And heyo bans

[static turret]

Gib is the best map

[torn portal]

it’s ok

[cosmic socket]

xzodyal leaves peps

[mortal cipher]

i wonder where

[static turret]

If I had to guess

A partnered team

Wait he known as little known talent last year ?

Felt like he showed how good he was

[static turret]

@hybrid hollow @torn portal

[torn portal]

kon wya

[cosmic socket]

feel like he might go gen g

[torn portal]

good shout

sounds super likely actually

[mortal cipher]

he was mvp last year

[cosmic socket]

thats gonna be really rough for peps

[mortal cipher]

that or TM

honestly GenG might be the best bet for him

[mortal cipher]

who do they get as their hitscan

[cosmic socket]

soOn

gramps is gonna have to pick up the slack

[mortal cipher]

tru

[sullen berry]

If it's not retirement for Rivals my guess is probably for a team going for EWC, Stage 2 and Faceit League NA

[hybrid hollow]

YESSIR

FREE HIM

now we need quartz to leave tm

get the shackles off the demons

[cosmic socket]

the demon being youbi

[hybrid hollow]

Sucking away his prime

[static turret]

Does sauna play hs?

If not he could go to geng

Sauna and dragon for double flex and Xzo there for hs

[cosmic socket]

hes already on geng

idk maybe i misread that

[hybrid hollow]

He's saying xzo can go to geng

Sauna plays hitscan but if xzo joined he'll probably be benched unless double flex

[paper totem]

The tables have turned in CRs favor

The Mauga nerf is 100% targeted at OWCS

Tbh I’m fine with it interesting to see what meta will

Hanbin gonna pull out the queen again

[mental vine]

WELL.... so... Crazy Raccoon win? LMFAO

sighs history repeats itself again....

its gonna be CR win then Falcons win then back to CR WIN LMFAO

and then later..... Falcons win in the world championships LOL

[sullen berry]

First Match starts <t:1743066035:F>

https://x.com/ememerali/status/1904549201331290125?s=46

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OWCS China Group Stage Schedule.
Where to watch:
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X · Mar 25, 2025, 3:01 PM

[cosmic socket]

i feel like that just kills mauga comp right

[glass sleet]

Finally

[sullen berry]

Either they will or they won't rely on nerfed mauga

[glass sleet]

He deserves to be on a better team

[sullen berry]

The same way 2021 still featured brig lucio comps because brig was still getting value

[glass sleet]

I really doubt he goes to TM. 4 DPS?

[glass sleet]

WHAAAAAAA? NO GIB? Is this the first time we don’t get gib?

[glass sleet]

So what about skewed? Does he get benched?

[wet bay]

Opener is gone

[glass sleet]

Yeah but neither play Lucio

[wet bay]

Idk what they'll do for Lucio yea

[glass sleet]

I like both skewed and vigilante. Weird seeing them on the same team lol

[wet bay]

Ftg are done for

No more vrotherhood

[glass sleet]

Heesung?

Is he still on FTG

[wet bay]

Heesung is the goat but losing vigilante is big

[wet bay]

I think they haven't announced anything yet but obviously vigi is leaving

[glass sleet]

True.

It’s a shame. FTG were so entertaining

[wet bay]

Maybe they could get one of the flex supp who went to EU/NA but who knows

[glass sleet]

Maka joins FTG

there

[wet bay]

Hopefully I like Maka

[glass sleet]

It makes sense

[wet bay]

Idk if way are still together next stage or not

[glass sleet]

FTG is an org. Idk if they’ll wanna get rid of their roster

Cuz who else will they get

[wet bay]

The DPS and Heesung are good

I think if they could get someone like Maka and someone to replace Vindaim it'd be perfect

But there aren't many ms options is the issue

[glass sleet]

FTG’s new roster: prophet, SEONJUN, heesung, opener, maka.

[wet bay]

Is opener really much better than vindaim tho

[glass sleet]

…Idk

But who else is there?

Leesoomin?

[paper totem]

OWCS will not play Mauga

That skill not effecting team is huge

[wet bay]

All the other good Korean MS went to EU and NA

[glass sleet]

Yeah I know

Bliss the goat

[wet bay]

If only they could have Bliss or Fixa

[glass sleet]

I doubt they’ll pay them as much

[wet bay]

Yeah there's no incentive

Maybe someone on a worse team like Faith but how good is he really compared to Vindaim or whoever

[glass sleet]

Is faith actually as bad?

[wet bay]

Honestly idk I remember him being good but he hasn't look very good on TU so far

[glass sleet]

Idk if it’s communication issue or what

I think maybe twilight and faith need to play more together

[mortal cipher]

yeah, but i was just guessing besides GenG

[mortal cipher]

Skewed might go back to MS

[wet bay]

Do you really think way would split anyways? Though now ftg are onside gaming they can probably offer more money to someone like maka anyway

[glass sleet]

TU to replace KAI

[glass sleet]

Back? He only played brig

His heroes are mainly Fsup

[wet bay]

I feel like ftg had a lot of potential last stage, probably more than way imo but choked a lot when it mattered

[glass sleet]

They definitely chocked

Big time

[mortal cipher]

Honestly but Kevster refuses to leave Kai for some reason

[glass sleet]

He feels bad for him

Idk

TU with Xzodyal are definitely a million times better. Not only is he a better HS, he’s actually more flexible too

[mortal cipher]

idk, but Vigi could play Lucio it wouoldnt be the first Flex Support to play Lucio

[mortal cipher]

lol

[wet bay]

If they played better on like 2 or 3 maps they literally beat Zeta and Falcons. Even had a lot of potential to win that 1st CR series

[glass sleet]

I mean as long as I get to see vigilante play

[wet bay]

They just got worse throughout the stage too though as it moved away from Haz which they were really good at

[mortal cipher]

Way just had no expectations at all and just blew everyone away

[glass sleet]

Yeah they could’ve won if it wasn’t for that stupid vindaim beat

[mortal cipher]

Vigi deserves it

[wet bay]

Yea

After that one week though they got over hyped

[glass sleet]

I was sad when he left TM. He didn’t get to play much before getting sick

[mortal cipher]

i mean Way managed to beat falcons of all teams and it wasnt even close

[wet bay]

Felt like they just locked in when it mattered to qualify during that one week and then went back to normal and got destroyed

[glass sleet]

Or the top teams locked in

[mortal cipher]

outside of Washington most of his career has been benched

[glass sleet]

But he doesn’t deserve it 😭

He’s actually good

[wet bay]

Vigi is so good yea

[mortal cipher]

exactly but when you are on the same team as Fielder and Chiyo well...

[glass sleet]

When I first learned about vigilante, he was a benched player for Atlanta

[mortal cipher]

ye

[glass sleet]

Yeah…

[wet bay]

I think a lot of the flex supp talent is really high, MS is so lacking in comparison

[glass sleet]

I get it I guess

[mortal cipher]

He played in the Pro Am

[mortal cipher]

ye

[glass sleet]

Glad he’s on T1 now. Even tho they don’t pay their players much

[wet bay]

Atlanta wasted Hawk and Vigi. Such good players but obviously they had a superteam

[glass sleet]

Greedy Korean org

[glass sleet]

The racism was wild against hawk

[wet bay]

I felt so bad for Hawk when he got put in against London cause he was actually cooking and everyone else had given up

[glass sleet]

Their attitude of “oh the white boy is in, we’re already lost so let’s not lock in”

Was so bs

[mortal cipher]

i mean it was also i think Hawk just sat back and also didnt want to try anything different

[glass sleet]

What? No, not wanting to scrim different heroes were definitely the Koreans

[mortal cipher]

Hawk unironically was the only one expect maybe Lip that seems to be trying

[wet bay]

They talked about it a bit on uncoachable, they found it hard to integrate him because of language and they didn't think he was a good player apparently

[mortal cipher]

that was definetely a korean thing ye

[mortal cipher]

Gator talked about they had to Force Pelican to try something else just to prove a point that there were other options

[wet bay]

Teams in general seem to just stick to the things they scrimmed and not adapt

At least hero bans make that better it was so boring in stockholm

Even the teams that were dogshit on Mauga didn't try anything different

[glass sleet]

CR

[wet bay]

Idk why they don't just put Lip on hitscan or something because they clearly couldn't win the mirror

[mortal cipher]

thats why i liked the 2021 season because they had like 3/4 heroes banned every week

[wet bay]

Maybe they lose either way but I feel like it's better to try something different

[glass sleet]

That’s how they win. Not playing mauga

[mortal cipher]

or maybe it was every stage

[wet bay]

It was more criminal for the teams like SSG I think

They should've just tried something else like go back to Orisa or play a Mei, or put Sparkr in

[glass sleet]

Ugh, you just had to remind me of the disappointment

[wet bay]

Like I don't get why you play TM and they're out here playing Ashe Pharah and you stick to the apparent meta comp you aren't even good at

Legit perfect situation to put Sparkr in

[mortal cipher]

in a span of a few months in Esports NA > Eu in two different Esports

[glass sleet]

Didn’t they play backbone on genji?

[mortal cipher]

ye

[wet bay]

A little

He was honestly doing alright

Would've preferred he kept playing it than Reaper really

[glass sleet]

Teams play genji into TM

[wet bay]

That Kings Row Reaper was just embarrassing

[wet bay]

Well you can just deflect every barrage ig and go for the Ashe

[glass sleet]

Yeah. TM could’ve won if they didn’t barrage into deflect

Waste

[mortal cipher]

ye

[wet bay]

I remember I was watching the replay and it didn't even look like TM were playing super well

Like giving up a lot of space for no real reason but then somehow just win the fight from a Quartz or Lbbd7 clutch

[glass sleet]

Doesn’t their comp wanna play back and spam?

[cosmic socket]

does tm still play hadi at all

[wet bay]

Maybe but surely you can play Pharah or Ashe on some other angle and get more value instead of taking no damage and everyone just playing in the same corner

[glass sleet]

I don’t remember their game against SSG

[wet bay]

Either way I find it super weird that SSG have the opportunity to play something they're good at and stick to the Reaper Echo stuff

Seicoe was kinda cooking but idk

Just a weird game

[glass sleet]

…the meta was supposed to be something they’re good at

[wet bay]

Apparently they were the first team to start playing Mauga and won everything but when other teams started it turned out they weren't actually good lol

[glass sleet]

If they couldn’t play the mauga comp, they might as well pack up and leave

[wet bay]

They looked a lot better on Orisa

And I don't like the Reaper

[glass sleet]

Idk

It’s just disappointing

[wet bay]

Yeah it's sad we never see that team again

Sparkr is rivals now and backbone retired

At least Landon gets to go to lan he deserves it

[glass sleet]

You got your hadi seicoe, Astro core

[wet bay]

It's weird because

[glass sleet]

I guess he was right to sign the players he did

[wet bay]

At the start of 2024 I thought Astro was quite an upgrade on Admiral

Now Admiral just seems like he's improved a lot and Astro is washed

I wonder if the team could've done better with Admiral staying

[glass sleet]

No way, I’ve always believed in admiral. Spitfire we’re holding him back.

[glass sleet]

Admiral on NTMR going to China. He’s in a much better place

[wet bay]

It's such a weird team is the thing. Backbone is the goat on Mei but he can't play many of the important flex DPS. Kinda same with Hadi

And Landon, he can cook on Bap Kiri but no Ana or anything

Like they're very strong on their heroes but not flexible enough

[glass sleet]

Now he plays Juno

[wet bay]

Yea he looked pretty good on her

[glass sleet]

I don’t think Landon is the issue for QAD

[wet bay]

Landon is good yeah

[glass sleet]

Haku is the biggest issue for them

[wet bay]

Ziyad was a good surprise

[glass sleet]

Still gotta give him credit for going from a mercy one trick to playing brig Lucio

[glass sleet]

Tbh I thought he’d never play cuz Tred would be performing well.

[wet bay]

I don't think I've seen Tred apart from on those first two games

Looked pretty poor

[glass sleet]

Tred never got swapped back in after ziyad came in

[wet bay]

I'll be rooting for ALQ and NTMR in China

[glass sleet]

Rooting for the underdogs

And falcons

[wet bay]

Fun teams to watch

[glass sleet]

Yeah gonna be fun hopefully

[wet bay]

My main team ftg are never making lan

Maybe if ewc has more spots they could but still need to lock in and get top 4 or 3

Just too competitive in KR even if they're a strong team

[glass sleet]

That’s just gonna be an extra slot for ZETA

[wet bay]

Prob yea

[glass sleet]

I have a main team for each reign and two of them made it

[wet bay]

And with T1 getting Vigi, FTG will have to improve quite a bit

[glass sleet]

[wet bay]

I hope FTG can pick up Maka

[glass sleet]

If they can get maka, I believe.

[glass sleet]

No reason to stay on way.

[wet bay]

When everyone locks in on that team they're really competitive

[glass sleet]

Fr

[wet bay]

Feel like Vindaim is just the most consistent issue for them

But yeah it's hard to see who could be an upgrade unless they just abandon having a Lucio player

[glass sleet]

The only time he’s consistent lol

[wet bay]

Consistently missing players with beat

[glass sleet]

Kinda his signature

[rotund flare]

I love the new skins

Too bad I can't get them

[lofty trail]

Gym bros unite

[static pond]

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X · Mar 26, 2025, 9:00 AM

Wast the whole point of soop to show upcoming talent?

[rugged quest]

Idc this is miles better

the 8 team lans have cucked us out of these matchups

[static pond]

T1 or way might win

I wonder if it vp owcs roster

[rugged quest]

Ofc

[static pond]

Ah so boot camp

[rugged quest]

we will finally see the best western teams vs top3-8 korean teams

[static pond]

Think
Pokerface also just rebuild there roster

[robust patio]

finally

tmr

china is starting

[static turret]

Wait

That’s kinda fire soop

[static turret]

@torn portal @hybrid hollow this is fire

Best eu and na team vs non top 3 Korean teams

Should be a strong matchup

[torn portal]

yea

[torn portal]

@robust patio how we can see if my NTMR and VP glaze compared to lower korea is valid

if they get shit on you’re right

[robust patio]

wait

i dont understand this

english

my brain wait huh

how we can see

if my ntmr

[torn portal]

vp and ntmr are in soop cup with teams like way t1

[robust patio]

in soopcup?

oh

[torn portal]

yea

probably treating it like a boot camp

[robust patio]

they are fighting??

[torn portal]

yea

[robust patio]

if vp wins then

glaze is over?

ahh i understand

[torn portal]

if vp wins t1 is finished

[robust patio]

basically

emea #1 and na #1

invited

we get to see where they rank

in korea teams

basically top 4 max

cr falc zeta

maybe have a chance against way or not

[torn portal]

what’s crazy is that i think the way coach also aids in ntmr 😭

wheats is still the main coach but GgulTaek is on both

[robust patio]

insane

[storm falcon]

When does the soop cup starts?

[split flume]

5th

[weary talon]

Team Falcons just fell to their knees somewhere in korea

blizzard NUKED mauga omg

[mortal cipher]

Victory for everyone

No more Mauga jail except I never played Mauga

[wet bay]

There's actually a chance that one of ROC or OA don't make it depending on the bracket

Cause it's single elim

Would be interesting to see one of these more unknown teams go to lan

[glass sleet]

What happens when the top two teams are the invited teams?

[wet bay]

Wym

[glass sleet]

Aren’t they gonna play in the China tournament tomorrow?

NTMR and VP

[wet bay]

China lan isn't until later I mean the china region

[glass sleet]

Wtf is tomorrow then?

No what

[wet bay]

China region

[glass sleet]

I’m talking about OWCS China

Not China lan

[wet bay]

Soop cup is April 4th

[glass sleet]

NTMR and VP are invited to OWCS China are they not?

[wet bay]

They're invited to china Lan and soop cup

[glass sleet]

They’re not invited to China lan cuz they got first place in their regions

[glass sleet]

So they’re invited to soop cup. Isn’t that a side tournament for Korean teams?

[wet bay]

Yeah it's just a separate thing

[glass sleet]

Ok

I understand now

[wet bay]

It's T1, WAY, Onside Gaming (FTG), VEC, Poker Face, New Era, VP and NTMR

Will be interesting to see how these middling Korean teams do against VP and NTMR

I wonder why Zeta isn't there since they didn't qualify to China either

[static turret]

There’s still 4 more teams coming from open qualify

Maybe zeta has to go through that idk

[glass sleet]

They’re too good for them

[mortal cipher]

Probably since they are right under falcons

But I’m guessing just on paper and names alone that either way or T1 win

[wet bay]

Yeah

They got vigi and got rid of probably their biggest weakness in opener

Only issue is no Lucio player but neither do way and they can work around it