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never have i ever met a korean in ALABAMA
out of all the states
thats particularly new to me
now theres info that i didnt know
huge korean car factory in alabama
usually the places ik full of koreans are georgia, cali, ny, dc, virginia, etc.
cali and ny yes
surely georgia
hyundai factory in alabama
yes
cuz of like cheaper prices in homes
and yall know they LOVE to live in cheaper homes
interesting statistic
by like how much?
is it a small or a big difference?
a lot
oh wow
it was mostly alabama cali
now it is
so when was this, like the 90s? lol
2009
oh
insanity
cant believe a singular hyundai plant can influence koreans to live in such a state like alabama
thats crazy
bro loves peace and quiet
yes
bro tried to achieve nirvana right there
yes
u REALLY must have a good life
niceeeeeee i did too
oh that was u
yep das me
LMFAOOOOO
he is in a better position now with a good team than in OWL seasons
im glad he is getting the recognition he deserves
FLORA š„¹
he is all grown up
i want t1 to be in top 4
Lbbd7 better
better than who
Checkmate robbed lbbda mvp
ZETA lets gooooo
What
Oh the zeta game
Didnāt watch it
Snooze fest
China should be starting in like a week or two
When emea/na week 4 ends that should make enough time for China to get their stage in and then go to lan
I think
The Lan isn't until some time in April I'm pretty sure
Carpe Faker and Fleta In the same org
Two goats who have a nickname and one is the Goat of second places lol
tr33 and magnus carlsen are on the same org
2 goats of the game
Tr33 is more comparable to levy than Magnus ngl
Magnus is Lip or something
It's funny they count chess as an esport though
Whoru bout to tie that up
š„¶
we comparing ow players and chess players hell yeah
Ftg gonna win it trust
They just need to lock in and quit choking
They have good potential apart from Vindaim
I think heesung is better than Donghak apart from his ball
Seonjun is kinda a troll to
Seonjun is the goat
Prophet is good but inconsistent I think
Vigi is also a goat
Replace Vindaim with Viol2t and the team would be crazy
I would've said Chiyo but you gotta keep the vrotherhood
tu vs alq predictions?
raajaro didn't get picked up by anyone? damn
I feel like he performed really well last season
I've seen enough sub in chase
this might just be the dps diff
Who subbed in on zen????
gramps still got it
kev twilight carry
nah they clutched last fight on all points
let kevster cook
I know damn well I donāt see who I think is in
Why is he cooking n
Chris theory paying off
ig twilight finally made it to riyadh
The Landon Kiri is good now???
Thereās no way we let him donthat
landon has been cooking on kiri today
Ksaa just watched his team get pieced up
howwww does ksaa survive that
Wait
Itās a flex support takeover
The supports are finding more picks than anyone rn
How op is that role
Why is ksaa always 60 meters away from his team tho
Or are they just ignoring him
Well they won
Nice
He dies on cart bc he can stall forever with block
kevster finally got a good teammate
If ksaa doesn't die on cart all those times aq probably have another fight there
that ksaa stall kinda saved them
Ram is just op
block is so stupid
that was geniunely crazy
damn kev 44:6
holy kevster 44-6
Team unc is doin good
These guys got 1 year left in them before 3 of them possibly retire
We pushing 30 playing Owcs
hey soon is 31 and still kicking
They genuinely arenāt even doing bad
Dude
how many teams make lan ?
Twiligthy
2
Still got it
no way peps making lan then
I mean
I agree
They are top 3 rn doing good
peps is not beating gen.g or vp imo
unless they're in really good form and vp or gen.g are playing poorly
yeah but theres a whole nother bracket
or wait
Theyāre prob around t1 level
is regional playoffs lan
I donāt think so
no
yeah if regional playoffs isnt lan they got a whole nother bracket to place high in
you could just play shit now and clutch in lower bracket and you qual lol
Thats pretty high up there
Im@not saying itās bad
The top eu/na team prob are top 4 in kr
Ksaa finally punished for feeding
5-6
No
I was thinking 4/5
Bc top 4 would be like CR, Falcons, Zeta, Way
Way in none genji meta is cooked
I think the top eu teams straight up beat most the korean teams on brawl
Way and vp both super good bc the meta rn
dont forget perks is coming next week or some shit
Vp seems flexible
plus power rankings mean nothing now
Vestola ? Flexible?
lol
Korean coach will teach him winston
just maybe
Otherwise he fraud
These teams look about even
niceeee
Does Chris do any legitimate coaching why is Twilight on the bench
I mean why wouldn't he be benched if you're running Juno brig
If you don't play ana and can't force double flex why would he be in
Heās only here for when they play chase
Did faith die to ping
Or is he just mental
pretty sure he's in EU so
he just mistimed it
he's in ryadh im pretty sure
So we are just trolling
I suppose
Check his cash app
thats what happens when the tank meta opens
Most tanks are at least semi viable rn
and torb sym forced the meta open bc it eliminated hazard
Against a better team I think ksaa would mirror the dva tho ngl
Landon looking for spitfire
nicee
the first Kai oc to have aura
YESSSS
Holy
Wow
Peak game ngl
bro that faith beat when kev literally got a free pick on haku
Tu are so shit dude š
Ultimates
TU threw
Got
Chris keeping Twilight on the bench is crazy
how is this team so bad
No names
Can't wait for him to cope in the podcast
if lbbda dont get mvp
They lose harder with twilight in ngl
Kai skai and faith?
what does twilight even play there
They won their only map with him in
Twiligth literally carried them
Itās a coaching diff
but it was also Havana
And he was on zen
and ksaa and kev
on paper this team should be really good
And chase
how are they so shit
Should we just add twilight too?
thats the whole roster yeah
Replace Faith and Twilight goes Ana would be better. The Kiri ban was also shit imo, surely you ban Torb or protect Ram
like kai should be the questionable one and he has been playing fine imo
Guys Chris isnāt going to China it seems
Why would they go coleseo into the dva comp wanting to play ana
Kai was silent first 2 maps thp
Tbh heās being underperforming outside of the couple pop offs
Lucio Juno with the brawl mirror is just better
and it's easier for aq to find the ana
Go Esperanca and get Chase in
This
They want to play KSAA
I mean Landon played well
Only reason I think twilight isnāt playing much is cuz he just got here and he hasnāt done much scrimming
so just play ball
Kai played the best lol
idk if there is a good substitute for ana though
do we trust the chase ball into the dva
i swear lbbda never gets potm for some reason
I would
I lowkey don't
Chase is good but I don't think his ball is that much of a better look
And they lost that map bc they fucked up their ult eco
its not like he's facing off against bernar here
Ngl
but it's not like he's junbin either
chase is good on ball
Does Chase not play Hazard still and ban Torb. If they ban Winston then you're good and if they ban Ana go Juno Kiri or something. Or just keep Faith in and put Skai on Ana if you have Chase in
maybe better than mag
Definitely an option
I think that would be best actually
I still don't think it's that much better than what they tried
What they did worked they just fucked up at the end
They just chocked at the end
and the pharah swap fucked them over as well
well if youre playing haz then theres no point putting chase in
Itās not a āoh we shouldāve played something else insteadā
They were winning
They just choked
Winston option is good though too
Hard to say
Either way what they did was ass
Chris can't coach faith to not beat when they alr won with ray
they shouldn't drop 3 maps to alq though on paper
Why would you ban Kiri over Torb or Ram protect
there is an issue here not just players choking
Idk alq are strong
AQ maybe slowly getting better with their coach
They also played Tred at the start who sucked
that as well aq just played well
Ziyad seems like a Dva OTP but ig that's fine in EU
Everyone in EU sucks on hazard
Haku finally looked like more than a mercy otp and the Landon Kiri was finally peak
twilight/skai faith should beat haku landon
Not really
Haku is pretty shit really and Landon is inflexible
When I first saw him in sel, he was playing dva and dude he was so aggressive. Dude would fly into a full team.
If ana and zen isn't being played I don't want twilight touching my lobby
on paper i mean
He did well on Juno
TU is full of elders
even on paper you have the calculate that the guy hasn't played the game in quite some time
They should be but haku is actually improving
also dont even get me started on the tanks
Yeah but he can't play Ana, Zen and things
checkmate and lbbd7 are really good though
Lbbd7 is very good
Yeah the tank line should be gapping them
Having a strong hitscan who can just swap to Pharah or other things is good
Bap Juno kiriko. Someone would argue that skai canāt play those at the same level
But eh
I think Landon is better than Skai
He's played quite a bit of Kiri
22 playoffs and Ram comps
Probably his 2nd most played
Alright I got 20k on VP
Who are they vs
peps
Soon Tracer on Havana was interesting
they had planned on him playing widow im pretty sure
There's no way Soon is better than Xzodyal on any hero at this point surely
Ofc not
Why is he even there
Memes
are the na matches good today i wonder
Soon is actually playing over Xzodyal š
no they are shit
worth
Tbh he isnt that bad on soj
Apparently xzodyal did something to his hand
His overcloaks are just bad
LOL i still cant beleive that happened
ok im back why is bestola on doomfist
why did ves reset tho
dude missed it š
bro just wanted to play doom ig
hahahah
bro what is this match š
Soon in 2025
oh i forgot they are signing Chess i think Hikaru got signed to like C9 or something
oh it was TSM
nvm its Misfits
yeah i think its for the EWC
Peps got cooked
It's funny they don't disable Hazard or anything while he has at least two insta kill bugs
They've both happened in owcs lol, the other one I saw was Junbin get one shot by downpour
He also dropped mines because he didn't expect it lmao
Lmao I just saw the remech kills how did they die to that
Soon such an elder he forgot mech does damage now
(this)
What
Na is ass

^
Nah
They probably lose to like t1 or way
Maybe ftg on a good day
ssg losing a map gg Lenny gotta retire
alright kellan on winston lets go
kronik is playing like lebron
Unfortunately the real LeBron is in the lobby
#freekronik
til its backwards š
Seecurry passes the ball to sugarbron, SLAMMM DUNK
Unfortunately Kellan Love can't build his damn primal
im predicting a pulse from sugarbron onto lep before he can beat
best hitscan in na but can't get a placement anyone cares about
The life of kronik
damn nvm
rad should be happy they won a map
xd
did they both ajax???
What is main support even about
Idk
Ngl tho
Idk if Ssg is gonna be able to compete in lan
Aside from Lenny and maybe kellan the rest of the team isnāt anything insane at playmaking
Seeker has his rare moments
Bliss and cjay are just
Eh
idk why they didnt sign kronik
Seeker has better preformances
His stage 4 performance was good and he did good in lan
Not just about performance synergy iÅ important
Lenny wanted seeker
Lenny just go to liquid bro
Bliss is a troll
Cjay is good at one hero
Seeker is just existing
Kellan off ping is good
Yes
yea
Yes actually
Very crazy
okay okay
They go to maybe map 4 if cr decide to troll for a map
4 maps
they get 3-0
The structure of the team doesn't change much no matter how much better Lenny is than knife
They play the macro the same way
3-1
3-0
And I think that's liquids biggest issue
Liquid get gapped at every role
Unless tr33 and Lenny turn into 2 archangels for a series itās wraps
tree has to play against lip on hitscan, Lenny could probably diff heesang on a good day if heesang was playing bad, junbin out balls Infekted, and the backline is just
I mean
Rupal and Vega are good
But shu and chorong good?
Nah
nah
Rupal is like finn level prob lower
I think junbin straight up diffs infekted on every tank
He does
100%
real
i still think they at least go to map 4
His only chance is orisa
And even then
Infekted would have to play out of his white mind
elaborate
rupal is like lower than my skill :p
And if infekted somehow gets a off tank match up is he really diffing max
I think he's better just bc consistency and flexibility
I don't mind Rupal on any flex support but I'm side eyeing the Finn zen illari and Kiri sometimes
gut feeling combined with my instinct to glaze na
Unfortunately true
me who beat rupal in a mystery support 1v1 
goat
we all remember that timeless game...
i remember when timeless had koreans
Ain't much to develop honestly
Uv is a solid player overall
I think Rupal is just mechanically insane it's never talked about much bc only Koreans get support pov
I hope Rupal gets better come playoffs
kroniks off hitscan ššš
Now timeless is eternal 4th place
who is third?
Ntmr
can tl beat ntmr
im gonna be honest i dont even know who is on ntmr xd
Yes
same
can Knife carry TL
Heās not even the best player
Clear cuffa lethal zeruhh admiral uv
Itās tr33
damn
na still has no hopes
It's highkey Vega
Didnāt he just ajax
Every main support has to ajax
True
It's just in the system
Besides chorong
chorong is actually cheating idc
I aināt never seen him have a off game
I'll never forget when he used beat to barely dodge the orisa spear
Aura
Anyone else gets ajaxed there
Is it crazy to say chorong is the only S tier main support
smurf on his way to military service
It's not crazy to say that
Wait thereās chiyo but like
nah shu and chorong
for main yes
is fielder not s tier?
but entire sup s tier is
Chiyo be having his days
shu chorong
not anymore
Chorong has just been consistently consistent
Forever
Maybe a bad game here and there
But like
maybe viol2t if he hits his beat
Chorong also the only true hyperflex support since viol2t
he's in main support jail tho
Chorong: come dm me if you are a better weaver player than me
(interview)
the chorong flex is underrated
They could swap roles and still be the best prob
Nah the shucio ain't it
I mean
The shujourn tho?
alphayi ajaxed less than his actual Lucio player
actually I don't think he ajaxed at all
Violet is a troll
i want to be in this team
He donāt take anything serious
That's lowkey me on mercy
Didnāt heesang get mad
k1ng
Bc lip was duo with stalker
yes 
what we doing here
I get it
Stalker the only one on his team that cares anymore n
Proper gonna retire
Hanbin plays like heās insane
heesang wish he could duo with his old teammates
Chiyo always look evil bro
lel
heesang and Lenny would duo again before heesang and proper
hawk tuah
san shock duo
lel
the heesang x sugarfree tracer sombra wasnt that bad honestly
I'll like neither of them to be on sobra ideally but it was kinda nice
Lenny is him
welp
they should be happy they took a map off a top 2 team
The slop is over guys
there any more games after that?
I don't think so
I can't wait for china lan
Gonna be pure chaos
i wanna see a team called Gods
Moon Crusty ninek
Junbin Hanbin
Lip stalk3r heesang
Shu chorong
(7 players max for international lan esports)
aint tl vs ntmr happening too?
thatll also be good
this team is lowkey good
lowkey
i dont see any team having a chance š
i could see them getting top 4 on lan
I fear lethal can NOT hang with tr33
it's just cr with an upgrade
Best team in the world but better
Chill on max
yeah its decent
Wait til cr gotta play sig
Max is good but hanbin is probably still better
- lip wouldn't have to play flex on that roster
Can max handle the hanbinston
I can handle the hanbinston
They should've lowkey brought back the opr clients for this week
He was with fearless and Smurf bro never had to learn Winston
At least so the round robins finish on this patch
I donāt wanna see perks
Throwing in such a major change is gonna screw the standings in EU and na bc how close some of the teams are
Dva perks arenāt all that I fear vp might drop
real
i heard shu is practicing widow and getting coached by lip
shu with headshot ana incoming
Ana brig genuinely might be the strongest it's ever been
Itās looking like a cr win
Ball gets ultra health from packs and he gets shields back in 7 seconds potentially
max might not get benched anymore
i heard pavane making max play rein
rein perk shield bash
is just broken
Its gonna be crazy
sounds kinda peak honestly
it is they only have a few for GenG TL Misfits and a few others
oh god is orisa meta again
Orisa 1v1! (Sheds tear)
Please.......
Mini heads up you can buy merch for cr they each have like there own keychains and plushies
Nvm all sold out I wanted to get a heesang stuff and lip stuff
impressive
id rather buy a cookies
just make Cr ow skins and ill buy
He was listening to fate
i cant believe there are still people on twitter saying yzn is the best pharah
š
Not even the best phara from Saudi
Maybe next season Iām surprise they havenāt even drop them yet
@uneven timber @stray quarry @mortal cipher @viscid hatch
@sullen berry @hybrid hollow
now that's a superping
now who would have thought
Japan's OW scene would pave the way with the torb meta that we've seen in every other region
including Korea and EMEA
Cr on top
How does this work?
Whatās after this
It's seeding for the regional playoffs
The top 2 from last chance qualifier makes it to regional playoffs along with those other 4
The other 4 fight for seeding, top 2 get a first round bye and auto qualify to Asia LAN
Then #3 in seeding decider fights #2 in last chance qualifier and #4 SDM Vs #1 lcq, the losers out of those instantly drop out of the tournament
So basically anyone who gets past those first two matches qualifies to Asia LAN
I think they made it a bit overcomplicated but it's fine because now we get a bunch of matches for the top teams
Sweet as
I'm presuming it'll be FTG and T1 pretty easily get through
it gonna be hella sweaty
since we getting perks in these too
Will be interesting to see if they figure it out fast
They only have like 3 days before the matches
so the Japanese teams are gonna be the first to play on the new patch the day it releases right
or is it the next day
pacific gets it on wednesday
so they will go live with less than 24 hours to actually practice on the new season patch
Devs donāt care about Owcs unfortunately
Not enough to give them time to practice
but it's also the pacific region
they cared enough to let them play on it early
but being too early and time to strategize is are going to make this a fantastic shitshow for the two people watching it
lol
All of 7 pacific fans are happy rn
I canāt root for pacific knowing they have to go to Asia lan first to even have a chance at China lan
They just wonāt win unfortunately
GUYS I CAN FINNALY BUY A TICKET FOR THURSDAY GAMESSSSSSS @sullen berry @viscid hatch @hybrid hollow @torn portal
!jumbo 
I hope way continues to be good
Bc rn they are unironically looking like a top 3 team
I'm here for the Please Not Hero Ban playoffs arc
and the Frogger learns how to use perks in the Pacific arc
Region is cooked
which everyone has treated her like a nobody so she's playing from korea with her teammates
not just in OWCS
but Calling All Heroes was an easy sweep
Nice
These matches look good coming up
Na has had 2 good matches in 3wks
Timeless rank 1 rn
So odd
I'm really invested in the WAY upset arc, they managed to escape LCQ
Pelican better have a big game ready against T1
T1 vs ftg
Imo both those teams are about even so it could be anyoneās game n
I think way can take a map off cr
Assuming they keep on this streak of playing extremely well
when i can't decide h2h whose got the better players, for me it comes down to the coaching from both teams
All Iāve seen fleta do is look around ngl
Rush and Fleta vs Dongsu and A1M
He was responsible for the Shanghai Dragons pop off seasons from S3-S4
Do not disrespect the goat
Man I miss the chinese NeXt tournaments
in another timeline, we'd still have those to bring up chinese players and teams from OWL
fr
hes gonna witness the viol2t aura irl
i would lowkey roll owcs 2 ez
Honestly realistically T1 has the easiest way through compared to other 3
He has a stat named after him for a reason
Fr
Fleta still out to prove he studied the blade and the coaching playbook while playing main tank for Shanghai in 2022
While A1M also asserting dominance to prove that the Gen.G Korea Coaching School he went to was worth paying for
Lol
Fleta bring the ingame coach while they looked for another tank at the time but if Iām honest if they made Fleta the off tank it couldāve worked better
Lol
losing void was that bad, you know. Being stuck with newer players the Shanghai of 2022 decided they had to move along and get ready for Marvel Rivals Alpha the following year early in its development
Iām staying up late just to watch the collab
Wait
or perhaps... He still gets to "collab" with his girl
Thatās in 8hrs
It didnāt help their parent company NetEase was the server provider for blizzard Activision games in China
Isnāt it?
He did coach Chaewon last time
And got told his Korean is good
and you know diehard fearnots will be tracking her every location
they'll know Jake's address, and that he has rip tire
Every fear not was making edits of Jake and Chae lol
Finn is so goated for this
The only one safe from the riptire is her
perhaps the craziest way to discover where chaewon is is if it involved 3am and a hidden message "jakerat"
Lol
Shoutout Finn frfr
Tru
I did the math, it's KST8:30 pm
Ye
<t:1739878200:F> (<t:1739878200:R>)
I'm just
not going to get any sleep this week

Lol
you know how stupid it is to see an OCE region playing at 2am - 5am with these two casters
dap up donghak for me
Are perks going to be in esports games as soon s they release
Yes
Oh boy
Ye
lol
Lol
Uber casting for so many games
Pretty sure he does Valorant, rocket league, marvel rivals, and overwatch. At least that I know of.
Brawl stars as well
it's less that about watching them on another broadcast, I've watched uber doing a banger job in the mobile esports space
it's just why and who would be interested in one of the smallest regions being broadcasted in early EU/NA hours
There's a reason the overwatch league broadcasted replays
but only for Asia matches when dallas fuel, LA Valiant and Philadephia Fusion were over there, but no encore streams the other way round
real
Wait why are they doing single elimination FT4 like it's the grand finals
anyways, map 4 is going to nyam gaming, the VARREL killers if I ever seen one
tonight we're watching Sakura pop off with D.va pocketed by Lifeweaver Finn
https://www.twitch.tv/sejfinn/clip/YawningImportantBeefPraiseIt-eTGQlP87DzrORDLz
Watch SEjFiNN's clip titled "The OWCS x LE SSERAFIM collab we never knew we needed"
old pharah gonna be back finally
Lol
How does one live without owcs šš
are you following the esports announcements posts
I think he means the kr na emea
Scrimmed with perks and its incredibly fun, fresh gameplay added to the game but doesn't strip away from core fundamentals at all, that being said there are def heroes that need to be adjusted, but they were already strong pre patch, so in general, seems like a good direction š
First day impression they arenāt bad
cool
but importantly
they are appealing in scrims to a pro player (and grinder)
thatās a good sign
Or is he saying it for pr
have you watched a tr33 stream before
heās not marketable
If blizzard is paying ppl to say certain things
Maybe
Never open tht channel ngl
Tr33 is the last guy getting paid by blizzard
More of a brand risk than super
Most ppl seem to be enjoying perks tho
Facts
Pge is blacklisted
They had to bc heās too deep in for owcs
no cap
Crazy that pge is gone when perks drop
Based TR33
Like where is goat
The ones who went to Test play perks and bans are the ones they care about
pge was streaming today wym
Bro heās live dn
lol
Rn
LOL
wait he's back
ngl you're missing out on key information, bud
heās still lived
He got 2k viewers
He been back since like last week
Where was bro this weekend
the way this just shows a dead channel link is so annoying
iām sure the competitive integrity of the japan bracket wonāt be thrown into question at all
surely
I swear there was a day or two where he just wasn't live and I was watching Lenny
There was
Lenny never streams when pge does
No one does bro
He steals the viewers
View hog gg
Which is crazy
All the Owcs streamers are live rn tho
Lenny has a better mic a better camera hes better at the game
But he don't got that charisma fr
I think Pge is just more funny
more aura
Lenny is funny to
Wait
But pge is funny
patching for OWL had literally destroyed all hope that the esport would grow, kaplan rarely took on pro player feedback despite what people believed during ow1, and it's a region most of us are genuinely excited about for the first time since the region had its own players
Iāll wait for the yt video i lowkey hate his streams š
Idk
they really got hawk back on ow for ts
tsk tsk
New gen
This gen z kids man
@torn portal though i do hope that Japan does have a cry over VARREL if they don't know how to win with perks or if Please No Hero Ban get outright eliminated tonight over it
we got some good games coming up
I go to super and heās on reaper
Im gen pge
torb perks are broken
He couldnāt resist the money
ball perks are solid
Avg flats streams
wait yeah the perks for him are cool
Cartifan22 said doom is good so doom is busted chat
He left ow since marvel came out and only comes back for drops. Going to the spotlight stream and having 23k on twit h
i'm not saying the perk effects are the problem, it's if the teams pick the wrong ones against their opponents or just fail to use them correctly
He goes where the bag is.
getquakedon canāt play dps doom gg his viewer count is cooked
I get it
because imagine the ball 1 trick gets outplayed by hard counters with their perks or worse
Rupal got 200 views
loses to the mirror with the same perks
He got 39
Vega is always great live
Vega streams?
Yea
just standard comp streamer fare
boutta be 40
.tv/vegaoverwatchh
rupal?
OW at 113k and MARVEL at 66k. Itās just the same players switching
