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Nothing beats a reverse sweep into a reverse sweep
dorado was just silly
yea cx is saying that too
its like he wants to play anything but juno
Aura high noon
well Galaa is better Juno based on last season
still doesnt mean he shouldnt mirror
true
bro what
VP looking good
GenG coulnd't move a single meter on push
Time to relegate Gen G NOW
Push moment
Sauna the only one who felt like he did something
mag looked god first point map 1
then he went ball
Ye well Khenail the opposite, he went Ana then after swapping he looked good
yeah at least consistently
soon time
Landon farmed rush just to get out played by the FD push
He was on aoma with topdragon
These French guys are kinda farming
I think there's only 2 French guys now lol
Damn
Ik he’s not
Eis xyod Ken aren’t French
tred is getting farmed bro
Everyone else is
hows soon looking?
get ziyad in bro
alright lets go peps
The commander x curse might be real
not getting lucio banned
ye well idk if its really needed cuz fdgod doesn't play much else either right
true actually
only thing I know is he plays illari but shes not really meta
well and brig ofc
Only person not getting diffed is Landon
why are all the koreans so shit today
The Jaewoo guy looked pretty good 🔥
mag was ok too when he wasnt on ball
but i feel like a lot of them are underperforming
ye well I can understand Mag underperforming, cause he hasn't been in EU right, but topdragon and checkmate i expect more from
yea
alr peps just win this quick i wanna see kev play
i wanna see mag vs chase ball
why would u play chase when u have Ksaa
YES QLM IS IN
I believe in his winston
put my goat on ahse even if it is soj meta
I guess the pharah otp couldn't cut it
well ye but u only play winston on a few maps
Wait qlms tracking is insane wtf
i remember when dafran accused qlm of aimbot before lol
chris wants to play a lot of dive this year so who knows
ye but id assume u do that against teams that dont have a tank that plays winston
nah he wants to mirror koreans on dive this year as well lol
well idk if he was serious or not but he said he wanted to on uncoachable
oh then we may see it
but ksaa seems to be their hazard guy so we'll probably see him for the most part
for now
bro i just missed that blade
nahhhhh
nah
what is happening
FDGod, YOU are now unemployed
Ajax so early he was back in time
what was that stagger attempt lol
fdgod...
tf happened
al qadshit just put the fries in the bag
3-0verwatch
al qaedah bro come on
💀
Hell yeah
BY PEPS???
why they put my man qlm in last match
Yeah
peps is good bruh
Tbf peps just look really good
they got xzodyal
Besides FD always being good for one ajax
and yall were glazing aq earlier today
it wasn't glaze
The roster just wasn't bad on paper
nah bro who was glazing this team 😭
and it still isn't
they almost beat the ultimates before too
Peps is just better
like 4 randoms on the roster
and now they lose to peps
and then checkmate and landon
so he's shit basically
Rest of the roster definitely have higher expectations
Plus Landon on Juno Kiri it might be cooked for this patch
the only one who doesent reeally have potential in that team is the fkn mercy otp that they for some reason decided to bring in lol
how they afford checkmate but not a main support
They low-key just needed an eleague roster
The main support market is pretty shit tho
anything over him bro
like just get a tank to play thesuport
like im not even joking he was a hard mercy one trick
Ik
just pocketing yznsa and lbbda before qualifiers 🤣
He only exist to pocket yzn
Why does seeker jersey have so much aura
watch the video
TWILIGHT TIMEEEEE
he’s likely not playing, not in eu yet
that’s what i’ve heard
Gotta be cap
i have a bad memory but i think chris mentioned in uncoachable that he’s just not there yet
I heard about that but that was like 2 weeks ago
and wasn’t playing in qualifiers
If he not playing imma be upset
EWWW WHAT A STICK
not if kev has anything to say about it 😼
Ultimates got a crazy for roster for nothing
the ultimates as in using 4 ults in one fights
LOL
China chill bro 😭
China looking like prime Leave
china and zorrow and connected like bluetooth
man just put the fries in the bag
OOP
I swear they lose with ksaa
Put twilight in
what a day
my bum ass team 😭
during qualifiers they always won with chase and lost with ksaa
ocie put tu on fraud watch and shes possibly right
i mean chase has more chemistry fs so
also dive is kinda their cheat code against other eu teams also
but still
good round
just let chase and kev cook
ez4tu
oh chase is still in
they going for the ball comp
haahah kev
All the eu teams are kinda cooking
MAN JUST KEEP PLAYING CHASE
wait why was alphayi on lucio😭 😭 😭
good question
u think this power ranking was accurate
from xavier
Mid.G and Al Qashitia mad overrated
Maybe
It's day one he's just predicting the bracket by the end of stage 1
It could still turn out like tht ngl
Plus I think we get a patch mid stage right?
VP dominated and none of the holes xavier pointed out were shown
Geng also played horribly tho
All trolling aside there isn't enough information to tell
By the 3rd week we'll probably have our top 3-4 ngl
I didn't expect peps to look tht good tho
jaewoo shockwave was deadly on vp, both crusty/junkbucks teams crashed out, and kai is only getting older
summary of eu
fdgod back again?
no he ajax’d maybe even twice
he still ajaxed
always good for one
but other than tht he was fine
i hope gen g bounce back
. this was commander x
If history does repeat itself peps will fumble
jaewoo is a goat dps
id say A tier dps for asia ngl
jaewoo is cracked
even Ans complimented his dps too
sauna my goat but even he couldn’t fight back against jaefreak
My biggest gripe with this meta is Kiri just bc my favorite fsupps have the most inconsistent Kiri ever
galaa was looking clean
honestly the team id cheer for in eu is Vp jaewoo and TU for twilight
wait wake back up team liquid is playing vs timeless
knife just bladed 2
like why is my Rupal dead to chopper and chopper only every fight
chopper literally good
rupal needs to go juno
And squid felt like throwing I guess
classic na, can only run kiri lucio sojourn
Literally
If my Rupal looks at his monitor yeah
Why is squid on Moira😭
Squid is an odd guy
Or maybe he's on to something
damn watching emea is hilarious
I keep saying it Vega has 0 clutch genes
interesting comp
he will always die when it matters most
we got moira sojourn
we don't lose with 5 ults yeah
And my Rupal is dead to chopper
💀
chopper is actually generational
moira wouldnt work here
the sole Korean on this roster is keeping them alive
permanently
They almost lost to a moria comp bc chopper has aimbot for Rupal I guess
korean aura is insane
Watched chopper whiff every oc just to kill Rupal after
what
team liquid isn’t as proven as the players on timeless. they’ve been together for ages now
Tho they probably scrimmed tons it’s still surprising
Can chopper play more than Souj?
unc
he's actually trolling
wtf was that
Genji
No other hitscan tho?
I mean technically but I've seen him on genji more than Cass I swear
I was gonna call for a Souj ban to see if TR33 is really that guy or not
Only good at lan lowkey
😭
I mean he plays everything
where are the coaching documents
The biggest strength of this roster is flexibility
team liquid has a huge comm problem
goofy ahh region
couldve won many fights
Literally was gonna say this🤣
no idea if knife can speak english ngl
real
I thought they were gonna be serious this season too
Bro what is my Rupal on
lel
hell no
The region is the exact same when u really think of about it
Top 2 teams then ntmr for the upset and a bunch of filler rosters
fr
yea liquid cant win with those goofy focusing
prob lack of comms
why isn't raikker washed
Good for Timeless man
liquid scaring me
chopper has aimbot for him and him only
is hazard even that strong? feels like off meta wins pretty often
Like I'm pretty sure he has 0 final blows that aren't Rupal 😭
Yes yes he is
I’m closely watching liquid’s dps line, just not convinced yet
But teams kinda suck at hazard
If you watch korea hazard mirrors u see how oppressive the hero is
like look at korea bernar wins on dva
they have comm issue
best dva in da world fr
But it's better with bans at least
bro played dva since owl
It’s mainly TR33, people talking about him like he’s the next coming of god in NA, and I’m just like “He’s okay🤷♂️”
I mean he's already proven
yea comm issue with knife
this isn't an individual issue just lacking macro and probably a comm issue
fuck even amplify, a team of complete randoms, got to regular season with their mauga sombra comp
That's how the west usually is tho
Any news on Mer1t?
oh yea knife was bench in cr
Off meta teams can do more bc nobody plays the meta properly
he can't play until next stage with someone
Is that cause of a no compete clause?
Heard commander x saying that was a possible reason
They got rule booked bc they pulled out of their t1 deal I think
something like tht
Makes sense
I feel like teams are not brave enough to experiment
I mean yeah
Spilo talked about this, teams are just playing to not be in last place rather than experiment and possibly win
lowkey saw more non hazard in korea tho
True
please someone make the korean blood start to work on knife
Could be a map pool thing tho
insane winton
I do think the EMEA/na map pool favors a lot of hazard
this is na btw
Why did I come back liquid is down a map
u not gonna miss much anyway tbh xD
the scrim bucks were telling us the future
I didn't believe in the scrim but yet i was wrong
What’s even going on
Also chopper only shows up in the kill feed to kill Rupal
Is it just a team diff
Like what is this
Yeah
Is timeless that good
Alright where's the documents
The team is just so split
infekted the new donghak
is this true?
everyone gonna flame him
it seems like knife is playing on ping, kinda difficult to play like that
🤔
infekted crashing out on rupal rn im betting
what happened to comm checks
infekted saying too many slurs for that...
Trueeee
I’m not watching who’s selling
Everyone
Mainly Rupal and Infekted tho I guess
Very impressed from Raikker
The macro is non existent 💔
yo wtf is happening xD
There’s no synergy
I'm assuming raikker is one of those guys who got really good at hazard
Like my Infekted is not ult tracking i fear
like hitori
I’m seeing this issue with a lot of the “better” teams
Knife is getting farmed🤣🤣🤣
I mean raikker in his prime was pretty good
Bro is free ult charge
You say as he kills 2
a really good ball and hazard will get you far in this meta
These guys would lose to new era
who was saying tl > zeta
Chill
xDDDDDDD
On paper
Teams highkey fraud on the haz
Who was saying that????
It seemed like it but in the game
bro the amount of times ive seen "on paper" today
I’m not seeing it
Alot of these teams on paper seems nice
Nice stick
Paper can't predict teams being shit at the meta tho unfortunately
Pretty sure this hazard meta will be gone come season 15 tho
Doesn't help that we got no scrims either
what is intfeketed doing
Like who thought my owl champ winning support and my supposed hyper improved tank would sell
Infekted might actually be the new Donghak
He got put on a serious team
And is selling
Tbh
It's a Lucio meta with Vega on his team
The bad luck might be holding them back
Also there’s a chance Ssg might look worse
Commanderx said Ssg has@some synergy issues
They weren’t winning any scrims
this just in: na is once again fraudulent
okay I take it back maybe scrims do predict how teams will perform xd
Timeless best na team?
alr they clutched up last second
HE FINALLY DOES IT
better than a loss
timeless probably take this map tho
its 0
😭
Knife isn’t in na yet?
Neither team gets a point and they move on to the next map
nope
Why are we not letting the best player play off pung
Get this man in North America
Losing to lukemino
In 2025
wtf
They place ring then don't move for 3s then tried to go super late
Somehow it worked
zoning ring
Surely we don’t get swept
Bro has never played this good in his life
Nah
These guys are getting paid 80k a year to get farmed
cx curse
Liquid started looking better later into the map so maybe they lock in
Opened the mapped horribly tho
This is pretty surprising honestly
Guys its fine, casores scales into the late season. Once he gets his "post 1st international throw" item, its free
and Knife will decide to aim
Unironically true
and Rupal will stop finding ways to die first on juno
which is a thing
and vega
well tbh vega looks fine rn overall
I cant even blame him bruh look my genji
the Vega glow up is real
its cooked
its really just infekted rupal
That's what I was saying
its fine if they wanna play deep to trade but
knife is never there
so it ends up being infekted inting and knife afking
Besides Rupal dying first every fight the team just isnt coordinated
they also lost to timeless in that leaked scrim
and like idk tr33 is getting gapped rn by chopper
but at the same time its not like tr33 has been given ANY space to work with
is tree getting gapped or is Rupal feeding
Tr33 fraud agenda incoming
ong like 93% of choppers kills is just Rupal being stupid 😭
tr33 could do something if infekted made space
which makes everyone look shit
and rupal wasnt always in spawn
idk if I blame tr33 solo
Tr33 and infekted
knife also had his moments
his team is so bad
like bro
LIKE LOL
Who is paying rupal
nah Rupal and knife gotta be trolling
Be bonest
WHAT CAN MY LUCIO EVEN DO BRO LET VEGA OUT OF HELL
rupal was streaming till like 5 am his time
The squid zen is scary I guess
Chopper is a fucking marksman
yk how casores is
lucio buff holy
He's gonna force his team to mirror the meta no matter how shit they are at it
Never forget Dallas
EVERY FIGHT
HES DEAD TO CHOPPER
yeah
and then they learned to not do that perma
and suddenly started winning
wild how that happened
long story short infekted is cheeks at doom and jq
and haz apparently
ok but
who tf is playing doom and jq rn
hazard is the issue rn
but so is knife
Donghak 🔥
like again its not JUST infekted alone knife never follows on anything
i didnt think knife was that bad
He's not
tf is that engage
He's just on ping and a new team
nvm maybe he is that bad
infekted kinda has to play haz here tho since they banned winston
and then they cant win next fight
like u are walking into a blade with nothing
so u just die
on point
unless we trust his ball
like the fight before that was the issue that recontest was fucked no matter waht
These rookies are frauding out
If they just banned hazard they could run anything else and look better
Forcing the mirror into the team who's better is so dumb
Chopper just playing insanely good
yea idk why they are doing a support protect ban here seems weird
WHAT IS INFEKTED DOING THERE BRUH
Wait knife locked it in
finally fucking was useful
saving haz ban for map 4 ig
this map
I will say Vega and knife usually get value when they take these flanks together
I forget heroes can only be banned once per team per series
but then knife does that shit
Rest of their team is getting farmed
all we had to do
was just beat engage soj
and not die
before beat goes off
and then
.................
Im convinced casores threw away the documents
Casores is not cooking
Where is Lenny
oh my god knife is deadlifting
See knife is fine when he doesn't die first
I mean
ig?
so is vio2t
but
yknow
1v1 a nano soj ult
do you guys think kellan got a good hazard
tml just a bunch of feral spirits ngl
I didnt see his games tbh
I cant judge
idk if hes played yet
Can’t wait to watch him next series
The life of mechanically talented players
We'll see after this
being so deadass hes a double edged sword for a main support
you can be mechanically talented, and not fucking int
but then again its crazy how zeta pack ftg with alphayi offroling
Not allowed
I mean like he got 7 beats or something on runasapi, and somehow solo beated half of them
its like impressively unimpresive
idk
unless ur a top 3 Korean talent you can't do both
I mean there are western players
Chopper is the best player in the world
thats for damn sure
Sugarfree has proven himself, funnyastro has as well
Infekted is playing like hot ass
kevster has proven himself
poor knife
squid is super good this game
I mean it is about time he locked in
XD
series before this he had like 2 moments
Maybe now they lock in
surely
Team liquid front office is mad asf probably
With every round loss they slowly get it together
Liquid getting swept would be hilarious
They invested all this money
Maybe by stage 3 they'll be ready

knifes been getting good blades its just intfeked always being out of position
im coining that btw
"intfekted"
bro sure but like knfie is also perma out of position
he had some good looking moments in like super rough fights
I can’t watch it anymore
but in like half of the fights hes just mute if its anything close to a clean fight
TL is getting swept
Are we sure they aren’t being paid to throw
wait they did it?
Where is this said good hazard at?
bros glazin lol
they played somewhat slow and were able to trade out resources
I don't even think Infekted is bad at hazard liquid is just bad at the comp
instead of just sending it from 2 miles away and dying
I never thought I would see it
“Most flexible na team”
Toronto curse
tl locking in?
Losing to lukefish and squid
Flexible just not on the meta
Chopper is just him
Chopper locks in against very specific people
First it was Hydron
Now Rupal
Omg
OH
did they finally learn to play ow
they just read the spreadsheet
finalllly
They finally learned how to say 321 in coms
LMFAO
I mean how they lose that fight idk
I want timeless to 3-0 them so bad
but whatver
okay their dookie again
so infekted was always saying that?
na overclock
that stagger just won the game
na overclock
Infekted clutched with that slash ngl
Holy Infekted locked
He finally remember who he was
OH MY GOD
idk about that ray actually
ok there is an angle
Still probably over but
Why is Vega the best player on the team
Why does this team only lock in when it's too late
they have ray this might be gg
Why is he the only one who’s improved over the off season
I mean
he has no resources they used to trade the initial engage and the hazard
it wasnt bad for him to die there tbh
oh my god they didnt lose
ah I see
This team is actually pissing me off
casores just turned on their brainchips that turn them korean
clearly they're capable but they just refuse to be good
its again
they just overforce a lot of engages
like way too early
I don’t think they’re taking this seriously
or they look for an engage and nobody is set up
Remember when nrg beat td
so its like awkward
idk about that
they need to hard target chopper every fight and maybe they win
it could be true but I would never bank on it
Lucio gap
its a bit of a cope
GOD DAMN IT INFEKTED JUST KITE
Not the mauga pick
why does he just stand there
rupal needed orbital there
Not his fault
ok but just ray mauga and u win
His tank should've got out
His tank was feeding
At ultra speed
He stood on point like a idiot
Only one real mistake that round
ok very very good hold
They're slowly getting it together
good round
Can we get infekted checked out tho
infekted feeding gave them such a good advantage on orbital
I like that timeless is good tho
^
not just tl and ssg going back and forth
nasty sleep but
good sleep it was just too late
What did u do
bro
YESSSSSS
u actually just cursed them so hard
that is quite funny
Myb
YESSSSSSSSSSS
bro said this a Vega world and gets picked
I actually just cursed him
another big upset in NA with team liquid losing 0-3 against Timeless
wrath of ra on vega
I keep saying it man
The Vega clutch gene is non existent
Like he goes from 89 overall to 60
Liquid Shit
team shitquid
yeah
Casores can now use the documents tho
casores put all his stat points into vod reviews
I need to see the comms
Not even his fault lowkey
infekted overhyped
Infekted took 3 maps to learn over extending isn't ok
alright now
chopper was on one today
He thought hydron was in the lobby and locked in
we not forgetting fluffy dreamland lil bro
Ok now NTMR needs to win
I do have my money on ntmr
Looking at the stats
Early season lenny is cooked
Liquid had better stats but timeless played better b
uh sort of?
do not look at squid vs rupal
stats
its like
DAMN
Yea Rupal got gapped into oblivion
he definitely threw Samoa
2023 owl champion for what?
the team just locked in too late
It's usually like this lol
tr33 pays the price for offroling to the max in his streams
Tr33 is hyper flex gang
Season one stage one had similar reactions
He's talking about tree going for rank 1 all roles
Not this match
lets see him take the 1s fr next time with his other fellow hitscan counterparts
timeless #1 na team in this meta?
They still gon make lan
Who knows
maybe liquid is just shit
At the beginning of stage 1 m80 looked like a real lan competitor
But look what happened
liquid > zeta btw
ye but coluge is cheeks
cant comm for his life
Why is soe thirsting over this young man
married and has kids btw
who isn't thirsting for shirtless danteh
Cheesing from ear to ear is crazy
literally you rn
Someone tell her husband
Only when I see you
alr what is the main take away from this upset
I still have faith in liquid bc it was the same storyline for Toronto lol
is timeless goated? is liquid shit? is infekted washed?
Liquid are still making lan
one vod review and they took na
They played like ass
did they just have a bad day :p
I mean first game of the season timeless just better than expected and liquid making mistakes in crucial moments
It’s just casual na
welp they got scissors and hawk as emergency subs so get ready to do so
They finally got it together at the end but it was too late
We not gonna forgot early season td
They are NOT getting subbed
lets hope they dont
Pre ewc td was actually shit stains
they are unpaid and uninterested
should they not ntmr prolly gets ravaged
ong
Liquid just need to warm up
If they don’t warm up
Na is just ass
But we knew that
na only good at lan is the funniest thing ever
whats next
They were never playing bro
ntmr and ssg next right?
They're not even contracted
yes like rn pretty much
hawk doesn't even want to play but scissors should highkey get a contract
well definitely
with infekted and tr33 actin a bit suspect in the crashout compilations
watch ntmr 3-0 them
i want ntmr to win now
Kellan just Supermanned over the roof
kellan getting his hp edged
oh my
Can we talk about Lenny
the aura...
Like
This guy is just 10x better than any other na player
No glaze
It’s just true
Zeruhh threw the pulse off the map
Pack it up
Cjay DAMn
He got hard gapped
Gent
Genuinely
Cjay killed lethal and juked and then diffed zeruhh
sugarfree just came back from a vacation and is just shitting on everyone XD
So like was unter lying or were the 2 scrims they got in with Lenny enough
ram? :p
bro went from luffy cosplayin with a ting he pulls to ravaging ntmr with only 4 days of scrimming with the team
why is cuffa on ram
Hazard is gone
someone explain the theory
on some close maps
