esports-discussion

[bleak yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-happy-but-sad-face-gif-19422780

[robust patio]

overall dps ranking

1. Lip
2. Stalk3r
3. Heesang
4. Proper
5. Proud
6. Alphayi
7. Prophet
8. Viper
9. Flora
10. Whoru
11. Seonjun
12. D0D0
13. Zest
14. Pelican
15. Ade

[deft marlin]

Yea he was insane

[bleak yoke]

0. PGE

I TYPED 0

[robust patio]

😭

[bleak yoke]

I hate autocorrect

[deft marlin]

Surprised you have Proper outside of the top 3

[bleak yoke]

Heesang number 2 cuz thank you heesang

[robust patio]

i was deciding on proper and stalker

but stalker overall better this season

[bleak yoke]

oh god violet is on lucio

[agile kestrel]

Stalker over proper what the heck

[bleak yoke]

it might be over

[robust patio]

oh god

[bleak yoke]

I can hear the cashapp already

[robust patio]

for this season

[bleak yoke]

proper is better than stalker what r u smoking

[robust patio]

well see how proper does for remaining matches tho

[robust patio]

yes i know

but not the matches for owcs korea atm

[bleak yoke]

Fair fair

I don't really pay attention to the other regions as much as I should

its mostly na I watch

[robust patio]

YO VIPER GENJI

IS INSANE

TF

[bleak yoke]

but now that my glorious nrg is gone....I might watch korea more

[bleak yoke]

shush

I don't want to think about that

[robust patio]

man single handly killed 2 and won a fight

but zeta win

[bleak yoke]

zeta got this I believe in them

[robust patio]

interview before t1 vs zeta

[agile kestrel]

No like he actually just plays whatever he feels like

[robust patio]

t1 coach Rush : Zeta has accomplished nothing

jesus viper is like

insane

dps form condition rn

tf

[bleak yoke]

t1 is smelly get them out of my crappy hero shooter

at least they arent trying to join siege 🙏

[robust patio]

viper mvp

for sure

[bleak yoke]

I mean yeah

as much as i want to diss him I have to agree

[robust patio]

what was that tracer movement jesus

his genji and tracer

[bleak yoke]

He's just an insanely good dps player

[robust patio]

another dps diff killing flora

[bleak yoke]

how have I never heard of him

[robust patio]

u just didnt watch korea region as much

its fine

u should watch it more :)

another viper kill

[bleak yoke]

I should

[robust patio]

bro is just on fire

[bleak yoke]

I've kinda just been paying attention to ow less recently tho, hella burnt out (plus I'm banned :>)

[robust patio]

dam

zeta finally winning

[bleak yoke]

on my knees praying violet doesnt somehow throw this

[robust patio]

proud viper duo

insane

[bleak yoke]

Alphayi is getting diffed 😭

[robust patio]

they both were poker face once

[bleak yoke]

so is flora

[robust patio]

yes

[bleak yoke]

I reckon the zeta supports are way better tho

[robust patio]

yea

after qualifying

someone and merit

might join t1

[bleak yoke]

Oh god

then theyll have an actually good tank LOL

[robust patio]

yea he told me he wanted to join falcon tho

[bleak yoke]

donghak is like the violet of tanks imo

[robust patio]

but roster lock happened and he has to stay in t1

[bleak yoke]

Oh noooo I have to play for (probably) one of the best teams in the world (although falcons did just win the lan last year if I remember right)

[robust patio]

yes

[bleak yoke]

OH YM GOD VIOLET NEARLY HTRW

that beat took years off my life

[robust patio]

alphayi genji that combo

was nuts

[bleak yoke]

dude was like 30 hp and beating 😭

[robust patio]

t1 and zeta are basically equal

i love how it aint one sided

[bleak yoke]

I mean yeah theyre super close

t1 with better supports might be insane

[robust patio]

skewed might be mvp

holy

every roster from t1 is insane atm

[bleak yoke]

lowk forgot he was in the game 🙏

[bleak yoke]

I mean yeah they have the money to have the best players

[robust patio]

real

[bleak yoke]

wtf did skewed just do

maybe he is good

just get him off kiri 😭

[robust patio]

lel

[bleak yoke]

what was that beat

that did nothing

[robust patio]

damn

this is close

[bleak yoke]

but delay their deaths

[bleak yoke]

yea

[robust patio]

SHEESH

THAT COMM

WAS INSANE

[bleak yoke]

t1 has more ults 😭

[robust patio]

VIPER PROUD

[bleak yoke]

it mihgt be over

[robust patio]

NO WAY

[bleak yoke]

NVM

[robust patio]

VIPER CARRIED THAT LAST POINT

VIPER AND PROUD FOCUS WAS ON POINT

[bleak yoke]

one fight left (i think)

[robust patio]

yea

if t1 wins

if not then 2more

[bleak yoke]

NOOOOO

WHAT DID ZETA DO THERE

THEY JUST LET THEM HAVE IT

😭

actually crying

im gonna go cry now

[deft marlin]

Great matches honestly

Glad T1 is good

[bleak yoke]

Might have to swap to unters stream just so I don't scream

[robust patio]

i knew t1 was good lel

yall didnt believe in t1

[bleak yoke]

Why is he playing marbles 😭

[deft marlin]

I’m just watching it off the overwatch esports Japan YouTube

[bleak yoke]

I was but like

unter is like

funny

[robust patio]

im just watching in afreecaTb

Tv

[deft marlin]

How did WHORU do earlier @robust patio

[robust patio]

absolutely dominated vec

one sided af

got potm

[deft marlin]

I gotta watch that later

Was he on Genji?

[bleak yoke]

its whoru theres like a 99% chance he plays genji

[deft marlin]

Yea but sometimes the comp doesn’t call for it and I don’t think WAY has any subs for dps

[bleak yoke]

I don't think I've ever seen him on a character that isn't genji

[bleak yoke]

Well yeah thats true

I have no idea who else he plays ngl

[deft marlin]

Pelican in

[robust patio]

t1 banned tracer

alphayi

we might see soj genji more

[bleak yoke]

lowk forgot the match was still going

my heart can't take more of zetas throwing

[deft marlin]

Viol2t Zen?????

[bleak yoke]

Oh nah im happy I closed the stream

[robust patio]

damn

zen

[bleak yoke]

I don't wanna see that

[robust patio]

we seeing genji

pelican genji jesus

he might be top 10 idk

top15 at least

[deft marlin]

Pelican is insane wtffffff

[robust patio]

huh

VIPER

CHILLLLLLLL

BROTHER

zeta has nano genji soon

ouch

[deft marlin]

Huge sleep by finn

[robust patio]

proud sheesh

PROUD

HOLY

vio kiri

bruh both t1 dps are legit

onto somethit

gg tho

[deft marlin]

All this talent upsets me knowing only 2 teams go to LAN😭😭

[robust patio]

thats basically every korean team lel

cr falc

or cr t1

cr falc zeta t1

VIOLET KIRI WTF

proud sheesh

BRUH VIOLET IS MAD

[deft marlin]

Violets ability to switch between flex and main on the fly is something that is overshadowed by is amount of throws he has

Kinda upsets me

[robust patio]

he an ow1 legend

still a legend ig

zeta wins this i think

THAT SLEEP

BUT WINS

proud again

at this point idek who the mvp is lmao

[deft marlin]

Bro that sleep would’ve been crazy if the high noon killed him

Holy shit

[robust patio]

he had nano thats why

noon wasnt fast enof

bob kiri ult

sad

zeta wins this

gg

these games are close

2:2

[deft marlin]

I’m glad we’re getting another map

This first week of OWCS Korea has been fire asf

[robust patio]

real

[viscid hatch]

Should’ve included china in Asia and then just send 4 Asian teams

[deft marlin]

This would be cool too

[viscid hatch]

Do they not know china is in Asia or something

I think they’re really trying to appeal to china

‘Please come back to us and have your own region’

[deft marlin]

I wish it was just more teams per region at LAN in general

Why not send the Top 4 teams from every region to LAN🤷‍♂️

[viscid hatch]

Nah

We don’t need a citrus nation making lan

[deft marlin]

Nah that’d be fucking hilarious

Citrus Nation vs T1🤣🤣🤣

[robust patio]

my point

[deft marlin]

Is it a map pick reset now?

Hate push

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/99divine_/status/1883381306001961069?t=aRIOBtdzphY6rOIJWivB9w&s=19

99 DIVINE (@99divine_) on X

Team meeting in Hongdae!!

(Zesin ran away to watch SOOP before photobooth)

X · Jan 26, 2025, 5:07 AM

99D having a good time before aniyun's OWCS Pacific debut

[deft marlin]

I think Pelican thought not only did he have Blade by he thought he was playing with an Ana😭

[sullen berry]

T1 proceeds to retake the push bot

The misplay is egregious

[deft marlin]

The way he dashed in looked like he was anticipating a nano

[sullen berry]

Well he must have thought Juno ult was available

[robust patio]

gg

zeta

close fight

sheesh

[sullen berry]

Donghak on ball to save the push cap is insane

Unfortunately, gg with the team wipe

Wp zeta

[deft marlin]

Great series

[viscid hatch]

Gg close game

[deft marlin]

Genuinely

[viscid hatch]

You guys watching avrl 😂😂

[agile kestrel]

What a game

[sullen berry]

It's a shame only 5 people are watching this series between two partnered teams 😭

[robust patio]

violet potm expected

[agile kestrel]

LOL

[sullen berry]

I stick with the JP raw instead of the English dub

[robust patio]

i watch afreeca tv

[sullen berry]

Even then I would probably stick with commanderx and unter

[robust patio]

lel

[sullen berry]

If only the same amount of effort put into 24hr subtitling for Anime was applied to Korean Overwatch livestreams

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[deft marlin]

Violet interview in the Big 2025

[sullen berry]

Damn, youre a Freec'

[robust patio]

LOL

[sullen berry]

Like I would be interested in watching VODs instead if a quality fan translation existed but the editing and subtitling length is too much

[glass sleet]

Another banger ends with an unfortunate beat

On the same map

[robust patio]

violet kiri

[deft marlin]

Who’s next

[robust patio]

insane

[sullen berry]

Huge game next

[robust patio]

era vs ftg

[sullen berry]

For tiebreaking potential on the scoreboard

[glass sleet]

New era V FTG

[robust patio]

ftg might win

[sullen berry]

New Era took a map off falcons

[glass sleet]

Dodo vs FTG

[deft marlin]

Should be a good series then

[robust patio]

ftg took a map off cr

[sullen berry]

I put more faith in New Era

[robust patio]

basically every korean seed team is legit insane

[sullen berry]

But it really depends how they feel after yesterday's match against the best in the world

[glass sleet]

And FTG took a map off CR

[robust patio]

expect for poker face

[glass sleet]

Right…?

I don’t remember

[sullen berry]

I wish I knew how close the VEC match was, I assume it wasn't

[sullen berry]

You mean day 1 Raccoons vs ZETA where ZD took a map?

[robust patio]

it wasnt close at all lel

[glass sleet]

I’m talking about FTG

[robust patio]

whoru legit dominated

[sullen berry]

That was yesterday's game, right

[deft marlin]

Bro don’t chalk it up to CR warming up and that’s why FTG got a map, Prophet and Seonjun were genuinely on 100% for the first map and a half

[glass sleet]

Yea

[robust patio]

ftg took a map against cr and new era took a map against falc

this gonna be fun

[glass sleet]

Nah FLC were trolling when they last in King’s row

Chiyo was trolling so hard

[sullen berry]

I don't doubt it, but seonjun little p need to show a lot more confidence next time they face Raccoons and Falcons to stay competitive or at the very least most improved this season

[sullen berry]

I'm so excited to be back in time to watch this match

[agile kestrel]

Seonjuns clip dumps r magnificent

[deft marlin]

Yea they were doing good, but they were also the reason they lost

In the later maps they just weren’t performing the same

Once Lip went on Ashe it was over

[agile kestrel]

Saudi on tob

[sullen berry]

Slapstick Sunday for you https://fxtwitter.com/danteh/status/995204285355909120?t=cHKK160DL9mmw6GoD2AQJg&s=19

[deft marlin]

Ftg coach got a huge ass coat on🤣

[robust patio]

still took a map

new era sheesh

100:0

one sided??

[deft marlin]

GG

Shit looked like a ranked match

What happened

Tech issues?

[robust patio]

sound

issue

[deft marlin]

Ohhh

[robust patio]

vigil fans

damn we seeing torb

ftg winnin

100:0 from new era
100:0 from ftg

lol

[deft marlin]

That was a crazy beat by vindaim

Vindaim troll

[robust patio]

vindaim lmao

[hazy marsh]

dawg

[glass sleet]

The goat

[robust patio]

nice ult

heesung

but ruler better

seonjun sheesh

prophet mad

gg

ftg gg

[deft marlin]

I can’t get over this production quality

So good

[robust patio]

yes its better than owl ewc and faceit

[deft marlin]

I like how like how much they show you the players

[robust patio]

that place is is located in Hongik university

my friend goes there

[deft marlin]

Oh it’s at a university?

That must be pretty cool especially if you’re an attendee of that university

[robust patio]

yes

[agile kestrel]

Mcd is so old bro

[robust patio]

ftg winning

[deft marlin]

“New Era took a map off Falcons”

[robust patio]

yes

no one can beat cr and falc

maybe ftg and t1 can beat falc who knows

[deft marlin]

I think with more matches played FTG and T1 have a chance

[robust patio]

rush: zeta has accomplished nothing

karma happens

[deft marlin]

😭

[robust patio]

echo ban

hmm

[deft marlin]

Out of all of OWCS this year the 2 teams I’m on the lookout for now are FTG and Once Again, when they make it to LAN

[robust patio]

by seeing how much lower seed korean teams are playing

i dont think once again can beat ftg at this point

if they ever meet

[deft marlin]

It’ll definitely be interesting to watch atleast

[robust patio]

last game starting

or will it

[deft marlin]

🤣

[robust patio]

reverse sweep incoming?

[deft marlin]

Nahhh

[robust patio]

yea

prophet dps is too good

fastest cap

[deft marlin]

Yes that’s embarrassing

[robust patio]

dodo genji is insane

imma play league brb

[robust patio]

who won

oh zeta won

[mortal cipher]

If opener didn’t Ajax I believe T1 probably wouldn’t won

[torn portal]

GG weakest link did its job

[mortal cipher]

It wasn’t a terrible Ajax just it during chaos and the last few seconds

[static turret]

T1 lowkey a good team

Dongzard is nice

[hybrid hollow]

Donghak not ass???

Was donghak just not a traditional main tank guy?

[mortal cipher]

He was just forced on Monke all year

Plus he got bullied by Chiyo half the time to add

[mortal cipher]

Could be top 3 actually

[mortal cipher]

He was good last year

[static turret]

Donghak not on monkey is a actual solid tank

Also falcons don’t look as strong

Maybe it’s just me

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

I mean T1’s core minus Donghak beat foscobs

Falcons

[static turret]

We are getting close to a Winston meta

They nerf hazard again I think we could see a Winston meta

Or a dive meta in general

[mortal cipher]

Probably

[stoic juniper]

@robust patio https://x.com/forestwithout/status/1883246645506396482?s=46&t=5CxzpuHG0lyVrF2529pXBg

forest (@forestwithout) on X

How the hell this team communicating

X · Jan 25, 2025, 8:12 PM

[mortal cipher]

they did suprisingly well against Cloud 9

even tho it was a 2-0 but to be fair
their support was playing remote

[torn portal]

https://x.com/thjgby/status/1883550943029109050?s=46

A B (@thjgby) on X

Blizzard deleting every contenders VOD from before 2024 🤠👍

X · Jan 26, 2025, 4:21 PM

[hybrid hollow]

Wait wtf

Did they delete American tornado vs revival?????

Why are we deleting the peak of na

[mortal cipher]

probably maybe they are makings new tier 2 so deleting the old stuff

[bitter marlin]

ow league cant have failed if there was no ow league

[cosmic socket]

why tho

[weary scarab]

Blizzard devs are liberals

[mortal cipher]

lol

[mortal cipher]

aye lol

[wet bay]

Yeah been lots more DVA Winston than expected

That doom was fire also

I wasn't expecting to see any Ram that was kind of weird

[robust patio]

LOL

[robust patio]

prob english lel

[mortal cipher]

prob because SA know english so

[static turret]

Peak na is td vs ntmr these days

5 days until na starts tho

Ssg vs ntmr should be fire

[bleak yoke]

Wait did t1 beat my glorious zeta, I lowk fell asleep and forgot about the match

[wise orbit]

zeta won

[bleak yoke]

Wait actually

🙏

[wise orbit]

yes

it was a good game you should watch it

[torn portal]

ok

[torn portal]

https://x.com/ultraviolet_ow/status/1883622859056230454?s=46

ultraviolet (@ultraviolet_ow) on X

X · Jan 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

can we

not

viol2t

[wise orbit]

Haha

I wonder what possessed him to do that

[late saddle]

Utter woke nonsense

[torn portal]

donghak my idol i swear

please keep going doom

[mortal cipher]

Donghak Revenge arc from Atlanta

[torn portal]

he did p good last season too

fnatic just fell apart by the end it was gg

he was the last life of that team along with knife

[static turret]

Their support lineup was turbo ass

LeeJaeFeed and unYaki

[hybrid hollow]

Donghak I was not familiar with the game

Will say tho that kings row was very streaky (typical dongman)

he's either making the best play ever or feeding it's great

[glass sleet]

You’re talking about him going over the rooftops?

At the end?

He didn’t cost them the fight. The enemy team were gonna win with their ultimates advantage so he had to go for something different instead of staying main and getting ulted at. Unfortunately it didn’t work out but it was a good idea.

[glass sleet]

FTG vs CR was a banger and Zeta bs T1 was also a banger

[bleak yoke]

I watched most of it, up until like the end of the 3rd map

then I fell asleep

because I was super tired

I'll watch the rest of it later probably

[glass sleet]

Very close games

[weak frost]

ftg if vindaim wasn't a gold 3 lucio

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

replace him with fdgod and they win vs cr

[robust patio]

💀

[glass sleet]

Vortex just so much better

I thought drops were supposed to be today?

[sullen berry]

OW Esports Japan be like https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNY5U8P88pH_1oAtyoG94lAfFWINXbGuP?si=-B8xpL8UZXRpKuH9

also I've been watching on the side, not tnrough time to care about the matches going on even if it's Aplomb Tiger whooping Insomnia's ass today

and Varrel trying too hard to make up for being eliminated last year and not making it to Asia Stage 2

[hybrid hollow]

No the whole map

That play was whatever he had to try something

But other than that he's actually looked solid

[glass sleet]

Yeah but you said the whole map. He was inconsistent on king’s row?

[hybrid hollow]

not necessarily inconsistent but there were pretty clear mistakes but even then they weren't totally his fault

It's just funny watching bro whiff a punch then ajax viol2t next fight

[wise orbit]

oh japan regular season started?

[hybrid hollow]

Will say weakest link on t1 is not donghak

[wise orbit]

donghak is a good main tank no?

surely opener is the weakest link

I should watch a t1 game

[hybrid hollow]

idk haven't seen him on Winston enough recently

Last time I watched his Winston he was getting gapped by Infekted

His ram and hazard are solid tho

And ofc the doom

[glass sleet]

Yeah I guess that comes with playing hazard cuz even bernar was making mistakes like feeding a little

[glass sleet]

Tbh I think the team as a whole was very good. Even opener was good.

[deft marlin]

Will all the talk about TU underperforming in scrims, if it is true, are we even sure that Twilight is good enough to make a difference in that

Quartz made it seem like they were getting rolled

It’s be different if they kept losing but it was super close every game

There’s a possibility quartz is over exaggerating tho

[static turret]

Twilight is old

And quartz hard diffs the entirety of eu

TU on paper is a good team

I guess they’re having internal issues tho

Team chemistry might not be there

[wise orbit]

ksg ballin all over the place

shades of junbin

[mortal cipher]

Japanese Junbin

But ksg was balling before Junbin was in all honesty

[mortal cipher]

If they didn’t replace the backline maybe if they had the backline at the start it would’ve done better

[mortal cipher]

If that unfortunate Ajax didn’t happen in the midst of the fight T1 would’ve won

I say they might get top 3

[static pond]

Hey y’all I won’t be doing discord as much I’m try to take a break due to emotional issues

[serene basin]

You do discord?

[wise orbit]

its ok you've worked hard u deserve a break from chatting

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah only bad play I remember from opener was using rally down 3

But even then they somehow killed 2

unfortunately fight was already lost

[glass sleet]

Yeah

Everyone makes mistakes

[hybrid hollow]

Twilight is old unfortunately then Kai and Kev are regressing by the day

It could just be quartz being quartz tho

[torn portal]

viol2t unironically looks just as weak lol

opener locks in and T1 is peak

[hybrid hollow]

Bro jumped into the backline for a nade

Actually why is that guy ever on ana

That's like the one hero he's always been shit on

[torn portal]

his nades were clean beyond that fight

[torn portal]

he’s too used to kiri

[hybrid hollow]

I needa see his ana against a better team

[torn portal]

i need to see t1 vs falcons or raccoons

[mortal cipher]

The core beat falcons before

But that’s why twilight was always the Ana because Violet refused to

[deft marlin]

He literally won POTM…

[hybrid hollow]

Man who is still looking at supers liquipedia 😭

Shit ain't changing no time soon

Also majed over hanbin

Well hanbin is no where to be found actually

[static turret]

The fact that he was top 3 in 2023 still being retired is crazy

Pge number one just to see nothing but Ls Is insane

[mortal cipher]

Super in the 13th is Crazy

And the fact that you still have some owl teams still looked at is cool

[static turret]

Tm going up 17 spots

Damn

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

Didn’t think they’d be one

[static turret]

They been cooking

I heard tu is ass tho

Tm diffing them every time

[cosmic socket]

new tm is cooking?

[static turret]

Apparently

Quartz said they beat tu Everytime

[mortal cipher]

Remember don’t take stocks into the scrim bucks they usually always fail

[static turret]

Yea it comes down to the actual matches

[glass sleet]

We gonna have good games on the 31st

[mortal cipher]

They be getting rolled in scrims but it might the opposite in the actual matches

[glass sleet]

Love to hear it

[mortal cipher]

They’re probably top 4 at least

[glass sleet]

TU is a very mixed team. Give them time

And they have Kai so ofc it’s hard

Jk

No hate

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[glass sleet]

What are these? “Most visited”? What does that mean?

[hybrid hollow]

All hate

[hybrid hollow]

Their liquipedia pages

[glass sleet]

Remember when Quartz one shots him, then goes to spawn and one shots him again in stage one?

[glass sleet]

Oh

[hybrid hollow]

Avg goat activity

[glass sleet]

It was really funny

Dude said “you aren’t allowed to leave spawn”

Btw did anyone watch Japan? How did Edison do?

[mortal cipher]

Which team was Edison on???

[deft marlin]

Didn’t even know Edison was on a Japanese team

[mortal cipher]

Yep

[deft marlin]

John Sojourn himself

[static turret]

Nah you know it’s true

[glass sleet]

Vortexwolf

With kalios

[glass sleet]

I’m trying to be nice

Geng v VP
SSG v NTMR
the games I’m interested in for Friday.

Saturday only EMEA looking interesting

Sunday
TU v VP
SSG v TL

[cosmic socket]

ssg vs liquid...

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[mortal cipher]

Did they play today ???

[glass sleet]

Yeah

[torn portal]

did he deserve it tho

[balmy wolf]

Hi

[wet bay]

So how does map selection even work

Cause I thought hybrid and flash were the same pool

But we got numbani and suravasa in the same series

At least clash got removed, no one was playing it but that shit is ass

Also what is the deal with the Asia format having that last change quali thing

Not gonna complain about more games but it just seems odd, why not just send the top 6 regular season teams instead of top 4 and then doing a separate tournament for the other 4

[robust patio]

cus the top 6 teams would dominate lel

[static turret]

Liquid 3-0

[mortal cipher]

did they win

[mortal cipher]

personally i thought Peli deserved it more because Peli on genji was the sole Reason Zeta even won the game

[torn portal]

true

and the echo was phenomenal on kings row

[wet bay]

I'm talking about the Asia lan

The top 4 from Korea auto qualify

The bottom team goes to a relegation match, then the other 4 play their own last chance tourney

Then the top 2 from the last chance tourney go to LAN

Actually it's to the regional playoffs

Then the top 4 from that qualify to the lan

It just seems odd, why not just send top 6 regular season straight to regional playoffs or send top 4 straight to Asia LAN instead

But we get more ow so it's cool just weird

[robust patio]

to get more viewers yea

thats prob explanable then

[wet bay]

Makes the regular season feel more pointless though

You could come 8th and still qualify to the LAN even though that is incredibly unlikely

[glass sleet]

Idk

I didn’t watch anything after round 1

[robust patio]

gotta give more benefit to korea

[wet bay]

Wym

[robust patio]

gotta give chance for losers bracket again who didnt qualify in asia

[mortal cipher]

i only watched the last game

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/OW_Esports/status/1884003602055979472?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Overwatch Esports (@OW_Esports) on X

The Stage 1 Map Pool kicks into action when our first matches in NA and EMEA kick off Friday at 10am PT!

What are your picks and bans for each mode? 🗺️

X · Jan 27, 2025, 10:20 PM

na/emea stage 1 map pool reveal

[weary scarab]

No way no ilios

Only banger map is lijang

[hybrid hollow]

Holy shit this is one of the worst map pools I've laid my eyes on

Dorado, lijiang and Esperanca is carrying

[balmy wolf]

The map pool is kinda boring tbh

Tf is this shit?

[torn portal]

no NJC or NQS

that’s all

[hybrid hollow]

Nubani, blizz world, Havana, and route in one pool is disgusting

[torn portal]

route isn’t terrible

it’s alright

[torn portal]

@static turret @hybrid hollow leaked scrim of timeless vs liquid and timeless won

[static turret]

erm

[torn portal]

it wasn’t even two unlucky maps timeless seemed decently in control

through the map

[static turret]

what the flip

losing to lukemino

in 2025

insane

[torn portal]

lukemino unironically

gapped the fuck out of vega

[static turret]

typical

vega is so ass

[torn portal]

lukefish was putting in work in the backline actually finding picks

[static turret]

we need lucio bans

[torn portal]

vega was first picked

lukefish is no longer the bait but the one with the rod

oh

lukemino did ajax the one submap timeless lost tho

because this is north america

[hybrid hollow]

I seen

Liquid was also playing weird shit

Which makes sense

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/deku-my-hero-academia-this-cannot-be-cringe-gif-11866754494171397574

they were meant to save na...

[torn portal]

scrims don’t matter actually…

[wet bay]

Fuck NA

Saudi on tob

The actual peak team is FTG tho

FTG will beat Zeta this weekend trust

[mortal cipher]

dont trust the scrims

[glass sleet]

TU was losing to mid teams in scrims

And TL losing to TML

[robust patio]

rupal with that korean acc sheesh

[untold ember]

anyone watching the Japan games tonight?

[sullen berry]

Not ebola to take a scrim to heart, remember how Wekeed was really good at scrims

Same with S-Tier scrim lord gido in 2018

[sullen berry]

I am but not for very long. Games might still be going when I wake up.

[untold ember]

i feel like we'll have some quick games tonight with Nyam and Vortexwolf playing

[robust patio]

nah

[sullen berry]

https://www.youtube.com/live/NtflUlvGX9U?si=p7hFviIxpLwXu0OR
You know what, save yourself the hassle:

Preds be like 3-0 the right side team

Nyam Gaming, LAZULI and VortexWolf might be the closest match

Hayabusa still disappoint me even with Elva on dps

[untold ember]

Some of these new teams could put up a fight, Aplomb Tiger 3-0d Insomnia yesterday

[sullen berry]

I don't expect anything from a team with the name cat in their name. That's not to say they are bad, but they'll be better than Telomere without even trying

Respectable bans

[untold ember]

i have this spreadsheet to track all the bans and thge meta from throughout the stage: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hduf3Wq8ct_Fw9Ndq-p8uF2l29KKG0l_rpcxRSl0oj8/edit?usp=sharing

[wise orbit]

Why are people acting like scrims mean anything

[sullen berry]

Because that's all they have to hold on to

You can look at a scrim and if a highly rated team is losing to a bottom ranked team

Suddenly you would have to reconsider whose trying harder in practice

[glass sleet]

OWCS Japan

Drops are on

[glass sleet]

I mean they’re scrims

They mean scrims

[glass sleet]

Vortex bout to play

[wise orbit]

yeah and scrims mean next to nothing

[glass sleet]

No, nothing means nothing.

Scrims mean scrims

They’re two completely different things

[wise orbit]

?

[glass sleet]

You ok?

[wise orbit]

Idk what u are getting at. Basically what I’m saying is that scrims are very unreliable in determining how a team will actually perform

[hybrid hollow]

^^

Just watching the scrim you could tell liquid were trying different comps as well

I wouldn't say they mean nothing bc it gives us insight on what teams are trying for the current meta

But actually winning and losing scrims doesn't matter

[weak frost]

I mean obviously if a good team is scrimming a bad team the bad team will try hard if they take competing seriously

while there isn't much the better team can learn from playing their usual comps and shitting on the worse team

[mortal cipher]

Only zephyr the scrim god

[mortal cipher]

Did they win ???

[glass sleet]

I think they did 3-0

[mortal cipher]

Niceu

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/kumala-paris-kumala-la-kumalala-kumalala-kumala-savesta-lightskin-stare-gif-27518641

[torn portal]

https://x.com/obssojourn/status/1884147757696565309?s=46 swear this guy plays overwatch just as naturally as he breaths air

Chantal | ObsSojourn (@ObsSojourn) on X

DISGUSTING 5K from LIP to win them the point 🔥

X · Jan 28, 2025, 7:53 AM

[hybrid hollow]

I did this yesterday but I forgot to clip it man smh

[static turret]

Kellen is coming to na

🔥🔥

He won’t be on ping

[weak frost]

honestly if I saw a tracer like this in a GM lobby I'd just report them LMAO

like I'd just assume it's a plat tracer with aimbot with those blinks and the pulse 💔

[viscid hatch]

Lip tracer is S tier

[modern dragon]

Don’t disgrace the goats name😭🙏

(Yes I am glazing)

[sullen berry]

How dare you blapsphemise the scrim god Xepher's name in vain /s

https://tenor.com/view/flag-merch-seoul-dynasty-overwatch-e-sports-gif-14568812

[torn portal]

ok the pulse killed and also if you rewatch it

it very nearly hit

[weak frost]

I'm not I'm just saying how weird it looks when someone who isn't a tracer player plays good tracer😭

[sullen berry]

Japan is now live icymi

Hey so are drops working?

Because they're up now

[glass sleet]

I heard they’re not gonna always be in NA. They’ll be on ping for some of the time

[glass sleet]

Dude has a mid tracer but his insane tracking carries

[viscid hatch]

His tracer is elite trust

[glass sleet]

Trust? I’ve seen him play tracer. He’s not at the level of the elite tracers but his aim is the real superstar

[viscid hatch]

He’s just outside the elite 4

[sage granite]

yes now

[sage granite]

thank you for asking

[robust patio]

bro is calling lip tracer mid

https://tenor.com/view/peashooter-pvz-plants-vs-zombies-plants-zombies-gif-6998445874810870689

[wise orbit]

hs player on tracer coming through ♿️

[modern dragon]

Yeah I’m jk with you 😂

[rugged quest]

https://x.com/esports_ROC/status/1884579928428937415

ROC (@esports_ROC) on X

✍🏻 | يسرنا الاعلان عن انتقال روك لإستكمال المنافسه للعبة اوفرواتش في الصين! 🇨🇳🇸🇦

روستر اوفرواتش لعام 2025 🦅🌎

| 🛡️ @OW_Belosrea
| ⚔️ @owDiyaa
| ⚔️ @ChoiSehwan_ow
| 💉 @molly_ow83048
| 💉 @Lengsa_
| 🧠 @NorthOW1
| 🧠 @KarivOW
| 🧠 @JeungMac_ow
| 💼 @Lotsha17
| 💼

X · Jan 29, 2025, 12:30 PM

ROC moving to china with a pretty good roster

[hybrid hollow]

They got who on main support?

[hybrid hollow]

It highkey is he's just lip

If ur just mechanically better than everyone you can get away with it

[mortal cipher]

I was contemplating him

[mortal cipher]

Diya bless

[mortal cipher]

Lengsa Molly

[rugged quest]

He meant the lengsa allegations

[robust patio]

another good roster with saudi money

[robust patio]

basically a korean team

[mortal cipher]

Idk what that is???

[mortal cipher]

Only Choi aid belo is Korean tho

[rugged quest]

Sexual harrassment allegations

tried to force a girl drunk

'why he got kicked from OA

[robust patio]

choi itself has korean aura

[torn portal]

I mean

okay?

[torn portal]

he got too much playtime on pf when jaehim is on the team

choi is decent

[mortal cipher]

Well he is Korean lol

[mortal cipher]

Was it under age or just tried to het her drunk ???

[mortal cipher]

I do remember hearing that

[rugged quest]

Not pedo stuff

[mortal cipher]

So just forcing someone ti get drunk
???

[rugged quest]

yep an audio leaked of him forcing a female fan to get drunk

and he got in hot water for it

[mortal cipher]

Ah I see

[mortal cipher]

Honestly understandable why

[candid cradle]

do you guys know if rapid trigger is allowed in overwatch? Such as the Wooting 60HE. Or any other snap tap keyboard?

I know games like CS banned it

[weak frost]

yea its fine

[candid cradle]

thank you

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[weary scarab]

what if they put togheter all of the regions again so i dont have to wait half a year for globals

[mortal cipher]

Wo I’ll f probably end the same way owl did eventually

[sullen berry]

I looked at those and it's fine.

They haven't said anything official but I would do so at your own risk in the event their stance is known later down the line

I doubt they have any interest there when ximming in general is a bigger issue with console and Esports is more concerned about malicious third party software.

[static turret]

Kellan will infact be on ping for the most part

Gg

Apparently kellan was a top pick

[balmy wolf]

I played 1 game at collegiate level today :)))

actually so happy icl

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/AnticOdium/status/1884515627370745900?t=1j1v2pXIMT5uNmaHIYlZHA&s=19

Antic x Odium (@AnticOdium) on X

You know we bought the seed, now here is the team we are dropping into that slot!! Welcome to the new AXO Overwatch Team!!🔥🥇
@HavanahALT
@lumi__ow
@OLAMxo
@Netra_ow
@rrevzi
@seqtar
@jaelunnn

Show your support for the #AXOOW roster when they jump into the lobby later

X · Jan 29, 2025, 8:15 AM

[static turret]

Idk who any of them are ngl

[mortal cipher]

Me neither

[hybrid hollow]

I only know olam

Idek how but the name is definitely familiar

[torn portal]

https://x.com/onceagainow/status/1884727514502660569?s=46

Once Again Esports (@OnceAgainOW) on X

On the first day of the new year, Once Again wishes you a happy and prosperous Year of the Snake! 🥳🐍

X · Jan 29, 2025, 10:17 PM

[stuck galleon]

shus Ana or fielders Ana who's better

[cosmic socket]

shus

[modern dragon]

shu

[viscid hatch]

Prolly that shu guy

The only time he got beat by fielder was when he had lip sombra

[robust patio]

s h u

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/OW_Esports_Asia/status/1884818944646852870?t=kj93RuTsXJ4PwAPdaeeDMw&s=19

Overwatch Esports Asia (@OW_Esports_Asia) on X

🔥 2025 Overwatch Champions Series: Pacific kicks off today! 🔥

📅 2025 Stage 1 - Round Robin Day 1
🕕 All times in ICT

🔹 AXO 🆚 Trap 12 (18:00)
🔹 Meng Gong 2 🆚 MFC (19:30)
🔹 Fade Altair 🆚 Monstargear Gaming (21:00)
🔹 99DIVINE 🆚 Full House (22:30)

🔴Watch live:

X · Jan 30, 2025, 4:20 AM

P A C I F I C

[mortal cipher]

ooh

[sullen berry]

why isn't ssg signing commanderx back to the roster?
SSG: because we're an NA roster
Also SSG:
https://x.com/Spacestation/status/1884360914130067609?t=lYrbdDelPoaUMUCMF-ESqg&s=19

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation) on X

he sees all. he knows all. he’s balder than all.
🧠 WELCOME @CommanderX TO SSG 🧠

X · Jan 28, 2025, 10:00 PM

Zero surprises as a content creator slash costreamer slash hair loss speedrunner CommanderX

@hot onyx

[sullen berry]

Look at how far we come from 2 weeks without an official pacific broadcast - I hope y'all are watching this

[robust patio]

real

[sullen berry]

Even Korean fans give a fuck about regions outside of KR and it's not because WhoRU was in the region last year

[sullen berry]

can you tell that the Thai broadcast originally prepared to stream just for Playoffs a month ago and was told less than 2 weeks to start streaming a month early

[sullen berry]

well, no one saw this coming - first match goes 2-2, match point with sensible hero bans

australians on a 2-0 about to get reverse swept

[wispy yacht]

i mean aren't both teams basically oce tho

holy fuck i love trap 12

[sullen berry]

3 hours of runtime

[wispy yacht]

LOL

[sullen berry]

maybe 2 hours of solid pacific gaming right there

I better see them both in playoffs sheesh

[wispy yacht]

3 hours in and we just finished the first match that's so sick

[sullen berry]

Pacific in a nutshell LMAO

now we've got streamer team up

Frogger is playing

I repeat

FROGGER IS NOT ON SUPPORT TANK

[sullen berry]

revzi is tired af - it's nearly 3am where he is

and it actually showed after that 2-0

[wispy yacht]

yea i have no idea why they decided to make the games so late

[sullen berry]

not that hard to guess why

[wispy yacht]

7pm singapore time is insane

[sullen berry]

it's a thai broadcast but WDG determines whats the best time for all regions on average

[wispy yacht]

yea maybe wdg should lock tf in

[sullen berry]

Singapore/Asia in general seems to be the best fit and would guarantee OCE have a bad time if they do a lower run bracket in playoffs

[wispy yacht]

romani deciding to blow up his hand is so 😭

[weary scarab]

EU stage 1 tier list

left in vec by accident

[robust patio]

💀

[robust patio]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-the-rock-you-sure-gif-24604462

[weary scarab]

yes

only one im unsure of

is maybe

bring vp to a tier

[robust patio]

meh idk well see

idc about emea

they are all f tier against cr

[weary scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[balmy wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMMRgzS6gCg

[static turret]

Owcs is most successful thing to come out of ow2

Unironically

At first it was meant as a casual esport meant for everyone

But seeing as it has actually attracted some popularity they decided to throw money into it and now we have big orgs which means fans that watch these orgs are coming over and players are starting to watch more owcs

[hybrid hollow]

All this yap for na to be a snoozefest

[static turret]

Chill we got 2 good teams

And anyone that likes ow esports isn’t watching for the toilet bowl region

We watching for kr and eu who have more than 3 good teams

[torn portal]

3

[static turret]

Ntmr is good for na

Not anywhere else

[torn portal]

if lethal finally gives a fuck this year it’s lowkey winnable against eu team. The backline is great, zeruhh is a beast, and the only other question is tank

[cosmic socket]

ntmr gets 3-0d by vec

[static turret]

Vec is crazy

[torn portal]

sadly substitutes go in before hero bans so it’ll be hard to fully play off clear and cuffa

[balmy wolf]

😔 https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/HaeJeokDan

[static turret]

HJ mid

They did good in soop tho

[torn portal]

NTMR go map five with FTG on a good day

[balmy wolf]

ye i saw them in soop and they looked good

[static turret]

?

[cosmic socket]

?

[torn portal]

again if lethal actually tries then dps is close in skill + backline gap :CAUGHT:

lethal is like sparkr level

idk

[static turret]

Idk if I’d say close in skill

Heesang gaps astronomically

[torn portal]

who u taking zeruhh or seonjun

[static turret]

Vigilante is cool

[torn portal]

I mean

Yea

[static turret]

Vindaim is ass

[static turret]

I mean ftg are playing like a top 3 team rn

[torn portal]

UV > vigilante i’ll die on that and while typing this i think vindaim ajax’d again

[torn portal]

It’s a tank gap season

Prophet is a god tho dps actually wouldn’t be very close

[static turret]

Ftg spank that 3-1

We got ftg vs zeta actually

We@will see after this

[torn portal]

tyre

[static turret]

If they take zeta to 5 then ftg are just

Good

[torn portal]

i’ll be the na cope chatter for this season

[static turret]

Liquid> zeta

Ima say it

[torn portal]

don’t get too loud

casores coaching will level up the roster

[static turret]

Not even loud

[torn portal]

it’ll be crazy

[static turret]

Td=zeta

Even tho td beat them but the kr copers will never say td was begged

Better

And this is just me but infekted isn’t even that much worse than someone

[torn portal]

infekted is someone on a good day + knife tr33 is possibly better than merit lenny if they reach their potential + same backline

[static turret]

Infekted played better than someone the entirety of stage 4

[torn portal]

Unironically

[static turret]

Knife was doing wonders in kr vs every team

He was a bright spot on fnatic

The coaches in na said tr33 is right behind Lenny

And we all know Lenny is legit a top 5 flex dps rn

[cosmic socket]

what are we saying right now

[static turret]

?

[torn portal]

infekted when that 1% korean gene kicks in

[static turret]

Liquid can compete with kr teams

No glaze

[torn portal]

liquid could go maple five minimum

w zeta

[static turret]

Not cr

[cosmic socket]

or falcons

or zeta

imo

[torn portal]

na believers rise

[static turret]

Falcons are looking weaker atm

[torn portal]

well see in china

[static turret]

This liquid team isn’t much worse than td besides Lenny

They have the same backline

Infekted is a super flexible tank

Basically na someone

And we have na proper

And knife

Just a budget Korean team

[cosmic socket]

i wanna be a liquid believer too but saying liquid > zeta is just insanity

[static turret]

I’m biased

[cosmic socket]

please keep the ragebating in #overwatch-serious

[static turret]

Liquid=zeta

I’m not saying zeta is better

I can’t

Maybe one day zeta will make another lan tho

It’s actually very possible this year

[cosmic socket]

i can see zeta going to a lan

falcons in a slump rn

[static turret]

No Smurf

And no op coach lineup

[wise orbit]

No winston player is kinda gg

unless you can work around it with hero bans ig

[torn portal]

this why i’m also a gen.g believer

crusty is brazy

[sullen berry]

we'll probably see this getting aired during intermissions

so in the interest of sticking around for a stream live, I'll watch it if it doesn't show up on broadcast

[sullen berry]

me when the 1% korean bloodline never happens and it's just channeling his own reiner level gameplay against the world

https://tenor.com/view/rrqph-esport-esports-teamrrq-rrq-gif-25652612

[hybrid hollow]

Crusty? Buddy got carried by junkbuck

Geng fueling the fraud coaching allegations even more

[torn portal]

checking reiner’s page and wtf i don’t remember him winning that much

idk how

[glass sleet]

Do we have games on Thursday?

[glass sleet]

Did he?

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah

[glass sleet]

So AQ should win?

[hybrid hollow]

Trust me I was in the coaching room

[hybrid hollow]

Nah weaker players unfortunately

Actually

Who's on tht team again

[glass sleet]

Dude idk

[glass sleet]

Tred, ziyad, lbbd7, QLM, checkmate, haku, Landon.

But I think ziyad is really just for eleague

[hybrid hollow]

They could make a lan with the roster idk if they'll win anything tho

[glass sleet]

Yeah idk either. TM apparently is the best team in eu in scrims not losing once. Maybe AQ can beat the other teams since they’re losing to weaker teams

[hybrid hollow]

They definitely don't win stage one unless haku is secretly the best msupp ever and lil bro 7 evolved and can play more heros

[glass sleet]

You didn’t know? Bro was cooking on soj

Lbbd7 was brought in to play HS lol

Lbbd7 was diffing Kai

[hybrid hollow]

Bro was hiding the hitscan until he escaped youbi

That's actually hilarious 😭

[glass sleet]

Bro was one tricking so they get rid of him

Checkmate asked for Landon to join and they thought “hey we need a HS player, let’s get lbbd7.”

[hybrid hollow]

I want checkmate to prove me wrong this season

with hero bans his potential is kinda crazy tho

[glass sleet]

He looked good. Had better plays on genji than kev

[glass sleet]

He plays so many heroes

Mei, pharah, genji, echo, and tracer

[hybrid hollow]

Kinda sad to know hawk and scissors will never play

[glass sleet]

99% chance they don’t

[hybrid hollow]

Maybe they get contacts next stage and they can get some time

[glass sleet]

hawk doesn’t wanna play anyway

[glass sleet]

Hawk is focusing on uni

[hybrid hollow]

Does scissors want to play

[glass sleet]

I think so. Not sure.

[hybrid hollow]

He lowkey wants the free trips with the bros

[glass sleet]

Unter said awhile ago he’s not a degenerate and the kid has school

[torn portal]

lbbd as a hitscan was impressive in qualifiers, checkmate is solid, and the backline is relatively strong

Especially if you want to compete in saudi e league

[glass sleet]

Ngl with all the problems SSG has, I think the first game between TL and SSG gonna be a roll

[glass sleet]

I guess haku is their weakest link

And I don’t think the other Saudis gonna play

[hybrid hollow]

wait does na only have 2 lan spots as well?

[glass sleet]

Yes

[torn portal]

scissors is on the team mainly cus in scrims he would fill for lenny while he was in japan

[hybrid hollow]

gg we got the Korea treatment

[glass sleet]

Everyone is 2 slots now so yeah

[torn portal]

lenny got back this week LOL scissors has been scrimming with other teams on ssg the entire time he was gone

[glass sleet]

Yeah Lenny has no clue what’s going on. He just got here

[hybrid hollow]

In Japan with pge while scissors is filling in unpaid scrim time

[torn portal]

Also he didn’t get a team so he is playing as an emergency sub along with hawk

[hybrid hollow]

don't worry guys I'll make an org next stage and give na 3 spots

[torn portal]

They could be signed if not for budget restraints according to unter. Entirely possible in the future

[glass sleet]

Ntmr was gonna be the third partner org

Imagine

But blizz thought zeta is better option

[torn portal]

the commanderx interviews are so interesting

[hybrid hollow]

Fuck those guys we bringing in koncrete epsorts

[glass sleet]

Who’s on the team

[torn portal]

It was literally down to ntmr or zeta at the last minute and blizzard just didn’t go for ntmr? Really disappointing but oh well

[hybrid hollow]

Jonbun, Pip, Leesung, Sho, Churro

fresh from the Korean labs

[torn portal]

Someone on tank
Me on fdps
PGE on hitscan
Architect on flex support
Ajax on main support

third partner team

[hybrid hollow]

We got who on flex dps?

[torn portal]

shesang

[static turret]

Lowkey

Nah nvm

[glass sleet]

Lol. Copies of the real deal

[hybrid hollow]

And why is the 3rd point eich guy on flex support

Keep bro on bastion

[torn portal]

?

[glass sleet]

No merit?

[torn portal]

This is NA

only two important

[static turret]

This is an actual team they’re just 12 rn they can’t compete

We got some na tmmr

Toilet bowl region