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the washed match
That’s the name
erm.. checkmate I think
How? TU took their ms lol
i think saudi calvary posted their rosters today or yesterday
when they played tu
lbbd7
Lbb the goat
Lbb is highkey the flex demon
Checkmate, pharah otp, landon
Tank dps and support
Checkmate, Landon, ziyad, tred, lbbd7, QLM, and haku.
TU(washed emea players) vs old ocean (washed asia players
also im assuming most of you are from emea ?
Ryujehong retired yet?
ziyad tred qlm and haku carries that team high key
Or is he pushing 40 playing ow still
Why would I be from the fraud region
They won somehow
idk lotta emea talk in here
im from the other fraud region (na)
I love pp is nasty on the Juno
Haku ajaxed. Checkmate was carrying on genji and lbbd7 was diffing Kai. So you’re objectively wrong lol
na can't be fraudulent we have Lenny and pge
yea im just joking
That's what they want u to think
never heard of ziyad and qlm
I just named all their mid players
grass is green?
pge is fraud unfortunately but we have tr33 and zeruhh too
Gg
Damn.
Depends on the season
Pge might be the most inconsistent player of 2024
LO
Or how dead the grass is
shoutout lb stage 4 shock vs defiant
pge in the last 5s of the game while he's 15-38 is nasty tho
Heesang special
literally hits the two nastiest widow shots to open and then just doesn't do shit all game
THANK YOU HEESANG
TYHS TYHS
Why does tree look more Asian than normal today
Idk how AQ got Landon and checkmate. I think they told Landon “yo bro we play in emea wanna come?” And Landon said hell yeah
average 2025 eu roster
Shitbutt34
abdullah7
Lip
skxZ8
Shu
fgbb8
Dude doesn’t play in na
is geng the strongest emea team atm?
Wtf is that lol
what's the geng roster rn
Eu rosters
I get the joke but holy
That was funny!
We know thts ur alt bro
He’s Asian?
Send bro to T1

He’s in the wrong region
dont know
there were jokes about him going to t1
but im sure they will be strong
Oh
but he's not
Guess their coach
who
Crusty
because someone is playing for t1 and tr33 said he's playing with bernar
yea geng will dominate emea
Easy
coach aura goes wild
tvnt
Tvnt
Haku, yzn(unfortunately), roho, teenage, tvnt
damn i cant name any lel
saudi players that have hands*
You made these up
Roho and teenage might be the same person ngl no idea
TVNT, m7md, QLM, Ziyad, madara, korz, and that other guy.
i know know quartz ksaa majed others are randoms
"that other guy"
why do saudi players use so many acronym ass usernames
😭
Roho IS teenage
Cheating
because of the way arabic writing works i think
Close enough
You could name off some random shit and I’d believe you
Wdym
You never heard of rizzkid58???
m7md as an example
example
I think m7md was made up
i think is what he means
not words but like. letters
There is 3 different ksaa in owl history
together
Isn't it bc their alphabet doesn't translate directly
That’s a name. It’s supposed to be Mohammed
TVNT is the only one
qlm?
I think that’s supposed to “Pen”
what even is yznsa acronym
In Arabic
that just looks like Nicos Leet-ified
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's just English not having a proper translation
YZN (his name) SA Saudi Arabia
Yazan Saudi Arabia
o
that would make sense yeah
We say Q L M but I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be pronounced together
yea i dont know more sa players now
the thing is not having vowels confuses people not using arabic script
sa dont have that much skilled players
so they look like acronyms
I mean Arabic and English are so different so makes sense right?
oh it 100% does
ngl i barely pay attention to anything outside of na (literally started following ow esports during stage 4)
that's why lbbd has a 7 in his name
i only focus on asia
wtf is that
pro gamer evan
Pgedward
😎
I guess it woulve been LBBDH instead
where u from btw d9bi
cus i have never seen na or emea region team winning a SINGLE champion lol
honestly
how do yall pronounce lbbd
other than whatever the fuck happen in world cup that one year
lab-dah
Originally or currently or where I’m going or where I’m coming from?
thats how majed says it
yeah sum like tht
okay i got it right then
I prefer lil bro 7
lol idk currently ig

Lol yeah
Lil bro 7
Avast started that, right?
During OWWC
Probably avast starts everything
the only sa player i respect is quartz the rest are mid in my opinion
💀
this is true there's such talent in na but asia sweeps
he didn't know and honestly neither did i
Seoul
or probably most of na
u r in seoul??
how is it im curious
would be nice to be in a place that has a . better infrastructure for esports
yes
Guys I’m kidding. I’m American from the land of the free 🦅
I AM FROM ENGLAND AMEERICA
I wish. My gf trying to get me to move to Japan tho.
jpn esports also looking pretty good right now
especially for overwatch apparently
You know who’s looking pretty good in esports? Saudi Arabia
big boss pine with Ans
idk they have big orgs and stuff but the players are pretty shit
imma go watch asia owcs live LAN
that's true unfortunately i am queer so. that's not happening i don't think
I think japan has big potential tho
fuck i can't react to anything
they only have good infra but less good players
is cr mostly korean rn
yes
ahhh
oh damn
same for zeta and falcon(99.9 korean)
Yeah all the big japanese orgs have korean rosters I think
When pine droppin the next Roblox montage
is varrel a big org?
its a big org in japan i heard
Maybe in other games
hes a working at a bank lol
I’m pretty sure many gay people been to KSA and enjoyed their time
its weird how many japanese orgs have invested in ow actually
If they can’t win tournaments, hosting events is second best lol
twas unaware
i am pretty uninformed on ksa politics lowkey
i got japanese owl players on my mouse pad too
there's also the whole situations of like. a bunch of na talent (casters and players) being scared to go to ewc or whatever
If we’re being honest. There’s what people see on the news or hear what others tell them and there are people who been to KSA. Their opinions never match
honestly the only guy I remember opting out of ewc is masaa
The great thing is all the players, casters, talent, staff and anyone involved in EWC that went last year said they had an amazing time.
feel like that's almost true for like. any region really
At least for overwatch section
Others were virtue signaling
but idk politics are weird and scare me and i already worry about being hate crimed enough (living in idaho)
I get the concerns about saudi tho, sportswashing is cringe
sportswashing ?
Yeah. I saw a reel of that one guy that pretends to be flags of other countries and talks about what’s going on with them currently and he had one of KSA and he said how tourism in KSA more than doubled lately
what is that
Ngl Saudis might be more chill than Americans
basically hiding the downsides of your country to the world for the sake of holding sports events
We Americans kinda wild
"Sportswashing is a term used to describe the practice of nations, individuals, groups, corporations, or the government using sports to improve reputations tarnished by wrongdoing. "
oh. well yeah that would make sense
Sounds like USA…
LMAO ^^
And UK
wait what do you mean
except sports are like. not what we're known for globally
people don't come from germany to watch a vikings game
Basketball
People come to watch the lakers
MAN
SPEAKING OF
WHY MY BRONCOS SO ASS BRO
😭
@glass sleet wait can you elaborate
ykw im an eagles fan and i can just never tell if that team is doing good or not
how have any of those places been sportswashing
Well what I mean by ass is…you know, playing badly.
Not actual ass
definitely don't think FRANCE of all places would be sportwashing
Cmon USA is a shit country with a shit government.
Erm
Tbh
Their shit league should drop from top5
i thought france was tourismpilled
They only have PSG
LOL
ok? what about uk and france then lol
Unless you’re Muslim or Arab I guess. They still harass those fellas
Buddy buddy buddy. Ever heard of Gary?
Gary something
no
bro talking bout gary the snail
Shit countries
Ngl he did pop in mind when I said the name
nah but like memes aside how are uk and france shit countries
I mean ever heard of Paris syndrome?
british and french people
aren't they like among the most democratic countries on earth lol
that is a tourism thing
people just crying because it isn't as pretty as it is in movies and stuff
Yeah they assault Muslims like I said earlier
similarly
new york
There’s videos of it
bro thats just people being disappointed by paris
Also no Muslim allowed neighborhoods and stuff
this is a fair point but also britain and england do this too
Did I not say UK is shit? My bad
Hey UK is shit
I’m definitely getting muted for this
LOL
sure hate crimes happen but I was talking about governments sportswashing to hide their wrongdoings
is sportswashing typically systematic or immediate
Yeah primer league was doing that
elaborate
Also
I'm not familiar
What KSA is doing to football is literally what eu is doing
Bring all the players from other regions to play there
idk I don't think this convo is going anywhere
you keep doing whataboutisms and stuff
ye
I don’t wanna talk about politics cuz I’ll get muted or banned
i still think quartz is the best hitscan rn
Like general shit might be fine but I don’t wanna leave bro
at least the best widow
😭
you have to remember that quartz is popping off on widow with tvnt and a pharah otp on his team
think about what he could do with an actual good team
soon we wont have to think about it, we'll be able to watch it
Weeeeeeeeeeeeell
I’m not so confident with the new roster outside of Seicoe
fair
Yeah but hey I still believe
I gotta
If Quartz can carry with otp dps
Imagine carrying with seicoe
That’s all TM needs
Right?
Am I the only one who thinks this is super funny?
The clip started late but rein was with his team, he walks away all around the hotel then walks back.
Doesnt rly help your international image when no one outside your country watches it
Most are from USA yes but millions watch it from outside as well
i was gonna say "i thought cuffa was subbing for ntmr" until i realized infekted is here
Is there a TU game rn?
Wtf
gg
oh wait its 1-1
Peps look good
MAAAAAAAN
TU should win this
idk wtf is wrong with my WiFi today
Did your stream freeze to
bro what the fuck is up with tu and koth maps
Why? Also ITS FUNNY! Lol he just went for a walk
Their coach is none other. Mister theory himself
He’s purposely losing KOTH to boost his theory
I see 
I didn’t know people still get so mad being called a loser in 2025
are they doing hero bans?
kai threw?
idk they started signing a lot of solid players
That’s bs
He isn’t on TU cuz he’s not friends with kev
Unfair
Thought ken was a cass player
Fd is good on lucio
I want to see some chase hazard
lucio otp in hero ban era gg
He played it yesterday
Geez
yeahhh mfc dying after stage 1
I'm gonna be honest, I like ksaa but I wish they had bestola :p
How is his hazard?
Ewww ksaa
vestolas? I have no idea
Good wall
I haven’t seen him play
yea hes with vp so he wont play until regular season
Get this guy off Genji
should have been 4 asia slots at lan instead of 2 asia 2 china
bro who will even be on the second china team lol
gg
Streets saying Mel quit his job just to watch owcs
Wait it’s confirmed no???
yea
its confirmed he stays
Ooohhhh lord save me my drug is my baby
what the fuck are you talking about
lol
It’s kind awkward how Korea gets 4 partner slots but only 2 slots at lan
I know the 4 partner slots wasn’t the original vision but still
I think the whole of asia should have gotten 4 slots
like last year but with china and two more slots
Did they not have any changes?
no not any players at least
Wouldn’t it be super boring if top 3 were always Korean?
idrk the coaching staff
FLC looks super nerfed if the rumors are true
Huh
They the only thing that is bad imo is losing stalker, someone might be better than Hanbin Smurf in a hero bans meta
And if the shu rumours were false surely fielder is still there
I mean going from stalker to merit is a really big downside
Yeah
Stalker is really fucking good
Yeah
you'd think having some pacific/japanese team would be cool until they lose every map and are the first to get knocked out
wait
i mean china
second china team
will be shit

I mean it seems they said what they wanted while being respectful. Exo, take notes.
And what they said sounds legit
i hope these new NA teams are as entertaining as the last ones
Eh
Actually yeah
At least we should a real rivalry in the region now instead of Toronto shitting on everyone
EU roster mania was peak tho endless competition
What were the teams for NA again?
SSG has seeker, sugarfree, and Cjay. I’m guessing the other two are Korean?
Korean tank
Yeah it was Kellan and bliss iirc
And liquid was Infekted tree peli and Rupal Vega maybe idk
At least from the rumours
Neither roster was confirmed yet right?
Thought pelican was in zeta
I just mentioned the ones I saw from the teaser
He was in the rumours for team liquid and it's no secret he likes playing in na
No idea tho
I don’t like waiting lol
Rumours are probably inaccurate tho
well actually liquid has the money so maybe not
I mean the TU one was spot on
True
Which makes me think they might be accurate
I hope they're accurate bc those teams looked so much fun
Looked like they all had a chance
God I really hope it’s not another TD situation
yeah that's why I really like EU rn
Wait who is on NTMR?
Cuffa, zeruhh, lethal, admiral, and I can’t think of the fS
Lethal might actually have to start playing again lol. No third dps to take his spot.
Will lethal finally play????
OH UV
What do you think? Ntmr better or worse
uhhh
Oh nvm lethal ain’t playing
Idk tbh
I didn’t see vision
I wanna say they're worse but maybe not
Only time lethal plays is if vision calls him again and asks him to take his spot and clutch up a reverse sweep
Clear still has a lot of potential, maybe lethal actually gets playtime, cuffah is always solid, and the backline is an upgrade imo
Yeah I wanna say they’re slightly worse just very slightly worse but than again. Cuffa does kinda have a nice winton for a white boy
I think Cjay is top 2 na
Or top3 it’s fine
Yeah him Rupal and UV are the best in na
The order lowkey depends on the meta ngl
if Juno is super strong I got cjay at one ngl
Oh yeah there's no news on tht
Yeah i agree
It should go to ntmr theyre lowkey the reason na was able to stay entertaining after ewc
Fl4k did say they’re sticking around. At least for this year. He loves the game too much to quit he said
But it’s such a small org. Literally one team, right? The smart move is to parter up with massive orgs like cloud9
Not giving it to NRG or ntmr is crazy
But I guess that allowed Zeta to stick around
did Toronto leave bc they didn't get a spot or were they leaving anyways?
no accoring to tree
Imo Zeta is a bigger org
Wait kr has 4 slots now? I'm so out the loop
Nah they didn’t even apply for a spot. They had no intention for this year. The owner said that the scene doesn’t have enough sponsors basically. They’ll be more than happy to join next year if things continue to grow. They said they like the direction they’re going.
That would make it 10 orgs
Understandable
No?
They probably make way more money from cdl
this is true
Yeah he kept mentioning how ultra was the most selling skin in cod
TD basically just wanted more sponsors to stick around this year
I got the ultra skin in 2023 before I knew who they were
For COD?
yeah
Is it purple?
it prob optioc
Yep
optic
I got infernal before I got into owl. Been a fan since
What about them?
think they sell more cdl
Looking forward to optic, 100T, and C9 to join hopefully
in cdl
No TD owner literally kept mentioning that they’re the most selling
He kept saying the most
Not one of
Or top 3
It is the best color way I believe it
No idea
faze
keep forgetting those guys are still an org
Idk why but I hate FaZe
I was cheering for G2 back in r6 days
I just route for the team wit the players I like
im fucking wit m80 rn
doest make sense cuz optic has the most views
in cdl
M80 is in other games?
I mean some people would just buy skins cuz they like the colors
Probably in cs too
I thought they were just in overwatch idk why tho
Idk why I had the impression they were a t2 org
Apparently VP is a big org? Never seen them in other games
I was shocked to see VP get a spot
ive heard of them in cs
The orgs better have awesome skins. The colors better go hard.
TM, and NTMR colors
Oh shit NTMR isn’t a partner nvm
ssg?
Yellow and black
I’m hoping white black and neon green
I think it's just white and black but in the Asia lan their highlight color was green
viol2t trapped with the black white and green
The skins for Valorant do not match colors
Wonder how tier one and CR will work since they are both black and red no?
forever and outlaws player
At least the new guns have completely different colors
idk who to cheer for t1 or cr
They’re be different shades
T1 might have red as the primary maybe and Cr will have black
Do we even know the T1 roster?
Let them announce the rosters first
There you go
cuz faker
100t said they wish they paid the 2 million for TenZ
TWO MILLION
he’s a video game pro dude
They didn’t spend it. They said 2 million is too much but after tenZ retired, and time has passed, nadeshot said he should’ve went for it
Apparently prime TenZ was a beast
idk
Also
i dont watch val
Valorant makes skins specifically for VCT and 50% of the revenue goes to the teams
Guess how much last VCT made
ik it alot
Yeah it took me 4 years to get use to it
i seen it forgot the amount
10mill
damn
and rumors say val esports is dying
they get 15 mill
And then you have fucking overwatch that only uses the shittiest skins they can find and only give 25% to teams
lol makes a lot just from icons
At least have a top tier skin and you’ll make more money
The fact they intentionally pick the worst skins is upsetting cuz they rather sell the best skins at full price
owl was like 20 for one skin
Technically it’s two
The skins are expensive cuz they split it with the org
For owl?
league
OH YOU MEAN BUNDLES?
lol is league of legends
Oh I didn’t see you type lol first
ya i think it like 20 for a whole pack
Why?
for the whole skin
Why?
idk
Why?
riot
faker skin was like 500 overall
Riot is way more greedier than blizzard
100 cheapest i think
yes abd bo
and no
they have really good skins for low price
I can’t believe the shitty monetary policies they use in Valorant
Cheapest knife you’ll find is 35$
ya idk the prices i heard there a lot
Valorant’s skins are so expensive
The last bundle they had was 95$
ALMOST 100$!!!
But
Hey at least if you just want the knife and not the 100$ bundle
You can get it for 53$
Their skins have tiers and the best and most popular skins don’t get discounts
wtf
Also
You can’t just go to the skins and just scroll to find the one you wanna buy
You have to check daily through 4 times at a time hoping you get what you want
ngl tht just sounds shit
val sounds like shit
hoping for value deadlock to pop off
They legit pressure people into buying skins cuz you have a day to decide if you want the skin you finally been waiting for or wait for it to leave rotation and never know when it’ll be on again
ist tht like aginst the law in come areas
Their monetary system is very predatory and unacceptable but Valorant whales don’t mind it. They even defend it
same fans tht prob play lol
ALSO
you always have to pay more than you need for a skin
A skin would be like a fucking random number like 21,778 or some shit
But you have to spend 25$
na is dead
Good. About time
Chill we got mr 3rd place team aswell
welcome to riot
Ssg is 100% seeker Lenny and cjay tho
Idk the rest
They have a long haired teammate
So it can’t be a Korean
is it lip
Also they DO NOT GIVE SKINS FOR FREE OR FOR GRINDING. Not even twitch drops. Seriously ever since I’ve gotten into Valorant, I legit think blizzard is very generous. Skins are cheaper, they give you free skins for challenges and drops. Constantly
i seen lol started doing this
Fixa
they made it harder to get skins
It’s bullshit
and to get champs
Their community doesn’t complain so they keep doing it
Is he a main supp
Overwatch bullied the devs into make monetary changes
He is but I’m joking idk fr
I just remember he had hair like that
prob cuz val and lol are like some of the legit job in counties
lol and val pro scene is seen as a real job by a lot
It could be
Why didn’t Lenny go liquid
I know they pay more
he prob bored
didt lenny say he would have retired
But Lenny is Lenny
Dude if tr33 isn’t on ssg then he’s definitely on Liquid
Hoooooot take for you Lenny glazers but tr33 has the better genji
i think tree is with knife
Tr33 echo is demonic
He diffed tf out of kev
No it’s actually not
Kev is overrated
I wanna see him diff seicoe on echo
Anyway
Tr33 is more flexible anyway
So no, you do not want both on the same team.
He’s hyper flex yea
No one is more hyper flex than the goat himself, Stalk3r
Koreans are op tho
He did
oh
He diffed Quartz on widow, played Cassidy, Ashe too
i only seen him on mccreee and soj
Oh yes and soj too
He beat CR on soj before she got her buffs
Then he swaps to echo and hard diffs heesang
Nah that’s not necessary
Also
Have them separate teams allows for two good teams instead
You want them both on one team so we get the TD treatment again
They can farm na
Dude
We need a Korean competitor
Tr33 Knife is fine
Knife isn’t confirmed
If the rumors for TU were spot on than I think they might be true
Knife was rumored to be on vp
Anyone got the pic for the teams again
Ssg so far looks accurate
How do you know
Ssg is prob true
Someone sent their official roster here earlier
Official?
Legit?
Not rumors?
Also I think TM is definitely looking to get a Korean tank
I don’t have twitter so I’ll take your word
They should
Hadi as solo tank …
Idk about it
Yeah…
I’m worried for TM
the dps line is amazing but irony is a question mark and the other 3 are…oof
They’ll snatch Donghak
Why doesn’t WHORU’s ring with the Mayhem not show up on his liquidpedia?
Unless im blind
Idk. I don’t really check those things
Maybe cus he didn’t play?
Idk
Is he not the only player with 3 OWL championships?
Smurf has 3
Smurf has 3
Gotcha
But Whoru does have 3 owl? Right?
No clue
T1 looks a loooooot like infernal
Twisted looks cool
And JQ looks like Vancouver
Yeah that’s what I thought lol
Surely this isn’t the real colors
These are just copy of OWL skins
They are fan made
Oh thank god
They’re good colors and stuff but they’re definitely already like the owl
They need to be different
Ngl im willing to bet we won’t get team skins until stage 2
That’s fine
No way they have them made already
Gives people time to pick a team to cheer for
we all getting junbin wrecking ball
I don’t even play ball
Aight…
Imma get Zeta Bap but Viol2t ain’t played Bap since like the outlaws 😭
Unc don’t got it no more
Imma get zeta Lucio for the goat
like 5th time i seen this post
CR Ana is a must
tm reinhardt
Mauga…mauga erm…mauga FLC?
Zeta Echo for Pelican(pretty sure pelican hasn’t played echo in years)
hadi aint on ssg anymore
Stalker is the best echo
We not getting for who was the best last season on the hero?
I really wish they’re was a purple team
You have LA GLADS
I got the infernal for bap
You can’t?
So why is the store still there?
For people who have left over coins
Oh
Not the same thing tho😭
Yeah why same
I like the color and player
Be different
i want owcs player icons
I don’t like anyone on twisted enough to get a skin for them
Oh
I hope they keep giving out OWCS skins
I need my OWCS skin for TRACER
and genji
Quartz maybe
Really? You don’t like Quartz?
Thought everyone loved him
Nah I do
😭
why
The neon street bundle was trash imo
Hopefully
they should always be a thing
he said double down
They take some of the org money and fund the event themselves
BETTER MORE SKINS
im confused
u seen those prices
they should make a cool rein or mercy skin for crowdfunding
we would get millions then
Wish they still did mvp skins
Can’t have shit
I wonder if they’ll change the UI to look like the teams color in the matches now
It’s one thing I miss for owl
Like how if the glads were playing they’re bullets and abilities were purple
the sombra? def
ye
''Our nine Partners Teams will receive a portion of the proceeds from several in-game Team packs across the year, including branded in-game cosmetics for fans to show their support for their favorite org. Let’s introduce our Partner Teams!''
its says ''team packs"
is it possible that instead of skinning the whole ow roster for each team that they just sell a 5 character pack of the each teams most iconic played heroes?
would be lowkey lame asf if they did that
unless the skins were more than just the ow2 base model with the team skin and logo
they should add sprays too
There’s not enough good players for this
Kr looks interesting
If only we get to see them at a lan
Cr and falcons gate keep everyone
But where is someone and Merit
Fearless think he could hide changing his name
Falcons rumors were limp 💔💔
And pelican is still in Korea so the team liquid rumors was wrong
Praying they're on GenG
But probably on a CN org
Can't say I agree, it's much more like OWWC away
coaches aare also good
from the rumors its not its
Top Dragon, Sauna, Mag, Keniel, and Crispy
maybe BLG return
That's why i said im praying
But now that I think about it Idk which would be a better outcome
i mean Mer1t Somone would be the better Imports
Yeah but I mean which team would be a better situation for them
personally SKT
SKT?
SKTT1
Aka t1
T1
SK Telecom T1
but i did figure Viper would be on T1 considering the coach
and HDJ were great
T1 roster was confirmed and they're not on there
Who are they
Rush fleta
Rush sus
Real
Rush and Fleta
ye