esports-discussion

[static turret]

Stacking bread

[glass sleet]

I don’t blame him

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Real

[glass sleet]

Also

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Why play for a eu team that won’t ever make it finals owcs when you can play for a team guaranteed top2 in everything

[glass sleet]

He would get paid a lot playing for TM too. Cuz TM wins every eleague stage

[static turret]

True

Idk

Kr has alot of side leagues

But so does Saudi

[glass sleet]

But do they win every stage?

[static turret]

No

[glass sleet]

Soooooo

Maybe

Idk lol

[static turret]

Falcons are either winning every stage or 2nd

[glass sleet]

He would definitely play more and get paid more than others

[static turret]

We will see what’s going on this season soon

New teams

Maybe Majed sees 2 games play her stage instead of 1

[glass sleet]

Yeah but what’s second prize for OWCS? Not much

[wise orbit]

majed needs to get his lazy ahh back to eu

[static turret]

A large margin less than 1st

[glass sleet]

So 4 1st might be more

[wise orbit]

why did falcons even sign him lol what was the vision

[glass sleet]

I’m talking overall. Not just prize pools.

Falcons might just straight up be paying him so much

[wet bay]

E league is so boring do people actually watch it

[viscid hatch]

Saudi representative i think

[glass sleet]

I guess idk. It’s just TM winning every time

[wise orbit]

but why would you need a saudi representative

[wet bay]

TM vs a few good players mixed with plumbers

[wet bay]

Sponsor money or some shit who knows

[wise orbit]

maybe advertising for saudi fans actually

that would make sense

[glass sleet]

For commercials and stuff

[late saddle]

Ye sorta

[wet bay]

The Saudi fans tuning into Falcons to see Majed play 1 in every 100 maps

[glass sleet]

Yeah I would be watching roc just cuz they had seicoe and Landon

[late saddle]

But my team praises me

[wet bay]

I wanted to see an interesting game of Seicoe Landon against Hadi but Hadi's plumbers were just worse

[glass sleet]

DUDE

I want English commentary

[glass sleet]

They only had one import

[late saddle]

Ive had a hazard say "orisa, swap so everyone else can play the game and have fun"

Like bruh stfu

[glass sleet]

My bad

[late saddle]

Hey

[wet bay]

Topdragon was on Zarya winning Vs Hadi

[glass sleet]

Hi

[late saddle]

RAHHH HELLO

[glass sleet]

LOL YEAH

I forgot about that

Wasn’t hadi on winton

Or something

[torn portal]

chills

maybe korea is the best region after all

https://x.com/jianjianow/status/1878755590882869657?s=46 mildly interesting, could be neat in owcs

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Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 10:46 AM

[robust patio]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[torn portal]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[robust patio]

nom

[vagrant mason]

Yo what happened to OWL I went away for 2 years and now I’m seeing teams n shit I’ve never seen or heard of honestly curious what happened

Last I remember Shock were champions again super was Hog and Smurf joined back apparently?

[wet bay]

Dead it's ow champion series now anyone can enter

[torn portal]

ironically smurf never stopped playing until like a couple weeks ago 😭 viol2t still going at it if you care

[wise orbit]

w pfp

[torn portal]

i get that a lot

[gaunt void]

Hello moto

[mortal cipher]

TLDR Shanghai Had the most dominant playoff run 5v5 Dallas fuel won and mayhem so all the bottom teams won owl, it wasn’t financially viable offered like 6 mil to quit and now we are in OWCS we’re its orgs instead of franchises

[hazy marsh]

The franchises were basically just the orgs with a different name aswell no?

[robust patio]

well not really

[hazy marsh]

How so?

I'm uninformed

I just know that they were backed by the orgs

At least most of them

[robust patio]

yes they were but now none of the owl orgs support owcs

sf shock was the last org to support

[hazy marsh]

Owl franchises you mean?

Cuz shock's org was nrg

[robust patio]

yes

now nrg is gone

[hazy marsh]

And werent the rumors saying C9 was looking to join? They were spitfire's org

And GenG is confirmed, and they were Seoul Dynasty

[echo rampart]

blizzard fumbled

[mortal cipher]

The orgs were the parent companies

[static pond]

https://x.com/pokerface_ow/status/1879069555471028545?s=46

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Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 7:34 AM

[mortal cipher]

Not all of them were even game companies

Interesting

Seems like a downgrade on paper at least

[static pond]

Clear was also gonna join

Be he sick

[static pond]

Tbf poker face has a habit of investing into future talent

[mortal cipher]

That is true, I’m saying on paper tbf

[static pond]

Also apparently the deadline is the 16 for rosters to be signed

Still no news on a third na org

[mortal cipher]

So a day after lck lol

[mortal cipher]

Is c9 not the org ???

If not then maybe Envy another top na org in other esports or one that isn’t in much esports

[static pond]

We’re not sure

Leaks don’t say anything

[mortal cipher]

Ah ok

[static pond]

Ssg tl teams have been leaked

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[static pond]

But not c9

[mortal cipher]

C9 seems to be either unsure or fell through

[static pond]

Kinda crazy if there no third na org and they let nrg walk out

[mortal cipher]

If c9 falls they could try to get NRG or another major esport org

[static pond]

I wouldn’t know who else besides nrg

Yap pretty much don’t wanna get into owcs cuz they don’t know how it benefits them

[mortal cipher]

Maybe another major one like Envy Fly And maybe G2

[static pond]

I think other big orgs see it the same way

[static pond]

I really don’t know tbh

I would want faze or optic to join owcs

Since there very well known in na

https://x.com/dreamlandow/status/1878642500065472654?s=46

Dreamland (@DreamlandOW) on X

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Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 3:17 AM

[torn portal]

who what

first off we got donghun 😭

d4rt was pretty memorable for being good at least

donghun….

the rest idk

[mortal cipher]

Who does

[static turret]

Why is this just a downgrade

[static pond]

There most likely just contenders players

[static turret]

Proud preformed amazing last year

Why are they getting rid

[static pond]

Proud is rumor to be on a other team

[static turret]

I see

Cool ig

[desert fractal]

what was the meta in owl 2023 playoffs

[lunar gull]

It was very open, lots of monkey kiri Lucio still

But Florida won putting someone on sigma

And they also did some rein bap Lucio in the finals. Lots of different stuff

[desert fractal]

and thats why

personally

owl 2023 was prolly the best outta all of em

personally

playoffs wise

[whole compass]

im not sure there was a clear meta.
london played rein brawl.
spark played almost always ana brig monkey sojourn tracer but sometimes doom.
florida played mostly sigma.

but yeah it was very open we saw queen zarya orisa

[whole compass]

the matches of spark and london were electrifying sure, but the rest were mostly boring... another grand finals sweep for example.
in terms of playoffs 2022 is for me the winner even though it was the same comp always, but atleast it was exciting to watch peak sojourn gameplay. Also the 2022 finals are easily the best finals of all time and one of the best matches of all time

[desert fractal]

actually good point

owl 2022 was like

all bangers

even tho same comp

that made it so that every match was close

[mortal cipher]

Like 2021 where there was no meta

And much like 2021 and Shanghai Florida was so flexible there were better than everyone else

[glass sleet]

Good for misin for joining an org

[vapid marlin]

Is there anyone in here whos join the esports? Im curious on whats its like

[static pond]

https://x.com/fbrnfl22/status/1878664971422429654?s=46

22 (@fbrnfl22) on X

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Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 4:46 AM

Idk why this looks so wholesome

[torn portal]

all amazing players on bad/mid teams are getting rosters more deserving of their talent

and the opposite

[humble token]

Where is proud

[static pond]

https://x.com/0907_ow/status/1879261482292314280?s=46

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Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 8:17 PM

[static pond]

I do not know

[humble token]

Also whats tm roster now

[static pond]

https://x.com/owcesports/status/1875593825126904181?s=46

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The future of @TwisMinds is here 🧠

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Twitter · Jan 4, 2025, 5:23 PM

[humble token]

Why is youbi still in💀

Tm just wasting money

I like irony pic tho

[wise orbit]

they need 2 saudis for some other saudi related league

but keeping lbbd7 instead would have been better I think

[humble token]

Ye idk why

[weary scarab]

where tf did tvnt go

[wise orbit]

some other smaller team probably

[glass sleet]

I think the twis community think he’s really good or something. But as a twisted minds fan, I guess it’s ok to have him if it’s a sym meta but other than that nah.

Maybe not just the twisted fans, maybe the Arab community in general.

The best TM looked since KSAA left was when lbbd7 was in

[glass sleet]

He left TM but I’m sure he’ll find another team. He’s not a bad tank.

[glass sleet]

Keeping lbbd7 when you have seicoe?

[wise orbit]

instead of youbi yes

[glass sleet]

I haven’t really seen seicoe play pharah but he’s the best eu echo imo

[glass sleet]

Youbi is good enough to force sym in eleague

[wise orbit]

yea u want two good fdps for double flex compositions

[glass sleet]

They did it last time

[glass sleet]

But lbbd7 is a one trick

[wise orbit]

two trick

though I think he could expand his hero pool

[glass sleet]

His echo isn’t good

Also you’ll just have seicoe on echo

[wise orbit]

I can't say actually because I haven't seen it but the general consensus seems to be that his phara and echo are great

[glass sleet]

Lbbd7 is a two trick. He plays pharah and bap lol

[wise orbit]

no phara and echo

[glass sleet]

Only his pharah. Arabs will tell you his echo is great but dude never plays echo without a mercy pocket

[wise orbit]

I see

[glass sleet]

His echo isn’t bad but pharah by far is his best hero

By far

So much that it’s a one trick level basically

[wise orbit]

Still his phara is probably more valuable than anything youbi brings to the table

plus he's just an awful guy to have on your team from what i've heard

[glass sleet]

Fair

[wise orbit]

he apparently bullied ksaa off the roster

[glass sleet]

Yeah

[glass sleet]

Yeah he’s a bad person but a decent player tbf

[wise orbit]

idk

[glass sleet]

Although I really don’t think he’d be picked up by anyone else if he got dropped

[wise orbit]

they refused to play him in stage 4

[glass sleet]

Cuz his two characters aren’t meta

But I think he’s only a one trick

Dude feeds on mei

[wise orbit]

they put in lbbd7 on mei when they played gibraltar

[glass sleet]

Yeah lol

I’m thinking maybe youbi is a package deal with Quartz

Btw did you watch EWC?

[wise orbit]

yea not all of it tho

I mainly watched the ence games

and finals

[glass sleet]

TM played TD

And TM lost cuz youbi refuses to swap off sym when sugarfree was bullying him on pharah

[wise orbit]

lol

[glass sleet]

They barely pushed the payload right up the bridge when they ran out of time cuz he wouldn’t swap.

Than Quartz went CRAZY on widow on defense. They legit almost full held them after first point but eh

[wise orbit]

oh yeah damn tm went 0-4 against toronto

[glass sleet]

I can’t remember if youbi told them to spawn hold or what but they left point and Lenny snuck in and pushed the bot

But it’s always Quartz fixing youbi’s mistakes.

[wise orbit]

yeah

at least they have seicoe this year so he'll probably be benched the entire season lol unless theres like a crazy sym meta or omething

[glass sleet]

I hope so

Seicoe definitely has the better tracer too

[wise orbit]

yeah

it rivals kevsters imo

[glass sleet]

I’m not so confident about the new TM roster but glad they got seicoe

[wise orbit]

bro I can't wait for stage 1 to start

seeing all these crazy eu rosters bro this is gonna go crazy

[glass sleet]

Same

I think TU so far seems the strongest

[wise orbit]

I agree

It's basically ence but with ksaa instead of vestola and a new korean backline

[glass sleet]

Wait do they have kev?

[wise orbit]

yea

[glass sleet]

Kev kai and skai?

[wise orbit]

yea

and chase

[glass sleet]

I hope the Koreans aren’t washed. Faith was on old ocean bro. And twilight hasn’t played since owl?

[wise orbit]

yea idk a lot about those guys tbh but I've heard twilight was crazy back in the day

this could potentially be the best eu team on dive

[glass sleet]

On paper it sounds like it

[wise orbit]

I'm excited to see gen.g too it's about time sauna and topdragon play on a top team

[deft marlin]

twilight was fucking amazing

[wise orbit]

I hope they pick up sparkr too

[deft marlin]

he might be washed now thoi😭

[wise orbit]

bro I wish I watched owl when it was still around I got into ow esports last year 😭

[deft marlin]

if you want to know how good twilight was wathc this https://youtu.be/gDyJA-Lslhk?si=86y88piGcNKrTwC-

[wise orbit]

Thx!

[deft marlin]

really every player on that channel

the hanbin is smurfing in owl is my favorite

[torn portal]

also he does fill the role of a backbone

well

“fill” the role

[wise orbit]

if only he wasn't shit

[glass sleet]

Aren’t they both fdps?

[wise orbit]

yeah

similar hero pools too

[glass sleet]

Tbh his youbi isn’t good enough to be called a two trick. He’s a sym one trick

[wise orbit]

but if they pick up sparkr or some other hs player that would be awesome

[glass sleet]

Sauna was playing hitscan cuz shockwave wasn’t playing

[deft marlin]

I will always wonder how much more money zeta offered viol2t compared to CR or Falcons. Or if they even made him an offer.

[glass sleet]

You’re saying that like he was wanted by those two

[deft marlin]

you dont think with the inital inception of owcs viol2t wasnt a top free agent?

[glass sleet]

Falcons wanted chiyo fielder from the start. WAC back then was just players that wanted to play together.

[deft marlin]

so WAC was just a group of friends then😭

[glass sleet]

So I don’t think wac thought they wanted Viol2t when they had chorong who just won owl

[glass sleet]

In a way I guess

[static turret]

Why would they when shu and fielder are right there

[glass sleet]

And Viol2t also maybe just wanted to play with his old friend FiNN

[static turret]

Some of the the teams yea are just players who’ve played together a lot

Fielder chiyo

[deft marlin]

If only NA teams were willing to pay more, if they imported Vil2t along with a tank or a great damage theyd have a guarenteed spot to LAN every year.

[static turret]

Finn Violet

[glass sleet]

Yeah but how many orgs do you think would pay more than Zeta?

ALSO

[static turret]

Cr and falcons

Thats it

Maybe ssg

Liquid ?

[glass sleet]

you’ll have to pay WAY MORE just to convince them to move to NA and play with a mix roster

[deft marlin]

I only watch ow so i dont know how big Zeta is

[static turret]

Zeta is a big org

[wise orbit]

also btw is it just me or shouldn't korea be the region with its own 2 lan slots instead of china

[static turret]

They have teams everywhere

[glass sleet]

Zeta has partnered program with Valorant

[wise orbit]

since they are so much better than the rest of asia

[static turret]

Kr does have 2 spots

Wdym

[wise orbit]

well yes but you know what I mean lol

[static turret]

?

[glass sleet]

I hope we start with 9 orgs this year

And grow from there

[wise orbit]

its 2 eu 2 na 2 cn and 2 asia rn

[glass sleet]

Valorant has like 20

[wise orbit]

but shouldn't it be 2 eu 2 na 2kr and 2 asia with china in asia

[glass sleet]

Idk

[static turret]

China is its own region

[glass sleet]

I have no idea how they’ll do it

Yeah China isn’t Asia

[static turret]

Tbh tho

I’m fine with 2 from each region

That’s fair

[wise orbit]

thats what im saying

china should be asia

since they are closer to japan and pacific than korea

[deft marlin]

Dream Scenario would be Viol2t imported to an NA team along with Carpe out of retirement to that same team and Lenny on flex. That shit is NEVER happening tho.

[wise orbit]

in skill

[glass sleet]

2 eu, 2 na, 2 kr, 2 cn, 2 Asia

[static turret]

Wut

Kr is in Asia

Asia region

[glass sleet]

KR their own region

OF COURSE KOREA IS IN ASIA BRO

we talking about game system

[static turret]

We don’t need 2 non Korean teams@from Asia

They all suck

[glass sleet]

Nvm

[static turret]

Maybe if they can manage to not get swept once

Then

[glass sleet]

Kr is part of Asia for some reason

[wise orbit]

because rn the two asia slots will always be korea which sucks for the rest of asia and the second china team will just be a meme

[static turret]

We can have them

[deft marlin]

Im looking out for China this year, hopefully Leave and Guxue can lock in

[static turret]

We don’t need any other non Korean team from Asia

[wise orbit]

so why not make the second china team compete with japanese and pacific teams for a lan slot

[static turret]

The best pacific team couldn’t beat a 4th seeded pokerface

Let alone take a map

[glass sleet]

They wanna lock in but their one trick heroes are locked out XD

[wise orbit]

no i know

thats why im saying korea should be its own region instead of china

[static turret]

Either way

China gets those 2 spots

lol

[glass sleet]

So KR and CN would be part of Asia?

[deft marlin]

its sad cause Leave was so good at so many heroes back in owl, bro just not him anymore

[glass sleet]

Dude I think it might be too late to change the system

[glass sleet]

Why isn’t he him anymore?

[static turret]

Japan and pacific will never see a lan event ngl

Unfortunately

[wise orbit]

there are good pacific teams

[static turret]

They just can’t produce talent like kr

[wise orbit]

that could definitely compete with the second china team

isnt oa like the only good team in china

[static turret]

And oa academy

lol

[glass sleet]

I think we’re giving first CN too much credit

They’re kinda a one trick team

[static turret]

There’s also the chance China gets swept first round of lan

[wise orbit]

and even then oa got their asses whooped in ewc

[static turret]

By everyone else

[wise orbit]

china kinda sucks now methinks

[static turret]

It comes down to 3rd place bc both kr teams are 1 and 2

[glass sleet]

But for a winton one trick, he did play better than expected

[wise orbit]

pacific could definitely compete with them

[glass sleet]

Where’s bleed esports rn

[static turret]

Stuck in pacific jail

[glass sleet]

Welp

[static turret]

They lost to poker face in Asia playoffs

I think

[glass sleet]

They didn’t have the goat clear

[static turret]

Not much you can do when you have 2 kr teams with 5 mvps

[deft marlin]

where is WHORU curently? with this hazard meta hes gotta be having succes on the genji comp

[static turret]

As your opponent

[static turret]

Also in pacific jail

[deft marlin]

GG

[static turret]

Last year he was on some 4th seeded pacific team

Got cooked

[glass sleet]

He was in pacific

I feel like EU can make another top tier team if only sirmajed went back

[wise orbit]

guxue? isnt he kinda crazy on the doom too

[static turret]

Tm is top tier

For eu

[deft marlin]

he check collecting rn

[static turret]

All you need is quartz and seicoe tbh

They carry eu

[glass sleet]

Best doom imo but I meant he was playing mauga and JQ

[wise orbit]

ah i see

[glass sleet]

He’d still get paid a lot playing for TM

[wise orbit]

ok chill seicoe is not allat

[glass sleet]

I really like that duo BUT I’m not so confident about hadi and astro

[static turret]

Seicoe is the best eu flex

[glass sleet]

Top two EU fdps

[wise orbit]

no kevster

[static turret]

😭

Kevster in 2025

Yikes

[wise orbit]

0/10 rage bait

[deft marlin]

Kevster agenda gotta go away

[static turret]

You really think he’s still the best?

[glass sleet]

I mean sure you can say kev

[deft marlin]

this is not OW1

[glass sleet]

But imo seicoe

[wise orbit]

better than seicoe yes

[static turret]

It’s just og bias

He’s been in the league for awhile

Can’t let your goat get called washed yk

I get it

I still think super is a top 3 na tank

[glass sleet]

Maybe kev will play better having KSAA on his team

[wise orbit]

its not even that much about kevster you guys are just overestimating seicoe

[glass sleet]

Currently?

[static turret]

Yes 🙏

That’s my goat

My na goat

[deft marlin]

lock in dawg

[static turret]

Seicoe preformed well and Kevster is just on a decline

[glass sleet]

Dude seicoe always played well on SSG. Even in Stockholm when his team was legit SHIT, he was still playing well getting kills and making plays.

[wise orbit]

guys did we see the same ence last year

[static turret]

Yes we did

[glass sleet]

They legit won fights cuz of seicoe alone

[wise orbit]

vestola and kevster carried that roster

[static turret]

We also saw seicoe

[glass sleet]

Dude ence was garbage

[wise orbit]

especially kevster

[wise orbit]

but they were still top 2 eu because of kevster

[glass sleet]

They were top 2 cuz who else was there?

TM had major roster issues and ence still got 4-0 by SSG

[deft marlin]

what are the chances a team signs PGE for marketing purposes like how Falcons partly signed Majed for Saudi marketing purposes

[wise orbit]

ence and ssg might have looked very one sided last season but if u watched the games it was very neck and neck most of the time

[glass sleet]

Decent

[wise orbit]

and ence came out on top multiple times

[glass sleet]

He might get signed as a content creator tho

[deft marlin]

PGE and Lenny in a Pro match together would be fucking hilarious to watch

[static turret]

At the end of the day

Both of those teams played like ass when it mattered

[glass sleet]

I never watched their streams. Idk how funny they are

[static turret]

2 eu teams combined for 1 map win

[glass sleet]

TM being the best EU team was funny

[static turret]

Backbone and his 80% useless percentage

[deft marlin]

you can watch the yt, they're just extremely unserious

[static turret]

Kevster and his 0 blade kills

[glass sleet]

They barely made it to Stockholm

[deft marlin]

lollllll

[static turret]

Courtesy of the quartz carry

[wise orbit]

??????

[static turret]

Quartz deadlifted his team and his region

[wise orbit]

ence and ssg got 3rd and 4th in dallas

[static turret]

Dallas 💀

[glass sleet]

Wow 4th. That’s amazing

[wise orbit]

we are not beating korea bfr

[glass sleet]

What spot did they get in Stockholm or EWC?

[static turret]

👎

Shoutout tm tho

[glass sleet]

TD beat zeta so maybe

[static turret]

For carrying his region

[wise orbit]

bro the recency bias i cant

[glass sleet]

They’re not even part of EU lol

[glass sleet]

Erm EWC was a long time ago

[deft marlin]

Im really interested to see what hitscan gets paired with Lenny

[wise orbit]

he said tm carried eu LOL

[glass sleet]

Tr33

[static turret]

Mfw when the most recent performance is the one ppl look at

[deft marlin]

Please no bro

[glass sleet]

In Stockholm, they sure did.

[static turret]

Ppl called na bottom tier up until Stockholm

It was true

[glass sleet]

TM also got first place in stage 1

[static turret]

And now

[deft marlin]

When Souj isn't meta Tr33 is literally Celtics Shaq

[static turret]

Eu is 20 leagues below everyone else rn (besides tm)

[glass sleet]

And they were the only team to take a map off FLC

[wise orbit]

if they had any amount of consistency during the year sure

you cant just look at one tourney where they did good and say they carried the whole region

[static turret]

When we get to the big stage and both eu teams fold

[glass sleet]

And TM almost beat TD

[static turret]

When it mattered under the actual main tourney

And tm preformed

Where was ence and ssg?

[glass sleet]

As CX calls them, clutch merchants.

[glass sleet]

Bottom two

[wise orbit]

we had a really bad tourney I agree

[deft marlin]

where can i find the suspected roster banner someone made

[static turret]

Don’t worry tho we got 3 lans this year

[glass sleet]

Also this was SSG’s meta.

[static turret]

So everyone will prove themselves again

[glass sleet]

Hadi gonna look so good now being carried by Quartz

[wise orbit]

I'm just saying it's not fair to discredit ssg and ences performances during the rest of the year

[glass sleet]

They only did decent in Dallas tho

One lan

Where they got 4th

[static turret]

Ewc my na goats beat zeta

And Stockholm my na goats just cooked

[glass sleet]

Man I was hoping NTMR wouldn’t lose like that wtf

Idk why they immediately decided to mirror the JQ

[static turret]

3-0 was surprising

[glass sleet]

hello? You never scrimmed that

[static turret]

They couldn’t handle it

[wise orbit]

and 3rd

i literally said they got both like a second ago

[static turret]

Once again shout out tm for taking a map off falcons

[glass sleet]

SSG’s best spot was 3rd ONCE? Dude cmon that’s not impressive. Going 3rd to 7th is really bad.

[static turret]

The only non kr team to do it

[glass sleet]

And it’s not only that

THEY WERE BAD

when the meta was theirs

[glass sleet]

TM could’ve won but Stalk3r was too nasty.

[wise orbit]

bro we are not beating korea why are you acting like 3rd is not impressive for a western team

[glass sleet]

But then they went 7th

[wise orbit]

yes

[glass sleet]

And did badly in EWC

[wise orbit]

did they even do that bad

[glass sleet]

anyway

[wise orbit]

wait lemme check

[glass sleet]

What should I eat

I’m hungry

[deft marlin]

Word on the street NA will only have 2 partnered slots and they are giving the extra slot to Zeta. PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE

[glass sleet]

Breakfast burritos sounds good

[glass sleet]

Lies

[deft marlin]

most likely

[glass sleet]

Definitely

[deft marlin]

viol2t not being on a partnered org is so insane to me

[static turret]

Ssg placed like 8th

I think

[wise orbit]

bro eu didnt even do that bad

[glass sleet]

Why? He might’ve changed teams

You don’t know

[static turret]

My na goats tho

[wise orbit]

we got further than most na teams

[static turret]

Placing 2nd

[glass sleet]

Zeta maybe left

[static turret]

Actual demons

[glass sleet]

You don’t know

[wise orbit]

on average eu had a better performance than na at ewc

[deft marlin]

Ill go wherever my goat goes,i just don't know who has the money for him

[glass sleet]

Ooooooh on avg

I see I see

[wise orbit]

yes

[deft marlin]

all this falcons and CR controversy has yet to be confirmed true

[static turret]

On average na has more rings

[glass sleet]

He already got paid for throwing so many times

[deft marlin]

we dont talk about that

[wise orbit]

ssg and ence got further than every other non korean team except for toronto

[glass sleet]

I’ll be shocked if either of those two pick him up after his performance

[wise orbit]

bro toronto was the only na team to make it to quarterfinals

[glass sleet]

FLC and CR would pay him to stay away lol

[deft marlin]

never speak ill of Viol2t's runasapi ajax

[glass sleet]

They made it to finals in EWC wdym

[glass sleet]

DAMN!! I wasn’t even thinking about that one god damn!!

[wise orbit]

yea?

what

[deft marlin]

Yall just didnt see the vision🤣

[glass sleet]

I just was thinking of him ajaxing 3 times during one series

Or was it 4

[deft marlin]

shhhhh

[glass sleet]

My bad

I was a Houston fan so I can’t hate too much

[deft marlin]

the fact T1 is gettign a slot and their team is lookingf worse than Zeta annoys me

[wise orbit]

Also ssg and ence had 0 korean imports last year

[deft marlin]

I was thinking T1 was going to form a 2022 Dragons type roster the way everyone was hyping them up, but the rumors say the complete opposite

[mortal cipher]

rn the rumors are Somone Mer1t and the two coaches but T1 is v secret on about anything prob why there is barely anything

[viscid hatch]

If proud isn’t on a team who will he join? What other free agents (supposedly) are out rn

Proud, skewed

What tanks are even free

Donghak

[mortal cipher]

someone ( T1 most likely tho )

[static turret]

me

[mortal cipher]

same

[robust patio]

!!will someone join t1

[young fractal]

Very doubtful.

[torn portal]

he’s joining falcons

[robust patio]

nom

chill with rupal bliss someone

[viscid hatch]

Ask him

He’s right there

Trust

[robust patio]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[wet bay]

Gesture.. I'm still waiting for the return of the goat...

[vernal shoal]

its seeker no?

[hybrid hollow]

Ngl the lans should be way better this season in terms of competition

I think the na regular season is still gonna be kinda ass besides liquid and ssg

but the lans should be way closer between falcons the 3 EU partners, the 2 na ones, and China (just spark)

If the raccoons roster is still the same then uh they're kinda winning everything but everything else is gonna be good

[static turret]

Liquid players are making bread

Liquid is like the esports org

Lowkey I think it’s Time I get signed

Been chillin for too long and na needs another mvp tank

[hybrid hollow]

Unfortunately reinstalled ow last night

[static turret]

Twin having withdraws

[hybrid hollow]

Blame mads

[mortal cipher]

Rip

[torn portal]

c9 picks up nrg core and korean imports and is decently competitive

https://tenor.com/view/pge-overwatch-contenders-pray-pge-pray-gif-7556813403351791542

[mortal cipher]

TL being the na kings for two games lol

Hopefully there is at least one other team to be competitive so it’s not a repeat

[wise orbit]

anyone watching srpc scrim

[static pond]

https://x.com/whoru/status/1879207280522235927?s=46

Lee seung jun (@whoru) on X

Hello, today I unfortunately have to post some concerning news about the business practices of the Victory E-Sports Team in the SEL (Saudi E-League) and their treatment of players.

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 4:41 PM

https://x.com/rakattack/status/1879566716029600273?s=46

Rak (@Rakattack) on X

An unexpected post for me but I am now LFT for OWCS 2025. I want to be in the scene and play but for stage 1 it seems unlikely for me. I will post another update as the days go on but I appreciate all the love and support you guys have given me as a player in my career.

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 4:30 PM

I kinda expected rak to get signed by the third na team or something

[vernal shoal]

huh?

he got screwed by rostermania this late?

[rugged quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059160048925933600/1329177581043449856/image.png?ex=67896496&is=67881316&hm=c97b7cba109090c1d4ef78475a517993344e1e232ded0b077e555ec932634224&

[torn portal]

this the older leak

skeptical about VP though cus i thought knife was gonna be na

https://x.com/owcesports/status/1879569445955490101?s=46 japan will save overwatch genuinely. it beat val

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports) on X

#OWCS Japan named Esports Competition of the year at the Japan Esports Awards 🇯🇵

#Overwatch2 was also awarded Esports Game of the Year alongside two other titles

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 4:40 PM

[wise orbit]

Japan is an interesting region it sucks that they are so bad

maybe they can import a bunch of koreans and improve as a region this year

[mortal cipher]

well they also havent had a competitive scene much so they are behind where pacific had had pros where japan had only two

[glass sleet]

And?

Where’s the rest?

Did he delete that tweet?

[static pond]

It’s under it

[glass sleet]

I don’t see anything

[wise orbit]

ow is big in japan, it could be the next big region if there's investment

[static pond]

https://x.com/vtrfraggy/status/1879223661577875703?s=46

Vtrfraggy (@vtrfraggy) on X

@whoru Hello everyone,
Today, I want to address the misunderstanding and exploitation by some players who lack the necessary professional mindset when signing with esports organizations..

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 5:46 PM

[glass sleet]

Fuk that. I can’t check unless I make an account

Ain’t doing it

[static pond]

Want me to just leak every tweet?

Wait

Nvm

That like 16 tweets lmao

I just leak whorus

https://x.com/whoru/status/1879207327804571704?s=46

Lee seung jun (@whoru) on X

Around September 2024, I signed a contract with PEPPI and Ggultack @vtresports to participate in the Saudi E-League Major 4. The tournament ended on the 18th October 2024.

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 4:41 PM

https://x.com/whoru/status/1879207410050728335?s=46

Lee seung jun (@whoru) on X

@vtresports While there we had to pay for everything ourself because they told us that they had a problem with the bank at the time. To this day I am waiting for them to reimburse me for the stay, the food and even a visa to get into the country

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 4:42 PM

https://x.com/whoru/status/1879207451347833066?s=46

Lee seung jun (@whoru) on X

@vtresports They also didn't pay me my agreed upon salary. In total they still owe me 6,000 Riyals. The Org told us they fixed the bank problem in early December 2024.

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 4:42 PM

https://x.com/whoru/status/1879207880513249367?s=46

Lee seung jun (@whoru) on X

@vtresports Since then they keep delaying our payment for everything I mentioned above without any explanation. @Mofa_ow @aleOW @D7mexxdxx1 @SaudieLeagues I want to get my money back and to get paid by Victory Esports as soon as possible.

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 4:44 PM

[static pond]

This guy pretty much called whoru a liar

https://x.com/vtrfraggy/status/1879224071701090430?s=46

Vtrfraggy (@vtrfraggy) on X

@whoru Elevate your mentality! You are a professional player, and such unprofessional behavior does not reflect the image we aim to see in the esports community.

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 5:48 PM

[glass sleet]

Thanks for posting these

[glass sleet]

Who is this guy?

If whoru is telling the truth and idk why he’d lie, he should get paid or call a lawyer. I hate when orgs don’t pay their players.

Also I don’t remember him playing. Did he play in stage 4?

[static pond]

Think this is for saudia e league

[static pond]

Sounds like a staff member or something

[static pond]

https://x.com/spacestation/status/1879634497819512937?s=46

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation) on X

The plot thickens | 1.18.25 🤫

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1879635884259291184?s=46

Overwatch Esports (@OW_Esports) on X

VERY ready for roster announcement season 👀

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 9:04 PM

https://x.com/timeless_ow/status/1879638831672242564?s=46

Timeless (@Timeless_OW) on X

Been a while.

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 9:16 PM

https://x.com/radesport/status/1879605735707099294?s=46

Rad eSports (@RadEsport) on X

𝐆𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐚𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐬..

Introducing Rad for OWCS qualifiers.

🛡️ @painkiller_ow
🛡️ @Zeb_ow
⚔️ @KronikFPS
⚔️ @k1ng_ow
⚔️ @peace7k
💉 @Lep_ow
💉 @zzz_ow_

#GoWild | #OWCS

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 7:05 PM

https://x.com/ntmrgg/status/1879641697896001906?s=46

NTMR (@NTMRgg) on X

Our sights are still set for the top...

Stay tuned.

#FearTheNTMR | #OWCS

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 9:27 PM

[glass sleet]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

[mortal cipher]

rn they are behind but if things continue its gonna be massive skill

[wise orbit]

fear the ntmr is actually kinda cold

[wise orbit]

i agree

[glass sleet]

You know what’s kinda funny?

The best EU team (imo) isn’t partnered.

Actually maybe they are the third org

[mortal cipher]

yeah i mean theyve only been a major region since the World Cup and it was crazy

[glass sleet]

It’s not announced yet

[mortal cipher]

which team is that???

[static turret]

Best eu team is tm ?

Right

[wise orbit]

tu i think

on paper at least

I think tu has better a better tank lineup and backline and I still think kev is a bit better than seicoe, especially with hero bans. Quartz no diffs kai tho for sure

though I wouldn't sleep on any eu team this year this region is stacked high key

[static pond]

Tu?

Oh nvm

Ya I agree

I think tm gonna struggle with a kr backline and hadi on tank

Since only 2 been on mix rosters with kr

Hadi struggles a lot as a solo tank

[glass sleet]

They only have irony

TM

[static pond]

Ya but I don’t think funny played with a kr before

There a duo

That my concern

[wise orbit]

I mean as long as they know english it should be fine no?

[static pond]

Ya usually but sometimes when thing get crazy people talk in there native language

[static turret]

I forgot about tu ngl

Didn’t he play with a kr support in Philly ?

[glass sleet]

Eu has the best kr coaches

[static pond]

Moon?

[glass sleet]

Crusty, and junkbuck

Each their own team

Bro why did they make it where you BAN heroes AFTER roster swaps

That’s stupid

That way you can ACTUALLY TARGET players instead of play styles

So fucking stupid

“Oh they banned maintank so chase can’t play but it’s fine cuz KSAA plays off tanks…oh wait. We have the tank but can’t play him”

[torn portal]

AAAAAAAA

👀

[deft marlin]

I wish NA cared about Esports more so we could get some real talent to stay here

Seems like they are competing for #3 every year

I’ll also never understand why teams go with mirror comps when both your mechanical skill and teamwork are obviously worse than the other team.

Like no offense to the Defiant but not a single player on that roster was better in their matchup to their counterpart against CR. By you going with the mirror comp you are basically saying “we are better than you in every aspect” when everyone knows they aren’t. Seems like they aren’t even competing for first place and just hoping they don’t get last.

It’s why I respect the shocks coach cause even though they didn’t win it all, they tried something different with JQ which showed they were atleast trying to win

Not sure how some of these other coaches even have jobs

[glass sleet]

Why does chrisTFer keep saying “this week’s tournament”?

What’s going on?

[wise orbit]

yeah swiss

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Overwatch_Champions_Series/2025/EMEA/Stage_1/Qualifier

[static pond]

Crusty was also the same coach that had max on mt

[mortal cipher]

Remember the Junbin Bap

[static turret]

Don’t forgot max on support

Or Smurf on mauga

Or Smurf on rein

Or playing happy on echo over his god tier flex dps

[robust patio]

no difference

falcons banning off junbins picks

but still lost

[static turret]

lol

If lip can actually play hs and the meta isn’t braindead

Then cr wipe

[robust patio]

Best Player for each hero
haz: junbin
dva: Bernar
doom: junbin
ram: Hanbin
rein : Donhak
ball: junbin
hog: junbin
mauga: hanbin
sigma : Max
orisa: Bernar
winton: Junbin
zarya: hanbin
queen: hanbin

[viscid hatch]

I’m sure you meant Hanbin for zarya, just watch out for max to be best hazard 😁

[robust patio]

oh shit yea

[wise orbit]

Rein is cloudy bro

[robust patio]

na

[wise orbit]

dongwho

[robust patio]

are u new to ow esports lel

[wise orbit]

No I’m just biased as a cloudy fan xd

[cosmic socket]

doesnt cr put max on hazard?

[wise orbit]

I’ve seen both

[robust patio]

but junbin is better

[wise orbit]

honestly anything junbin touches turns into gold

bro might be the tank goat

[cosmic socket]

true

i swear they put max on hazard tho

[robust patio]

they are both good

[sullen berry]

https://youtu.be/m0oN-MduxRQ?si=cA8N00nCwKVlabfw

Funny to see WhoRU returning to KR after the inevitable failure in the Pacific

[robust patio]

[late saddle]

BENAR

[robust patio]

yeth

[late saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/orisa-orisa-overwatch-i-love-orisa-ow-ow2-gif-13322196755346091259

[cosmic socket]

yep

bernar the orisa goat

[late saddle]

Fun fact

I diffed benar

We did an orisa 1v1, final destination, no items

[robust patio]

lel

[robust patio]

u didnt fight the real one

[late saddle]

Me↓

Benar↓

Im the greatest orisa (trust)

[robust patio]

its bernar

[late saddle]

2 legged orisa

[robust patio]

💀

[late saddle]

She looks sorta cursed

[mortal cipher]

i mean he made top 3 in pacific and about made finals

[static turret]

This is cool

[mortal cipher]

[static turret]

There’s 3 lans right ?

So one for stage 1,2,3? Then dreamhack?

World finals@is after stage 3 nvm

So is there no stage 4?

[viscid hatch]

Heesang venture and tracer compete with stalker easily

[torn portal]

the best doomfist isn’t junbin

donghak put real hours into doom

and he easily found the most success with it

i hope my goat gets a meta where he can show it off more next szn

[glass sleet]

Guxue

[torn portal]

i thought this was for the owcs season

overall yeah prolly guxue for best of all time

[glass sleet]

We talking about OWCS 2024 only?

[torn portal]

y

[glass sleet]

Than Donghak and Junbin I guess

[hazy marsh]

Someone over hanbin on ram

Wait 2024 owcs? What's even the point of that

Why would you talk about that over current best on eqch hero

In case it is best current then I'd also put d0ng for doom

[viscid hatch]

Junbin will overtake

[viscid hatch]

Let’s not forget guxues peak on doom was for a week in the apac playing against a weak dallas

[desert fractal]

whos the better genji, prime whoru or proper?

[robust patio]

i was considering donghak too but junbin better in big leagues

[robust patio]

proper ofc

[robust patio]

yes, this is true

[deft marlin]

I need what this dude is smoking

[robust patio]

although whoru created nano genji, i dont see whoru having Seasonal MVP OWL as genji

[deft marlin]

Saying he won OWL MVP is such a blanket statement. Bro is forgetting his Tracer and Soujourn usage

[robust patio]

the castors literally said he won cus he used genji in circuit royal

and proper even said irl he won owl mvp cus of genji

thats why many pros also use his genji skin

[deft marlin]

Just cause a castor and or player says something doesn’t make it true

[robust patio]

ofc u need to play other heroes like tracer and soj

to win an mvp

[deft marlin]

You made it seems like he won mvp solely cause of one hero like Jonak

[robust patio]

u saying ow league castor is lying?

[deft marlin]

It’s just his opinion

[robust patio]

jjonak did not use one hero

lol

[deft marlin]

No way we’re gonna talk about Jonaks Ana

[robust patio]

bro the castor is the organizer 💀

jjonak is a hog main lmao

[deft marlin]

Jonak def ONLY won that mvp cause of Zen

[robust patio]

bro does not know owl

[deft marlin]

Am I being trolled rn?

[robust patio]

hes a hog main from the start

he used zen cus

his coach told him to use mei and zen in ow world cup

and got famous for it

and started using it nyxl more

and dominated and got the mvp

[deft marlin]

So the season he won mvp, he mainly used Zen…

W troll

[robust patio]

prime whoru was when he was in Lunatic hai

[robust patio]

no lol

[viscid hatch]

Jjonaks ana was elite

[robust patio]

he used hog and mei more

and used zen and ana only in hollywood

[deft marlin]

It was good enough

[viscid hatch]

He played a lot of bastion as well

[robust patio]

and got double kill play against winton genji ult

[viscid hatch]

It was peak

[robust patio]

bro fr is new to ow esports

[viscid hatch]

I watched the whole nyxl season one last year and it was 75% zen 25% ana hog bastion

Maybe more 60/40

[robust patio]

his mei in anubis and hog in lijang +

his zen ult stopping rein dash in kings road

• zen 1v2 winton genji ult

[deft marlin]

Twilight>

[deft marlin]

…

W troll by demontic

[robust patio]

💀

bro probably dont know who zunba is

nor any old pros

[deft marlin]

🤓

[robust patio]

best genji of all time : proper

best genji rn: proper

[deft marlin]

Considering there’s 2 different games, saying a definitive all time is so crazy

[wise orbit]

super?

[robust patio]

nah

[robust patio]

proper bullied him lel

[hazy marsh]

WhoRU was the best genji during ow1 and proper is most definitely the best genji in recent times

[deft marlin]

I’m 100% fine with that statement

[robust patio]

in ow1 nag

nah

Arhan Haksal myeonghoon were top 3 rosters for world cup dps

and arhan haksal made it

id say whoru was top during APEX

[deft marlin]

I can’t tell when this dude is joking and when he is being serious

[robust patio]

i am being serious

[hazy marsh]

Early t1 ow1 players were not anywhere near as good as t1 late ow1 players

[robust patio]

u just dont know overwatch esports

[deft marlin]

(he is NOT being serious)

[hazy marsh]

Yeah

[robust patio]

arhan diffed whoru lol

[hazy marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jebaited-low-quality-bait-wavy-man-gif-26402013

[robust patio]

in 2016

[hazy marsh]

2016 weeheee

[deft marlin]

2016 was plumbers

[robust patio]

thats called early

[hazy marsh]

We werent talking about early

[deft marlin]

Plus wasn’t Whoru like 15 in 2016??😭

[hazy marsh]

We were talking about ow1

[robust patio]

even in ow1

[hazy marsh]

And ow1 goes until 2022

[robust patio]

prime whoru was only in 2016

lol

[robust patio]

ye and that was his prime

[deft marlin]

Hold on

[wise orbit]

bro peaked at 15 thats crazy

[hazy marsh]

I'm leaving this guy's pretending to be mentally deficient

[deft marlin]

I need to get a grasp on your opinions

[robust patio]

💀

[deft marlin]

Who do you think the goat of ow1 and ow2 are?

Tryna understand your thought process

[hazy marsh]

[robust patio]

genji?

[hazy marsh]

Yes

[robust patio]

Haksal for ow1 Proper for ow2

im not saying whoru is shit

he is up there in top3

also the creator of nano genji

[hazy marsh]

But you're saying his best understanding of the game was in 2016

[deft marlin]

Overall

[hazy marsh]

Which is a ridiculous statement

[robust patio]

2016~2018

[robust patio]

overall its proper

[deft marlin]

Whoru must’ve cooked this dude in his ranked match or something

[deft marlin]

For OW2?

[hazy marsh]

Players get better at the game overtime, so saying someone was better 2 years after the games release than 6 years into it is an absolute joke

[viscid hatch]

Shu>

[deft marlin]

For OW2 yes

[robust patio]

they age like ryu

[viscid hatch]

Yeah

[hazy marsh]

Ryu is 30

[viscid hatch]

Even in season 4 thouhj

[robust patio]

also he has military service soon

[deft marlin]

But Shu be looking like an Ana one trick these days ngl, his performance on other heroes looks kinda questionable

[hazy marsh]

Its different for players who still arent past 25

[deft marlin]

Bros Juno ain’t too hot

[viscid hatch]

Nah I disagree, it’s just Juno that’s bad

[robust patio]

korean players peak during 17~22

[viscid hatch]

Bap and kiri are elite

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its different in other countries

[viscid hatch]

Shu still peaking ong

[deft marlin]

OW1 Shu Bap will always be in my heart

[robust patio]

hes just different

no one can beat Shu Ana

[deft marlin]

Yea we’ll see once Ana gets nerfed🤷‍♂️

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best tracer of all time is SBB

[deft marlin]

Pretty sure she’s got the highest pick rate and win rate in the game currently next to hazard

Actually that’s wrong

[viscid hatch]

Okay it might be time to stop now bud

[deft marlin]

But she’s sitting close to it

[viscid hatch]

Lolll

[robust patio]

big boss pine

[viscid hatch]

Img

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u should see SBb peak

[viscid hatch]

I have

It’s saebyeoble running amok

[deft marlin]

Leave’s peak on tracer>🫣

[robust patio]

nah he aint beating sbb

[wise orbit]

Bro I can’t wait for stage 1 !!!

[viscid hatch]

Kevster peak on tracer> on god

[wise orbit]

So many stacked rosters in eu

[viscid hatch]

Bunny

[deft marlin]

Bro I hate this Kevster propaganda

[viscid hatch]

Kevster was elite in late season 4-5

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wow even google acknowledges sbb

[viscid hatch]

Like actually insane mechanical skill only stalker and leave reached on tracer

[viscid hatch]

Fleta was him

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yes

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stalker is current best

[deft marlin]

Fleta goat talk is crazy

[robust patio]

but he aint beating greatest of all time SBB

Fleta LIp dps duo was scary

2019 owl champions

[deft marlin]

Ngl I don’t even understand how that Dragons team even came to fruition

Who tf let that happen

[robust patio]

the korean world cup coach

pavane

lel

[deft marlin]

Team was dominant even with LeeJaeGon feeding every other game

He still my Lucio goat tho

[viscid hatch]

2021???

[robust patio]

Cr is basically overwatch world cup coach(aka shd coach) + kong + moon (both shd coach) + Lip(shd champion dps) + chorong( 2023 owl champion sup) + shu( best sup) + junbin max + heesang(best tracer attach rate in owl)

[robust patio]

might be yea, i forgot the dates

being in the navy made me forget things now

[deft marlin]

and still lost🤣

It’s ok tho once hitscan is meta they’ll sweep

[robust patio]

they won flashops and esports riyadh key

idm after all now

Cr and falcon will always be top depending on meta

[deft marlin]

Unfortunately Zeta is guaranteed third

Wish Viol2t could win one more

[robust patio]

falcon beating Cr beating zeta beating falcon

its rock paper scissors

viol2t smiling

[deft marlin]

he got money

[wise orbit]

did cr and falcons play each other at soop cup

[robust patio]

yea cr won

[wise orbit]

unc sparkle couldnt keep up

behind hjd is crazy though

[deft marlin]

I didn’t watch the SOOP, why did falcons come 4th?

Was there no loser bracket?

[robust patio]

cus they had chiyo fielder drama

[wise orbit]

stalker didnt play

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and it was cr meta

[deft marlin]

Oh

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cr is better

[wise orbit]

they had sparkle in

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[wise orbit]

yeah it was a better meta for cr too I think compared to stockholm

[deft marlin]

Mann this finna be annoying seeing the same 2 teams winning it for the next couple years

Leave and Guxue needa LOCK IN

(They aren’t locking in)

[robust patio]

they aint beating cr

nor falcons

[wise orbit]

oa was kinda mid at ewc

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well maybe falcons

they aint beating cr and zeta

[deft marlin]

These roster announcements needa come quick

Considering this shit starts in like 2 weeks this is lowkey unprofessional waiting this long to announce them

[viscid hatch]

Falcons must’ve slipped blizzard something because I genuinely can’t think of a better meta for them

[viscid hatch]

I don’t think they played eachother though did they? I might be wrong, but I thought it was hjd and zeta twice

[viscid hatch]

I think shy leave can match heesang lip and that’s all

[robust patio]

yea but support diff

[viscid hatch]

For sure

And tank diff, outside of Winston

[deft marlin]

Maneeeeee

[viscid hatch]

I wonder how lige will be

[deft marlin]

China gets separate slots for LAN right?

[viscid hatch]

Yep somehow they aren’t included in Asia

They could’ve included them and then made 4 slots for the whole of Asia, as it includes china, Korea Japan pacific

[deft marlin]

Ok well atleast Leave can make LAN every year now

[wise orbit]

I was thinking 2 na 2 emea 2 kr and 2 asia with china but this might be better honestly

[viscid hatch]

That is what it is yeah

[wise orbit]

I’d rather have zeta at lan than some mid pacific or japanese team

[viscid hatch]

Then cr falcons zeta and prolly OA make lan along 2 best na and emea teams

If you have more slots for eu/na it becomes less competitive because teams only have to fight for top 3, whereas they have to fight for top 2 and work harder

[deft marlin]

Who are the known Koreans that will be playing on NA teams this year?

Cause aren’t Mer1t and Someone leaving?

[viscid hatch]

Don’t know what blizzard were thinking with last years lan slots, did the opposite of equalising they regions power

[viscid hatch]

Rumours are knife and kellan

Kellan mid at best thouhj

[deft marlin]

Yea pack it up

Defiant beating Zeta will be the last time WE EVER see a NA team beat a Korean team

[viscid hatch]

Yeah

[deft marlin]

Lowkey sucks because I like supporting players I can actually understand

[robust patio]

defiant is basically a korean team too ngl

[deft marlin]

2.5/5

Lenny is half right?

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a korean tank alone itself is huge

[viscid hatch]

Not kellan though

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true

[viscid hatch]

I’d rather infekted or clear

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Someone Rupal and bliss dancing in korea

[viscid hatch]

Ask someone if shu is still on cr

[robust patio]

he aint telling

he himself doesnt know lel

[viscid hatch]

UGHHHH

I wanna know so bad

[balmy ravine]

Is the owcs games today ??

[wise orbit]

yee swiss starts today

[keen cipher]

what time ?

[weary scarab]

hope commanderx is co streaming it