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Any yappers?
hey does anyone know where to like get coaches to train for the overwatch esports?
when do i get into top 500? do you have to get a certain number of wins , because im masters and masters is top500 but im not listed
Yeah you do need a certain amount of wins, not sure how many though
Is there any information on when the ow_esport stream will be?
31st?
Toronto defiant left for 2025 cuz overwatch esports doesn’t have enough sponsors
750 lifetime wins in ow2 are necessary
25 wins this season
masters is top500? damn
people be easy these days
ntmr decimated exo
spoilers
but i new eclipse could never lose they’re too big to fail atp
You're not missing anything for the next 3 months, don't worry
lol
hehe
someone is so confusing as a name
why would falcons get shu when they already have the goat fs sirmajed
what team is stalk3r going to be on?
unknown
Isnt majed going back to eu
Wait nvm
stalker to na 🔥🔥
idk these are all rumors
I love how cr pretty much didn't change at all
Shu for fielder is damn near 0 difference
Do you want the best flex support in Korea or the best flex support in Korea
He's free from the binds of chiyo and his girlfriend
I like how people from asia can completely dominate
shu falcons rumour apparently a fluke
oh thank god if this is true
Ngl. On paper, CR got nothing but upgrade and falcons look worse.
So king is shu?
i figured the shu falcons was bull which means half of those rumored could be falso anyway
rn the two T1 coaches are the only certainty i think outside the rumored unless the merit someone is tru but half of this feels not tru and just a fan sign
also translation to post
" Comprehensive Korean Remaining Team Rumors "
Im just waiting for teams to actually announce their rosters. I’m tired of all these rumors.
Shu is still on cr as of the 9th
He was in cr cup
Fielder more flexible
But shu has a higher skill celling
I still don’t get why someone and merlt would go to falcons over t1
lol just happy Donghak is still in the scene
Maybe t1 didn’t send a offer their way bc they got better players on t1 already
Wait
I saw T1 got donghak nvm
Idk why then lol
is it possible that t1 didn’t get partner maybe
highly doubt

one might say that he retired to soon

Overwatch is the retirement game now
Overwatch is the game where retirement isnt an actual retirement
retirement home is full homy, now get back on stage old man
Hey uh does junkerqueen counter zarya?
Having to play with french people 💔 sending prayers
oof
Wouldn’t wish this on my worse enemy
The only reason that shu would go to falcons is probably because the money he was offered, I feel like if falcons were breaking up cr just win be default and there is no reason for shu to leave
How rich are crazy racoons?
Also according to the owcs Korea channels, the Korea open is happening right now, and if shu is still contracted to crazy racoons for their things, then he wouldn’t be on falcons right?
okay i got zero clue on where stalk3r is with this so that’s interesting
anyway
Falcon and Raccoon seem a bit more balanced, but leaning towards CR
T1 vs Zeta would be a big rivalry, but i’d be rooting for T1 personally
having a dedicated hitscan player is good but they lose the flexibility of having double flex
both are like that now
stalker to t1 would be cool but they seem packed already
Only thing is
wait
who you got winning, mer1t tracer proper echo VS lip tracer heesang echo
💀
lol
mer1t famous for his tracer skills
i actually really want t1 to cook, super glad they’ll be team skins too
hope these rosters are mostly accurate :D
I would hate to see shu on falcons but it's apparently a fake rumour
cr geniunely have like my favorite players in every role rn
i love shu and fielder equally
like my bap goat or my ana goat that’s unfair to choose
more like chiyo lost his carry….
Thats like exactly what I said
Thought T1 would get a stronger roster coming into OW
I mean who could they get
Someone merit, stalker, Fiedler, and some MS
I think I said this when they announced they're coming to ow they could never be a top 3 team unless one of the orgs implodes
the best hope was falcons but they just threw more money at merit and someone ig
they could get stalker maybe
There's a chance t1 had their roster built before stalker left
if falcons roster is true
Yeah there's a chance he's still there
I'm excited to see mer1t proper tho
stalk3r is the only person i expected to be with t1. Imagine proud stalk3r oooooooo
They can let go
Merit someone checkmate is a good trio
Who knows
idfk
@glass sleet hahah weren't u hating on mer1t before
They running low on tier 1 tanks
Genuinely a chance we won't see stalker anywhere
Still am
checkmate isn’t my goat anymore i fear
He never was
maybe he will surprise you
He hasn’t been on a top team
I hope so
Nah on mayhem i loved my boy
Hes a solid player but like he's never been a top 5 flex dps
Top 10 maybe just bc his flexibility
he’s defending the falcons practice building and all of riyahd from crime
he needs income to do this
not all heroes wear capes
Nah a player like him will get picked up
Im saying he probably won't play by choice
He’s gonna have the KSAA treatment
is esports a poverty career among top korea teams too?
But since he won’t play in Korea, that means he doesn’t have to wait for upcoming stage to play in western regions
I’ve always thought that
he’s the most valuable right now
Definitely is
proper maybe
just widow gapping quartz puts him ahead of proper in my mind
on top of cooking all season
Nah
Stalker is better on hitscan than proper
Stalker is truly the most flexible dps
This might be crazy but after season one it's not insane to say stalker is more flexible than proper
i've watched too little korean overwatch to comment on this actually
That’s kinda a compliment to Quartz too in a way lol
Stalker also has a crazy genji
Y’all don’t know but his genji in Dallas was nasty
Quartz is unreal
Best ashe this season
definitely
Genji is the one hero I think proper is outright better on
But stalker still has a good genji
Great*
Stalker is the better tracer echo without a doubt
not even an argument
Better widow, Ashe, tracer, echo, Cassidy.
He just is
either him or kev
0 comp for him
I thought we all agreed he was
idk
kevster had a crazy performance most of the year and we only really saw quartz at the start and end
i'll wait til next season until i make my opinion
Isn’t OWCS starting on the 31st? When are teams gonna announce their rosters jeez
Only TM confirmed theirs
quartz was dragging his sandbags to every lan
true
Kev is on the pop off heroes on the second best eu team. Quartz was alone. He literally joins a lobby 1v5
though ksaa played with them when they qualified for dallas no?
kevster is still up there
He helped them qualify then dipped
We gotta see what roster he gets on
ye
Hopefully the same one as masaa
don’t be like that
I’m hoping if it’s not a hard sym meta that seicoe plays the whole time
I'm a EU hater at the end of the day
you could make an argument that kevster carried his team too
cus you know massa is at mcdonald’s
though they had a better tank for most of the year
just cus you are retiring doesn’t mean he has to
compared to tm
Rumor has it he's still fishing
Even if that’s the case, definitely not as hard as Quartz.
Yeah vestola did just as much for ENCE as Kev did
They also had 3 dps players. Quartz was playing with one tricks
and kev definitely had moments where he lowkey was the reason they lost
Quartz is the best player in the lobby 100% of the time
Unless it's stalker on widow
U could say Stockholm but I mean they were just ass as a whole
yea
Kev on Mei ever
I didn't watch most of stage 1 i'll have to rewatch that
TM won with Quartz popping off o noj
really?
But tbh it was a team diff
I thought he was ok
What do you guys think of TM’s new roster?
Wait what's their roster again
Isn't it like Hadi youbi quartz astro
Idk the flex support
Quartz, youbi, seicoe, hadi, Astro, and irony
Oh yeah seicoe and irony
is irony good i haven't watched him play
Way better look now
i assume he is since he's korean
Uh he's ok I guess
Really?
stalk3r to gen.g
Idk about irony but losing bliss is tough
knife went to na i heard
He beat wac
Yeah but I'm taking astro irony over bliss mcd
TM still has one import slot so maybe they’ll get a tank
they will I think
Ngl tho
they said one guy is missing when they revealed teh roster
I take tvnt over Hadi
Is MCD that bad? He was ok not worse than Astro during stage 4
I mean he's a flex support so
it's more about if he's better than irony
And I don't think he is
I mean yes irony over MCD but bliss over Astro
Yeah but if losing bliss means ur backline as a whole improve you take that every time
And yeah I think TVNT isn’t worse than hadi
i knew hadi is kinda washed but this is crazy
If Lucio falls back into meta then the astro pickup is the best move of the century
But the question is, is the gap between bliss and Astro small enough for irony to improve the team? Bliss plays many heroes not only brig Lucio and he is great on those two as well.
yeah honestly
Only thing is double flex
I don't think their backline will be a problem at least
Also irony is kinda of a question mark cuz he hasn’t played since stage 2?
Astro is just ass on flex heros
I have hope
Tbh I think the roster might be worse
honestly astro irony seicoe quartz and a good kr tank will probably make them the best team in eu
I also just don't like mcd he's let me down too many times
I’m glad seicoe is there but eh idk
Besides his random wastage of ult he played fine
I think mcd will play in the second china team at lan
Eh
Nah
I mean it's Juno so I guess
It is 😭
He was so good during fuel
Yeah but not cuz of him
I feel like two guaranteed china slots at lan is weird btw
Im definitely taking astro on the Lucio tho 100%
I would much prefer they did 2 kr and 2 asia with china included in asia
The only side is flexibility
I wouldn’t
If irony performs then it's 100% an upgrade
Not taking the guy who's been the best Lucio in his region damn near since his career started is crazy
Wouldn’t wanna have Astro in a season with hero bans
fair point actually
its not so bad
seicoe quartz master class every game is needed
That’s not saying much for eu. And tbh, never thought he was the best. Just hyped up. Admiral imo is a better ms. Also a “mid” Korean Lucio is better than a “best” eu Lucio
is astro really that shit at brig
And bliss isn’t mid on Lucio
Yes
compared to other eu ms
Yes
It's actually crazy how bad he is at that hero
BRO
Bro is a Lucio mercy two trick
when does he play mercy
Back in the day
oh
yeah for hero bans bliss is just they was better option
and ur not gambling on a Lucio meta
Also hadi
I’m not saying he’s a rein one trick but
I don’t think he plays the same heroes as TVNT any better
he's not a onetrick but it is the only hero he's exceptional at
Also hadi can’t play dva
but i feel like he holds his own on other main tanks against other eu tanks
stockholm was fucking cursed though i swear
Tbh there’s nothing we can blame but their lack of skill.
yeah
ence too
Which makes it worse
but yea i still think he's decent enough at the ram and orisa
he's just world class at rein as well
so it kinda outshines his other tanks
sadly rein is pretty much never viable lul
Why did tm not get better players
They did but they didn’t
Hadi is a glorified otp
Seicoe is amazing
Astro is …
A Lucio otp in hero bans
U gotta flex support that ur pretty much gambling on (I'm all in on irony), a Lucio otp, probably the best dps line in eu besides youbi, and a rein guy
if it weren't for hero bans I would say the current roster with a good korean off tank would be kinda peak actually
maybe astro can redeem himself on the brig
Astro on the brig is Pge on flex dps
You have a 10% chance of getting good play
Irony is another Korean flex that’s hit or miss (the tm special)
pro league has hero bans now right
Yes
ocie has a good video explaining how it works if you're interested
ou i'll have to check it out
Ikr
Getting Astro when hero bans are a thing is not it
Juno
yeah juno or brig realistically

rupal is in korea
he be drinking soju and dancing with my friend
bliss was also there
rupal waking up and having breakfast with lip proper fielder
while vega has do scrims daily with infekted
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That is fielder
Graphic is sick
dang
this team is super deadly
i love it
If the backline pulls through sick team
ill be disappointed if they dont dominate eu
SRPEAKCHECK will dominate EU don’t worry (/s)
we got ksaa and twilight in the same team
dam
and kevster
Hey man, if this is what the partner teams are pulling
I can't wait for Liquid
no bestola 😭
Vestola is on another team, if I'm not mistaken
I'm barely keeping track this week, though if anyone was demanding it in #esports-news they should be reaching out to modmail
true if the rumor of that team is tru its gonna be kings of na like league lol
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@strong temple has been banned from the server.
test
yo can someone explain to me why cr and falcons are trading flex supports?
no clue
my theory
they both are basically peak overwatch history teams in the game
and see how games go by trading
Team issues maybe
Hadi currently scrimming Queens Gambit (CAH team playing later) if anyone interested
Chiyo and Fielder got divorced 😢
guys what is crowncup??
feilder prob got fed up with chiyo
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as of rn they since shu said he wasnt but we shall see if thats true or not but according to the CR tourney hes still on CR
havnt played overwatch in a while whats the esport status? is it dead or is it still continuing?
its dead
so it wont even be continuing?
do people still care for it tho?
The rumors on this team were kinda true
They were spot on
emea partnered teams are likely gen.g, tm and tu/vp right
Maybe
If TU is 100% accurate than maybe the other eu teams are true
it’s looking better
i’m optimistic about this season
we are getting team skins, rosters between regions seem more balanced as they get leaked more and more
i think its Gen.G Tu and Tm
idk I think vp is bigger org
now we wait for SKTT1
than which one???
but tu definitely has the more impressive roster, so maybe they are willing to spend more
than tu
maybe tu is big but ive never heard of them before lol
same
Heard it’s a Saudi org
That’s all I know
it is
what will be the final na org
pge zeruhh 😭
pge zeruhh scissors are all looking
Insanely massive pge sneak ☠️☠️☠️
Damn EMEA may be stacked tbh both TM and Ultimates rosters gonna go hard
I think Geng lowkey flop Magazine is not that guy
Praying they get another tank instead
gen.g should sign sparkr
Imagine going from Vega Rupal to bliss cjay
Actually
Nah idk
Cjay only noticeable hero is Juno
And she’s not meta currently
Bliss is solid
Just your average kr main support
Wrong answers only https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/1878497078445306318?t=-10Q1ZpYXzpNY-rvfpSWFQ&s=19
Blizzard finally announces the partner teams, and they’re Quick Esports, Gass T3 is Not a Job, Meavedron, O3 Splash, Amplify, Extinction, Hayabusa Gaming, Miku Fan Club, and FTG.
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are we getting the OWCS version of SSW and SSB
Man would I would love is a new "world's best tracer" in OWCS this year
imagine
just imagine Sbb came back
and dominated
holding lip heesang stalker on a LEASH

Peak
I think heesang was just as good if not better than stalker on tracer this year
Just realized the more Falcons win the more SirMajed becomes the "WhoRU'' of support.
bro contributed 1% to the team
The Batman of Riyadh
Why did NRG not get partner
org not big enough ig
Nah he's the team spirit, without him there they ain't win nothing... Saudi on tob
WhoRu actually contributed to a championship at least
saudi on tob 🇸🇦 🇸🇦 🇸🇦 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️
pretty sure chiyo played illari more than him this season
majed is the only guy I know who forces ZEN on the best team in the world
I mean he's played for like 5 mins
Atleast Zen is fun to watch, to me atleast
eh
💀
There’s like a contract for TM players to stream or something lol
Whoever joins TM starts streaming at first
Even MCD was streaming when he first joined
Yeah but that’s cuz you would swap to brig mid match
But nvm
So cr cup had like 100k views?
qlm and checkmate dangerous combo
Interesting
Weird team
Most random squad
Idk why tm dropped lbb instead of youbi shitty ass
i think rupal alone did more zen
cus toronto almost always did zen on kings row third
i saw it a lot
This is a weird ass roster
And why is junkbuck there 😭
Bro left the Korean team with Saudi money for less Saudi money and a worse team
Is this for eleague?
I thought lbbd7 retired
But it’s fine. We have seicoe instead
Wait this can’t be for eleague cuz they have more than 2 non Saudi
Also Landon avoiding playing in NA
Dude refuses to play in na lol
yes, but he's not on the best team in the world!
Was hoping junkbuck would go to zeta
oh wait someone already sent
Lmao I didt know which to reply too
I think lbbd7 landon and checkmate are good idk about the rest
Haku is yzns e kitten I'm pretty sure
Interesting
The third ( partner) is C9 ( Cloud 9 )
we don’t know actually
Youbi is on tob ig
Idk why Landon goes there though surely there is an NA team he can go to that would be better than that AI generated looking roster
Allergic to low ping ?
He can only play bap
So I mean
Who really wants him
Let me rephrase
His bap iş his only noticeable hero
True
For eu standard he can play flex
But his Kiri and Brig aren't bad
His bap is top kr level
For eu he is one of the best options
Even tho he isn’t eu
Though Ana/Zen I feel like he would be cooked in a meta with one of those
I don't think I've ever seen him play those
It's kinda crazy they got Skai in 2023 for Ana and Landon on Brig
I mean he plays Winston but you can't really play dive with Mei, Lucio and a Bap one trick
“Plays” Winston
That’s subjective
Is he the best eu Winston? Probably
But I mean
I mean he's got EU blood it is what it is
Is that saying much when your comp is chase and tjeomatic
İs hadi nice on the hazard?
It's kind of hard to be good on Winston when no team has the right players for dive
Apparently he's the goat
True
Interesting
They said he was the mauga goat tho
Like outside of that Lucio Kiri meta which wasn't even true dive he never got to go Winston
“True dive”
Really?
In the 2023 Winston meta Lethal and Skai were extremely fraudulent
I mean it's more of a rush/dive hybrid I think
Like the Lucio Moira Winston type shit but Kiri just replaced thst
Wait the new team has checkmate?
Lucio kıri was everything meta
Winston ram queen
Who’s the HS player?
You name it
And you had Reaper Soj rather than Genji or anything
ssg going na right
weird
They are based in NA I think
are they really
I guess they just wanted a roster that could win the region and Toronto were already picked up by that point or something
Any team with sugarfree is hitting #1 na
I think TM probably wins EU next year tbh
They should
refresher on the rosters
Was this confirmed?
idk
Geng are gonna flop and ultimates idk
someone just dropped it here no clue how valid it is
The eu teams are prob right
But the na ones are still being moved around prob
But if those teams are true
I don't have much interest in NA tbh
Na is peak ow
na gonna be competitive af
I mean
Nah
Just 2 teams
Sadly
Well
I don’t understand why scissor wasn’t picked up tho
Maybe a 3rd na team is on the rise
What other good players are in NA
rakattack cal pge scissors
ofc
this core could easily be a roster
uhhhh
fluffy dreamland roster was super impressive, all them
the only na players I know and respect are infekted and diddyfree
I didn't watch much NA last year really
I watched 90% EU but I think I will try have more interest this year in all the regions
tsm players could finally get signed to a major team
I only watched emea like first half then I started watching abit of korean too
I rooted for ntmr last season because they had infekted
if i had to think of making a roster of only na players that haven’t already been signed
or rumored
I'm not sure who to root for next season
cuffa raikker pge scissors ryan cal rakattack
if cal retires then give me squid
prolly
is uv signed
My London goats split
or rumored to be signed
i think
wait no ultraviolet has zero rumors
I think sparkr on rumored gen.g roster would be goated
Honestly idk how Kai is getting on ultimates over him
Magazine Crispy Khenail just doesn't seem that special really
topdragon can carry
I'm only worried about crispy tbh
okay new na roster
Cuffa Raikker/Attack (my two guesses for a major off tank)
Pge (mb) Scissors
UV Rakattack Cal
Dps i got no clue bro
Ntmr is still around but they don’t have partner slot
Honestly ideal scenario would be Sparkr stays with SSG in NA instead of Seeker but I doubt it
probably
there are just no leaks except “probably c9 third team”
Geng would make lots of sense I'm just not convinced in that team tbh
their cah team just won the championship I believe
Fl4k said so
gg
What are TM supports
backline is dodgy
sauna and topdragon are both great but they are also both fdps
okay we throw in a kr import dps and this could be a competitive c9 roster
idk about mag but he shouldn't be that bad
on trungs life
it’s so weird right?
I've seen Khenail cook a little on Kiri but don't remember much else about them. And Magazine I don't rate super highly. It would be carried by Sparkr and Topdragon probably
isnt mags hazard really good?
he beat smurf in hazard meta
idk i didnt watch soop
Neither
hjd beating falcons 😭 fight back bro
Didn't they have someone else in tho
Forgot who
this puts them in top 3
sparkle
Sparkle?
why were falcons so ass in soop
That was crusty’s final fuckass choice brfore he left
Geng could be good but also when TM and Ultimates look really good I think flopping wouldn't be a huge surprise
stalker didnt play
and they weren't THAT bad I think
my favorite teams aren’t in eu anymore and two of the signed orgs aren’t my favorite
ultimates i suppose will be my root
and also geng cus i’m a sauna head till i die
they only won against pokerface
I'll just root for Sparkr and if they aren't winning I'll root for Hadi and if they aren't winning I'll root for Landon
Too Spitfire pilled
just remember rooting for hadi now means rooting for youbi
sparkr probably on geng cus they are insane for only having flex dps
bet my bottom dollar
Landon team gonna be shit though I think
Yeah most likely
What is Sauna even there for isn't top dragon pretty flexible
like who invited checkmate
That's eSports now ig
on kevster’s life sauna has a better tracer than topdragon
I know saunas tracer is crazy but how is he on other fdps
He was on Virtus Pro right
What was stage 3 meta, they beat SSG but lost to ENCE. Don't remember anything else from VP
Sauna is pretty good though from what I remember
seems like ashe tracer or widow tracer depending on map
sauna just played tracer stage 3
SSG hard flopped stage 3
and they beat ssg
I'm excited to see more chase this season though
apparently he's not in ukraine anymore
hopefully
Is he even gonna get play though
hopefully he’s not airstriked to get delayed
Gibraltar only
he's probably gonna be their orisa and winston player
unless ksaa has a crazy orisa idk if he does
like ence try not to delay a match because a tank is absent challenge
qlm will be the next quartz
hes actually insane at hitscan
he's not in ukraine anymore
i believe
That’s like saying proud in korea will be the next LIP
like sure proud is amazing
but that is the goat
Tbh I don't remember anything from Quartz except stage 4, what was going on with TM in stage 2 and 3 even. Their roster was a mess right
I haven't watched qlm at all so I can't say
ksaas on ultimates?
for a saudi i don’t see how you could disrespect the best saudi player ever
not hyperbole no glaze
Sirmajed right there with his ring
He worked for that championship smh
majeds just happy to be there
19
2?
okay i thought he was still on mayhem season 6
i mean you could count world cup i guess he still won that
alqadsiah have players for the future. ziyad qlm tred. finally ziyad gets to play in owcs
Does Maka technically have a ring
I remember Mayhem signed him and said they were preparing him for 2024 💀
i’d say it has to be s tier playoffs win
he doesn’t
Wasn't he on the roster during then?
nah dropped before
i won’t deny, that team has……potential
you have to agree that it is a little random tho 😭
I presume it was just Checkmates only decent option
yeah of them are random but the qlm and those guys know each other
Or the paycheck idk
I'm surprised Landon didn't go to TM
what is this
hey he was fnatic forever
Is irony good I don't remember anything about him
I'll definitely be following korea more this year
I didn't take much interest in it last year because it felt like cr just dominated all the time
What is their roster rumoured to be
rn its someone Mer1t and the two coaches but frome the rumors they are above everyone else in Korea
i thought they were rumored to be on falcons
whi knows
bru can they just start announcing the rosters
is there way i can find to team comps played and the result that happened during Soop Cup?
Oh I just looked apparently Someone Mer1t Zest Viper Opener though no idea how accurate that is
i was guessing Viper was gonna be on the roster, but half are on HJD
Someone Viper probably cook
only missing a Flex Support is the problem
i mean Viper was cookiing on Shanghai Fnatic and HJD i mean man was the MVP when he took down Falcons
I don't rate Opener though
Hard to put that roster near CR or Falcons
There was some roster rumor someone sent here I'll check
Yeah that
he was the best off tank and second best tank overall this season idk why they wouldn't keep him
I assume Sirmajed is forced so you're basically forced to only have one tank now that it's limit 7
Someone is very flexible so it could make sense in that regard but at the same time idk
majed being on that roster is so stupid
having a dedicated hs player is good
I think both stalk3r and proper are just better than him really
Just
Put one of them as dedicated hitscan outside of double flex the whole year
I don't really like the limit 7 on a roster
I guess people will have to get more flexible anyways with bans but still
Actually now I think about bans I'm questioning how Funnyastro got onto TM lmao
I mean how many other competent eu ms players are there
His Brig kinda sucks
His Juno was ok
You're not wrong though i can't even think of another EU ms player
Admiral
they have one more import slot but i've heard it would be a kr tank
Heesung maybe?
Idk
wait I need to look this up because I don't remember where I read it lol
but yeah I think a korean ms would be better than a korean tank for them
hadi is somewhat flexible
even though he's pretty mid on most heroes
I mean he plays all that are relevant mostly
His Ram is good
Hazard he is apparently good at
his rein is world class but unfortunately he's not viable most of the time
Winston questionable but its EU and his Mauga meh
yeah his winston is dodgy but I think he would diff most other eu tanks on him
there was some guy here that said hadi was a downgrade from tvnt
Lol
Do you get summoned by the name Orisa or something
.... Uhhh no
This is you when you see Orisa mentioned
Btw what is it like being an Orisa player in ranked do you get people on the enemy team crying
The 'honourable' Rein mains losing to horse
I def think they are getting a Korean dive tank
They only have one Korean tho
Same
isnt that for TM?
yes ive heard one guy is missing
Yeah
they have Twilight Bliss no?
They are still waiting for one to sign the contract
oh im stupid thats the ultimates right
No
TM
They have twilight skai
oh its twilight faith skai
Tm has funnyastro and irony
They have one import slot available
The ssg core went to TM
Not very optimistic about it but I believe
Maybe they thought hadi is so experienced with TP plays that he would fit their play style
Being youbi a sym one trick
Crazy faith went from old ocean to TU
I mean Hadi is 2nd or the best EU tank it makes sense
Seicoe went crazy last year
Funnyastro already played with them and is a good option
Definitely not best
He’s no longer a Lucio one trick. He plays Juno Lucio now
Who is better? KSAA is the only one you could really say, they are both clear of the rest by a bit
what heroes is hadi realistically best on in EU other than rein?
Yes
Vestola
Ram, Orisa could be argued and he is just solid on most stuff
He is weaker on Mauga mainly compared to the others I think
Tbh idk where all the ksaa hype came from
Directly when bro left tm he suddenly the best tank in eu 😂
Owwc and then winning stage 1
But Youbi was with him for that so
We will see who is best this year I guess
Just didn't get to see enough of him last year but he's definitely a top tank of EU
No he’s been the best tank in eu for years
He was dominating EU in contenders, won stage 1 OWCS and was playing VERY WELL till he left
Ksaa hype been a thing
This shit ain’t hype
Eu tanks are pretty lackluster it’s not surprise ksaa is top 3
With such a successful year on racoons I don’t see why shu would swap especially now hero bans are a thing and buff their team
Majority of non Korean anything is lackluster
Dude he was legit “Korean level” off tank in stage 1
He just hasn’t been playing since
praying theres no cr roster changes so the potential 5 stack still makes sense
This is infact true
Didn’t shu and fielder change spots
Lol I forgot about that but oh well
I just found out I don’t have to warm up in Valorant
I feel like that's just made up tbh
Shu denied it; but it’s still possible
Ah
Apparently it was a credible source
But shu was also still in cr community tournament as Korea open was happening
Who ever posted TU before their announcement was spot on
It had Someone and Mer1t over Hanbin and Stalk3r also which idk
Imo fielder>shu flexibility but shu>fielder skill
i mean we attempted it at a huge lowpoint for ow
games stale plus everybody grinding rivals
Yeah I haven't been playing at all
Other top supports are flashy or make risky plays
So what? Being flexible isn’t a skill or something?
Shu is better at kirkiko bap ana zen and prolly illari, but fielder can match him on all of those plus he has a brig
But I feel like shu is shu
I would take shu in a mirror match on almost all flex supports part from brig
Shu is better in terms of skill at like his main supports that he plays but fielder has a better roster of heroes
Idk if that makes sense
Shu is only better on Ana bap tho
Arguably bap
Fielder and shu is the closest contest between two players IMO and whoever we one you choose is fine
Id say kiri but thats just me
I think his kirjko is better
Who had fearless
Faith my goat
In Kiriko meta no
Yeah but that was healbot op Kiri for ult and Shu was on glads
Yeah that was a product of Dallas getting perfect meta imo
That was “hello Kiri ult every 5 seconds” meta
Imo shu>fielder kiri bap ana which are 3 of the main meta supports but fielder has everything else
Shu Juno is highkey buns
I think fielder is the better player but shu is the better ana
He was commit on terrorist acts on Juno in owcs worlds
I get it
Just depends what meta I think
Both are mvp level
Yeah
I would take shu in most metas
Can’t go wrong with either
It’s just the weird rush metas fielder is better at
Which wouldn’t make his fit for crazy racoons good
Let’s get a zen meta
They are best dive
Let fielder cook
Shu is a good fit for cr
Look who they have
Yeah that’s what I mean
Ayo what about the team owners kid majed
Moon and his ball plays
…
Tbf
Majed is best eu support
Possibly
But hes stuck in kr jail
How long did majed even play last year
I mean he could've just joined TM surely
Early early owcs he played vs cr and zeta
And didn’t do bad
He had a 100% wr on circuit royale
He was the bap guy
But at some point it’s just not worth it
During Dallas?
Yea
Yeah he was looking good on bap ngl
Then they perma benched him
They had specific maps I guess and they never got played
Man EU needs an extra fsup
Getting paid like 50-60k to sit on the bench and get free winning that he’s carried to?
Him being in KR ruining rosters lol
These players don’t care about playing. Majed just gets a free salary
Falcons made like 650k this year
He’s getting THE BAG
Majed is just