esports-discussion

[torn portal]

that is the only part i understand

[thorny gazelle]

This is probably true but hard to confirm because china tries to censor everything

[glass sleet]

Idk. The players and who ever went last year said they had a great time. Everyone we nice to them and respectful.

[torn portal]

bring back owl sponsers verizon im begging you

[weary scarab]

It is a safe place to visit. But I agree that the country has valid human rights concerns like immigrants being trapped
There to worked and the death penalty for same sex pxuplws having intercourse so yes. Objectively both events would be bad held at those countries

[torn portal]

please

[stuck tundra]

This fr

[glass sleet]

Doesn’t china literally kill Muslims…?

[torn portal]

I see

[glass sleet]

They have camps and stuff

[stuck tundra]

No

They wouldnt just kill off random players who come

[cosmic socket]

yall are missing the visiting part

[glass sleet]

And neither would KSA

[stuck tundra]

They would

[torn portal]

Like this year is not a good year for lans 😭 one repeat two morally questionable ones

[cosmic socket]

china isnt just gonna snatch some muslim guy on vacation

[stuck tundra]

Since some players are openly gau

[glass sleet]

Fuck no they wouldn’t

[weary scarab]

no they wouldn’t

[stuck tundra]

Gay

Yeah they would bro

[glass sleet]

Lol no they wouldn’t

[stuck tundra]

They made fun of the world cup staff?

???

[glass sleet]

You can be gay

[stuck tundra]

It was live?

It was legit live

[torn portal]

Again i just can’t fucking speak in china safety

[cosmic socket]

you wont have to fear for your life if youre visiting china as a muslim

[torn portal]

I’ll do research later

[weary scarab]

You can be gay but u can’t like do romantix dhit in public like kissing I thing

Which is bad enough

Tbf

But not like just for existing

[glass sleet]

If they’re slaughtering them then I fucking hope they fear for their lives

[torn portal]

what if u have a girlfriend in saudi should i just leave her

[glass sleet]

They’re only safe in the big cities

[weary scarab]

They are way less strict

On lesbian couples

[glass sleet]

Public affection isn’t allowed in KSA. Not just for gay people

[torn portal]

why is it acceptable to be forced to hide these things just to see my favorite teams

[glass sleet]

Wow I guess she dodged a bullet

[stuck tundra]

True

[torn portal]

great now i feel so much better 😐

[stuck tundra]

What's age of consent in Arabia btw

Just curious yk

[glass sleet]

Hide? Idk but it’s not like you have to constantly shout “IM GAY” whenever something cool happens on stage.

[stuck tundra]

How old is it?

Remind me rw

Rq

[torn portal]

I don’t feel like arguing this much more

[glass sleet]

18?

[cosmic socket]

^^

this is going no where

[torn portal]

We’ve all agreed that saudi kinda sucks and lan’s as a whole this year isn’t great

like why sweeden finals again

[weary scarab]

It’s a country with a 99% of Muslim population with their own beliefs and own culture. I don’t really think we should force that country to change their laws becsuse other people in other countries want to because they are based on beliefs sharia, in islam and the people who live there like the laws in place

[stuck tundra]

No

[cosmic socket]

china and saudi both have human rights concerns but china is generally safer

👍

[stuck tundra]

^

I didn't see chinese players harass Saudia players in world cup ngl

[cosmic socket]

yeah thats why its a bad lan location

[thorny gazelle]

can't tell this, China even tries to hide the terroristic attacks that happen in their country from the news

[weary scarab]

Saudi Arabia has a higher safety index then china, lower crime rate then china

[stuck tundra]

Idk

[thorny gazelle]

so we have no idea whats really going on in China

[cosmic socket]

well yeah 99% of their population is muslim

[glass sleet]

“There is no age of sexual consent as sex is only permitted in marriage. The legal age of marriage is set at 18 years for boys and 16 years for girls. The national legislation does not provide for a close-in-age exemption.”

[stuck tundra]

Says something different from me in their website

[cosmic socket]

introduce lgbt people visiting for the lan and that safety index lowers quite a bit

[stuck tundra]

Country with forced child marriages is wild

[glass sleet]

Dude sex is not allowed outside of marriage for Muslims.

[stuck tundra]

Just saying

[glass sleet]

You can be 34

[stuck tundra]

Had bring this up

Forced

Child

Marriages

Is not as bad

[glass sleet]

?

[stuck tundra]

Being gay

LMAO

[weary scarab]

Are forced child marriages in the official laws

?

[stuck tundra]

Still common no?

[cosmic socket]

okay now we're just throwing shade

[stuck tundra]

They do it all the time their

?

[stuck tundra]

I mean they did throw shade at someone for being les

So

[torn portal]

ok i’m trying to be uber serious for this but like this is the dumbest message ive read in this chat since someone argued that heesang is better than proper

[weary scarab]

And Americans shoot each other like crazy

[glass sleet]

Marriage is not forced

[cosmic socket]

child marriages are bad but wont effect owcs tournaments

[torn portal]

truly

[glass sleet]

Oh no

[stuck tundra]

I don't use guns

But still Arabia will never be safe

[torn portal]

it’s really that bad bruh

[glass sleet]

You’ll never catch me shooting anyone in Colorado.

[weary scarab]

Arabia is safer then USA

In general

[stuck tundra]

LMAOO

[weary scarab]

Iraq has a lower crime rate then USA lmfao

[stuck tundra]

Why are we lying

Deadass

[weary scarab]

USA is a shithole

[stuck tundra]

Least they accept gay people

Lmao

[cosmic socket]

okay yall are just being political for the sake of being political

bad faith arguments

[stuck tundra]

I mean they did throw shade at mads

[torn portal]

We are straying from the topic

[weary scarab]

USA is still an unsafe shithole

[glass sleet]

A lot of gay people been to KSA and they’ve enjoy it there. It seems that they can enjoyed their time just fine. If you constantly have to mention your gay in a conversation than idk what to tell you?

[stuck tundra]

So why can't two guys be together in Arabia but be their in the us?

[cosmic socket]

china and saudi are BOTH not ideal lan locations due to their human rights concerns

[stuck tundra]

Make that sense no?

[cosmic socket]

👍

[glass sleet]

Don’t say that about my country

It’s so rude

[weary scarab]

Because it’s a Muslim country

[stuck tundra]

So not safe

[torn portal]

Good for those brave gay people that supposedly love saudi but every gay person i knows does NOT wanna go there 😭

[stuck tundra]

Answer proven

[weary scarab]

I’m sorry g this guy just annoying me

[stuck tundra]

You went out of ur way to attack ocie..?

[glass sleet]

It’s only the ones that never been that say it sucks but everyone that’s been said it was awesome.

[stuck tundra]

When they are openly trans..

[weary scarab]

No isn’t lol

Lemme show you what I got blocked for

[torn portal]

can we talk about like

[stuck tundra]

You legit asked if they would go to saudi

[torn portal]

roster leaks

or something

[cosmic socket]

bro literally no gay person wants to go to saudi

[glass sleet]

Nah fr USA is a shithole but don’t have to say it like that 😭

[weary scarab]

Tbf I was harsxh

But I didn’t atttaxk ocie lol

[cosmic socket]

liquid allegedly looking fire

[thorny gazelle]

For a small group of ppl it is much less safe, for most of the world its more safe

[torn portal]

is this replying to ocie and you got blocked for saying this

[weary scarab]

Yes, this is what I commented under her tweet and got blocked d

[torn portal]

or did other people

[torn portal]

her

[cosmic socket]

im really excited to see what infekted can do on liquid

[torn portal]

let’s not start that though

[weary scarab]

My bad

[glass sleet]

It seems they don’t care about what’s going on in china

[stuck tundra]

It's all Muslim country vs Freedom of choice country

[glass sleet]

Wait it’s confirmed?

[torn portal]

infekted sugarfree might be the deadliest team in na but bad for the sanity of lenny long term

[cosmic socket]

not confirmed

[glass sleet]

Who’s on liquid!

[weary scarab]

She literally only mentioned Saudi Arabia in the owcs tweet about china, Saudi Arabia and Stockholm so I got annoyed

[thorny gazelle]

USA has less freedom than a lot of other countries

[stuck tundra]

If gay people were safe to go to Saudia they would go no?

[glass sleet]

I mean ofc cuz she trans.

[cosmic socket]

infekted sugarfree and i think tr33 rupal and vega

[stuck tundra]

Okay so what less freedoms?

[weary scarab]

Yeah but I think it is important to mention the problems of all countries, and not only the country that affects her

[glass sleet]

Someone lied and said it’s dangerous but yes if they go and show respect to the culture than nothing bad will happen to them.

[weary scarab]

If she said china too

I would be perfectly happy

[glass sleet]

It’s the same as Qatar. If you show respect you won’t have any trouble

[torn portal]

She could have commented on it

[stuck tundra]

They wouldn't live their

[glass sleet]

World Cup I mean

[torn portal]

i understand

[glass sleet]

No one asked them to live. It’s for an international event. Everyone is welcome and safe

[torn portal]

But as a trans women uhhhhhh. Kinda hard to just stop being yourself for safety

[thorny gazelle]

your trespassing stuff is overly strict, youre drinking age is high (which is a good thing)

[glass sleet]

All kinds of people would be there

[cosmic socket]

china isnt a danger to visiting muslims like saudi is a danger to visiting queer people

[stuck tundra]

But they weren't respectful to broadcasters tho either

[cosmic socket]

thats the problem

[glass sleet]

Who?

[stuck tundra]

I mean would you want someone to just go in your home?

[weary scarab]

But china is an active danger for Muslims to live in tho, they are mass imprisoning Muslims for living in the country

[stuck tundra]

The Saudia team?

[torn portal]

I can not kiss a girl for a little bit i concede but the guaranteeing the safety of trans people in ksa is hard to argue

[stuck tundra]

It happened in 2023 cup

[cosmic socket]

they arent LIVING there theyre visiting

[thorny gazelle]

its not just home, if u accidentally get on someone elses land u can shoot them

[glass sleet]

What? What you saying now?

We’re talking about the players now?

[cosmic socket]

and culturally being muslim in china is more accepted than being gay in saudi

[weary scarab]

The country also has very limited freedom of ezprewsision of religion for Christian’s and Muslims visiting the country

[stuck tundra]

So during livestream one of the individuals made fun of the broadcaster for being trans who was Part of Saudia team

I thought Arabians were respectful no?

[glass sleet]

Who

[weary scarab]

Culturally yes, actually in law. Hell no

[stuck tundra]

Idk player but they got removed tho

[cosmic socket]

law dont matter if theyre visiting

its sportswashing just like saudi does with gay people

[weary scarab]

Law is def what matters if you are visiting

[glass sleet]

Wtf is that? Arabians? All of Arabians? Even the Christian ones?

[stuck tundra]

Just player

Christians didn't make fun of broadcaster just the Arabian player

[glass sleet]

I mean say Saudi if they are not Arabian.

[cosmic socket]

theyre gonna act friendly to high profile muslims who are visiting just like saudi would for high profile queer people

[weary scarab]

Straight up generalizing Arabs because of legendary lol

[glass sleet]

You say that like half Arabians aren’t Christian

[stuck tundra]

Well they were saudi

So why did they insult the broadcaster?

[glass sleet]

The guy said legendary and he’s not Saudi.

[stuck tundra]

If they are accepting people no?

[glass sleet]

Was it legendary?

[weary scarab]

I could bring up the same argument about other things. I would get banned for racism. It’s a typical pattern recognition dumb argument

One person did something wow

[stuck tundra]

He wouldn't be part of the team

[glass sleet]

Erm..yes cuz he’s not Saudi.

[stuck tundra]

Cause it was country individual thing

[glass sleet]

Wouldn’t be in the team to begin with

[weary scarab]

Legendary is from uae lol

[torn portal]

Bad argument it’s still avoiding the big picture

I thought we agreed

[cosmic socket]

this whole conversation has been bad faith

[stuck tundra]

Isn't that still part of them no?

[torn portal]

I’m done. I thought we all agreed that saudi is a questionable lan location

[weary scarab]

Yes but this guy is waffling about Arabs being not respectful

[torn portal]

i didn’t want to say anything more

take it elsewhere

[cosmic socket]

people who already had it out for china vs people who already had it out for saudi

this is going no where

[stuck tundra]

Yeah my bad

[glass sleet]

Tbh I could say the same for everyone else. We’ve both watched OWWC and EWC. Whenever KSA was playing, everyone would troll them and mess with them constantly. And then whoever would talk back for banned. Idc which side you’re on but that was immature.

[stuck tundra]

I just don't get the uh

[torn portal]

more importantly

asia gets 2 lan slots again

[weak frost]

can't wait to go to Stockholm again next year regardless

[torn portal]

👁️

[stuck tundra]

The broadcaster didn't do anything tho

[weak frost]

[weary scarab]

You just don’t understand that one person does not represent whole Arab population

[glass sleet]

Only reason we have overwatch esports is cuz of Saudi so maybe we see how it goes this year?

[torn portal]

lucky

[cosmic socket]

and na doesnt get any

cool

[torn portal]

but na gets one way more

[cosmic socket]

yeah but i live in the us so im biased

i want na events

[weak frost]

EU hasn't hadone before Stockholm for like 67 years

[torn portal]

https://x.com/laggyow/status/1874131921682522484?s=46

VP Laggy (@LaggyOw) on X

NA fans when they dont get a LAN event for one year after dominating the LAN market for the past eight years:

Twitter · Dec 31, 2024, 4:34 PM

[glass sleet]

My point is don’t judge all of Arabians on one guy and vise versa

[cosmic socket]

and preferably not in fuckass texas

[stuck tundra]

Makes sense

[glass sleet]

All of Asia? So once again not making it to lan?

[torn portal]

dreamhack dallas is a great lan what

[stuck tundra]

This what I noticed though

[cosmic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/pge-overwatch-contenders-awkward-pge-awkward-gif-12092077219031030375

[torn portal]

no china actually is a new region. China Asia Na Emea

I think

[cosmic socket]

i got called out..

[torn portal]

confusing to me

[weary scarab]

Stockholm is not looking good rn 😖

[torn portal]

China not part of asia basically

gets their own slot

[stuck tundra]

It took year later for Saudia to update its FAQ

[glass sleet]

HUH

china gets a free lan

[torn portal]

that food good tho

[weak frost]

yea was like -9 when I landed for dreamhack too 😭

[glass sleet]

Why…?

[glass sleet]

Fuck dude

[stuck tundra]

Can't lie ksa team was insanely goated

One of best teams tbh

[glass sleet]

I wanna go to Austin

I don’t like snow

Colorado sucks!

[weak frost]

other teams were also just worse that year tbf

Korea had a dive roster for poke meta

[glass sleet]

Hater

[cosmic socket]

snow seems sick

[glass sleet]

Hanbin, fielder the bal goat, and chiyo along with lip. Dive roster my ass

[cosmic socket]

ik id prolly hate snow if i grew up around it but since i didnt its really magical for me

[glass sleet]

YOU HAVE HANBIN AND TRYING TO TELL ME ITS A DIVE ROSTER??

[weak frost]

hanbin got Sig gapped by guxue he ain't allat

[glass sleet]

To look at but not to live in.

[glass sleet]

Have one winter in it and you’ll hate it

[torn portal]

here

new region with two teams competing for slots

[cosmic socket]

china getting two slots is a little crazy

[glass sleet]

So how many teams is CN supposed to have

[cosmic socket]

brother.

[glass sleet]

I mean since they’re their own region. They’re supposed to have 8 teams when they only have two teams good enough

[torn portal]

likely korean rosters will be made in china to compete. It won’t be just OA and some lesser team. HJD already competed in pro chaser for example

[stuck tundra]

What's cn?

[torn portal]

so it won’t be super low quality overwatch

[torn portal]

china

[glass sleet]

I hope not

Koreans playing in CN as imports

[torn portal]

#sparkit #primalblade

[cosmic socket]

anyways besides the lan locations owcs 2025 looking hype

[torn portal]

super promising

[cosmic socket]

fresh new na and emea teams

hero bans

[stuck tundra]

Who do you all think the best winston player is

[glass sleet]

I’m just waiting for the roster announcements

[torn portal]

also does this mean china will get partnered skins?

[stuck tundra]

I'd say fearless in my pov

[torn portal]

idk

[glass sleet]

Fearless

[cosmic socket]

looking like it wont be mauga slop

(fingers crossed)

[glass sleet]

Nah hazard too broken

[torn portal]

of all time? fearless. right now? junbin

easily

[glass sleet]

Idk why he’s not nerfed yet

[stuck tundra]

Emeng is better then junbin on the ball tho

[cosmic socket]

hazards fun to watch in pro play

[torn portal]

come home my glorious king

[glass sleet]

But he’s so frustrating in the game

[weak frost]

once again is very strong, plus there's whatever team lengsa and jinmu build with potentially imports too

[glass sleet]

Lengsa?

[stuck tundra]

What team is pge in what region is what I'd say

[glass sleet]

He’s still playing

[torn portal]

former shock/oa

[weak frost]

yea but he's not on oa

[cosmic socket]

i think pges team got announced

i forget

[glass sleet]

He wouldn’t leave NA

[stuck tundra]

I saw Sumn about dragons

[torn portal]

got kicked off oa for assault allegations and replaced with yveltal/xerneas/mee

[weak frost]

didn't pge retire

[glass sleet]

A team called dragons?

[weak frost]

https://tenor.com/view/we-scrim-sheffield-gif-23283042

[glass sleet]

WITH 3!?

[torn portal]

he’s NOT on sheffield dragons 😭

[stuck tundra]

Who didM

?

[torn portal]

nah yveltal is just addicted to name swapping to different pokemon

[cosmic socket]

nvm it hasnt been announced

[glass sleet]

I thought he was texting minors

[torn portal]

idk he just gone

[glass sleet]

Oh it’s just one guy with 3 names

[torn portal]

mew is better anyway imo

lengsa was never the star player for spark

[glass sleet]

I hope he’s better than a one trick yes

[stuck tundra]

Who isM

[torn portal]

yveltal

[stuck tundra]

I do miss owl

Wish never the allegations came out

[glass sleet]

It’s gonna be T1, Falcons, and Crazy raccoon for org partners in Asia right?

[sullen berry]

I downloaded the recent CAH finals to watch offline and I have never seen more mauga gameplay that was more deserving of a ban system

[glass sleet]

CR over Zeta

I don’t think I’ve seen CR in other games

[sullen berry]

Then team liquid and cloud9 for NA and Virtus.Pro and Twisted Minds for EU

[torn portal]

if cr doesn’t get a partnership there will be riots in the streets of midtown

[glass sleet]

Twisted minds and GenG

[stuck tundra]

That's funny

Cloud 9

Is coming back

[glass sleet]

Zeta can just pick them up

[sullen berry]

That's all the partner slots

[stuck tundra]

They started the c9 term too

[glass sleet]

Did you see c9 c9 in Valorant?

[stuck tundra]

They did it val too?

LMAL

[glass sleet]

YES

they killed everyone and forgot to defuse the spike

[stuck tundra]

History repeats itself Lmao

[glass sleet]

They lost the round

[stuck tundra]

LMAK

[torn portal]

I bet cloud 9 (c9) would love to pick up the shock roster then!

[glass sleet]

Cuz dude was standing up yelling

[stuck tundra]

Smartest team ever

[sullen berry]

their former cloud9 players never left overwatch

Obviously Liquid would have never been interested either

[glass sleet]

Isn’t c9 spitfire?

[torn portal]

only real na heads get this one 🚬

[sullen berry]

Maybe when they saw FNATIC make a comeback did Liquid have a chance to come back with a really good offer to join OWCS

[stuck tundra]

Who was better team

Dragons or shock

[glass sleet]

Liquid is just a giant org

They just had to say they’re back

And they got a slot

[sullen berry]

I still think about the c9 run by London Spitfire a lot. Here's a throwback for you

[cosmic socket]

im really hyped for liquid

[sullen berry]

https://youtu.be/2DAwsg-5iiU?si=Cw6D2n3z4085pmv4

[cosmic socket]

call me an na dickrider but i think they could hold a candle to kr if theyre leaked roster is real

[sullen berry]

When Monte still had good things to say about Overwatch 2 before launch

[sullen berry]

Liquid is rumored to have Pelican and Tr33, probably the best I've seen on paper

[torn portal]

two is a bigger number then one i think

so shock

[weak frost]

ultimates and TM could slap NA icl

[cosmic socket]

tm keeping youbi bruh

be real

[torn portal]

sugarfree vs pelican again

[sullen berry]

I'm genuinely uninterested in NA and EU even less because I enjoy my sleep

[weak frost]

backup sym player 💔

[sullen berry]

But If Team Liquid delivers and it's not another Luminosity-tier fallout with their star player, we're looking good

[glass sleet]

Riding hard

[sullen berry]

Wouldn't have it any other way

[torn portal]

striker situation where the coach just wants him on payroll, he has dirt on TM org, or they actually are that delusional to keep youbi

[cosmic socket]

i will say i havent seen the ultimates roster

[sullen berry]

M80 should hopefully be able to pay their players long after they left the org over genuine blizzard esports failures to pay the team

[weak frost]

ksaa kev Kai twilight skai

[cosmic socket]

ksaa kev...

[sullen berry]

We could of had NRG Shock striker for the meme, but honestly he's not going to just get it handed to him like previous years

[cosmic socket]

this may cook

[torn portal]

that’s like a hitman coming back for one last job but instead of being like 50yrs he’s actually 80

[sullen berry]

Striker would have better chances applying for McDonald's than NRG Shock with how he expects not to play in trials if old rumors still hold

[torn portal]

skeleton on the roster

[sullen berry]

Like if peak striker was dominating on tracer 3 years on, most NA teams would do anything for a guy like that

But bro is a menace when it comes to defying coaches, like on Boston Uprising for the third time

Does anyone expect and ENCE roster to return?

[torn portal]

leaked photo of once again scrimming (no flame)

[glass sleet]

Their roster? No

The org? No

[rugged quest]

Ves is with vp, kai kev and skai with ultimates and kellex probably retired

[lucid brook]

marvel rivals is better

[torn portal]

marvel rivals as an esport has big competition

entertainment wise

[fair hound]

somewhat maybe, but i also think it’s too early to say definitely

depends a lot on the support they plan to give it

there’s definitely some potential

[torn portal]

also consider that blacklist is definitely baiting

but from a raw esports perspective rn definitely too early

[fair hound]

ah i didn’t read their message

[torn portal]

if we’re frfr

[modern dragon]

oh

thank you

whoever got rid of all that

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[stuck tundra]

NTMR dominates in rivals

[modern dragon]

I need NRG to step it up😭🙏

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[sullen berry]

In overseas news, Chinese Overwatch is doing a technical Beta

Consider it the official relaunch coming up while China has their own OWCS region competing on LAN in April

[mortal cipher]

niceu

[sullen berry]

Check out the hazard clip over in China https://youtu.be/_fiDBjCm5Tw?si=XM4T6ulf1IfpcZH5

[sullen berry]

I'm seeing some promising gameplay, but what on earth is banning cassidy AND ball doing

https://www.youtube.com/live/KpUPH55QTkw?si=BRDUfsJzqFoDWyeC

[mortal cipher]

Lo

[neon dome]

Hey everyone when does the qualifier for owcs start? I know it's this month but anyone know what day/time?

Also, anyone know if chinese teams will be able to play? I want to see hangzhous roster play together so bad lmao

[sullen berry]

The rebuilt ex-Spark roster was playing like 2 hours ago at the link above lol

China doesn't use Faceit, I've been spending time in China to find out online what they're being told about signups but I don't follow the scene that closely.

Apparently they're opening an OW2 technical Beta this weekend for Mainland China now that Blizzard renewed their deal with NetEase Once again

[neon dome]

Wait they can still play? I don't keep up with anything other than owcs and owl but I had heard that chinese players just weren't able to play at all. That's not the case then?

[neon dome]

my bad didn't scroll up at all lmao. So is this confirmed, like they'llactually be playing in april?

[sullen berry]

They'll have to go through OWCS China's qualification system, which is unclear how it's being done atm.

But you can bet Once Again who played last year at Esports World Cup will make it out.

China's anti-addicition policy for videogames who are under 18 along with the game being unavailable for 1-2 years (unless you use Steam for OW2) really stifled the number of upcoming stars from the region. No other tank player (or pharah as of today) comes close to Guxue

https://tenor.com/view/guxue-hangzhou-spark-guxue-hangzhou-spark-hangzhou-spark-guxue-winston-gif-17970897405899525264

[sullen berry]

More info #esports-news message

[balmy wolf]

I miss the Dallas Fuel the greatest team ever

[sullen berry]

Classic Josh Dickrider comment

Does this automatically make you a Falcons Fan?

or are you missing the Fuel skins

[balmy wolf]

I don’t watch any more pro OW. They destroyed the pro scene. Without Dallas Fuel there’s no pro OW

[balmy wolf]

Yes I miss owl tokens and using loot boxes for skins. Blizzard has taken all of it away

[mortal cipher]

I think
They are still in the shop

[balmy wolf]

is it safe to go in korea in 2025 because of martial law

[sullen berry]

Wasn’t that the same Martial law was overturned within 24 hours?

[sullen berry]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/south-korea-president-yoon-suk-yeol-impeached-resist-arrest-martial-law-4834556

If it’s the protests that you’re worried about, let’s hope the place that you’re staying at isn’t alongside the presidential residence

[echo rampart]

https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/1875209651119403501

ben 🧚🏻‍♂️🦐 (@achtungbabeyy) on X

In addition to Twisted Minds and The Ultimates, the following Saudi Arabian teams are attempting to build EMEA rosters for #OWCS:

⚽️ Al Qadsiah
🐦‍⬛ ROC Esports
♾ R8 Esports
🗼 Victory Esports
👁‍🗨 Vision Esports
⚡️ Thunders

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 3:56 PM

[torn portal]

https://x.com/onceagainow/status/1875220106206421181?s=46

Once Again Esports (@OnceAgainOW) on X

Our flex DPS Leave is sick, and our other flex DPS Lilko kept getting disconnected from the game. Fortunately, we had a solution.

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 4:38 PM

Uhhhh

[sullen berry]

There is nothing with that photo

Their closest to a loss on a clash map while life is doing crazy things on hazard

[torn portal]

ew

guxue’s new passion?

[sullen berry]

Lilko was Leave’s sub, but he kept disconnecting from the servers (might be indirectly related to the anti-addiction policy for players under 18) and guxue had to fill

https://x.com/ememerali/status/1875215780092256573?s=46

Emerali (@EmEmerali) on X

Guxue likes to talk about how he was a 5000 SR Pharah in OW1. He finally got a chance to play Pharah in an official game due to Lilko's unstable internet connection and Leave being hospitalized.

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

[mortal cipher]

Guxue flex

[static pond]

I don’t think the protest is bad

Owl players been there

[weary scarab]

https://x.com/COWinARABIC/status/1875317690648482302

Competitive overwatch in Arabic (@COWinARABIC) on X

🚨🏆 وفق مصادرنا :

فريق النصر السعودي لكرة القدم هذي السنه له نيه قويه بالدخول الى منافسات Overwatch 🤯🔥

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 11:05 PM

if this actually happens they will take over whole esports scewne

[mortal cipher]

the Ronaldo Team???

[pastel dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/siu-ronaldo-siu-cristiano-cristiano-ronaldo-siu-meme-gif-24574747

[viscid hatch]

Real

[wise orbit]

I read the first team as al qaida lol

[sullen berry]

That's because they're locals. People visiting Korea won't know the areas to watch out for potential violence on the streets and will usually be in busy/public areas

Otherwise I wouldn't see Korea as a generally dangerous places that keep getting talked about in this server.

[torn portal]

is this proof that china is an unserious region or that guxue is a secret hyperflex demon

[weak frost]

both

[mortal cipher]

To both because on one hand China hasn’t has servers since 2022 but Guxue / Once Again is the only team that competed against other regions

[sullen berry]

Guxue the flex god since dps doom https://youtu.be/uBpxy3riaZ8?si=D1Hvc94gL8EiatAx

[thorny gazelle]

He prob leaves in July but ye

[rugged quest]

Pokerface farewell faith, proud and choisehwan

[torn portal]

proud free agent 👀

[torn portal]

okay first roster reveals yall 👀

https://x.com/twisminds/status/1875591833205805512?s=46

Twisted Minds (@TwisMinds) on X

موسم جديد و طموح متجدد 🫡🩷

فريق تويستد لأفرواتش مستعد لمنافسات موسم 2025 🧠

🛡️@hadi_ow
⚔️ @Youbi_OW
⚔️ @owquartz
⚔️ @seicoeOW
💉 @FunnyAstro
💉 @OW_irony

#TwistTheGame

Twitter · Jan 4, 2025, 5:15 PM

[weary scarab]

Damn

where is shlonghak

[torn portal]

maybe on ultimates or something

he could truly be anywhere i got no clue on the kid

[echo rampart]

Yoooooo

[mortal cipher]

tru

[mortal cipher]

ah i see

[wise orbit]

why keep youbi

[cosmic socket]

youbi gotta have dirt on the tm management or something

[glass sleet]

Eeeeeeerm….YAY!! Erm…..

[glass sleet]

Lol or his dad is the owner

[glass sleet]

Tbh. Outside of Quartz and seicoe, the roster kinda shit.

[wise orbit]

funnyastro is good

[glass sleet]

No he’s not

[torn portal]

hadi seico funnyastro already have synergy for being on a roster together for so long

[wise orbit]

how

[torn portal]

name 3 other eu main supports

hell 2 other

[vernal shoal]

galaa

[torn portal]

galaa kellex

uhhh

crispy?

funnyastro at minimum the second best ms, galaa can be argued

hadi is still a good tank. IMO chris theory was the biggest reason why ssg failed not any specific player at stolkholm

don’t flame my king

[wise orbit]

idk

I feel like the only hero he is exceptional at is rein and rein doesn't get that much playtime anyway

[glass sleet]

Admiral is better than funnyastro

[wise orbit]

okay

[glass sleet]

Funnyastro is a one trick Lucio and he’s not like so good that you want him on your team

He’s such a HUGE downgrade from bliss

[glass sleet]

What’s his theory that failed them during their best meta for them?

[torn portal]

it’s just ChrisTheory

[wise orbit]

no the theory was fine they just couldn't execute on it like toronto

[glass sleet]

Admiral, galaa, and then maybe Astro.

Tbh i woulve been fine if it was donghak and hadi but just hadi is a problem

[torn portal]

i think indivually they were all good it’s just that idk

maybe their mic’s were swapped out with tin cans in sweden

[wise orbit]

kings of macro btw

[rugged quest]

goes to school in NA

[rugged quest]

i mean shit admiral is kinda in the same category

[glass sleet]

He’s still eu. No one said he had to be in eu

[rugged quest]

He is european yeah but its not feasible to get him

every western ms has flaws

you wont find a strong brig player

would have to import and the other tm import slot is still open

[glass sleet]

I’m just sad they let bliss go.

It’s funny too. Bliss leaves and irony joins. They played together

[restive shell]

It’d be funny if they brought back goats (:

[deft nacelle]

are we getting OWCS skins?

[mortal cipher]

i think thats what the partners are for

[mortal cipher]

so if i have of them correctly at least for the 3 main regions it goes as follows

NA Team Liquid, ( TL ) Cloud 9, ( C9 ) ,and Space Station Gaming (SSG )
EMEA / EU Twister Minds, ( TM ) Team Ultimite, ( TU ), and Gen.G Esports ( GenG / Gen )
KOREA Crazy Racoons, ( CR ) Team Falcons ( TF / FAL ), and SK Telecom T1 / T1 ( SKTT1 / T1 )

Japan and Oceania and China i am unsure if they get any especially China since they were just announced to come back
Japan may, but
Pacific and China unsure

[torn portal]

china gets 2 whole lan slots

wouldn’t it make sense to offer partnerships to china

[weary scarab]

i think they are getting another korean tank

[mortal cipher]

if they do i would imagine Shanghai and Hangzhou maybe but not likely so my guess for china would be

China BiliBili Gaming ( BLG ), Weibo Gaming 9 ( WBG ), and Once Again ( OA )

unless one of the owl teams come back whcih is possible but highly unlilkely

[torn portal]

oa skins please

[mortal cipher]

i would guess that would the obv one the rest are who knows

[deft nacelle]

Any idea when these skins drop?

They're replacing OWL tokens right

should be the same price no?

wow can't believe they cucked NRG and Toronto like that

[cerulean crescent]

I think Toronto has a whole new branding or something like that going on

[torn portal]

hopefully cheaper lmao

but

we should also get them for watching streams 🙏 please

[mortal cipher]

that i am not sure about, but i would imagine when they do they would replace where the owl ones are

[mortal cipher]

Toronto makes sense but im suprised they went for SSg instead of NRg at least for the partner teams because ssg could still be team just not partnered

[mortal cipher]

like we always did i had like 7500+ saved up from like 3+ years

[uncut spade]

owcs does anything but logical decisions

[sullen berry]

It's always one good thing that they will do (partner program) for the select few that will always have people complaining how it's executed, no matter how they do things

So people are going to scrutinize how Blizzard esports has always done things, whatever it used to do how they'll do the new thing wrong

[pearl mantle]

[untold pilot]

Kraandop will join as tank

Trust 🙏

[sudden widget]

Hi

[viscid hatch]

Heesung to falcons?

[mortal cipher]

possible

[sullen berry]

https://x.com/joakelly_kr/status/1875980303984210076?s=46

JoaKelly (@joakelly_kr) on X

Had so much fun with @PELICAN_75 and @jakeow 🤗

Twitter · Jan 5, 2025, 6:58 PM

Former Enligh tutor during OWL meets up with Korean god at dps.

While the other dude is Pelican.

[hollow thorn]

BRING BACK THUNDER DOOM

[mortal cipher]

lol

[static pond]

Don’t think so apparently moon wants to run it back with the same roster

Not surprise he likes working the same players

[viscid hatch]

Moon is with crazy racoons

[static pond]

So is heesang

[viscid hatch]

I said heesung

[static pond]

Ohhhh

[viscid hatch]

Anyway thank god he wants to run it back

[static pond]

Oh I’m thinking falcons too

[viscid hatch]

Crazy racoons the goat

[static pond]

Idk what zeta gonna do

Without a mt

Someone is apparently going to t1

[viscid hatch]

Who else is us going to T1

[balmy wolf]

Me

[hybrid hollow]

Bernar held it down for one season he can do it again

[rugged quest]

smurf retired so no main tank if they run it back

[mortal cipher]

Yeah but it looks like they might fall a little

[rugged quest]

https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/1876296594276139047

ben 🧚🏻‍♂️🦐 (@achtungbabeyy) on X

Vortex Wolf have registered for OWCS Japan with their full roster, which includes OWL 2022 champion Edison, OWL tank Kalios, and former NYXL coach Undine

Twitter · Jan 6, 2025, 3:55 PM

https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/1876296596276854825

ben 🧚🏻‍♂️🦐 (@achtungbabeyy) on X

Their full squad, as of right now:

⚔️ Rrmy
⚔️ Edison
⚔️ aokigahara
🛡️ Kalios
💉 Sakume
💉 kiru01

🧠 Undine
💼 L1NXs

Should be a top 4 team in Japan at minimum.

Twitter · Jan 6, 2025, 3:55 PM

[glass sleet]

So we only have two confirmed rosters?

What do y’all think of TM’s roster? Tbh I think it’s worse than their roster end of 24. I guess irony over MCD but we haven’t seen him play in so long right? Hadi is maybe slightly better than tvnt but I don’t really believe that at all. Bliss is better than Astro. Only upgrade is having seicoe

Maybe TM is still planning on getting a Korean tank?

[mortal cipher]

Tbf tvnt came in half of the year

[static pond]

https://x.com/yjw891213/status/1876321734892347564?s=46

Yjw1213 (@yjw891213) on X

FTG
Head Coach : X
Coach : A1M, Dongsu

DPS : SeonJun, Prophet
TANK : HEESUNG
SUP : Vindaim, vigilante

source : waragg

Twitter · Jan 6, 2025, 5:35 PM

I love the caps on heesung name

Less confusing

[static pond]

Think your right

[glass sleet]

Yooooo vigilante

[glass sleet]

Tvnt is better on mauga imo, dva, and sigma. I think they both have a decent ram tho. You’re giving up a tank that can play dva for one that can’t and kinda also sucks on winton

No disrespect to hadi ofc

I’m worried TM might become a rein one trick team playing rein sym.

[glass sleet]

Glad to see vigilante is better.

[mortal cipher]

Maybe attack for the off-tank
But I do think if tvntwas there longer tm would’ve done better than they did in the season

[glass sleet]

Is attack a free player rn?

Tbh I think TM would look way better if they had donghak and hadi instead of hadi and attack

You need a tank that can play heroes that hadi don’t

Imo. TM’s roster looks worse but I’d love to be corrected.

[glass sleet]

Is this from the gamer? Is zeta still an org in OWCS?

[hollow briar]

How do I buy a league skin if tokens can’t be purchased

[viscid hatch]

You can’t

[torn portal]

do you have any remaining tokens?

cus that’s all you’ll ever have

[sullen berry]

https://tenor.com/view/swiper-dora-the-explorer-laugh-youre-too-late-fox-gif-17486130

it's just a viewing gallery now

they promised to convert your remaining tokens into one of the usable currencies. They have yet to explain into what and how much it's worth since they don't want people hoarding tokens unlike the OW1 legacy coins we have in ow2

[sullen berry]

Completely separate FTG from the one that got signed as .

Seems like the remaining players that didn't make it onto HJD after runaway disbanded and didnt find a home on better teams during stage 2 asia, which screwed a lot o players out of contention from Korea.

like how did Old Ocean with ryujehong's team get into the regular season and manage to bring zero game into the playoffs/regular season.

[mortal cipher]

Unless someone picked him after Shock dropped everyone

[grave python]

Chat which team has the best jersey ?

I'm thinking about ordering one

[cosmic socket]

some nice artwork done of overwatchs return in china

[glass sleet]

Do you think more Koreans would find more time by playing in Chinese rosters?

[glass sleet]

I think the TM baseball jersey they had during EWC was amazing.

[sullen berry]

Sure but that's why you had TOPDRAGON playing in both an OCE team in EWC and an EU for most of OWCS.

Korean imports are vital but now when they're on ping and your teammates arent on the same level as them, it limits how much a Korean is willing to play on a NON-KR roster.

WhoRU's team Full House in the Pacific came 3rd and they even forfeited their Last Chance Qualifier into OWCS Asia because they weren't good enough without him and players who can't commit to going pro full time

[viscid hatch]

I really want to get a crazy raccoons one, but they are always sold out and I don’t kn ow when they restock

[mortal cipher]

[late saddle]

Cool art but its missing an orisa

[torn portal]

other chats so dead you went to esports? 😭

[torn portal]

i always loved toronto merch- oh………….

yeah crazy raccoons probably the next best

[late saddle]

No

I just looked at esports

[static pond]

https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/1876296596276854825?s=46

ben 🧚🏻‍♂️🦐 (@achtungbabeyy) on X

Their full squad, as of right now:

⚔️ Rrmy
⚔️ Edison
⚔️ aokigahara
🛡️ Kalios
💉 Sakume
💉 kiru01

🧠 Undine
💼 L1NXs

Should be a top 4 team in Japan at minimum.

Twitter · Jan 6, 2025, 3:55 PM

[torn portal]

how is unc still getting on rosters

[last kelp]

Kalios????

[slate pine]

Wait have there been any owcs games yet or am i late to the disscusion

If so how is it looking like

[glass sleet]

31st

[slate pine]

Thanks

[static pond]

https://x.com/fromthegamer/status/1876611057646768142?s=46

FTG (@FromTheGamer) on X

From the gamer AGAIN
We are looking for sponsors or investors

Tank :@heesung69981132
Dps :@Prophet_0w
Dps :@seonjun_ow
Sup :@vigilante_ow
Sup :@vinda_im

Coach :@Dongsu_ow

Owner :@a1m7_ow

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 12:45 PM

I didt even know Ftg had a owner I thought it was just a random team made by ow player

[glass sleet]

Same. It’s it’s kinda a real org?

That looks like a decent team.

It’s January. Outside of tm, idk who else announced their rosters.

[mortal cipher]

Potentially another org maybe we could get a telecom war in ow lol

[static pond]

https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1876708785000947767?s=46

Overwatch Esports (@OW_Esports) on X

We're reaching the stars in 2025 💫

Introducing the Cosmic Bundles, featuring some of our most timeless Overwatch Esports skins, reimagined for a new age.

Grab Cosmic Mercy, https://t.co/YhCHSYTVmw, Echo, and Zenyatta today and gear up for the start of #OWCS2025 Stage 1!

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 7:13 PM

[slate siren]

When is the OWCS 2025 starting my beloved spark are back in tournament so I have to tune in

[tardy edge]

blizzard low on funds so they drop another mercy skin for all the paypig otp mercy’s

[tardy edge]

april or march i think

[mortal cipher]

Fleta skin in purple is the only one that feels wrong

[bitter marlin]

all it needs is a kiriko skin

[glass sleet]

January 31st

I think first lan is in April so it can’t be when OWCS starts

[weary scarab]

Of course they had to create a mercy skin for the one mercy player watching esports

[late saddle]

The zen skin looks cool

[torn portal]

https://x.com/overwatchnaeri/status/1876773933904486721?s=46

Naeri X 나에리 (@OverwatchNaeri) on X

Overwatch 2 Cosmic Echo New Emotes "Dance Party" 🎶#Overwatch2

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 11:32 PM

they copied his whole flow

and we won’t even get a season pass for getting this emote

[rugged wharf]

Tf is this

[torn portal]

first emote recolor ?

[rugged wharf]

Is it a bundle?

[ripe oak]

Yes

[mortal cipher]

Ye

[wise orbit]

srpc are kinda cooked this season

rein otp and bap otp

and no sym would make rein comp hard too, me thinks

[echo rampart]

you watching the same scrims as I am

I agree but SRPC have always been cooked they just perform

[mortal cipher]

they just ride or die

[wise orbit]

they were a ball hair away from beating vp in stage 4

[robust patio]

cr the goat

[viscid hatch]

Fr

[mortal cipher]

fr

[wise orbit]

fr

[uncut spade]

fr

[weary scarab]

Nah

[sullen berry]

Nah = fr

[mortal cipher]

tru

[wise orbit]

tru

[ebon furnace]

Best comp for doomfist?

[severe pebble]

bastion, soldier, mercy, moira

[full lily]

MARVEL RIVALS IS BETTER 🗣️🔥

[cosmic socket]

lmao

[late saddle]

Oh a mute

Thats so skibidi

[robust patio]

lel

[robust patio]

!!join

[young fractal]

demontic joined the chat.

[rugged quest]

https://x.com/Seekersgaylover/status/1877138074439676118

SeekerGayLover (@Seekersgaylover) on X

As things stand the falcons team for next year will be
Dps - Mer1t and proper
Tanks - Someone
Supports - Chiyo and Shu (i am not joking)

This will be the last tweet I make for falcons. Hanbin I am not 100% sure on but stalker and fielder are likely to leave

Twitter · Jan 8, 2025, 11:39 PM

[robust patio]

damn

rip toronto

[rugged quest]

also stalk3r and chiyo are beefing

[robust patio]

AND

SHU????

WHYYYY

NOOOOOOOOO

bruh cr losing cus of oil money transfer

[rugged quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059160048925933600/1326895080530907177/image.png?ex=678116d7&is=677fc557&hm=4e803dc3e5225cfeb23a63dc54f11038ef29d3de29303f12af65421a3c4bd7b9&

[hybrid hollow]

off season drama?? Are we back???

[pure bramble]

i like to imagine everybody just getting pissed at smurf while he thinks about what he's gonna do once he's retired

[glass sleet]

What? I’m sorry but why? Stalker WANTS to leave? Is he retiring? Why is he leaving after winning so many trophies with falcons?

I’ll take Stalk3r over Mer1t always.

[hybrid hollow]

@glass sleet

That's why allegedly

Apparently chiyos ex is a team wrecker I guess

[glass sleet]

Kick chiyo out instead then

[hybrid hollow]

It seems like stalker sat out and left willingly

[glass sleet]

No way a team like that stop cuz of a crazy ex gf

[hybrid hollow]

I mean it's probably that + just normal off season things

Smurf leaves and nobody really knows what hanbin wants to do

Fielder is gone for some reason

[glass sleet]

Drama even after winning so many trophies.

[glass sleet]

Hanbin hates playing with them?

[hybrid hollow]

not sure

There's pretty much 0 information on hanbin besides him possibly not being on falcons

[glass sleet]

It seems CR gonna be the best again with this FLC roster

[glass sleet]

He goes to TM.

[hybrid hollow]

If shu goes to falcons does this mean fielder went to cr

[glass sleet]

Losing stalker and replacing him with merit is such a huge downgrade

I don’t get how this guy keeps getting picked by top teams

[hybrid hollow]

I mean the guy is good at hitscan when he wants to be

[glass sleet]

Oh yeah

[hybrid hollow]

he just never wants to

[glass sleet]

Cuz he’s a package with someone

That’s why

[hybrid hollow]

That too

Kai and Kev situation

[glass sleet]

He tried but Quartz

Legit merit wouldn’t be on a top team if it wasn’t for someone

This shit been a thing since flash ops

If CR stays together then it’s ggs. This year will be very boring

[hybrid hollow]

Is there another hitscan you would take over merit that's realistically available

[glass sleet]

Stalk3r

[hybrid hollow]

I mean obv he doesn't wanna be there

[glass sleet]

Yeah but he’s still better

Quartz goes to FLCs??

[hybrid hollow]

It doesn't matter if he doesn't wanna play with the team tho

Quartz is never leaving tm he has Stockholm syndrome

[glass sleet]

He gets paid a lot so yeah

I mean he deserves to get paid a lot

[glass sleet]

Proud

That’s a legit option

Proud is better than merit

[hybrid hollow]

What's going on with proud

Imagine he just never plays ow again

[glass sleet]

What?

Is something going on with him?

Isn’t the dude on PF?

[echo rampart]

already signed contract TM

[glass sleet]

Break it?

[hybrid hollow]

Is he?

[glass sleet]

Destroy it

[glass sleet]

Last time I checked during the soop

[hybrid hollow]

He's could staying with them then

[glass sleet]

Nothing was announced for him

Yeah but he would leave if falcons ask for him

Surely

[hybrid hollow]

Maybe t1 got him who knows

[echo rampart]

entire year's salary break no reason real

[glass sleet]

All I know is falcons looking weak as hell now

[hybrid hollow]

Eh idk

depends on the meta

Any double flex meta and they're cooked

[glass sleet]

They can win both Korea and asia lan again and they’ll make it back easy

[glass sleet]

I mean even on hitscan. He’s not him. Especially playing against Lip.

[hybrid hollow]

but if hitscan is strong for most of the season they're still a top 2 team

[glass sleet]

If it ain’t Cassidy, bro is ass.

[hybrid hollow]

His Ashe is better ngl

Always has been

[glass sleet]

If it ain’t his Ashe, dude is ass.

I just picked one of the two

Dude is still ass

[hybrid hollow]

I wouldn't say tht

[glass sleet]

He’s arse?

He’s booty?

[hybrid hollow]

He was inconsistent at the start of the season but by the end he was fine

[glass sleet]

He’s buttocks?

[hybrid hollow]

by the second half of the season I don't think Toronto had any major individual players issues

kinda why I wish the roster stayed together

[glass sleet]

He always looks like the weak link all year. Dude only looks decent playing against ass NA teams.

[hybrid hollow]

nah

[glass sleet]

Yes

[hybrid hollow]

Vega was the weak link for like the first two stages outside of merit on tracer

someone was shit on mauga for a while

[glass sleet]

Merit is ass on anything that’s not Ashe

And that’s a problem

[hybrid hollow]

hes ass off hitscan shocker

[glass sleet]

Lip, proper, and stalker are better hitscans and better at flexing

Ain’t nothing shocking about that

[hybrid hollow]

I mean yeah they're better than merit

[glass sleet]

Dude can’t flex and is just Garbo

[hybrid hollow]

Doesn't make him just ass

[glass sleet]

He is tho 😭

[hybrid hollow]

any hard hitscan meta he's a solid pick

[glass sleet]

The stars gonna align for him to be decent damn

Wouldn’t want a player like that on my team

[hybrid hollow]

he doesn't need to be the best player in the world to be a functional pick on a championship roster

Look at checkmate

[glass sleet]

Wdym? Bro was good on mayhem?

[hybrid hollow]

Yeah he was good with mayhem in their system and that meta

[glass sleet]

And he was the best player on ROC and Fnatic. He always plays well

[hybrid hollow]

He's mid outside of the and always has been

[hybrid hollow]

Anyone looks good on those rosters

[glass sleet]

He was on mid teams not his fault

Unlike merit who was on a top team and still underperforms

[hybrid hollow]

like checkmate has never been the best flex dps like ever but he does his job and he does it well

[hybrid hollow]

His top team was underperforming as a whole

[glass sleet]

Using checkmate as an example for merit is an insult

[hybrid hollow]

Toronto didn't look good internationally until ewc

And even then u can argue that was pretty mickey

[glass sleet]

Even when they were cooking NA teams, he was where? Dude was no where to be seen.

Anyway

I’m a merit hater

[hybrid hollow]

He was on tracer yeah but whenever he was on hitscan he was clearly better than anyone else in na on that role it wasn't even close

And he looked fine when to Toronto played Winston dive with Ashe

Torontos shortcomings can't be placed on a single player after ewc

They all did well and did shit together

[glass sleet]

I mean you can. Definitely. If one player can carry, one player can drag a team down.

[hybrid hollow]

Im a prime time Lenny glazer but bro was the guy on the carry heros so was he carrying or doing his job

he's was poppin off on the pop off heros

He definitely was carrying at stockholm tho

[glass sleet]

I was talking about another player who plays the same heroes as merit.

Quartz

[hybrid hollow]

That's honestly different tm are just

Idk what tht team is

Plus quartz is a different level of talent

[glass sleet]

I’m not talking about Lenny carrying. He wasn’t hard carrying just not being ass like merit

And on a pop off hero like you said

[hybrid hollow]

there wasn't a time where merit was ass and half the team wasn't also ass

https://tenor.com/view/aye-gif-906154202754724120

[glass sleet]

There were times where he was ass and his team wasn’t. He’s either ass or not hard feeding. Only those two.

[hybrid hollow]

I beg to differ

[glass sleet]

I unfortunately gonna have to hate on him less now if he’s on FLC

[hybrid hollow]

Besides dive comps Toronto was very inconsistent on the macro in any other comp

[glass sleet]

Yes that’s true but that doesn’t cover up for him imo

[hybrid hollow]

I just can't call the hitscan guy ass bc the whole team can't play the comp

[glass sleet]

And btw

[hybrid hollow]

Like if nobody is doing their job right why does he get all the blame

[glass sleet]

Their dive comps only work on weaker teams

[hybrid hollow]

someone and rupal were bots in orisa Juno brig

they literally put Rupal on the Juno bc bro was just not tht guy on brig

[glass sleet]

Or was it cuz Vega wasn’t that guy on Juno?

[hybrid hollow]

Nah I forgot who they interviewed before stockholm but they said Vega was fine on Juno

[glass sleet]

Ok then

[hybrid hollow]

But when they put Rupal on it they were better at Juno brig bc the guy who actually plays brig was on brig

[glass sleet]

Who actually plays brig?

[hybrid hollow]

I never got why some teams made their flex supp play brig

[glass sleet]

I mean yeah sure he picks brig more buuuut

[hybrid hollow]

Rupal has never touched that hero outside of joats

[glass sleet]

I mean they’re not much better

[hybrid hollow]

???

Rupal himself will tell u how much better Vegas brig is

[glass sleet]

Vega had a lot of times where he kept feeding

It was wild

[hybrid hollow]

That's just Vega

He feeds

[glass sleet]

…yes so my point stands

[hybrid hollow]

Despite that he was way more consistent on brig

[glass sleet]

They lost cuz he fed so hard

[glass sleet]

Ofc

Against someone who never played brig he better fucking be

You know?

[hybrid hollow]

consistency matters way more idc if Vega is feeding when Rupal is living getting no value

It's like Landon on brig

[glass sleet]

Did you watch tomothans last video?

[hybrid hollow]

Actually

[cosmic socket]

https://x.com/ENCE_OW/status/1877375715575767447

ENCE Overwatch (@ENCE_OW) on X

We have decided to end our Overwatch 2 team operations because continuing was no longer financially sustainable.

A heartfelt THANK YOU to all our players, staff, and fans who were part of ENCE Overwatch's journey throughout 2024 🧡🙇

Read more: https://t.co/ylwfIsI9J6

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 3:23 PM

rip ence

[hybrid hollow]

That's a bad example astros brig is ass

[hybrid hollow]

Nah

1 hour of ow? I'll rather kms

[glass sleet]

Thought it was a passion project

[glass sleet]

Of ow esports

[hybrid hollow]

nah

Can't stand to watch or play the game

[glass sleet]

I can’t stand playing it so I feel you

Esports is what’s stopping me from deleting the game

[pure bramble]

okay so the three NA teams i like disband, then the only European team i liked disbands?

[mortal cipher]

Rip

[pure bramble]

very rip

[hazy marsh]

Bro I really want to see Someone finally on a kr team

But they'd be kinda ass at double flex dps

[echo rampart]

I don't wanna alarm anyone

when are they genuinely gonna start announcing things

Stage 1 is later this month, the qualifiers are even SOONER

to know who needs to qualify we need to know the partner teams no? cause they automatically qualify

[hazy marsh]

Eh

As long as things are done behind the scenes, idc when they announce

[mortal cipher]

They are probably making sure everything is done before they announce

[last kelp]

since they auto qualify, they can probably just appear when the season starts

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[rugged quest]

https://x.com/OW_Esports/status/1877415334375817501

Overwatch Esports (@OW_Esports) on X

A fresh new look for each region of OWCS 😎

Follow along in all of the action across each region with Opening Day on January 31!

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 6:01 PM

[blissful vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pge4-chiikawa-pge4-chiikawa-overwatch-overwatch-championship-gif-14933128334788186185

[static pond]

https://x.com/streamerbans/status/1876939824956858409?s=46

StreamerBans (@StreamerBans) on X

❌ Twitch Partner "hadi_ow" has been banned! ❌

https://t.co/bHjtWWrbc7
#twitch #ban #firstban #partner #twitchpartner 📒

Twitter · Jan 8, 2025, 10:31 AM

Lmao

[bitter marlin]

why

[echo rampart]

He got unbanned

He was insulting the French 😭

[cosmic socket]

w hadi

[mortal cipher]

Based

[mortal cipher]

[torn portal]

girls r fighting

[torn portal]

the biggest thing this tells me is that crazy raccoon is up in the air now

shu 💔

[hybrid hollow]

Not really it's safe to assume they just got a replacement

Probably not fielder tho

I lowk think fielder is boutta hit the quiet retirement

[weary scarab]

seekergaylover credible user

[mortal cipher]

maybe someone from HJD

[viscid hatch]

I hope that’s not true

[wise orbit]

RIP

[static pond]

https://x.com/owcesports/status/1877335010669195644?s=46

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports) on X

OWL Champion Edison makes his return with @Vor_Wolf 🐺

🛡️🇰🇷 @OW_Kalios
⚔️🇰🇷 @Edison_OW
⚔️🇯🇵 @BiLaLeRoAv3
⚔️🇯🇵 @aokghr
💉🇯🇵 @sakume_ow
💉🇯🇵 @ki_ru01
🧠🇰🇷 @UndineOW

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 12:42 PM

https://x.com/imavrl/status/1877271640117072274?s=46

Kevin Walker (@imAVRL) on X

Who's next fellas? 😂

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 8:30 AM

So ig there rumors of chiyo bullying stalker

[glass sleet]

Ofc. They had to ruin something great

[static pond]

https://x.com/imavrl/status/1877276197165391945?s=46

Kevin Walker (@imAVRL) on X

@Hyp3rAimz Rumoured new roster is Proper, Mer1t, Someone, Shu, Chiyo. Looking pretty elite even with changes.

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 8:48 AM

Also this but prob bait merlt and someone are apparently signed to t1 but with open contracts

[viscid hatch]

I hope shu stays on cr

[static turret]

Shit ass roster gg

[static pond]

Prob moon did promise to keep cr together

[echo rampart]

former owl champ in japan fym shiiitttt

[viscid hatch]

When did that happen

[static pond]

Soop cup I think

[viscid hatch]

I’m surprised Kalios is still playing

[static pond]

Rumor also say t1 coach is rush

[static pond]

He’s in Japan now gonna make easy money

[static pond]

Worth pointing out cr made like 600k last season

So I don’t think he leave

[viscid hatch]

Holy Skib

[viscid hatch]

I hope the leak is fake 😭😭

[glass sleet]

Damn that roster looking worse ngl.

I mean they lost their mascot sirmajed

It’s so over

Their best player left

Smurf the goat left

Fielder left

It’s ggs

[mortal cipher]

thats the rumor but my question is who else outside of Merit Someone and the Coaches

https://x.com/OWCEsports/status/1877325972711628863

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports) on X

Miku Fan Club is back and ready to take on #OWCS Pacific 💙

🛡️🇹🇷 @imp_romani
⚔️🇦🇺 @neuuish
⚔️🇰🇷 @Nyang_ow
💉🇦🇺 @FroggerOW
💉🇦🇺 @Ackyyy2
♻️🇳🇿 @Colourhex

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 12:06 PM

https://x.com/OWCEsports/status/1877339320622678329

Cavalry Esports (@OWCEsports) on X

🇯🇵 @mimoza_ow officially joins @_VARREL on support!

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 12:59 PM

[static pond]

My guess stalker maybe but seems like falcons is falling apart

With both coaches leaving

Wouldt be surprise if they jumped to t1

[mortal cipher]

from the rumors that came out is that T1 is the best and then CR and Falcons and everyone else

[mortal cipher]

im not sure if both went to GenG or just Crusty

[mortal cipher]

its T1 after all

[static pond]

Zeta?

[robust patio]

whos in t1

[viscid hatch]

Someone and merit were rumoured for t1

[robust patio]

https://x.com/ow_esports/status/1877415334375817501?s=46

Overwatch Esports (@OW_Esports) on X

A fresh new look for each region of OWCS 😎

Follow along in all of the action across each region with Opening Day on January 31!

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 6:01 PM

[sullen berry]

!!join

[young fractal]

GZ Kenobi in 2025 joined the chat.

[sullen berry]

Red & Gold, purple and charge cyan OWCS Logos

Can you all start requesting these as emojis in the server with me

[torn portal]

👀

[mortal cipher]

i think under falcons

[mortal cipher]

the rumor is Someone Mer1t and the coaches

[novel plank]

Wat are the schedule times for the cah 24-25 championship?

[robust patio]

ah

[robust patio]

where do i request

[robust patio]

owcs soop esports was basically rock paper scissors

falcon beating raccoon beating zeta beating falcon

[viscid hatch]

Did falcons beat cr

I dont remember

[wise orbit]

falcons won owcs finals and cr won soop cup

[viscid hatch]

OH i get it

[mortal cipher]

ye

[sullen berry]

modmail, silly

banning juno on control

forcing both teams to go kiri lucio

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxgSPtG7N-OdQkS93YdNHZg5o8FDOiMdb1?si=9U9Y6ZWS_IqhoIwH seriously this makes me wonder why the OWCS NA intermissions are generally boring in the regular season

and they also have sponsors

kinda impressed how much the broadcast has improved for english viewers on bilibili and now YT

Hog ban HAHAHA

the genji diff is not even close

[sullen berry]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxFgCU-nECxTsFM2cOWMLZwRtVRlmyMA_F?si=4QoiL_mCYFRWQNLa

[sullen berry]

https://youtu.be/Erz6J7-ifcs

carpe interview

rewatching the Summer Showdown match that could have been Fusion's first championship title

[sullen berry]

more ameng is good

here's hoping Japan gets better now that China is in the regional mix

[torn portal]

korean uncoachable?

[sullen berry]

it's still live, last i checked

[torn portal]

funny