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static turret
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Idk

vernal shoal
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Proper more comfortable on flex dps tho

static turret
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Prob both to t1 and falcons just have hanbin as a solo tank?

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Or they sign a Winston

vernal shoal
static turret
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Also

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We don’t know if those teams are staying together

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T1 has hella money

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And can out buy players

vernal shoal
static turret
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I hate sparkle

vernal shoal
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though there are definitely better flex dps

static turret
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I do NOT want to see that man on any roster

vernal shoal
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lol why dont u like him?

static turret
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He’s just a seller

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Sold in the owwc

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And is jusr washed

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Nothing against him I just think it’s time to retire

vernal shoal
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lol he did have his glory days in paris eternal and the fuel after all

vernal shoal
static turret
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Feels bad

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I hope this upcoming ow is good

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I want fair teams all around

vernal shoal
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hero bans is a good edition

static turret
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Yes

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No more forced mirror

static pond
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Na will be good

vernal shoal
static pond
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Kr prob be cr dominant again

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With zeta second

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Zeta rumor lost pelican tho

vernal shoal
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Falcons can take em but I dont think theyll try as much seeing has fielder and chiyo have two rings now

cosmic socket
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is zeta better than falcons now

static pond
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Prob

cosmic socket
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i didnt watch any of soop so idk

vernal shoal
static pond
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Tbh zeta picks up junkbunk they be better

vernal shoal
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What yall think of flora tho?

static pond
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He ok

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When he shows up he can be top tier

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But he reminds me of happy

vernal shoal
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fair

static pond
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Inconsistent

vernal shoal
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only thing happy had goin for him was his widow

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any other hitscan and it was just his flex dps counterpart showin up rlly

static pond
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Flora can be top
Tier the issue is his lack of flexibility and his inconsistency

vernal shoal
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i think his hero pool is fine for a hitscan dps it might just be the inconsistency but then again thats just me

static pond
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Happy has a lower peak but his flexibility to tracer is good

static pond
vernal shoal
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of definitely LOL

static pond
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He can’t tracer

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Or sombra

vernal shoal
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tbh its funny when a flex dps cant tracer better than their hitscan counterpart

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when most tracer metas historically have the flex dps on her

static pond
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It not new

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Fleta did it

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So did decay

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As for pelican he’s not bad

vernal shoal
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nowadays ye no

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but back then

static pond
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I just think his skill celling is pretty lower compare to stalkers

vernal shoal
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he was essentially s9mm if he was korean

vernal shoal
static pond
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He but stalker does his part

vernal shoal
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oh ye

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regardless of what hes playin

static pond
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And was reason why falcons beat cr during the kr stage

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I just think proper gets a lot is resources

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Of*

vernal shoal
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wym?

static pond
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I feel like falcons did the proper go kill thing sometimes

vernal shoal
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lol they did that on san fran 2022 but worse

static pond
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I hope the pelican to na with tree is true tho

hybrid hollow
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Most likely alr taken or aren't playing tho most likely

static pond
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I wouldn’t mind seeing him play in na

hybrid hollow
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pelican loves na clearly

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He always finds his way back

static pond
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Fr

vernal shoal
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bruv clearly loves it for the lower level of competition

static pond
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Knife is rumor for team liquid

hybrid hollow
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He just thinks America is cool 🔥🔥

vernal shoal
hybrid hollow
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also tbh competing in Korea rn is kinda lame

vernal shoal
static pond
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It’s a rumor

static pond
hybrid hollow
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he doesn't start over alphayi on zeta and it's not like he's gonna get picked up by falcons or racoons so going to na for a better chance at competing for the #1 spot on the region is understandable

static pond
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T1 maybe but I can see proper going there

rugged quest
vernal shoal
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ah so because he rides the bench and not because he wants a walk in the park

vernal shoal
hybrid hollow
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I mean he hasn't won in na yet so

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Plus Korea still has only two slots no?

rugged quest
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or idk what c9's plan is but they arent aggressive

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i dont think those mfs even expected to get picked for partner program

hybrid hollow
static pond
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T1 falcons crazy raccoon parther program

hybrid hollow
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bro caries his chungus team to top 3

vernal shoal
hybrid hollow
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And idk why hydron posing LFTs

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bro ain't getting picked up 💀

vernal shoal
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ye bro should remain stickin pennies in the jar on twitch

rugged quest
hybrid hollow
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true na just lacks hitscans

rugged quest
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just not by a partner org

vernal shoal
hybrid hollow
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He's gonna be on American Tornado v5

vernal shoal
vernal shoal
static pond
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Knife was rumor to go to na with a other kr

vernal shoal
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he too goofy

hybrid hollow
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All we have are tracer players and flex supports

rugged quest
static pond
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Korean

vernal shoal
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he already successfull in the content creator department

static pond
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Apparently c9 is having issues

hybrid hollow
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PGE needs to lock in so I can glaze him even more

static pond
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And third org for na Is missing

vernal shoal
hybrid hollow
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is he even competing

vernal shoal
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bros just another shax

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but worse prolly

static pond
hybrid hollow
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tbf rokit got dealt a shitty hand

static pond
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Ryan tree

hybrid hollow
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Nobody is winning with those rosters

vernal shoal
hybrid hollow
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bro had icy on the Winston g fucking g

vernal shoal
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not that it matters however cuz that team is cheeks

static pond
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There dps line was good for na standards

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Idk what happened with tsm

rugged quest
hybrid hollow
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Like tsm in every department is just going thru it

static pond
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To get picked

rugged quest
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tsm left because of uncertainties about owcs next year

hybrid hollow
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That too

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Orgs were gambling to stay

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even Toronto didn't wanna risk it

rugged quest
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They prolly wouldve stayed if they knew what got announced in stockholm

static pond
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But apparently they won’t cuz players don’t get paid a lot from orgs that been
In owl

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That why they want new orgs

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Apparently

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To pay players good

vernal shoal
rugged quest
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sounds like an excuse to me

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its way more likely they just wanted to get as many orgs as possible, meaning attracting new orgs with partnerships and praying the rest stay

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toronto was like the only org paying owl salaries

static pond
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It was a coach

rugged quest
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in the na scene

static pond
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I forgot who tho

rugged quest
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and ssg salaries were way lower than what toronto was paying

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yet they got it

static pond
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Toronto prob rebranding

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Even tho I perfer the red

vernal shoal
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welp they did that the first time for EWC

static pond
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Over purple

vernal shoal
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Toronto Ultra

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but tbh any players for some reason still lookin to get wit that org is askin to get cursed

static pond
hybrid hollow
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They might come back as ultra but it's rumored they lost every player

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So what's the point

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Going from the strongest roster in the region to maybe being a top 4 team

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If tht

static pond
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Putting gen g in eu upset me lol

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I wanted to see the gen g vs t1 rivalry

vernal shoal
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ngl I was wonderin wtf some of them emea players were doin in korea

static pond
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Boot camp

rugged quest
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someone and mer1t are with t1

static pond
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Ya

rugged quest
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and the rest are spread between liquid and ssg

static pond
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They wanted to go back to kr most likely

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Tbf kr a awesome place to be in

static turret
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These rosters aren’t 100% confirmed tho

rugged quest
static turret
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They could still change

static pond
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Training facility

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And there fan base is huge

static turret
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T1 buying out players ?

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Paying more than cr and falcons?

static pond
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Bro there tank in there lol team got a free shirt that worth like 200&

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$

static turret
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T1 buying players out gonna hurt them

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Negative revenue potentially

static pond
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There most likely being careful

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They have everything for a team

static turret
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I think prize pools will increase tho

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500k will be the new minimum

static pond
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Since there training thing is huge

static turret
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Owcs starts when?

static pond
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Uh next month?

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Is t1 and cr get skins there gonna
Be the first I’m
Buying

static turret
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Junbin ball skin

static pond
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I wonder how much money t1 would make from the skins

mortal cipher
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A lot it’s SKY

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SKYT

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SKT*

hazy marsh
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He wouldnt

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Even though someone is really flexible, on some of the offtank heroes he's still worse than hanbin

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Zarya and DVa especially I think he's said in interview are some of his weakest heroes, though that might have changed since

vernal shoal
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for sure

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whats yalls thoughts on zeruhh tho?

torn portal
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i will be buying lip widow

mortal cipher
static pond
static turret
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Quartz checkmate is all you need

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SIRMAJED

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Wait

static turret
static pond
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Rumors

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I heard about the team liquid one before

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Imagine if Christfer just gets rid of yoobi

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On his first day

static turret
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They need three Saudi for Saudi league

static pond
static pond
static turret
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Unfortunately youbi just might be the next best option for a Saudi “flex”

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Ok but if that team is true

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They’re gonna dominate eu

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Donghak hazard 👀👀👀

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Dongshit might not even be that bad in eu

static pond
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I’m very curious avout this roster

viscid hatch
chilly field
cosmic socket
glass sleet
glass sleet
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🫡

glass sleet
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Also falcons is full Korean roster now. Like I said, they don’t mind dropping their Saudi player.

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Checkmate won owl playing Mei so youbi can finally focus on only one tricking sym. Idk about Astro and donghak. I would not have given up on bliss for Astro imo

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Bliss was the goat

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But all these rosters are so weirdly mixed.

thorny gazelle
hazy marsh
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so while yes bliss to astro is a bit of a downgrade, the imports they got instead of him are better than the people previously on their roles

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majed to mcd is hard to say since we havent seen majed play in the last half year

robust patio
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lip da goat soj

viscid hatch
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Lip still goat

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If shu got a ring, then he would be goat convo

sullen berry
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Hey man tvnt got his shot, he just needs to lock it in this year to look like a real tank contender

sullen berry
static turret
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That new tm team is fire

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I need a look at all the rosters tho I need to see what the super teams from kr are

mortal cipher
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Shocker

glass sleet
glass sleet
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But yes I guess checkmate is definitely a dps you’d want on your team

weary scarab
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finally comes true

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why funnyastro tho

glass sleet
weary scarab
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nahhh

glass sleet
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Poor donghak gonna get bullied by youbi

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Dude always getting bullied

static pond
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Also apparently Asia lans aret happening

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https://x.com/rxisow/status/1871198032366309390?s=46

ryan (@rXisOW) on X

LAN in Korea basically cancelled for PAC/JP teams. Need to win a Korean team to even go to Asia LAN in this new format. Prizing still equally shit as this year if not worse. As we knew it every announcement so far was just a smokescreen. Never get your hopes up for Blizz again

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Zeta staying as a core prob minus pelican and heesung if the rumors are true

weary scarab
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idk if all these eu teams are real tho

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cuz hadi said his team will be very competetive with korea

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and ive not seen him on one

static pond
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lol what team in any region can be competitive with kr

static turret
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Asia only 2 spots still

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Why

glass sleet
gritty glacier
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Even a nerfed fnatic lol

bitter marlin
mortal cipher
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Lol

weary scarab
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man i just wanna see the official roster released on their twitter

weary scarab
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a hadi with koreans would go hard

weary scarab
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surely hadi will be in tm as the second tank

glass sleet
glass sleet
torn portal
mortal cipher
torn portal
static turret
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Isn’t China allowed in Owcs?

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Or was that no confirmed

torn portal
hybrid hollow
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Guxue is life

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Life is Guxue

cosmic socket
torn portal
mortal cipher
mortal cipher
hybrid hollow
torn portal
hybrid hollow
viscid hatch
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They know 6v6 is coming

mortal cipher
viscid hatch
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I wonder much much the pro scene gets informed, because a format shift would be pretty big for organisations

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Most would have to sign another

torn portal
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only two asia slots in major 1 confirmed

mortal cipher
torn portal
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it’s bleak

mortal cipher
viscid hatch
glass sleet
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What are these teams waiting for? CONFIRM YOUR SHIT ALREADY 😭

weak frost
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which anyone that has ever played ow1 above diamond saw coming

cerulean crescent
viscid hatch
weary scarab
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man o man

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static turret
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Win trading on ow win trading on rivals

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Tragic

weary scarab
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copium

viscid hatch
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From my games, they all feel winnable

torn portal
hybrid hollow
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yzn is unemployment final boss

errant hornet
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It’s not uncommon knowledge that he’s a big wintrader

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Not to say he’s not good, he is a good solo q player but nothing more

chilly field
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another wintrading bandit

viscid hatch
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What even is win trading

hybrid hollow
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It's only really possible at higher elos bc the pool is small enough

weary scarab
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How do you win trade in rivals with all the other top players being pros you don’t know. And the only friend in top 20 is your duo legendary

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Minmaxzxing would be the only thing

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And idk if you can minmaxx in rivals

static pond
robust patio
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yzn moving to rivals cus he aint on da lvl with owcs players

static turret
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Common knowledge

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Lbb7 is big bro

robust patio
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crazy raccoon 4-0

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le goat

uncut spade
sterile hamlet
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this pge?

robust patio
kind siren
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Get this gay sht off my screen bruh

glad linden
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What the flip

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This has nothing to do with e sports

cosmic socket
dusk slate
weak frost
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W

static pond
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Watching sbb stream wow his English improved a lot

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Ark is a nurse now sbb wants to be one

hazy marsh
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wait is sbb out of the army now

static pond
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Ya I think

glass sleet
hazy marsh
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mhm

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kevster?

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torn portal
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HAPPY BITTHDAY MCD!!!!

hybrid hollow
torn portal
static turret
uncut spade
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Crazy racoon vs falcons soon?!

hybrid hollow
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Crazy racoons vs the downfall of falcons 💔

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Coaching staff got fired, Smurf retired, stalker got personal issues going on 💔💔

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It's fried

sullen berry
uncut spade
torn portal
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shy is also being the goat as is typical

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he’s my hitscan goat

mortal cipher
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BLG please come back to OW
would be so fitting

torn portal
mortal cipher
worn falcon
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I miss OWCS, hope isn't doomed

static turret
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Any mod would like to ban the bot

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Or is that a real person

static pond
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Kr is mostly online I think now

mortal cipher
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again lol

weak frost
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lol

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liquid c9 t1 atleast are all coming ij

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n

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wdym

glass sleet
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We lost TSM, Fnatic, and NRG.
But gained
Geng, T1, cloud9, and liquid presumably.

static turret
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Losing fnatic wasn’t bc of owcs tho

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They weren’t getting the results they wanted

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Eternal 5th place team

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Atleast I think idk

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Nrg not being picked up for partner program sad tho

weak frost
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yea but c9 doesn't even have a team yet do they

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or are they picking up the ksaa kev Kai twilight team

weary scarab
echo rampart
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Although the source is fucking Stax so it may be joever 😭

glass sleet
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Cjay and bliss might be my favorite support line for next season

wise orbit
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what is tu?

rugged quest
rugged quest
rugged quest
wise orbit
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damn i was hoping for ence to stick around

glass sleet
rugged quest
rugged quest
wise orbit
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I like the roster though but I wish it was vestola instead of ksaa

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gen.g dps line up is kinda crazy but they're both fdps

rugged quest
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Compared to ultimates and vp

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Or depends on which korean vp can get on fs

wise orbit
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eh its not horrible

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idk about crispy but khenail is ok

rugged quest
wise orbit
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why are there so many eu bap otps

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lol

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I think hes ok at kiri too

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imagine if they signed funnyastro instead of crispy tho

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where are all the london players actually

glass sleet
mortal cipher
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GenG is looking good for the mixed

echo rampart
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and blizzard shelled out to gift a saudi org a partnership (the ultimates) with skins most likely nobody is gonna buy for anything but the colours

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all subject to change ofc

wise orbit
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which they didnt

echo rampart
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no money and reduced prize pools

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roster stolen by an org that gets money from the in-game sales

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no reason to stay

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😦 rip ence shock and defiant

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I swear to god blizzard why did shock and defiant get rejected despite having skins IN GAME ALREADY 😭

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literally zero extra work

rugged quest
rugged quest
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Ive only heard of geng and tm

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And the last spot was likely going to vp

echo rampart
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but they've been rumoured a LOT

rugged quest
echo rampart
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well no

rugged quest
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Unless c9 drops out

echo rampart
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the NA 3rd slot

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was a bit wobbly

rugged quest
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Which is what i meant

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With the 3rd emea slot there isnt even that

echo rampart
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I mean there isnt that to any of the slots

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its all just assumptions and rumours

rugged quest
echo rampart
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though with less than 1 month to go I do hope they break the silence soon on a few of the teams

rugged quest
echo rampart
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ultimates was leaked by the same person leaking the other slots

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its literally just 3 people that may or may not have insider info

rugged quest
echo rampart
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we only know about NA because of the shock CEO

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and you can work it out from there

rugged quest
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I missed that then

echo rampart
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no hostility either im just tryna work it out myself (I should prolly just wait for them to announce it all and not stress ab it )

rugged quest
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Maybe i just missed that by some chance

echo rampart
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just random stuff like that

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as I said

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could just be trash rumours

rugged quest
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Cuz from what ive seen, they were more straight forward with other partner orgs

rugged quest
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Ive seen alot more buzz about vp getting the 3rd spot than ultimates, while tm and geng have been clear

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As in tweets that talk about them getting the partnership and not just that they are wielding a roster

static pond
static pond
mortal cipher
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Midfiant til the end

glass sleet
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They’re a troll org

mortal cipher
wise orbit
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Name three players you want to kiss

torn portal
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the big 3

hybrid hollow
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chilly field
uncut spade
echo rampart
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Crusty to Gen.G

static pond
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He’s in eu apparently

worn falcon
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Oh it was reposted, nvm

mortal cipher
static pond
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There issues with players getting there prize money

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Crimzo also had this issue

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https://x.com/g8r/status/1872741496320909334?s=46

Gator (@g8r) on X

@izzys_ow All players have been paid out other than the prize money that just was sent out well over 6 months late by blizzard(lol). I’m all for shitting on bad parties but their intentions have always been good from my POV regardless of the lies and baits that blizzard esports gave

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modern dragon
static pond
modern dragon
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Ohh

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Dang

stuck tundra
viscid hatch
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The ultimates team is cool is that real?

glass sleet
viscid hatch
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Twilight as a starter on a team is cool

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I want to see kev on a great team again and I think that one looked really cool

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I wonder if he could return to peak performance

glass sleet
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Or just washed

weary scarab
viscid hatch
mortal cipher
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its twilight but well see

wise orbit
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I want tracer to be played all the time again

late saddle
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Those days are over

mortal cipher
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maybe

torn portal
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Leejaegon izayaki were questionable

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massa was

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interesting

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but smurf, viol2t, once again during ewc, and some others

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looked great

static pond
mortal cipher
torn portal
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Leejaegon is top 4 lucio’s of all time but just has a feed timer that if he doesn’t fulfill

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like he will explode

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he cannot go a match without trolling once but is also insanely talented it’s wild

mortal cipher
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big brain feed so being underestimate then do a some s tier support later

static pond
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lol

glass sleet
viscid hatch
viscid hatch
weak frost
weary scarab
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the only bad thing he doing is 3 stacking with insanely good players

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this game is so easy to climb in tho tbh

uncut spade
weary scarab
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anyone could get top 50

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in thyis game

weary scarab
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someone gotta give him credit for grinding

weak frost
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isn't Ahmed one of his viewers accounts that one of them borrowed so they can have a gm3 acc lol

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😭😭😭

weary scarab
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idk but ahmeds hard carrying on hela every game i see yznsa play

weak frost
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shrugEg idk tho yet to play MR

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weary scarab
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bro its actually over

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overwatch is dead

uncut spade
sullen berry
viscid hatch
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Twilihght didn’t play in playoffs at all I thought 🤔

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Yeah not a single map

olive zodiac
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Anyone know where to do tournaments?

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Or where to find them ?

wise orbit
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I'm holding one

weak frost
glass sleet
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Da goat

weak frost
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which is the equivalent of like ow low master

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since gm is just above diamond in MR

glass sleet
weak frost
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it was on stream lol

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one of them is a viewers account which is technically also account sharing and boosting

glass sleet
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Interesting

weary scarab
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thats the confusing part

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if hes gm3 he cant duo with yznsa

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@weak frost the mace person who tweetet this is also accused of "minmaxxing" https://x.com/aMonster121/status/1873794992424313265

aMonster (@aMonster121) on X

Nah man you are doing it and blaming others for doing the same??
Like yzn has all of his vods on public and every game is recorded even the ones he loses but you no you deleted all of your vods that you were duoing with a player lower rank than you so you can get a free win shame

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weak frost
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well yea mace is a client too xd

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dogshit brig otp

rugged quest
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im convinced

desert fractal
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who the fuck is zeta’s ana player

deft nacelle
desert fractal
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sure

hybrid hollow
desert fractal
hybrid hollow
mortal cipher
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lol

glass sleet
torn portal
echo rampart
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CHINA BACK

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CHINA BACK

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WOOOOOO

static pond
static pond
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Are they throwing them in with the 2 kr teams slots?

torn portal
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once again, fighting!

glass sleet
static pond
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Ya idk I think there talking about ewc

weary scarab
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chinese servers return february

static pond
glass sleet
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I think EWC is the second lan

static pond
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Ya I think so to

glass sleet
weary scarab
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länge leve stockholm

static pond
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My guess they have a deal with the dream hack

glass sleet
static pond
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Cod is also taking place there

glass sleet
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Valorant did this year I think

static pond
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Apparently cod is gonna have 2 majors there

glass sleet
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NA no lan this year

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Losers

static pond
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So my guess they have a deal with Activision

glass sleet
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Could be

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But more LANs is better so yay

static pond
# torn portal idk

Prob get there own slot one slot which explains why ewc has 1 china slot

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N why didt they give kr 3 slots

grave python
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I think we're not ready for OW esports in 2025

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IT WILL BE SO FKN GREAT

glass sleet
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OWCS needs sponsors now

grave python
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But I have faith

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More LANs is very cool too

glass sleet
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It’s the best thing

grave python
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Fr xd

glass sleet
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I can’t wait to see Korea shit on western teams 3 times a year

grave python
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But my hopes were mostly the return of China and the hero ban system from the EWC

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It's happening

glass sleet
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Org partnership

grave python
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Curious to see SSG skins

glass sleet
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Seems like ow esports is going up

glass sleet
grave python
glass sleet
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Lessgooooo

cerulean crescent
grave python
glass sleet
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So they’re back

grave python
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I only knew that London Spitfire was owned by Cloud9 x)

cerulean crescent
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T1 is also returning former Fusion

glass sleet
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Kinda

glass sleet
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Infernal??

cerulean crescent
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Yeah, T1 owned Fusion

glass sleet
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I was an infernal fan for last year of owl so might cheer for T1

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For Asia

grave python
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I was a London Spitfire fan and I had hope they return :(

glass sleet
grave python
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Yes

glass sleet
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Cloud 9 is returning

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Hello?

grave python
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I think they're returning in NA

glass sleet
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Weren’t they announced to be one of the partnered orgs?

grave python
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But we don't know exactly if Spitfire will return

glass sleet
glass sleet
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The name no

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Definitely not

grave python
glass sleet
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Having cloud 9 as the name is the better marketing decision by far

grave python
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So I don't think it was an impossible thing

glass sleet
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If TD comes back, it’ll be as Ultra

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You want your org name to match the other esports.

grave python
glass sleet
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For publicity

grave python
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But

glass sleet
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Respectfully

grave python
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I think I'm actually fine

grave python
glass sleet
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And they’re so shit

grave python
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Wdym ?

glass sleet
grave python
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So

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Hadi, KSAA, Backbone, Sparkr, Seicoe, FunnyAstro and Landon are shit ?

glass sleet
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Ooooooooh

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Yes

grave python
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I can't trust you

glass sleet
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Ksaa is the best eu tank but they didn’t even play him on one of his best tanks

grave python
glass sleet
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Ssg got shit on in Stockholm in a meta that was meant for them

glass sleet
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Hadi never had a good mauga to begin with

grave python
grave python
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Yeah

glass sleet
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And I’m still mad at them for not playing the best eu tank

grave python
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I was mad at them for this too

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But

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I strongly disagree that they're shit

glass sleet
grave python
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They might have lost

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I agree they lost

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But

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They're not deep shit

glass sleet
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No joke

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They were unbelievably mad at their meta

grave python
glass sleet
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You know they got 8th right?

grave python
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But it's not like if they always suck in the whole season

glass sleet
grave python
glass sleet
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Last in Stockholm

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They only got first in eu

grave python
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Also

glass sleet
grave python
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They got 3th in Dallas Major.

glass sleet
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Beating the one team that got last

glass sleet
grave python
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LMAO

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What am I reading

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You're trying to make me think that they're shit

glass sleet
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No

grave python
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Maybe they had hard times

glass sleet
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They’re actually shit

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I was cheering for ssg but holy

grave python
glass sleet
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They’re meant to be the MACRO team and they played horribly

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Didn’t win a single time

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Losing to NTMR

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and TM

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Unacceptable

grave python
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I was mad too when they lost

glass sleet
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Couldn’t set things better for them

grave python
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In worlds finals

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But that's it

glass sleet
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If it’s not a rein meta, they’re shit

grave python
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Hadi is good on Winston and Wrecking Ball too xd

glass sleet
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Makes me sad

glass sleet
grave python
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Nah

glass sleet
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Yes

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The glaze is strong with this one

grave python
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They don't especially need Rein meta to win a tournament

glass sleet
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Not A Tournament

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They won stage 4 beating a team with no coach

grave python
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I remember when ENCE win against SSG in Stage 4 before the finals

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3-1 I think ?

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Wait let me check

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Ah yeah that's right.

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glass sleet
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Sheeesh

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TM had roster problems

grave python
glass sleet
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Ssg just got lucky

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I’m afraid to admit that

glass sleet
grave python
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That's not luck that's skill

glass sleet
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No

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I mean they did their best against a team with no coach and a team with roster issues

grave python
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Of course it is

glass sleet
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I woulve been more mad if they lost to that

grave python
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Anyway can't wait to see my favorite players in 2025 Fire

worn falcon
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Falcon on top (not anymore)

mental vine
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GG Korea has competition with CHina

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China OW is SO BACK

hybrid hollow
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Love it when the best region has the least lan spots

weary scarab
static pond
mortal cipher
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we got our own MSi now

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its also kinda sitting they
chose Hangzhou as the Chinese City prob because league has Chengdu also set

mortal cipher
humble token
mortal cipher
static pond
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Just realize have scrims even been leaked for last season?

static pond
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I’m very interested to see how t1 performs

rugged quest
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after that not rly

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atleast to the public

glass sleet
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But they’re so back

glass sleet
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I think with FACEIT being OWCS’ sponsor, they get more slots.

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I mean it makes sense when you pay more.

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Right?

sullen berry
weary scarab
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damn i got blocked by coach ocie

wise orbit
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another final in stockholm cool

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rip na

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wait wtf the midseason championship is just a renamed ewc

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its the exact same as last year

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third lan my ass fuck these guys

worn falcon
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Yes

deft wolf
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CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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YAYYY

worn falcon
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And only 2 asia teams...again

deft wolf
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huh?

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🥺

worn falcon
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For playoffs

mortal cipher
mortal cipher
robust patio
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Cr the Goat

sullen berry
torn portal
sullen berry
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They will actually

torn portal
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jk if they lost to hjd it isn’t looking good spark bros…..they better get scrimming

sullen berry
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But against Korean teams I don't think much is going to change, but I have better odds that China could win against NA easily but loses to EU

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OA will be competing in their own division separate from Asia's Pacofic/Japan/Korea group

torn portal
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so we need the tank rotation

sullen berry
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LiGe's career should thrive or die, since they've been playing with some form of soft hero bans during Pro Chaser Association, the Chinese tournament that's hard to follow

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I don't have much wifi as I've been travelling for the past few days

torn portal
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too lazy to copy and paste but this is what i think of the lan choices

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deft wolf
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id love to see old cn talent come back

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and i want jinmu to actually get into a team that lasts more than 3 months

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wastedbtalent

thorny gazelle
cosmic socket
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what are we doing here

torn portal
thorny gazelle
torn portal
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ewc was a choice last year. Owcs was separate and that was great

thorny gazelle
thorny gazelle
torn portal
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but if ewc stops being a choice and becomes a requirement, that’s really shit for the esports community

cosmic socket
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"sorry if youre gay you wont be able to participate in owcs"

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like wtf

torn portal
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whatever keeps the lights on

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sigh

cosmic socket
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really upsetting

thorny gazelle
torn portal
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or

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esports washing i guess

cosmic socket
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even if you wont face legal problems for being gay itll still be an incredibly unsafe place to be

torn portal
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Acting like it’s not dangerous at all is very naive

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Don’t be complacent with sportswashing

thorny gazelle
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they won't let anything happen at the actual event cuz that will cause backlash

cosmic socket
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i shouldnt have to hide in my hotel room for the entire trip tho

torn portal
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That would be at risk

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is that healthy for esports? to have that for a lan?

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think of the fans too not just players they have no protection

thorny gazelle
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Well ye it isn't good but I think the money is too good to not go there

cosmic socket
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unfortunately yeah there is money in saudi

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and money is blizzards favorite thing

thorny gazelle
weary scarab
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But you won’t see all these people complain about that country

torn portal
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I’m not educated on it though

weary scarab
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Less abuse from human rights?

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The people who have 1 million Muslims in concentration camps

torn portal
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I can’t speak on the safety of china

cosmic socket
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china doesnt criminalize homosexuality

torn portal
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this mainly ^

stuck tundra
torn portal
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biggest difference

thorny gazelle
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China is more of a free choice (although maybe part of the deal to get overwatch back in china), dont think theyre as strict on that stuff as saudi though

stuck tundra
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Muslims will just kill you for being gay.

weary scarab
stuck tundra
cosmic socket
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yeah and thats awful

stuck tundra
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They both did bad things?

cosmic socket
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id also prefer them not to have an event in china

weary scarab
stuck tundra
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Don't need to compare when they are both just as bad

torn portal
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don’t make it a competition on evils

stuck tundra
thorny gazelle
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so no

stuck tundra
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Your making it seem like it's okay those gay people die cause Muslims die more

torn portal
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Main point is that for esports alone, saudi isn’t safe for minorities and is a disappointing thing for overwatch to make official

stuck tundra
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Hurt

weary scarab
stuck tundra
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Bad

weary scarab
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But china as bad

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If not even more bad

stuck tundra
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You thinking it's okay they die is wimd

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Wild

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Just saying

torn portal
cosmic socket
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visiting china while being muslim isnt as dangerous as visiting saudi while being lgbt tho

weary scarab
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I get blocked for asking why coach ocie will be co streaming china but not Saudi 🤣

torn portal
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You are ignoring our points by bringing up something not related @weary scarab

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It’s stupid

stuck tundra
weary scarab
torn portal
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Common strategy

stuck tundra
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Bro doesn't understand his country is worse no matter what scenario for players and coaches 😔

torn portal
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u happy

weary scarab
torn portal
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why would a queer person feel safe at all going

stuck tundra
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Yeah stuff did happen

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In world cup

torn portal
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if it’s illegal

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that alone is enough

stuck tundra
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The Saudia team was making fun of the broadcast

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LMAO

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Just except your country is just as bad

cosmic socket
# weary scarab What point

im saying that yes what china is doing to the uyghurs is inhumane and cruel but people visiting for owcs wouldnt be put in danger like they would be if they were lgbt in saudi arabia

weary scarab
stuck tundra
weary scarab
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Muslims can’t be who they are in china

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For example

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Is t that dangerous

torn portal
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I simply wasn’t arguing that

cosmic socket
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muslim players and coaches wont be criminalized if they visit for owcs

stuck tundra
weary scarab
torn portal
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Please

stuck tundra
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LMAOO

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It happened in the world cup

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ARE U SLOW?

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Deadass slow?

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Be fr br9

torn portal
weary scarab
cosmic socket
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itd also be more culturally accepted to be muslim in china than it would be to be gay in Audi

weary scarab
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Stop talking to me

torn portal
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It’s a srs topic

weary scarab
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Kahbe

cosmic socket
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bro might be youbi

stuck tundra
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Ur from country where age consent Is lower then 18 I'd chill

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Just saying

weary scarab
stuck tundra
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Sure

weary scarab
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Jag är från sverige

stuck tundra
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Defending country cause people are gay

weary scarab
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Fym sure lmao

stuck tundra
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Crazy shi

cosmic socket
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defending a country you aint even from

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i fear this is dickriding

stuck tundra
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He even harassed ocie

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Bro is weirdo

torn portal
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I’m genuinely curious if you will actually talk about if it’s fair for lgbtq to be ostracized from a lan. Are you agreeing since you bring up the similarity to muslims in china? Or are you avoiding the question? @weary scarab

weary scarab
torn portal
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I’m being reasonable

stuck tundra
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Their would be multiple crimes and way more killings

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Since they have been like that since forever

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If your homophobic just say so bro at this point

torn portal
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i half expected this convo to happen why did i mention sportswashing

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sigh

cosmic socket
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if youre gay in saudi your best scenario is getting your ass beat

stuck tundra
weary scarab
stuck tundra
thorny gazelle
cosmic socket
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if youre visiting china as a muslim your worst scenario is people looking at you funny

weary scarab
torn portal
stuck tundra
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No arguments that's it

weary scarab
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Just stop waffling to me

torn portal
glass sleet
torn portal
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no cap

stuck tundra
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Deadass

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He already went at ocie

thorny gazelle
cosmic socket