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Lol
holy
the best teams oat and theyre forced to just mirror mauga
PROPER
falcons just gotta fuck up cr in gf too by just blocking ilios
Looking for the banger series I don't see it yet
PROPER IS SO GOOD MAN
I think falcons should save ults
Double
That was discusting
falcons just has such good ult econ here no?
I say they complete map
fielder might be the greatest brig on the planet
Double blossom with cardiac is so funny
Cr being hitting the ssg ult dump
yeah
I wouldnt go that far
double blossom has gotta be the silliest pro meta ive seen in all of ow2
have you been watching him this game? š
for sure
he's been lapping chorong over and over again
At least it looks fun
and yet chorong has been dying first most fights 
dude
They're gonna blow all 4 and copy mauga
proper is giving us a generational reaper guy performance
DUDE FALCONS MACRO IS SO GOOD
this aged well lmao
Nah souj
soj
no their reaper guy was striker
striker was on reaper
lmfao every time cr wins a fight stalker still gets a pick
Oh right
Bro on souj was the only reason shock even got to gf
and they had mikeyy instead of coluge for god knows who
Did cr rllyonly play ball in scrims
I mean they are infact very good at ball comps
Coluge winston is pretty tragic
Nice comeback
unfortunately for him edison had a career defining performance in the gf -22
That was it though
bro was looking like 2019 lebron
yeah neither of shocks tanks are anything on winston compared to fearless
coluge is an OT player
Violet Finn was good for backline but it wasn't fielder chiyo
Striker proper better dps line
Mikey Winston nowhere near fearless Winston though
Which makes their 2nd place even more impressive
wyeah where are sparkl9e and edison now
to be fair, yeah
sp9rkle
Retired I think
Hessangs ech is crazy
sparkle is like retired
i have no idea abt edison
his liquipeida page says active
Proper gaming man monster season & playoffs from him
but like sparkle had been playing for so long that it'd be incredible if he was still planning to play
huge rally
who woke up CR
Hes just a really chill guy who likes to get 5ks on genji
i feel bad for lip hes stuck on reaper duty
Proper also on reaper though
and proper as well
Cmon
proper is so big
Letās not get swept
CR CR CR
OK cage rally blossom for cage
Never give up
I donāt believe it
cr highkey ball made
Falcons should win
HEESANG DEAD
Heesang getting gapped
stalker actually owns heesang
OK no cage
They are doing
Weāre on Japan stream
It
heesang actually being exposed
They gotta kill shut or end it before ray
THERE IT IS BABY
everyone who said heesang should have won flex dps mvp of the year over proper 
Who said that
PROPER
Why are we lying
PROPER JUST HAD HIS WAY
Over proper is crazy
Maybe in like stage 1
WITH YOUR SHITTY FUCKING TEEEEEEEAM
3-0 WTFFFFF
Erm. Predictions were 66% for raccoon
Team diff
Holy fuck stalker is heesangs daddy
Heesang canāt keep up
āpredictionsā
Double flex favors falcons
Legit tm did vetter
Heesang was actually getting perma gapped
I guess I was right. Raccoon only looked better this tournament cuz they had easier opponents
i feel like ever since juno came out heesang has been a clear level below stalker and proper 
Tm did betterš„ø
HAHAHJEIFHS
That sentence is soo fucked up and the fact that it's true is insane
falcons are the best
Lip traveled across the land to do air with blossom
Falcons started playing better also
Get this man back on hitscan
toronto cope
š
yeah true
TM won falconsā map choice as well
And I mean
surely CR is too boomed to continue
The shade when they said CR had 4 MVPs and heesangš
Heesang canāt keep up
CR is a very smart team. The grand finals they will pull out stops. Also grind finals if they can stall long enough they can force dive maps
Anytime juno is not played though heesang puts stalker in his place
YEAHHHH PROPER INTEREVIEW POTM
TM secretly best team
TD beat TM and TM put up more of a fight against falcons than CR
How is stalker not mvp
cr definitely picking gib in grand finals
I'm fucking with the blame Juno angle
Wait why is tm the only team to take a map off of falcons
About that. How come they have mvp decided before the tournament even ends?
?
cause proper was insane
When's next match btw
Also why didnāt cr go for a ball map?
That hero is just ridiculous LOL
Ball doesnāt work
Cuz TM are built different. Sorry I mean Quartz.
Regular season
It would be cool if the teams in here tried some other comps
In this meta?
The grand finals will not look like this. Donāt put much stock in this face off
Td migrh have a shot but I did not understand why no gibralter from cr
It's regular season mvps
18 minutes
yes bro, that's why i said cr will pick gib in grand finals. they hiding something fs
I believe in DaddyFreak
!jumbo 
Do we even have a regular season? Most people that voted did cuz raccoon won EWC
Alr nice I have time to shower
For some veriety
anyway proper just had his way with your shitty team
I mean yeah it's a regular season
Gib is a CR win but they need more than just that map to win the series
Thatās what I told you
Proper: I had breakfast so you know I was about to unleash
Does anyone know how much the winning team will get for the Grand Finals?
Let proper win for once please
The regular season is just all the ow played before the final event of the year
Can sleep well knowing that in any actual skillful meta falcons got always 3-0 by cr
Quarter of a mil I believe
Maybe I should start having breakfast
Moon has his secret playbook
EWC doesnāt count tho. Whatās the percentage for vip or whatever theyāre called? They definitely didnāt take EWC into account.
He told his team to tank the win
Are grand finals gonna be first to 3 as well?
Anytime dive is played cr wins
Ah okay
Or is it 4
You'll win the lower bracket
ft4
No matter the meta you have to be skilled even shitty mauga meta
Not announced
All metas are skillfull ur logic is fraud
I mean it doesn't matter if the voters did
you skip the most important meal of the day????
Grand finals gives CR better chance
No im right everyone that disagrees is wrong
cr gonna try somenew comp in finals
You can't stop someone from letting ewc influence their vote so it has to count
CR will 100% pick Gibraltar in grand finals
I am the truth
Proper breakfast diff is crazy
Yes thatās what Iām saying. The average fella is only like 20% of the votes
I mean falcons has 1st map pick now
I usually only eat dinner tbh
I would not be suprised if they forced hitscan Lip
And there's only so many dive maps
I think falcons might win if they keep up this roll
All voters not just the fans
Lip gonna pull his cards out and carry his sorry ass flex dps
Like intentionally or
Iām a falcons fan but Iām saying to not be complacent. CR does not get mentally shaken
yeah cr will only get ilios if it goes to map 7
Echo in this meta is actually insane double blossom/ double cardiac overdrive is stupidly strong
Losing to FLC means they donāt get to go dive control
What really fucks cr is the falcons first seed which makes them pick the first map -> oasis
And not ilios
Semi I guess? I forget but also can't be bothered
Forcing him on cass wouldnāt be crazy
Ok so the 80% didnāt calculate EWC
I mean we don't know
What if cr knows a comp which could counter the beyblade meta 2.0
It's not like there's a stat for it
CR is less favored this meta
Its not a good idea to try to win in upper finals because cuz cr would get to ilios and gibralter for grand finals
Heesang is good but I fear now that proper and stalker are actually locked in he canāt keep up
Like
Iām pretty sure blizz wouldnāt want that
Itās a large dps canyon
I'm pretty sure they don't care š
It's just a MVP voting
Thereās a clear split though since some maps actually favor the dva ball
Over mauga
We've had Mickey MVPs and role stars before
They are always copying Reaper. The Reaper damage is just so strong. I wonder why they went from so many Cas to so much Reaper considering neither of them changed much, but last time I watched esports I didn't see Reaper at all and it was all Cas
CR is generally better at dive
Yeah
Secret reaper meta was hiding
you know what would be really funny
The new patch somehow conjured the old patch to run mauga reaper
They said the meta was decided by reaper and mauga is being played because of reaper
if the only map falcons dropped the whole tournament was to twisted minds
Itās a reaper show
Super started playing reaper in ranked and makes 3 videos about it -> reaper becomes hard meta in the finals
Is super the goat

Everyone seen mauga got buffed and had to see if it was valid on the old patch
moon and crusty learn from the best
Iāve known reaper been strong this season. No one just played him.
Patch transcended time
I think it is the slight nerfs in other characters that make Reaper somehow buffed
For real
Cr could analize the match while they are in the breake and learn from falcons
ok lets calm down
His spread is a giant buff. He genuinely can snipe people now
Idk now they wont be able to pick ilios at the Start of grand finals
It's just power creep
More pellets hitting means more damage done
DOIN TRICKS ON IT
i want this twink obliterated

?
with an orbital laser
The hero was already good then ppl realized mauga and Juno hyper enable the guy
So boom reaper meta
Someone tell moon junbin ball is the cheat code
That was a couple of patches ago though no?
CR saving ball/dive maps for GF
well
It all adds up
to be fair
Crusty sober rn his coaching is good
This meta is not much different to banana rush if you think about it
The spread buff with 300 hp and life steal is insane
in asia finals falcons countercomped the ball with dva on lijiang and won ilios 
god i don't want falcons to win because the saudi blood money team taking it all would be depressing
Yes but they never tested him. Also he didnāt fit well atm. What they were playing was strong with orisa genji, cass.
but also i love an upset
The guy doesn't die and takes 0 DMG in the neutral he just stands there and u cant stop him
Pro bench warmer
Has he ever played a map
He came in for hard hitscan but then stalker played it
Yeah good for them for winning a CRās map choice. Very hard to do
Yeah
A few maps in stage 2
None in playoffs I think
Lenny vs heesang
SIRMAJED played more games than happy
W
Yeah i only watch playoffs
I was excited to see happy but he didnāt get to play
So no wonder then
I love that OWCS has a translator
Neither does sirmajed
For Korean teams
still gotta feel bad for him though
Bro happy hs i washed
Sir majed is the Saudi rep
Only good on widow
He plays so falcons keep getting their money
Obviouslyā¦
South Korea looks so happy when he talks to them in their language
being S++ in a team of S+++ players is ruff
Ik but they get happy in the interview makes me smile
Happy?
Happy is A
You canāt be good in a lobby full of greats I fear
ā¦you mean Sirmajed?
i'm a happy believer
first time CR has been shut out by falcons btw
Double flex meta
When both teams have 3 mvps being good aināt enough
yeah
Bro stop complaining about meta
cant get better without real pressure though
Proper and stalker have strong advantage here
he's getting his bag though
Nah Asia lan and Dallas uppers were the same
Cr still won Dallas tho
no it wasn't
Iām a die hard falcons fan man. Iām saying donāt discount CR
Sirmajed is held back by language barrier
this is the first time falcons have 3-0'd CR
Oh u meant the 3-0
Sir majed chillin
falcons lost upper finals in asia lan
Yeah it's the first time they've never gotten a map
He could go to tm and they could do things
yeah i said shut out
Get rid of mcd
Fuck you right. FLC won UB and lost GF
And youbi
No upper finals Dallas
Oh no..
Sign ksaa
Heās cosmetic
i wasn't talking about dallas i was talking about asia finals
Teams that played against him in Dallas sure didnāt think that
Eu teams would see this and play bap mei rein
Cr doesnāt make to to grand
And get owned
Toronto stops them
Real
Itās even better. Heās getting paid to be on vacation.
oh i think this was the first time ever CR has been swept
it is
ALL ROADS LEAD TO TORONTO
holy
ALL ROADS LEAD TO DEFIANT
Ye lol bro is just getting free stuff
Masters 3 brig āvegaā vs chorong
Sugarfree putting heesang in the mix Iām calling it
Merit breaks lips hands and diffs him
if toronto pick clash again like 12 minutes
I think we migth see upset
Casores pays moon to not put junbin on ball
No way theyāre picking that again lol. Theyāve learned their lesson
i think this match is gonna be as big a stomp as the first time CR and toronto played yesterday
Yeah
toronto will win 5 or less team fights
Merit was nowhere to be seen against Quartz. You really think heāll do better against Lip?
Yes
I will probably go study cause ik thereās nothing interesting gonna be happening
Understandable
Merit washed
Lenny
Bigger
NTMR was a let down
Cuz TD didnāt study
Lenny will have to deadlift
Jake looks like heās going to a funeral
He is
Sligthly
Kellan off ping wasnāt that bad
Tm did pretty well 2
NRG and TM top4 is funny
Scissors was blessed with good internet
Pge and infekted
tm got 5th/6th
TM is one of my favs
How the fuck are they 5th? They lost to the 3rd team
Seeding
Idk seeding
they lost in lb quarters and nrg lost in lb semis
Robbed
TM was last place seeding
Only cuz they had an easier team against smh
Toronto got 2nd
ntmr and tm got 5th/6th
But we all know whoās the real 4th team
Nrg goat
Not the one that got rolled by TD
Pge
well nrg get the 4th place cash and tm don't so
I honestly am just happy that ssg were the first out

TM was such an underdog
Trolls
Most resources in emea and theyre ass
They did well
If ssg gonna waste talent like ksaa than ksaa should leave
Dude hasnāt played a single lan this year
Outside of Saudi eleague ofc
I like his fit yesterday
Yeah well it wasnāt really an ot meta
tm played really well
Except for dva
He looks like a punk now
best eu team
But dva wasnt for lan
LIP is massiveš
Youāre telling me mauga isnāt his metaā¦?
Mauga?
Yeah
Wtf
I mean theyāre playing hadi
We have grand tho
They rolled
Is it lower bracket finals now tho
Cr are playing td
Jesus
Yeah
So itās just cr falcons
Yeah and that was a mistake
Ye td vs cr
3-0 aweep for falcons
Hesssang got gapped into eternity
CR first time feeling the steam roll
heesang isnāt as good as stalker or proper imo
It's cause stalker is heesang father
Pretty new for them
stalker is lowkey insane
Toronto pov
he gapped quartz too
Its just double blossoms with cardiac overdrive and orbital strike every 2nd fight inside cage fight
stalker prob top 2 hitscan rn
Stalker and proper took turns playing reaper and just shitting on him
YAY
Thatās suprised me
winton into mauga
TD should mirror cmon
Me too
Every 2nd fight its a 10 ult dump
The reaper player is lip not heesang
Toronto elimination speedrun
you should've seen the last match
āBumsā
Lip was doing fine ish
heesang was getting perma gapped
Shu chorong
Heesang got gapped
Nah lip was actually getting diffed by proper
He always has one bum
DVA
Falcons have one bum too š
Nah
falcons goat
Well 1-0 cr we got illios
So itās balanced
Hanbin and smurf were mediocre asf
Toronto getting smoked rn
we got junbin ball now tho š„
tbf majed isnāt ever gonna play a serious game
Junbin way better than hanbin
well racoons is 10 billion times better than toronto
Lip glazer
toronto barely beat an eu team ffs
Heās the best hitscan he deserves to be glazed
Quartz was not supposed to go that hard
Apparently not
Heās insane
Heesang is ass gg
quartz needs to be on a korean team
Bro getting gapped by someone on dva
Smh
Zeta stealing happy
Wait
It' so fresh to not see beyblade meta 2.0
Whats the zeta hitscan
Yeah but theyāre not taking Quartz
Why is td winning fights
Ngl bring back Pine
Also
oh I know but they should
wtf was that barrage???
Sugarfree is killing everything
sugar free is insane icl
Iām saying even if heās better they still wouldnāt take non Korean
yeah i know
but heās that good
what the fuck is going on
wait how ahead are you guys
Holy fuck they flipped point
Iām on jp stream
Isn't widow better then ash
These players nerfed by their nationality smh
they legit are
Hoy
I think lip should go widow
LENNYFREAK
they gave sugarfree fuckin meth dude
NEWS IN FROM STOCKHOLM
he's mental boomed from the falcons probably
HEESANG FOUND UNCONSCIOUS AT KEYBOARD
hadi is ass
ssg will never win anything with hadi MT
Let's go let's see lip cock on widow
heās mental boomed from being shit on my proper and stalker
LENNY
They had ksaa but didnāt play him
daddyfreak
Yo toronto got 5 ultrasound tf
I dont think people understand that that was the first time CR ever got 3-0ed
Ults
@hybrid hollow you seeing this
im not THAT hopeful
NOOOOO WAY
Ikr
HAM
OMG CR IS MENTALLY BOOMED
JESUSSS
ohhh lennard
ksaa and quartz are class
LENNY
im creaming in my fucking pantaloons dawg
no way in hell
Bro
I miss old borders
I want toronto to win it all
Sugar free
So bad
I canāt tell if youāre sarcastic or not lol
Sugarfree is gapping tf out of cr
Iām so sick of seeing koreans win
Holy
???????????
I donāt after them beating TM
In ow1
no i genuinely think theyre really good
if your racist just say that
i dont want TD to win I just want CR to lose
????
iām literally asian too
falcons is gonna wipe the floor with them if they somehow win against CR tho
You had old lvl up broders
Tf
yeah I know
LETS GO
you can be racist against your own race
smh
Mcd is Asian too butā¦you know
GO TORONTO
You lost against sugarfree? Call that a sugar fee
iām not racist you muppet
yes you are
iām not plus youāre a moron
Sugarfree is shitting on cr
Gg
GO FALCONS. Only non Korean non na player
so why is it different with asians
what a strange take
and I didnāt say that
Unless you say itās white
?
Heesang mental at all time low
holy bait
it's actually Lenny time
I am sick of korean players winning it because they win it every time
you are actually stupid as shit
stfu TD took first point
Junbin sold
Because they are just better LMFAO
lol
He using cds wrong
Dude āKoreansā has a different context in overwatch. Itās not a race thing
Your just mad because every other region is shit
wait why is TD lowkey winning
Im sick of seeing the winner win
I do not care about the other regions itās just boring
The woman screaming in the back is funny
now thats pretty racist innit
Can yall stfu with that rage bait
SO REAL
Ikr
Sugarfree kills backline again
Sugarfree is carrying
Like
no they legit put in like 4 hours a day at least
Trying to focus on lennyfreak
anyway TD is owning CR holy fuck
Heās gapping the entire team
only na people are this stupid makes sense
LIP
now
heās the goat
???
THATS racist
wait the mer1t high noon on junbin š„
average asian person being racist
Whats happeninh
I gotta go back to main stream
NICE MERIT
junbin on winsron?
Iām too ahead of everyone
wait till you find out iām american too
oh ok its just ragebait
he is decent with it
move along
Yall are like 2 minutes behind me lol
actual rage bait
I'm scared of ppl spoiling š
wait your mega racist?
GUYS CR DONT KNOW HOW TO ACT AFTER GETTING ROLLED.
is toronto up a map
not yet
Not yet
At pro level d.va is not insta counter to monkey
I need it
is vega good
This what I wanted to see
a good main support
Yup
Itās tied rn
how's lip's tracer
isn't he more of a hitscan?
coach moon may have but a curse on them
Lip tracer is good
LENNY
Bro get Lenny in Korea
But
heās improved a lot heās decent
Go main stream so donāt spoon
someone ALMOST lived that
heās good for NA standards
Dam lenny freak pulse gotta be massive
ah bt
ah gg for this one
nt
They said it was cope but I never doubted my na kings
Someone get sugarfree on a diff team
1-1 on ilios so far
Oof toronto sold
Him and quartz need to be freed
nah cr just locked in
lowkey sugar free quartz might be a top 3 dps lineup
but do you really wanna ditch mer1t and someone as teammates
maybe thatās omega bait though
nvm
Honestly they are all decent merit just a bit inconsistent cause he can be a demon some games and be meh other games
Replace Vega though he is the weakest link
yeah it was fun while it lasted

thereās me
ggs :(
Shu carry
shu the support goat icl
Oh my
falcons' support line looked rly fucking solid too
thatās cuz fielder and chiyo are insane too
LENNY
Bro soemoen
Stop seeling
toronto ain't winning a dive map against koreans
what an incredibly strange fight
Itās looking close
They have one ult
theres blood in the fucking water man
Primal
this might not be an 0-3
they can play a heavy brawl
If someone doesnāt get value itās wraps
yeah but they're mirroring dive rn
bad primal
yep CR takes this one prolly
like we got who on echo?
vega??
Sugarfree diffed lip
Oof rip
just stay on Ashe lil bro
Nah this heesang primal looking like linen
Vega caught
heās been insane this lan icl
DPS player type of primal š„¶
CR mentally good now
Someone did air with primal
heesang locked back in
Vega not even the issue fr
i mean this is signs of life from TD
Dang it
Get a second fdps pls
Merit didnāt get any kills in the last minute
Like we got fucking merit on echo
im more confident about our odds now
merit is lowkey washed as shit
Yeah but he is competing against lip rn
Vega is weak link
Sugarfree so good
ain't he a hitscan š
HARD hitscan
We blaming Vega bc thatās what we see but merit shooting air and someone primal air
is rupal
Bro can't play shit that isn't Cass Ashe or widow
uh he's been solid
yeah this meta is kinda rough for some hitscans it feels like
rupal is NAās finest
Rupal doing him
Ham is not the problem
at least once they mirror mauga
Merit just cold rn but Vega always lacking
But heās against shu
Vega isnāt always lacking
Actually heās been solid recently
Like
Why are we lying
Vega has actually been solid this event
More lacking than merit
He's been off Lucio and he's been good
Not really
but hes against ch0r0ng
Hell no
when i watched him
play he was doing fine
Ong merit is the weakest link on this team when hitscan isn't played
We jus blaming Vega and I get it
Vega ok
He's literally cosmetic
Merit gotta get hot yall saw playoffs last year
vega has been getting picked first most these fights tho
Bro he can't get hot when his heros aren't played
So was shu and chorong
even when he's on hitscan he gets diffed by the goat quartz
š
quartz is better
i mean yeah quartz id a freak
The problem is that toronto got no replacements for different metas
They go shamb
like look at these numbers
Put Merit on hs
It all changed when the winston was pulled out
Quartz rolled him so hard
oh yeah this map exists
No Def not it was close map and toronto kinda sold well
that king's row game was insane
he did
but stalker put quartz in a bag too
Gg
only lip may be better then quartz
lip and stalker are better
but quartz top 3 hitscan
stalker not on hitscan
he diffed quartz on hitscan so idk Gg
š
bro got widow gapped
I didnt get to full tm vs falconq game
Proper on widow better than quartz widow
viol2t washed no?
in that map quartz just had a genji on him perma while stalker has a pharah
thatās cuz itās proper
he's an unc
both were shooting the other he still got shit on
We got who on echo?
nah toronto is just trolling
why is merit on echo
surely a spawn joke
Raccoons stomp them in the meta
Problem with toronto is just merit inconsistency and Vega meh
there's no way sugarfree plays widow
Like
Just go gib unironically
he has a solid jawline
And heesang diffs him ngl
he just did lol
Yikes
heesang heard your cries
i thought heesang was frauding rn
He was
or did he pick it up
lmao toronto are gonna get 3m
Well
he's not mental boomed anymore
Cr are full holding them
bro clutched up
oh this hurts
And cr are gonna get shit on by falcons again Gg
Wait heesang is getting ultra value
Wait merit
He built like a 30s ult
I'm sorry goat
I'm so sorry goat
Toronto is good with dive but not Mauga vs Korea

