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Told you TD crutching so hard on dive against non Korean teams
š
only dva
tdās best map by a mile
Gibraltar is another widow map too
bro is trapped in the pharah mines gg
cooked
Shii he plays dva that's about it
Even in NA. They always went dive maps cuz they know they suck
But dva is just a rush hero tryna fit in
quartz soloes i fear
no monke cant win
i am rooting for him
I mean u can play widow on gibratler but still
Btw be excited for quartz widow on this map donāt get pissed
already
Gib? Quartz plays widow
Gib is definitely a widow map
quartz kills 5 every fight trust
wait ngl
someone just primals 6
ā¦huh? Who said Iām pissed?
quartz gotta 1v9 again
Youbi might get subbed
sadly
Who
meant that not seriously
FUCJ
trust in Quartz magic
youbi coming in for tracer?
I think you sub youbi over forcing pharah
No please
youbi is the worst tracer I have ever seen
doesnt he play sym mei
on this planet
Or lbbd7 plays exho
Bring back lbbd
on gib š
lbbd on mei?
Whatever you do
WE GOT WHO ON TRACER
Donāt play youbi
dont play youbi and they can win
they should just kick him
quartz kills 5
off the team
twisted minds and their famous mei player, lbbd7!!
lbbd7 only play phara, right?
Twisted minds win condition: bench youbi
Lbbd7 is in for youbis heros just get bro off the roster š
Man that #8 next to TM
their win condition is letting quartz kill 5 and keeping youbi locked in a cage
Lmfao it really is that
yuh
always work on the big moments
which is not a bad win con quartz is insane
Proper on shock ass team
unfortunately his other dps is shit
Lbbd7 tracer
his backline and tank are decent
they are well coordinated
at least
decent isnāt worthy for his level of talent i fear
itās unfortunate
lbbd7 mei
I'll say it tvnt isn't even tht bad he genuinely gets no care
that I agree with
Lbbd7 mei>youbi mei?
Omg itās the SSG comp
tvnt decent af
Remembering that time when in owl s5 they put junbin on bap and everyone pocketed proper
the plan is keep quartz standing so his life is just a resource to help quartz carry
^
thats what they should be doing
hes top 3 hitscan
bliss is actually pretty good at his job maybe I'm just biased bc I like all ms players
let him cook
who's top 1 and 2
Lip lip quartz
Lip 1) 2) pge
PGE 1
The darklord
He's already 70 on primal again wtf
my top 3 are hmmmmm lip quartz and wsps!
damn
gross stagger
This looks cooked
TD picking dive maps tells you how inflexible they are
Bro just go echo
And they have someone
why didn't youbi sub in
How dare we play our best map
No no, Iām just saying they suck
this is lowkey ironic
considering how TM cannot play dive either
can you not say the same for twisted??))) they are dogshit on this map no fight zero clutch only pushed cus quartz got one
^
gosh guys can u believe a team playing in the biggest event of the year is tryna use every advantage
lbb only plays one hero
ig winnable for tm?
mental gymnastics to making the winning team look like they are bad
when the losing team gets shit on badly
Cuz youbi sucks
I mean illois and gib are winton comps no matter the meta. And being known for being āflexibleā when you only good on winton maps is ironic. Tm isnāt even playing meta.
he's a better mei than lbbd
can someone explain the mei pick?
? tm is legit playing meta
He was never known for being flexible anyway
its to get to map 4 faster
then why are u flaming an NA team for playing the hardest comp in the game
Huge eat on the ana nade btw
at least they can play dive
Pharah Ashe isnāt meta. Reaper echo is
its good and it works and i'd say its part of meta
they are flexible, but tm are stronger in the brawl maps
Whats the play boss
Itās someone merit. Hardly na team
3 of them are NA technically
Its mcd bliss hardly an emea team
Yes
Bliss MCD hardly and EMEA team
toronto are cowards for picking gibraltar against a team that can't play dive š
Players
toronto is best in dive, quartz and friends are best on brawly/open maps
cowards for playing the hardest comp in the game
toronto are cowards for wanting to win
YES YOU SEE IT
bc theyre too shit to play dive
rupal getting creative?
what i've noticed about ow esports compared to other esports is how little camera uptime there is on the players
let us see them more production 
its too hard to grasp
He gets a little funny
superior korean winston genetics dominating the off tank only TM squad
so now TM choose a map for mauga
truth
r/Amitheasshole. Reddit AMA for playing to my teamās strength in the most important event of the year?
LOL
? It just infekted
yes ur the fucking asshole play fair loser
You're trying to win? And make more money????
Oh I was thinking only tank players
don't sleep on the lhcloudy winston
cloudy is a rein otp
but I respect him hes a goat
just dont take him off of rein
Rupal a part of the sneak nation confirmed
You guys are funny. All Iām saying is they never win unless they force dive maps against non Korean teams. So flexible shouldnāt be what theyāre known for.
they are probably going suravasa
Yeah, letās hibernate on it actually
Haven't seen cloudy on Winston since contenders
You guys suck
you haven't seen his doom bro
He played winton?
he cant aim for his life i do not want to see it
iām sorry
The rein players play winton?
Yeah bc icy was a rein otp back then and revival played double main tank
i donāt forgive the take tho let the goats play dive
Na contenders got a little freaky
What goats? I sure hope you donāt mean TD
@sugarfree
tracer one trick
LMAO
KEV???
lmao stomped
this map was probably the one time quartz went negative this whole tourney
toronto have way better players on paper
They going flashpoint? NJC?
so this is not shocking
it's all part of the plan
at all
TM wins 2 in a row and takes the dub
no eu team can beat dive teams on gibraltar its just not possible
cuz theyre too shit to play dive
always been that way
yup
their fightplan for gibraltar while being coached was āPut lbbd7 on mei and then prayersā
No way the chair is back
truth
compared to dive it is 10000000000000% ooga booga
They play it really ooga booga anyways
also true
the only time saudi won was during sig mei sym meta
EU is good at brawl but at the same time don't understand brawl
LET HIM FIX THE CHAIR
quartz is better player for sure
It's such a weird thing
I wanna see Danny sit on it
that king's row match was insane
mer1t was scared for his life
quartz is way too good for tm
but hes getting an owl contract
mer1t is washed
so I dont blame him for staying
prob cuz no else in NA can contest him on hitscan if he cares
gg
nah ban imports bro
100k$?
Bro tryna make owcs lame
then eu and na will absolutely never win a title
the one who seeks
Yeah tariffs hell yeah!
only guy
I love seeker
so all teams get stomped?
Youāre trying to gut TD?
idk I just heard hes on an owl contract so I assume it is above 50k usd
tbh i think the game would be so much more fun if you cant get players from other regions. like a peak eu me team would go insane
the good players are too spread out and there are no good eu supps
Oh the owl contract. Yeah mayhem offered 100k$ but he refused it
sirmajed landon funnyastro
i dont even think u can make a team to contest falcons and CR on paper
Landon is American
Falcons has sirmajed so he ruined it
none of them are remotely close to the koreans
lol
is he?
sirmajed doesnt even play
Yeah
somehow
i just want eu to stomp na
i didnāt know for over a year
Too late for tht man
we're not beating koreans anyway
well looks like EU will get knocked out first so
Just go next
fraud region
i swore he wasnāt na
ban imports
we're on runasapi?
then see what happens lil bro
ksaa chase kev quartz sirmajed funnyastro
Ur best team rn needs imports
is runasapi push
literally just get kev quartz seico vestola ksaa and korean supps and thats a good roster right there
ffs
then this team would have slay again š
yea that's why they are first
SSG got knocked down by a team with an EU import
I invoke saudi oil money to win this map
ITS so easy
forgor
Why would you want Vestola on the same team as ksaa?
what does vestola even play
cuz hes the only other good eu tank I can thnk of at the moment
literally as if itās simple
toronto cock blocked shambali so sad
Ksaa heroes
anyway new map
real
ive seen him play sig dva ram orisa and mauga
money:
You need imports to make the regions enjoyable otherwise EU and na just make one big super team and the region is ass to watch
the arabs are all rich
and zarya lol
Nobody wants tht
Yes but have you seen him play them well?
sig dva he is among best in the world
he's decent at orisa and ram i think
Hmmmmmmm ok
mauga ok
all the money and their best results were 1st stage one and then third place stage 4
vestola lowkey carries ence when he gets to play sig or dva
cuz no one smart run their teams
Give me a blank checkbook i will bring home an eu title
If players just don't wanna play with you ur cooked
I will bash their heads together and force them to succeed
It's always Lenny time
Iām waiting for that genji OWCS skin
I will miss my childs birth for Lenny's birthday (this is a joke I swear)
DADDYFREE
Lenny to locked in
Why did tm pick runasapi? Donāt they pick NJC?
Ence lost because they dropped all their finnish players lowkey
Is masaa Finnish? If so he retired so
Rip
they lost cuz the roster is ass
He realized he was too old for ts
Oh cmon. They only dropped ghost91, masaa, crowd, sauna, and Vestola next
how can u have kevster and kai is his second dps
itās like quartz and lbb
just torturing these poor players
lbb is good tho
his phara is phenomenal
I believe! This is the biggest comebackable map
yeah he can only play one hero
bro is a otp it's impossible to be good and an otp
whatever
Lbbd7 is a ttp
Omg lbbd7 is so ass
i aināt even watching anymore and i just know he is
QUARTZ š
I GOT MY TORB SKIN
quartz is playing the final of his life
Rupal and bliss wasted ults lol
DADDYFREEE LOOOL
Quartz might make the comeback
yo wtf
LOL
LETS GOOOOOO
Unlike
LOL
Nulucky
HOLY SHITY
GAMES ON THIS MAP ARE ALWAYS PEAK HOLY
omg quartz needs a real team holy shit
ewc flash back
HOLY FUCK
NA PLAYERS
LOL
Quartz just killed everything
LOL
NA PLAYERSSS
the roof dash lost em the map
SAUDI ON TOB
i hope tm wins
Yeah Lenny fucked the blade
SHTI
just cuz that would be peak
SAUDI ON TOB
I BELIEVE
holy
i actually cannot believe this
I FUCKING BELIEVE
holy I'm so glad I made it here
Lenny fucked up his blade and quartz killed everything
QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY QUARTZ DADDY
YMMM
Somebody check him pc
QUARTZ
EMEA is not down!
Chill guy continues to 1v9
EU STILL HAS A CHANCE
I said this map is such a comebackable map
whats up with teams throwing ult winning fights against tm first ssg in kings row now toronto runasapi
no
He lowkey is just a chill guy who likes to click heads
wait TD might be mental boomed now
Like ik ball fr
what you guys think
QUARTZ is popping off
toronto should clutch
they've been gassed up as the best NA team
Nah if I would give Toronto anything it's their mental
š
What map is next you guys think?
quartz is the goat
Besides merit I don't think I've seen any of them really boomed fr
tm is lowkey getting top 3
if mer1t booms and he lets quartz hitscan take over the map
they're done
quartz is insane
TDās comms: this mf!
holy fucking shit
They can't
they had ray and rally and still lost wtf...
quartz diff
Waaaa
which gamemodes are left?
š
Clash flash
last map, last chance to getting the top 4 at least
oh yea
Clash flash
mauga mirror then probably
Momo overwatch
Both in Tmāz fav right?
Cuz these teams arenāt playing reaper
eh
only cuz it's TM i feel
Also true
it's better than the earlier mauga metas
came back to the first map 5
will say that much
It's just bc genji echo and hitscan
diddyfree fucked the blade
absoultely crazy
They did the same to racoons at ewc they only won tht map by pure luck
Quartz gonna cry
it's the 2nd time he dashe din the air too
imagine if quartz didn't have a pharah one trick as his dps partner
ok calm down
^
Quartz said that
imagine we get TM vs CR
they better be fucking healing him
Lol
?
Flats > quartz
š
NJC
i need TM to win so bad
I donāt blame him for yelling that. He was behind wall waiting for heals
real it would be peak
new junk city
wait
ugh this map is tuff for pharah
Lol I called it
tm got this, right??
isn't pharah dogwater on NJC
I said theyāll pick NJC
Hopefully
pharah is ASS on njc lol
lbbd7 is prolly gonna be the weak link
they lost pretty hard on this map yesterday to one of the korean teams
yeah crowd went fucking nuts lmao
Tm vs NRG could be peak as well but I want the Toronto rematch
unless he somehow does something on mei
Keprhii and gale vs lip and quartz who wins
Still winable
watching this live is so hype
PGE sending all his aura to the freakster
PGE comes in and 1v4s
but it was Falcons, i mean the second best team in the world
just don't go mei again
pge needs to send all his aura to quartz
yeah. but still rough map
real
i'll trust in them
Why is Bowser in the crowd????
I mean it was #1 against #8
Like a wwe off script appearance he appears with a chair and smacks it in keprhiis back and then rkoās lip
so-called mer1t "aura"
tbf tm are the best eu team so
i'm fuckin surprised NTMR got swept
Lmfao
this is the first match that goes to a map 5
if i were at this event, i'd be wearing my philly fusion hoodie š¹
LOL
yeah td is just running the comp falcons did against tm on njc
Surprised? Shock has the darklord must i remind you
Our first game 5 btw?
His presence is felt on the battlefield even if he sits on the bench
Yes
i luv pge but i ain't a stan
was pretty dissapointed in ntmr š
and shock was so lost day 1
Quartz plays Sym first point
when itās 2-2 and i look down and check my watch
They weren't lost they just played the best team in the world
wait quartz on sym
i think they did that last time
They have no other choice
yep, for the first point
lil bro is a pharah 1 trick
why are they putting a hitscan goat on sym tho
check quartz too
Why did I come@back to tm taking td to 5
Bro Lenny tryna discover new genji tech mid match
Lbbd7 so silly
What are these dashes
you NEED to see the runasapi game
Quartz carry v
get the fuck off sym š
?
Figured
toronto had 128m on runasapi while TM had 0
If td win nrg lowkey takes it
finally quartz on ashe
Honestly idk
he's goated but keep him on hitscan
Quartz is insane
If tm win I wouldnāt be that upset
Same
Quartz and lbb been carrying ngl
Dude just watching people chilling before a fight than suddenly seeing Quartz in kill feed
I mean I kinda have to root for them cuz they're the last EMEA team lol
I don't hate tm bc youbi is never on my screen
Bliss is the real carry
See you get it
blesssss
I think not
so many ults for that flip
TD has better ults here tho
Yeah
oof
Wow BOB what an ult lol
I'm ahead I forgot
start of 3rd point
Nvm
we got ults we got ults
Wow TD
oh
wee have barrage!
LENNY ITS EVERYWHERE
daddyās home #TeamUSA
gg
whoās home
Bro genuinely couldnāt have done more
them 2 dive maps fucked tm up
How did you daddy???
Close match tho
S U G A R F R E E
yeahhhh daddy free
NOOOOOOOO
FUCKKKKKK
Damn gg TD
Tm had a insane run
Itās so sad
EMEA is dead now
Quartz gapped tf out of merit
1/10 bait
Holy cope
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
How tvnt got that flip I'll never know
DANG IT
Man Iām so sad
even through rally š
no more EMEA
The goat sugarfree
Lbbd7 ws just disabled on that map
Merit was finals mvp in owl23
All roads lead to defiant
and people say saudis are annoying
Yeah bad map for pharah
?
quartz has to be crying in a corner rn
Normal ass ss
Lol beautiful Vega
imagine if TM got a top tier flex dps
Man why tf is Lenny not on the mic
imagine if TM didn't have a pharah OTP
Get checkmate on tm
lenny literally won them that map š
Someone is fan favorite
Heās too emotional. Probably crying in the back
they would went to 5th flashpoint
They need to replace mcd
with who
Dude itās not even mcd bro wtf. Itās the pharah pick on NJC
they need vigilante to come back?
Na just do slay
he can't really play anything else tho? š
Nah they're scared he's gonna talk his shit too much
that's the problem
I mean they cant bring checkmate icuz they have 2 koreans already
Yeah unfortunately.
Very limited
Maybe lol
i really like the pharah tho
Oh Toronto get an hour break bc the road map reveal
say what you will about TM but that runasapi game was amazing
it's just the map selection is realelly bad
Oh true true. Just bring in Naga
quartz my goat
tm matches always fun to watch
I mean tm is prob richer than virtus
2025 ANNOUNCEMENT
Kellan vs someone
i heard tm and falcons pays the most
Wtf is virtus? That thing doesnāt exist in ow
I would think CR, Zeta, and definitely FLC get paid more
saudi money
are cr and zeta big org in other games?
ive heard of zeta before
Tm saudi krg
These teams arenāt owned by the government btw
Ye
Itās own by individuals
Iāve seen zeta in other games definitely
Saudi princeš¤š¤
What org is owned by a Saudi Prince?
I think I saw cr and falcons on rocket legue
Me
Wait is TM owned by a prince?
MAAAAAN
sugarfree MVP??
Quartz never wins mvps
he deserved it this match
the way he was deadlifting
Even when owwc was def Quartz, they decided not to have one.
He deadlifts every game
can they even give mvp to the losers lol
will owcs exist next year?
i wonder what changes TM will do
If they have a rule against it, itās stupid.
Its often just best performer of the winning team
Weāll have an announcement for next year.
Which is lame tbh
oh nice
I think so but winners are obv favored
I think mvps should be individual performance
but everyone knows that he's the trully mvp
Dude could get gapped but still get mvp cuz his team won
Yeah I guess
deserved mvp
Dude this TM series was fun af
Sad tm lost tho. Wouldāve been amazing if they beat TD
Imagine stage 2 with ksaašš
I mena dallas
Its a bit subjective
Dallas? Ksaa in mauga meta with Quartz? Omg I wonder if theyāll get top 3
that gibraltar game fucked them rly hard
they lost in like 5 mins lol
Itās not MVT So
In finals its almost like a unwritten rule that mvp is from winning team
Oh cmon bro thatās so bullshit. They didnāt lose in 5 mins
It was more like 3
I think its a rule
Lenny was doinh best on toronto tho
don't you think the ban system of the EWC would be great in the OWCS?
I think everyone loved the system. It was implemented the right way
Especially in hindsight when you look at this dogshit meta it would bring variety
imagine if they banned mauga
TD was able to beat Zeta cuz they used the ban system better than ZETA
If the meta is great and has variety its not needed but that rarely happens
MORE EVENTS?
3 lives events in 2025!!!
I donāt think itās more lan events
Nvm
oh, that's suck
SORRY
Wwwww
oh cool 3 lans
More lans than owl
3 lans 
no worry, im happy!
4 with ewc
Yeah was about to say
true actually
more overwatch the next year
promotion and relegation 
So contenders is back
Streaming more games means streaming contenders
TEAM SKINS IN 2025
Relegation prob only for emea and na cuz faceit
@static turret
thatās what Iāve been asking for!!
lets goooooo
Thats huge
Teams are actually incentivized to join
Finally
a partner program is great
I was gonna be so mad if there was no support system
overwatch is so alive
Honestly
Copping ence skins asap
Cr skins
what happened to EMEA
idk but they mentioned a partner program with OWCS teams in 2025
They havenāt announced yet but Iām guessing the top teams ofc
and that they would make skins, sprays etc
Died in flame of glory
lost 2-3 to toronto
Quartz almost carried his sorry ass region to 3rd
Also lowkey funny that tsm dropped out of owcs cuz they were unsure about the future and then owcs drops this gigabanger lol
Wdym? Tm should be getting it anyway. Definitely one of the teams that would get supported the most
damnnn
TSM was asking blizzard if there would be this system for them to stick around but they didnāt reply. So they left cuz they have no idea if this would happen or not
Team colors means mvp skins possibly
i wish i could be following the games as they happen instead of waking up to liquipedia notifs
I like recolors
Meaning lip could get a skin
My favorite skins are epic skins
I know thats why its funnyā¦
PGE APPEARED ON STREAM
Ok so when is the system implemented�
Next owcs ?
2025
need my PGE skin
January?
Maybe
This years owcs started in like may
Ok NA was the worst in Dallas but EU was at least fighting
TIME TO SWEEP THESE SHIT ASS REGIONS
The dude said it starts in January
OCE might clear EU at this point
after these shitty performances today and yesterday
YES I AGREE CLEAR EU BUT NOT TM
Does oce have enough playerbase for a 5 man roster
yeh we could get some diamonds together
Lol
Quartz put on a legacy performance from stage 4 until now
hey
I hope he continues
Bleed esports with divine99?
he needs to be put on a better team
insane talent
He prob doesnāt want to
With vesta?
No one is matching tm salary
Doesnāt bleed have schwi
TD
Wait the match is starting
Do you think cr falcons or td want quartzā¦
Here we go
All of them have a superstar on hs
What? Iām saying they pay their players more
CR need a HS fr
Cr needs pge
Falcons have 3 HS they donāt need Quartz
My point was that all of the high salary orgs have an elite player on his role already = none of the existing orgs can match tm salary
Maybe falcons but tbh stalker and proper good enougth
Yeah thatās true.
and they also have happy
Happy kinda washed
certified bench warmer
Ok so it becomes more of get a proper team on quartzās tm than Quartz going to a proper team
i knew there were skins coming considering they were removing the owl ones
Remove youbi pray ksaa returns
So smart
He isnt played over stalker or proper but is still a great hitscan
Remove mcd sign checkmate
Big Brain indeed
Find a decent flex supp
Boom
Quartz, Naga, ksaa, mcd, Bliss. Already looks like a much better team
jehong lol
Heās 37
None
Gg
i know lol
ryujehong?
ye
holy unc
lol
all of EMEA is dead bro
I know but like wtf
NTMR is na bro
wdym
Two esport games in a row where Eu is worse than NA at worlds
have you seen his gameplay lol
TM is better than any NA team but TD
ye it was fine but not what he used to be obv
It wasnt good
Iām tired
clearly not since both SSG and Ence got swept by NTMR and NRG
Nah
Tm swept ssg too
it was ok but you could teal he wasnt it anymore
that too
I lowkey think nrg cooks tm and Toronto
In ewc it was kinda close because all 3 emea teams were better than all NA teams except td
Tm isnāt playing meta so ofc itās harder for them
"In the 2025 season, OWCS will be ditching circuit points, with teams qualifying for each of our three international Live Events directly through their regionās playoff performance."
But for this tourney i cant even cope

we suck
but in Stockholm it wasnt
yeah ik
yeah the anti meta
ye
ā¦the anti meta would be what NRG plays.
JQ not ball
yeah that was wild playing JQ into Mauga
it was 3-1 but yeah
Sheās good into him tho
So itās not wild
i think its td>tm=shock>ntmr>ence=ssg
She counters him
in this meta
Iād agree
ye it was just interesting to see
Yeah
they swept nightmare
Iāll just say that Iām very glad itās less and less reaper
Ofc
No he was on Cassidy
Tracer just to join last fight
He's on tracer on my screen
it was close
Brih
I'm on second point
Why does nrg throw
catch up lil bros