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honestly the weak link is vega
prob his best is Illari or idek
if toronto had chorong its joev
Vega on Lucio and merit off hitscan means the enemy team has a non 0 chance of winning
lol
What exactly is different then the teams
The entire format is different and kinda hard to follow now. Emea and NA have 4 stages and Asia has 2 stages with each stage ending with an Asia only lan
Seems sugarfree is a tracer one trick
Avg na flex dps
btw is there a reason Achilios doesnt cast anymore?
He does
where
he cast asia
He was casting for Korea region
gclef achilios ninek and wolf cast English Asia
he is actually one of the best casters he should cast more
Yeah I like his casting fr
He Casts APAC games and since apac is over i think hes done for the time
unless he casts in Sveden
I hope he does
he prob will
I like the EMEA and na casters but the Asia guys are so much better
I had no idea sugar free played anyone besides tracer
Tracer is his best hero and she's been meta more than genji
He was the best dps at one point back on ATL academy
but lenny genji is very good
Damn
Never knew sugar free was a genji player
But then again
Except he didnt play in the World Cup
holy just as you say this 4K
I assume every flex DPS has to know how to play genji
orisa meta is soo boring
Ntmr too locked
NA is a Fraud Region
This map is so cursed
the ammount of times ive seen a reverse sweep on this map is too many times to count
Yeah
seems like it
yup
Nah for real
Somethings wrong with this map
New Junk City is the Reverse sweep map
happend twice to my glorious london spitfire
ye
it happened in the Korea vs Finland map as well
I jinxed it out of a Reverse sweep

I want Infekted to win na so bad
ntmr up what
2-1
this is the second time theyve been up against Tor
Ntmr has improved so much
pls Nightmare win Na for us
hopefully not this time'
They must've hit the 8 hour vod session
Toronto struggling on anything not dive
Nightmare want to dethrone Tor so bad
I’m not gonna say they’re struggling but ntmr is just that locked in
I meant they use to have it so easy. Now they’re sweating
Oh yea
Toronto deserve it after their CEO insulting the entire region and just winning the region all year it would be nice for some dethroning
lol
Zeruhh is so underrated dude. He’s very good. Top NA fdps no doubt
Insulted?
What happened
Yeah that guy is cooking
I’ve always thought he was good back in the FMCL team
He’s a good ass genji
He basically said the region had no competition because theyre all univerity kids so theres not point in practicing against them
And then they lost to nrg
Thats when we were think Toronto was dethroned
Ntmr@is a good team tho
And NRG were the next top team in NA
He was right at the time. NTMR leveled up tho
Infekted showing he’s actually good
Their entire team is good
Well it’s gib
Tor should win this
ntmr won the dive mirror map one
Yeah but he said it right after getting reverse swept by NRG Shock
it's possible
Gib
What map ?
Illios
Yeah but they won on kiriko Lucio
🔥🔥🔥
Not Ana brig
True
It’s so funny seeing TD using gib as a crutch
took a minute but found it
I’m so proud of our team. Though we lost we showed that we have some of the best players in the world. We literally have no competition in NA and are scrimming against university kids and that week in Korea gave us the juice that we needed. But it is tough to improve as an NA
Good for them
Canadian lip on the widow
Toronto ceo I’m guessing
Wtf is that skin Rupal has on
thats the CEO of Toronto Defiant
Ana hero skin
Power ranger skin
He deserved it and his replies were all roasting him
like it one thing if the players insult the other teams but if the CEO does it, it looks rlly bad
Don’t belittle people who just beat you. That’s a good advice to live by.
Is that lip???
exactly if it was just the players that wouldve been fine but the CEO that just looks like a poor loser
White boy Winston
If they lose on gib
White Boy Fearless
I fear they need to hit the gameplay review
the Funnies part i learned is he Own Mad Lions Koi who got beat up by the Vietnam Region
Nah ntmr is actually locked
i’m soooooxhype
He forced merit to mirror
Them thinking they’re just that ahead of every na team is gonna hurt them
Yeah their Ego will hurt them at the end
How did cjay live???
Spite
its funny how 6 years of OW this year i actually rooted for NRG Shock after having to hate them for years
I fear someone might be the only one taking this seriously
maybe
Ntmr hella good tho
And I think they could take on 1 or 2 teams at Stockholm
Non na teams
Tm and ntmr seems like it could be good
Honestly
I think ntmr are better by a decent amount
Well actually
Omg merit
They have a better tank
If quartz is in the lobby they have a non 0 chance of winning soo
better hitscan but ntmr has the better fdps
Mcd is trash
Toronto finally realized they're down a map
Vega actually crazy wit the brig tho
Keep bro off Lucio and it's always winnable
Eeww
Wait white boy Winston
Nah this backline is actually insane
bro I thought admiral caught the pulse with his shield for a second
they had to spawn camp to win the map lol
To think na would have the best match of the day
fr
EU a simple 4-0 stomp and NA with a banger and were not even done yet
today in Esports NA > EU
It’s 4-0 but the day before was 3-0 for the other team.
Near Airport is better than Early Uber
i mean today only
Yeah but at least you know it’s not one dominant eu team
SSG and ence always going back in fourth in series not maps lol
Yeah i know theres at least 3 but usually 2 making it the finally most of the time
Mhm it fr use to be 3 when TM had Ksaa
if its game 7 maybe otherwise eu cause tm vs virtus
TM is still ok but Vp look better
yeah outside of the Finals Eu is more competitive
tm vs virtus higher stakes better storyline so eu better unless we get game 7 giga banger
it was almost a reverse sweep for VP
sadly quartz too good
yeah
it was so close just Quartz got more picks when it mattered when they about lost
holy shit the stagger is crazy
they about made it point 2 for free
oof the bob wouldve been good for contesting
prob shouldve waiting a bit
Yikes
holy shit winnable
holy
Niceu
actually crazy if ntmr robs toronto from the golden road of na
they didnt win Dallas so it cant be a Golden Road
I mean it is for the region
They've won every stage so far
Is this stage not over?
this is the Final for the Stage
Yeah
ofc its a final Map
So Toronto this year only won 3 out of the 4 stages
Map 7
ofc its a Map 7
Why is this the best ow we've seen since asia
Our shit it’s 7 maps
its not
I thought it was 5 maps
Finals are first to 4
You actually forgot about VP v TM?
Grand Finals go to 4 not 3
I thought NTMR snatched their chains already
nah
Erm I don't like tm sooooo
ngl even though its map 7 for me atleast it doesnt feel like a giga banger series
Tor will win next map. Ntmr will choke hard
Man you and your logic always
It's not logic it's hate
lol
💀
I'm tm has no haters I'm 6feet in the ground
Yes.
Yeah
ye NRG did
Thought they didt after the lost
Hopefully the meta in 5 weeks helps them play better
ye
Ah
ye
How tf did tm make it
Unfortunate
We just need a sig meta so Kellan never has to play
i dont think TM made it yet
Quartz got the one map they needed with youbi
i mean only likeable parts about tm are tvnt and quartz
they did
Hey, that’s fine by me. We got TVNT.
EU is over alr
Bruh that crazy
You don’t like bliss?
Why people hating on bliss?
Ntmr go hybrid and draw for a map 8
aint flashy/ gimmicky / good personallity
Maybe? I just like him from Dallas fuel days
he is just existing and playing
That applies to almost every Korean player tho
I expected ntmr to take out Winston on push
Mainly bc the language and cultural barriers
Bliss was on Yeti before Fnatic ruined them
nah not really
Man I remember that one huge stall he did as Lucio in flashpoint. He lived for so long! Lol
and he was good
I wonder if this was cuz fate left
Leejaegon Tower
Yes bliss is a good player guys
lyarjang
Viper and Fate left then Fleta had to be Head Coach
I mean look at a guy like heesung who had a nice performance last stage but nobody talks about him
mid season
Aight time to disappear
Fleta did fine given the circumstances mid season coach change
Kinda same with Finn who actually talks about Finn despite him being a top 3 fsupp on his region
heesung is a rookie though and played like 1 stage or something
Fleta is a coach he does a lot of coach stuff but I think that his first as a head coach solo
nah finn is talked about
I don’t think he had anyone else
Never seen any Finn glaze in my life
I must not be tapped in
Fleta was the Assitant Coach before Fate and Viper left
finn decent flex supp
very good kiriko
then he became head coach
i mean he did considering Fnatic about 3-1ed team Falcons
ZERUHH
prob thought he would be a better optiion
Wait is that Jinmu???
I fear ntmr might win this
Ammeng ???
Overall experience ya he just had better comms with knife tho
We don't fear we celebrate
Synergy
🔥
yeah they kinda just disrupted the synergy
especially backline
as good as they are when you come in hhalf way
it cant be helped
The urge to queue after watching this but then I remember the game sucks for me
i did that today but just for the Anniversery event
holy shit if toronto loses
I want ntmr to win so bad ngl
i hope so
I remember watching Infekted back in contenders and trick room
Now he might win na
Well
Trick Room Booomed the Shock lol
Y’all might have jinx it
seeker deadeye needs to be big
Oh
You jinxed it by mentioning the jinx
it was not big
If they lose I'm blaming you
It very common when we say a team is doing good they do the opposite a second later
ye its the Caster Curse
They said na was dead 🔥🔥🔥 (it is)
this is an exception
Map 7 1-1 last point
na has 3 cool teams to watch
omg 7 11 thats the most na shit ive seen
Nrg in stage 3
NRG Nightmare and Midfiant
Toronto ntmr and fluffy dreamland
we used to have M80
Is that ans and rascal????
but they disbanded
and there goes the first fight
Lip and heesang???
Carpe is that you???
Why is seeker farming
its prophet that one week he dominated
I thought eqo and carpe retired 🔥
BIG
Holy shit
Holy
Zeruhh carry
zeruhh = sparkle in the genji meta
NOOOOOO THE DEFLECT
Yikes
Oh my
AWWW DAMN
Sugarfree
@static pond it's ur fault
What a series
lot of really close games recently
Seeker fault
golden road of na is complete
Seeker actually threw tho
Seeker lost the last 2 fights
Seeker try not to die first every fight challenge
Real shit what was he even thinking
IMPOSSIBLE
Ok but seeker had a insane performance
are you rlly trying to use League quotes lol
The entire series
its a team with infekted why didnt they play mei
No mei players
He played well but he also died first so many times. Like the most to die first
They did way better than ppl thought tho
that cheese kinda caused them to lose
He out in the open a lot
They locked tf in
fr not a one team region anymore
Why did seeker shoot into the deflect tho
Ngl tho
the voices
the Gap is closing
Toronto doesn’t seem like they’re getting better but every other team is
maybe ow moment just having visual clutter so he couldnt see it?
NTMR love choking on last map
ye
the Gap of NA is closing finally
Next is lan right ?
yeah
Stockholm Sveden ye
in a full month sadge
Last tournament grand finals I think?
ohhh nvm lenny just came from an angle so seeker couldnt react
ye
Wonder what the meta is
we have to wait a lot for peak
now i have Worlds while i wait
40 deaths and 36 elims@is potm?
36-40
thats the goat for you
hmm
In two days we'll probably find out unless mid season shakes it up
Also Lenny robbed idc
DUDE
sugarfree player of the match though
It seems like ntmr just did better ngl
MERIT IS NOT THE PLAY OF THE MATCH
Lenny was turning fights with every blade
Merit was getting gapped and picked off a lot
Now we see why Infekted left nrg
POTM was seeker if ntmr won, POTM should be lenny
Bro seen the potential
yup
Bro got a team full of demons
Can we get the interview?
I wanna see Sugarfreak
NRG did Reverse Sweep Toronto but Nightmare about Dethroned them
Seeker finally got the team he needed
Bro was on the worst teams ever his whole career until ewc
Seeker did win Flash Ops
True
YOOO KOREAN INTEREVIEW
Yk damn well merit ain't saying shit
against the Toronto / American Tornado cursed team
they are relieved they didnt lose
Someone looks like he don’t wanna br here lmao
Bro used to smile everyday before he came to na
Bro mad asf he almost lost to a na team
Why merit kinda cute
Midfiant strikes lol
I see it
Why is someone's mic so shit
Bro ready to go home
He did not wanna do this
Damn
He lowkey calling them shit
ye prob
Definitely would've talked sum shit
We gotta show some Korean love tho
Someone actually gonna lock in?
The stage is set in Stockholm 🪄
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Rip nrg
Nrg vs tm confirmed
We never ever gonna see tornto vs falcons
Can't wait for cr vs falcons
Again
Wait isn't this just the same as Dallas but ntmr instead of m80 😭
Similar matchups too right?
Cause falcons got 2nd seed in dallas and first seed for stockholm
There’s gonna be elims bracket?
Wait why is tor vs ence actually heat asf
Cr vs nrg😭
its literally just gonna be the NA killer bracket
Last time sugarfree was still shit
lol
Sugarfree didn’t actually do good until ewc ngl
Different meta and different roster for ence
Toronto lost bc they were ass at the mauga shit
toronto v ence and ssg v ntmr should be good matches
unfortunetly shock and tm not beating the koreans
upper semis gonna be bangers
Quartz had to go crazy just for them to barely get here
yup
I think Toronto takes Ence
And NTMR vs SSG definitely gonna be a banger
Idk how much zeta divisions has improved since the EWC
but I feel like Toronto and NTMR will be able to take a map or 2 vs CR and Falcons
ntmr not beating ssg though
well it M80 was against SSG and Tor was against ENCe
falcons v ssg and cr v toronto/ence gonna go crazy though
lol
yep
Waitttt… I just checked the pristine silver rolex on my right wrist and it’s says “LennyTime” What does this mean??
Quartz is the goat
Tm and shick is cooked
Yeah
I’m afraid they’re getting 4-0ed
PGE vs Lip
Youbi vs Stalker and Proper
Isnsane match
ok good
falcons cr opposite sides of bracket
thank god
TM getting first rounded lol
OMGGGG
Is there a lowerbracket for Stockholm or no
there is
@split flume is there any team that might be a surprise
but finals are also over a month away so meta shift 
Might be #interesting
if it's hard dive again CR sweeps
i think the only way for a non-KR team to win an international is for it to be like
the hardest brawl meta since goats
the things we must do...
pge going home in a body bag bruh 😭
same with TM
😭
they are getting absolutely farmed
Nooo
Fr
Wait falcons vs tm lol
quartz might win that then imo
Ye
They are cooked 😭
if the orisa juno comp is still meta at stockholm falcons gonna be untouchable

bernar 🐐
The only good players on the are Bliss and Quartz
i think the main reason zeta went to 5 maps against falcons is because of bernar
heard bliss is supposed to be a crazy good brig
bliss is fine imo
maybe he's crazy good for EU 😭
also fair point
ssg vs ntmr and toronto vs ence both have a chance of being bangers
or they might end up 3-0's 
toronto vs ENCE will be good
idk about ntmr havent seen them play
they beat toronto on ilios with dive twice now and whenever toronto couldn't force dive ntmr won
infekted might be the second coming of super
imagine NA or EU beating the koreans at dive...

Idk about untouchable
They could very well lose to CR
well yeah
That match came down to the last fight
untouchable*
And it looked like CR was gonna win it too
smurf lowkey leveled up his monkey in like two weeks icl
But it would legitimately be nice if a NA or EMEA team could compete with CR and Falcons
He did look good
he went from being actively detrimental to keeping falcons in the game on ilios
I sincerely doubt this will happen but I hope so.
there should have been 3 KR teams at the LAN lol
at least
i think a big reason why having two korean teams is so bad is, beyond the fact that korea's the best region, having Zeta and poker face would make more internationally interesting games because toronto/ssg could actually beat Zeta and poker face
I remember like 2 months ago where stalker took a break and falcons wasn’t looking top tier with at all with Smurf and Happy
toronto already has beaten zeta
Yeah
Toronto, NTMR, Ence, and SSG
Could have great matches with Poker face and zeta
Hell Toronto vs Zeta in the World Cup was one for the ages
more opportunity for games like this if zeta and poker face are at international lans 
Looking back at it, that match was very unfortunate
Fearless deserved to go to the finals
viol2t got paid
I hear people say that
I don’t get it
Would he not have gotten more money if he made the EWC finals
someone on twitter asked viol2t why he jumped as bap in shock's game against atlanta in owl 2021 playoffs and he just responded "i got paid"
Is viol2t the oldest OG
Or is there someone that’s been in the OW pro scene longer than him
Who are some new guys that have quickly rose up?
infekted
Any top OWCS guys that’s currently only been in the OW2 scene
well technically infekted's been competing in like tier 3 na since 2021
And not the OW1 pro scene
xzodyal is pretty great i think
most of the top level players have been around since at least ow1 tho
there's heesung on zeta
proud on poker face has been around since 2022 just before ow2 came out
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That Bell Sponsored Toronto Defiant Check hit him like a brick
too funny bro
Is this channel for owl only or can I talk abt collegiate league playstyles
if we still did mvp and rookie of the year id have
infekted
proud
????? Z from ntmr
mvp: shu
i can’t think of a single rookie support
literally
ive been doing organized ow esport play since i was a newbie (like a year and a half/two years) as i never did ow1 but ive been able to climb thankfully im just figuring out the meta again cause i took a break for most of this szn
i hope next szn i can talk abt owl with yall :)
Hi guys who ican join a scrim ?
Pretty sure there’s a scrim channel
Where is it ?
Under team recruitment
I cant find it
do i need to get out of the kitchen or am i not using enough spice
I think ntmr beats twisted, even if no visa issues (which I doubt)
I don't think falcons v ssg will be a 3-0 either, atleast not both times for sure
judging by the 4-0 ssg vs ence yesterday
they seem like a very strong team
Ssg can have a pity map
ksaa gave ssg the flexibility they needed to do better vs Korean teams imo, plus this meta is really good for them when they have backbone who is the goat on sym/mei
I think ence can beat TD too but that might be just eu bias from me
hopefully the fact that ssg struggled against TM on the lesser played maps will also encourage them to practice them a little bit more for stockholm
cause on the maps they actually practiced it was just a blowout
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here, click on "Team recruitment - (your region)"
I thinj these matches depends on the meta
only really unclose map between them was ilios
If it’s a dive meta Toronto makes it pretty far
They lose to cr and falcons every time tho
If it’s a brawl meta other teams def do better
Toronto and ntmr the only good non korean dive teams
But bc this is ow2 we're gonna get a brain dead meta that lowers skill expression and tm is gonna win due to some cheese
Actually the worst timeline
i hope diva or ram bcomes meta tbh
would be funny if a korean team got stomped by eu
Falcons and cr wont get stomped by eu no matter the meta
ntmr take twisted
i will always have hopium no matter how good korea looks
that’s my only critique
also we don’t know the meta yet, if it’s dive then this will be very different
if it stays brawl it’ll def stay this competitive
honestly no copium
tm imo played the more fun comps this stage then the other eu teams
put quartz on the widow
made it so entertaining to watch
were ssg put sparks on tracer to mark quartz instead of an actual mirror
Brother they literally played hard meta
quartz played ashe everywhere except a couple of busted widow points
as did ence and ssg
TM and VP played more pharah than most teams but i wouldnt call that fun
I want an EU or NA team to win but I don’t think they will
Also it’s a shame how there’s only 2 KR teams
Surely we can have zeta over tm for instance 😂
should be 3 but tm have a very respectable qualification
especially after losing half of their circuit points with ksaa, slay kellex leaving
and winning a stage
still somehow qualifying when other teams basically took their circuit points
idk how the rules work im just looking @ team quality
i just like pharah comps tbh and its so fun to see the quartz widow
would be really unfair if tm didnt qual
but it is kinda bs that korea dont have 3 spots too
ig it is to not fuck up the bracket
ya exactly
they're the best
if its still this meta I think falcons is just sweeping everyone though
korea should have atleast 4 spots
going off skill
6 even tbh if we increase it to a 12 team lan
that could challenge the top western teams
Guys
No 4 is too much
zeta and pokerface are just as good as toronto
Only falcons and crazy raccoon deserve to always go the other aren’t guaranteed to win
But zeta lost to them
So maybe not
Yeah by a fucking hair because viol2t threw
but you could obviously see that they are on the same level as teams
If we go off skill the 8 team split should be 4korea-2na-2eu and ngl i can see ntmr losing to fnatic or the mag team for sure aswell
The fact that your standard for koreans not deserving to go is "they aren't guaranteed to win" just proves my point
📠
You do know ntmr beat fnatic, right? You say 4 Korean teams but two of those teams lost to NA teams. Not even EU. Fnatic lost to ntmr, a team that’s totally an underdog in the tournament
Oh my god can you read
You say zeta is as good as Toronto, well so is NTMR currently
Ntmr beat fanatic in a 5 mapper that couldve went either way, they deserve to make lan if ntmr do
and theyre the 5th best korean team
Ntmr chose to mirror the dive. That’s why it was close
5th
What other thing would they have played LOL
But ntmr are good now. They’re better for sure
The meta?
You know winton dive wasn’t the meta, right?
Toronto are also way worse this meta compared to ewc
Right?
They couldnt play the ewc meta well
No, they’re not worse. Ntmr is better
at all
So even tho they were “bad” at the meta, they took fnatic to map 5 and won? That’s very impressive from an NA team
Fnatic didnt play the meta either
Yeah the 2nd best NA team vs the 5th best korea team are on the same level and you think its fair that korea gets 2 spots compared to NAs 3
They were bad. That’s why.
Neither of them are good? Ntmr would finish 5th in korea
they wouldnt even make the asia lan
both zeta and pokerface are better than ntmr
and they didnt make stockholm
Ok so we’ll just pretend outside of raccoon and falcons, the other Korean teams lost to NA.
not even mentioning shock who are worse than ntmr
Yeah zeta lost to toronto and toronto actually deserve to make it power rankings wise
NA has a single team who can play up to top4 korea
You just say they’re better because you think they’re better. It’s orisa meta. Everyone is better
And Toronto is struggling against ntmr rn so I guess that makes ntmr good enough?
Or do we only count old games for some reason?
Did you watch the NA finals
toronto arent playing well at all
WDG doesn’t make 3 slots
i dont think either pokerface or fnatic is better then eu top 3
I did. NTMR are so good.
ntmr have improved but toronto were way better off on the ewc patch where illari was broken
and so beat zeta
Yeah well that’s not really a measure of skill level
The most important thing is the better Korean teams are going.
Yeah doesnt make it fair power rankings wise?
Go back to what i said at the beginning
and there should be more korean spots
No, 4 slots for Korea is absurd
Period
3 KR spots at least
How is it absurd skill wise explain to me
doesn’t matter anyways falcons or cr are just gonna win who cares
I would prefer if the lan games were as close as possible
Well even then, although not favored, zeta has a 50x higher chance of beating the top2 koreans compared to like pgeshock who qualified over them
yep 100% agreed hence why I suggested 3 KR slots
not really sure how you can argue against that unless you lack critical thinking
wel, no dva nerf, but there is a rein nerf
is this enough to finally get landon back on his goat hero or will he still be doomed to brig jail
I don’t think the meta will change but it depends how sombra is gonna be used now imo I guess, can’t say until we see pro gameplay on new patch
go go gadget chris theory
Do you guys thibk pink or rose gold mercy will ever come back
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#letitreign
it never fails
It came back years later so maybe.
How much damage does a ramattra pummel do?
60-65?
i remember when you were a ksaa hater
i never
hated
ksaa
i only hated youbi
well i still hate youbi
wasnt ksaa's contract with SGG a temporary basis?
u called him shit before and said he would get stomped by any korean tank
everyone does
Real
If youbi has no haters, you're wrong bc I'll hate youbi even in the afterlife
where would u guys rank ksaa vestola and hadi from 1,2 and 3
i dont get it
bruh my name in overwatch is hadi and everyone thinks im him
reminds me of when people thought my friend was the actual super back in ow1 (we were in silver eu lobbies)
the funny part is when i play 2 mins in the match, they type "oh hes not the real one" which hurts me 😂
hahaha
Cant say much abt ksaa cause I havent seen him play or heard much of his performance but I'd put Vestola over Hadi, he's a world class dva/sigma/ram, and hadi's not as good at the heroes he plays compared to the best of his role, no?
Apart from being the best rein out there
hadi and vestola are different roles how could i compare them
i’d give ksaa the slight edge over vestola because of what he’s done in the past
im confused :p
how would you compare their orisa, ram and mauga then?
yea i agree
Currently I think it's probably
- Ksaa
- Vestola
- Hadi
Compare them to the highest level of competition on their respective role - ksaa and vestola are closer to the top of offtank players than hadi is to the top of MT players
At least I'd say that makes the most sense if you want to compare players on different roles - look at the difference between them and other players in their role
even if it might be more blurry now ig they are still considered different roles like fs and ms
What do u guys think 🤔
im thinking its beter then sonic the hanzo, and there's more then 1 skin atleast
True
will the OWL skins come back into the shop?
When will we get old ow 1 contenders skins in the shop?
they really dont want these players getting paid
yikes
all are released rn but by 9 December no more coins and probably soon after all of them get stripped for im assuming OWCS team and other OWCS related skins
they are gone rn
fire
mei 
if this was a mercy skin the owcs winners would get paid living wage tho
its at the bottom of the shop Screen
True they should have made it for a more popular hero
they shouldve chosen more popular characters
tracer makes sense but maybe change Mei and Junk
like maybe Kiriko Juno Mercy or something else
is this the mayhem champ skins or the owcs finals bundle skins?!?!?!?/1
is that even confirmed cuz i dont see them in the unowned/locked category of owcs
orisa hadi, rein hadi, mauga hadi
mauga is close but there wasn’t
a single “good” mauga they all just played mauga
but that’s all because hadi plays MT not OT
lol
i actually love this and will buy mei and tracer. not a MVP skin though
i am nooticing the mayhem colors istg im not crazy
I honestly feel like ram and orisa are their closest tanks
I didnt watch the final but in the upper bracket final it didn’t feel like either of them were noticeably better than the other
and I remember ence and ssg games always being close when a lot of ram was being played
Hadi is probably much better on rein and winston and vestola is probably much better on sigma and dva though
Ksaa did perticularly well on mauga in stage 1 I think
no but the OWL
its at the bottom of the shop screen you just need to scroll down
could be the reason for the colours
i will prob get all
the junkrat skin is literally just the mayhem ow2 skin though right
if any university's out there looking for a gm hitscan dps player @outer rivet is currently a free agent, feel free to dm me or him with any offers, any offer that's not above 6 figures will be ignored(he is a also looking for an abg gf)
Except his Hair actually has Colour
what is wrong with u 😭
Same with Tracer and Her Grafitti Skin
Mei is the only skin that doesnt have a similiar one
abg 
would it be alright if we made a dm group together? So that you can show us your ways?
Only if you like Chinese propaganda
yes!!!
hate that i fall within the exact category for abg
just call me vivian tran atp
im gonna get mad if you cant buy the mei skin separately
i dont want that ugly ass junkrat
dude I really hope you can buy the skins seperate. the mei skin is so fire
Mom:
We already have Mei-hem at home
Mei-hem at home:https://youtube.com/shorts/LJBosPqPA4E?si=J50V7lide_519Gi7
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ove...
the forbidden mei play
i cant remember but is this the one they got carded for
thats a good thing tho
It's hard to hear over the music, but this was the game Paris Eternal was allowed to defend again because of the illegal maneuver - they still lost Circuit Royal
Do we know if this year of OWCS was a success?
Or exceeded expectations
Cuz I was hoping in the future we can have more than 8 teams in the international tournaments
is this play still doable or can you not put wall up there anymore?
It might have been fixed?
Nobody's stopping you from doing this as a group, and I'm sure the eichenwalde rein charge spot should still work too
si
I mean kinda?
2 Asia lans 3 international lans if you count ewc
still broke
game still sucks
but at least the esport isn't completely dead
A lot more orgs joined in way more than what I expected
some new orgs even were made
NTMR just getting created and rising all the way to number 2 in na is wild
Who did you guys vote for for mvps?
They were FMCL before becoming NTMR.
Just a new tank and fsup
But Z is still there
#PGEFORPRESIDENT
bro I think he might win cuz of that alone
😭
I’d be disappointed
i'm gonna vote for him or lip personally
So…you’re trolling?
Lip I 100% understand but PGE?
yeah hes my goat
PGE when we have seeker, merit, Quartz, LIP, Stalk3r, and Proud?
think it'll be funny af seeing pge win it
You don’t even watch NA
I love his character
What is it?
he's just a goofy guy
Nice
I voted pge na mvp but lip for dps
Lol
he just has aura
This is so cooked
fax
bro you think popularity awards are actually based on ppl skill
vote for Youbi, surely 



