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static turret
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Last time i watched a tsm match king solo emp and they used nano to kill a ball

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And didn’t kill him

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And lost the fight

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At that moment

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I knew tsm was fried

glass sleet
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Great grand finals

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Now lethal better play on NTMR over seeker

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Seeker needs to be the player that gets swapped in when lethal is with his gf shopping

static turret
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Unless lethal decides to stay with timeless

glass sleet
glass sleet
static turret
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Maybe he enjoys them more idk

hybrid hollow
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Despite lethal being insane it's also a prime example of why widow is a problem

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They lost that fight bc they just one tapped

static turret
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I do agree that widow is an issue but he’s also going against a low tier na team

glass sleet
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Let’s see you headshot someone while ram is on top of you

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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Best dps on the planet

static turret
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I can vouch

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I’ve seen the widow gameplay

glass sleet
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The perfect package

static pond
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Was zeta running zeta??

hybrid hollow
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what does that mean

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it just hit me the ram and brig bug are gonna be patched Tuesday

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the meta is actually gonna shake up a lot

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rally and form get nerfed bc the bug gets patched out + probably other armor nerfs on top of that

static turret
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What even is the armor bug

hybrid hollow
hazy marsh
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ok so

hybrid hollow
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That's why Brig can tank pulse in rally without being full hp

hazy marsh
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it happens because

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2 pools of armor

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1st one works normally

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other just halves all damage by 50% instead of 50% up to 10 dmg

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so when ram uses nemesis the armor he gains from it works normally but in turn his base armor turns into giga armor

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and when brig rallies her rally armor works as it should but her base armor turns into said 50% reduction flat

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also dont only watch the first minute, hes reading a tweet and then says "...and this was wrong"

hybrid hollow
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Oh I seen that vid but didn't click on it bc amaterasu

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after that Kiri vid bros word has been invalid

hazy marsh
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huh?

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the ones from 8 months ago?

hybrid hollow
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Yeah

hazy marsh
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i have no clue who this dude is

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what happened

hybrid hollow
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He said Kiri wasn't strong pretty much

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And he compared her to soldier

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A part of me still thinks that video was the best rage bait ever

hazy marsh
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well, this is factual evidence instead of opinionated crap

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hybrid hollow
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he's redeeming himself

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Learned his lesson

hazy marsh
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good for him

static turret
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He said solider healing pad was stronger than suzu

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Crazy take

sullen berry
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How did FaceIT EU finals go

static turret
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Ssg 4-1 ence

hybrid hollow
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Watching tommathan go thru the vods and viol2t is actually senile

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He was behind cover, seen Bob, and walked right in front of bob

static turret
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Watching some of these players

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They look like plat sometimes

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Violet is ass😭

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Bro is doing diamond level plays

hybrid hollow
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Bro should've retired after s6

static turret
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So it’s clear
Falcons and cr

Every other Korean team

hybrid hollow
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This wouldn't even be a question if the playoffs weren't single elim

static turret
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Riveting ram gameplay

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1 punch every 4 seconds

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And proper hits a diamond level flank and it works

hybrid hollow
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That high skill punch and block cycle

static turret
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Bro

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Falcons making zeta look like a low tier team

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When they aren’t 😭

hybrid hollow
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Flora looking like you Ashe rn

static turret
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👀

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How do they even block like that

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And cycle like that

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I try it but feel 10x slower

hybrid hollow
static turret
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Even tom is confused

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Bro is trying to figure out how exactly they died

hybrid hollow
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Wait tom lowkey nice with it?

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Nvm

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He washed

static turret
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Nah

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Hanbin was getting silly

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Fielder beating down on bernar

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Aura

jovial wing
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@steady gorge i miss him

wise orbit
static turret
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Didn’t ence 3-1 them and send them to the losers bracket

wise orbit
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yea

hybrid hollow
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ENCE for a free map point and still got swept

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Sad day for ENCE boys

wise orbit
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yes

static turret
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Stage 4 when

static turret
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If anyone wanted to know

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Stage 4 is this month

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Unless it already happened

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And I’m just slow

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Stage did in fact not happen

wise orbit
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swiss stage starts this friday

wise orbit
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I'm gonna root for ence but if ence doesn't win i rly hope vp does because it'd be rly cool to have a different winner for every emea stage

calm topaz
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Wait so how can you get owl tokens?

glass sleet
hazy marsh
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no advertising in this channel

static pond
weary scarab
static pond
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sullen berry
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The Fnatic fallout is real

static pond
hybrid hollow
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Damn team so ass Fnatic left overwatch

static turret
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Cooked

sullen berry
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nah fnatic cutting ties with overwatch is expected

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they really thought a consistent 4th place finisher was going to break it with the kind of coaching on this team

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so now they fold and should reconsider an EU roster at the start of next year

sullen berry
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only for Saudi E-league though, which won't get more than three people in this server to watch

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stats in china, meanwhile

sullen berry
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which is a rather mid team in the region

static turret
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Where will the fnatic players go?

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Retire?

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Or find a new team

static pond
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I want

static pond
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Ewww did they add clash as a mode in owcs

hybrid hollow
sullen berry
sullen berry
# sullen berry stats in china, meanwhile

https://x.com/KryixGG/status/1835354137430499497 and this is from games this past weekend but go read the last one for more context

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glass sleet
static turret
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Can they do that

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A full Korean team

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Either way they’re stuck with donghak

glass sleet
static turret
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Oh

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They could go to eu

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Form a roster and sign ksaa as their tank

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And there’s a lot of young good players out there

weary scarab
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lowkey a team with ksaa checkmate quartz sirmajed leejg would go hard

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but there are spectulations about ksaa moving to ence or ssg

static turret
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Sir majed ain’t leaving falcons tho tbh

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Unless they cut him

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It’s free wins on that team

weary scarab
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if sirmajed barely plays

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maybe no team would be interested inhim

weary scarab
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i just wanna see the goat in esports again

mortal cipher
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Hes only on the team because its a Saudi org

glass sleet
static turret
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Lik

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lol

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Not FeedJaeGon

weary scarab
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aye who else they gonna get from korea region

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for main s

mortal cipher
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besides before VEC game i believe Leejaegon said it was gonna be his last tournament

glass sleet
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Or Crispy

glass sleet
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Also TM players make so much money winning Saudi eleague every stage

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ROC has a chance making a decent roster with tred naga and xzodyal not being on GG

sullen berry
hybrid hollow
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Besides clash I like the map pool

sullen berry
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I don’t care for why clash is even there

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If you’re going all out you better be prepared for a lower team to pick it anyways to deny the enemy team going to flashpoint instead

wooden talon
weak frost
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but hadi dva and sig are a disaster

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so for ssg it would make a lot of sense

jovial wing
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how do i

weak frost
mental vine
hazy marsh
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what

runic socket
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Should I purchase game pass to get those Xbox rewards?

weak frost
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@weary scarab

weary scarab
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ksaa finally in again

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i wonder who they will be playing the most tho

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cuz imo ksaa has a better diva ram sigma

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queen

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what will hadi play

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no way they lost their korean supp

worn falcon
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good

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no one should go to twisted minds while youbi is here

weak frost
# weary scarab what will hadi play

ksaa might have a better ram but they will lose a lot of their synergy they have with hadi, i'd say ksaa will play heroes hadi is actually just really uncomfortable with like dva

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i think hadi will still play ram for them

static turret
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Also ksaa going to ssg is lowkey huge

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If they sign ksaa for their owcs roster

weary scarab
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they made an official announcement now

static turret
glass sleet
static turret
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That’s a very good team

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Ksaa can cover hadi weaker tanks

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Specifically dva

glass sleet
static turret
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But they both can play the ram so idk how that will work out

weak frost
weary scarab
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ksaa will play the queen diva for sure

static turret
glass sleet
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Ksaa has a top tier ram, Dva, sigma, JQ,

glass sleet
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Alright guys. I’m an SSG fan from now on

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Fuk TM

static turret
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Tm just lost vigilante to

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lol

glass sleet
static turret
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That team is cooked I fear

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Yea

glass sleet
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Wtf

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Who they getting?

static turret
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Idk

static turret
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See

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Idk if they cut him

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I can’t read that

weary scarab
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nah

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he is sick

static turret
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It could be personal issues

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Yea

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Rip

weary scarab
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he need his healthcare in korea

glass sleet
static turret
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Mhm

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Unfortunate

glass sleet
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I thought he left but I guess he’s just sick

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I thought tm didn’t want him

weary scarab
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bro yall know they type in english too next to the arabic one

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lol

glass sleet
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now they just need to have English commentary for Saudi eleague

static turret
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Has ntmr said anything about signing lethal full time

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To their roster

glass sleet
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I’m cheering for NTMR for NA

uncut drum
glass sleet
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SSG signed their best player ever

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I’ll be so mad if they don’t play him every game

weary scarab
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man i am a ssg hatewatcher

glass sleet
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He’s better than hadi on everything other than rein so why would hadi play over him

weary scarab
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i guess i have to be an ssg fan now

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would of loved it if he went to ence

glass sleet
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Even if ksaa is better. It’s a waste

weak frost
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team synergy is often more important than just individual skill

static turret
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We’ve seen super teams form

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And do horrible

glass sleet
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Ksaa knows the players. They play comp and scrims together so often. It’s not like he’s Korean who doesn’t speak English and doesn’t know EU style

weary scarab
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Ksaa hadi and ksaa seicoe already been on the same team

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they friends

static turret
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Eu and na keep getting better

glass sleet
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I mean hadi was on TM for Saudi eleague but he never played

weary scarab
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ow contenders 2022

glass sleet
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Seicoe?

weary scarab
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yeah

glass sleet
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I didn’t know that

weary scarab
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wait i thought ksaa and hadi played when on the sam eteam

glass sleet
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Thought Seicoe was playing in owl then

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22, bro hadi was on spitfire, wasn’t he?

weary scarab
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yeah

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i just looked in the ex tm roster

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and said ksaa and hadi were on tm at the same time active roster

glass sleet
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But hadi didn’t play a single game

wise orbit
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I think KSAA to ssg will make for a more well rounded frontline, since he covers some of Hadi's weaknesses

wise orbit
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I know he probably has a better ram, dva, mauga and sig

hybrid hollow
flat rapids
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}

glass sleet
glass sleet
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He hasn’t played for 2 stages, i really hope they give him a fair chance to get back into pro level

mortal cipher
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now itll be even funnier against TM

torn portal
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vestola officially the best second best dva in emea?

glass sleet
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Ksaa was the best tank in eu

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Idk how he’ll do after not playing for two stages

viscid hatch
undone hound
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any news about the pro meta after the recent patch?

weak frost
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hes played a lot of ranked + played in some scrims

glass sleet
glass sleet
glass sleet
weak frost
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yeah true but it hasn't been that long really, especially if he still played ladder the whole time

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if he was gone for like a year id worry about it but eh

glass sleet
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But hopefully he gets into it quickly

celest sandal
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hey folks

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do we connect here?

sullen berry
sullen berry
weary scarab
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damn ksaa resume insane

static turret
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Who let him in contenders

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He’s too good for that

worn falcon
weary scarab
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i wonder who they will bring in for tm

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cuz roster locks tomorrow i heard

summer canopy
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where can i find the Active player count for OW2 for the Switch?

glass sleet
rich grail
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any of y'all going to stockholm to watch?

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I believe it's the finals

glass sleet
summer canopy
sly haven
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hey yall. im looking for someone who can help me get better at the game. im bronze 2, almost bronze 1 but i think im doing ok and should be higher. is someone willing to watch me play and take some notes so i can know what im doing wrong and help me rank up?

weak frost
static turret
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Xzodyal is crazy

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He was cooking ppl that have been in the pro scene for awhile and this is his 1st year

static turret
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Like

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A decent bit

glass sleet
static turret
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Gg

wise orbit
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so when is ence signing a coach lol

torn portal
glass sleet
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Both Vestola and Ksaa played in owl

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Some people think they’re contenders players cuz that’s what they were playing before owl and contenders ended

hybrid hollow
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It's bc they were on mid teams unfortunately

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bottom of owl or top of contenders and they both chose contenders

sullen berry
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Just a reminder for everyone that Brigitte's VA Matilda Smedius co-owns Ex-Oblivione

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We are proud to announce @MSmedius as a new co-owner of Ex Oblivione!

At ExO, we are taking a new direction, and we are so proud to share this with you! 🎥👇

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wise orbit
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thats cool

glass sleet
glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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When owcs is still next week so you start watching cgl

static turret
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All these pick ups for nrg to solo

hybrid hollow
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I open cgl and there's 2 kills to dva bombs

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Console will always be console

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Wait ocie is casting woah

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W ocie

static turret
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Cgl

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Are these all xim?

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There’s only one person watching

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And that’s me

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Gg

hybrid hollow
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Plus that tracer was definitely controller

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Turning like they were observing the scenery

static turret
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Will not be watching zarya be played in coord play

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Nty

hybrid hollow
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Someone get maroon in the lobby 🗣️

static turret
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Are these gms?

hybrid hollow
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Probably not

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Wait nvm

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It's NA gm

static turret
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Gg

hybrid hollow
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NA and console rip

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I might be a new typa ass

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Nah I gotta hit gm now

static turret
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If these are gm console than idk what’s what anymore

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Yea I think I’m just fraudulent

hybrid hollow
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Gameplay so ass the stream died

static turret
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Gg

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Console not beating the diamond pc allegations

hybrid hollow
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Cannot defend ts

static turret
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Genuinely

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If you showed me a diamond lobby and a gm lobby they’d look identical

hybrid hollow
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The allegations are true I fear

rugged quest
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ksaa is better than ves on brawlier stuff

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ram mauga

rugged quest
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im sure vestola wouldve taken the 50k owl minium over charity work in exo

hybrid hollow
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Let me be delusional

rugged quest
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Ksaa played in a dogshit team on 200ping, no one was gonna survive from that rebuild

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and vestola is an avalla victim

rugged quest
torn portal
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clearly he’s being brought on for off tank since hadi has it covered

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in scrims it’s def all ksaa so he’s gonna be a threat

balmy hound
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What’s the best grand finals in OWL?

neat plume
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london winning in 2018

static pond
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OOOOOOO

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HYPE

deft wolf
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super excited

mortal cipher
glass sleet
static pond
glass sleet
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Oh yeah that’s fine

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That’s really good for them then

sullen berry
# static pond https://x.com/owcesports/status/1836970178149498985?s=46

Probably a coincidence it lines up with this announcement https://x.com/OW_Esports_Asia/status/1836661539673379238?t=4ho_bl1C7ikYO-nM8QiIMA&s=19

OWCS ASIA|Roster Update Announcement

Teams who advanced to OWCS Asia Stage 2 were allowed to recruit up to two players or make roster changes. With the submission of new rosters from each team having closed as of yesterday, the updated rosters will be announced on Friday,

sullen berry
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Since there's only two slots for Asia (it's gonna be Korea teams), the best of the best are underrepresented

static pond
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Wondering if lcrazy raccoon gonna get players

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Tbh thought they gun for pelican

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Bit viper is also a option

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Which I think moon likes a lot

sullen berry
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CR couldn't need more players, but maybe Pelican was out of their budget for the rest of the season

mortal cipher
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Viper might be what they go with because CR is basically from the ashes of Shanghai

static pond
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Just a extra flex would benefit them

sullen berry
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Wonder if Poker Face are going to do a last ditch signing

static pond
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Besides viper it checkmate

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I don’t think moon wants checkmate

mortal cipher
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They’ll probably get people from Fnatic

static pond
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Knife

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Is available

mortal cipher
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Moon might go for Viper

static pond
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Ya

mortal cipher
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Knife for poker maybe

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But knife or Viper for Cr and maybe check for poker

static pond
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If lip wast on cr it be knife

mortal cipher
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Yeah

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Then probably Viper if raccoon decide to add anyone because no other role is needed

static pond
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I’m assuming since knife did very good under fleta fleta and moon are close friends

mortal cipher
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Yeah

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Fleta was prtty good coaching and knife was rlly good

static pond
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I only see viper being added but idk tho it looks like the
Meta will be tracer and prob venture

mortal cipher
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Yeah we’ll see

glass sleet
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Checkmate for Poker face would be really good

rugged quest
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ssg as a whole got way better on dva comps with this signing though

glass sleet
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When is OWCS

desert fractal
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shit

desert fractal
sullen berry
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EMEA & NA Teams should be this weekend

weary scarab
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the eu swiss stage begins today

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group staged starts 27th

weary scarab
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Ahttps://x.com/OWCEsports/status/1837060980146090321

🇰🇷 @KNIFE__OW adds some extra firepower to @crazyraccoon406's DPS line.

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man i wonder where checkmate is goig

hazy marsh
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teams making big moves

tropic plume
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best tanks rn?

torn portal
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should be good

torn portal
hazy marsh
mortal cipher
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I guess it was knife after all

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Kinda forgot that Viper is on Victory Esports lol

weary scarab
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for owcs

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man how didnt checkmate get a team

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i hope get somehwo got picked up by an eu team cuz man

hybrid hollow
worn falcon
mortal cipher
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Jerry from Boston ???

mortal cipher
worn falcon
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and Ivy

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and Persia

limpid venture
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Anyone down to join my team for the OWCS Open Qualifiers I need 4 more

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@ me here if your interested, I dont care what rank u are

tropic plume
hazy marsh
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Ram is played a lot rn

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one of the reasons for that is that his armor is broken rn and actually reduces damage too much when he is in nemesis

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Out of the tank players I can only name Junbin and SOMEONE since I haven't really watched the others play

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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If it isn't tracer he's not tryna play it

static turret
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Double flex meta rn

hazy marsh
weary scarab
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confused why they picked up knife instead of checkmate tbh

hazy marsh
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn falcon
hybrid hollow
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Vision over chopper is kinda crazy tho unless chopper left on his own

static turret
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Maybe he went to another team

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Wait

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Weren’t vision and raiker on timeless

mortal cipher
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maybe

hybrid hollow
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This is the second time timeless gave tsm their roster

static turret
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Gg

hybrid hollow
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I think everyone besides lyar played on timeless at one point

static turret
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Still wondering where my goat lethal is going

static pond
hybrid hollow
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lethal to Korea

static pond
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Like a week ago

static turret
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Lethal vs pge when

static pond
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I thought they pick up viper

hybrid hollow
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Nope it's knife

mortal cipher
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Viper is part of Victory Esports which i forgot

static pond
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He 100% would leave to join cr

mortal cipher
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Most lilely

static pond
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Wait

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Mmmm

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I think knife was originally known as a flex player

mortal cipher
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i mean Saudi teams are kinda basically the contenders / wait team

static pond
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I think that why they went with knife

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He started hitscan during yeti

mortal cipher
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yeah

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he was Yeti's Hs

static pond
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Ya I think knife was originally a flex player

mortal cipher
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and Heesang is basically Checkmate

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so no reason to get checkmate

static pond
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That prob why moon pick him up

mortal cipher
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yeah

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especially when he can do both flex and hs

static pond
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I’m
Happy for knife

mortal cipher
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yeah

static pond
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Apparently tsm was looking at viper

mortal cipher
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would be a good one

static pond
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According to the nrg video

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Unless he trolling

mortal cipher
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could be

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but also wouldnt be suprised

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Viper is good

static pond
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I love nrg for this

mortal cipher
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lol

hybrid hollow
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Everyone says pge

nimble flint
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what does lf ringer mean?

glass sleet
glass sleet
glass sleet
mortal cipher
jovial wing
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who wanna duo

viscid hatch
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IMO

mortal cipher
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that too

hybrid hollow
mortal cipher
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good question

runic scroll
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yo bring back owl

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owcs is so bad lol

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why is owcs viewership so horrible

glass sleet
runic scroll
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arguably better than saudi arabia fueled owcs

glass sleet
runic scroll
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lol ur so delusional owl was so fire city based teams is a great concept

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owcs is so buns

glass sleet
runic scroll
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yeah its owls fault that workers at blizzard got exposed

static turret
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Owl was cool until they prob started losing money

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The 32 Vancouver fans going to see their team play

mortal cipher
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OWL was fine til the franchising became unprofitable
if it actually made money worth staying they wouldnt have gotten cancelled
and offered like 2-5 Billion to leave

bright mulch
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.

viscid hatch
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If the game went in a good direction and covid didn’t hit, owl could’ve been crazy good

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And still would be

static pond
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Tbh I like
Owcs more just cuz there 3 regions

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Mostly cuz eu is mad interesting

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And the whole sponsorship thing

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Where blizzard was like called out for mistreating there employees

static pond
cosmic shard
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What is the point of PUGs?

glass sleet
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With full comms

mortal cipher
mortal cipher
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technically its 4 if you count Japan and pacific as two diff

static turret
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They all go into the Asia region

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Also when is China allowed in owcs?

static pond
static pond
static pond
static turret
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I only know of one China team

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I think they’ll just put them in with pacific

static pond
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There gonna throw then with kr prob

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China aleady plays on kr servers

static turret
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Gg

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More teams for kr to farm unfortunately

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Besides lgd

static pond
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No?

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You do know spark and hunters were very good at there peak

static turret
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Lgd is the spark

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lol

static pond
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Hunters were prob the second team to get hyper flex dps

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Besides decay

static turret
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Lgd is the 2023 spark roster iirc

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Guxue leave shy monk lengsa

static pond
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Leave

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He was proper before proper

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Spark was also good but they always had bad coaches tbh

static turret
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Placed 3rd in 2023

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Right ?

mortal cipher
mortal cipher
mortal cipher
static pond
mortal cipher
static pond
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Like they did in owl

stray quarry
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got the one shock fan in my game and then hard threw on accident

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im so cooked

mortal cipher
viscid hatch
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Make it more than 2 spots for the majors as wel

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Otherwise that’s dumb as hell

zealous kindle
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Where does Stalk3r place in global ranking of dps

hybrid hollow
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Lip Proper Heesang Stalker Pge

wise orbit
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Pge is number 1 what

zealous kindle
hybrid hollow
zealous kindle
hybrid hollow
hybrid hollow
wise orbit
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tru e

hazy marsh
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myyy goat

glass sleet
static turret
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Pge belong at the front

hybrid hollow
glass sleet
lean abyss
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Pink Mauga skin when?

static pond
mortal cipher
keen abyss
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all relevant results have come from playing alongside top talent and has rarely ever outshone them

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i'll take a player getting good results on a mediocre team over a player getting great results on a superteam

keen abyss
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lip gets excellent results on a super team that’s diff

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stalk3r plays on superteams lip is the foundation of the superteam

deft nacelle
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didn't they sign knife to play double flex over lip

keen abyss
deft nacelle
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I'm not seriously putting pge over lip btw

keen abyss
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obviously

viscid hatch
hybrid hollow
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Plus even if he's on a super team bro is performing at a top 2 level in the hardest region no matter how good his team is there's just a clear gap

keen abyss
keen abyss
weary scarab
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stalker>proper

keen abyss
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idk probably proper is a bum teammate

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what level of delusion do you have to be stuck in to look at falcons roster and say that isn’t a super team

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just bc they flopped doesn’t mean that roster isn’t a super team

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they’re just a flopping super team

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who didn’t live up to expectations bc

  1. flopper and chiyo likely regularly mentally boom the team
  2. stalk3r and Smurf are routinely outclassed
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you know it’s bad when fielder is the only person on the starting roster that im not flaming bruh im a fielder anti

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okay I’ll even it out fielder’s kiri wasn’t it bro is not him when healbotting your tank stops working

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you’re supposed to be the kiri guy and you’re getting gapped by someone who isn’t even known for his kiri

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that someone just so happens to be my glorious goat greatest flex support to touch the game shusus Christ but

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fielder was never him I fear

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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They were this top 2 power house but were losing maps to bottom teams in their own region and others until the end of last stage

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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Supposed to be

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It's just the standards they set

glass sleet
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They’re inconsistent.

hybrid hollow
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And imma hold them by those standards

glass sleet
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They’re sometimes the best team

glass sleet
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Seriously

keen abyss
glass sleet
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You give hitscan too much credit

keen abyss
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Atlanta would not have won msm with any other player

glass sleet
keen abyss
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that’s because happy is a bum

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always has been

hybrid hollow
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I'm with him on that one ngl lip was like a core piece in every team he touched

keen abyss
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look at Houston 2023

glass sleet
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I did

keen abyss
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switch happy and lip and Houston wins that tourney 4-0

hybrid hollow
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nah

keen abyss
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easily

hybrid hollow
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Even with lip outlaws lose that

glass sleet
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You’re saying they won 4-0 cuz of lip?

keen abyss
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yes

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lips sombra was easily the difference maker

glass sleet
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Maybe if it’s Sombra meta

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But happy didn’t play Sombra

keen abyss
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doesn’t matter

glass sleet
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That was on pelican

hybrid hollow
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Yeah happy played the tracer pelican played Sombra echo

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Pretty much the whole season

glass sleet
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And that’s why happy is a bum apparently. Cuz pelican played Sombra

keen abyss
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doesn’t matter switch either outlaw dps for lip

glass sleet
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The logic, I can’t find it.

keen abyss
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and outlaws wins that easily

glass sleet
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What rank did Atlanta get?

keen abyss
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better MT equal backline

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lip is the difference

hybrid hollow
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I don't think it was a player problem for Houston at all that season genuinely

glass sleet
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So how did Atlanta lose to Houston in 23?

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If he’s such a big difference

keen abyss
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okay but if you switch either Houston dps with lip Houston wins both titles

hybrid hollow
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again no

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It just doesn't work that way

keen abyss
glass sleet
glass sleet
keen abyss
glass sleet
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And lip is the greatest to touch his role

keen abyss
glass sleet
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Allegedly

keen abyss
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the difference between lip and pelican/happy

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is on average much greater than the difference between shu viol2t and fielder chiyo

hybrid hollow
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Lip is better than pelican and happy that's common sense but to say replacing one with lip and that team automatically wins everything is delusional I fear

keen abyss
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pelican and happy both were mid a tier players at best that season

glass sleet
keen abyss
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lip was the best player that season

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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Lip being on a team doesn't change that teams system, how they play fights or their coaching experience

keen abyss
glass sleet
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Pelican doesn’t know how to play Sombra

keen abyss
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atlanta crashed out because they refused to scrim other comps besides Winston sombra tracer

glass sleet
keen abyss
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and bc chiyo has the biggest ego in owl

glass sleet
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So lip lost cuz Chiyo ego too big?

keen abyss
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Winston tracer sombra wasn’t being played in playoffs

glass sleet
keen abyss
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non lip players insisted on only scrimming Winston tracer comps in first half

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bc they were winning on that comp

glass sleet
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I know the shit that Atlanta did

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But it doesn’t matter

keen abyss
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so you should know

glass sleet
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Those are just bad excuses

hybrid hollow
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This whole argument is pointless

keen abyss
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that 2023 playoffs was not a lip issue

glass sleet
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I see

hybrid hollow
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Ofc it wasn't a lip issue

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it was an Atalanta issue

glass sleet
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So when they win. It’s all lip, if they lose, it wasn’t his fault.

hybrid hollow
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And he's included bc he's on the team

keen abyss
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his role in Atlanta’s downfall was incredibly minor by comparison

keen abyss
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if they win it’s bc they’re lucky that sombra comp didn’t get nerfed to the ground if they lose it’s bc chiyo had a meltdown directed at his tank 5 times a week

hybrid hollow
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Either way

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Stalker is still a top 5 dps right now

keen abyss
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*weighted by the fact that he’s on a superteam

hybrid hollow
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Who cares about that he's still better than majority of their dps in the scene rn

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super team on not theres a visible gap

keen abyss
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I just think if you swapped stalk3r with numerous players on worse teams

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those worse teams would be worse off

hybrid hollow
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Not true

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You put stalker on Fnatic they're way better

keen abyss
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knife alphayi both prime examples

hybrid hollow
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Put him on poker face and they're better

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Put him on hjd and they're better

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You put any of those players on falcons they're maybe around the same or worse

keen abyss
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lip heesang Kevin alphayi knife flopper m*r1t all clear that stalk3r fraud

hybrid hollow
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Merit is inconsistent in the worst region

glass sleet
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Merit is ass outside of hard hitscan

hybrid hollow
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I love kevster but bro is like the most inconsistent thing ever off tracer

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kevster hit a good blizzard challenge: impossible

glass sleet
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Always

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And sugarfree does the same thing with Pharah

keen abyss
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mer1t and kevster also get like 10% of the resources stalk3r gets

hybrid hollow
keen abyss
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Vega and masaa crimzo holy moly

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poor guys

hybrid hollow
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Masaa and crimzo haven't played in like two stages what

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And Vega is ass

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I'll give you that

keen abyss
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last time I watched eu Mickey Mouse region

hybrid hollow
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All my homies hate vega

glass sleet
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Oh I see

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Bro thinks he’s cool he only watches Korean region

hybrid hollow
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Bro rating players he hasn't watched

keen abyss
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masaa looked like he was fresh out of a platinum ranked game

glass sleet
keen abyss
hybrid hollow
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I fear we got baited or this guy is actually delusional

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Maybe both

glass sleet
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Lol

keen abyss
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both

glass sleet
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Both

keen abyss
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still sad that my takes despite being out of the scene are better than the takes of people regularly keeping up with it sadly

glass sleet
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Anyway I gotta eat brb

keen abyss
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if you can’t see that swapping lip with either of Houston’s dps makes Houston win both titles that’s the real delusion bruh

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though that is partially luck based on flex dps being useless that year

hybrid hollow
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This isn't a solo frag game like val or something just adding more mechanically talented player doesn't make the team make better decisions when it mattered

sullen berry
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4-0 SWEEP THAT'S COLD TEAM CChttps://x.com/KenobiCasts/status/1837838228239303157

Nevermind Team CC wiped the floor with Oldest Pro 4-0 in an hour lol

sullen berry
torn portal
keen abyss
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real as fuck

weak frost
weak frost
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welcome back JohnnyG

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crazy how wasp didn't get dsq still

mortal cipher
sullen berry
static turret
#

@hybrid hollow Stryder isn’t on citrus anymore 😭

hybrid hollow
static turret
#

Why is zeb back

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But not Stryder

sullen berry
static turret
#

Bro is a top 2 ball in the region

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Sadly they won’t let him back

sullen berry
torn portal
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I miss him

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citrus nation looks strong now

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lethal is still perma benched he belongs on citrus

hybrid hollow
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He's probably making more money on ntmrs bench compared to starting for citrus

static turret
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I wonder how much they actually make

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I’m assuming orgs like Toronto and nrg pay a decent amount

wise orbit
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Nrg salary was leaked recently I think

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Kellan agreed to 1.7k a month when they signed him

deft wolf
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what

deft nacelle
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how broke is the pro scene

wise orbit
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yea its rly bad

deft nacelle
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how does he even survive on that

weak frost
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there's barely any money in ow rn what do you expect lmao

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ence gets like a 25 euro subway gift card a month

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only orgs that pay a decent salary I think are falcons toronto and maybe CR

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and ssg to a degree

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1.7k a month is still pretty good considering how small ow is if you're realistic about it, owl was just massively inflated, this is more in line with how it is in smaller esports

rugged quest
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same with ssg

sullen rain
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what do y’all think about roblox

deft nacelle
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Like what do they do if their pc breaks

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how are they gonna afford to get a new one

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1.7k is nothing

rugged quest
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you just wont save shit for the future

deft nacelle
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what do they do when overwatch dies

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atleast someone like pge has his streaming career

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are they just gonna have to work at mcdonalds ? 😭

rugged quest
deft nacelle
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I guess but what happens if overwatch dies

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do they just have nothing for the future

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no earnings

rugged quest
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either back to school or low threshold jobs

deft nacelle
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damn thats crazy

rugged quest
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Also in NA many players are on scholarships

deft nacelle
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why is overwatch e sports so dead

rugged quest
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so they get a free ride while having overwatch as a sidehustle

deft nacelle
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surely a game this big could be like valorant level

deft nacelle
rugged quest
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Also valorant is alot bigger than overwatch in 2024

deft nacelle
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like drama?

rugged quest
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but in overwatch you need to understand the game to know half the shit thats happening

deft nacelle
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Why dont they just advertise it to overwatch players then

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overwatch is still a really popular game

rugged quest
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theres a reason why cs and valorant are the most viewed fps esports

deft nacelle
#

but wasnt the owl

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really popular

rugged quest
rugged quest
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owl viewership was always bad relatively to the amount of money they were spending

deft nacelle
rugged quest
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there was a 20million entry fee to the league but the viewerships apex was at like 400k

deft nacelle
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crazy 😭

weak frost
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but idk don't these mfs live in like the middle of nowhere in iowa or some shit

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it's probably "survivable"

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but I was talking more about how it's not surprising how much he gets paid

rugged quest
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or school dorms

viscid hatch
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Lip was the gap

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And chiyo brig gapped viol2t

torn portal
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What happened to na man

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Timeless come home why do we have a team with durpee on it and another team named “Shout tuah” like what

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this region is cooked bro

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what’s crazy is that group c will most likely be the second most interesting group

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group d has the chance to be entertaining

static turret
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I already know who the top 8 gonna be

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Toilet bowl region tho

torn portal
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they disbanded i guess

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cuffa is on citrus now

static turret
#

Wallahi

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Lethal carried them in faceit and they realized they aren’t built for this

hybrid hollow
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You got someone, Kellan, attack, Infekted and clear even

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Then you got

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durpee

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a pge side character

undone hound
#

so why did Crazy Raccoon sign Knife?

static turret
#

Lip doesn’t wanna play pure flex all the time probably

undone hound
#

makes sense. looks like the meta is shifting towards double FDPS,

iron acorn
#

what's happening with the owl again?

#

it's just shutting permanently?

torn portal
#

he couldn’t carry his co workers

torn portal
#

almost a year

iron acorn
torn portal
#

thought everyone heard this but yeah

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on december 9th they won’t even sell owl tokens anymore

#

sometime 2025 all team shop skins will be unavailable

iron acorn
#

are there any other noteworthy overwatch e-sport things?

static turret
#

Owcs

#

Faceit

weary scarab
#

mcd to tm leaked

#

its joever

hybrid hollow
#

Tm try not to pick up a washed korean

torn portal
#

(he’s probably not racist but it’s just an ongoing joke)

glass sleet
glass sleet
glass sleet
torn portal
#

Official group stage for na!

#

Shout tuah you had a short life but you will be missed

static pond
#

No ntmr vs nrg boooo

torn portal
#

that’s for main event obviously

#

Why would it be

static pond
#

Wait what happen to shout

torn portal
#

except citrus vs tsm*

static pond
#

I’m curious to see how tsm does

torn portal
static pond
#

Meme?

#

Oh

mortal cipher
#

ye

hybrid hollow
sullen berry
#

They were so close and about to break into groups

mortal cipher
#

Plus that was the closest to having a non Toronto NA finals

weary scarab
deft wolf
#

Most hated team now

weary scarab
deft wolf
weary scarab
deft wolf
#

more than that no?

humble token
#

Since when did knife join cr

humble token
hybrid hollow
humble token
mortal cipher
north thorn
#

any girlies or guys wanna join a group to make new friends? DM me😊

stray quarry
#

youbi mcd double whammy

north thorn
#

any girlies or guys wanna join a group to make new friends? DM me😊

wise orbit
#

any girlies or guys wanna join a group to make new friends? DM me😊

hollow briar
#

Werent we supposed to get a new league bundle rotation today

#

The blog said zenyatta and echo were part of if

glacial brook
glass sleet
glass sleet
north thorn
#

any girlies or guys wanna join a group to make new friends? DM me😊

sullen berry
sullen berry
torn portal
#

🤫

static pond
#

This is a call for greatness to all of the would-be rulers ready to claim the crown for themselves.

"Heavy Is The Crown" featuring Linkin Park is the official anthem and music video for Worlds 2024.

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Heavy Is The Crown
From the album FROM ZERO
Written by: Linkin Park and Mike Elizondo
Produced by: Mike Shinoda
Co-Produced by...

▶ Play video
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PLZ OW GIVE US SOMETHING LIKE THID

rich grail
#

Who here will be watching the owcs world finals in person?

hybrid hollow
stuck tundra
#

Gotta question

#

Do you guys put sojourn in the projectile role or hitscan role

#

Btw does anyone know the og contenders coming back?

weary scarab
hybrid hollow
#
LIP

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Why did lip just drop his playlist 🙏🏾😭

static turret
#

My king

torn portal
#

i mean i would never do that it was removed

mortal cipher
kind cave
#

Wow is this channel unmoderated

sullen berry
sullen berry
mortal cipher
torn portal