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Great grand finals
Now lethal better play on NTMR over seeker
Seeker needs to be the player that gets swapped in when lethal is with his gf shopping
Unless lethal decides to stay with timeless
…really? Over NTMR?
He’s only on their team for FACEIT
Maybe he enjoys them more idk
Despite lethal being insane it's also a prime example of why widow is a problem
They lost that fight bc they just one tapped
I do agree that widow is an issue but he’s also going against a low tier na team
No, they lost that fight cuz he one tapped 3 times
Let’s see you headshot someone while ram is on top of you
If widow was an issue, she’d be played always. You don’t think Lip would play her if she’s such a problem? Or even Happy or Proper? It’s definitely that he’s just way better than TSM that’s a MID NA team no disrespect towards them
I can do it in my sleep
Best dps on the planet
Was zeta running zeta??
what does that mean
it just hit me the ram and brig bug are gonna be patched Tuesday
the meta is actually gonna shake up a lot
rally and form get nerfed bc the bug gets patched out + probably other armor nerfs on top of that
What even is the armor bug
Idk exactly but when ram pops form or alt and when brig pops rally the armor they gain is WAAAAY more than what it should be
ok so
That's why Brig can tank pulse in rally without being full hp
it happens because
2 pools of armor
1st one works normally
other just halves all damage by 50% instead of 50% up to 10 dmg
so when ram uses nemesis the armor he gains from it works normally but in turn his base armor turns into giga armor
and when brig rallies her rally armor works as it should but her base armor turns into said 50% reduction flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUi1ziiYBvY heres a vid by Amaterasu184 explaining it further
Very Tired man tries to explain how brig ascended to godhood
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Oh I seen that vid but didn't click on it bc amaterasu
after that Kiri vid bros word has been invalid
Yeah
He said Kiri wasn't strong pretty much
And he compared her to soldier
A part of me still thinks that video was the best rage bait ever
good for him
How did FaceIT EU finals go
Ssg 4-1 ence
Watching tommathan go thru the vods and viol2t is actually senile
He was behind cover, seen Bob, and walked right in front of bob
Watching some of these players
They look like plat sometimes
Violet is ass😭
Bro is doing diamond level plays
Bro should've retired after s6
So it’s clear
Falcons and cr
Every other Korean team
This wouldn't even be a question if the playoffs weren't single elim
Riveting ram gameplay
1 punch every 4 seconds
And proper hits a diamond level flank and it works
That high skill punch and block cycle
Flora looking like you Ashe rn
👀
How do they even block like that
And cycle like that
I try it but feel 10x slower
Korean diff
@steady gorge i miss him
4-1 
That matchup always goes both ways
Didn’t ence 3-1 them and send them to the losers bracket
yea
It was actually a 4-0
ENCE for a free map point and still got swept
Sad day for ENCE boys
yes
Stage 4 when
If anyone wanted to know
Stage 4 is this month
Unless it already happened
And I’m just slow
Stage did in fact not happen
swiss stage starts this friday
I'm gonna root for ence but if ence doesn't win i rly hope vp does because it'd be rly cool to have a different winner for every emea stage
You can take Jimmy out of Dorado but you can't take the Dorado out of Jimmy.
Wait so how can you get owl tokens?
By buying them
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The Fnatic fallout is real
Caught on to it like a week ago fleta removed fnatic from
His YouTube banner and intro
Damn team so ass Fnatic left overwatch
Cooked
nah fnatic cutting ties with overwatch is expected
they really thought a consistent 4th place finisher was going to break it with the kind of coaching on this team
so now they fold and should reconsider an EU roster at the start of next year
Ya was thinking this also
https://x.com/achtungbabeyy/status/1836072078417494520 WhoRU and PEPPI take the saudi bag
only for Saudi E-league though, which won't get more than three people in this server to watch
stats in china, meanwhile
So once PEPPI is done with Team XX (the closest team to go 3rd place in the tournament) he will make a move over to Victory Esports
which is a rather mid team in the region
I want
How much they get?
Ewww did they add clash as a mode in owcs
Is there still no official broadcast for pro chaser??
best i can find are Oldest Pro Coach Chen's VODs, since they're all uploaded to Chinese streaming sites and PCA isn't endorsed by OWCS at all
https://www.kryix.org/post/pro-chaser-association-week-3-recap
https://x.com/KryixGG/status/1835354137430499497 and this is from games this past weekend but go read the last one for more context
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Fnatic should go to another region if they want success
I mean pick up a new roster somewhere else
Oh
They could go to eu
Form a roster and sign ksaa as their tank
And there’s a lot of young good players out there
lowkey a team with ksaa checkmate quartz sirmajed leejg would go hard
but there are spectulations about ksaa moving to ence or ssg
Sir majed ain’t leaving falcons tho tbh
Unless they cut him
It’s free wins on that team
yeah but what happens in 2025 when they are announcing new rosters and shit
if sirmajed barely plays
maybe no team would be interested inhim
i just wanna see the goat in esports again
Hes only on the team because its a Saudi org
Ksaa, Xzodyal, Checkmate, Crispy, annnnnnnnnnnnd Izayaki (idk)
FJG No please
besides before VEC game i believe Leejaegon said it was gonna be his last tournament
Vindaim over FJG ngl
Or Crispy
Quartz won’t leave TM so easily bro didn’t leave TM to join mayhem so I don’t think he’d leave TM for a new team completely
Also TM players make so much money winning Saudi eleague every stage
ROC has a chance making a decent roster with tred naga and xzodyal not being on GG
Besides clash I like the map pool
I don’t care for why clash is even there
If you’re going all out you better be prepared for a lower team to pick it anyways to deny the enemy team going to flashpoint instead

I've heard a lot about ksaa to ssg, wouldn't make as much sense for ence cause vestola has a similar hero pool
but hadi dva and sig are a disaster
so for ssg it would make a lot of sense
how do i
RIP JJONAK https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1641336646
what
Should I purchase game pass to get those Xbox rewards?
@weary scarab
damn
ksaa finally in again
i wonder who they will be playing the most tho
cuz imo ksaa has a better diva ram sigma
queen
what will hadi play
no way they lost their korean supp
ksaa might have a better ram but they will lose a lot of their synergy they have with hadi, i'd say ksaa will play heroes hadi is actually just really uncomfortable with like dva
i think hadi will still play ram for them
Isn’t that the faceit roster
Also ksaa going to ssg is lowkey huge
If they sign ksaa for their owcs roster
they made an official announcement now
@glass sleet
NO FUCKING WAY
Ksaa is a better tank than Hadi
But they both can play the ram so idk how that will work out
i think team synergy matters more than slightly better ram gameplay
ksaa will play the queen diva for sure
Hadi has more synergy
Ksaa has a top tier ram, Dva, sigma, JQ,
Tbh, unless it’s rein comp, it should always be Ksaa
Alright guys. I’m an SSG fan from now on
Fuk TM
Seriously?
Idk
@glass sleet
See
Idk if they cut him
I can’t read that
he need his healthcare in korea
Feel better soon? He’s sick?
AYYYYYYY ENGLISH YOOOOOO
now they just need to have English commentary for Saudi eleague
They’re dumb if they don’t.
I’m cheering for NTMR for NA
man i am a ssg hatewatcher
He’s better than hadi on everything other than rein so why would hadi play over him
Nah they have vestola who plays the same tanks as he does
Even if ksaa is better. It’s a waste
team synergy, they've played together for ages
team synergy is often more important than just individual skill
Nah, that’s not something ksaa can’t do. It’ll just take them a bit
Ksaa knows the players. They play comp and scrims together so often. It’s not like he’s Korean who doesn’t speak English and doesn’t know EU style
Eu and na keep getting better
When
I mean hadi was on TM for Saudi eleague but he never played
ow contenders 2022
Seicoe?
yeah
I didn’t know that
wait i thought ksaa and hadi played when on the sam eteam
yeah
i just looked in the ex tm roster
and said ksaa and hadi were on tm at the same time active roster
For Saudi eleague
But hadi didn’t play a single game
I think KSAA to ssg will make for a more well rounded frontline, since he covers some of Hadi's weaknesses
How do their winstons compare?
I know he probably has a better ram, dva, mauga and sig
Wait this is actually so huge
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Never seen ksaa play winton but hadi’s winton isn’t good either but maybe better still
When I said Ksaa needs to go to SSG, I guess I was right on
He hasn’t played for 2 stages, i really hope they give him a fair chance to get back into pro level
now itll be even funnier against TM
he’s actually the best pickup you could possibly make, especially if dva stays meta
vestola officially the best second best dva in emea?
What happened?
any news about the pro meta after the recent patch?
its not like he hasnt played the game at all lol
hes played a lot of ranked + played in some scrims
Playing comp is nothing like playing pro level
When did he play in some scrims? Whose scrims?
When was that? If it’s very recent than what I said still stands
yeah true but it hasn't been that long really, especially if he still played ladder the whole time
if he was gone for like a year id worry about it but eh
Two stages is a long time
But hopefully he gets into it quickly
Connect four?
???
damn ksaa resume insane
i wonder who they will bring in for tm
cuz roster locks tomorrow i heard
where can i find the Active player count for OW2 for the Switch?
Wait he was on exo?
He got tired of playing owl on 200 ping lol
Steamcharts
for nintendo?
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solid team honestly, upgrade over old gg roster
Xzodyal is crazy
He was cooking ppl that have been in the pro scene for awhile and this is his 1st year
I hope they actually play ksaa
Like
A decent bit
Nah, it’s just a gunba move. They took ksaa so no one else does to make it easier on them
Gg
so when is ence signing a coach lol
i feel bad for vestola cus he’s now demoted to 2nd best dva of emea
Both Vestola and Ksaa played in owl
Some people think they’re contenders players cuz that’s what they were playing before owl and contenders ended
It's bc they were on mid teams unfortunately
bottom of owl or top of contenders and they both chose contenders
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I think Ksaa didn’t wanna play on a mid team with 200 ping.
I called it. I said they’ll pick up Crispy.
When owcs is still next week so you start watching cgl
All these pick ups for nrg to solo
I open cgl and there's 2 kills to dva bombs
Console will always be console
Wait ocie is casting woah
W ocie
Ik cgl does handcam verification
Plus that tracer was definitely controller
Turning like they were observing the scenery
Someone get maroon in the lobby 🗣️
Are these gms?
Gg
If these are gm console than idk what’s what anymore
Yea I think I’m just fraudulent
Gameplay so ass the stream died
Cannot defend ts
The allegations are true I fear
Vestolas dva is still better
ksaa is better than ves on brawlier stuff
ram mauga
They didnt choose, they got dropped
im sure vestola wouldve taken the 50k owl minium over charity work in exo
Both got fucked though
Ksaa played in a dogshit team on 200ping, no one was gonna survive from that rebuild
and vestola is an avalla victim
aka she dropped an entire decent owl team in order to pick up a roster that didnt win a single match
isn’t hadi right there though
clearly he’s being brought on for off tank since hadi has it covered
in scrims it’s def all ksaa so he’s gonna be a threat
What’s the best grand finals in OWL?
london winning in 2018
super excited
i had a feeling Zeta would be the one
Instead of Alphayi…?
The
Meta is leaning towards double flex
Probably a coincidence it lines up with this announcement https://x.com/OW_Esports_Asia/status/1836661539673379238?t=4ho_bl1C7ikYO-nM8QiIMA&s=19
Ya read that too
Since there's only two slots for Asia (it's gonna be Korea teams), the best of the best are underrepresented
Wondering if lcrazy raccoon gonna get players
Tbh thought they gun for pelican
Bit viper is also a option
Which I think moon likes a lot
CR couldn't need more players, but maybe Pelican was out of their budget for the rest of the season
Viper might be what they go with because CR is basically from the ashes of Shanghai
Just a extra flex would benefit them
Wonder if Poker Face are going to do a last ditch signing
They’ll probably get people from Fnatic
Moon might go for Viper
Ya
If lip wast on cr it be knife
Yeah
Then probably Viper if raccoon decide to add anyone because no other role is needed
I’m assuming since knife did very good under fleta fleta and moon are close friends
I only see viper being added but idk tho it looks like the
Meta will be tracer and prob venture
Yeah we’ll see
Checkmate for Poker face would be really good
Yep but ves is still slightly better on dva than ksaa head to head
ssg as a whole got way better on dva comps with this signing though
When is OWCS
shit
theres no way lol
When indeed
EMEA & NA Teams should be this weekend
Nvm it’s the the weekend after when OWCS Asia Stage 2 LAN begins #esports-news message
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man i wonder where checkmate is goig
teams making big moves
best tanks rn?
lip was talking about being upset over these double flex comps he had to play
should be good
dva ram comps were everywhere
heroes or players?
for owcs
man how didnt checkmate get a team
i hope get somehwo got picked up by an eu team cuz man
My goat pelican
Jerry from Boston ???
I hope he says it like owl
Anyone down to join my team for the OWCS Open Qualifiers I need 4 more
@ me here if your interested, I dont care what rank u are
both
Ram is played a lot rn
one of the reasons for that is that his armor is broken rn and actually reduces damage too much when he is in nemesis
Out of the tank players I can only name Junbin and SOMEONE since I haven't really watched the others play
Huuuuuuuuuh CR picked up Knife??
Lip is tired of playing flex dps
If it isn't tracer he's not tryna play it
Double flex meta rn
confused why they picked up knife instead of checkmate tbh
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Vision over chopper is kinda crazy tho unless chopper left on his own
maybe
Yeah
This is the second time timeless gave tsm their roster
Gg
I think everyone besides lyar played on timeless at one point
Still wondering where my goat lethal is going
Timeless posted this
lethal to Korea
Like a week ago
?
I thought they pick up viper
Nope it's knife
Viper is part of Victory Esports which i forgot
He 100% would leave to join cr
Most lilely
i mean Saudi teams are kinda basically the contenders / wait team
Ya I think knife was originally a flex player
That prob why moon pick him up
I’m
Happy for knife
yeah
Apparently tsm was looking at viper
would be a good one
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lol
Everyone answers Infekted
Everyone says pge
what does lf ringer mean?
What’s wait team?
TSM picked up Cuffa, doomed, Lukemino, Vision and Squid?
I didn’t see this. They picked up Lyar? Really? Also they saw vision’s performance during FACEIT grand finals and thought “yeah let’s get him”
i mean like a team you wait til you get a pick up
who wanna duo
Knife has way more potential
IMO
that too
Wonder if tree was trolling when he said tsm were potentially looking for viper
good question
Yeah buddy owl was so successful that it got canceled for failing. You’re so right let’s bring back owl fr.
arguably better than saudi arabia fueled owcs
Right…a no league is somehow better…I agree
lol ur so delusional owl was so fire city based teams is a great concept
owcs is so buns
So fire it got burnt down
yeah its owls fault that workers at blizzard got exposed
Owl was cool until they prob started losing money
The 32 Vancouver fans going to see their team play
OWL was fine til the franchising became unprofitable
if it actually made money worth staying they wouldnt have gotten cancelled
and offered like 2-5 Billion to leave
.
^^ covid and overwatch being bad ruined owl
If the game went in a good direction and covid didn’t hit, owl could’ve been crazy good
And still would be
Viewership was dropping
Tbh I like
Owcs more just cuz there 3 regions
Mostly cuz eu is mad interesting
And the whole sponsorship thing
Where blizzard was like called out for mistreating there employees
City base mad it hard for teams to
Profit off there
Name
What is the point of PUGs?
That and being Mostly online for the last 4 years of OWL
and adding China late
technically its 4 if you count Japan and pacific as two diff
Ya
Prob next year
Tbh the Bobby rep ruin it cuz almost every sponsor left
Leave
He was proper before proper
Spark was also good but they always had bad coaches tbh
Yeah
Yeah 2021 was the last decent years
probably have a China region
I would say this but idk
If Chinese ow is still big
I mean it was the second biggest outside of Korea and i wouldnt see why they wouldnt having an esports without the China would be odd
No I mean there will
Be but I think they just be thrown into the kr region like they be rep china but just playing in kr bracket
Like they did in owl
So just Mix Korea and China and have it be a Korea China Region, i think they made a statement of having their region or something
Where does Stalk3r place in global ranking of dps
Probably top 5
Lip Proper Heesang Stalker Pge
Pge is number 1 what
6th is Patrie right?
6th is me ofc
You aint patrie
Gotta keep my king humble
I'm better
tru e
Top
I was with you till the end
Pge belong at the front
Ur right pge over stalker
Yes
Pink Mauga skin when?
True the 2 spots has to be such a bad rule against kr
thats massive
super team merchant
all relevant results have come from playing alongside top talent and has rarely ever outshone them
i'll take a player getting good results on a mediocre team over a player getting great results on a superteam
real
PGE > Lip
lip gets excellent results on a super team that’s diff
stalk3r plays on superteams lip is the foundation of the superteam
didn't they sign knife to play double flex over lip
doesn't pge ride the bench for tr33 scissors on every map type but escort
cause hitscan is dogshit rn 😭
I'm not seriously putting pge over lip btw
obviously
It’s sad
Super team my ass until they locked in falcons were ass the only guys on that team doing something was stalker and proper
Plus even if he's on a super team bro is performing at a top 2 level in the hardest region no matter how good his team is there's just a clear gap
chiyo fielder proper hanbin is not a super team you’re so right man
put any mediocre Korean fdps in the same position as stalk3r results don’t change
stalker>proper
idk probably proper is a bum teammate
what level of delusion do you have to be stuck in to look at falcons roster and say that isn’t a super team
just bc they flopped doesn’t mean that roster isn’t a super team
they’re just a flopping super team
who didn’t live up to expectations bc
- flopper and chiyo likely regularly mentally boom the team
- stalk3r and Smurf are routinely outclassed
you know it’s bad when fielder is the only person on the starting roster that im not flaming bruh im a fielder anti
okay I’ll even it out fielder’s kiri wasn’t it bro is not him when healbotting your tank stops working
you’re supposed to be the kiri guy and you’re getting gapped by someone who isn’t even known for his kiri
that someone just so happens to be my glorious goat greatest flex support to touch the game shusus Christ but
fielder was never him I fear
Nah, that’s genuinely not true. A hitscan isn’t a foundation ever. Unless the team is real shit. Crazy racoon would still be top 1 or 2 with or without Lip.
They are but they weren't playing like one and that's just the truth
They were this top 2 power house but were losing maps to bottom teams in their own region and others until the end of last stage
Saying they’re a flop when they’re the second best team is weird isn’t it? But with a roster like that, anything other than first is a “flop”
They’re inconsistent.
And imma hold them by those standards
They’re sometimes the best team
Just not true
Put any mediocre hitscan on Crazy racoon and results don’t change.
Seriously
every team lip’s been on would have been tiers lower without him
You give hitscan too much credit
Atlanta would not have won msm with any other player
Yeah and falcons with proper happy looks way worse than stalker in
I'm with him on that one ngl lip was like a core piece in every team he touched
look at Houston 2023
I did
switch happy and lip and Houston wins that tourney 4-0
nah
easily
Even with lip outlaws lose that
You’re saying they won 4-0 cuz of lip?
doesn’t matter
That was on pelican
Yeah happy played the tracer pelican played Sombra echo
Pretty much the whole season
And that’s why happy is a bum apparently. Cuz pelican played Sombra
doesn’t matter switch either outlaw dps for lip
The logic, I can’t find it.
and outlaws wins that easily
What rank did Atlanta get?
I don't think it was a player problem for Houston at all that season genuinely
okay but if you switch either Houston dps with lip Houston wins both titles
bc fearless and shu are the greatest players to touch their roles
Houston did beat Atlanta and they didn’t have Lip. In fact, Atlanta had lip and they still lost.
Buddy…cmon you can’t be serious
because fearless and shu are the goats of their role
And lip is the greatest to touch his role
watch the vod it’s literally what happened
Allegedly
the difference between lip and pelican/happy
is on average much greater than the difference between shu viol2t and fielder chiyo
Lip is better than pelican and happy that's common sense but to say replacing one with lip and that team automatically wins everything is delusional I fear
“Common sense”
pelican and happy both were mid a tier players at best that season
lip was the best player that season
Those “mid a tiers” got second place when Atlanta got what? 6th-8th?
Lip being on a team doesn't change that teams system, how they play fights or their coaching experience
looking purely at results ignoring all the context
Pelican doesn’t know how to play Sombra
atlanta crashed out because they refused to scrim other comps besides Winston sombra tracer
Yeah he’s such a huge difference maker, he was a able to push his team and win 8th place.
and bc chiyo has the biggest ego in owl
Which lip was amazing on?
So lip lost cuz Chiyo ego too big?
what are you even trying to say
Winston tracer sombra wasn’t being played in playoffs
If he was so good, he’d get better than 8th when he has Chiyo, Fielder for backline
non lip players insisted on only scrimming Winston tracer comps in first half
bc they were winning on that comp
so you should know
Those are just bad excuses
This whole argument is pointless
that 2023 playoffs was not a lip issue
I see
So when they win. It’s all lip, if they lose, it wasn’t his fault.
And he's included bc he's on the team
his role in Atlanta’s downfall was incredibly minor by comparison
exactly
if they win it’s bc they’re lucky that sombra comp didn’t get nerfed to the ground if they lose it’s bc chiyo had a meltdown directed at his tank 5 times a week
*weighted by the fact that he’s on a superteam
Who cares about that he's still better than majority of their dps in the scene rn
super team on not theres a visible gap
I just think if you swapped stalk3r with numerous players on worse teams
those worse teams would be worse off
knife alphayi both prime examples
Put him on poker face and they're better
Put him on hjd and they're better
You put any of those players on falcons they're maybe around the same or worse
lip heesang Kevin alphayi knife flopper m*r1t all clear that stalk3r fraud
Merit is inconsistent in the worst region
Merit is ass outside of hard hitscan
I love kevster but bro is like the most inconsistent thing ever off tracer
kevster hit a good blizzard challenge: impossible
Bro goes “oh we’re losing, I’ll go tracer”
Always
And sugarfree does the same thing with Pharah
mer1t and kevster also get like 10% of the resources stalk3r gets
Not true at all
Masaa and crimzo haven't played in like two stages what
And Vega is ass
I'll give you that
last time I watched eu Mickey Mouse region
All my homies hate vega
Bro rating players he hasn't watched
masaa looked like he was fresh out of a platinum ranked game
He was fresh out of his job
I actually haven’t watched an owcs match in months 
It makes sense
both
Both
still sad that my takes despite being out of the scene are better than the takes of people regularly keeping up with it sadly
Yeah definitely delusional
Anyway I gotta eat brb
if you can’t see that swapping lip with either of Houston’s dps makes Houston win both titles that’s the real delusion bruh
though that is partially luck based on flex dps being useless that year
Yeah no
This isn't a solo frag game like val or something just adding more mechanically talented player doesn't make the team make better decisions when it mattered
Correct.
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He was fresh from bingo night bruh
real as fuck
welcome back JohnnyG
crazy how wasp didn't get dsq still
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Where is Stryder?
@hybrid hollow Stryder isn’t on citrus anymore 😭
The team is shit now
Youre asking the wrong person
Noooooooo
I miss him
citrus nation looks strong now
lethal is still perma benched he belongs on citrus
He's probably making more money on ntmrs bench compared to starting for citrus
I wonder how much they actually make
I’m assuming orgs like Toronto and nrg pay a decent amount
Nrg salary was leaked recently I think
Kellan agreed to 1.7k a month when they signed him
what
yea its rly bad
how does he even survive on that
there's barely any money in ow rn what do you expect lmao
ence gets like a 25 euro subway gift card a month
only orgs that pay a decent salary I think are falcons toronto and maybe CR
and ssg to a degree
1.7k a month is still pretty good considering how small ow is if you're realistic about it, owl was just massively inflated, this is more in line with how it is in smaller esports
Nah ence average salary is close to that nrg number
same with ssg
what do y’all think about roblox
How is that survivable?
Like what do they do if their pc breaks
how are they gonna afford to get a new one
1.7k is nothing
It is just dont live in the center of a major city
you just wont save shit for the future
sounds like a horrible career
what do they do when overwatch dies
atleast someone like pge has his streaming career
are they just gonna have to work at mcdonalds ? 😭
It is money wise but being able to play videogames for a living is also a privilege
I guess but what happens if overwatch dies
do they just have nothing for the future
no earnings
The same thing as when any other person gets fired
either back to school or low threshold jobs
damn thats crazy
Also in NA many players are on scholarships
why is overwatch e sports so dead
so they get a free ride while having overwatch as a sidehustle
surely a game this big could be like valorant level
Damn that sounds like a good deal
Too much shit going on
Also valorant is alot bigger than overwatch in 2024
Anyone can understand whats going on in a valorant match
but in overwatch you need to understand the game to know half the shit thats happening
Why dont they just advertise it to overwatch players then
overwatch is still a really popular game
The overwatch format just isnt as good of a fit for esports
theres a reason why cs and valorant are the most viewed fps esports
There is alot of complexity that goes into overwatch esports but that isnt really appreciated by the casual viewer
Not really
owl viewership was always bad relatively to the amount of money they were spending
why were people spending then tf
Because bobby kotick somehow convinced massive corporations to invest
there was a 20million entry fee to the league but the viewerships apex was at like 400k
crazy 😭
I'm not saying it's survivable I'm saying it's pretty standard for small eSports to not be
but idk don't these mfs live in like the middle of nowhere in iowa or some shit
it's probably "survivable"
but I was talking more about how it's not surprising how much he gets paid
Also many of them live with their parents still
or school dorms
That’s so real
Lip was the gap
And chiyo brig gapped viol2t
What happened to na man
Timeless come home why do we have a team with durpee on it and another team named “Shout tuah” like what
this region is cooked bro
what’s crazy is that group c will most likely be the second most interesting group
group d has the chance to be entertaining
Wait where is timeless
Wallahi
Lethal carried them in faceit and they realized they aren’t built for this
When durpee is competing in the same tournament as Toronto and NRG yk it's bad
You got someone, Kellan, attack, Infekted and clear even
Then you got
durpee
a pge side character
so why did Crazy Raccoon sign Knife?
Flex dps
Lip doesn’t wanna play pure flex all the time probably
makes sense. looks like the meta is shifting towards double FDPS,
He lost an employee tournament against apple at his job
he couldn’t carry his co workers
party ended 300 days ago bruh let it go
almost a year
gang I've been on a break since ow1 calm down
thought everyone heard this but yeah
on december 9th they won’t even sell owl tokens anymore
sometime 2025 all team shop skins will be unavailable
are there any other noteworthy overwatch e-sport things?
Tm try not to pick up a washed korean
racist getting picked up by tm nooticing
(he’s probably not racist but it’s just an ongoing joke)
Nah, you’re trolling.
Yeah what’s the joke btw. I heard people accuse him of being racist but what happened exactly?
If this is true than Dallas backline reuniting in TM
Wait what happen to shout
Hey, we get durpee vs infekted that’ll be the most interesting thing all of groups
except citrus vs tsm*
I’m curious to see how tsm does
probably forced name change because of the hawk tuah! meme
ye
Owcs so cooked rn durpee can call himself a t1 player
No NMTR.Rotation 
They were so close and about to break into groups
Plus that was the closest to having a non Toronto NA finals
Most hated team now
what mcd even do
racist towards cn players when he was on the spark
i thought he just said fuck you to a chinese player
more than that no?
Since when did knife join cr
I see him mostly on hitscan
He was only on hs bc he was next to viper and checkmate
Maybe but I have not seen much knife flex dps besides tracer when he was in Paris eternal
he called them basicall unintelligent
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racism towards chinese players times 2
youbi mcd double whammy
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Werent we supposed to get a new league bundle rotation today
The blog said zenyatta and echo were part of if
hope you guys enjoy this montage sorry for the wait.
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Getting MCD makes me think Bliss had a say
Man that jersey is still so good. Wish I got one
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every time this person posts, I delay esports announcements by another day
fluffed up
so that spreadsheet that i’ve been using to buy ow1 skins is useless now
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Who here will be watching the owcs world finals in person?
always has been
Don't let em know ball
Gotta question
Do you guys put sojourn in the projectile role or hitscan role
Btw does anyone know the og contenders coming back?
projectile hero but falls in the hitscan category
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Why did lip just drop his playlist 🙏🏾😭
My king
wait i bought hangzhou winston and cass ow1
i mean i would never do that it was removed
Only problem is one blizzard doesnt care and two Riot is a music company with gaming on the side
Wow is this channel unmoderated
Imagine buying ow1 owl skins, mine were banked up until the ow2 OWL shop was official
You didn’t like Dillon Francis in 2021?
Zedd in 2019?
DJ Khaled during 2018?
All the performances were very lowkey but Khaled which broke the internet for the day. All the good performers don’t even get much promotion or airtime from blizzard
DJ Khaled was peak music
Do we count Le Sserafim 2023???

what does this mean i cannot decipher


