Watching the bottom of na
#esports-discussion
marble shuttle
can you not get league tokens anymore except from buying them?
sullen berry
why else would they bring back the old skins?
you can buy the bundle skins separately in hero gallery if you filter by OWL Tokens
hazy marsh
can you not get league tokens anymore except from buying them?
you havent been able to for the past like 9 months
marble shuttle
you havent been able to for the past like 9 months
they should revert that
glass sleet
Should’ve made owcs give token
You want owcs give owl tokens?
hybrid hollow
You want owcs give owl tokens?
Yes so we don't have to buy them
paying for things suck
hybrid hollow
So apparently MN3 is looking for a team in overwatch
Bring him to na
glass sleet
Yes so we don't have to buy them
But that’s two different things.
glass sleet
Bring him to na
He was a really good hitscan. He unfortunately sucks on Sombra and was on Sombra jail all of 23
static turret
Why did I click on faceshit and they’re on mercy
static turret
Mercy Juno in my overwatch????
Let them cook
glass sleet
Is exo really playing mercy?
hybrid hollow
Speed ring + boosters = anj dead every time
static turret
No touch
Mercy Juno phara
Why am I watching a console ladder match
Also when are we getting more drops
Bastion mei orisa
So now we’re just trolling
glass sleet
I swear exo was a contender for a top 3 eu team
That was a different roster completely
static turret
Wait why is this ladder comp working
glass sleet
They were at one point in stage 1
Again…a completely different roster lol
hybrid hollow
Nah this is actually just ladder what am I seeing
hybrid hollow
Married to the pharah grind
glass sleet
vp Is the true finish dps line
static turret
“My region isn’t that good”
hybrid hollow
Seeker would've killed 5 with bastion
static turret
That was an amazing kite tbh
hybrid hollow
Damn they weren't tracking the juno ult
hybrid hollow
That was an amazing kite tbh
That too
static turret
And then they dunked on them with the counter juno ult
Rajarro should’ve died
Nvm
He just did
hybrid hollow
bro missed the sleep when the orisa was typing 💀
glass sleet
Wtf
static turret
Eu gameplay
hybrid hollow
If khenail lands tht sleep they probably win
hybrid hollow
He harnessed that inner viol2t
static turret
We need owcs match chat
Type shit
They need to get off orisa
They aren’t stopping the god robot
hybrid hollow
EU Winston play gg
static turret
Bro
Wtf did I just watch
That sloppy ass Winston
Bro is not guxue
Bro
Why are we not diving ?
When we’re in a dive comp
hybrid hollow
Get this region off Winston
They won a fight when they copied dva
Didn't even win
If they had a real dva they could've won
static turret
Jesus
What did I just watch
Get bro off Winston
Got beat and just decided to turbo feed
hybrid hollow
Can't wait for that Juno ult nerf on Tuesday
static turret
Watching low tier na and eu dive
Is just
Sad
I don’t think I’ve seen a. Eich match in pro play
In awhile
Speed ring dva just creates insane space
Forced literally 5 people to fall back or lose 300hp
hybrid hollow
Why are we still on monkey
The one time they did good was on dva why aren't we staying dva
Fire the coaching staff
glass sleet
Can't wait for that Juno ult nerf on Tuesday
Juno ain’t getting no changes
Wtf is wrong with matchmaking
static turret
Wait ence vs ssg
Are we gonna get some good ow
Hadi been practicing his dva
Why do they think ence is gonna lose
3-1
Ence clears
hybrid hollow
Yeah ence is too good in the meta ngl
hybrid hollow
Why is Kellex on streamer mode
glass sleet
I’m doing no food challenge today
hybrid hollow
Love this new 4th3n4 guy
glass sleet
Why is Kellex on streamer mode
Lol
glass sleet
Love this new 4th3n4 guy
Fr, this new guy is exactly what ence needed.
fast shore
when is next ows stream on twitch?
glass sleet
HADI ISNT FORCING DVA
Duh. This is THE ram control map
hybrid hollow
when is next ows stream on twitch?
Tomorrow I believe
glass sleet
No matter what the meta is, ram is always played on this map.
hybrid hollow
Whenever korea starts again
fast shore
Tomorrow I believe
ohh, do u know at what time?
hybrid hollow
ohh, do u know at what time?
I do not unfortunately
fast shore
ahh okay, ty
glass sleet
Omg SSG are washed
hybrid hollow
Is Hadi ok??
glass sleet
Landon goes to NTMR. Thoughts?
glass sleet
Um
hybrid hollow
Genuinely Landon's brig is horrible idc how bad astro is hes better than Landon
glass sleet
ggs ssg
hybrid hollow
like why not put ur flex support on the hitscan support it just makes more sense to me
glass sleet
Genuinely Landon's brig is horrible idc how bad astro is hes better than Landon
Oh yeah I noticed the flex supports are playing brig and the main supports are playing the flex support hero Juno
hybrid hollow
It depends on the team
hybrid hollow
Even falcons has Fielder on Brig and Chiyo on Juno
Refuse to play majed by any means
glass sleet
But chorong sucks on Juno so shu plays her now
hybrid hollow
But chorong sucks on Juno so shu plays her now
Main support is bad on hitscan support shocker
glass sleet
Refuse to play majed by any means
Chiyo would die than let majed fully replace him
I’m starving bro it’s not even funny
hybrid hollow
I guess it's because brig is pretty simple when played in these brawlier comps
stuck marten
wtf are these comps
glass sleet
wtf are these comps
It’s a comp. Made of strong heroes who work well together making them strong currently in game lifespan
These games are like ranked. People suck at taking point back
HADI
glass sleet
Guys, I think Kevster is kinda good at this game.
hybrid hollow
Omg
glass sleet
I’d be the biggest SSG fan if they get Ksaa
stuck marten
Visual clutter woohoo
hybrid hollow
Now that's the overwatch I like to see
10 ults covering ur screen 🔥🔥🔥🔥
ssg was kiting everything
And sparkr was untouchable on the height
stuck marten
Junoats ah that’s what it’s called
hybrid hollow
Kellex took off streamer mode and still couldn't lock in
wise orbit
it seems like juno brig is more popular than juno ana rn
hybrid hollow
Juno ana gets ran over
hybrid hollow
On longer maps or might be better but everyone has been running the rush maps
hybrid hollow
i think juno might be a flex support
I agree but all the main supports are on Juno and the flex supports are on brig
wise orbit
ive not seen that much but ence have their fs on juno
hybrid hollow
They have a double flex lineup tho kinda
wise orbit
maybe teams expected juno to be played like a main support?
hybrid hollow
Kellex is a main support but he also plays a decent amount of flex support
Falcons run chiyo Juno fielder brig, raccoons had shu on brig but chorong was shit on Juno, SSG put Landon on brig as you can see
wise orbit
yea i know koreans started playing juno ana
so it would make sense for them to put the ms on juno
hybrid hollow
And galaa plays Juno as well bc he usually picks up the main support heros for vp
anyways ENCE looking kinda rough rn
hybrid hollow
It's like my soul wants to call juno a flex support but since the terms are used to identify hero pools if the main supports are on Juno then she's a ms
hybrid hollow
It's like my soul wants to call juno a flex support but since the terms are used...
I think it's bc one the Juno ana thing as you said and also bc brig is easier to play in this comp compared to the usual ana brig
Vestola should probably be forcing dva more
wise orbit
its interesting how flex and main support have nothing to do with the actual kit of the hero
or well
i guess it has something to do with it but there are no similarities that would point them to either one
i watched a yt video about it from ocie
worn falcon
esports
hybrid hollow
its interesting how flex and main support have nothing to do with the actual kit...
A lot of ppl think they are bc the main staples of ms are brig and Lucio who are the utility supports bc it really means nothing
worn falcon
Ocie and Spilo have such differences on how they view Juno tho
but both agree Juno isnt subbing Lucio
hybrid hollow
You can still tell when heros are gonna be main or flex supports tho for the most part
hybrid hollow
Ocie and Spilo have such differences on how they view Juno tho
And it's great
Healthy discourse about a hero
Wish the rest of the community could do that
worn falcon
I do lean more on Spilo's view than Ocie, but like i get it too
hybrid hollow
I'm kinda in between both rn especially bc I haven't watched too much since she started getting real play time
worn falcon
You can still tell when heros are gonna be main or flex supports tho for the mos...
the funny thing in OW2 that line is practically blurry nowadays, still true to heroes with very designed kind of gameplay
But like Illari, LW and Juno
hybrid hollow
But like Illari, LW and Juno
I think lw was clearly a ms from release but illari and Juno are definitely prime examples of the names meaning nothing
Illari is a flex support but a lot of her play time is main support players unless you have a double flex backline
And a lot of "main supports" are also picking up the flex heros a lot now
Chorong, Vega, Kellex and Galaa tend go back and forth a lot as well
worn falcon
yeeeh, which is why the terms are becoming outdated
hazy marsh
I mean let's be fair they've been sorta outdated for ages but changing them to something more fitting is hard
hybrid hollow
It's impossible to change them bc the ppl who use the terms have no reason to
worn falcon
funny seeing kevster on mei
wise orbit
rly nice shot from kai
hybrid hollow
Kai slowly beating the overrated allegations
He's turning me into a fan bit by bit
hybrid hollow
Hitscan players been benched so much this meta they gotta show out when they find play time
wise orbit
it was his best map against vp as well
worn falcon
Pharah smh
hybrid hollow
So topdragon is the greatest player ever I guess
wise orbit
topdragon cant do more
hybrid hollow
I think that was a miscommunication at the end it seemed like topdragon wanted to force point as his team walked but they couldn't/didn't
If he traded galaa with the dupe they could've won probably
torn portal
So topdragon is the greatest player ever I guess
if they didn’t have him, the team would 1000% be way lower
like they have theomatic that guy was hard feeding in his stage and they still won way more than they should’ve
hybrid hollow
Na starts now time for me to go one with my day
static turret
Are any of the good na teams playing
If I see fluffy dreamland or tsm hit my screen i will not be watching
stuck marten
If I see fluffy dreamland or tsm hit my screen i will not be watching
Well umm about that
static turret
Turning my screen off
hybrid hollow
Calling all heros is also happening
stuck marten
Lmao the boops
glass sleet
Are any of the good na teams playing
Timeless
static turret
Is that the one that has sawhill as their tank
glass sleet
Is that the one that has sawhill as their tank
Cuffa
Actually TSM v Timeless will play after this game
Right?
glass sleet
This should not be as close as it is
glass sleet
Won’t catch me watching a tsm match
That’s gonna be the best game
The strongest NA teams in FACEIT
glass sleet
Yea but it’s tsm
What do you have against TSM?
The cage was so big, I got hit with an ad
static turret
They’re a horrible team to watch
Bottom of na is just a snooze fest in general
Not tryna ward mauga and orisa mirrors
glass sleet
Not tryna ward mauga and orisa mirrors
Haven’t seen a single orisa or mauga
Ok, they played mauga one round in control
glass sleet
They’re a horrible team to watch
TSM won 3-1
deft nacelle
Do we think timeless gonna win FACEIT NA?
Tsm. Timeless sucks
spice pelican
I need healing!
sullen berry
OWCS 2024 ASIA STAGE 2 - JAPAN MATCH POINT 
OWCS Japan is now live in Tokyo for the final map! With VARREL Eliminated yesterday, tonight we crown a new Champion for seeding purposes. Both teams already qualified for 
OWCS Asia Stage 2 Main Event in Busan.
Nyam Gaming vs Lazuli 
Watch live on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ow_esports
Watch live on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ow_esports/live
Players, Format and Standings on Liquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Overwatch_Champions_Series/2024/Asia/Stage_2/Japan
Nyam Gaming takes Runasapi, will they keep it going for another 3 maps?
https://www.twitch.tv/ow_esports_jp JP Japanese dub
sullen berry
I need screenshots of these, since I'm still out atm while Korea Grand finals is starting very soon
stray quarry
in 40 minutes 😭
glass sleet
Tsm. Timeless sucks
Timeless almost beat NTMR that almost beat TOR
static turret
Didn’t Toronto recently 3-0 ntmr
They had a 3-2 match I forgot
Although I don’t think they’ll ever get a chance like that again
Same with nrg when they beat them
What is flora doing?
west mango
falcons shat on them wt
west mango
ZETA IS THROWING
static turret
Violet and flora died 1st so many times
west mango
Violet and flora died 1st so many times
that sombra pick is horrible
west mango
time for an ult fight lol
static turret
Why is he holding it for so long
He needed to use it before they used annihlation
And he did that last map
west mango
the way flora disappeared right after the emp was so funny
static turret
Violet getting picked immediately like twice
Proper showing flora who’s big boss
Alphayi getting a pick and watching as his team throws it away
Flora is trolling
What are the coaches doing ?
Wait
It worked
lusty wasp
Bro when was sombra meta
This season
sterile prism
Why are both teams running mei is she meta
glass sleet
Hmmmm
glass sleet
Why are both teams running mei is she meta
She’s meta on that map with Juno
glass sleet
Bro when was sombra meta
Owl 23
Last year of owl
She was hard meta
Falcons looking like CR
glass sleet
juno seemed like that breath of fresh air that falcons needed
Yeah kinda does huh
They look so strong on ram Juno comp
mental vine
THANK YOU JUNO AND RAMMATRA FOR LETTING 5V5 GOATS HAPPEN... does this mean we gonna keep 5v5 or go back to 6v6? LMFAOOOOO
mental vine
Falcons looking like CR
they are looking like that because its 5v5 GOATS META LMFAO
weary scarab
falcons on top again
cerulean crescent
falcons currently best team in owcs
mental vine
just watch when CR somehow won stage 2 asia again LMFAO
glass sleet
I mwan now since when
What?
humble token
Isnt cr supposed to 4-0 everyone in sombra meta
gritty glacier
not when shu has to learn a new hero
mental vine
They are announcing the new studio venue for ASIA
glass sleet
Isnt cr supposed to 4-0 everyone in sombra meta
I mean maybe?
humble token
not when shu has to learn a new hero
U pfp is a little curse
sullen berry
MRW Falcons 4-0 https://youtu.be/eF3BDoX8Hds?si=VwbBNSHuAh4FJScL
sullen berry
Me when Japan's 4-1 Grand Finals earlier between NOT VARRWL and NOT FKN VARREL was more competitve than this https://youtu.be/KEdURphp9QA?si=HtnYx3dcojt24rm7
paper totem
Ngl I wanted falcons vs cr again. It’s a fun rivalry. I don’t think poker face is gonna hold up
humble token
I hope new Japan teams will win
paper totem
Wait did cr already face pf
sullen berry
Yes
3rd place decided was last week when CR Lost
They played it on the same day vs poker face who got sent to the shadow realm with VARREL and 4th place in Pacific
Because WhoRU's team quit
Anyways now that im home having missed absolutely nothing
Time for China
paper totem
They played it on the same day vs poker face who got sent to the shadow realm wi...
Pf can’t hold up
Falcons best team and honestly I think I would put cr next and then zeta. Feel like they struggled bit with this meta
Cr struggled I mean
mental vine
lool Can Falcons finally win the Asia trophy? LMFAO XD if this meta stays? and ASSUMING the next patch doesnt affect this
OR is gonna be a CR sleeper asia win and history repeats itself
paper totem
Holy mega cope lol
sullen berry
Pf can’t hold up
Doesnt matter then their opponents were boomed and WhoRU didnt even have a team to field, poker face played two games and have taken the wild card slot
@mental vine neither its NRG Shock all the way once PGE has his way /s
mental vine
<@286232931469492224> neither its NRG Shock all the way once PGE has his way /s
LOOOL in ur WILDEST dreams LOL
paper totem
Some fans can’t handle their fav team getting beat I guess
paper totem
<@286232931469492224> neither its NRG Shock all the way once PGE has his way /s
My king
I love pge
mental vine
I love pge
pge has NO chance LOL against asia
paper totem
Dude throws ranked and goes off in OWCS
paper totem
pge has NO chance LOL against asia
I was talking about falcons earlier not pge
Pge is very entertaining
NA as a region jusf is not as competitive
I rarely watch NA OWCS
NA
mental vine
he may be.. but lets be honest he is never going anywhere lol
mental vine
I watch anything Korea
anything BUT korea?*
paper totem
Unless it’s between Korea teams
mental vine
Unless it’s between Korea teams
ah
sullen berry
But everyone knows Attack is the superior tank
paper totem
anything BUT korea?*
Ik space station and ENCE are decent
But can either hold up vs falcons or cr
mental vine
But everyone knows Attack is the superior tank
Hanbin in this meta: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
paper totem
Can any non Korean team beat falcons cr or zeta?
mental vine
Ik space station and ENCE are decent
Ence is doing way better than SSG this stage and prob next stage
paper totem
Ence is doing way better than SSG this stage and prob next stage
I’m not very up to date with EU
ENCE has someone right
mental vine
I’m not very up to date with EU
in summary: ENCE AND SSG switched places
mental vine
ENCE has someone right
no....... he is in toronto NA
paper totem
Pretty attached to the players
paper totem
no....... he is in toronto NA
lol you see how much attention I pay them
Sad but I just love top competition
mental vine
Only teams I enjoy watching r cr and falcons
honestly same they are the only teams i ONLY watch cuz its korea
paper totem
honestly same they are the only teams i ONLY watch cuz its korea
I’m trying to like zeta but I’m not attached to the players
mental vine
like lets be honest, CR/TF would easily destroy Team China if their teams are in the world cup last year
paper totem
Other than violet
mental vine
like lets be honest, CR/TF would easily destroy Team China if their teams are in...
AND would have won last year's world cup
paper totem
like lets be honest, CR/TF would easily destroy Team China if their teams are in...
No other country could beat either
I don’t think any could beat zeta
Zeta is good
mental vine
No other country could beat either
ya that team as well
mental vine
IF TF/CR/ZETA was in last year's world cup..... AUTOMATIC CHAMPIONS
paper totem
Pk?
mental vine
Who is next best
poker face
prob
they beat Varrel arguably the best japanese team heck THEY ARE TEAM JAPAN
paper totem
IF TF/CR/ZETA was in last year's world cup..... AUTOMATIC CHAMPIONS
In owl all best players were Korean
paper totem
But they never stream on twitch
mental vine
but i heard llengsa was out
mental vine
I watched Danteh and space a ton
they no longer play
paper totem
Even now not many OWCS stream
Or stream that’s easy for NA to watch
Seeker is like only consistent twitch OWCS streamer
Pge too
mental vine
ya pge would never be the likes of SUPER LMFAO
for NA
super is literally THE ONLY enjoyable NA player i have watched
paper totem
ya pge would never be the likes of SUPER LMFAO
He would struggle now but he was very fun to watch
mental vine
He would struggle now but he was very fun to watch
well yea in his prime he was FUN pge would never equal him if he is at his prime
paper totem
super is literally THE ONLY enjoyable NA player i have watched
Danteh and space great guys
paper totem
well yea in his prime he was FUN pge would never equal him if he is at his prime
I mean
Diff roles
mental vine
Danteh and space great guys
yes i like them but Super is more impactful
paper totem
Not easy to compare
mental vine
Diff roles
diff roles but similar popularity
but he wont be EASILY be recognized as super
Super has the charisma, personality like NO OTHER
sinattra who?
mental vine
Super has the charisma, personality like NO OTHER
honestly 2019-2020 sf shock is the ONLY BEST NA team
2023 mayhem meh
i think 2020 shock is the BEST clean NA team
cerulean crescent
To be fair, those are two completely different areas, you cannot compare them anywhere close. Overwatch Esport was on its peak 2018 and 2019. Nobody will ever be famous in owcs as any of the player during this time.
I would even argue that a player like Jjonak is still more recognized than any of the current owcs players
hybrid hollow
Nah
The goat pge
Half of the community doesn't know any players that played in 2018-19 that aren't super bc the esport is already niche within its own community
hybrid hollow
i think 2020 shock is the BEST clean NA team
Team was barely na at that point 😭
hazy marsh
yeah
hybrid hollow
Besides super (who didn't play over Smurf until playoffs) and moth it was mostly the koreans running that team
hazy marsh
viol2t, smurf, choi, etc. and you call it "clean NA team"
rugged quest
viol2t, smurf, choi, etc. and you call it "clean NA team"
- striker ans
hazy marsh
yeah
balmy hound
Damn falcons champs
balmy hound
The 2 matches I saw proper was dunking on flora
Yeah
I just watched
Proper was shitting on Flora the whole match
Flora couldn’t do anything unless it was Circuit Royale where their game plan was to keep bullying Hanbin and EMPing when orbital is used
static turret
Vp vs ssg coming up
torn portal
Damn falcons champs
It’s really their meta
I guess when you put two world class flex dps in a meta where they can play their hero pool
and have hanbin on dva
it’s a recipe for success
balmy hound
It’s really their meta
Yeah
balmy hound
I guess when you put two world class flex dps in a meta where they can play thei...
We need a double hitscan meta
torn portal
when was the last time that even happened lole
balmy hound
Which I don’t think has ever happened before when excluding tracer
balmy hound
when was the last time that even happened lole
I guess it’s hard for double Hitscan to be meta since a lot of them are vulnerable to dive
So they’d have to be really overturned 2 HS to be meta
torn portal
double sniper i guess on circuit or smth
balmy hound
Wouldn’t Hanzo fill the void next to widow (until he lost his one shot)
torn portal
is anyone else watching this ssg vp game
this fuckass meta and the five ult fights
junoats
torn portal
i’m too lazy to look it up but i’m 99% sure ssg took stage two
glass sleet
SSG literally got punched in the face for picking that map
glass sleet
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby tier stomp
I’m sad TM didn’t play this stage but I’m cheering for VP and glad they’re doing well
You guys remember Raajaro coming out of nowhere as a replacement tank for Ataraxia?
weak frost
average unter stream during the first fight
gritty glacier
Can any non Korean team beat falcons cr or zeta?
only Toronto has so far with zeta
glass sleet
89how is it 1-1 when they’ve only played control?
glass sleet
only Toronto has so far with zeta
Zeta lost cuz they had the worst bans picks which screwed with them heavily
Also VP and ence beat Fnatic
4:05 on attack damn
gritty glacier
Also VP and ence beat Fnatic
yea but the guy said cr falcons or zeta not fraudnatic
hybrid hollow
I keep forgetting about faceit
glass sleet
I keep forgetting about faceit
It’s ence v SSG grand finals rn
Can someone explain how ence is being punished for not dropping to loser’s bracket?
hybrid hollow
Damn 2-1
hybrid hollow
It’s ence v SSG grand finals rn
Best of 7 right??
glass sleet
Best of 7 right??
Yes
hybrid hollow
Boutta watch this W series just to watch na after 💤💤💤💤
glass sleet
Damn 2-1
Idk how it’s 2-1. Ence won first map and SSG won second map but it’s 2-1
But something about winners brackets bs
hybrid hollow
Pre rigged is crazy
glass sleet
Pre rigged is crazy
HUH
dude I don’t get it
Why is ence being punished for not losing during the series?
glass sleet
Why is crazy racoon third now?
They lost to falcons 3-1 in semi finals
Nvm I thought ence won first map and that’s why I was super confused but it all makes sense now
hybrid hollow
Wait did ence take a map?
avrl said they didn't but they have a point
What is this bs system 😭
weary talon
They lost to falcons 3-1 in semi finals
Yes but shouldn’t they get a losers semi against zetab
?
glass sleet
Yes but shouldn’t they get a losers semi against zetab
Oh no, it was a single elimination
glass sleet
Wait did ence take a map?
I’m an idiot. SO, ence has 1 point cuz they never dropped to lower bracket.
glass sleet
Kinda feels robbed though but its aight
They should’ve played better I guess. They genuinely got rolled vs Falcons which is weird lol
glass sleet
But don’t worry. They’ll still be in the Asian lan for sure.
glass sleet
But why is kr the only region with single elimination
Wasn’t it like that for wild card?
weary talon
Not that i remember
glass sleet
Yeah
glass sleet
Wait did the series end??
Yeah ence didn’t win a game
hybrid hollow
kevster couldn't beat chadi
glass sleet
No way the last map was tht fast
Did you see runasapi VP v SSG?
hybrid hollow
HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.
hybrid hollow
Did you see runasapi VP v SSG?
I pretty much missed every map
glass sleet
I pretty much missed every map
Even if you paid attention, you’d still might miss it cuz the game was 3:40 long
hybrid hollow
I didn't open the stream until SSG won map 3 against ence then I went to get food and the series ended
balmy hound
So when Dva gets inevitably nerfed
glass sleet
Runasapi was a roll
balmy hound
Is pro league just gonna be nothing but this Rammatra shit
Ram Mei, Juno, Brig, Ashe
balmy hound
Is there really no other DPS option better than Ashe
balmy hound
I’d take it over Dva every time
Eh
hybrid hollow
Ow metas are always caused by domino effects
glass sleet
we don't know the patch
The blog said that Juno won’t be touched so it’ll still be Juno
glass sleet
Dva is more fun to watch than Ram
Definitely not. I can’t stop rolling my eyes watching Dva
balmy hound
Or Ball meta
balmy hound
Definitely not. I can’t stop rolling my eyes watching Dva
I’m ok with it, since I Believe? Season 11-12 is the first time Dva has been meta in a 5v5 format?
glass sleet
I’m ok with it, since I Believe? Season 11-12 is the first time Dva has been met...
When she’s meta, you know she’s a problem in comp
balmy hound
Yeah
glass sleet
But ram isn’t broken, it’s just Juno enabling him
balmy hound
Yeah, but this shit boring ngl
Like it’s just the same mirror matches for most of these maps
I need something to change up
The last time I enjoyed watching constant mirror matches was Joats
glass sleet
Like it’s just the same mirror matches for most of these maps
And Dva meta wasn’t?
I like ram so I’m probably biased when I say I like ram metas
But I also like winton metas, doom metas (but game probably sucks if he’s meta) and sigma metas
Ngl I even enjoyed the meta during Dallas
Even tho Dva hasn’t been meta in ow, i really didn’t like her meta. Maybe it had something to do with the fact she was way over tuned and comp games were ruined by her. Also I just wanna say nanoing Dva meant at least 3-2 kills on Dva when nanoing ram mean he gets to survive a bit longer.
balmy hound
And Dva meta wasn’t?
Before Juno there was variety
And even with Juno, it was Ana or brig with her
hybrid hollow
Like it’s just the same mirror matches for most of these maps
That's just pro overwatch in general
balmy hound
The last time I remember mirror matches was when Mauga,Cassidy, and Pharah were hard meta
hybrid hollow
And if they aren't it's the same idea but someone is more comfortable on a different hero
hybrid hollow
The last time I remember mirror matches was when Mauga,Cassidy, and Pharah were ...
Tbh this meta has been more unique if anything
Some teams like dva some like ram and few teams play queen
balmy hound
I just watched Korea finals
hybrid hollow
We would have more variety of these were international tourneys so until then we're gonna see mirrors for each region
hybrid hollow
I mean that's the playoffs ofc it's gonna be a mirror
balmy hound
I don’t even know why Brig is played instead of Ana, Brig can’t fight off Ram
hybrid hollow
Usually the best two teams run the same things
balmy hound
I mean that's the playoffs ofc it's gonna be a mirror
Well
hybrid hollow
I don’t even know why Brig is played instead of Ana, Brig can’t fight off Ram
Bc ana gets ran over my ram
hybrid hollow
that's different Floridas entire thing was being unpredictable and counter swapping
balmy hound
Bc ana gets ran over my ram
And Brig doesn’t?
hybrid hollow
And Brig doesn’t?
Whipshot bash and armor
balmy hound
They were like the best team in the regular season?
hybrid hollow
Plus Juno speed to disengage or a juno pocket to hold
hybrid hollow
They were like the best team in the regular season?
yeah and the moment playoffs came they sucked ass
balmy hound
Sleep nade? But I guess man
hybrid hollow
they were Sombra tracer one tricks
balmy hound
They should have committed on the one trick
hybrid hollow
Sleep nade? But I guess man
Sleep only last 3s on a tank and if nade is a threat they run Juno Kiri
balmy hound
They switched up once playoffs came
glass sleet
Before Juno there was variety
It was Lucio Ana or Lucio brig till Juno came and it became brig Juno or Ana juno
hybrid hollow
They should have committed on the one trick
They couldn't they killed Sombra the comp was too hard to run
balmy hound
I thought Sombra got reworked after the playoffs
hybrid hollow
She still got nerfed
balmy hound
Fair
hybrid hollow
Donghak sucked on everything that wasn't Winston at the time as well
balmy hound
Emp was shutting down Falcons on circuit Royale
hybrid hollow
Actually he lowkey sucked on Winston
hybrid hollow
We do need a meta change Mei is sleeper
hybrid hollow
I don't wall is so strong
hybrid hollow
only reason it's ok for now is bc tanks are so over tuned they don't die even if they get walled
balmy hound
The strat of walling Ram, and sombra hacking block was fun
But it was crazy that sometimes Hanbin didn’t even die
hybrid hollow
Bring back some characters like Genji
If hitscan gets buffed in a dive meta we'll probably see some genji as well instead of the echo tracer full dive
balmy hound
After having all those abilities used on him
balmy hound
If hitscan gets buffed in a dive meta we'll probably see some genji as well inst...
Genji plays into hitscan the best out of the other dive DPS? 🤔🤔
hybrid hollow
I mean defect and he's better than echo into hitscan
But at the same time if hitscan is strong during dive you'll probably see a lot 2-3 core dive
balmy hound
I think they should figure out how to make dryblade good
And just buff his damage to 30
I don’t see any reason why he can’t get his old damage with the increased health pools
hybrid hollow
something about breakpoints that's what they keep saying when talking about increasing DMG in relation to the health changes
balmy hound
What’s Genji head shot multiplier?
Is it 1.5x or 2x
But that also reminds me
Is a double hitscan Meta in pro and comp unhealthy for the game
hybrid hollow
Is a double hitscan Meta in pro and comp unhealthy for the game
Yes bc double hitscan usually means some type of double sniper
balmy hound
Cassidy and soldier aren’t really snipers
Neither is bastion
Sojourn would count if rail is back in its release state
hybrid hollow
Cassidy and soldier aren’t really snipers
Yeah but Cass soldier is just horrible
There's no world where double hitscan is being played without one shots
glass sleet
Will TSM actually win again
Will they actually win a tournament for once?
Let’s find out
In 20+ mins
glass sleet
How are we still 1 map in
No it’s the advantage TSM gets for not dropping to lower bracket
You get a free win for making it all the way to grand finals without losing
hybrid hollow
You get a free win for making it all the way to grand finals without losing
Ohhh
glass sleet
Was there a break
Yeah 20 min break
hybrid hollow
Tsm vs timeless should be somewhat interesting I hope
glass sleet
Ohhh
It was the same thing with SSG and ence but I was so confused because I thought ence won first map
glass sleet
Tsm vs timeless should be somewhat interesting I hope
They played in upper bracket finals and it was 3-1
But Juno is banned in na
hybrid hollow
My tracer otp is on reaper but he's kinda nice at it
Maybe I should stop calling rokit a tracer otp
glass sleet
My tracer otp is on reaper but he's kinda nice at it
Do they still have chopper?
hybrid hollow
I think so
glass sleet
Maybe I should stop calling rokit a tracer otp
Anyone can play reaper
Reaper is really good now
It’s scrubby af
I should probably connect my twitch account to FACEIT for the rewards
hybrid hollow
Must say giving them a free map is stupid
I got tsm winning this anyways but still
balmy hound
There's no world where double hitscan is being played without one shots
Why?
glass sleet
Must say giving them a free map is stupid
I get it. It’s like other games.
hybrid hollow
Why?
Bc double hitscan has 0 map control or real pressure otherwise
Double hitscan is free eats for any dive comp
I hope we get replays codes bc I really wanna hyper fixate on this orisa eichenwalde comp
I seen Toronto play it to at one point it's a new patch
Well nvm timeless fell over
deft nacelle
Timeless almost beat NTMR that almost beat TOR
doomed got bent over by fucking pge bro 😭
hybrid hollow
doomed got bent over by fucking pge bro 😭
Lowkey most of the deaths weren't even doomed being bad pge was just hitting his shots when he needed to
He can't sense that widow has an angle on him when he's tryna blink back to spawn
balmy hound
Bc double hitscan has 0 map control or real pressure otherwise
I guess man
Tho I thought Cass was good as a anti dive backline
hybrid hollow
Tho I thought Cass was good as a anti dive backline
All he can do is stop the tracer from over extending on himself he can't act shutdown the other areas of the map tracer wants
Plus at this level of play tracer isnt worried about Cass when she's usually there to poke at backline and follow up
deft nacelle
Lowkey most of the deaths weren't even doomed being bad pge was just hitting his...
Vision was getting widow diffed so hard too
i dont think he won a single duel
hybrid hollow
Vision was getting widow diffed so hard too
Vision 24/7 cosmetic
glass sleet
TSM Actually might win a tournament
What exactly are the FACEIT drops?
@hybrid hollow guess who’s back
hybrid hollow
<@707268359254966354> guess who’s back
Hydron?
hybrid hollow
Aw hell nah 😭😭
hybrid hollow
Wait it's lethal
glass sleet
ITS MFING LETHAL
hybrid hollow
I forgot he was here ngl
glass sleet
I forgot he was here ngl
Cuz he’s on NTMR?
hybrid hollow
oh wtf
glass sleet
Lol
hybrid hollow
Nah ntmr signing lethal and clear is evil
glass sleet
Bro shows up out of nowhere. Even enemy team asking wtf he’s doing there
glass sleet
Nah ntmr signing lethal and clear is evil
Clear I get I guess but still having lethal is evil
I guess lethal is still on timeless for FACEIT roster
glass sleet
I believe
Not cuz I have 10k on this game
Crazy how lethal who hasn’t played with this team for two months is doing better than vision
LESSSGOOOOO
my 10k became 30k
hybrid hollow
Lethal playing soj is hilarious
glass sleet
Lethal is the key
glass sleet
Lethal playing soj is hilarious
Why?
hybrid hollow
Bro thinks he's still in s10
glass sleet
Bro thinks he's still in s10
I mean he probably saw Proper play soj today
hybrid hollow
damn
glass sleet
Bc he's genuinely playing it bc he just doesn't know what to run
Hmmmmm nah I think he saw proper play and thought he can do that too
hybrid hollow
Only lethal could make it work
glass sleet
So far, he not crazy.
hybrid hollow
Proper got carried (I didn't watch the game)
glass sleet
Proper got carried (I didn't watch the game)
He popped off with ult then got rolled and went Sombra
glass sleet
Proper got carried (I didn't watch the game)
Btw did you connect your account to to FACEIT for drops?
hybrid hollow
You can do that?
glass sleet
I have no idea what the drops are but yes
FACEIT has so many cool shit btw
I’m hoping it’s points
glass sleet
You can do that?
On FACEIT stream, scroll down and you’ll find where to sign up
I think
glass sleet
I haven’t seen any
They’re not on twitch I think. It’s for their own website
I believe it’s points. You gain enough points that you can use them for so many cool shit
glass sleet
Don’t you need to play to earn points ?
Playing also earns you points yes, but I guess this is another way to up their viewership which is working I think since first season was WAY LESS
glass sleet
Ngl wish I signed up when playoffs started.
Is Lethal that guy?
Is he hitscan or freaking flex?
static turret
These teams look a lot better than the last time i watched them
glass sleet
He’s playing everything
static turret
Maybe I’ll watch these matches
glass sleet
Maybe I’ll watch these matches
How nice of you
Btw Cuffa and Lethal are the two imports on timeless
I’m pretty sure FACEIT roster has import rules…right?
static turret
Might
I wish blizz would allow for faceit to make their own drops
Like faceit color ways
Is it first to 4?
glass sleet
Ok now TSM are desperate bringing in Chopper
hybrid hollow
console faceit integration make it happen somehow pls 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
glass sleet
I wish blizz would allow for faceit to make their own drops
Bro. FACEIT has their own irl merch, they have so many game currencies for so many games, they have so much shit bro, you can get skins through their store too.
hybrid hollow
The console community would be so much better if there were real consistent tourneys
static turret
I saw that
Too many xims
In the top console
I was spectating a t20 console tourney and like 70% of them I’m p sure we’re xims
hybrid hollow
I was spectating a t20 console tourney and like 70% of them I’m p sure we’re xi...
Oh yeah
Ximming ruining the fun again
static turret
There’s a lot of good roller players tho
I wouldn’t mind seeing a console sponsored tourney
hybrid hollow
On FACEIT stream, scroll down and you’ll find where to sign up
I don't see it but I'll look into later today
glass sleet
I don't see it but I'll look into later today
By later you mean playoffs for season 3? Lol
Same
hybrid hollow
I wouldn’t mind seeing a console sponsored tourney
Would help make console less casual
glass sleet
Lethal is amazing and he doesn’t even scrim with timeless
hybrid hollow
What's overwatch without the casual c9
glass sleet
Valorant
static turret
Sig half !!!
I think he wanted everyone know that sig was half
Wait
Who is lethal
glass sleet
LETHAL IS CRAZY BRO
glass sleet
Who is lethal
A Turkish player
static turret
Bro is farming
glass sleet
He’s the guy that 1v1 YZNSA on torb during OWWC
glass sleet
Tsm is a sad team man
They were actually ROLLING TML until lethal came in
static turret
Game changing player
Tsm at one point ppl were calling them a top 3 na team
And now
I don’t even think they’re top 5
glass sleet
Game changing player
He doesn’t even scrim with TML I think. He was playing for NTMR as a replacement for seeker till he was available. I guess they said “fuck it we need to change players” and brought lethal in
Since he’s on timeless for FACEIT roster
static turret
Good player
glass sleet
Tsm at one point ppl were calling them a top 3 na team
They had raikker and ICY played off tanks
static turret
Tsm about to get reversed swept
glass sleet
He plays hyperflex I guess
glass sleet
Tsm about to get reversed swept
They’re only tied rn cuz TSM had the bonus map win
glass sleet
Also on another note hadi is looking more comfortable
Yeah I hope so. Imagine his ram is as bad as his winton
static turret
Next meta might be a Winston meta
But i expect ram to be just as strong
But they need to sign a good off tank
glass sleet
Next meta might be a Winston meta
Idk. It depends on the armor changes
glass sleet
But they need to sign a good off tank
You mean main tank
static turret
His Winston is questionable
glass sleet
His Winston is questionable
At best
static turret
Hadi can barely play main tank if it’s not brawl
glass sleet
Hadi can barely play main tank if it’s not brawl
Main tank is like winton, rein, doom, ball?
static turret
Yea
glass sleet
He plays off tanks
glass sleet
Ram, Dva, sigma, and such
static turret
Ram is a main
glass sleet
Looked iffy
Mhm
glass sleet
Ram is a main
Off tank brother
static turret
Wut
hybrid hollow
Ram is weird
static turret
They don’t count ram as main?
hybrid hollow
If 6v6 still existed he'll probably be a main tank
glass sleet
Ram is off tank cuz most rush tanks are off tanks
hybrid hollow
But a lot of off tank players play ram
static turret
I see
glass sleet
If 6v6 still existed he'll probably be a main tank
He doesn’t have any real shields
static turret
That’s something new
hybrid hollow
Yeah but you don't need a shield to be a main tank
static turret
Also
hybrid hollow
The game has changed a lot
glass sleet
The best EU off tank player is known for his Ram
static turret
Is na and eu not allowed to play the juno?
static turret
Lethal is actually the mvp of this series
glass sleet
Lethal is actually the mvp of this series
I will be furious if he’s not
Even if they lose
hybrid hollow
Nah lethal came off the bench 0 scrim time 0 playtime in like the last few events and he's cooking
glass sleet
Nah lethal came off the bench 0 scrim time 0 playtime in like the last few event...
Idk for sure if he had no scrims since he wasn’t really playing for weeks.
Guys
Swap seeker for lethal
Permanently
hybrid hollow
no way you get reverse swept with a free map win
hybrid hollow
Bc lethal and seeker have some overlap with their hero pools but if we needed to run tracer sombra I Lowkey want seeker in
glass sleet
The only main stay would be zeruhh
We calling fdps main now?
hybrid hollow
We calling fdps main now?
Main stay in terms of not getting subbed
glass sleet
Bc lethal and seeker have some overlap with their hero pools but if we needed to...
I don’t. Lethal over seeker every time
static turret
Lethal is face tanking 4 ppl and his team just wipes
static turret
And here’s the mauga
hybrid hollow
like zeruhh would never get subbed but I can see swapping out seeker and lethal for certain maps
glass sleet
like zeruhh would never get subbed but I can see swapping out seeker and lethal ...
What does seeker play that lethal is worse at?
hybrid hollow
I wanna say tracer just bc I don't know how lethal is on tracer
glass sleet
I wanna say tracer just bc I don't know how lethal is on tracer
He’s…well let’s just say lethal
hybrid hollow
If there was like a venture tracer or genji tracer meta then who ever is better at tracer would play
glass sleet
I wanna say tracer just bc I don't know how lethal is on tracer
Ok let’s say he can’t play tracer, zeruhh would play tracer and he would play echo.
hybrid hollow
Depends on the meta
glass sleet
I’m pretty sure he plays genji echo pharah
hybrid hollow
in definitely a little biased tho bc I've been calling seeker the most underrated player in na since owl
Seeker has always been consistent compared to the other na talent
static turret
Cuffa killed everyone
hybrid hollow
Wait I looked up and I see two maugas
glass sleet
Yeah he’s not bad but I believe lethal is way better. He was literally carrying citrus
hybrid hollow
End this game now
glass sleet
This is how TSM wins. Lethal disconnects
hybrid hollow
The young goat
glass sleet
End this game now
Relax. We can have a mauga mirror for one round
glass sleet
Lethal realized his monitor was off the whole time and asked for a pause to turn it on
hybrid hollow
Wait cuffa is kinda crazy on the maug
static turret
Wait
glass sleet
SO CLOSE
static turret
Wtf
hybrid hollow
Damn
static turret
How did they lose ?
glass sleet
Pause was so late that it costs lethal the couple % that he needed
Idk if admins can pause so quickly
Maybe they need to check or something
I’ll be heartbroken if TML lose like that
Lethal’s sens is super slow
wise orbit
dang i missed the emea grand final
glass sleet
They actually nano lethal every time
glass sleet
Why is the 4th best Winston in NA from oce
Who the first 3?
static turret
They have no ults
glass sleet
No way lethal leaves like that lol
glass sleet
Bro was on high ping and still rolled
He’s in NA
glass sleet
So just bad internet
Yes
glass sleet
He’s in NA for collage I think
hybrid hollow
nah lethal got subbed in and pulled the reverse sweep out his ass when tsm had a free point
glass sleet
nah lethal got subbed in and pulled the reverse sweep out his ass when tsm had a...
Lethal is the best NA player
hybrid hollow
vision knew he wasn't that guy after pge shit on him that day
static turret
Lethal dunking on tsm
glass sleet
Bro running home with his groceries
hybrid hollow
Ow player has a girlfriend?? Nah he's too strong
static turret
Bro wasn’t eve watching the match
hybrid hollow
nerf lethal
hybrid hollow
I was convinced na would be sleeper today
glass sleet
Yeah lol
static turret
That the last match?
hybrid hollow
Na lowkey back
glass sleet
Timeless isn’t better than TSM. LETHAL IS
glass sleet
seeker benched now I fear
I hope lethal is still on ntmr
static turret
Lethal still play for ntmr for owcs?
glass sleet
I really want him to play on NTMR
glass sleet
Lethal still play for ntmr for owcs?
Idk maybe they got rid of him
static turret
Any more matches tmmr ?
glass sleet
No
hybrid hollow
nope
hybrid hollow
What about owcs?
No idea when Asia 2 starts or when stage 4 starts
imagine if his girlfriend just said no
glass sleet
It’s crazy how one player can change so much in pro level
hybrid hollow
Timeless lose here
static turret
Tsm needs to go the Korea bootcamp
glass sleet
Tsm needs to go the Korea bootcamp
TSM need to get lethal