I guess this is why Sombra is always played by Hitscans
#esports-discussion
balmy hound
hybrid hollow
Sombra is a weird one
balmy hound
For most teams, I’ve seen the flex stay on tracer, and hitscan go sombra
glass sleet
People underestimate what a healthy body can do for your mental and especially focus.
weary talon
I guess this is why Sombra is always played by Hitscans
Hitscans play sombra cause the flex dps plays tracer then
balmy hound
Hitscans play sombra cause the flex dps plays tracer then
Yuh
weary talon
But a lot of sombra performances in pro ow are just ass
glass sleet
Don’t you fucking dare say that shit
balmy hound
But Sombra is just an easier tracer
hybrid hollow
Whoever plays Sombra is usually the worse tracer player
balmy hound
Yeah
glass sleet
Shy is a better tracer than lip
hybrid hollow
Don’t you fucking dare say that shit
What other hitscan is actually competitive on tracer
balmy hound
Except sugar free letting merit play tracer
weary talon
Last year when sombra tracer was hard meta all tje hitscans were on sombra and all of them were ass
balmy hound
That one time
weary talon
Except lip
hybrid hollow
Shy is a better tracer than lip
I fear he isn't
weary talon
Because lip is the goat
glass sleet
What other hitscan is actually competitive on tracer
Shy was literally diffing Lip in the 1v1
balmy hound
Last year when sombra tracer was hard meta all tje hitscans were on sombra and a...
What even happened in the playoffs
hybrid hollow
I don't think lip tracer is like s tier or anything but like he's better than every other hitscan tracer rn
balmy hound
That reminds me
hybrid hollow
Quartz tracer is horrible
glass sleet
Nah wtf
hybrid hollow
Worse than youbis
weary talon
What even happened in the playoffs
Meta changed and donghak boomed and fielder and chiyo and donghak got diffed in the dive mirror
glass sleet
He’s never lost on tracer
balmy hound
Remember when Flora tried to play tracer in EWC
glass sleet
Meta changed and donghak boomed and fielder and chiyo and donghak got diffed in ...
Watch your mouth.
hybrid hollow
He’s never lost on tracer
Doesn't mean it isn't bad
weary talon
Watch your mouth.
?
balmy hound
Meta changed and donghak boomed and fielder and chiyo and donghak got diffed in ...
Damn. I wonder what the meta changed to
glass sleet
NA was shit tho
weary talon
Damn. I wonder what the meta changed to
It went from winston dive to orisa and sigma bastion symm cringe
hybrid hollow
It's just better than the other hitscan tracers
balmy hound
But Atlanta Reign looked so lost in those playoffs
They just didn’t know what to do it seemed
hybrid hollow
But Atlanta Reign looked so lost in those playoffs
Meta change
glass sleet
But Atlanta Reign looked so lost in those playoffs
Cuz they refused to scrim any other comp and got fucked when the meta changed
weary talon
Lip is the best hitscan and he has a good enough tracer and a godly sombra
hybrid hollow
Yep
glass sleet
Guys
balmy hound
Damn
weary talon
Cuz they refused to scrim any other comp and got fucked when the meta changed
Gator ego lel
balmy hound
One tricks got their chain snatched
glass sleet
You don’t understand Lip’s tracer only looks good cuz he’s on a fucking stacked team carrying his tracer ass
hybrid hollow
That's what I'm saying
weary talon
Not really
hybrid hollow
His tracer is mid asf
glass sleet
Gator ego lel
Not even his fault. HIS PLAYERS refused to practice other comps.
balmy hound
His tracer still mid
I wonder why more pro Hitscan players don’t learn tracer
hybrid hollow
compared to actual flex dps who has a worse tracer than lip besides youbi?
balmy hound
Since like the teams that have a good hitscan tracer are pretty much set for any meta
glass sleet
I wonder why more pro Hitscan players don’t learn tracer
Cuz they’re a bunch of aimers
weary talon
compared to actual flex dps who has a worse tracer than lip besides youbi?
Sugarfree lol
balmy hound
I mean Tracer does take aim tho
weary talon
And a lot of na flex
balmy hound
Even if she’s mostly IQ
hybrid hollow
I wonder why more pro Hitscan players don’t learn tracer
They used to back in the day
glass sleet
Guys…
weary talon
A lot emea flex are worse than lip on tracer
hybrid hollow
Same with eu
glass sleet
Did this fella just say sugarfree’s tracer is worse than Lip’s?
hybrid hollow
Most of eu isn't t1
weary talon
Lip clears seicoe and sauna
weary talon
And backbone
weary talon
Did this fella just say sugarfree’s tracer is worse than Lip’s?
Yeah
hybrid hollow
Lip clears seicoe and sauna
Sauna maybe but seicoe is better
glass sleet
Y’all takes are fucking wild
hybrid hollow
And backbone doesn't play tracer
sullen berry
Most improved since this guy singlehandedly sabotaged Seoul Dynasty last year
weary talon
Lip’s shanghai tracer was really really good
hybrid hollow
It's not 2021 I fear
sullen berry
To beating Team Falcons in a qualifier like God damn
weary talon
It's not 2021 I fear
You dont forget to play tracer in 3 seasons just like that
hybrid hollow
it's not that he forgot how it's just everyone else consistently played the hero for 3 seasons
He didnt
weary talon
it's not that he forgot how it's just everyone else consistently played the hero...
And hes still better than a lot of flex dps on tracer
hybrid hollow
not really
weary talon
Tracer Echo Mei Pharah?
Tracer echo mainly
hybrid hollow
Actual competitive flex dps he just isn't
balmy hound
I wonder how many of the flex DPS know how to play Genji
weary talon
Actual competitive flex dps he just isn't
Yeah by this you already sort a lot of mediocre flex dps out
hybrid hollow
yes yes I am
weary talon
Yes i am too
Im not saying hes the best on tracer
But hes better than a lot of flex dos
hybrid hollow
yeah but it kinda implies that he's better on tracer than what he really is
Make lip play tracer on a team that isn't cr and it looks 10x worse
balmy hound
Yo do tank players getting subbed have anything to “main tanks/off tanks”
hybrid hollow
Yo do tank players getting subbed have anything to “main tanks/off tanks”
Yes
weary talon
Make lip play tracer on a team that isn't cr and it looks 10x worse
I mean yes everyone’s singular performance is boosted by the collective performances
hybrid hollow
Some maps require off tank heros pools some maps require main tank hero pools
weary talon
Junbin was considered to be very mid last year on shock
hybrid hollow
tbf
balmy hound
What heroes are main and off tank?
hybrid hollow
That was crusty being stupid
weary talon
But now hes really really good
balmy hound
What’s a common tank hero pool?
hybrid hollow
The moment owl ended he looked better bc he was playing the heros he actually wanted to
balmy hound
Junbin was considered to be very mid last year on shock
Yeah, I heard Junbin, Heesang, and Proper all played for the same OWL team, but failed
hybrid hollow
What heroes are main and off tank?
Main tank players are usually in for Winston rein doom ball orisa and I guess mauga as well but who can't play mauga
And off tanks usually run the sig dva zar queen
balmy hound
Hmmm
hybrid hollow
But after joats a few main tanks learned queen like Smurf and junbin
balmy hound
I would’ve assumed main tanks played both Dva and Winston
hybrid hollow
dva was always an off tank in ow1 so all the off tank players naturally learned dva
but for the "ow2" tank players they kinda just play whatever
weary talon
That was crusty being stupid
Crusty putting max on off tank and junbin on bap
Actual crackpipe coaching
hybrid hollow
Like Infekted plays sig monkey and ball
balmy hound
Like the closest is usually Queen/Dva with Lucio kiriko
weary talon
I hardly see any brawl in Korea
Historic differences between regions
balmy hound
And then you look at EMEA
weary talon
Asia always preferred dive
balmy hound
All they do is brawl
weary talon
And Europe always favoured brawl
lavish prism
Asia loves monkey, EU loves brawl
balmy hound
Yeah
weary talon
And na is jsut whatever really
hybrid hollow
And na is always budget Korea at the top and everyone else runs the braindead rush comp
lavish prism
Na is just counterswap or Meta OTP's c:
hybrid hollow
pretty much actually
hybrid hollow
see this guy gets its
balmy hound
I just wanna see Genji meta again
lavish prism
Ew
hybrid hollow
Bring back real overwatch
weary talon
Lowkey want some sig hog widow
lavish prism
Ew
hybrid hollow
Lowkey want some sig hog widow
Alright how do we ban this guy
balmy hound
I have never seen hog in pro
Besides that one Crazy Racoon vs Falcons match
A few months ago
hybrid hollow
I have never seen hog in pro
Watch the 2020 playoffs
lavish prism
Hog Zarya was how washington justice upset a bunch of teams
hybrid hollow
Hog Zarya was how washington justice upset a bunch of teams
Ts was so stupid 😭
Crazy luck on the meta and they should've never made it that far anyways
lavish prism
Decay just turns into god when on an ass team somehow
Did it for dallas, did it for washington after
hybrid hollow
I thought junbin was gonna slam off the map
viscid hatch
Lowkey want some sig hog widow
High skill expression it was good
Just came at a bad time
sullen berry
is it really pro play if I'm watching shu getting bombed by a D.Va in 2024?
the season of circuit royal sigma is over
viscid hatch
Istg
weary scarab
noway
glass sleet
the season of circuit royal sigma is over
Poor sigma would get rolled on this map against that comp
Literally stepping on him
glass sleet
I unfortunately only got around to watching last season of owl
sullen berry
they're taking a break before playoffs where the games have any real stakes for them
sullen berry
I unfortunately only got around to watching last season of owl
this is a video from the notorious Gladiators coach John Galt, from the games he's coached under DPei he breaks down how NYXL is baiscally throwing
if you don't have 17 minutes, take the 60s to watch NYXL say it themselves that they weren't trying before playoffs
glass sleet
https://youtu.be/GG340PVPylo?si=7arCeFae_5LAQIRR
Yeah but CR didn’t look like they’re throwing that map. They were really trying.
sullen berry
if you think someone in the server is even capable of that, you've misunderstood why we even have 17k viewers in the first place
sullen berry
Is that lol?
LPL is China's League division
glass sleet
I see
sullen berry
We’ll lose all the viewers
I'd have to sub out Finn to be able to shut down a free 10k viewers in Japan
glass sleet
Ball is broken.
Junbin does whatever he wants on ball and the chaos is enough to overwhelm the enemy team
sullen berry
he's not broken
glass sleet
No ball is actually busted. The buffs he got just made him unstoppable.
sullen berry
it's a skill issue - knowing that the top team in the world cannot get hard countered is a win for both supports and the dps who have to switch to focus him
glass sleet
The extra stun, the overhealth for teammates, the grapple resets, and ammo buffs all just made him way better.
sullen berry
No ball is actually busted. The buffs he got just made him unstoppable.
the buffs he got last patch benefits his team, he's not impossible if you don't have the grapple mechanics down
glass sleet
the buffs he got last patch benefits his team, he's not impossible if you don't ...
Ball is so hard to deal with that whenever a tank picks him up, they perform better against CR if they were on anyone else. Teams losing 99-0 against raccoon but then rounds always go to 99-99 when the tank started playing ball. Just tells you the chaos is unbelievable
And they’re not even that good on ball
robust patio
DAMMNNNN
sullen berry
listen i don't think you've noticed that belosrea is a ball main
glass sleet
Yeah
sullen berry
map streak got broken - their first map loss in a long while
robust patio
frfr
glass sleet
Map loss since EWC
glass sleet
You’re wrong
hazy marsh
viol2ts best map 😭
glass sleet
It’s Poker Face
hazy marsh
"i got money"
glass sleet
Not falcons for sure
robust patio
poker beating falc
sullen berry
considering zetas last game vs raccoons went an embarrassing 3-0
sullen berry
zeta were not having that shit
sullen berry
falcons vs poker face was fire
glass sleet
how did falc fumble so bad
Hey PF are actually really good
robust patio
yes
sullen berry
they be losing to top 4 owcs korea team
judging by their map 5 on flashpoint it was too slow for them and poker waited it out
glass sleet
I had coffee already and I need more coffee but if I have more coffee I’m gonna get irritated
weary scarab
falcons vs poker face was fire
did majed play
glass sleet
did majed play
Yes
glass sleet
Is it?
robust patio
yep
sullen berry
did majed play
unfortunately
glass sleet
I mean even then. It’s a completely new roster
robust patio
did majed play
falc lost cus of majeds comms
glass sleet
falc lost cus of majeds comms
Fr. Even the other games that he didn’t play was cuz of his comms. Falcons were too confused afterwards that they just forgot Korean
Btw
Kellan is the goat
glass sleet
Because it’s the meta for that map
robust patio
why not have majed
glass sleet
Because other round would be Lucio
glass sleet
why not have majed
They wanted to play Ana brig but chiyo was forced to swap to illary
glass sleet
I mean his illary isn’t it
sullen berry
I had coffee already and I need more coffee but if I have more coffee I’m gonna ...
I'll take the coffee
about to sleep though lmao
sullen berry
considering zetas last game vs raccoons went an embarrassing 3-0
amusing to see viol2t's ult backfire on him, but the team manages to cap
glass sleet
either way theres no way they beating
CR’s weakness is Juno
glass sleet
I'll take the coffee
I’d love to have more coffee but I know it makes me easily irritated
sullen berry
CRS FIRST LOSS????
||https://x.com/AIMWITHPRIDE/status/1830204298048963023|| the winning moment from japanese casters fits the mood so damn well
paper totem
I’m surprised hesang is getting pharah diffed so hard
glass sleet
2-2
weary scarab
@robust patio
glass sleet
I took a nap when cr vs Zeta started expecting a 3-0
That’s me with tor v nrg
glass sleet
unrelated
What’s that
You gain points from Microsoft and you can buy things with the points?
sullen berry
that's how people have been getting the past 5-12 battle passes completely free
glass sleet
I didn’t know that
kind gyro
Wouldn’t be surprised if that little girl is coaching CR rn
glass sleet
I’m really sorry I’m very ignorant
sullen berry
!jumbo 
young fractalBOT
sullen berry
Wouldn’t be surprised if that little girl is coaching CR rn
legal age for coaching is ideally the same as the pro players (17+)
glass sleet
Who’s the coach for NRG
kind gyro
legal age for coaching is ideally the same as the pro players (17+)
No like there’s literally a toddler in the CR break room LMAO
glass sleet
2-2
robust patio
MAP 5 FOR CR
sullen berry
No like there’s literally a toddler in the CR break room LMAO
oh right, i forgot those are live feeds
robust patio
JEEZ
sullen berry
I know it's not hard to drop into the map but they're so in sync
JUNBIN BALLIN
this is so high risk into an orisa
completely destroyed immortality, classic ball main strats
honestly if flora can keep doing what he's done on circuit
there's a chance that crazy raccoon fumble it
sullen berry
honestly? I don't think that self stagger was on purpose
like it doesn't benefit the team with the wave respawn
but it sorta worked - no crowd reaction to an intense first point
paper totem
I mean why didn’t he die on point
sullen berry
and then the swap to juno
paper totem
When they lost first fight
sullen berry
I mean why didn’t he die on point
depends on if he wanted to stagger his death and be behind his team or contest for nothing on the point
hard to say if bernar noticed he could've attempted a cap
paper totem
hard to say if bernar noticed he could've attempted a cap
No I mean they had point control but he left when only 2 ppl and self stagger
Vs die on point extend ur cap
Also Junbin spawn camp lol
sullen berry
ball is extremely good on this particular point of the map
boopable zones, very nice grapples and ult is a no brainer
paper totem
Cr wins this
sullen berry
Junbin get down, it very danger
paper totem
Zeta is not managing ult economy well
I prefer this dva pick
Feel better if their goal is to mitigate Junbin
That beat was smarty
Forced Juno
ggs
sullen berry
scripted L
sullen berry
viol2t Juno has potential 
paper totem
Not sure if Orisa was the play
paper totem
Democratic gonna get a hard on from this one lol
Hesang did betttee on last match
He was gettin rekt on kings row
robust patio
viol2t Juno has potential <:COPIUM:888228552963661844>
who won
tepid ibex
Losing 3 straight 3-2’s damn
robust patio
CR JUST CANT LOSEEEEEEEEE
tepid ibex
And zeta can’t win a 3-2
robust patio
i dont see a downfall
sullen berry
who won
"Sir if you can hear me, congratulations LIP on winning POTM"
that should have been a lot closer, ZETA delivered a solid map 5
paper totem
"Sir if you can hear me, congratulations LIP on winning POTM"
Wait why did lip get it
kind gyro
He’s Him
paper totem
Bro they never give anyone spotlight on cr other than lip
robust patio
"Sir if you can hear me, congratulations LIP on winning POTM"
i think everyone got a potm except Max and chorong
at this point
paper totem
I swear he gets it every time
paper totem
shu got Mvp for ewc
Lip is just flashy hitscan he gets it most
sullen berry
@robust patio post match interview on Juno:
LIP: We played pretty well against her, personally I need a little bit more practice against it
paper totem
Lot of talent on cr just doesn’t get spotlight unfortunately
kind gyro
You don’t have the goat on your roster and not give him attention tbf
sullen berry
also probably lip: "I would like to sincerely apologize that we didn't 3-0 this time - I have let you down"
glass sleet
Idk why Lip got it
sullen berry
I'm paraphrasing!
glass sleet
Wreckingball is POTM
robust patio
FANS ARE THANKING LIP FOR GETTING CR A MAP 5
sullen berry
Trust me when I say OWCS thrives when matches are close, put aside the power rankings or the actual skill at play
robust patio
even if cr loses
sullen berry
I want another toilet bowl match during Korea Playoffs
robust patio
im sure they still have seed first
paper totem
Trust me when I say OWCS thrives when matches are close, put aside the power ran...
It thrives when I’m watching Korea region
sullen berry
and see who secures 4th place, that's more interesting for me imo
glass sleet
Should I knock on ow_esports?
sullen berry
It thrives when I’m watching Korea region
It thrives when you go back to sleep
paper totem
Na and Europe trash compared to Korea
sullen berry
paper totem
No sleep
robust patio
It thrives when you **go back to sleep**
LOL
sullen berry
half of you should be
paper totem
No
sullen berry
as it's just turned monday here
paper totem
The good region on
robust patio
as it's just turned monday here
damn
paper totem
Why NA trash
sullen berry
any of you still up on NA time (EU is an exception because you're equally as weird)
robust patio
me in navy
kind gyro
I usually wake up at this time anyways
robust patio
paper totem
US me shit sleep bc I wanna watch Korea OWCS bc my region sucks donkey dick
sullen berry
look everyone's sleep is awful because of OWCS
it was a lot more tolerable during OWL because they weren't doing different regions on the weekday
NA/EMEA only do the weekend
Asia is 7 days a week
paper totem
Only na worth watching is our glorious god chazm
glass sleet
I guess Japan got that anime money fr. Top two orgs rn are both Japanese.
sullen berry
Only na worth watching is our glorious god chazm
crazy how people misspell PGE in 2024
paper totem
crazy how people misspell PGE in 2024
I love pge
kind gyro
Weird way to spell Infekted
glass sleet
LETS GO NTMR
sullen berry
Weird way to spell Infekted
illogical way to spell CLEAR
paper totem
When miro coming back?
sullen berry
If it wasn't in the middle of my workday, I'd watch NA
paper totem
sullen berry
When miro coming back?
wheres my goat SMURF
surely his team is at the top of the standings on Team Falcons 
All my saudi homies have been saying their team is number one
paper totem
surely his team is at the top of the standings on Team Falcons <:Clueless:956686...
Smurf has not been performing well
Smurf kinda dog recently Ngl
sullen berry
god damn I can't believe this last match decides who goes to playoffs next week
paper totem
Comparatively
kind gyro
wheres my goat SMURF
sullen berry
surely Fnatic have it figured out now they can't mess aorund
sullen berry
https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme...
I'm down for the D4rt dark horse run
paper totem
wheres my goat SMURF
The only cr player I like a lot is Junbin bc he plays ball. Ball is such a fun tank to watch but it’s rare to see him even in OWCS
Very high skill
hybrid hollow
Donghak when he remembers he's a fraud
sullen berry
Donghak when he remembers he's a fraud
paper totem
Ok im watching back is heesang comfortable on pharah or does someone else usually play pharah on cr
kind gyro
Revenge from Atlanta
sullen berry
heesang has always been their main flex dps
sullen berry
i refuse to believe that donghak is being held back by his team like he was on atlanta reign
kind gyro
It was just a bad map for him he’s usually better at pharah
paper totem
I forget Zeta flex dps name
sullen berry
because they won that season, yet he was literally getting bullied off the team internally
kind gyro
I forget Zeta flex dps name
Alphayi my goat
paper totem
it's in the pinned tweet by the admins
kk
I want to watch Ashe povs too
I can’t find the posts
Might need to search a bit
kind gyro
It usually takes a bit it’s not immediate
sullen berry
I want to watch Ashe povs too
Here's yesterday's replay codes for all 5 maps
actually a good watch if you do find it - you import the codes and you should be able to watch the full match in game
paper totem
Here's yesterday's replay codes for all 5 maps
How did u access these tho
sullen berry
it's public
sly lagoon
what
sullen berry
the spreadsheet gets updated a day after
sly lagoon
oh
sullen berry
forgot there was a ping attached LMAO sorry
just a reminder you are the greatest admin
please don't tell pemmer
sly lagoon
np was confused LMAO
paper totem
@sly lagoon my goat ily
sullen berry
they're usually associated with redirecting people to viruses/malware
so for security you are automuted/potentially banned if you send links that take you somewhere else
that link just happens to be sus for the servers that it can be whitelisted if an admin posts it instead
lol
Her reaction gets me every time https://www.twitch.tv/ow_esports/clip/AltruisticInspiringTortoiseCoolStoryBob-K1fSxPBDRoXhSvhP
Can we get a Philadephia level upset from VEC?
classic juno hypering rollout and switch
sullen berry
Jinmu doesn't miss on Pharah like it's 2018
static pond
Poker beating falcons?
static pond
No like there’s literally a toddler in the CR break room LMAO
Prob moon daughter
kind gyro
Ah
static pond
Just started watching and I see Donghak destroying mauga on doom
Well killing everyone
Looking back at the maps why does lip tracer look so good now it not even his tracking he looks like fdps lol
hybrid hollow
Yeah ngl he hit a few pulses that were kinda nice
But I can't bring myself to admit this so his tracer is still mid
plush grail
Jinmu doesn't miss on Pharah like it's 2018
im sorry kenobi
but what the fuck is this clip
he ults a dva
then hits a baby dva who's running into him
then hits a stationary ulting pharah
i could do this
while drunk
sullen berry
okay but can you do it while speaking chinese while raising your APM
sub in diya Team CC
the hell are they picking blizzard world
jimmy (poco) is going to tear them a new one
sullen berry
jinmu with the Jade + LE SSERAFIM + ducky buff on map 5
deft marlin
Zeta got 2 wins on CR???
sullen berry
yeah go watch it
deft marlin
Lemme find out CR’s reign over Korea and Ultra’s reign over NA are coming to an end
sullen berry
what
deft marlin
I’m saying everyone is expecting CR and Ultra to 3-0 everyone in their region, obviously CR won but maybe they aren’t as unbreakable as some think
2 wins on CR at the end of the day is still progress
balmy hound
Well, Toronto actually loss
But I get what you mean
I’m surprised Lip was doing so well at tracer
The guy only played Hitscan like once or twice throughout the entire match
glass sleet
Guys who won first map of fnatic v VEC
hybrid hollow
Guys who won first map of fnatic v VEC
Fnatic
static turret
what
Toronto got dunked on
Attack is actually insane
Tree and scissors were cooking
Pge actually played the game seriously
Cal wasn’t cosmetic for once
Uv and rak good as usual
runic socket
Are there any upcoming matches today?
runic socket
At what time?
runic socket
I cannot see on twitch?
static turret
ow_esports
runic socket
Thanks
static pond
Wast sauna on the Spanish team for World Cup
plush grail
sauna is finnish
hybrid hollow
Wast sauna on the Spanish team for World Cup
No but galaa and khenail were
I'm a reinforce enjoyer but he's yappin it up too much rn
get to the game 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
static pond
No but galaa and khenail were
Oh I thought a Spanish team had a good tracer
hybrid hollow
Oh I thought a Spanish team had a good tracer
It was Bones who played the tracer I think
Or punk maybe
Only players I remember seeing after owwc are Galaa Khenail and Helv so
I got ssg 3-2 for this
ssg were forcing meta the first time and they clearly weren't comfortable on it and ever since they've been back on the rein comps and eu rush so I think they're gonna be better
Are ssg trolling??? Why is backbone in on Ashe 💀
wise orbit
i kinda want vp to win for the memes
hybrid hollow
i kinda want vp to win for the memes
I mean it's not even memes
VP are a top 3 eu teams hands down
Looking like top 2 in this meta
wise orbit
whatever
hybrid hollow
If anything this match is gonna come down to either ssg trolling or ssg having more experience
wise orbit
also why is hadi on a dive tank again
hybrid hollow
ssg trolling I fear
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Sauna is so disgusting
wise orbit
he might be the second best tracer in eu
hybrid hollow
Is Hadi legally bound to play Winston once a map or something
wise orbit
no identity crisis btw
hybrid hollow
So sparkr was fully available
And backbone was in on hitscan
is christfer off the crusty weed?
What is bro smoking
Ewwwww
Is that pge??
Viet Korean lip in eu???
wise orbit
they need to clutch this with a crazy spawn hold
wow
absolutely dominated on their own map
hybrid hollow
It might be gg
static pond
Why are control and escort blocked
glass sleet
Did you guys see this?
static pond
Did you guys see this?
Lmaooooo
hybrid hollow
It's so joever
hybrid hollow
https://x.com/moonbyungchul89/status/1830293479265808563?s=46
The real brains behind the machine
glass sleet
Infeckted was with his team cuz they all respawn together and then he goes for a walk then comes back to them
wise orbit
3-0 is crazy
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Ksaa back to tm tbh
glass sleet
Ksaa back to tm tbh
I’d love to see him play for TM again but Youbi doesn’t deserve him.
TM need a new fdps
Sauna?
Seicoe
Kevster?
hybrid hollow
But now idk how SSG lost
The meta is against them
dreamy cave
Good to see a shockwave W
glass sleet
The meta is against them
“The meta isn’t rein”*
hybrid hollow
Pretty much
grave python
The meta is against them
wise orbit
ence 3-0 my prediction
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I’d love to see him play for TM again but Youbi doesn’t deserve him.
Bro imo quartz should join ence
Ksa on ssg maybe
wise orbit
ence dont really need a new hitscan rn
bitter marlin
ssg never needed the meta. they just look like they are preparing for hero bans and lost practicve on their main comp and strengths
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I’d love to see him play for TM again but Youbi doesn’t deserve him.
Y true
glass sleet
No I don’t want them to leave TM
wise orbit
well yea
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To just get kicked
wise orbit
doesn't mean it's worth it to try and sign him
glass sleet
Sirmajed needs to go back to TM
wise orbit
they're already maxxed out on imports no?
glass sleet
Yes I just said so
glass sleet
Bliss and Vigilante are Koreans
hybrid hollow
Idk any good flex dps left
Rob ence of kevster
glass sleet
Unfortunately we swap Vigilante for Sirmajed and Youbi for Stalk3r
TM would be the best EU team
hybrid hollow
bro pge is in a stage finals rn am I dreaming
glass sleet
Again
hybrid hollow
I still don't believe it
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Unfortunately we swap Vigilante for Sirmajed and Youbi for Stalk3r
Ig
glass sleet
Sirmajed is the best EU fsupport
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Tho vigilante starting to pop a little
glass sleet
Or was. Idk. He’s been chilling in Korea so for long
hybrid hollow
Majed been in Korea too long he doesn't count
glass sleet
You’d think Sirmajed has only gotten better playing against Koreans
hybrid hollow
The same way Landon can't be na anymore
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You’d think Sirmajed has only gotten better playing against Koreans
Depends on how much he scrims
glass sleet
The same way Landon can't be na anymore
Landon been playing for EU for years majed just sent this year
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Could have gotten worse
hybrid hollow
Does majed even wanna come back
glass sleet
Depends on how much he scrims
He plays a lot. He rolled every team he played against in Dallas
Never lost a map
hybrid hollow
Bros living the life
glass sleet
Fr
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bro getting paid for a year long vacation in Korea
glass sleet
But TM were looking so strong with Sirmajed
I’m only saying he should go back so TM could get a Korean fdps
glass sleet
They lost 3-2 to NRG
glass sleet
Turns out Someone isn’t really THAT good outside of counter swapping
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Bro its so joever
glass sleet
Wait whats nrg team
Scissors, Tr33, PGE, Kellan, Attack, Cal, Rakattack, And Ultraviolet.
That’s the whole roster
I believe
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Scissors, Tr33, PGE, Kellan, Attack, Cal, Rakattack, And Ultraviolet.
Tr33 prob carried
And pge
glass sleet
Tr33 prob carried
Actually no
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Hold
glass sleet
The whole team played well
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Pge and tr33 cant really play same time
glass sleet
Why not
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Both are hitscan
glass sleet
Tr33 is fdps
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I thougth he was hitscan
glass sleet
Tr33 is like Proper. He plays hitscan if needed, but is better on fdps
So PGE and Tr33 are hitscan and fdps
And they also play double flex with Tr33 and Scissors
glass sleet
Yeah I’m sad I missed it live. I watched it today and happy I had no spoilers
glass sleet
No one can touch cr
They were one fight away of losing the series today
3-2 barley winning
glass sleet
Zeta almost beat them
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Wasnt it 3-0
glass sleet
Yes
glass sleet
Yeah
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To MANY MATCHES
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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
glass sleet
Poker face beat falcons today as well
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💀
glass sleet
We almost had 3 insane upsets today
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Lf poker face vs cr
glass sleet
Idk. Zeta were definitely playing way better today.
wise orbit
ence 4-0
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Ence 4-2
wise orbit
so much pressure from kevster
dreamy cave
YES
LETS GO VP
ROB THEM BLIND
Shockwave is better ash. Kai is lost
kevster is so unfair to play against
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Did kev pulse sauna lol
dreamy cave
Yeah
The pulse alone practically swayed the entire fight after getting ense to basically waist 2 ults
hybrid hollow
gah lee
hybrid hollow
It's crazy bc VP is probably the best match up they would've got
Every other team gets destroyed even harder
hybrid hollow
Entire ult economy gone
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The widow diff
hybrid hollow
3:20 on circuit is crazy
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Ew tall ppl
static pond
Also crazy raccoon jerseys are actually so cool
hybrid hollow
https://x.com/moonbyungchul89/status/1830294631831191872?s=46
8'6 demi god
Also
Kai just got shitted on
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Brp
wise orbit
wow what did i miss
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Kai got 0 kills on shockwave
wise orbit
what a weird map for them to lose on
hybrid hollow
wow what did i miss
Kai getting dicked by shockwave
dreamy cave
I'm so tired of kevster carrieing kai
static pond
Kai got 0 kills on shockwave
Lmao fr?
hybrid hollow
I was cooking
wise orbit
yooo chase
hybrid hollow
you guys never praise him when he does well
Bc he needs to get slandered until he learns what consistency is
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I would keep the dva tbh
wise orbit
pge is also incredibly inconsistent
just hating to hate
why swap out eus best dva in a dva meta
hybrid hollow
pge is also incredibly inconsistent
But pge has aura
Hes the dark lord
Pge fed my kids
He saved my dog from a tree
wise orbit
whatever
hybrid hollow
Kai just throws kevsters game
Pge beat merit
Nah but really I don't have a problem with Kai but for the longest ppl called him the best hitscan in eu when he just wasn't
hybrid hollow
Is this chase's first map this stage?
wise orbit
so clean execution
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Idk dva is 2 meta
wise orbit
Get chase off
yea i don't see why you would ever play winston unless you don't have a better dva player
hybrid hollow
It looks like they scrimmed with chase more since ewc
They looked lost with him in at first
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Ok attack
static turret
yea i don't see why you would ever play winston unless you don't have a better d...
I mean Winston is still strong
wise orbit
but does winston ever beat a dva dive in this meta assuming both are played at the same level
static turret
Comes down to team preference and map
wise orbit
right
static turret
They prob felt more comfortable with chase winston on this map
As I say that chase is dead
lol
wise orbit
why rally?
dreamy cave
LETS GO VP
hybrid hollow
but does winston ever beat a dva dive in this meta assuming both are played at t...
Too nuance
Dva and Winston comps play nothing alike tbh
It comes down to which team is more effective and consistent with the comp of their choice
Like are ball comps the best or is it just raccoons being well conditioned on the comp
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Ngl like khnails Kiri a lot
fallen locust
Who’s the best dps to master
wise orbit
tracer
works in almost any match up and has been the most consistently good dps in ow2
paper totem
Tracer is excellent for metal ranks if u learn her
fallen locust
What about when the back line of healers has dps sittin on them too
wise orbit
shes excellent for any rank since she has such an high skill ceiling as well
i think her winrate is higher in high elo
paper totem
What about when the back line of healers has dps sittin on them too
U take attention. Don’t overextend for the kill. Especially in solo queue. Secure kills whne you can but if supports are sitting on the dps play behind them force attention on you
wise orbit
What about when the back line of healers has dps sittin on them too
look at spilos coaching vids
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Vp should have tried the dva mirror imo
paper totem
U can try to kill mercy quickly as well
She can be one clipped
Tracer is nice bc u don’t need to rely on trash supports to win games
She’s very independent
dreamy cave
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The ram only did something last few min
hazy marsh
7️⃣
wise orbit
best of 7
dreamy cave
Do they not play the new game mode?
static pond
Man g2 just beat fnatic in lol
hybrid hollow
When will Kai learn
He's not that guy
either the proves me wrong or ence lose
Wait
Flashes of ksp
wise orbit
winnable for both
hybrid hollow
Ewwww
static pond
That disrespect Ong lol
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Gg
wise orbit
u predicted it man :)
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Ez prediction from me
wise orbit
vp was stronger than i thought
static turret
What match is after this
dreamy cave
Kevster does nothing but carry I swear to god
wise orbit
Vestola is also incredible
static turret
His other dps is kai
dreamy cave
He does more work than propper currently
static turret
He has to carry
wise orbit
also kai did well on the last map
dreamy cave
Yeah only the last map
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Vestola carried so hard
dreamy cave
Good job doing your job for one map
wise orbit
he isnt the best hitscan in eu but man he definitely gets too much hate
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Good job doing your job for one map
The map he choked on vs ssg
dreamy cave
Nah kai dosnt choke. He's just bad.
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Kai is ok on hs but on soj lol
dreamy cave
If that were the case I'd say he was choking majority of the match
wise orbit
i'd like to see how you would do in his place LOL
dreamy cave
i'd like to see how you would do in his place LOL
Being better than kai isn't hard.
wise orbit
so you think you're better? :p
dreamy cave
I could definitely match his output yeah. I mean he flubbed 3 maps and performed on the final. I can manage being good for one map
wise orbit
XD
dreamy cave
With kevster on my team. I'll look great regardless
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Bro got 0 rail kills last map
wise orbit
join an owcs team before u start yapping
dreamy cave
join an owcs team before u start yapping
Just say ur hurt.
wise orbit
kai gets too much hate ill stand by that
static turret
First ever Kai fanboy
dreamy cave
Well I'm about to turn "too much" into "a whole fucking lot"
wise orbit
every stage this happens
static turret
He’s ass
wise orbit
and when he performs, complete silence
static turret
And gets carried
dreamy cave
It's because he's MID, he's a waist for someone who can PLAY HITSCAN BETTER. Bruh he loses hitscan matchups but because kevster is a flanker. He gets the kills that kai SHOULD
He's a fraud dog
wise orbit
finally my swedish goat gets to win a stage
dreamy cave
He's as fraudulent as the taxes your pfp pays
static turret
The real match is gonna begin in like a hr
Tor just needs to 3-0 ntmr
Then we get to see my goat emmit insane aura
dreamy cave
This wait music is actually good
static pond
Interesting thing apparently there a new esports area getting built in Canada
static turret
Why is tor losing
lavish prism
Tor getting third would be the funniest thing ever
spiral light
They just might lose
just killed seeker 😭
want ntmr to win jsut so shock can beat infekted
static turret
I don’t see ntmr winning but if they do it’ll be surprising
If shock beat tor again it’s safe to say they might be the best na team
And that’s crazy to say with a team that has pge😭
spiral light
Fucking hell
static turret
They need to sign a actual main support
Vega is genuinely detrimental on this team
spiral light
lyar to toronto here we go
static turret
Vega isn’t a bad player on the illari and his brig isn’t that bad
But as a main support you need to know Lucio
Why is Toronto losing
static turret
This can’t be the same team that beat zeta
spiral light
This can’t be the same team that beat zeta
it isn’t tht was toronto ultra
static turret
Wby are they back on defiant
The name is cursed
And Vega just almost ajaxed again
spiral light
it’s not even that they lost it’s that they were reverse swept
static turret
I haven’t seen him get a kill
spiral light
I haven’t seen him get a kill
watch this high noon
static turret
This team just got worse in the past week
spiral light
oh
static turret
Merit needs to turn his monitor on
spiral light
he needs to get off cass 😭
static turret
Bro is lost in this meta
spiral light
merit going to have a 3k deadeye
nvm
final fight ntmr ult advantage
they can’t lose
static turret
Yikes
spiral light
wit nano
hybrid hollow
Why is Vega dead 77 to beat
spiral light
WHAT KINDA NANO LMAOO
static turret
Someone mad asf rn
spiral light
why the fuck did he give it to lenny
hybrid hollow
I come back and first thing I see is Vega dead
spiral light
Ahhh toronto are nervous
static turret
Vega ajaxed
static turret
This is the 3rd Ajax on this map in owcs
