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Why is someone dead
GOO LENNY
EZ
Damn
cr so much better
i know it might not mean nothin to yalllll. but understand nothing was done for meeee. so i don’t plan on stopping at alllllll. i want this shit forever mane ever mane ever mane ever
They must win
I thought this was finna be a choke
surel toronto
huh
cant throw this
YESS
RAHHHHH
THEY WON A MAP
LENNT
RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
YES
RECERSE SWEEP INCOMING
THIS MAP WAS A FUCKING MESS LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WE'RE SO BACK
Oh shit
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK
Junbin fk up
HOW DID THEY ALMOST THROW THAT LMAO
At least they ain’t get swept 🙏🙏
NA ISNT DEAAAADDD
damn lenny so happy
LOOK AT THE GOAT SMILE
HE KNOWS HES HIM
no way
PUT IN TRUNG
WE ALR WON IDC IF WE LOSS THE NEXT MAP
Lowkey keep taking the dive mirror
ur welcome for that map
MADE IT TO TOP 2 AND TOOK A MAP OFF CR
please don’t takeeee my sunshineeeee awayyyy
im against toronto
THEY SAID WE WOULDN'T MAKE IT OUT OF TOP 8 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Honeslty toronto>falcons
DOMINANT MAP 4 LETS GOOOO
i wouldnt call nearly choking dominant
oh past midnight now
I WANT THIS SHIT FOREVRR
they blew a 180 lead
see we actually WANTED to blow the lead that way they could get 2 min of high preasure dive mirror and adapt
Duh
Honestly they only lost the map cuz junbin went to far
tbf NA almost lost the map cause someone went too far
And you should have
Tbf honest lenny is just 2 good
Skill issue
Stop blaming junbin he top 2 ball
i’m a mod in a server with 3000 people and i think i just cooked
Pge stream might be cooking
ok now we whip out the iconic NA reaper torb zen illari
Mcgravy with the fucking Riddler fit
I'm kinda scared of the ball tho
they don’t plan on stopping 👀
i know it might not mean nothin to yalllll. but understand nothing was done for meeee. so i don’t plan on stopping at alllllll. i want this shit forever mane ever mane ever mane ever
Praying to the Lenny shrine
https://www.twitch.tv/pge4 you genuinely you need to watch this for a minute im dying
not the interstellar
nvm the funny music is gone you can go to the normal stream
i'm watching the xqc stream
poor taste
bro thinks hes a coach
who is he trying to coach?
Pge makes everything better tho
JUNBIN
Why is my backline dead
doom ult 2024
There's two sides to every escort
Toronto>falcons
We still got this
Pge is dying
got our map
on Duprees life we still win this
U did better than falcons😩
I believe
Zeta should have won but violt became wqshed
that violet ajax
worst ive ever seen
Ye he is as bad as chiyo now
Only good lucio rn is chrong
HE'S DOING SO MUCH
Yo why pge just hit me with an ad
Fire start
i think i summoned the sombra
TAKING IT BACK TO FLORIDA
Lenny needs a pay raise
Friendly reminder somebody said youbi was better than this guy
mystery heroes ahh
ok this map should be over
Is it joever
Is it done
after all this work
all this time
is this were it ends
gg
gg
undefeated champions
good timeline
annnnd they still took a map
good for them
Someones looks so fat
easy game
EU IS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND
LMFAO
WE TOOK A MAP OFF THE BEST TEAM
Not really cr lost one map
barely
Stop u dumbass american
Lip is the goat BUT HE ISNT SUGARFREE
actual terrorism
Ok fine he beat violt now
almost losing that map
was the most patheticm oment i have seen
in all of ow esports
genuinely pathetic team
No match is free when Vega is on ur team
are we reallt surprised
haha why is he holding it like that
when mer1t did 90% of the lifting
it was Lenny tbh
sorry mer1t did 30% of the lifting terrorism did 60%
na still cooked too hard
lenny someone and mer1t and even rupal couldnt even lift vega
Lenny got us to finals simply the truth
why didnt we bring in majed tho
Vega tried his hardest to throw the zeta match
someone mer1t and rupal couldnt lift lenny and vega
my momma’s kinda homeless…..
nah lenny did good
Rupal played like shit
great even
I'll say ir
lenny was insane today
tf u on
He was actually sleep
he swapped to sombra and stood in the backline waiting to hack junbin
Tor got a map
easy game
That’s a win for me
still every map the only consistent player was Lenny
thats how they won a map?
not yet gigachad
and he also just played insane the whole day
Bro is genuinely just in denial
@hybrid hollow https://open.spotify.com/track/5tz69p7tJuGPeMGwNTxYuV?si=c8L2EgfqS9-sd7u5BG-vug&context=spotify%3Asearch i’ll see you in this chat for owcs
hey
Goodbye…..
at least we got a map
shu mvp
Na deadass doesn't make here without Lenny
the losing maps lenny played out of his mind too
that is not a map i would be proud of
Fuck everything……….
dude legit kept up with heesang
having to run sig bastion sombra
i would rather lose 0-4 then get a map playing sig bastion sombra
i mean he kept up with lip and heesang when his backline was alive
I mean they said we wouldn't make it outta top 8 taking a map from cr in the finals in anyway is a W
there’s no cheese characters at this caliber of play that was all skill
50k????
goats
I think u just hate na buddy
Bro is really hating bc they got a map off cr
He rich af
as much as i dislike NA lenny actually was the best played on TOR today
ngl
lenny
nah i just hate the florida core
and also lenny that guy icks me whenever i see him in super or pge vids
90%
I see
Anyways
it's just mer1t
Lenny the goat
you think catgirlz will give lenny a chance after this tourney
mer1t was insane today
Trueeeeeeeee
if bro gets a new personality maybe
did we watch the same matches?
i didnt say he did nothing
Aw yeah man especially on dorado when Lenny dragged them thru that map
Bro just hates sugarfree lmao
he just wasnt keeping up with heesang lip or mer1t
you said he couldnt get carried
💔
Bro is the supreme sugarfree hater
bye now
proper retirement tweet soon
^
Their main support can't even play main support and has "ego challenge lip" disorder
Racoons should just drop every key in the box
Like genuinely nobody even deserves being in their trophy
They just ran thru everyone
just the best team ever assembled
i dont think you could make a team that can take on CR
They only lost 2 maps the entire series right ?
No way they get to keep the other teams
Gold
They put tor in the trophy ?
Lmao
holy goat
yk it's crazy when getting respected by the best team is our peak
2 other best korean teams and the final opponent i think
been saying fielder was a fraud for years
yeah but no team can get higher than that
LOL
Chiyo and viol2t going fraud for fraud
Violet got paid
Someone check his PayPal
lip just proving once again that he is the one and only goat
all of fielder's success post-2021 was not off of his own talent he does not match up to my glorious goat shu
Now this is something I can stand by
Hope everyone ready for the next series and cr wins it again
the fact that people thought fielder was #1 in the world was wild
For the 3rd time
fielder was decent at kiri when she first came out, and then shu picked up kiri
everyone on that roster deserves to be in that spot tho besides chorong and lip the rest of them were cucked at some point in their career
i cant get over serious Unter
i heard that shu just didnt play kiri when she first came out so he didnt have the reps
Like shu should've been on top of the world
put shu ch0r0ng on atlanta
Ngl
heesang max and junbin got crusty screaming in his sleep
This might be the best ewc we gotten
it is
I
Love the gold and the stages
And Stockholm is gonna suck compared to this
And grand finals intro
i unironically think falcons will never be good
bc of proper and chiyo
they will always hold the team back
Still waiting for that proper retirement tweet
they have world class talent
We can hate on ksa but they have the best production and ideas compared to blizzard World Cup
but why have a player with world class talent and a diva mentality
when you can have a player with world class talent and dont cause drama
I can disagree with the country and appreciate them for saving my esport at the same time
Ya
They have medals for each team was such a cool idea
And the giant piller is cool af
The rich get richer lol
Just imagine if Vega and Rupal didn't troll bro
We could've took flashpoint too if they just locked in
Honestly they would have lost still
Let me dream
Crazy raccoon has crazy comebacks
Like heesang bringing back losing fights with pulse bombs
so how long do we have to wait for considering shu being the support goat?
no bro Vega getting stuck them jumping into Rupal pissed me off
Nah he has been
We don't have to wait at all
he is the best flex support of all time
shu has been consistent the past few months
Ya
i think shu has been the best support in the world for 4 year
maybe people still say viol2t so idk
genuinely u can't find a backline better than shu and chorong
you cannot find a better team than CR
If he retired in s4 or 5 maybe
in general
Violet Ist close imo
viol2t is hard to argue against
Nah
shu in my opinion gets closer and closer
viol2t was in every single grand finals since his rookie year besides s4
True
where he was 4th place with a collapsing roster
Without a super team violet hast been that great
^^^^
and honestly viol2t was never the weakest link until now tho
And even then he's not
agree
It's flora
Honestly I think Crazy Raccon is the best team of all time actually
Shu fielder
Any1 got a good video title for my youbi hatetage/lowlights video
they are
i dont think we can say this yet
We can
he never won an owl grand finals
cant think of a better team than cr rn
his teams were amazing but choked in playoffs each year
and when he did make a grands it was 0-4
Easily no other team has had absolutely 0 competition
can anyone look at my post in gameplay advice?🙏🙏🙏
you have to factor in accolades
China no1 😍😍
he just got 50k extra lmfao
He also has a ewc win now
Like shock had Vancouver and Shanghai, Shanghai had Dallas, Dallas had shock, Florida had Houston
Which imo better the grand finals
can anyone look at my post in gameplay advice?🙏🙏🙏
china actually most weird team of all ewc. beating falcons and then losing to toronot
That cause china is still rusty
but he also may be past his prime
If they played in owcs they prob still be very good
bc a lot of owl players decline after their third year at the top
Even tho they went home early I was happy see Guxue not be stuck on Winston completely
but who knows it's kevster
Toronto leveled up bans cucked China, and they're coming off 7 month break rust
if you make the best team possible with non CR players, it doesnt beat CR
Did shu win 100k$?
kev just hasnt had a good team since 2022
you cannot make a team that beats CR
Ayyyy. Glad he was mvp. Been a fan since outlaws
Inshaallah
crazy prize money for mvp honestly
i think if spark didnt have the game banned in their region for a year
still wouldnt come close
the sup diff
too large
imo
Cap
i dont think you can count out shy leave guxue
Ya
I mean the backline was washed tho
mmonk is probably the second best fs in the world 
Shy is still very good
nah lengsa and monk were crazy
That definitely threw a wrench in there
He just stuck in china
they beat falcons despite this
He prob can go to a kr team to play for now
Yeah lengsa was ass on Lucio but he didn't have the time to actually get better tho
i think if spark are rolling
I’d say second best Ana. He doesn’t really play other fs
For a team that had like 2 months to scrim after a year of not playing I think they did fine
Yeah
Mmonk and lengsa , and shu and chorong have 1 thing in common, shitting on chiyo n fielder so I'd say they be even
can anyone watch a replay of one of my games on doomfist, my dps were throwing and I wanna know what I could've done better
Nah I think bans screw them over
2 months is a lot honestly. Ultra leveled up after one week boot camping
give china their own owcs and they will be on the same level as korea
dude ask somewhere else, this isnt the channel for that
ch0r0ng is better than lengsa at brig and is immensely better at any other sup
and shu diffs everyone
Yeah but they were playing consistently before
mmonk can come close to shu on ana but falls flat on other supps
Yes and no zeta trolled and tornto didt play against eu in the playoffs
a year break then only getting two months before the major tourney is not a lot of times plus rush is stupid
Ofc they're gonna be worse
And eu was putting up a good fight tbh
they were still playing the game
in an ana brig mirror spark can take multiple maps off of cr imo
just not scrimming
if not for the break
yeah but bans exist
Not at the level cr was strumming and owcs
this tourney
Before? Last time they played anyone good was in Dallas and they were bad
Prob but I think cr is just better even synergy wise
??
Yeah but they were still playing overwatch at scrimming
Lgd was just playing ladder
i dont think you can say that
the spark roster has been playing together much longer
Spark synergy is insane, they're just rusty lmao
Actually them playing ladder is probably why we seen Guxue look decent on other tanks
rusty spark beat falcons
They have and look what happen
Exactly
and honestly spark got coach gapped
You mean their scrims against eu after Dallas?
idk why rush is coaching this roster
Meh one win
Don’t mean much
when has rush ever found success on dive
Imo
Rush just wanted to be falcons and go home
If they did it again then ya
Who do you want then?
From stage 1 until now they have been consistently scrimming in general
someone who can coach dive
That's a lot of time and experience
Rush can coach?
Tbh
reminder that a fuel roster with sp9rk1e fearless chiyo fielder went 1-6 in msm 2022 which was a dive meta
WE NEED OWCS TO BE 16 TEAMS PLEASE BLIZZARD INSHAALLAH
Anything before Dallas doesn’t count because they were extremely bad. But they leveled up massively after Korea
Who
not rush
Even if they were bad I'm just saying bad scrims is better than no scrims or matches at all
surely you can find a coach who can coach dive
Ya all they played was Winston and couldt answer dragons ball
Comp
True you got a point, person.
which is insane bc dragons were not good that tourney
They’ve only had comp to play
Yup
when has a rush coached roster ever been strong on dive
Is shy ,merit,lip , all on the same level in terms of hitscans( shy is rusty too)
DRAGON BALLS???
Nah lip is a break above
Honestly rush doesn’t do good outside his friend group I mean player group
Like he picks favorites lol
Wasn’t he the coach of Dallas 2022? They won owl right? Wasn’t their tank Hanbin?
As a hitscan?
shy and merit are probably pretty close tho
I'll take merit rn tho just bc he's been playing more
that wasnt dive
I mean he's the best hitscan of all time
that was a reaper hivemind comp
Is lip really that good as a hitscan?
rush is good at coaching that style
Right now tho
I’m saying he didn’t have a dive tank for that…
Literally the greatest to ever do it
im not saying rush cant coach im saying he cant coach dive
Yes still is
I don't think putting lip on lgd beats falcons
Lip is arguably the best hitscan
winston is traditionally a dive tank but that comp was a rush comp
That's bc it isn't a role problem the whole team is washed
Winton rush…cool
that was also a comp played in 2021
But shy hard carried as a hitscan
plus lip on lgd in that falcons match definitely wins
winston dva reaper sombra lucio moira
Lip I didn't see hard carry
Does as much if not more than shy
if it's reaper lucio it isnt a dive comp
Bc lip doesn't need to carry it's different
lip is on a roster where he doesn't need to make these huge plays to win fights and yet he still does
You give lip too much praise. Yeah maybe he’s the best hitscan but he’s not that much better than merit and shy that he can fix a washed team when shy couldn’t
dallas was good at one style in 2022
I'm making a sugarfree lowlights/hatetage ,can u give me a good video title
they just lucked out and got that style for the entire latter half of the year's meta
Is you need a player to hard carry your team that means the team Ist that good
I mean I don't think it's a crazy gap
It's just a noticeable one
like merit and shy can definitely hang
I wouldn’t even say a gap. Shy was crazy on the widow and he’s “washed”
Honestly what set lip apart is his tracer
The gap ain’t big at all
Yep
His tracer is actually really good
when chiyo fielder went to atlanta they were good at dive comps
so i think it's just a rush issue
Fuck no
I think at this point his tracer prob as good as leave and stalkers
His tracer is not
If not it close
plus I also think lip is just more consistent
Fuck no
Lip overall clears don't get me wrong goat or whatever, but as a pure hitscan,pure 9,pure footballer
congrats wac!!!
Do not disrespect the best tracer with your glazing
like shy popped off but he had maps where he was definitely silent
has demontic weighed in yet
K now u lost me
People forget he has game winning plays against falcons last tournament
Unlike hitscan
Killing both supports by himself
Leave is and always be my goat
Before people say this in normal this is fielders and Choyi they played together for so long
Cuz his team is washed. Lip literally has the best fs and the best ms and the best fdps and the best tanks on his team. He can play badly on tracer and they’d still win. Crazy raccoon were obviously the weakest when lip is on tracer no disrespect to lip ofc. He’s a great hitscan but his tracer isn’t as good as proper, stalker, or leave.
Rating lips tracer is hard to be bc he is very good mechanically but he also gets a lot more space to work with bc his team is usually dominating everywhere else
Not a easy backline to player tracer in
Having a pop off when the team already lost a player isn’t anything special on tracer
I've seen lip get shit on 1v1 by leave in ranked, all I need to see
He wast tho
Goat
He got first picks on both
Supports
like lip tracer is gonna look significantly better when shu is landing every nade yk
Have you seen his blinks? He blinks into walls so often AND he reloads AFTER blinks a lot.
His team is so good that his tracer worked. That’s the truth.
Like he's the best hitscan tracer sure but I do think his tracer fundamentally isn't as good as actual flex dps players
He just has god like tracking to cover it
Yup that tracking is what makes it good
his pulses also aren't consistent
If all you have is good tracking on tracer than you’re far worse than the best fdps
Huh?
Sugarfree looked way better on tracer then lip actually having so many consistent pulses as well
The World Cup?
Spark vs reign, then wc ye
Lenny is just that guy
Legit it heesang 1 sugerfree 2
The NA dickriders rising up
Not bias btw
W
Stalker was the best performing tracer for a whole owl season. Sugarfree isn’t better
That team had many issues none was on
Lip
On a real note I do think Lenny is top 5 idk if I'll rate him over stalker tho
I'm taking pge on tracer over sugarfree, fraud
It not like
He had lip and Winston comp
Bro is high off that delusion I respect it
And even shu was saying stalker’s tracer keeps giving him problems when he asked who he thinks is good
Seicoe is a better tracer then sugarfree
Nah
You mean the team they got 6th in msm?
Seicoe might have a better echo tho
Guxue could probably play tracer better then him
that's true
Cuz they had internal problems
Guxue can do it all
Yeah their “internal” problems is refusing to scrim any other comp
No lol
Yes
There problem was gator being a pussy
Any way the sugarfree hatwatch was generational today. The hatetage will be even more generational stay tuned ladies and gentlemen
They genuinely refused to practice anything other than dive
No. watch the interview.
And chiyo bullying donghak too
Gee I wonder why. Maybe because every time they die in scrims they freak out
Still can't remember an instance, the goat "lip" gapped shy in anyway shape or form
And don’t forget
And they also didn’t wanna play with Hawk
Wizard left the team
So they didn’t practice with off tanks meta
Heard this was chiyo and filder problem
can anyone watch a replay of one of my games on doomfist, my dps were throwing and I wanna know what I could've done better(CONSOLE)
The problem was every time gator told them to practice different comps in scrims, they’d get upset when they’re losing and always swap back to dive. Cuz that’s what they were good at. So when the meta changed, they didn’t have any practice on anything else on top of just not wanting to play with Hawk. Whenever he was subbed in, they immediately had the “ggs go next” attitude. Their mentality is so bad.
Yes after wizard left lol
Ofc gator won’t name
Drop
Bro that has nothing to do with wizard. A player shouldn’t be so toxic towards his teammates
He even called cr a shit team
And again internal issues with chiyo
These aren’t internal issues. Internal issue would be “we’re trying to practice but we have no idea what’s meta” the players straight up REFUSE to practice anything else outside of winton dive because they HATE LOSING IN SCRIMMS. It’s weak player mentality which means skill issue not internal issue.
They bullied donghak and hated Hawk like wtf
I thought internal issues just meant issues happening inside the team outside of ppl just being bad
Refusing to scrim is being bad
Like wouldn't shitty mental and toxicity be considered internal
True
Ya
Yeah
can anyone watch a replay of one of my games on doomfist, my dps were throwing and I wanna know what I could've done better(CONSOLE)
This
Poor guy someone should watch his vod
good idea
It is a internal issue that not made public right away
I’m in no position to be judging people’s gameplay
Real
Can't be me
Not it
I'm just the guy that feeds on lucio
I played 30 mins in the past 4 days
I can flex but not to doom lol
can anyone watch a replay of one of my games on doomfist, my dps were throwing and I wanna know what I could've done better(CONSOLE)
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I was thinking if he's in the top 5 richest players from this alone lol
100k + whatever else he's made from his career
Bro might be up there
Him and lip deciding what Rolex to buy
I love that there offering a survey
To improve what wrong
Owl could never
still thinking abt this
Yah
Oh shoot forgot to mention this
🏆 The esports world cup has brought the best Overwatch 2 players to Riyadh to compete for $1,000,000 and the right to call themselves champions!
📅 16 teams fight for the trophy, to lift it they will need to survive the group stage and dominate their competition during the playoffs. Who will it be?
The Esports World Cup is here with a life-chan...
Ewc has a channel that dedicated to matches
Best thing ever
Maybe try also looking at #lf-players-na #lf-players-eu #lf-staff
I watch the match cr vs falcons Hanbin looked so sad dude losing the 4th map and crusty face said it all
I feel so bad
it is lel
kev literally got diffed all day 🤣
just admit Lip is the goat now
cr beating falcons all day 🤣
also even the mvp of twisted is korean 🤣
Tbf Diddy free had a pretty good case for MVP
He should've got MVP over someone in the zeta match
He had Vega on his back + merit when he isn't on hitscan
With the owl shop, can you no longer get the overwatch league special skins? I can only see the team skins but was wondering if they periodically release those special skins ever
yo, does anyone know what crosshair is Mer1t using?
dark small circle hollowed
dumbest shit iveseen all day
is it
yea
hating on a saudi crowd in saudi
mfers are hosting a million dollar tournament on a dead esport which funds the players salaries and somehow she is still complaining ab some dumb shit
open reddit you will see more dumber shit
Yeah, the tweet is worded really badly, but I think she's referring to the sportswashing done by the saudi government, which has also been made apparent in this very chat quite a few times
If they were funding the esport out of the love for the sport, there would not be a problem no matter where the tournament was hosted, but as far as we know, that's just not the case
well who would be spending 60 million dollars on games just for the love of esports. of course its an investment. Saudi is investing in many things so they can step away from oil being a high part of their gdp
but it still pays the salaries of the beloved pro player in that esports
0:00 - Intro to a heavy topic
3:35 - What makes Saudi investments different?
8:15 - What about USA? They're bad too!
11:46 - Saudi's investment into their future
16:06 - Sports tourism
18:18 - How bad is Saudi anyway?
24:48 - How sportswashing works with Saudi Arabia
28:52 - Death penalties for social media posts?!
35:54 - Women's rights in Saud...
Have you watched this video?
If you have, I want to know your thoughts on it
Yes. It does. And the fact that they do is still in my eyes a good thing, but the likely reasoning for it we are presented with shows it in a not-so-good light
It makes a lot of people doubtful
I watched i little clip of it long time ago. i love how he defends usa with the whataboutism argument while still saying that saudi arbai is a more oppresive country then usa while attending american events. And i think the argument for sports washing is pretty stupid in it self. Wouldnt hosting big events in saudi expose the country in the center of attention because of their human rights violation since more people are talking about it.
rather
then silencing
the human rights violations
I think not
did many people in the overwatch community or esports community in general talk about the saudi gouvernments problems before they announced the ewc?
When was ewc announced
october 2023
They started talking about the problems when OWCS was announced I think?
The reason it started when they got involved is because this community didn't have a reason to talk sbout it before. It wasn't relevant seeing as this is an overwatch-focused server
Not because they didn't know about it necessarily, I'd argue
Don't get me wrong, the US is nowhere near great either
yeah but in esports overall. (less people talked abut it because it wasnt noticable when somehting big wasnt happening in saudi.) which is my point since saudi came to the center of attention which exposed their government. And by that means it isnt really sportswashing. I think instead of using the sportswashing word. saudi is just investing in their future so that the country will be stable when oil runs out
if people dont know, people wont say a word about it
saudi tournaments=people hear about stuff
The question is, would you let an esports title/game die because of morals?
I mean both can be true
If that was to be the case, if they did indeed want to invest in their country's future, be it financially or not, wouldn't it be a better idea to invest in their population? To give a larger amount of the population better chances to get educated, to give their citizens better living conditions?
I think their other investments can be for their financial stability in the future but cmon you don't invest in esports to make more money later
a large part of their citizens are living in good conditions. what they need is a new form of revenue which constantly provides them money to further invest in their population. And how do they get constant revenue? by investing in stuff. such as esports which can bring in tourism make people want to further invest. but also invest in other exports.
I think the insane levels of attention they're putting on majed is also bc he's been very unproblematic in his career compared to other Saudi players that were at his level
I think it is also important to be aware of that. Not quite sure if you instantly don‘t have any good morals if you are a pro player or even a viewer of the ewc
the reason for why they needed labour immigrants in the first place which is quite sad is because
so many people
were rich
and no rich person wants
to build buildings
lip > proper
Carpe gotta pick up his son
I’m so proud of our team. Though we lost we showed that we have some of the best players in the world. We literally have no competition in NA and are scrimming against university kids and that week in Korea gave us the juice that we needed. But it is tough to improve as an NA
Meme material
Yk.... He isn't wrong
but I mean the m80 guys are also valid
Besides lyar and coluge they're like half the reason na sucks
Saw this too this straight up comes off as racism
@mizliz_ @ShyamOW Can you do a tier list of ethnicities based on how scared you would to be in a room with them?
Trust me when I say this, anything outside of her journalism is so bad, it's unhealthy
Im say this the reason sa hosted it because to attract tourism
lmfao christfer
It why they hosted it
and she made it even worse lol
Same reason why counties host the Olympics
That's what chrisTFer's response to
the worst part is that i think people would agree with her if it actually was a room filled with white men instead of brown men
I'm just very confused at what she's tryna get it tbh
Maybe I'm too tired from staying up multiple hours to watch overwatch
@awkwardOW I mean I get both points but there were plenty of women on the staff and a lot of women walking around the venue. Along with that there were plenty of women esports teams competing here. I could be wrong
@awkwardOW It felt like Overwatch overall didn’t have as much pull as it used to so seeing that diversity in a field that has mostly men as players and fans a lack of female audience would be expected
Coluge a good take
I unfortunately have to agree with coluge
i think she just meant that she remembered it was saudi funded when she saw the audience but it comes across rly bad
@mizliz_ I was in the crowd at some of the games and there were a good amount of women in the crowd, I think they just showed groups of men who would coordinate chants together since it was really enjoyable watching someone get a kill and 20 different people jump for joy
Pretty sure I also saw women there too lol
In support for team china and crazy raccoon
There was the spark and raccoons had a few women fans
Yup
It makes sense too it's usually more at Asia events
We also didt see the crowd that much
really cringe topic all around, if u wanna talk about how saudi gets their money or whatever do that, who cares about all this diversity stuff
i think she would be happier if saudi forced woman to go so the diversity would match up
Again I can't speak on why no female talent was hired but I don't think it was bc "no women allowed" given the fact they've hired female talent for other events
Ksa crowd has some cool energy
There was staff
yeah and falcons
i think Saudi overwatch fans get a bad rep due to certain people's chat and twitter
i think like there will be women there
Plus aren’t they hosting a women ewc
Ya
was that the point they were going for
I mean like broadcasting talent, soe nekkra kiwi etc but they worked with them before so I assume they just declined or couldn't go
casue the wording is so fucked
matters relating the country aside I think the event was actually pretty nice
the event was good
i agree
it was the people host it that people had a probelm with
i think that was the main consensus
everything was cool i just wish there was a losers bracket also
No real controversy outside the games themselves and a lot of players came out and said it was better than what they respected
like no one can blame the talent for taking the job
Ik viol2t made a tweet about the Saudi fans being super nice in person
Ya
the hero ban thing was great imo
but some of the fans were so toxic
like the shit they say
as out rageous
to lenny
to liup
lip
to a anyone that beat a suadi team or said anything about a suadi player like they are not the best
the shit they say
and it is not all of them
Imagine trashing “university kids” in NA after we hosted your Korean players at our facility for the first 2 weeks of the season while you were working on getting them into Canada
aura
Adam has the most dogshit takes
like ever
I just find it funny that he said university kids like his backline aren't university kids
I felt like he could've said what he said without just disrespecting the other teams yk
a normal take
McGravy being edited in when he was at the event makes it 10x better
Honestly the reason she getting backlash cause she watch like 5mins lmao
It'll be one thing if there was just no women at all at the event but she's complaining about an Epsorts event in Saudi being dominated by Saudi men???
Man I miss so much last night
Who knows man
Granted I don't think m80 has the right to shit talk any players when they literally didn't try at all
Idk maybe it's just bias but when Tor talks it feels like they're trolling but when other players do it it feels like they're genuinely a lil hurt yk
Ya but trashing university kids
Oh nah yeah Adam was tweakin
Is such a dumb thing to do
I'm just talking about the Rupal and lyar interaction
Idk rupal can’t really
Be talking he was pretty much carried
Like trashing university kids when ur backline is two University kids is just hilarious to me
Unfortunately true
adam is not wrong tho, no? i swear every uncoachable episode they talk about how it's rly hard for na to improve because there's not a lot of competition
M80 lyar the goat for putting his diploma over overwatch
Cuz there no money
LG is prob the smartest team tbh
He isn't wrong but he also said it as if it's just na being bad when they also don't have the resources yk
Picking up a collage is very good for the he players
Like if other na teams could afford imports and scrims in another countries the region would be better
but at the same time we do need teams like Toronto so others follow suit
Toronto is throwing money into a dead scene
There not smart tbh
Btw worth mentioning cr had made more then tornto
Lmao
It isn't tbh it's a gamble
It's like they're gambling that owcs actually gets better and the esport improves
not the smartest but if it pays off (very unlikely) then it's worth
So since the last finals which were shown on the overwatch esports channel, the recent ones I'm not able to see the vods or the live matches there, is there any other place I can watch them
I mean since the last finals where crazy raccoons fought vs falcons
🏆 The esports world cup has brought the best Overwatch 2 players to Riyadh to compete for $1,000,000 and the right to call themselves champions!
📅 16 teams fight for the trophy, to lift it they will need to survive the group stage and dominate their competition during the playoffs. Who will it be?
The Esports World Cup is here with a life-chan...
It’s a separate YouTube channel
Oh why suddenly here, is it bcs of the Saudi rules?
And thanks for sharing I was going nuts watching noob hunter vods where streamers are reacting to the matches and I'm wondering where tf are they streaming
Any idea about this or sensitive topic to discuss?
ence is gonna win finals in stockholm
Huh? It just a separate YouTube channel cuz the ewc has to much going on with it
It not a owcs tournament
Oh
It’s esports world
Cup
Meaning there be more then one type of game being played not just ow
Ah got it
The next matches would be held on the main channel again right
Or separate channel
Ya should be
Cool cool
They aren’t even top 4 material or best eu team

i believe in them 😁
Yeah I keep hearing players, coaches, cast, and talent all had a great time. Glad to hear it.
here’s a lil thing, credit of the guy who made it in the top left
youbi also blocked him after this lol
Zeta would got 0-4 tbh
There is an argument for crazy raccoons literally being the best overwatch team of all time
13/0 and losing two maps in total is bonkers
Ya
I meant crazy raccoon wouldt drop a map to zeta
exactly
People keep talking about them but they looked so slow and even
When they started waking up they were struggling
If once again had played in owcs they could have made it
When we get money lol
We don’t need players picking up gambling
?
Lowkey
It would be fire tho
Viol2t would definitely be at the slot machines after the match
100 percent
Bro has even talked about what he did on Twitter
I think only Finn posted a apologize to fearless
That's making me think fearless might retire again
Ah true
Think they only got him for World Cup
Him and Finn had me shaking in my boots after Dorado
that nade almost killed my hope and dreams
He was doing military a different way which allowed him to play but had to be military in a different country
Violet should be apologizing tbh
It a common thing you don’t beat from
High places lol
Even that high
Ftg might have to sign a player just for Lucio ngl 😭
And Toronto
Vega and Viol2t on brig and flex support: 👍🏾
Vega and Viol2t on Lucio:
Tbh I feel more bad for fnatic
Donghak shows he plays more then the Winston jist for checkmate to get echo diff
Yeah idk why viper wasn't in most of the time
